Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post provides information about the Gospel song "On Time God" and showcases a YouTube video sound file of of Dottie Peoples and other members of the assembled Gospel legends singing Dottie Peoples' award winning song "On Time God". "The Gospel legends" are noted African American Gospel singers/musicians.
The lyrics for "On Time God" are also included in this post along with selected comments from two YouTube viewer discussion threads about this song.
The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Dottie Peoples for her musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these featured examples on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE TERM "ON TIME"
The Gospel song "On Time God" is based on the African American folk saying "God may not come when you want Him [to], but He's never late."
"On Time" means [someone doing something or something occurring] not too early or too late, but exactly at the right time.
An American folk saying that reinforces the view that people shouldn't worry about when something will happen is "Patience is a virtue".
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE GOSPEL SONG "ON TIME GOD"
According to her Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dottie_Peoples "On Time God" was composed by Dottie Peoples (born August 12, 1950 in Dayton, Ohio).
Here's another excerpt from that Wikipedia page:
"Peoples's 1995 album, On Time God, would change her role in gospel music. At the Stellar Awards, she won Female Vocalist of the Year for traditional music, Choir of the Year for traditional music, Album of the Year, and Song of the Year for "On Time God". That same year, Peoples would receive a Vision Award by Bobby Jones Gospel of Black Entertainment Television and Gospel Today Magazine. ``On Time God would also win the Atlanta Gospel Choice Award for Song of the Year."
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LYRICS- ON TTME GOD
(Dottie Peoples)
Chorus:
Lead: He's an on time God, Yes he is Oh.........
Choir: On time God...... Yes he is
Lead: Job said
Choir: He may not come when you want him
Lead: But He'll
Choir: Be there right on time
Lead: I'll tell ya he's an
Choir: On time God, yes he is
Lead: You can ask the children of Israel, trapped at the red sea, by that mean old Pharoah, and his army. They had water all around them, and Pharoah on their track. From out of nowhere, God stepped in and cut a highway, just like that, now let me tell you he's an...
(Chorus)
Lead: You can ask the five thousand, hungry souls he fed, on the banks of the river, with two fish and five loaves of bread, what a miracle, he performed for the multitude, Oh what he did, way back then he'll do today for me and you.
Repeat Chorus
Lead: He's on time
Choir: On Time
Repeat as directed
Source: https://www.lyriczz.com/lyrics/dottie-peoples/38845-he's-an-on-time-god/
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I don't know who composed the Gospel song "On Time God" and when it was composed. If you know this information, please share it in this post's comment section below or in the YouTube video discussion thread. Thanks!
SHOWCASE VIDEO: On Time God - Gospel Legends Volume 2 soloist Dottie Peoples
Pannellctp Traditional Gospel Music, Uploaded on Apr 26, 2011
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Here are some comments from this video's discussion thread. Comments are given in chronological order based on their publishing date, with the oldest comments given first, except for replies. Numbers are assigned for referencing purposes only.
1. audreT45, 2012
"THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING THESE VIDEOS. I LOVE THE OLD GOSPEL"
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2. Michelle D, 2012
"I AGREE I LOVE THE OLD SONGS IT REMINDS ME OF TGHE SMALL CHURCHS THAT I ATTENDED IN MISSISSIPPI"
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3. HunnyLuv82, 2012, 2012
"Charles Fold was in the back like "Really, y'all gonna do the slow clap... I guess." LOL.... We miss You Charles!!!"
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4. Genabeadirect, 2012
"is it me or does this seem extremely slow???? And the clap on the opposite beat than we're accustomed to... yeah.. I know.... but it was very distracting to me..."
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5. Darius Witherspoon, 2013
"To be honest, it's not slow at all - The accents are on the opposite beats. If you listen to the original, the tempo hasn''t changed - just the rhythm style. That's Dottie...A good drummer can switch up the style without losing the tempo...I played this song with my choir on an outing, and a guest drummer kicked it off like that. The director gave me funny looks, but it wasn't technically wrong, just different - like Shirley Caesar's "I Feel Like Praising, Praising, Him" - strikingly similar"
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6. Vernard Mays, 2013
"This is one of my fav songs....God knows I sing the mess out of this at church!!!!!!"
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"sing the mess out of [a song] = sing it a lot (implying that the singer really likes this song)
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7. Tina Hubbard, 2015
"Mother Dottie stay sharp!!!! Sing it!"
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"Mother" is a title of respect for women-particularly older women- in the Church Of God In Christ churches and some other Black American churches.
In this comment the word "sharp" is a highly complimentary description of a person's fashion style (clothing, hair, shoes etc.).
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8. TheValvacious, 2015
"GURRRL you know you can sang. Every time you come to visit at my church, I am always seating in the front. LUV YOU DOTTIE!!!
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"Gurrrl" = "girl". That word is spelled that way on purpose to evoke the flavor (spirit) of the "downhome" (Black Southern) way that "girl" was/is pronounced.
In contrast "luv" (love) is a contemporary (perhaps) African American originated spelling of the word "love".
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9. Melody Sanger, 2016
"HE'S never late!!!!"
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9. shoeladyt, 2016
You can not rush God and you show nuff can't slow Him down, He just on time.
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10. nyekurity, 2016
"Who is the second soloist?"
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11. Del Knight, 2017
"Paul Jones is the second artist."
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12. Sabrina Freeman, 2016
"He is a on time God yes he there when my money is funnie and my change is strange and my friends are few I depend on Jesus"
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"My money is funnie [funny], my change is strange, and my friends are few" sounds like an African American folk saying, but I don't recall ever saying it, hearing it, or seeing it in print before.
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13. Angela Singleton, 2016
"GOD IS ALWAYS RIGHT ON TIME!"
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14. Marie Iacullo, 2016
"He's always on time."
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15. Jose CoronA, 2017
"I lOVE THIS!!! I FEEL THE FIRE!!"
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"Fire" here is a referent for the presence of the Holy Ghost (Holy Spirit).
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16. Quida Clay, 2017
"Take me back to the day when you song along with the choir you could feel the holy Spirit in the church."
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Here are a few selected comment another YouTube example of Dottie Peoples singing "On Time God" [sound file] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kmzuekCLqZM Dottie Peoples entitled, "He's an on time God.
icelady107,Published on Oct 6, 2012
This is track 3 from the 1994 CD entitled "He's an On Time God".
1. Rodney Wise, 2016
"He's never too early. He's never too late. HE'S ALWAYS ON TIME. GOD DOES EVERYTHING IN THE FULLNESS OF TIME."
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2. Sandra Watson, 2016
"GOD IS ALWAYS ON TIME,HE MAY NOT COME WHEN YOU WANT HIM BUT HE'S BE THERE RIGHT ON TIME"
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3. Johnie Porterfield, 2016
"AMEN!!!! B THERE RIGHT ON TIME....."
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Sunday, February 21, 2016
Dinah Washington - "What A Difference A Day Makes" (information, lyrics, sound file, and comments)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a three part series on the last name (surname) "Washington" in the United States.
Part II presents information about the African American vocalist Dinah Washington and showcases her singing "What A Difference A Day Makes". Information and comments about that song and about Dinah Washington and song lyrics are also included in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/02/washington-blackest-last-name-in-united.html for Part I of this post. Part I presents excerpts from several online articles about the last name "Washington". Part I also includes excerpts from a 2002 research project that I commissioned on surnames in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Part I presents excerpts from several online articles about the last name "Washington". Part I also includes excerpts from a 2002 research project that I commissioned on surnames in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/02/grover-washington-jr-inner-city-blues.html for Part III. Part III presents information about the African American musician Grover Washington, Jr and showcases an example of his rendition of "Inner City Blues". A post on the tune "Soulful Strut" that features a version by Grover Washington will be published ASAP.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Dinah Washington for her musical legacy. Thanks also to Mexican songwriter María Grever for composing "What A Difference A Day Made" and Stanley Adams for writing English lyrics for this song. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of this sound file on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT DINAH WASHINGTON
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinah_Washington
"Dinah Washington (born Ruth Lee Jones; August 29, 1924 – December 14, 1963), was an American singer and pianist, who has been cited as "the most popular black female recording artist of the '50s".[1] Primarily a jazz vocalist, she performed and recorded in a wide variety of styles including blues, R&B, and traditional pop music,[1] and gave herself the title of "Queen of the Blues".[2] She was a 1986 inductee of the Alabama Jazz Hall of Fame,[3] and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1993...
After winning a talent contest at the age of 15, she began performing in clubs. By 1941–42 she was performing in such Chicago clubs as Dave's Rhumboogie and the Downbeat Room of the Sherman Hotel (with Fats Waller). She was playing at the Three Deuces, a jazz club, when a friend took her to hear Billie Holiday at the Garrick Stage Bar. Club owner Joe Sherman was so impressed with her singing of "I Understand", backed by the Cats and the Fiddle, who were appearing in the Garrick's upstairs room, that he hired her. During her year at the Garrick – she sang upstairs while Holiday performed in the downstairs room – she acquired the name by which she became known. She credited Joe Sherman with suggesting the change from Ruth Jones....
In 1959, she had her first top ten pop hit, with a version of "What a Diff'rence a Day Made",[8] which made Number 4 on the US pop chart. Her band at that time included arranger Belford Hendricks, with Kenny Burrell (guitar), Joe Zawinul (piano), and Panama Francis (drums). She followed it up with a version of Irving Gordon's "Unforgettable", and then two highly successful duets in 1960 with Brook Benton, "Baby (You've Got What It Takes)" (No. 5 Pop, No. 1 R&B) and "A Rockin' Good Way (To Mess Around and Fall in Love)" (No. 7 Pop, No. 1 R&B). Her last big hit was "September in the Rain" in 1961 (No. 23 Pop, No. 5 R&B).[7]"...
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INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SONG
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_a_Diff%27rence_a_Day_Made
"What a Diff'rence a Day Made" is a popular song originally written in Spanish by María Grever, a Mexican songwriter, in 1934. Originally, the song was known as “Cuando vuelva a tu lado” ("When I Return to Your Side"). The song is also known in English as “What a Diff'rence a Day Makes”, as popularized by Dinah Washington.[2]....
Song information
The English lyrics were written by Stanley Adams, and was played by Harry Roy & his Orchestra. It was published in late 1934. The most successful early recording, in 1934, was by the Dorsey Brothers, although it was first recorded in English by Cleveland crooner Jimmie Ague.[1]
Dinah Washington won a Grammy Award in 1959 for Best Rhythm and Blues Performance with this song. Her version was also inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998.[3] It also earned her first top ten Pop hit, reaching #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.[4]
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This Wikipedia page gives the song genre as "Pop". However, Dinah Washington's "What A Difference A Day Makes" has also been categorized as "Blues", "Rhythm & Blues", and "Jazz".
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LYRICS:
(composed by María Grever; English lyrics by Stanley Adams)
[as sung by Dinah Washington]
What a diff'rence a day made
Twenty-four little hours
Brought the sun and the flowers
Where there used to be rain
My yesterday was blue, dear
Today I'm part of you, dear
My lonely nights are through, dear
(Since you said you were mine)
What a diff'rence a day makes
There's a rainbow before me
Skies above can't be stormy
Since that moment of bliss
That thrilling kiss
(It's heaven when you find romance on your menu)
What a diff'rence a day made
And the difference is you
(What a diff'rence a day makes)
(There's a rainbow before me)
(Skies above can't be stormy)
Since that moment of bliss, that thrilling kiss
(It's heaven when you find romance on your menu)
What a diff'rence a day made
And the difference is you
Source: http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/dinah_washington/what_a_diffrence_a_day_makes.html
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SHOWCASE EXAMPLE : Dinah Washington: What Difference A Day Makes
phalenopsis1Published on Jul 2, 2009
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A commenter wrote that this was recorded in 1959.
Selected comments from this sound file's discussion thread:
These comments are given in chronological order based on their publishing date, except for replies, with the oldest comment given first. These comments may not be in consecutive order. I've assigned numbers for referencing purposes only.
[Note: Unfortunately a glitch in YouTube or in my computer only won't allow me to read comments after number of page loadings.]
2013
1. 2011Ohmygoodness
"Wow. When I was a little girl, I grew up listening to music like this. My Dad used to play this all of the time, may he rest in peace. Dad, thanks for playing such wonderful music around me and I miss you so much."
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2. Rick Newsome
"This song is part of my young DNA. Miss Washington's voice mixed with the oxygen of our Queens apartment along with the Q5A bus fumes and cigarette smoke; I breathed it all in which fueled my mind with jazz, blues and life."
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2014
3. firstbornbirdman
"She was born to sing this song! She owns it completely. Definitely one of my favorites of classic jazz."
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2015
4. tippimail1
"The best-all bow down to her."
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5. Elaine Dennis
"Feel lucky that my parents had such good taste in music and was brought up listening to music like this."
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6. Gabriel Sandoval
"Originally a bolero, one of the most beautiful expressions of music. Titled, Cuando Vuelva a Tu Lado. Written by the female Mexican song writer Maria Grever. Check out the original, I think you'll enjoy."
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7. FazeSouthLDN
"Wow! Big up YouTube for giving access to dinah's angelic voice ;-). "
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8. Bjr Adrian
"Lord, she was Dinah. She left us too soon."
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Reply
9. Tamara Vukcevic Jankovic
"Music for all times!!!!"
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Reply
10. Jonathan K. [2016]
"She wasn't even 40... She had a hard life though.
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mark Prescott [2016]
11. "+Jonathan K. sorry to hear she had a hard life. She deserved the best. RIP my darlins."
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12. Wayne Brasler
"The song was titled "What A Difference A Day Made." It was at the recording session it became "What A Difference A Day Makes." It proved a smash and gave Dinah an entire new career at a point she might be expected to have done her greatest work. She as a genius talent; listen to that phrasing, listen to that in-the-moment expression, listen to that pitch perfect vocalizing, listen to that great sense of timing, listen to that voice! She was a singer other singers admired."
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13. John Palazzini
"Dinah was the very best......and this song is an everlasting classic ! ! !"
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14. oceantracks
"We moved to FL in the early Sixties when I was 11. The house we moved in was airy and Mom often kept the windows open, and all through those long Summer days she played this album on our living room stereo. Dinah's voice filled our home, and now these songs bring back the memories so clearly of that time. She loved Dinah, and now that I'm an adult, I can see why."
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15. Jasmine Baloyan
""first take" artist “She had a voice that was like the pipes of life. She could take any melody in her hand, hold it like an egg, crack it open, fry it, let it sizzle, reconstruct it, put the egg back in the box and back in the refrigerator, and you would’ve still understood every single syllable of every single word she sang. Every single melody she sang she made hers. Once she put her soulful trademark on a song, she owned it and it was never the same.”
~ Quincy Jones ~"
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16. routeman680
"I could not remember who sang this song, and I found Brenda Lee and now Dinah Washington. Dinah's voice is perfect, excellent diction, phrasing and pitch. This is the classic version by a top class performer."
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2016
17. rick smiff
"She told Kenny"just brush the drums,man"...and THAT made a difference"
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18. mkl62
"This hit from Dinah Washington, aka The Queen of Blues, went to #4 on the Top 40 charts. It went to #1 on the Rhythm & Blues charts. It would finish at #45 for the year, 1959."
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Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This is Part II of a three part series on the last name (surname) "Washington" in the United States.
Part II presents information about the African American vocalist Dinah Washington and showcases her singing "What A Difference A Day Makes". Information and comments about that song and about Dinah Washington and song lyrics are also included in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/02/washington-blackest-last-name-in-united.html for Part I of this post. Part I presents excerpts from several online articles about the last name "Washington". Part I also includes excerpts from a 2002 research project that I commissioned on surnames in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania. Part I presents excerpts from several online articles about the last name "Washington". Part I also includes excerpts from a 2002 research project that I commissioned on surnames in Allegheny County, Pennsylvania.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/02/grover-washington-jr-inner-city-blues.html for Part III. Part III presents information about the African American musician Grover Washington, Jr and showcases an example of his rendition of "Inner City Blues". A post on the tune "Soulful Strut" that features a version by Grover Washington will be published ASAP.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Dinah Washington for her musical legacy. Thanks also to Mexican songwriter María Grever for composing "What A Difference A Day Made" and Stanley Adams for writing English lyrics for this song. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of this sound file on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT DINAH WASHINGTON
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dinah_Washington
"Dinah Washington (born Ruth Lee Jones; August 29, 1924 – December 14, 1963), was an American singer and pianist, who has been cited as "the most popular black female recording artist of the '50s".[1] Primarily a jazz vocalist, she performed and recorded in a wide variety of styles including blues, R&B, and traditional pop music,[1] and gave herself the title of "Queen of the Blues".[2] She was a 1986 inductee of the Alabama Jazz Hall of Fame,[3] and was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame in 1993...
After winning a talent contest at the age of 15, she began performing in clubs. By 1941–42 she was performing in such Chicago clubs as Dave's Rhumboogie and the Downbeat Room of the Sherman Hotel (with Fats Waller). She was playing at the Three Deuces, a jazz club, when a friend took her to hear Billie Holiday at the Garrick Stage Bar. Club owner Joe Sherman was so impressed with her singing of "I Understand", backed by the Cats and the Fiddle, who were appearing in the Garrick's upstairs room, that he hired her. During her year at the Garrick – she sang upstairs while Holiday performed in the downstairs room – she acquired the name by which she became known. She credited Joe Sherman with suggesting the change from Ruth Jones....
In 1959, she had her first top ten pop hit, with a version of "What a Diff'rence a Day Made",[8] which made Number 4 on the US pop chart. Her band at that time included arranger Belford Hendricks, with Kenny Burrell (guitar), Joe Zawinul (piano), and Panama Francis (drums). She followed it up with a version of Irving Gordon's "Unforgettable", and then two highly successful duets in 1960 with Brook Benton, "Baby (You've Got What It Takes)" (No. 5 Pop, No. 1 R&B) and "A Rockin' Good Way (To Mess Around and Fall in Love)" (No. 7 Pop, No. 1 R&B). Her last big hit was "September in the Rain" in 1961 (No. 23 Pop, No. 5 R&B).[7]"...
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INFORMATION ABOUT THIS SONG
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_a_Diff%27rence_a_Day_Made
"What a Diff'rence a Day Made" is a popular song originally written in Spanish by María Grever, a Mexican songwriter, in 1934. Originally, the song was known as “Cuando vuelva a tu lado” ("When I Return to Your Side"). The song is also known in English as “What a Diff'rence a Day Makes”, as popularized by Dinah Washington.[2]....
Song information
The English lyrics were written by Stanley Adams, and was played by Harry Roy & his Orchestra. It was published in late 1934. The most successful early recording, in 1934, was by the Dorsey Brothers, although it was first recorded in English by Cleveland crooner Jimmie Ague.[1]
Dinah Washington won a Grammy Award in 1959 for Best Rhythm and Blues Performance with this song. Her version was also inducted into the Grammy Hall of Fame in 1998.[3] It also earned her first top ten Pop hit, reaching #8 on the Billboard Hot 100.[4]
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This Wikipedia page gives the song genre as "Pop". However, Dinah Washington's "What A Difference A Day Makes" has also been categorized as "Blues", "Rhythm & Blues", and "Jazz".
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LYRICS:
(composed by María Grever; English lyrics by Stanley Adams)
[as sung by Dinah Washington]
What a diff'rence a day made
Twenty-four little hours
Brought the sun and the flowers
Where there used to be rain
My yesterday was blue, dear
Today I'm part of you, dear
My lonely nights are through, dear
(Since you said you were mine)
What a diff'rence a day makes
There's a rainbow before me
Skies above can't be stormy
Since that moment of bliss
That thrilling kiss
(It's heaven when you find romance on your menu)
What a diff'rence a day made
And the difference is you
(What a diff'rence a day makes)
(There's a rainbow before me)
(Skies above can't be stormy)
Since that moment of bliss, that thrilling kiss
(It's heaven when you find romance on your menu)
What a diff'rence a day made
And the difference is you
Source: http://www.oldielyrics.com/lyrics/dinah_washington/what_a_diffrence_a_day_makes.html
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SHOWCASE EXAMPLE : Dinah Washington: What Difference A Day Makes
phalenopsis1Published on Jul 2, 2009
-snip-
A commenter wrote that this was recorded in 1959.
Selected comments from this sound file's discussion thread:
These comments are given in chronological order based on their publishing date, except for replies, with the oldest comment given first. These comments may not be in consecutive order. I've assigned numbers for referencing purposes only.
[Note: Unfortunately a glitch in YouTube or in my computer only won't allow me to read comments after number of page loadings.]
2013
1. 2011Ohmygoodness
"Wow. When I was a little girl, I grew up listening to music like this. My Dad used to play this all of the time, may he rest in peace. Dad, thanks for playing such wonderful music around me and I miss you so much."
**
2. Rick Newsome
"This song is part of my young DNA. Miss Washington's voice mixed with the oxygen of our Queens apartment along with the Q5A bus fumes and cigarette smoke; I breathed it all in which fueled my mind with jazz, blues and life."
****
2014
3. firstbornbirdman
"She was born to sing this song! She owns it completely. Definitely one of my favorites of classic jazz."
****
2015
4. tippimail1
"The best-all bow down to her."
**
5. Elaine Dennis
"Feel lucky that my parents had such good taste in music and was brought up listening to music like this."
**
6. Gabriel Sandoval
"Originally a bolero, one of the most beautiful expressions of music. Titled, Cuando Vuelva a Tu Lado. Written by the female Mexican song writer Maria Grever. Check out the original, I think you'll enjoy."
**
7. FazeSouthLDN
"Wow! Big up YouTube for giving access to dinah's angelic voice ;-). "
**
8. Bjr Adrian
"Lord, she was Dinah. She left us too soon."
**
Reply
9. Tamara Vukcevic Jankovic
"Music for all times!!!!"
**
Reply
10. Jonathan K. [2016]
"She wasn't even 40... She had a hard life though.
**
mark Prescott [2016]
11. "+Jonathan K. sorry to hear she had a hard life. She deserved the best. RIP my darlins."
**
12. Wayne Brasler
"The song was titled "What A Difference A Day Made." It was at the recording session it became "What A Difference A Day Makes." It proved a smash and gave Dinah an entire new career at a point she might be expected to have done her greatest work. She as a genius talent; listen to that phrasing, listen to that in-the-moment expression, listen to that pitch perfect vocalizing, listen to that great sense of timing, listen to that voice! She was a singer other singers admired."
**
13. John Palazzini
"Dinah was the very best......and this song is an everlasting classic ! ! !"
**
14. oceantracks
"We moved to FL in the early Sixties when I was 11. The house we moved in was airy and Mom often kept the windows open, and all through those long Summer days she played this album on our living room stereo. Dinah's voice filled our home, and now these songs bring back the memories so clearly of that time. She loved Dinah, and now that I'm an adult, I can see why."
**
15. Jasmine Baloyan
""first take" artist “She had a voice that was like the pipes of life. She could take any melody in her hand, hold it like an egg, crack it open, fry it, let it sizzle, reconstruct it, put the egg back in the box and back in the refrigerator, and you would’ve still understood every single syllable of every single word she sang. Every single melody she sang she made hers. Once she put her soulful trademark on a song, she owned it and it was never the same.”
~ Quincy Jones ~"
**
16. routeman680
"I could not remember who sang this song, and I found Brenda Lee and now Dinah Washington. Dinah's voice is perfect, excellent diction, phrasing and pitch. This is the classic version by a top class performer."
****
2016
17. rick smiff
"She told Kenny"just brush the drums,man"...and THAT made a difference"
**
18. mkl62
"This hit from Dinah Washington, aka The Queen of Blues, went to #4 on the Top 40 charts. It went to #1 on the Rhythm & Blues charts. It would finish at #45 for the year, 1959."
****
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Visitor comments are welcome.
Sunday, November 29, 2015
Comments About The Way Women Dance In A Nigerian Gospel Video
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post provides selected comments about the way that women dance in the Nigerian Gospel video "Jehovah Na God - Double Double". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/11/evangelist-chimere-nwenu-jehovah-na-god.html for a pancocojams post about that video can be found at of that video.
The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, sociological, and aesthetic purposes.
Thanks to all the dancers who are featured in this video and thanks all those who commented in this video's discussion thread. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/11/two-versions-of-african-gospel-song.html for a post that features the original Nigerian version of "Double Double" and a Ghanaian version of that Gospel song.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Jehovah Na God- Double Double
Sam Johnson, Uploaded on Jun 6, 2011
Jehovah Na God, When Jesus Say Yes, Lift Him Up & My Lord Is Good
(Double Double)
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The songs end around 23:09 in the video. An interview with the lead singer Evangelist Chimere Nwenu begins after that. At the end of that interview at 28:52 there are short video clips of other Nigerian singers and dancers. It's likely that these video clips are also of Gospel music, but I'm not sure about that.
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE WAY WOMEN DANCE IN THIS VIDEO
I've included general comments about dancing in African Gospel videos. However, there is no mention in this discussion thread's comments about how the men dance.
These comments are given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments presented first, except for responses. However, these comments may not be in consecutive order. I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes.
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foxyxzw1etw
2011
1. sossou11
"This is a good gospel song but the dancers, especially the girls made it seems like a typical secular song! I know it is a marketing strategy to have females in every music video but if you are going to make a gospel music video it would be appropriate to deviate from the secular style, less shaking butt and focus on the gospel itself"
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2. Gbemisola Adeleke
in reply to sossou11
"@sossou11 i see what u are saying, we dont want want people to be caught up with the wrong message, however, it is there God that gave them there butts, let dem shake it for God if they want too."
**
2012
3. Alena D
"I enjoy African music so much. I was in an African church for about 2.5yrs and the music is so anointed. I like most of this dancing too. But 12:15, is not spiritual. Women must not move their bodies in carnal ways. Perhaps it's the culture but when it comes to God, we must be holy. God bless you all! Rev Alena/USA."
**
4. promise266uk
in reply to Alena D
"Thanks AlenaJolie, the only problem with this video is the vulgar dancing moves. It is not a culture thing, one with the spirit of God in him/her will not dance in such manner to a song praising and exalting the Lord. The truth is that most of these guys behind these products are interested more in the commercial output and not the spiritual output. Anybody with the spirit of God in him/her and living for the Lord will not support such dancing to the Name of Jesus."
**
5. Alexis Rouzard
"The dancing is completely NORMAL for Africans, that is our culture & our way of expressing our joy, when? we are happy & joyous we dance shout & sing.!"
**
6. Nkemakolam Chinwah
"When Jesus says YES, NOBODY CAN TELL HIM NO!!!! DANCE FOR JESUS!"
**
7. Matthew curry
"We must be careful not to attach our western European/ American mindsets regarding worship to this music. None of us know the hearts of those who dance, I don't find the dancing sexually suggestive at all. Though as an american, I'm tempted to do so because of the secular music here in this country. However; "This is not America". and I'm really glad that it is not."
**
8. promise266uk
in reply to Matthew curry
"Thanks 4 your comment. This piece of praise & worship song is a master piece. Western or not, any Christian that understands the text in this song will draw blessings from it. Despite my position about the dancing in the video, I listen to the song almost everyday, it is a massive blessing to me, and reminds me of God's goodness to me. "For the Righteous God knows the hearts and minds of man" (Psalms 7:9b). The Lord knows our inner minds, He knows who is righteous, in our doings & thinkings."
**
9. obijesus
"What a wonderfully exuberant and uplifting gospel Ibo Makossa music. This artist is a skillful blend of talent and spiritual anointing. He is an evangelist who is so powerfully in love with Jesus, and wants to share the news with the listener. It all shows in the deliverance of the music, the cadence of his voice, and the masterful instrumentation that melds with the message and the music."
**
10. obijesus
"would also like to comment on the negative comments about the dancing. At first glance, one might think that it is sexually suggestive like some posters are saying, however, you need to look deeper. These dancers are exuberant with their praise, and their body movement is an expression of that joyous abandon. Their dancing is more cultural than sexy. We do not attach sex to such dancing in our Africa. When dancers want to seduce, you will see it in both their moves and their dressing."
**
11. heavychic100
"Please regarding the comments about the dancers dancing seductively,i want to say that in the presence of God there is fullness of joy.Praising God is so overwhelming that you cant control your bodily movements.David danced unto the lord and even removed all his clothes in his joy,went stack naked all in the name of praising and God appreciated it to d extent that when his wife scolded him God punished her with barrenness all her life( 2 Sam 6;23).So let us not Judge because God knows the heart."
**
2013
12. Jeremiah Mbong
"Well, that is how we dance in Church, you can interprete it however you want. All we have to give to God is Praise and praise is what they are doing! Do you know Jehovah is God? I sure do, than you so much for this music, it makes my day in this place called America!"
**
13. Kuh Milo
"Booty shaking Makosa dance is Baal worship. Get it! Friendship with the world is enemity with God. WOULD YOU DO THIS VOLGA MAKOSA DANCE BEFORE YOUR OWN FATHER? HOW MUCH MORE THE ALMIGHTY GOD. WOULD YOU?"
**
14. musictemple1
in reply to Kuh Milo
"You haven't answered my question bro/sis, let me repeat again in case if you didn't understand what i meant before, i said is there any portion of the BIBLE where is was written the type of dance we must offer to the LORD ? booty shaking ? so one will stand a like electric pole when dancing ? dear you better free your self and worship HIM with all your heart, those kids dancing are appreciating the LORD..."
**
15. AURE SAVIOUR
"THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THE DANCERS BUT WE PEOPLE HAVE A WRONG MIND SET IN WATCHING THEM DANCE FOR GOD."
**
16. ladyarlene1
in reply to AURE SAVIOUR
"King David danced before the Lord and it pleased God. i think this is beautiful and uplifting to my heart. we all worship in our own way... no one should ever put down another's way."
**
17. Lordskeep
in reply to AURE SAVIOUR
"What's wrong with girls dancing? it's for Jehovah our God..Let them Dance for him : )"
**
18. Charles Nyeko, W.M.
"Nothing wrong with the dancing styles or dressings of the dancers or anybody in this video. When praising God please don't expect us to stand still like Chinese soldiers on parade! We praise our Lord with all the excitements and jump and kick.
Praise be to God. Thank you Brother for this wonderful songs and greetings to all the dancers and other people who helped in developing this video."
**
19. Richmoore William Barry
"THOSE WHO SAY THAT THE DANCE IS BAAL DANCE ARE OFFENDING THE ALMIGHTY GOD FOR SAYING SO......... AND LET ME ASK THOSE DOMED PEOPLE, WHICH PART OF THE BODY SHOULD MAN AND WOMEN SHAKE WHEN PRAISING GOD, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW,,,,,,,"
**
20. Pualine Kerkulah
"as for me i'm not looking at their dancing but the word in this beautiful song..."
**
21. Jeremiah Mbong
"Well, that is how we dance in Church, you can interprete it however you want. All we have to give to God is Praise and praise is what they are doing! Do you know Jehovah is God? I sure do, than you so much for this music, it makes my day in this place called America!"
****
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This post provides selected comments about the way that women dance in the Nigerian Gospel video "Jehovah Na God - Double Double". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/11/evangelist-chimere-nwenu-jehovah-na-god.html for a pancocojams post about that video can be found at of that video.
The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, sociological, and aesthetic purposes.
Thanks to all the dancers who are featured in this video and thanks all those who commented in this video's discussion thread. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/11/two-versions-of-african-gospel-song.html for a post that features the original Nigerian version of "Double Double" and a Ghanaian version of that Gospel song.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Jehovah Na God- Double Double
Sam Johnson, Uploaded on Jun 6, 2011
Jehovah Na God, When Jesus Say Yes, Lift Him Up & My Lord Is Good
(Double Double)
-snip-
The songs end around 23:09 in the video. An interview with the lead singer Evangelist Chimere Nwenu begins after that. At the end of that interview at 28:52 there are short video clips of other Nigerian singers and dancers. It's likely that these video clips are also of Gospel music, but I'm not sure about that.
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE WAY WOMEN DANCE IN THIS VIDEO
I've included general comments about dancing in African Gospel videos. However, there is no mention in this discussion thread's comments about how the men dance.
These comments are given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments presented first, except for responses. However, these comments may not be in consecutive order. I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes.
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Foxyxzw1etw
2011
1. sossou11
"This is a good gospel song but the dancers, especially the girls made it seems like a typical secular song! I know it is a marketing strategy to have females in every music video but if you are going to make a gospel music video it would be appropriate to deviate from the secular style, less shaking butt and focus on the gospel itself"
**
2. Gbemisola Adeleke
in reply to sossou11
"@sossou11 i see what u are saying, we dont want want people to be caught up with the wrong message, however, it is there God that gave them there butts, let dem shake it for God if they want too."
**
2012
3. Alena D
"I enjoy African music so much. I was in an African church for about 2.5yrs and the music is so anointed. I like most of this dancing too. But 12:15, is not spiritual. Women must not move their bodies in carnal ways. Perhaps it's the culture but when it comes to God, we must be holy. God bless you all! Rev Alena/USA."
**
4. promise266uk
in reply to Alena D
"Thanks AlenaJolie, the only problem with this video is the vulgar dancing moves. It is not a culture thing, one with the spirit of God in him/her will not dance in such manner to a song praising and exalting the Lord. The truth is that most of these guys behind these products are interested more in the commercial output and not the spiritual output. Anybody with the spirit of God in him/her and living for the Lord will not support such dancing to the Name of Jesus."
**
5. Alexis Rouzard
"The dancing is completely NORMAL for Africans, that is our culture & our way of expressing our joy, when? we are happy & joyous we dance shout & sing.!"
**
6. Nkemakolam Chinwah
"When Jesus says YES, NOBODY CAN TELL HIM NO!!!! DANCE FOR JESUS!"
**
7. Matthew curry
"We must be careful not to attach our western European/ American mindsets regarding worship to this music. None of us know the hearts of those who dance, I don't find the dancing sexually suggestive at all. Though as an american, I'm tempted to do so because of the secular music here in this country. However; "This is not America". and I'm really glad that it is not."
**
8. promise266uk
in reply to Matthew curry
"Thanks 4 your comment. This piece of praise & worship song is a master piece. Western or not, any Christian that understands the text in this song will draw blessings from it. Despite my position about the dancing in the video, I listen to the song almost everyday, it is a massive blessing to me, and reminds me of God's goodness to me. "For the Righteous God knows the hearts and minds of man" (Psalms 7:9b). The Lord knows our inner minds, He knows who is righteous, in our doings & thinkings."
**
9. obijesus
"What a wonderfully exuberant and uplifting gospel Ibo Makossa music. This artist is a skillful blend of talent and spiritual anointing. He is an evangelist who is so powerfully in love with Jesus, and wants to share the news with the listener. It all shows in the deliverance of the music, the cadence of his voice, and the masterful instrumentation that melds with the message and the music."
**
10. obijesus
"would also like to comment on the negative comments about the dancing. At first glance, one might think that it is sexually suggestive like some posters are saying, however, you need to look deeper. These dancers are exuberant with their praise, and their body movement is an expression of that joyous abandon. Their dancing is more cultural than sexy. We do not attach sex to such dancing in our Africa. When dancers want to seduce, you will see it in both their moves and their dressing."
**
11. heavychic100
"Please regarding the comments about the dancers dancing seductively,i want to say that in the presence of God there is fullness of joy.Praising God is so overwhelming that you cant control your bodily movements.David danced unto the lord and even removed all his clothes in his joy,went stack naked all in the name of praising and God appreciated it to d extent that when his wife scolded him God punished her with barrenness all her life( 2 Sam 6;23).So let us not Judge because God knows the heart."
**
2013
12. Jeremiah Mbong
"Well, that is how we dance in Church, you can interprete it however you want. All we have to give to God is Praise and praise is what they are doing! Do you know Jehovah is God? I sure do, than you so much for this music, it makes my day in this place called America!"
**
13. Kuh Milo
"Booty shaking Makosa dance is Baal worship. Get it! Friendship with the world is enemity with God. WOULD YOU DO THIS VOLGA MAKOSA DANCE BEFORE YOUR OWN FATHER? HOW MUCH MORE THE ALMIGHTY GOD. WOULD YOU?"
**
14. musictemple1
in reply to Kuh Milo
"You haven't answered my question bro/sis, let me repeat again in case if you didn't understand what i meant before, i said is there any portion of the BIBLE where is was written the type of dance we must offer to the LORD ? booty shaking ? so one will stand a like electric pole when dancing ? dear you better free your self and worship HIM with all your heart, those kids dancing are appreciating the LORD..."
**
15. AURE SAVIOUR
"THE PROBLEM IS NOT WITH THE DANCERS BUT WE PEOPLE HAVE A WRONG MIND SET IN WATCHING THEM DANCE FOR GOD."
**
16. ladyarlene1
in reply to AURE SAVIOUR
"King David danced before the Lord and it pleased God. i think this is beautiful and uplifting to my heart. we all worship in our own way... no one should ever put down another's way."
**
17. Lordskeep
in reply to AURE SAVIOUR
"What's wrong with girls dancing? it's for Jehovah our God..Let them Dance for him : )"
**
18. Charles Nyeko, W.M.
"Nothing wrong with the dancing styles or dressings of the dancers or anybody in this video. When praising God please don't expect us to stand still like Chinese soldiers on parade! We praise our Lord with all the excitements and jump and kick.
Praise be to God. Thank you Brother for this wonderful songs and greetings to all the dancers and other people who helped in developing this video."
**
19. Richmoore William Barry
"THOSE WHO SAY THAT THE DANCE IS BAAL DANCE ARE OFFENDING THE ALMIGHTY GOD FOR SAYING SO......... AND LET ME ASK THOSE DOMED PEOPLE, WHICH PART OF THE BODY SHOULD MAN AND WOMEN SHAKE WHEN PRAISING GOD, I REALLY NEED TO KNOW,,,,,,,"
**
20. Pualine Kerkulah
"as for me i'm not looking at their dancing but the word in this beautiful song..."
**
21. Jeremiah Mbong
"Well, that is how we dance in Church, you can interprete it however you want. All we have to give to God is Praise and praise is what they are doing! Do you know Jehovah is God? I sure do, than you so much for this music, it makes my day in this place called America!"
****
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Tuesday, November 24, 2015
Children Posting On YouTube Discussion Threads- A Recipe For Danger
Edited by Azizi Powell
Revised - October 28, 2017
An article entitled "Home Computer Access and Internet Use" http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=home-computer-access indicates that
"In 2011, almost six out of ten children ages three to 17 used the Internet at home (58 percent), nearly six times as many as in 1997 (11 percent). Eighty-three percent had a computer at home, up from 15 percent in 1984.
Home access to computers and the Internet has expanded dramatically over the last two decades, and the ways children, youth, and adults use these tools are in rapid flux, as new technologies are developed. For example, Internet-enabled devices now include not only computers, but televisions, electronic books, and other handheld devices such as music players and cell-phones. Increasingly, the lines are blurred between computers and many other types of electronic media.
Young people are most likely to use a computer for social networking, playing games, and watching videos"...
-end of quote-
According to http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/04/youtube-google-search-kids-open-thread, "YouTube has a massive audience of children watching videos already, even if they’re not (in theory) allowed to sign up for an account."
-end of quote-
Facebook and YouTube discussion threads aren’t meant to be a safe space for children. But it may be more dangerous for children to write comments on YouTube discussion threads than it is for them to write comments on their family's and friends’ Facebook walls. Presumably, if and when children post on their parents' or their older siblings' Facebook pages, it is more likely that they are talking to people they know.
I'm concerned that children may think that posting comments on YouTube music discussion threads is a safe way of interacting with people who like the same music that they do, when in fact commenting on YouTube- and even sharing contact information such as their instagram address is quite dangerous.
Children can post on these discussion threads regardless of their ages either via their own account or by using their parent’s or other adults' or teen's accounts. Therefore what is worrisome is not just the ways that children post on these discussion threads, but the very fact that children can posts on these discussion threads whether the music video is supposedly geared for children or is supposedly geared for adults and teens.
Take for example this Hip Hop dance style video:
@DJLILMAN973 - SUPA M. THEME ( Team Lilman Anthem 2 ) OFFICIAL VIDEO
DJ LILMAN, Published on Dec 30, 2014
-snip-
Unlike some other Hip Hop dance centered videos, there's no cursing in that song, and there are no sexually explicit references or violent content in the song or in the video. Three young girls are included among the dancers in this video, which might further suggest to children viewing the video that it is okay for them to post comments about the video and engage in conversations with others about the video and/or the song.
However, that video's discussion thread contains some cursing and children will read those comments. But I'm even more concerned about the possibility of children being lured into dangerous situations by someone posting on that discussion thread. Lately I've noticed more instances of people on YouTube discussion threads posting their phone numbers. I've also found more instances of people engaging in chit chat with other commenters, which wouldn't be so bad if people like Subway's former spokesperson weren't out and about in the world preying on kids.
Here are some examples that I've culled from that Team Lilman Anthem 2 discussion thread - with the reminder that I don't have any problem with that particular song or video- It's the climate we live that I have a problem with.
Christian Jones, February 2015
"+Saleena Jackson you are hot by the way this Chris I'm 17"
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keyyah hart, February 2015
"Lol i got it me nd my friend was doing this all day we dont know all of it but we know the beginning we still learning the end part to clappers remix"
**
Bestie Best friend, February 2015
Reply
"+keyyah hart if u want I can teach u the whole thing
**
keyyah hart, February 2015
Reply
"Yea sure +shakyrah taylor"
****
Nikia Brito, March 2015
"Come and get me I'm a dancer"
****
Nakeisha Glover, February 2015
"I love you lil man can you come meet me"
****
[comments given in consecutive order]
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"The girl in front of the song she died fire"
**
Latoya Byrd, September 2015
Reply
"+Parker Forbes you is a lie no she did not"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
Reply
"Can I see your profile"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Kayla bullock who are you"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Yooo"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Who wit it"
**
Tiffany Brewster, September 2015
"Bsjgkdhz Dr y TX h XT ehd"
**
Amber Rencher, October 2015
"I Love you friend and make sure you call love to dance studios."
**
Parker Forbes, October 2015
"+Amber Rencher what's your number"
**
Sonia Smith, October 2015
"+Amber Rencher"
**
Angel Crespi, November 2015
"dude y ur vids got a little bit views"
**
Parker Forbes, November 2015
"Ok"
****
[comments given in consecutive order]
January 2015
DJ LILMAN Shared on Google+
"@DJLILMAN973 - SUPA M. THEME ( Team Lilman Anthem 2 ) OFFICIAL VIDEO"
**
briana smalls
"my brother is in the that song"
**
Unique Whitley
"Yessss"
**
gianni Dixon
Reply
"Which one is ur brother"
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"+briana smalls who you're brother"
**
Bestie Best friend
"Who ya brother"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+briana smalls who ya brother"
**
Katrina Lee
"I have a crush on dj lol man."
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"+Katrina Lee are u for real"
**
Neveah Warren
"Who your brother"
**
Katrina Lee
"Shakyrah you are aunt Vanessa daughter"
**
Katrina Lee
"DJ Lil man I got his number give me your number so I can give it to you"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"No"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"No no no no"
**
Kesha Williams
Reply
"+Neveah Warren"
**
February 2015
Lakesha Smith
"hydeqwqwertgjm,./ []'ASDFGJKLAsdfghjkl;ASDFGHJKL;ASDFGHJKL \AZSDFGH BNMJKL;DFGHJMM,ASDFGHJK.AsdfgbnmAQSWDFGYCG76SDFTGORFGJL;LOIZS bsdfgdjklslaSDFGVBJNMYTGF,DSZ\ZASWDCFGVBNM76YTRE,WA\c vb8921eu98233i7828wqu22wqigwq8YQ7E2988I28U129QWYHAUUA9QY7Asdwew23y78ewuqahsuuaiw8udut6 NMNBDE6YJWYS2ERDRP342ORVY3EFUEGYDGEB3YCFBEWXHB ZHBX ZHNBZXJAsi SDFGHJKL;a|"}|''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''yu7qwe236y23qsdfGUJIREWQDCFVGBNJM}z'\'\''''Z"
**
Lakesha Smith
"+Lakesha Smith ke'muual qqqqqqqqqqqqqqwertyuiop=\aSDFGHJKLL; Asdfghjklll; [[]' |zxcvbnm,./"
**
Lakesha Smith
"+Lakesha Smith"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee uhhhh yea are u Alasia's mom"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee are u my cuzin"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"Who"
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"Not u"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"Oh"
**
Katrina Lee
"hey shakyrah this Noonie"
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"Hey Noonie"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee wat up"
**
Layl L
"Can I join your team I'm awesome dancer just like your cool pretty daughter"
**
Wichie Picart
Reply
"Life is hard"
**
Layl L
"So"
**
syid afrika
Reply
"So what what you mean soooooo"
**
Ra'Naja Whiting
"+syid afrika"
**
FranDesan Santana
"+Ra'Naja Whiting"
**
April 2015
Zahir Hernandez
"DJ lil man"
**
Layl L
"So"
**
dasilkey1
"+butterflygirl lay"
**
May 2015
Lakale Saxton
"stop saying so little girl and you probley look like a dummy"
**
Gionna Thompson
"Gionna"
**
Sanaa Rogers
Reply
"+Lakale Saxton they are not a dummy dummy"
**
Layl L
Reply
"+Sanaa Rogers mind ur biz"
-end of comment examples-
Given the increase in internet use in homes, schools, and elsewhere in the community, it's probably a losing battle to try to keep children off of YouTube video music sites that appeal to their age group as well as to teens and adults.
YouTube has a prompt that people should report spam or abuse. But I don't think that YouTube is talking about the kind of abuse that worries me. My position is that adults need to monitor what their children and the children they are responsible for do online. Furthermore, we need to talk to children about the dangers of online social networking. Adults need to tell children that recording artists, dancers, and others who are in YouTube videos or say that they are in YouTube videos aren't their friends. Furthermore, children should be taught that people who post comments online aren't their friends. They shouldn't engage in chit chat with them and they should never share personal information with them. If children do post online comments, they should ignore people they don't know who try to engage them in conversation.
I'm interested in your comments and suggestions about this subject. How do we help children protect themselves online?
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Revised - October 28, 2017
An article entitled "Home Computer Access and Internet Use" http://www.childtrends.org/?indicators=home-computer-access indicates that
"In 2011, almost six out of ten children ages three to 17 used the Internet at home (58 percent), nearly six times as many as in 1997 (11 percent). Eighty-three percent had a computer at home, up from 15 percent in 1984.
Home access to computers and the Internet has expanded dramatically over the last two decades, and the ways children, youth, and adults use these tools are in rapid flux, as new technologies are developed. For example, Internet-enabled devices now include not only computers, but televisions, electronic books, and other handheld devices such as music players and cell-phones. Increasingly, the lines are blurred between computers and many other types of electronic media.
Young people are most likely to use a computer for social networking, playing games, and watching videos"...
-end of quote-
According to http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/dec/04/youtube-google-search-kids-open-thread, "YouTube has a massive audience of children watching videos already, even if they’re not (in theory) allowed to sign up for an account."
-end of quote-
Facebook and YouTube discussion threads aren’t meant to be a safe space for children. But it may be more dangerous for children to write comments on YouTube discussion threads than it is for them to write comments on their family's and friends’ Facebook walls. Presumably, if and when children post on their parents' or their older siblings' Facebook pages, it is more likely that they are talking to people they know.
I'm concerned that children may think that posting comments on YouTube music discussion threads is a safe way of interacting with people who like the same music that they do, when in fact commenting on YouTube- and even sharing contact information such as their instagram address is quite dangerous.
Children can post on these discussion threads regardless of their ages either via their own account or by using their parent’s or other adults' or teen's accounts. Therefore what is worrisome is not just the ways that children post on these discussion threads, but the very fact that children can posts on these discussion threads whether the music video is supposedly geared for children or is supposedly geared for adults and teens.
Take for example this Hip Hop dance style video:
@DJLILMAN973 - SUPA M. THEME ( Team Lilman Anthem 2 ) OFFICIAL VIDEO
DJ LILMAN, Published on Dec 30, 2014
-snip-
Unlike some other Hip Hop dance centered videos, there's no cursing in that song, and there are no sexually explicit references or violent content in the song or in the video. Three young girls are included among the dancers in this video, which might further suggest to children viewing the video that it is okay for them to post comments about the video and engage in conversations with others about the video and/or the song.
However, that video's discussion thread contains some cursing and children will read those comments. But I'm even more concerned about the possibility of children being lured into dangerous situations by someone posting on that discussion thread. Lately I've noticed more instances of people on YouTube discussion threads posting their phone numbers. I've also found more instances of people engaging in chit chat with other commenters, which wouldn't be so bad if people like Subway's former spokesperson weren't out and about in the world preying on kids.
Here are some examples that I've culled from that Team Lilman Anthem 2 discussion thread - with the reminder that I don't have any problem with that particular song or video- It's the climate we live that I have a problem with.
Christian Jones, February 2015
"+Saleena Jackson you are hot by the way this Chris I'm 17"
****
keyyah hart, February 2015
"Lol i got it me nd my friend was doing this all day we dont know all of it but we know the beginning we still learning the end part to clappers remix"
**
Bestie Best friend, February 2015
Reply
"+keyyah hart if u want I can teach u the whole thing
**
keyyah hart, February 2015
Reply
"Yea sure +shakyrah taylor"
****
Nikia Brito, March 2015
"Come and get me I'm a dancer"
****
Nakeisha Glover, February 2015
"I love you lil man can you come meet me"
****
[comments given in consecutive order]
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"The girl in front of the song she died fire"
**
Latoya Byrd, September 2015
Reply
"+Parker Forbes you is a lie no she did not"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
Reply
"Can I see your profile"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Kayla bullock who are you"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Yooo"
**
Parker Forbes, September 2015
"Who wit it"
**
Tiffany Brewster, September 2015
"Bsjgkdhz Dr y TX h XT ehd"
**
Amber Rencher, October 2015
"I Love you friend and make sure you call love to dance studios."
**
Parker Forbes, October 2015
"+Amber Rencher what's your number"
**
Sonia Smith, October 2015
"+Amber Rencher"
**
Angel Crespi, November 2015
"dude y ur vids got a little bit views"
**
Parker Forbes, November 2015
"Ok"
****
[comments given in consecutive order]
January 2015
DJ LILMAN Shared on Google+
"@DJLILMAN973 - SUPA M. THEME ( Team Lilman Anthem 2 ) OFFICIAL VIDEO"
**
briana smalls
"my brother is in the that song"
**
Unique Whitley
"Yessss"
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gianni Dixon
Reply
"Which one is ur brother"
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Bestie Best friend
Reply
"+briana smalls who you're brother"
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Bestie Best friend
"Who ya brother"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+briana smalls who ya brother"
**
Katrina Lee
"I have a crush on dj lol man."
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"+Katrina Lee are u for real"
**
Neveah Warren
"Who your brother"
**
Katrina Lee
"Shakyrah you are aunt Vanessa daughter"
**
Katrina Lee
"DJ Lil man I got his number give me your number so I can give it to you"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"No"
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Neveah Warren
Reply
"No no no no"
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Kesha Williams
Reply
"+Neveah Warren"
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February 2015
Lakesha Smith
"hydeqwqwertgjm,./ []'ASDFGJKLAsdfghjkl;ASDFGHJKL;ASDFGHJKL \AZSDFGH BNMJKL;DFGHJMM,ASDFGHJK.AsdfgbnmAQSWDFGYCG76SDFTGORFGJL;LOIZS bsdfgdjklslaSDFGVBJNMYTGF,DSZ\ZASWDCFGVBNM76YTRE,WA\c vb8921eu98233i7828wqu22wqigwq8YQ7E2988I28U129QWYHAUUA9QY7Asdwew23y78ewuqahsuuaiw8udut6 NMNBDE6YJWYS2ERDRP342ORVY3EFUEGYDGEB3YCFBEWXHB ZHBX ZHNBZXJAsi SDFGHJKL;a|"}|''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''yu7qwe236y23qsdfGUJIREWQDCFVGBNJM}z'\'\''''Z"
**
Lakesha Smith
"+Lakesha Smith ke'muual qqqqqqqqqqqqqqwertyuiop=\aSDFGHJKLL; Asdfghjklll; [[]' |zxcvbnm,./"
**
Lakesha Smith
"+Lakesha Smith"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee uhhhh yea are u Alasia's mom"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee are u my cuzin"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"Who"
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"Not u"
**
Neveah Warren
Reply
"Oh"
**
Katrina Lee
"hey shakyrah this Noonie"
**
Bestie Best friend
Reply
"Hey Noonie"
**
Bestie Best friend
"+Katrina Lee wat up"
**
Layl L
"Can I join your team I'm awesome dancer just like your cool pretty daughter"
**
Wichie Picart
Reply
"Life is hard"
**
Layl L
"So"
**
syid afrika
Reply
"So what what you mean soooooo"
**
Ra'Naja Whiting
"+syid afrika"
**
FranDesan Santana
"+Ra'Naja Whiting"
**
April 2015
Zahir Hernandez
"DJ lil man"
**
Layl L
"So"
**
dasilkey1
"+butterflygirl lay"
**
May 2015
Lakale Saxton
"stop saying so little girl and you probley look like a dummy"
**
Gionna Thompson
"Gionna"
**
Sanaa Rogers
Reply
"+Lakale Saxton they are not a dummy dummy"
**
Layl L
Reply
"+Sanaa Rogers mind ur biz"
-end of comment examples-
Given the increase in internet use in homes, schools, and elsewhere in the community, it's probably a losing battle to try to keep children off of YouTube video music sites that appeal to their age group as well as to teens and adults.
YouTube has a prompt that people should report spam or abuse. But I don't think that YouTube is talking about the kind of abuse that worries me. My position is that adults need to monitor what their children and the children they are responsible for do online. Furthermore, we need to talk to children about the dangers of online social networking. Adults need to tell children that recording artists, dancers, and others who are in YouTube videos or say that they are in YouTube videos aren't their friends. Furthermore, children should be taught that people who post comments online aren't their friends. They shouldn't engage in chit chat with them and they should never share personal information with them. If children do post online comments, they should ignore people they don't know who try to engage them in conversation.
I'm interested in your comments and suggestions about this subject. How do we help children protect themselves online?
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All copyrights remain with their owners.
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Visitor comments are welcome.
Sunday, November 22, 2015
President Obama's "Folks Wanna Pop Off" Comment & Other Related African American Vernacular Terms
Edited by Azizi Powell
On November 16, 2015, President Obama used the Black vernacular term "pop off" during his closing press conference on day two of the G20 Turkey Leaders Summit in Antalya, Turkey. This post provides a small sample of the reactions on Black Twitter, YouTube, and other online sites to President Obama's use of that term. This post also provides definitions of "pop off" as well as definitions of and comments about some related Black vernacular terms that are used in the featured comments.
The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and etymological purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of the featured videos on YouTube.
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WHAT "POP OFF" MEANS
Definitions from http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pop+off pop off
1. Slang. to make an unnecessary remark; to interrupt with a remark; to sound off. Please don't pop off all the time. Bob keeps popping off when he should be listening.
2. Slang. to lose one's temper. Now, don't pop off. Keep your cool. I don't know why she popped off at me. All I did was say hello.
3. To speak thoughtlessly in a burst of released anger: The movie star popped off at the reporters who were hounding him.
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Additional definitions of/uses of "pop off" are found below.
"Pop off" is considered to be an African American Vernacular English term. References below to the Southside of Chicago (Illinois), also given as Chi-town, don't necessarily mean that the "pop off" term originated in that locality. But those references do mean that that term is most closely associated with the hood [Black poor and working class neighborhoods such as the Southside of Chicago.]
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TWO EXAMPLES OF ONLINE ARTICLES ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYING "POP OFF"
From http://www.eurweb.com/2015/11/obama-says-folks-wanna-pop-off-in-a-speech-and-it-goes-viral-watch/
Obama Says ‘Folks Wanna Pop Off’ in a Speech and it Goes Viral
Nov 16, 15 [2015] by EURPublisher01
"U.S President Barack Obama speaks to the media during his closing press conference on day two of the G20 Turkey Leaders Summit on November 16, 2015 in Antalya, Turkey.
*The South Side came out of President Barack Obama today while addressing critics that he says “pop off” with their opinions about U.S. policy regarding ISIS.
The moment happened during a news conference at the G20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey following two days of talks with world leaders. The president was visibly annoyed by repeated questions about whether he had underestimated the power of ISIS, particularly in the wake of Friday’s attacks in Paris.
GOP candidates Ben Carson, Jeb Bush and Donald Trump have been criticizing the Obama administration for either being too soft, or showing ignorance with its current policy. Carson said Obama’s decision to withdraw from Iraq led to the formation of ISIS, and that he has intel about its link with China that Obama’s administration was unable to find. Trump proclaimed that he would “bomb the s**t” out of ISIS, and Bush suggested that any U.S. assistance to refugees fleeing the Middle East should be primarily focused on Christians, another idea that rankled Obama.
“That’s shameful,” Obama declared. “That’s not American. That’s not who we are.”
Obama said most of his critics are simply “talking as if they’re tough” and offering no real ideas.
“Folks want to pop off and have opinions on what they think they would do, present a specific plan,” he said.”...
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This excerpt was reproduced as it was found on that site.
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From http://blackamericaweb.com/2015/11/19/you-knew-it-was-coming-president-obamas-pop-off-dance-watch/ You Knew It Was Coming: President Obama’s ‘Pop Off’ Dance Nov 19, 2015
By EURweb.com
"You knew this was coming.
A video has surfaced on YouTube showing President Obama appearing to dance super hard to a music mix of him repeating “pop off,” spliced from his speech in Turkey earlier this week.
As previously reported, the president was referring to critics of his administration’s game plan in Syria when he said, ““Folks wanna pop off and have opinions on what they think they would do, present a specific plan.”
In the spoof video posted Wednesday, the audio was mixed by @JXCANNON. The video footage, edited by @ACThePlug, was taken in part from a previous video that appeared to show Obama in a victory dance during his “Osama Bin Laden Has Been Killed” speech."
-snip-
That video is given as Example #4 below.
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YOUTUBE VIDEOS
Example #1: Obama: "If Folks Wanna Pop Off..."
B_O Memes Published on Nov 16, 2015
Follow us on Instagram/Twitter/Vine: @B_ObamaMemes. Like us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/BObamaMemes.
-snip-
Screen caption: "When you bring the hood side of yourself to the white house."
-snip-
After saying "Folks wanna pop off".... President Obama said "If they think that their advisors are somehow better than the chairmen of my joint chiefs of staff, the folks who are on the ground. I wanna meet them."
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Selected comments:
Aundra the Esthetician, November 17, 2015
"Prez said, "Bring ya 'A' game when you step to me and the crew". Kablooey."
-snip-
"step to me" = in this context means "challenge me"
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A Daniel, November 17, 2015
"YEEEAH MAN! That's the man who I've been waiting to see!!"
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Cole Norum, November 17, 2015
Reply
"+A Daniel Yessir. Don't really agree that it's all "hood," but I love it. I get so caught up with the presidential race that sometimes I just stop and realize we're really not gonna see a president like this for quite some time. I'll miss him, that's for sure."
**
A Daniel, November 17, 2015
Reply
"+Cole Norum Oh yes. I might like everything he does but I will miss this President"
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symbiote, November 17, 2015
"Real Chitown of you Mr. President...Ha!"
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Rodney Davis, November 18, 2015
Reply
"it came out! Lol"
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Ortho Tech, November 19, 2015
"The President says, "Folks wanna pop off," and everyone cheers him on, but how many of you know the question that was asked leading up to him saying this, the content of the speech he gave, or what the speech was even about? How many of you even care?"
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Deondre Davis, November 20, 2015
Reply
"Oh so you popping off now"
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Ortho Tech, November 19, 2015
Reply
"+Deondre Davis LOL! I guess everyone has to pop off every now and then."
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hicdee01, November 19, 2015
""Folks want to pop off...." he took it there. They better stop yapping their gums and present a specific plan."
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Example #2: President Obama "Pop Off"
Speak Yo Peace TV, Published on Nov 16, 2015
President Obama "Pop Off" on his sneak dissers
-snip-
Screen caption: “When the President hear about the sneak dissing”.
The video follows with a clip of President Obama’s comment, then scenes of Black people dancing to Dem Franchize Boyz's 2008 Hip Hop song “Talkin Out The Side Of Your Neck”.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sneak+Dissin&defid=5143854 defines "Sneak Dissin" as "someone who's talking trash behind someone elses back."
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"Takking trash" - talking bad [not good] about someone; dissin, insulting someone, spreading negative gossip about that person
"Talking out the side of your neck" (or talking out the side of your head") means to talk nonsense. Read the definition given in the selected comments below.
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Selected comments:
Kitami Woome, November 17, 2015
"Obama is a Brother, he diddy bops when he walks and spent years in the Chi so him saying pop off does not surprise me. Best President ever!"
-snip-
Brother= Black man;
diddy bops - - Walks (struts) with swag, walks in a cool (hip) way which many young Black men do.
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Kathy Hardney, November 18, 2015
"Talkin' out the side of your neck Also known as having NO EARTHLY idea whatsoever of what you are saying because you are stupid."
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Example #3: Obama Responds To Paris Attacks! "Folks Wanna Pop Off & Have Opinions, Present A Specific Plan"
CallMeSB, Published on Nov 16, 2015
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Selected comments:
Jasonee Foster, November 17, 2015
"folks want to pop off... ! Word POTUS"
-snip-
"Word" = in this context, "Word" is an interjection that means "You're right." It has the same meaning or similar meaning as "Amen" and "Right on!"
POTUS President of the United States
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Richard Zippler, November 17, 2015
"I really like the side of Obama that we're seeing now that he's heading out of the presidency and doesn't have to eat congresses ass all the time."
**
Rayvyn007, November 19, 2015
Reply
"+Richard Zippler I LOVE that he said how some republicans "pop off" at the mouth like they know better than him. Now we have Ted Cruz selling wolf tickets talking about, "Come say it too my face." LOL What does he think will happen if Obama said it to his face? Would he take a poke at him? The Secret Service would beat the sh-t* out of Ted."
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*That word was fully spelled out in that comment.
"Wolf tickets" = talking big but not backing it up, similar to "talking trash"
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Ladi Like, November 18, 2015
"obama keeping it real,,,,as usual."
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iplaytheclarinet, November 19, 2015
"he looking at the audience like please try me."
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Malik Tyler, November 21, 2015
"Obama for president again preach it Obama"
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Rachel Stoutamire, November 21, 2015
"I bet folks in the audience were looking like "pop off? what does he mean by that????" LMAO"
**
CallMeSB, November 21, 2015
Reply
"takes time to understand what it means for them #"
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Example #4: President Barack Obama's 'Pop Off' Comment Remix Video
@ACThePlug, Published on Nov 18, 2015
Remix track by @JXCANNON Video by @ACThePlug
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BLACK TWEETS ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S "FOLKS WANNA POP OFF" COMMENT
From https://twitter.com/deray/status/666292575809105920?lang=en [all from November 16, 2015, These comments may not be in consecutive order.]
deray mckesson @deray And Obama said, "If folks wanna pop off..."
[deray shows the video]
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lanell~ @crayton2004
"@deray my president is black [big smiley face icon] lol"
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Pamela Goodner @PamelaGoodner
"@deray Love my President! He was gangster today. They don't want none. If folks wanna pop off.... He tired of their madness!"
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everett cox @PhantomChaos
"@PamelaGoodner @deray Yes he's tired of all the first and second guessers in the media and the House and Senate. Put up or shut up he says."
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Julie the Lacerator @SamuraiKnitter
"@deray @Nettaaaaaaaa Haha, the body language. He is fed the hell up with these idiots."
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Alllady247 @Alllady247 Brooklyn, NY
"@deray Come with it or shut the hell up. Yes Mr. President"
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Nia Young @homewithnia
"@XLNB @deray that's that Chicago southside! Lol"
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Glowop @Onthalowkey
"@deray lol the hood never left"
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✵It Me✵ @xGooN187x
"Obama is straight G love that dude RT @deray And Obama said, "If folks wanna pop off..." "
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Edith Gaitho @MonroeG5
"@deray @Kisco75 Ha, that's my POTUS!"
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CJ @TRIIIPLETHREAT1
"@deray @MichaelSkolnik he is struggling everyday to contain his inner blackness. His last few months are going to be classic."
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Pamela Goodner @PamelaGoodner
"@deray Love my President! He was gangster today. They don't want none. If folks wanna pop off.... He tired of their madness!"
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everett cox @PhantomChaos
"@PamelaGoodner @deray Yes he's tired of all the first and second guessers in the media and the House and Senate. Put up or shut up he says."
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Mishi @MouthyMishi
"@deray @Nettaaaaaaaa I love how real he is now that he doesn't have to campaign again."
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In Hip Hop (influenced) culture, calling someone a gangsta, and/or a straight G (a real gangsta) are compliments which means that the person is "hard" and down with real life in the hood. In those contexts, "gangsta" doesn't (necessarily) mean a person who is engaged in illegal activities.
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AN ADDITIONAL YOUTUBE VIDEO SUMMARY
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nub4vt_blY "
Obama - If Folks Wanna Pop Off" Darrion Marz Published on Nov 17, 2015
"During a press conference this morning, President Obama used the term “pop off” in reference to people making uninformed and patently ridiculous claims about what should be done with France and ISIS. And, unless I go outside today and witness a Sojourner Truth hologram double dutching with Marilyn Mosby, I’m very confident in declaring that the Black president dismissively referring to his haters the exact same way Loretha Lyon or Draymond Green or your barber or your best friend or you would have will be the Blackest thing that ever happened this week.
So Black, in fact, that instead of attempting to determine and assess exactly how Black it was, I’m more interested in how “folks wanna pop off” found its way into the President’s lexicon. Does he possess a reservoir of culturally relevant slang terms and colloquialisms that he employs when White people aren’t around?
We know he code switches — we see it with every seven-step handshake, and his rendition of Amazing Grace during Rev. Clementa Pinckney’s eulogy is a first-ballot entry in the Code Switch Hall of Fame — but he’s also a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. (No. seriously. He does.) He is, and will always be, cool in a macro sense. But, in micro sense, he, again, is a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. This is not what cool people do. Cool people do, however, reflexively use “pop off” to address haters. President Obama is a paradox."
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This summary was reformatted to enhance reading clarity.
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Visitor comments are welcome.
On November 16, 2015, President Obama used the Black vernacular term "pop off" during his closing press conference on day two of the G20 Turkey Leaders Summit in Antalya, Turkey. This post provides a small sample of the reactions on Black Twitter, YouTube, and other online sites to President Obama's use of that term. This post also provides definitions of "pop off" as well as definitions of and comments about some related Black vernacular terms that are used in the featured comments.
The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and etymological purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of the featured videos on YouTube.
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WHAT "POP OFF" MEANS
Definitions from http://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/pop+off pop off
1. Slang. to make an unnecessary remark; to interrupt with a remark; to sound off. Please don't pop off all the time. Bob keeps popping off when he should be listening.
2. Slang. to lose one's temper. Now, don't pop off. Keep your cool. I don't know why she popped off at me. All I did was say hello.
3. To speak thoughtlessly in a burst of released anger: The movie star popped off at the reporters who were hounding him.
-snip-
Additional definitions of/uses of "pop off" are found below.
"Pop off" is considered to be an African American Vernacular English term. References below to the Southside of Chicago (Illinois), also given as Chi-town, don't necessarily mean that the "pop off" term originated in that locality. But those references do mean that that term is most closely associated with the hood [Black poor and working class neighborhoods such as the Southside of Chicago.]
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TWO EXAMPLES OF ONLINE ARTICLES ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA SAYING "POP OFF"
From http://www.eurweb.com/2015/11/obama-says-folks-wanna-pop-off-in-a-speech-and-it-goes-viral-watch/
Obama Says ‘Folks Wanna Pop Off’ in a Speech and it Goes Viral
Nov 16, 15 [2015] by EURPublisher01
"U.S President Barack Obama speaks to the media during his closing press conference on day two of the G20 Turkey Leaders Summit on November 16, 2015 in Antalya, Turkey.
*The South Side came out of President Barack Obama today while addressing critics that he says “pop off” with their opinions about U.S. policy regarding ISIS.
The moment happened during a news conference at the G20 Summit in Antalya, Turkey following two days of talks with world leaders. The president was visibly annoyed by repeated questions about whether he had underestimated the power of ISIS, particularly in the wake of Friday’s attacks in Paris.
GOP candidates Ben Carson, Jeb Bush and Donald Trump have been criticizing the Obama administration for either being too soft, or showing ignorance with its current policy. Carson said Obama’s decision to withdraw from Iraq led to the formation of ISIS, and that he has intel about its link with China that Obama’s administration was unable to find. Trump proclaimed that he would “bomb the s**t” out of ISIS, and Bush suggested that any U.S. assistance to refugees fleeing the Middle East should be primarily focused on Christians, another idea that rankled Obama.
“That’s shameful,” Obama declared. “That’s not American. That’s not who we are.”
Obama said most of his critics are simply “talking as if they’re tough” and offering no real ideas.
“Folks want to pop off and have opinions on what they think they would do, present a specific plan,” he said.”...
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This excerpt was reproduced as it was found on that site.
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From http://blackamericaweb.com/2015/11/19/you-knew-it-was-coming-president-obamas-pop-off-dance-watch/ You Knew It Was Coming: President Obama’s ‘Pop Off’ Dance Nov 19, 2015
By EURweb.com
"You knew this was coming.
A video has surfaced on YouTube showing President Obama appearing to dance super hard to a music mix of him repeating “pop off,” spliced from his speech in Turkey earlier this week.
As previously reported, the president was referring to critics of his administration’s game plan in Syria when he said, ““Folks wanna pop off and have opinions on what they think they would do, present a specific plan.”
In the spoof video posted Wednesday, the audio was mixed by @JXCANNON. The video footage, edited by @ACThePlug, was taken in part from a previous video that appeared to show Obama in a victory dance during his “Osama Bin Laden Has Been Killed” speech."
-snip-
That video is given as Example #4 below.
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YOUTUBE VIDEOS
Example #1: Obama: "If Folks Wanna Pop Off..."
B_O Memes Published on Nov 16, 2015
Follow us on Instagram/Twitter/Vine: @B_ObamaMemes. Like us on Facebook: www.facebook.com/BObamaMemes.
-snip-
Screen caption: "When you bring the hood side of yourself to the white house."
-snip-
After saying "Folks wanna pop off".... President Obama said "If they think that their advisors are somehow better than the chairmen of my joint chiefs of staff, the folks who are on the ground. I wanna meet them."
-snip-
Selected comments:
Aundra the Esthetician, November 17, 2015
"Prez said, "Bring ya 'A' game when you step to me and the crew". Kablooey."
-snip-
"step to me" = in this context means "challenge me"
**
A Daniel, November 17, 2015
"YEEEAH MAN! That's the man who I've been waiting to see!!"
**
Cole Norum, November 17, 2015
Reply
"+A Daniel Yessir. Don't really agree that it's all "hood," but I love it. I get so caught up with the presidential race that sometimes I just stop and realize we're really not gonna see a president like this for quite some time. I'll miss him, that's for sure."
**
A Daniel, November 17, 2015
Reply
"+Cole Norum Oh yes. I might like everything he does but I will miss this President"
**
symbiote, November 17, 2015
"Real Chitown of you Mr. President...Ha!"
**
Rodney Davis, November 18, 2015
Reply
"it came out! Lol"
**
Ortho Tech, November 19, 2015
"The President says, "Folks wanna pop off," and everyone cheers him on, but how many of you know the question that was asked leading up to him saying this, the content of the speech he gave, or what the speech was even about? How many of you even care?"
**
Deondre Davis, November 20, 2015
Reply
"Oh so you popping off now"
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Ortho Tech, November 19, 2015
Reply
"+Deondre Davis LOL! I guess everyone has to pop off every now and then."
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hicdee01, November 19, 2015
""Folks want to pop off...." he took it there. They better stop yapping their gums and present a specific plan."
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Example #2: President Obama "Pop Off"
Speak Yo Peace TV, Published on Nov 16, 2015
President Obama "Pop Off" on his sneak dissers
-snip-
Screen caption: “When the President hear about the sneak dissing”.
The video follows with a clip of President Obama’s comment, then scenes of Black people dancing to Dem Franchize Boyz's 2008 Hip Hop song “Talkin Out The Side Of Your Neck”.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Sneak+Dissin&defid=5143854 defines "Sneak Dissin" as "someone who's talking trash behind someone elses back."
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"Takking trash" - talking bad [not good] about someone; dissin, insulting someone, spreading negative gossip about that person
"Talking out the side of your neck" (or talking out the side of your head") means to talk nonsense. Read the definition given in the selected comments below.
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Selected comments:
Kitami Woome, November 17, 2015
"Obama is a Brother, he diddy bops when he walks and spent years in the Chi so him saying pop off does not surprise me. Best President ever!"
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Brother= Black man;
diddy bops - - Walks (struts) with swag, walks in a cool (hip) way which many young Black men do.
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Kathy Hardney, November 18, 2015
"Talkin' out the side of your neck Also known as having NO EARTHLY idea whatsoever of what you are saying because you are stupid."
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Example #3: Obama Responds To Paris Attacks! "Folks Wanna Pop Off & Have Opinions, Present A Specific Plan"
CallMeSB, Published on Nov 16, 2015
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Selected comments:
Jasonee Foster, November 17, 2015
"folks want to pop off... ! Word POTUS"
-snip-
"Word" = in this context, "Word" is an interjection that means "You're right." It has the same meaning or similar meaning as "Amen" and "Right on!"
POTUS President of the United States
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Richard Zippler, November 17, 2015
"I really like the side of Obama that we're seeing now that he's heading out of the presidency and doesn't have to eat congresses ass all the time."
**
Rayvyn007, November 19, 2015
Reply
"+Richard Zippler I LOVE that he said how some republicans "pop off" at the mouth like they know better than him. Now we have Ted Cruz selling wolf tickets talking about, "Come say it too my face." LOL What does he think will happen if Obama said it to his face? Would he take a poke at him? The Secret Service would beat the sh-t* out of Ted."
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*That word was fully spelled out in that comment.
"Wolf tickets" = talking big but not backing it up, similar to "talking trash"
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Ladi Like, November 18, 2015
"obama keeping it real,,,,as usual."
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iplaytheclarinet, November 19, 2015
"he looking at the audience like please try me."
**
Malik Tyler, November 21, 2015
"Obama for president again preach it Obama"
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Rachel Stoutamire, November 21, 2015
"I bet folks in the audience were looking like "pop off? what does he mean by that????" LMAO"
**
CallMeSB, November 21, 2015
Reply
"takes time to understand what it means for them #"
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Example #4: President Barack Obama's 'Pop Off' Comment Remix Video
@ACThePlug, Published on Nov 18, 2015
Remix track by @JXCANNON Video by @ACThePlug
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BLACK TWEETS ABOUT PRESIDENT OBAMA'S "FOLKS WANNA POP OFF" COMMENT
From https://twitter.com/deray/status/666292575809105920?lang=en [all from November 16, 2015, These comments may not be in consecutive order.]
deray mckesson @deray And Obama said, "If folks wanna pop off..."
[deray shows the video]
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lanell~ @crayton2004
"@deray my president is black [big smiley face icon] lol"
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Pamela Goodner @PamelaGoodner
"@deray Love my President! He was gangster today. They don't want none. If folks wanna pop off.... He tired of their madness!"
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everett cox @PhantomChaos
"@PamelaGoodner @deray Yes he's tired of all the first and second guessers in the media and the House and Senate. Put up or shut up he says."
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Julie the Lacerator @SamuraiKnitter
"@deray @Nettaaaaaaaa Haha, the body language. He is fed the hell up with these idiots."
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Alllady247 @Alllady247 Brooklyn, NY
"@deray Come with it or shut the hell up. Yes Mr. President"
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Nia Young @homewithnia
"@XLNB @deray that's that Chicago southside! Lol"
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Glowop @Onthalowkey
"@deray lol the hood never left"
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✵It Me✵ @xGooN187x
"Obama is straight G love that dude RT @deray And Obama said, "If folks wanna pop off..." "
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Edith Gaitho @MonroeG5
"@deray @Kisco75 Ha, that's my POTUS!"
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CJ @TRIIIPLETHREAT1
"@deray @MichaelSkolnik he is struggling everyday to contain his inner blackness. His last few months are going to be classic."
**
Pamela Goodner @PamelaGoodner
"@deray Love my President! He was gangster today. They don't want none. If folks wanna pop off.... He tired of their madness!"
**
everett cox @PhantomChaos
"@PamelaGoodner @deray Yes he's tired of all the first and second guessers in the media and the House and Senate. Put up or shut up he says."
**
Mishi @MouthyMishi
"@deray @Nettaaaaaaaa I love how real he is now that he doesn't have to campaign again."
-snip-
In Hip Hop (influenced) culture, calling someone a gangsta, and/or a straight G (a real gangsta) are compliments which means that the person is "hard" and down with real life in the hood. In those contexts, "gangsta" doesn't (necessarily) mean a person who is engaged in illegal activities.
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AN ADDITIONAL YOUTUBE VIDEO SUMMARY
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Nub4vt_blY "
Obama - If Folks Wanna Pop Off" Darrion Marz Published on Nov 17, 2015
"During a press conference this morning, President Obama used the term “pop off” in reference to people making uninformed and patently ridiculous claims about what should be done with France and ISIS. And, unless I go outside today and witness a Sojourner Truth hologram double dutching with Marilyn Mosby, I’m very confident in declaring that the Black president dismissively referring to his haters the exact same way Loretha Lyon or Draymond Green or your barber or your best friend or you would have will be the Blackest thing that ever happened this week.
So Black, in fact, that instead of attempting to determine and assess exactly how Black it was, I’m more interested in how “folks wanna pop off” found its way into the President’s lexicon. Does he possess a reservoir of culturally relevant slang terms and colloquialisms that he employs when White people aren’t around?
We know he code switches — we see it with every seven-step handshake, and his rendition of Amazing Grace during Rev. Clementa Pinckney’s eulogy is a first-ballot entry in the Code Switch Hall of Fame — but he’s also a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. (No. seriously. He does.) He is, and will always be, cool in a macro sense. But, in micro sense, he, again, is a 54-year-old man who hoops in Sam’s Club Nikes and tucks his shirt into his sweatpants. This is not what cool people do. Cool people do, however, reflexively use “pop off” to address haters. President Obama is a paradox."
-snip-
This summary was reformatted to enhance reading clarity.
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Saturday, September 5, 2015
Comments About African & African Diaspora Unity In A Discussion Thread For Tiwa Savage's Nigerian Afrobeat Video "Eminado"
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post provides a portion of the comments in a sub-set of the discussion thread for Tiwa Savage's (Nigerian) Afrobeat video "Eminado". Commenters in this sub-set wrote about the subject of the influence of African Americans on African cultures and the subject of African and African Diaspora unity.
Tiwa Savage's video is also embedded in this post.
The content of this post is provided for cultural, sociological, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Tiwa Savage for her musical creativity and thanks to all those who are featured in this video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post. Also, thanks to producer/s of this video, and the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Tiwa Savage Ft. Don Jazzy - Eminado [Official Video]
officialtiwasavage,Published on Nov 4, 2013
Music Video by Tiwa Savage "Eminado"
© 2013 323 ENTERTAINMENT. MAVIN RECORDS
-snip-
This video begins with the explanation that "'eminado' means
goodluck charm."
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM VIDEO'S DISCUSSION
As of September 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM EST, Tiwa Savage's "Eminado" music video that is embedded above had 11,401,951 viewer hits and 2,667 total comments.
The thirty three selected comments that are presented in this pancocojams post are given in relative chronological order based on their posting date. It should be noted that these comments represent less than half of the sub-set of that particular discussion on the subject of the influence of African Americans on African cultures and the subject of African and African Diaspora unity. As of September 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM EST there were 63 replies to the first comment in that sub-thread. That comment is given as #1 below.
I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes only.
1. Saudi Baskerville, February 2015
"I can so clearly [see?, tell?] how African American culture influences African culture and vice versa. It's beautiful. We are one in the same. Love us all!!!"
-snip-
The words in parenthesis are my guesses about the word that is obviously missing in this sentence.
**
2.Xstolynne a, March 2015
"Sorry but Nigerian culture is different from AA CULTURE, PLEASE STOP THE COMPARISON, THIS SIMPLY CALLED AFROBEATS"
**
3. Saudi Baskerville, March 2015
"Never said it was the same. I see the difference, I hear the difference, I know they're different, however we are connected in ways more than one and it's evident."
**
4. Xstolynne a, March 2015
"Oh ok, because a lot of people try to discredit Nigerians and their music...Anyway One love."
**
5. Saudi Baskerville, March 2015
"Lol na I'd never do that."
**
6. The Flying KIwi, March 2015
"[profanity deleted] off lol. In African American culture, you don't value the "light skin" counterparts of your women Blackmen seem to worship.. Never mind the dark black women. They are strippers, bi&&hes* and hoes.
African American culture is an infection and burden that has encroached on the innocent African values. If you watch African music videos they typically involve the man adorning and exalting the woman. Not a trophy, a piece of flesh or sex object to show how much money they earn.
African American music these days is a disappointment and it pains me to see so more and more African artist trying to pick up this illness just to appeal to the masses...relegating and pulverising the good in black people just to make some money. Pathetic.
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out.
**
7. Christine Freeland, April 2015
"Lol, +Saudi Baskerville I get where you're coming from with your comment and I completely agree with you. It's truly an awesome thing to see how our arts and cultures influence each other and we're all beautiful people!"
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8. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville African Americans have at least 73-85% African DNA. Well to me that makes them African.."
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9. Dulce Pero Negrita, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns African descent,yes...African, no"
**
10. The Flying KIwi, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns s "73-78%" in that case which Alien species should be held accountable for the 28-22% if DNA??
What sort of broscience is this lol..."
-snip-
"broscience" = brother science (implying that it's science that is made up by a Black man or Black men from the streets.)
**
11. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass
Neanderthal genes."
-snip-
*"Ni&&a" is my way of writing this short form of the n word. That word is fully spelled out in that screen name.
For greater clarity, I seperated the comment from the screen name.
The name "Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass" links to a page for the blogger who also posted in this discussion under the name "The Flying KIwi". I haven't found any comments in that thread which are posted under the "Jabbari" name. Those comments may have been deleted.
Okuomose okuns and The Flying Kiwi (also posting under the name "Jabbari") exchange additional comments about the DNA of African Americans. The Flying Kiwi (Jabbari) wrote that Europeans have very little Neanderthal DNA and African Americans even less. Okuomose okuns wrote that African Americans have African and European DNA, implying that his Neanderthal comments were a slur on Europeans.
**
12. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a Who Likes Hugh Jass
African American music is global you cu&t*!"
-snip-
*This profanity is fully spelled out in this comment.
For greater clarity, I separated the comment from the screen name.
This comment appears to be in response to a comment from Jabbari which has been deleted.
**
13. okuomose okuns, May 2015
+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass
"They brought nothing but weaves, stripping and swearing..To me that's bad influence.."
-snip-
Given the context of this sub-thread, I believe "they" in this sentence refers to African Americans.
I also believe that the sentence "They bought nothing but [hair] weaves, stripping and swearing" is a quote from Jabbari's comment and the sentence "to me that's [a] bad influence" is okuomose okuns' reply to that quote.
**
14. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"Sam, I don't appreciate your attempt at trying to make it seem like I dnt know history. Anyway, you do have a point, as far as so much of culture in general having been originated in Africa. People were stolen from Africa, so obviously that included music, language, food, everything! The diaspora is massive and so is the influence. I'm not attempting to discredit anyone or anyplace however if you were smart enough, you'd know that influence isn't a one way street"
-snip-
I'm not sure which blogger is named "Sam". "Sam" might be the blogger who posted under the name The Flying KIwi (Jabbari) or the blogger who posted as okuomose okuns.
Part of the difficulty with reading YouTube discussion threads is that bloggers sometimes use more than one name in the same discussion. Sometimes this is due to YouTube's policy or practice of encouraging bloggers to use their "real names" instead of a screen name. When bloggers consent to this change, YouTube changes all of that blogger's previous comments to his or her "real name". However, that policy or practice doesn't appear to apply to this reply to "Sam". Nor does that policy/practice seem to apply to the comments that are attributed to The Flying Kiwi (Jabbari), some of which are missing from this discussion thread.
**
15. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"Jabbari, me speaking my opinion was never in hopes to change yours or anyone else's. However, I find that are you defending innocence and a certain level of respect, that I too would agree is importance, meanwhile you're cursing, calling names and down talking an entire race, that one way or another stems from Africa. I suggest you open your mind to different genres of music bc right now you sound silly speaking so boardly "
**
16. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"There will never be peace w/ all this finger point. And regardless of what's brought to the table, you decide what you eat."
**
17. DKhisa, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville please ignore the ignorant africans not all of us think like that about African Americans , dont forget there are over a billion people in africa and in that billion you'll always find divisive morons like dont let his race comments get under your skin either, just like you have ignorant african americans we got out ignorant disgusting rude africans too nothing personal and doesent in anyway represent the whole continent as a whole, most of us are welcoming and dont spew nonsense like neanderthal genes or whatever that clown is talking about"
**
18. DKhisa, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville and hopefully his disgusting comments dont shy you away from listening to more african music and learning more about your african ancestors [.] you are always welcome in Kenya and i always respect african Americans who have a yearning to learn about african culture but get pissed of when ignorant Africans attack them for no reason [.] [profanity deleted] people like him [.] remember dont feed the troll and only you have claim to your african heritage not him or anyone else and he cant take that away from you [.] its in your blood and is as much yours as it is his [.]
-snip-
I added the periods in brackets to enhance reader clarity.
**
19. BluesInMySoul, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns Who brought weaves ?? Are you kidding me. I live in a community of West Africans from many different countries 90% of them wear horrible weaves down to their butts and bleach themselves until their skin looks red, raw, and sickly. They look like the walking dead!"
**
20. BluesInMySoul, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville The most disgusting and despicable aspect of this thread is the amount of idiots trying to differentiate between AA and African while Europeans are destroying Africa and America. But dumbasses are so busy trying to describe why we are so different while the rest of the world depicts us ALL as savages. Stop the madness. FOOLS in the worst way."
**
21. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"@bluesinmysoul I'm so glad you spoke on what's real. It seems like every time I get a comment in response to my post, I'm fighting with someone just for them to understand very obvious things. You're so right. There's a war on all of us."
**
22. DKhisa, May 2015
+Saudi Baskerville
"it's not a war on yal(African Americans) black people do this to each other all the time if you look at many African Videos i am sure by now you will see theres no unity and youll always find nigerians attacking ghanaians vice versa its a black issue sadly black people in general can be each others worst enemy look what happened in South Africa"
**
23. DKhisa, May 2015
+BluesInMySoul
"blame in on Colomentality as Fela Kuti called it it's not Africans attacking AA it's black people attacking black people because even in Alot of these video threads theres lots of nationalism and hate towards other Africans by Africans from different countries .btw im African and i dont take sides"
**
24. DKhisa, May 2015
+BluesInMySoul
"and i agree here in Africa we are suffering from a bleaching self hate and weave problem in America it's hair and colorism ..black people need to wake up on both fronts"
**
25. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"You are correct. It's heartbreaking"
**
26. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"And very dangerous"
**
27. Mamie Quiah, June 2015
"U are right sister"
**
28. Anthonia Orji, July 2015
"+DKhisa I love all my pan Africans all over the disporá but sometimes I get frustrated with some. We need globally unity for all black people instead of focusing on all the things that divide us. I still love them though I just keep praying for them."
**
29. Saudi Baskerville, July 2015
"Def, I feel what you're saying. And for every subculture of our diaspora, even if we are united, we have to be sure that unity is positive"
-snip-
"Def"= definitely
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30. Anthonia Orji, July 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville
exactly"
**
31. U-n-I Survive, August 2015
"+The Flying KIwi You name all of the negative aspects of African American culture, and yes, there are negatives, but what about the positive aspects? What about Afro-Americans giving the world Blues, Jazz, Soul, R&B and Hip-Hop? What about Charles Drew (an African American) whose research on blood plasma led directly to the worlds first blood bank (many of which have been replicated in Africa). What about Jesse Russell, who's patents in digital cellular communication led to the world's first cell phone? What about our ancestors (MLK, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers) spilling their blood so that black people from all over the world could come to America, have access to a world class education, and provide a better life for their children? Oh, how quickly we forget..."
**
32. Saudi Baskerville, August 2015
"nice"
**
33. collins raji, September 2015
"Africans must units"
-snip-
"Units" is a typo for the word "unite".
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EDITOR'S COMMENT
In addition to the "Afrobeat" rhythm, the Nigerian influences in this video include the females in this video who wear traditional Nigerian clothing (including head wraps) and the males who wear traditional Nigerian clothing. Another example of this video's Nigerian influences is the custom of spraying money that the boy is shown throwing at 2:46 in this video.
Pancocojams has several post about the custom of spraying money. Visit http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2011/09/pinning-birthday-dollars.html for one of those post.
The American influence is partly shown in some of the clothing and in the straight hair styles (wigs or weaves) that the singer wears. The large afro wig is an example of the African American influence. The inclusion of scenes in this video where Tiwa Savage wears her hair in a large 'fro demonstrates the influence that African American womens' natural hair movement is having in Nigeria.
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This post provides a portion of the comments in a sub-set of the discussion thread for Tiwa Savage's (Nigerian) Afrobeat video "Eminado". Commenters in this sub-set wrote about the subject of the influence of African Americans on African cultures and the subject of African and African Diaspora unity.
Tiwa Savage's video is also embedded in this post.
The content of this post is provided for cultural, sociological, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Tiwa Savage for her musical creativity and thanks to all those who are featured in this video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post. Also, thanks to producer/s of this video, and the publisher of this video on YouTube.
****
SHOWCASE VIDEO: Tiwa Savage Ft. Don Jazzy - Eminado [Official Video]
officialtiwasavage,Published on Nov 4, 2013
Music Video by Tiwa Savage "Eminado"
© 2013 323 ENTERTAINMENT. MAVIN RECORDS
-snip-
This video begins with the explanation that "'eminado' means
goodluck charm."
****
SELECTED COMMENTS FROM VIDEO'S DISCUSSION
As of September 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM EST, Tiwa Savage's "Eminado" music video that is embedded above had 11,401,951 viewer hits and 2,667 total comments.
The thirty three selected comments that are presented in this pancocojams post are given in relative chronological order based on their posting date. It should be noted that these comments represent less than half of the sub-set of that particular discussion on the subject of the influence of African Americans on African cultures and the subject of African and African Diaspora unity. As of September 5, 2015 at 12:38 PM EST there were 63 replies to the first comment in that sub-thread. That comment is given as #1 below.
I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes only.
1. Saudi Baskerville, February 2015
"I can so clearly [see?, tell?] how African American culture influences African culture and vice versa. It's beautiful. We are one in the same. Love us all!!!"
-snip-
The words in parenthesis are my guesses about the word that is obviously missing in this sentence.
**
2.Xstolynne a, March 2015
"Sorry but Nigerian culture is different from AA CULTURE, PLEASE STOP THE COMPARISON, THIS SIMPLY CALLED AFROBEATS"
**
3. Saudi Baskerville, March 2015
"Never said it was the same. I see the difference, I hear the difference, I know they're different, however we are connected in ways more than one and it's evident."
**
4. Xstolynne a, March 2015
"Oh ok, because a lot of people try to discredit Nigerians and their music...Anyway One love."
**
5. Saudi Baskerville, March 2015
"Lol na I'd never do that."
**
6. The Flying KIwi, March 2015
"[profanity deleted] off lol. In African American culture, you don't value the "light skin" counterparts of your women Blackmen seem to worship.. Never mind the dark black women. They are strippers, bi&&hes* and hoes.
African American culture is an infection and burden that has encroached on the innocent African values. If you watch African music videos they typically involve the man adorning and exalting the woman. Not a trophy, a piece of flesh or sex object to show how much money they earn.
African American music these days is a disappointment and it pains me to see so more and more African artist trying to pick up this illness just to appeal to the masses...relegating and pulverising the good in black people just to make some money. Pathetic.
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out.
**
7. Christine Freeland, April 2015
"Lol, +Saudi Baskerville I get where you're coming from with your comment and I completely agree with you. It's truly an awesome thing to see how our arts and cultures influence each other and we're all beautiful people!"
**
8. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville African Americans have at least 73-85% African DNA. Well to me that makes them African.."
**
9. Dulce Pero Negrita, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns African descent,yes...African, no"
**
10. The Flying KIwi, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns s "73-78%" in that case which Alien species should be held accountable for the 28-22% if DNA??
What sort of broscience is this lol..."
-snip-
"broscience" = brother science (implying that it's science that is made up by a Black man or Black men from the streets.)
**
11. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass
Neanderthal genes."
-snip-
*"Ni&&a" is my way of writing this short form of the n word. That word is fully spelled out in that screen name.
For greater clarity, I seperated the comment from the screen name.
The name "Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass" links to a page for the blogger who also posted in this discussion under the name "The Flying KIwi". I haven't found any comments in that thread which are posted under the "Jabbari" name. Those comments may have been deleted.
Okuomose okuns and The Flying Kiwi (also posting under the name "Jabbari") exchange additional comments about the DNA of African Americans. The Flying Kiwi (Jabbari) wrote that Europeans have very little Neanderthal DNA and African Americans even less. Okuomose okuns wrote that African Americans have African and European DNA, implying that his Neanderthal comments were a slur on Europeans.
**
12. okuomose okuns, May 2015
"+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a Who Likes Hugh Jass
African American music is global you cu&t*!"
-snip-
*This profanity is fully spelled out in this comment.
For greater clarity, I separated the comment from the screen name.
This comment appears to be in response to a comment from Jabbari which has been deleted.
**
13. okuomose okuns, May 2015
+Jabbari A Real Ni&&a* Who Likes Hugh Jass
"They brought nothing but weaves, stripping and swearing..To me that's bad influence.."
-snip-
Given the context of this sub-thread, I believe "they" in this sentence refers to African Americans.
I also believe that the sentence "They bought nothing but [hair] weaves, stripping and swearing" is a quote from Jabbari's comment and the sentence "to me that's [a] bad influence" is okuomose okuns' reply to that quote.
**
14. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"Sam, I don't appreciate your attempt at trying to make it seem like I dnt know history. Anyway, you do have a point, as far as so much of culture in general having been originated in Africa. People were stolen from Africa, so obviously that included music, language, food, everything! The diaspora is massive and so is the influence. I'm not attempting to discredit anyone or anyplace however if you were smart enough, you'd know that influence isn't a one way street"
-snip-
I'm not sure which blogger is named "Sam". "Sam" might be the blogger who posted under the name The Flying KIwi (Jabbari) or the blogger who posted as okuomose okuns.
Part of the difficulty with reading YouTube discussion threads is that bloggers sometimes use more than one name in the same discussion. Sometimes this is due to YouTube's policy or practice of encouraging bloggers to use their "real names" instead of a screen name. When bloggers consent to this change, YouTube changes all of that blogger's previous comments to his or her "real name". However, that policy or practice doesn't appear to apply to this reply to "Sam". Nor does that policy/practice seem to apply to the comments that are attributed to The Flying Kiwi (Jabbari), some of which are missing from this discussion thread.
**
15. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"Jabbari, me speaking my opinion was never in hopes to change yours or anyone else's. However, I find that are you defending innocence and a certain level of respect, that I too would agree is importance, meanwhile you're cursing, calling names and down talking an entire race, that one way or another stems from Africa. I suggest you open your mind to different genres of music bc right now you sound silly speaking so boardly "
**
16. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"There will never be peace w/ all this finger point. And regardless of what's brought to the table, you decide what you eat."
**
17. DKhisa, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville please ignore the ignorant africans not all of us think like that about African Americans , dont forget there are over a billion people in africa and in that billion you'll always find divisive morons like dont let his race comments get under your skin either, just like you have ignorant african americans we got out ignorant disgusting rude africans too nothing personal and doesent in anyway represent the whole continent as a whole, most of us are welcoming and dont spew nonsense like neanderthal genes or whatever that clown is talking about"
**
18. DKhisa, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville and hopefully his disgusting comments dont shy you away from listening to more african music and learning more about your african ancestors [.] you are always welcome in Kenya and i always respect african Americans who have a yearning to learn about african culture but get pissed of when ignorant Africans attack them for no reason [.] [profanity deleted] people like him [.] remember dont feed the troll and only you have claim to your african heritage not him or anyone else and he cant take that away from you [.] its in your blood and is as much yours as it is his [.]
-snip-
I added the periods in brackets to enhance reader clarity.
**
19. BluesInMySoul, May 2015
"+okuomose okuns Who brought weaves ?? Are you kidding me. I live in a community of West Africans from many different countries 90% of them wear horrible weaves down to their butts and bleach themselves until their skin looks red, raw, and sickly. They look like the walking dead!"
**
20. BluesInMySoul, May 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville The most disgusting and despicable aspect of this thread is the amount of idiots trying to differentiate between AA and African while Europeans are destroying Africa and America. But dumbasses are so busy trying to describe why we are so different while the rest of the world depicts us ALL as savages. Stop the madness. FOOLS in the worst way."
**
21. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"@bluesinmysoul I'm so glad you spoke on what's real. It seems like every time I get a comment in response to my post, I'm fighting with someone just for them to understand very obvious things. You're so right. There's a war on all of us."
**
22. DKhisa, May 2015
+Saudi Baskerville
"it's not a war on yal(African Americans) black people do this to each other all the time if you look at many African Videos i am sure by now you will see theres no unity and youll always find nigerians attacking ghanaians vice versa its a black issue sadly black people in general can be each others worst enemy look what happened in South Africa"
**
23. DKhisa, May 2015
+BluesInMySoul
"blame in on Colomentality as Fela Kuti called it it's not Africans attacking AA it's black people attacking black people because even in Alot of these video threads theres lots of nationalism and hate towards other Africans by Africans from different countries .btw im African and i dont take sides"
**
24. DKhisa, May 2015
+BluesInMySoul
"and i agree here in Africa we are suffering from a bleaching self hate and weave problem in America it's hair and colorism ..black people need to wake up on both fronts"
**
25. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"You are correct. It's heartbreaking"
**
26. Saudi Baskerville, May 2015
"And very dangerous"
**
27. Mamie Quiah, June 2015
"U are right sister"
**
28. Anthonia Orji, July 2015
"+DKhisa I love all my pan Africans all over the disporá but sometimes I get frustrated with some. We need globally unity for all black people instead of focusing on all the things that divide us. I still love them though I just keep praying for them."
**
29. Saudi Baskerville, July 2015
"Def, I feel what you're saying. And for every subculture of our diaspora, even if we are united, we have to be sure that unity is positive"
-snip-
"Def"= definitely
**
30. Anthonia Orji, July 2015
"+Saudi Baskerville
exactly"
**
31. U-n-I Survive, August 2015
"+The Flying KIwi You name all of the negative aspects of African American culture, and yes, there are negatives, but what about the positive aspects? What about Afro-Americans giving the world Blues, Jazz, Soul, R&B and Hip-Hop? What about Charles Drew (an African American) whose research on blood plasma led directly to the worlds first blood bank (many of which have been replicated in Africa). What about Jesse Russell, who's patents in digital cellular communication led to the world's first cell phone? What about our ancestors (MLK, Malcolm X, Medgar Evers) spilling their blood so that black people from all over the world could come to America, have access to a world class education, and provide a better life for their children? Oh, how quickly we forget..."
**
32. Saudi Baskerville, August 2015
"nice"
**
33. collins raji, September 2015
"Africans must units"
-snip-
"Units" is a typo for the word "unite".
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EDITOR'S COMMENT
In addition to the "Afrobeat" rhythm, the Nigerian influences in this video include the females in this video who wear traditional Nigerian clothing (including head wraps) and the males who wear traditional Nigerian clothing. Another example of this video's Nigerian influences is the custom of spraying money that the boy is shown throwing at 2:46 in this video.
Pancocojams has several post about the custom of spraying money. Visit http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2011/09/pinning-birthday-dollars.html for one of those post.
The American influence is partly shown in some of the clothing and in the straight hair styles (wigs or weaves) that the singer wears. The large afro wig is an example of the African American influence. The inclusion of scenes in this video where Tiwa Savage wears her hair in a large 'fro demonstrates the influence that African American womens' natural hair movement is having in Nigeria.
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Friday, July 24, 2015
"Kata Mwanangu Kata" (Swahili music dance video with English translation)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post showcases a music video of the Swahili dance song "Kata Mwanangu Kata" ("Wine, Child, Wine"). Selected comments from this video's discussion thread are included in this post. One topic of debate in this discussion thread is whether this song originally comes from Kenya or Tanzania. One of the comments from that discussion thread provides an English translation for this song.
The content of this post is provided for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the composer and performers of this song. Thanks also to all those who are featured in these videos and all those who are quoted in this post. And thanks to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: KATA MWANANGU KATA
Bamariz, Uploaded on Aug 21, 2008
mombasa hoyeeee
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SELECTED COMMENTS
These comments are given in chronological order with the oldest comments presented first, except for comment responses.
rakes64, 2008
"Kistobe juu!! Aa yee yah! Mzee hi kitu ni moto moto ata kama ina toya mshuzi mara nyingineye. Shukran. Thank yu genterman and e radis and look you soon and look matako shake shake lika a milkshake'."
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13triki, 2008
"mama mia, someone take me to Africa pleaseeeeeeeee"
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Abu Ashraf, 2010
in reply to msaniiTZ
"@msaniiTZ his is not the version by Kilimanjaro Band. This is the verson that was done in the 70s by Mombasa Roots based in Mombasa Kenya. Check Mombasa Roots-Kata here on You Tube."
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Balo Mega, 2011
"I think this is Msanja or Ngoma ya Ndani which is from coastal region of Tanzania, I was Never allowed to watch when i was growing, 40 years later its on the You Tube kids can watch"
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2011
موسى الشرقاوي
"Beautiful art and beautiful rhythm of Tanzania, a country rich in heritage and civilization, Moses, Saudi Arabia"
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oigla, 2011
in reply to موسى الشرقاوي
"@funnykrkrkr this is Real kenyan stuff, i forgive you for the confusion if you are not from east africa you wouldn't know it. i am proud of our culture as east africans but this is distinct and strictly from mombasa (and the coastal region of kenya)."
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brayo144, 2011
"LOL! This argument never dies! Cha maana sio kule wimbo ulipotoka. Sote tuskize na tuburudike! Kenya, Bongo, Dar, Mombasa e.t.c sote ni waafrika! So enough arguments! VIVA EAC!!"
-snip-
Google translate:
LOL! This argument never dies! Not in the sense of the song came from. All tuskize and tuburudike! Kenya, Bongo, Dar, Mombasa etc are all blacks! So enough arguments! VIVA EAC[H] !!
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Masera , 2012
"I Love mama land Africa. Nice Kenyan Chakacha"
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bibi, 2012
"iv been singing this song since i was a baby, some game we used to play and im kenyan! iv always known it to be kenyan! but oh well, we'r all east africans!"
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Mohamed Abdi, 2012
"This is swahili song. Kenya or Tanzania"
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Titus Temwo, 2012
"It's funny...how pple argue about whether the song is tanzanian or Kenyan...I personally don't know its origin but it is from East African and as a Kenyan I am glad I understand it...."
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Manyoni Hungwe, 2012
"This sounds lyk Zimbabwean Laungage. "Mwanangu" means my child in Zimbabwe."
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ThiGibbs Jakatiga, 2013
in reply to Manyoni Hungwe
"Means the same thing in Swahili."
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Kemmi Kamugisha , 2014
in reply to bamariz [video publisher]
"this song is not from Mombasa bwana.... this is Kilimanjaro Band"
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Kemmi Kamugisha, 2014
"rephrase: it's originally from the Swahili coast,,,which extends all the way from Malawi to Somalia, it was there before colonists put all these stupid country "barriers", so technically it belongs to the Swahili/coastal people and not a specific country....it just happens that the Kilimanjaro band recorded it.. but doesn't mean that Tanzania owns the song."
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Mbwa Koko, 2014
in reply to Manyoni Hungwe
"Shona is a Bantu language, hence the similarities with Kiswahili. I understand many Shona words since part of my family is Shona. I don't even have to learn the language."
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Eshe4evahMore, 2014
"The song is telling a woman to wine her waist. The word kata, pronounced (cah-tah) means wine in english, this song is an East African classic I don’t remember listening to it until very recently but I’ve always known the words.
Lyrics
Wine, wine, wine child whine (x2)
Wine - don’t be scared
Wine – your very own
You didn’t borrow it
Today, let it all go (not the exact translation but it’s basically what he’s means)
Today, show it off
Wine, wine, wine
Wine, wine, wine
(x2)"
-snip-
In the context of this song, "wine" is a dance move that was popularized in the Caribbean in which the dancers gyrate their waist to the beat of the music.
From Google Translate: "kata" = cut, slice, chop
Here's a comment from a YouTube discussion thread for a sound file of another version of this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzaiJYvrsJE
Swahili Song - Kata Kata
Beets from Kenya, from the Kiswahili 'Chaka Cha' Album.
tahia YAHA, 2014
in response to Nely Paz
"Nely u want to knw the meaning or ? if its the meaning you want then here it goes Kata means to cut and it also means to dance like belly dancing so the singer saying that dance dance sow your moves don't be afraid to show us what you got dance dance lols I hope this helps"
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This post showcases a music video of the Swahili dance song "Kata Mwanangu Kata" ("Wine, Child, Wine"). Selected comments from this video's discussion thread are included in this post. One topic of debate in this discussion thread is whether this song originally comes from Kenya or Tanzania. One of the comments from that discussion thread provides an English translation for this song.
The content of this post is provided for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the composer and performers of this song. Thanks also to all those who are featured in these videos and all those who are quoted in this post. And thanks to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: KATA MWANANGU KATA
Bamariz, Uploaded on Aug 21, 2008
mombasa hoyeeee
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SELECTED COMMENTS
These comments are given in chronological order with the oldest comments presented first, except for comment responses.
rakes64, 2008
"Kistobe juu!! Aa yee yah! Mzee hi kitu ni moto moto ata kama ina toya mshuzi mara nyingineye. Shukran. Thank yu genterman and e radis and look you soon and look matako shake shake lika a milkshake'."
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13triki, 2008
"mama mia, someone take me to Africa pleaseeeeeeeee"
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Abu Ashraf, 2010
in reply to msaniiTZ
"@msaniiTZ his is not the version by Kilimanjaro Band. This is the verson that was done in the 70s by Mombasa Roots based in Mombasa Kenya. Check Mombasa Roots-Kata here on You Tube."
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Balo Mega, 2011
"I think this is Msanja or Ngoma ya Ndani which is from coastal region of Tanzania, I was Never allowed to watch when i was growing, 40 years later its on the You Tube kids can watch"
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2011
موسى الشرقاوي
"Beautiful art and beautiful rhythm of Tanzania, a country rich in heritage and civilization, Moses, Saudi Arabia"
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oigla, 2011
in reply to موسى الشرقاوي
"@funnykrkrkr this is Real kenyan stuff, i forgive you for the confusion if you are not from east africa you wouldn't know it. i am proud of our culture as east africans but this is distinct and strictly from mombasa (and the coastal region of kenya)."
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brayo144, 2011
"LOL! This argument never dies! Cha maana sio kule wimbo ulipotoka. Sote tuskize na tuburudike! Kenya, Bongo, Dar, Mombasa e.t.c sote ni waafrika! So enough arguments! VIVA EAC!!"
-snip-
Google translate:
LOL! This argument never dies! Not in the sense of the song came from. All tuskize and tuburudike! Kenya, Bongo, Dar, Mombasa etc are all blacks! So enough arguments! VIVA EAC[H] !!
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Masera , 2012
"I Love mama land Africa. Nice Kenyan Chakacha"
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bibi, 2012
"iv been singing this song since i was a baby, some game we used to play and im kenyan! iv always known it to be kenyan! but oh well, we'r all east africans!"
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Mohamed Abdi, 2012
"This is swahili song. Kenya or Tanzania"
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Titus Temwo, 2012
"It's funny...how pple argue about whether the song is tanzanian or Kenyan...I personally don't know its origin but it is from East African and as a Kenyan I am glad I understand it...."
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Manyoni Hungwe, 2012
"This sounds lyk Zimbabwean Laungage. "Mwanangu" means my child in Zimbabwe."
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ThiGibbs Jakatiga, 2013
in reply to Manyoni Hungwe
"Means the same thing in Swahili."
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Kemmi Kamugisha , 2014
in reply to bamariz [video publisher]
"this song is not from Mombasa bwana.... this is Kilimanjaro Band"
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Kemmi Kamugisha, 2014
"rephrase: it's originally from the Swahili coast,,,which extends all the way from Malawi to Somalia, it was there before colonists put all these stupid country "barriers", so technically it belongs to the Swahili/coastal people and not a specific country....it just happens that the Kilimanjaro band recorded it.. but doesn't mean that Tanzania owns the song."
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Mbwa Koko, 2014
in reply to Manyoni Hungwe
"Shona is a Bantu language, hence the similarities with Kiswahili. I understand many Shona words since part of my family is Shona. I don't even have to learn the language."
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Eshe4evahMore, 2014
"The song is telling a woman to wine her waist. The word kata, pronounced (cah-tah) means wine in english, this song is an East African classic I don’t remember listening to it until very recently but I’ve always known the words.
Lyrics
Wine, wine, wine child whine (x2)
Wine - don’t be scared
Wine – your very own
You didn’t borrow it
Today, let it all go (not the exact translation but it’s basically what he’s means)
Today, show it off
Wine, wine, wine
Wine, wine, wine
(x2)"
-snip-
In the context of this song, "wine" is a dance move that was popularized in the Caribbean in which the dancers gyrate their waist to the beat of the music.
From Google Translate: "kata" = cut, slice, chop
Here's a comment from a YouTube discussion thread for a sound file of another version of this song:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VzaiJYvrsJE
Swahili Song - Kata Kata
Beets from Kenya, from the Kiswahili 'Chaka Cha' Album.
tahia YAHA, 2014
in response to Nely Paz
"Nely u want to knw the meaning or ? if its the meaning you want then here it goes Kata means to cut and it also means to dance like belly dancing so the singer saying that dance dance sow your moves don't be afraid to show us what you got dance dance lols I hope this helps"
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Friday, July 10, 2015
"When Will The English Version Come Out" Comments & Their Responses In YouTube Hip-Hop Comment Threads
Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part I of a two part* series on racist comments in YouTube Hip-Hop videos comment threads. Part I focuses on the internet meme "When will the English version come out?". This post includes information about that meme, my editorial comment, and recent examples of that meme from the discussion threads of three Hip-Hop (or Hip-Hop/Pop) videos: Soulja Boy - "Crank That Soulja Boy", Roscoe Dash - "All The Way Turnt Up ft. Soulja Boy", and Silento - "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae).
Part II focuses on the "Not a single white person [in Hip Hop videos]. That's racism" comments that I found in the discussion threads of certain Hip Hop videos.
*I had initially planned to publish a third post in this series on Tube Hip-Hop video's comment thread about rappers wearing baggy clothes. However, I've decided to focus on the subject of baggy clothes in general without an emphasis on racist comments about that clothing style. A link to that projected pancocojams post will be included in a Related Links section on the posts in this series.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric and cultural documentation.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE "WHEN DOES THE ENGLISH VERSION COME OUT?" MEME
From http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/when-does-the-english-version-come-out "When does the English version come out?" by Niseru, 2012.
“When does the English version come out?” Originally a question for video games/cartoons/anime/songs that have not yet been dubbed in English, is a trend of YouTube comments used to humorously indicate that (usually a singers singing/rappers rapping) although in English/Ebonics english, is hard to understand, usually do to a strong country accent, loud yelling or screaming, heavy use of auto-tune, or a mix of those. It seems to target the voice of the singer/rapper more than the way they speak.
The question/phrase can be asked or said in various ways, such as
“When does this come out in English?”
“Waiting for the English version”
“Cant wait for the English version to come out”
“Where can I find the English version?”
etc
But with “When does the English version come out?” being the most common."
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EDITORIAL COMMENT
It should come as no surprise to people who read YouTube video comment threads that Black music video's discussion threads usually includes lots of racist comments. But, perhaps because I don't often watch Hip-Hop videos, and therefore don't read those discussion threads, it wasn't until three days ago that I became aware of the proliferation of "When does the English language version come out" and- to a lesser extent- the repeated number of "Not a single white person[in Hip Hop videos]. That's racism" comments in those videos.
Actually, the videos that I visited -and whose comment threads I read- are examples of Hip-Hop Pop music. That sub-set of Hip-Hop is also known as "club music" (with "club" meaning "nightclub"), "dance music", "party music", "crunk music", and the more recent category label "turn up" music. "Turn up" in this context mostly means "music that gets you hyped (pumped up, energized). "Turn up" music is music that you dance to. Note that the term "turn up" or "turnt up" has other (earlier?) meanings. Read visitor submitted enties for "turnt up" in http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Turnt+Up [Warning: Some of these entries include profanity.] Also, read this 2014 article about the term "turn up"/"turnt up": http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/dictionary/what-turns-up-when-you-look-into-turn-up/
After reading all of the comments that were posted to date [July 9, 2015) on the three YouTube video discussion threads which I identified above, I've concluded that a considerable number of those comments are either covertly or overtly racist against Black people. I've also concluded that many of these racist comments are posted by trolls. A 2002 urban dictionary definition of "trolls" is "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument" (by Alien Entity September 22, 2002). Trolls also post deliberately provocative comments "just for fun". The deep seated virulent racism that still exists in the United States and elsewhere are exemplified by these discussion threads direct (openly/ overtly) racist comments, and the discussion threads covertly racist comments that are couched in seemingly innocent, concerned language which sometimes comes across as "throwing shade"*. Just because something is written as a joke doesn't mean it is funny, and doesn't mean it's not racist.
These types of questions or statements on YouTube discussion threads are examples of microaggressions. Here's a definition of microaggression from https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/microaggressions-in-everyday-life/201011/microaggressions-more-just-race
"Microaggressions are the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership. In many cases, these hidden messages may invalidate the group identity or experiential reality of target persons, demean them on a personal or group level, communicate they are lesser human beings, suggest they do not belong with the majority group, threaten and intimidate, or relegate them to inferior status and treatment."
-end of quote-
People who post such comments on Hip-Hop music discussion threads came to those social internet spaces where Black people and non-Black people who are interested in and fans of that music congregate to relax, enjoy that music, and discuss that music. That social experience is diminished by openly racist remarks or remarks that are couched in fake concern or questions.
Bloggers who re-post "When will the English version come out" or "Not a single white person.[in Hip Hop videos] That's racism." comments or versions of those comments aren't asking those questions or posting those comments to receive serious responses. At the very least, they may be unaware of the racism that fuels those questions or comments. However, that doesn't make those questions or comments less racist.
It's important to note that few of those commenters identify themselves by race, although I believe that people participating in those exchanges assumed that the bloggers who were writing (or copying) those memes were White. That said, it's important to note that as demonstrated below, some of the commenters who speak out against those types of comments/questions identify themselves as White. But, at the very least, repeatedly reading such questions and comments on YouTube discussion threads can be annoying and disgusting. Black participants and/or readers of these discussions and participants of other races could also feel disdainful, bitter, angry, and prejudiced towards those people writing such direct and indirect racist comments/ questions. Black people and others could also feel sadness that racism is quite strong, inspite of pronouncements that we are now are in a post-racial society.
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THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST AND THE WAY THESE EXAMPLES ARE ORGANIZED
The comments that are included in this post are examples of those memes. This is not intended to be a comprehensive listing of all the examples in those discussion threads of those memes or that subject matter.
I'm publishing the selected examples of those comments and of some responses to those comments for cultural and folkloric documentation. In Part I and Part II of this series I've provided links to the videos from which these discussion threads come.
*My definition of "throwing shade" from http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/03/what-reading-someone-throwing-shade-no.html What "Reading Someone", "Throwing Shade", & "No Tea No Shade" Mean.
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COMMENTS FROM THREE YOUTUBE VIDEO DISCUSSION THREADS
WARNING: These discussion threads contain racist, homophobic, sexually explicit content, and profanity. Examples with that content aren't included below, with the exception of a limited number of comments that have the curse word/s deleted or not fully spelled out. Also, in this post what is commonly known as the n word is given in place of that fully spelled out racial referent.
I. Soulja Boy Tell'em - Crank That (Soulja Boy)
SouljaBoyTellemVEVO, Uploaded on Nov 22, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIYGkROII
1. Matt Mayuiers, 2014
"Sounds great, I can't wait for the English version to come out!!!"
-snip-
A number of comments with this same wording are found in this discussion thread posted by bloggers with other names than the name given above.
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2. PepeJuventino, 2014
"I remeber when I first heard this I thought it was Japanese"
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3. Grrizly, 2014
"Can someone tell me in what language is this song?"
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4. Fantasy, 2013
"we dont need english when we got this"
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5. Nobody, 2013
"Still waiting for the English version to come out..."
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6. Oliver Proctor, 2013
"Sadly Soulja Boy has denied his loyal fans an english translation to the song :("
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7. JJoh4040, 2013
in reply to Oliver Proctor
"its written in ebonics"
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8. barzy qasim, 2015
"Is this even entirely English?"
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9. afdgafdghjk, 2015
"[Profanity deleted] these [n word]s cannot speak english"
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What is commonly known as “the n word” was fully spelled out in this comment.
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10. thepretenda, 2015
"When is there going to be a version in English?"
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11. Johnathon Gaudet, 2015
"There's always that one guy^^^^^^^"
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12. Dom1nateRK, 2015
"It's not that hard to understand what he's saying..."
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13. William Reid, 2015
"It's a joke."
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14. DigitalRealm, 2015
"sigh"
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15. Hi I'm Lightning, 2015
"+thepretenda its english dummy"
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16. DaQuan J, 2015
"You don't get the joke. Whites have a hard time understanding Ebonics."
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17. king keffel, 2015
"+DaQuan J im white I understand it perfectly"
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18. Maya Moe, 2015
"Lol I'm not sure probably never going to happen, he needs to learn the language first."
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19. JeffA- 22, 2015
"This is clear English 😒"
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20. kendall Campbell, 2015
"+JeffA- 22 they just bein white"
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21. krm1263 mc, 2015
"For [profanity deleted] sake I'm white and I understand everything that's they're saying it's not hard to understand anyone or even get a understanding of what they're saying"
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22. Ourworld Tutorials, 2015
"When am I going to stop seeing this comment on almost every music video?"
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22. Oye S., 2015
"+thepretenda The same time these people realize what a joke is, most likely..."
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23. DarkLord10951, 2015
"Your watching it"
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24. Adrianne Johnson, 2015
"This is it"
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25. Anderson Albritton, 2015
"Anyone in these comments get a sarcastic joke??I do.Hah.Funny.I grinned."
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26. Doodle Bob, 2015
"When you get hearing aids."
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27. PaiNExoTiC, 2015
"+thepretenda Be original."
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28. Shaan Tahir, 2015
"Yall are racist. Its not because hes white. Its because hes thepretenda. Its in the name idiotss:
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29. JeffA- 22, 2015
"When's there gonna be a english version of your comment!!!"
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30. Pink Sunglasses, 2015
"+JeffA- 22 You mean it isn't African?
My whole life was a lie."
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31. Neveah Worden, 2015
"I love this songs and
I don't care about the English
Version ..............."
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32. ShadowCat Destroyer, 2015
"ummm...this an american song right?"
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33. Rab John C. Blay
""Superman" and "you" are the only words that i can understand"
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II. Roscoe Dash - "All The Way Turnt Up ft. Soulja Boy Tell'em"
Roscoe DashVevo, Uploaded on Feb 23, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMwi8vFXUpo
1. Taigacan, 2013
"can't wait till the english version comes out =D"
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2. Bianca Brown, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"it is already out u just dont understand it"
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3. Taigacan, 2013
"can't wait till the english version comes out"
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4. prince brown, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"and im still waiting for that gay ass joke to be over"
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5. ZizioGardo, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"Why do you keep posting the same comment over and over again?
It was funny the first time, but now it's just annoying."
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6. Taigacan, 2013
"it’s a joke obv"
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7. Ryne, 2013
"When's the English version coming out?"
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8. hellhound one, 2014
"Only the best get trolled by the worst. Keep hatin we'll keep makin MONEY!!"
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9. Taigacan, 2014
"waiting for the english version"
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10. dddwbtw, 2014
"Don't understand a word he say'n"
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kanagye, 2015
11. "What language is this in? Doesnt appear to be english."
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12. letthebutthurtbegin, 2015
"+kanagye You're a bigger buzz kill than buzz killington"
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13. Mastero, 2015
"+kanagye shut up"
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14. Musashi Kaneko, 2015
Go back to country music on a half broken radio [socially inappropriate homosexual referent deleted]
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III. Silentó - "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) (Official)"
SilentoVEVO Published on Jun 25, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc
[All of these comments are from 2015.]
1. Instagray
"Sounds great. Can't wait until the English version is out"
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2. Shai Mitchell
"It is in English lol"
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3. arman noor
"I don't understand the joke"
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4. Edward Nelson (Eddie)
"+arman noor The joke is that the language used in the song is so shi&&y,* that it's not understandable because it's so stupid."
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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5. sarayelle98 soso
"+arman noor Bc these are not lyrics he is just saying words and putting them 2gether"
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6. David Santiago
"This song doesn't make any sense! These people need English Classes"
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7. Claire Martin
"Why is this getting so much hate? Sheesh"
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8. Cirndie Joseph
"Why is the comment section a freaking war zone? Racists everywhere.... rude people hating 😰😰 and others bashing people's opinions. Can't we all just be happy like the people in this video?"
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9. milknjuice
"for all those dissing this song for its lyrics, you guys are being overly critical. This song is suppose to be fun. I know little kids who love this song and I'm okay with that. It's fun, it's clean, and catchy …. and SMDH on the racist comments in here."
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10. classystegosuarus
"Have you ever tried taking a moment to realize that language evolves and new words are formed to name things such as dance moves? Similar to how kids sometimes struggle when reading Shakespeare because it uses the lingo and slang from that period. Language progresses with each generation, it actually fascinating to see how it changes"
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11. Michael Emerson-Quaynor
"To all you haters,this is a great song. Am sorry if you don't like it but I have a suggestion. DON'T WATCH WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE."
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UPDATE: July 10, 2015
Here are selected comments that are part of an interesting exchange between bloggers on another Hip-Hop/Pop video's discussion thread. This exchange started with a blogger posting an overtly racist comment
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewufRwrayTI "GS Boyz - Stanky Legg
All of these comments are from 2015:
Paran01ac
"So that's what my cotton field workers went to do."
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Keliyah Clark
"Bruh if you're trying to be funny go back to the 1800s if was funny then we have something new thats funny not even close to this "joke". White people act like their better but there are some whites trying to be black. Black people know how to think. We know how to dance. The only thing whites know about is Starbucks."
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Justin H
Your making white people amd southern people look bad
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Dourden11
"+Keliyah Clark Why the [profnity deleted] are you condemning the whole white race based off one person? Ignorant [profanity deleted]."
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Eric Johnston
"+Keliyah Clark just because he's being racist and immature doesn't mean you have to be like. MLK didn't say blacks are better than whites he said all men are equal. Be the bigger person, what you're saying just encourages them"
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This concludes Part I of this series.
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This is Part I of a two part* series on racist comments in YouTube Hip-Hop videos comment threads. Part I focuses on the internet meme "When will the English version come out?". This post includes information about that meme, my editorial comment, and recent examples of that meme from the discussion threads of three Hip-Hop (or Hip-Hop/Pop) videos: Soulja Boy - "Crank That Soulja Boy", Roscoe Dash - "All The Way Turnt Up ft. Soulja Boy", and Silento - "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae).
Part II focuses on the "Not a single white person [in Hip Hop videos]. That's racism" comments that I found in the discussion threads of certain Hip Hop videos.
*I had initially planned to publish a third post in this series on Tube Hip-Hop video's comment thread about rappers wearing baggy clothes. However, I've decided to focus on the subject of baggy clothes in general without an emphasis on racist comments about that clothing style. A link to that projected pancocojams post will be included in a Related Links section on the posts in this series.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric and cultural documentation.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE "WHEN DOES THE ENGLISH VERSION COME OUT?" MEME
From http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/when-does-the-english-version-come-out "When does the English version come out?" by Niseru, 2012.
“When does the English version come out?” Originally a question for video games/cartoons/anime/songs that have not yet been dubbed in English, is a trend of YouTube comments used to humorously indicate that (usually a singers singing/rappers rapping) although in English/Ebonics english, is hard to understand, usually do to a strong country accent, loud yelling or screaming, heavy use of auto-tune, or a mix of those. It seems to target the voice of the singer/rapper more than the way they speak.
The question/phrase can be asked or said in various ways, such as
“When does this come out in English?”
“Waiting for the English version”
“Cant wait for the English version to come out”
“Where can I find the English version?”
etc
But with “When does the English version come out?” being the most common."
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EDITORIAL COMMENT
It should come as no surprise to people who read YouTube video comment threads that Black music video's discussion threads usually includes lots of racist comments. But, perhaps because I don't often watch Hip-Hop videos, and therefore don't read those discussion threads, it wasn't until three days ago that I became aware of the proliferation of "When does the English language version come out" and- to a lesser extent- the repeated number of "Not a single white person[in Hip Hop videos]. That's racism" comments in those videos.
Actually, the videos that I visited -and whose comment threads I read- are examples of Hip-Hop Pop music. That sub-set of Hip-Hop is also known as "club music" (with "club" meaning "nightclub"), "dance music", "party music", "crunk music", and the more recent category label "turn up" music. "Turn up" in this context mostly means "music that gets you hyped (pumped up, energized). "Turn up" music is music that you dance to. Note that the term "turn up" or "turnt up" has other (earlier?) meanings. Read visitor submitted enties for "turnt up" in http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Turnt+Up [Warning: Some of these entries include profanity.] Also, read this 2014 article about the term "turn up"/"turnt up": http://www.visualthesaurus.com/cm/dictionary/what-turns-up-when-you-look-into-turn-up/
After reading all of the comments that were posted to date [July 9, 2015) on the three YouTube video discussion threads which I identified above, I've concluded that a considerable number of those comments are either covertly or overtly racist against Black people. I've also concluded that many of these racist comments are posted by trolls. A 2002 urban dictionary definition of "trolls" is "One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a newsgroup or message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument" (by Alien Entity September 22, 2002). Trolls also post deliberately provocative comments "just for fun". The deep seated virulent racism that still exists in the United States and elsewhere are exemplified by these discussion threads direct (openly/ overtly) racist comments, and the discussion threads covertly racist comments that are couched in seemingly innocent, concerned language which sometimes comes across as "throwing shade"*. Just because something is written as a joke doesn't mean it is funny, and doesn't mean it's not racist.
These types of questions or statements on YouTube discussion threads are examples of microaggressions. Here's a definition of microaggression from https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/microaggressions-in-everyday-life/201011/microaggressions-more-just-race
"Microaggressions are the everyday verbal, nonverbal, and environmental slights, snubs, or insults, whether intentional or unintentional, which communicate hostile, derogatory, or negative messages to target persons based solely upon their marginalized group membership. In many cases, these hidden messages may invalidate the group identity or experiential reality of target persons, demean them on a personal or group level, communicate they are lesser human beings, suggest they do not belong with the majority group, threaten and intimidate, or relegate them to inferior status and treatment."
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People who post such comments on Hip-Hop music discussion threads came to those social internet spaces where Black people and non-Black people who are interested in and fans of that music congregate to relax, enjoy that music, and discuss that music. That social experience is diminished by openly racist remarks or remarks that are couched in fake concern or questions.
Bloggers who re-post "When will the English version come out" or "Not a single white person.[in Hip Hop videos] That's racism." comments or versions of those comments aren't asking those questions or posting those comments to receive serious responses. At the very least, they may be unaware of the racism that fuels those questions or comments. However, that doesn't make those questions or comments less racist.
It's important to note that few of those commenters identify themselves by race, although I believe that people participating in those exchanges assumed that the bloggers who were writing (or copying) those memes were White. That said, it's important to note that as demonstrated below, some of the commenters who speak out against those types of comments/questions identify themselves as White. But, at the very least, repeatedly reading such questions and comments on YouTube discussion threads can be annoying and disgusting. Black participants and/or readers of these discussions and participants of other races could also feel disdainful, bitter, angry, and prejudiced towards those people writing such direct and indirect racist comments/ questions. Black people and others could also feel sadness that racism is quite strong, inspite of pronouncements that we are now are in a post-racial society.
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THE PURPOSE OF THIS POST AND THE WAY THESE EXAMPLES ARE ORGANIZED
The comments that are included in this post are examples of those memes. This is not intended to be a comprehensive listing of all the examples in those discussion threads of those memes or that subject matter.
I'm publishing the selected examples of those comments and of some responses to those comments for cultural and folkloric documentation. In Part I and Part II of this series I've provided links to the videos from which these discussion threads come.
*My definition of "throwing shade" from http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/03/what-reading-someone-throwing-shade-no.html What "Reading Someone", "Throwing Shade", & "No Tea No Shade" Mean.
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COMMENTS FROM THREE YOUTUBE VIDEO DISCUSSION THREADS
WARNING: These discussion threads contain racist, homophobic, sexually explicit content, and profanity. Examples with that content aren't included below, with the exception of a limited number of comments that have the curse word/s deleted or not fully spelled out. Also, in this post what is commonly known as the n word is given in place of that fully spelled out racial referent.
I. Soulja Boy Tell'em - Crank That (Soulja Boy)
SouljaBoyTellemVEVO, Uploaded on Nov 22, 2009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UFIYGkROII
1. Matt Mayuiers, 2014
"Sounds great, I can't wait for the English version to come out!!!"
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A number of comments with this same wording are found in this discussion thread posted by bloggers with other names than the name given above.
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2. PepeJuventino, 2014
"I remeber when I first heard this I thought it was Japanese"
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3. Grrizly, 2014
"Can someone tell me in what language is this song?"
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4. Fantasy, 2013
"we dont need english when we got this"
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5. Nobody, 2013
"Still waiting for the English version to come out..."
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6. Oliver Proctor, 2013
"Sadly Soulja Boy has denied his loyal fans an english translation to the song :("
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7. JJoh4040, 2013
in reply to Oliver Proctor
"its written in ebonics"
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8. barzy qasim, 2015
"Is this even entirely English?"
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9. afdgafdghjk, 2015
"[Profanity deleted] these [n word]s cannot speak english"
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What is commonly known as “the n word” was fully spelled out in this comment.
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10. thepretenda, 2015
"When is there going to be a version in English?"
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11. Johnathon Gaudet, 2015
"There's always that one guy^^^^^^^"
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12. Dom1nateRK, 2015
"It's not that hard to understand what he's saying..."
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13. William Reid, 2015
"It's a joke."
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14. DigitalRealm, 2015
"sigh"
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15. Hi I'm Lightning, 2015
"+thepretenda its english dummy"
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16. DaQuan J, 2015
"You don't get the joke. Whites have a hard time understanding Ebonics."
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17. king keffel, 2015
"+DaQuan J im white I understand it perfectly"
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18. Maya Moe, 2015
"Lol I'm not sure probably never going to happen, he needs to learn the language first."
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19. JeffA- 22, 2015
"This is clear English 😒"
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20. kendall Campbell, 2015
"+JeffA- 22 they just bein white"
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21. krm1263 mc, 2015
"For [profanity deleted] sake I'm white and I understand everything that's they're saying it's not hard to understand anyone or even get a understanding of what they're saying"
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22. Ourworld Tutorials, 2015
"When am I going to stop seeing this comment on almost every music video?"
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22. Oye S., 2015
"+thepretenda The same time these people realize what a joke is, most likely..."
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23. DarkLord10951, 2015
"Your watching it"
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24. Adrianne Johnson, 2015
"This is it"
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25. Anderson Albritton, 2015
"Anyone in these comments get a sarcastic joke??I do.Hah.Funny.I grinned."
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26. Doodle Bob, 2015
"When you get hearing aids."
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27. PaiNExoTiC, 2015
"+thepretenda Be original."
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28. Shaan Tahir, 2015
"Yall are racist. Its not because hes white. Its because hes thepretenda. Its in the name idiotss:
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29. JeffA- 22, 2015
"When's there gonna be a english version of your comment!!!"
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30. Pink Sunglasses, 2015
"+JeffA- 22 You mean it isn't African?
My whole life was a lie."
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31. Neveah Worden, 2015
"I love this songs and
I don't care about the English
Version ..............."
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32. ShadowCat Destroyer, 2015
"ummm...this an american song right?"
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33. Rab John C. Blay
""Superman" and "you" are the only words that i can understand"
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II. Roscoe Dash - "All The Way Turnt Up ft. Soulja Boy Tell'em"
Roscoe DashVevo, Uploaded on Feb 23, 2010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMwi8vFXUpo
1. Taigacan, 2013
"can't wait till the english version comes out =D"
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2. Bianca Brown, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"it is already out u just dont understand it"
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3. Taigacan, 2013
"can't wait till the english version comes out"
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4. prince brown, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"and im still waiting for that gay ass joke to be over"
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5. ZizioGardo, 2013
in reply to Taigacan
"Why do you keep posting the same comment over and over again?
It was funny the first time, but now it's just annoying."
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6. Taigacan, 2013
"it’s a joke obv"
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7. Ryne, 2013
"When's the English version coming out?"
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8. hellhound one, 2014
"Only the best get trolled by the worst. Keep hatin we'll keep makin MONEY!!"
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9. Taigacan, 2014
"waiting for the english version"
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10. dddwbtw, 2014
"Don't understand a word he say'n"
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kanagye, 2015
11. "What language is this in? Doesnt appear to be english."
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12. letthebutthurtbegin, 2015
"+kanagye You're a bigger buzz kill than buzz killington"
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13. Mastero, 2015
"+kanagye shut up"
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14. Musashi Kaneko, 2015
Go back to country music on a half broken radio [socially inappropriate homosexual referent deleted]
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III. Silentó - "Watch Me (Whip/Nae Nae) (Official)"
SilentoVEVO Published on Jun 25, 2015
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjW8wmF5VWc
[All of these comments are from 2015.]
1. Instagray
"Sounds great. Can't wait until the English version is out"
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2. Shai Mitchell
"It is in English lol"
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3. arman noor
"I don't understand the joke"
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4. Edward Nelson (Eddie)
"+arman noor The joke is that the language used in the song is so shi&&y,* that it's not understandable because it's so stupid."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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5. sarayelle98 soso
"+arman noor Bc these are not lyrics he is just saying words and putting them 2gether"
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6. David Santiago
"This song doesn't make any sense! These people need English Classes"
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7. Claire Martin
"Why is this getting so much hate? Sheesh"
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8. Cirndie Joseph
"Why is the comment section a freaking war zone? Racists everywhere.... rude people hating 😰😰 and others bashing people's opinions. Can't we all just be happy like the people in this video?"
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9. milknjuice
"for all those dissing this song for its lyrics, you guys are being overly critical. This song is suppose to be fun. I know little kids who love this song and I'm okay with that. It's fun, it's clean, and catchy …. and SMDH on the racist comments in here."
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10. classystegosuarus
"Have you ever tried taking a moment to realize that language evolves and new words are formed to name things such as dance moves? Similar to how kids sometimes struggle when reading Shakespeare because it uses the lingo and slang from that period. Language progresses with each generation, it actually fascinating to see how it changes"
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11. Michael Emerson-Quaynor
"To all you haters,this is a great song. Am sorry if you don't like it but I have a suggestion. DON'T WATCH WHAT YOU DON'T LIKE."
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UPDATE: July 10, 2015
Here are selected comments that are part of an interesting exchange between bloggers on another Hip-Hop/Pop video's discussion thread. This exchange started with a blogger posting an overtly racist comment
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ewufRwrayTI "GS Boyz - Stanky Legg
All of these comments are from 2015:
Paran01ac
"So that's what my cotton field workers went to do."
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Keliyah Clark
"Bruh if you're trying to be funny go back to the 1800s if was funny then we have something new thats funny not even close to this "joke". White people act like their better but there are some whites trying to be black. Black people know how to think. We know how to dance. The only thing whites know about is Starbucks."
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Justin H
Your making white people amd southern people look bad
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Dourden11
"+Keliyah Clark Why the [profnity deleted] are you condemning the whole white race based off one person? Ignorant [profanity deleted]."
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Eric Johnston
"+Keliyah Clark just because he's being racist and immature doesn't mean you have to be like. MLK didn't say blacks are better than whites he said all men are equal. Be the bigger person, what you're saying just encourages them"
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Wednesday, February 25, 2015
Three Old School Gospel Videos (with selected comments)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post showcases three African American Gospel videos and one African American/Canadian Gospel video and provides a sample of viewer comments from those videos about "old school" ("classic") Black Gospel.
I didn't attempt to summarize how these commenters described old school Gospel music and worship services. I'll leave it to readers to make their summaries from these selected comments, from other video comments, and other sources, including their personal experiences. Your contributions to such a summary are welcome in the comment section of this post.
This post is part of a continuing pancocojams series on the term "old school" (also writen as "old skool"). Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/what-old-school-really-means-how-it-got.html for a post on "What Old School REALLY Means & How It Got Those Meanings."
Other posts in this series will showcases songs that predate the contemporary (1990s to date) colloquial meaning of "old school" such as the 19th century religious song "Give Me That Old Time Religion" and the 1960s Rhythm and Blues song "Those Oldies But Goodies". Other posts in this series will showcase the 1994 Hip Hop song "Old School" by Aaliyah, the use of "old school" and comparable terms in African American Gospel music, in R&B music, and the use of "old school" in Caribbean Dancehall music. Those posts will be published ASAP and will be found by clicking the "old school music" tab that is found below.
In addition, a post on the related slang word "throwback" will also be published ASAP. That post will be found by clicking the throwback tab that is found below.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, religious, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the composers, arrangers, and people singing these songs. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEOS
These videos are presented in no particular order. With the exception of responses, the comments from those videos' viewer comment thread are presented in chronological order based on the year that they were posted in that discussion thread. These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only, and may not be in consecutive order.
Example #1: "Old Time Church" - The Mississippi Mass Choir [Song: I Love The Lord He Heard My Cry"]
malacomg Uploaded on Oct 29, 2010
The Mississippi Mass Choir - "Old Time Church" available at www.malaco.com or by calling 1-800-272-7936.
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Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTggpaBR6o
2011
1. John Palmer
"this viv brings bak alot of memory. i come up in one of those country church. and this take me back to my roots.bless u all"
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"viv" is probably a typo for "video"
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2. rmbb10
"Love it; nuthin; like dat ole' skool. This git ya right on thru; down home kuntry stuff."
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3. serpentinecreature3 years ago
I grew up in this type of church. So good for the soul.Thank you.
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4. Zazzii Fly
"this is so wonderfully moving to the soul, I love this."
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2012
5. ReverendBrotherKing
"This is an old meter hymn called "I Love the Lord, He Heard My Cry". The reason the title of this video says "Old Time Church" is because this hymn used to be sung in African American churches "back in the old days". There are quite a few old time meter hymns on YouTube. And by the way, the Mississippi Mass Choir sung the hymn in it's entirety. It can be sung longer or shorter depending on how many times the verses are repeated."
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6. OrijenoSin, 2013 [reply/related comment]
"Title of song: "I Love The Lord" by: Phillip Carter There are 3 chorus to this song. The chorus sang above is chorus 1. Chorus 1 : "I love the Lord (I love the Lord), He heard my cry (He heard my cry) And pitied every groan Long as I live (Long as I live) And troubles rise (And troubles rise) I'll hasten to His Throne." You can search for the entire lyrics online. Best wishes."
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2012
7. greatner1
"I am in the Primitive Baptist Church, and we still have church like this. This deacon in the church sings "Travelin Shoes", and it is really something to hear and rejoice by. I am used to this kind of church. Those old hymns are so soul touching. I'm so glad I have this privilege."
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2013
8. j lo
"Real church music I miss this"
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9. Tiara Banks
"I'm from Louisiana and they still do this at my church especially when someone is praying! I live in Beaumont, Texas so its hard to find a church here that reminds me of my home church.:
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10. kkpsi04
"That's Devotion.....and while the choir is singing, the deacon would be on one knee praying...."
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2014
11. Keywanis Johnson
"You should be able to feel this in your spirit and feel your spirit react to this song."
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12. G. Marie Tatum
"How many remember singing these meters at church? We did in New Orleans. Little Zion BC, 1st Zion BC, James Chapel BC..."
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13. Charity Dell
"I Love this old-style-going-back-to-slavery-times CHANTING--a beautiful, soul-filled way
of praying out of the depths of one's spirit...praise God for giving us these melodies and a way to reach him when we go through trials and tribulations..."
2015
14. DOLORES J MITCHELL
"HOW MANY REMEMBER OLD TIME CHURCH, WHEN YOU LEFT YOU KNEW HAD BEEN TO CHURCH---BE BLESSED WITH THIS POWERFUL MESSAGE IN SONG. LOVE YALL"
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Example #2: "Sunday Morning Medley" - Georgia Mass Choir
malacomg, Uploaded on Nov 2, 2010
Georgia Mass Choir Old Time Religion
Georgia Mass Choir - "Sunday Morning Medley" available at www.malaco.com or by calling 1-800-272-7936.
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Lead singer's preface to the medley:
..."When you go to church today, hardly can you find people singing Gospel songs. Anybody like them old time songs like we used to sing on Sunday mornin'?. I wanna here you say "Sunday mornin'" (choir and audience says - "Sunday Morning"). Sunday mornin' (Sunday mornin') Sunday mornin' (Sunday mornin'). We gonna take you to Sunday mornin'. Listen"...
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Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtKecd_JFx0
[Read my notes above about how these comments are presented.]
2011
1. SuperRpotter
"Loved it. Can't beat those old songs!!!"
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2. Melvina Robinson
"Thats that southern gospel sound from :01-:22 i love it! My favorite part is the end with LaShun Pace. i got this on DVD, but i got to find it!"
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2012
3. Charity Dell
"Love the polyrhythmic clapping..."Clap your hands, all you people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph!" Psalm 47"
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4. James B
"i just love the double and tripple claps...."
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2013
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2014
5. Chris I.
"Old school gospel at its best. Wish choirs still sang like that."
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6. Glyn Wood
"I am watching this Sunday Morning church crowd and I see old, young, in-betweens really taking this music to heart. Why can't we all watch this and know that ol' skool is wonderful for all ages. Churches can learn a lot by watching this wonderful video"
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7. EILEEN MILLER
"What memories of growing up in church with these songs!"
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8. Ruth Sudler
"I love these songs and this is what you call good old fashion gospel music."
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9. Emily Bolton
"Love tbe old time gospel. Its good for tbe soul."
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2015
10. Ezra Carter
"That is what we call having church. Old school devotional service."
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11. Taylar Nelson
"Lol love how the old school music all flowed together. The melody barely changed that shows you PRAISE to whatever melody is given."
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Example #3: Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus
pannellctp, Uploaded on Nov 18, 2010
Rev. James Cleveland Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus on the Gospel album
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Rev. Cleveland's introduction to the song
"I went to a little sanctified church one night. And they sang a little song. And I wanna sing it for you tonight. That little song stayed on my mind. And the words of the little song that I heard the saints singin they said "Can't nobody. Can't nooo... Cani't nobody do me like Jesus.
I wonder if I could get ya to do me a favor for a minute. I wonder if I could getcha to put your pocketbooks down. Make sure you got your money now. Don't never shout without your money. "Cause everybody around you is not saved you know.
I love the sanctified church cause the saints don't mind clapping their hands. They don't mind pattin their feet. They don't mind DANCIN'. Hallelujah.
I want you to come on in the balcony and out here on the main floor, put your hands together. Let's praise God for a minute. Come on!"
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Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBK9np69W3A
[Read my notes above about how these comments are presented.]
2010
1. lovrofgoodmusic
"I LOVE DIS VIDEO!! THANK U 4 REPOSTING THIS BACK ON DA UTUBE!!! THAT WAS SUM GOOD OL' FASHION SANCTIFIED CHURCH!!! MUSICIANS ANNOINTED AS WELL!! I WISH CHURCH WAS STILL LIKE THAT!! WE MISS U REV. CLEVELAND REST-IN-PEACE!! (richmond,va)"
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2. ss6384140
"I would hate to hear these new artist remake this song. I would hate to hear Tye Tribbett, Kirk franklin and others do this song b/c the musicianship would totally butcher this song. With the singers tryin to be cute and the musicans trying to out play one another. Musicians and singers like this wasnt tryin to be cute but anointed!! I miss the old skool music like this. Thank Rev. Cleveland & others I truly miss yall!!"
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3. Vonsha Brown
"This is the late Rev Cleveland at his best.Say what you will or may and I'm a 41 year old COGIC kid in Georgia when I think of "Gospel Music" in its "Classic" form I'm old enough to recall Mattie Moss Clark,Rev James Cleveland,Isaac Douglass and I could go on.No electric sliding on stage no over the top theatrics just giving praise to God in the "Beauty of Holiness" I love my singers of today but this is Church and then some."
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4. pannellctp
"...The modern day gospel has no feeling just a lot of jumping around and making noise."
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5. Akeem Adams
in reply to pannellctp
"@pannellctp Amen and Amen. I wish it would go back to the way it used to be. Back to Mahalia, Rosetta, Shirley, Albertina, Inez, James, Thomas A. Dorsey. You'll know the greats."
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2011
6. nett1eb
"...I grew up in a Pentacostal BAPTIST church! We had service like this almost eeerrrrrrr Sunday!!! We tore it up for the LORD! My Pastor was truly a word preaching Pastor filled with the Holy Spirit. God rest his soul. Like James Cleveland, we welcomed all at our church, no denominations segregation. Just those who believed in and Praised the true and living God!! and that was back in the day. I don't know WHAT has become of today's church. Pray!"
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7. Tammy112359
"Oh my GOD I simply love it this is the kinda Holy ghost music that use to get me through some tough times in my younger years and now that Iam older and finally got a computer and youtube upload and can find alot of the back in the day gospel I use to listen, get my praise on like crazy and stomp on that devil on a constant in Jesus name amen!!!"
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8. Strick Strickland
"This is the soul-wrenching gospe you don't hear anymore. The kind to bring you closer to God."
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9. Ladykeys07
"I used to watch this vhs tape with my granny when I was younger, and I loved the drummer. The Spirit hit him and he didn't want to stop playing. I loved it. A good drummer always have a extra pair of sticks!!!!!"
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10. nett1eb
"OMGooodness!!!! I sooooo MISS Havin church like this!!!!! Yes, this is the way you HAVE CHURCH!!!!!!! Til the musicians and eeeerrrrrrbody was full of the Holy Ghost/Spirit!!!!! Yes Lord, Yes Lord!!!! Anointed singing, music, and clapping!! You gotta KNOW how to CLAP Saints!!!!! It's all holyghost-filled! You can feel it ALLL OVER YOU!! We miss the great Gospel Legends that allowed the holyspirit and the anointing to have His Way. God bless the posting of this powerful song and the Man of God"
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2012
11. Klyons60
"im 15 years old and this is that ole time churcha yes i had to get up and shout wooohooo"
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2013
12. MegaBlackisBeautiful
"what happend to gospel like this"
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13. Gabriel Edwards
"I'm 16 years old and I have never been to a church that can get down like this. I guess because too many of em' play church nowadays. I can't stop dancing in my chair the music is so good. We need more people who can get down like this! New school music just ain't getting like this is! And the CHURCH!"
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14. brenda williams
in reply to Gabriel Edwards
"I admire you for being 16 yrs old and saying the new school music just not it! You are so right. See i am old school and my pastor was my uncle so i practically LIVED at church, and boy we sang all these kind of songs. But believe me we have some churches out their still praising God like the old school ones! I am in one still like this , i pray that God leads you to one in your city thats praising God just like this too! They are out there you just have to find it sweetie, be blessed!"
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15. TheFabiluvshion
"They was gettin it In Amen!!! I miss a tambourine in my hand and ole school church and music like this where the Holy Spirit takeover smh!!!"
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16. MegaBlackisBeautiful
"thats right gospel is definitely not what it should be its like they gone Hollywood now its time to stop entertaining and start ministering to the souls"
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17. MrDjDaredevil
in reply to MegaBlackisBeautiful
"IT DISAPPEARED NOW CATS JUST RAP AND SING R&B, AND BRAKE DANCE IN THE CHURCH THAT MESS DOES NOT BELONG IN A CHURCH ENVIRONMENT. THIS VIDEO IS REAL GOSPEL MUSIC.IT IS A SHAME THAT REAL GOSPEL MUSIC HAVE FADED AWAY.THIS IS WHY I TELL PEOPLE TO HOLD ON TO THEIR CLASSIC GOSPEL RECORDINGS BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE CLASSICS EVEN ON GOSPEL RADIO NO MORE.UN LESS THEIR GOSPEL RADIO STATION STILL HAVE IT AVAILABLE."
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18. Don Sparks
"There is no question that the HOLY GHOST IS REAL! this video was made in the 70's but my spirit rejoices and praise God like I was at that concert or should I say I felt like I was in Church listening to this song. The Spirit of God is real...!!!"
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19. psalm124
in reply to Don Sparks
"Well said .... no matter how old the song it, it can still touch you! Jesus the same yesterday, today and forevermore!"
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20. Diamond Thomas
"got this on tape :) its a movie called the gospel"
-snip-
This concert was filmed in 1982.
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21. Kenneth Smith
"If any of you get a chance purchase or watch this entire concert DVD. One of the greatest Gospel music concert videos ever. Rev. James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, The Mighty Clouds of Joy, The Clark Sisters, & The Hawkins Family (while still singing together). Man I can't help but praise God when I watch it. Gospel music has become too commercialized now. Like the days when in these concerts we see yokes being broken rejoicing in the Lord, not worried about how our hair or clothing looks"
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22. Kaprice Parker
"Why can't my generation gospel artist make a song like this every now and then. I love old school gospel.."
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23. Phyllis Whitfield
in reply to ShayROsie
"I know thats right - nowadays its so contemporary that there's no testimonial praise in the house b/c its all about entertainment. Don't get me wrong I like some of the songs today and they're good in their place - but these types of songs get you to a place of praise that makes you forget about everything and everybody b/c you thinking about Him and what's He's done. "CAN'T NOBODY DO ME LIKE JESUS!""
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2014
24. Artemis Raven
"I miss those sanctified churches. I came from one and we used to really get down. My old church was like this. The spirit used to show up when ever this song was sung. Memories of my grandmother."
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25. the1realesther
"Never seen anything like this! Gone are the days when musicians play in the Holy Ghost. Much talent but not anointing."
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26. caleene100
"STUMPING MY FEET, CLAPPING MY HANDS, SHAKING MY HEAD, DANCING AROUND.............LOVE ITTTTTTTTT. I REALLY FEEL OLD, REMEMBER THIS SONG FR BACK IN THE DAYS, WHEN CHURCH WAS JUST A TENT IN THE FIELD....HOW FAR WE'VE COME. THANK YOU FATHER"
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27. Shanelle Gillis
"My church is still a spirit filled Holy Ghost tongue talking shouting and foot stomping church, and we sing these old songs all the time! it's the only ones we sing! Thank you Jesus for Apostolic Pentecostal churches still like ours!!! God Bless!!!"
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28. Chris I.
"Love me some songs sang by the great "James Cleveland. That's what old school gospel was about back in the day. Wish church was like that nowadays."
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29. James Rae
"I still feel the power of this worship concert all these years later, The power of The Holy Ghost, Thank you Our Lord Jesus Christ for our people then and now Amen"
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30. vic stoc
"Thank you so much for posting this vid is a great blessing
The Holy Ghost Took Over the song and the anointing came down."
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31. christina valadez
"OH MY GOD.!!! THIS IS AWESOME,, THE DRUMMER IS AWESOME..!!!!!"
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32. Shamar Chang
"this is what you call playing under the anointing of the Holy Ghost
33. Andrew Davis1
"Certainly that new style contemporary gospel music will NEVER be able to compete with this old time style of music. They just don't have it.. So please step back!."
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2015
33. Robert Hill
"Classic one,Brings back so much memories,remember when I use to whip my mothers bed like I was playing the drums"
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34. Cynthia Abrams
...old SCHOOL is the best from the 1960's...we have morals and values...and we r covered by GODS shield!!!!"
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35. Blanche Barajas
"I grew up in an Apostolic Church like this, I moved to the state of Washington and even though I have found an Apostolic church, it is not like what I grew up with at all. I want my children to experience what I did. Please can anyone tell me where a church in the Tri-Cities, WA area like this is at. I love me my ol' time songs and praises."
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This post showcases three African American Gospel videos and one African American/Canadian Gospel video and provides a sample of viewer comments from those videos about "old school" ("classic") Black Gospel.
I didn't attempt to summarize how these commenters described old school Gospel music and worship services. I'll leave it to readers to make their summaries from these selected comments, from other video comments, and other sources, including their personal experiences. Your contributions to such a summary are welcome in the comment section of this post.
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Other posts in this series will showcases songs that predate the contemporary (1990s to date) colloquial meaning of "old school" such as the 19th century religious song "Give Me That Old Time Religion" and the 1960s Rhythm and Blues song "Those Oldies But Goodies". Other posts in this series will showcase the 1994 Hip Hop song "Old School" by Aaliyah, the use of "old school" and comparable terms in African American Gospel music, in R&B music, and the use of "old school" in Caribbean Dancehall music. Those posts will be published ASAP and will be found by clicking the "old school music" tab that is found below.
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Thanks to the composers, arrangers, and people singing these songs. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEOS
These videos are presented in no particular order. With the exception of responses, the comments from those videos' viewer comment thread are presented in chronological order based on the year that they were posted in that discussion thread. These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only, and may not be in consecutive order.
Example #1: "Old Time Church" - The Mississippi Mass Choir [Song: I Love The Lord He Heard My Cry"]
malacomg Uploaded on Oct 29, 2010
The Mississippi Mass Choir - "Old Time Church" available at www.malaco.com or by calling 1-800-272-7936.
-snip-
Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRTggpaBR6o
2011
1. John Palmer
"this viv brings bak alot of memory. i come up in one of those country church. and this take me back to my roots.bless u all"
-snip-
"viv" is probably a typo for "video"
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2. rmbb10
"Love it; nuthin; like dat ole' skool. This git ya right on thru; down home kuntry stuff."
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3. serpentinecreature3 years ago
I grew up in this type of church. So good for the soul.Thank you.
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4. Zazzii Fly
"this is so wonderfully moving to the soul, I love this."
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2012
5. ReverendBrotherKing
"This is an old meter hymn called "I Love the Lord, He Heard My Cry". The reason the title of this video says "Old Time Church" is because this hymn used to be sung in African American churches "back in the old days". There are quite a few old time meter hymns on YouTube. And by the way, the Mississippi Mass Choir sung the hymn in it's entirety. It can be sung longer or shorter depending on how many times the verses are repeated."
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6. OrijenoSin, 2013 [reply/related comment]
"Title of song: "I Love The Lord" by: Phillip Carter There are 3 chorus to this song. The chorus sang above is chorus 1. Chorus 1 : "I love the Lord (I love the Lord), He heard my cry (He heard my cry) And pitied every groan Long as I live (Long as I live) And troubles rise (And troubles rise) I'll hasten to His Throne." You can search for the entire lyrics online. Best wishes."
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2012
7. greatner1
"I am in the Primitive Baptist Church, and we still have church like this. This deacon in the church sings "Travelin Shoes", and it is really something to hear and rejoice by. I am used to this kind of church. Those old hymns are so soul touching. I'm so glad I have this privilege."
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2013
8. j lo
"Real church music I miss this"
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9. Tiara Banks
"I'm from Louisiana and they still do this at my church especially when someone is praying! I live in Beaumont, Texas so its hard to find a church here that reminds me of my home church.:
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10. kkpsi04
"That's Devotion.....and while the choir is singing, the deacon would be on one knee praying...."
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2014
11. Keywanis Johnson
"You should be able to feel this in your spirit and feel your spirit react to this song."
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12. G. Marie Tatum
"How many remember singing these meters at church? We did in New Orleans. Little Zion BC, 1st Zion BC, James Chapel BC..."
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13. Charity Dell
"I Love this old-style-going-back-to-slavery-times CHANTING--a beautiful, soul-filled way
of praying out of the depths of one's spirit...praise God for giving us these melodies and a way to reach him when we go through trials and tribulations..."
2015
14. DOLORES J MITCHELL
"HOW MANY REMEMBER OLD TIME CHURCH, WHEN YOU LEFT YOU KNEW HAD BEEN TO CHURCH---BE BLESSED WITH THIS POWERFUL MESSAGE IN SONG. LOVE YALL"
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Example #2: "Sunday Morning Medley" - Georgia Mass Choir
malacomg, Uploaded on Nov 2, 2010
Georgia Mass Choir Old Time Religion
Georgia Mass Choir - "Sunday Morning Medley" available at www.malaco.com or by calling 1-800-272-7936.
-snip-
Lead singer's preface to the medley:
..."When you go to church today, hardly can you find people singing Gospel songs. Anybody like them old time songs like we used to sing on Sunday mornin'?. I wanna here you say "Sunday mornin'" (choir and audience says - "Sunday Morning"). Sunday mornin' (Sunday mornin') Sunday mornin' (Sunday mornin'). We gonna take you to Sunday mornin'. Listen"...
-snip-
Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtKecd_JFx0
[Read my notes above about how these comments are presented.]
2011
1. SuperRpotter
"Loved it. Can't beat those old songs!!!"
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2. Melvina Robinson
"Thats that southern gospel sound from :01-:22 i love it! My favorite part is the end with LaShun Pace. i got this on DVD, but i got to find it!"
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2012
3. Charity Dell
"Love the polyrhythmic clapping..."Clap your hands, all you people; shout unto God with the voice of triumph!" Psalm 47"
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4. James B
"i just love the double and tripple claps...."
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2013
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2014
5. Chris I.
"Old school gospel at its best. Wish choirs still sang like that."
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6. Glyn Wood
"I am watching this Sunday Morning church crowd and I see old, young, in-betweens really taking this music to heart. Why can't we all watch this and know that ol' skool is wonderful for all ages. Churches can learn a lot by watching this wonderful video"
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7. EILEEN MILLER
"What memories of growing up in church with these songs!"
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8. Ruth Sudler
"I love these songs and this is what you call good old fashion gospel music."
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9. Emily Bolton
"Love tbe old time gospel. Its good for tbe soul."
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2015
10. Ezra Carter
"That is what we call having church. Old school devotional service."
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11. Taylar Nelson
"Lol love how the old school music all flowed together. The melody barely changed that shows you PRAISE to whatever melody is given."
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Example #3: Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus
pannellctp, Uploaded on Nov 18, 2010
Rev. James Cleveland Can't Nobody Do Me Like Jesus on the Gospel album
-snip-
Rev. Cleveland's introduction to the song
"I went to a little sanctified church one night. And they sang a little song. And I wanna sing it for you tonight. That little song stayed on my mind. And the words of the little song that I heard the saints singin they said "Can't nobody. Can't nooo... Cani't nobody do me like Jesus.
I wonder if I could get ya to do me a favor for a minute. I wonder if I could getcha to put your pocketbooks down. Make sure you got your money now. Don't never shout without your money. "Cause everybody around you is not saved you know.
I love the sanctified church cause the saints don't mind clapping their hands. They don't mind pattin their feet. They don't mind DANCIN'. Hallelujah.
I want you to come on in the balcony and out here on the main floor, put your hands together. Let's praise God for a minute. Come on!"
-snip-
Selected comments from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBK9np69W3A
[Read my notes above about how these comments are presented.]
2010
1. lovrofgoodmusic
"I LOVE DIS VIDEO!! THANK U 4 REPOSTING THIS BACK ON DA UTUBE!!! THAT WAS SUM GOOD OL' FASHION SANCTIFIED CHURCH!!! MUSICIANS ANNOINTED AS WELL!! I WISH CHURCH WAS STILL LIKE THAT!! WE MISS U REV. CLEVELAND REST-IN-PEACE!! (richmond,va)"
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2. ss6384140
"I would hate to hear these new artist remake this song. I would hate to hear Tye Tribbett, Kirk franklin and others do this song b/c the musicianship would totally butcher this song. With the singers tryin to be cute and the musicans trying to out play one another. Musicians and singers like this wasnt tryin to be cute but anointed!! I miss the old skool music like this. Thank Rev. Cleveland & others I truly miss yall!!"
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3. Vonsha Brown
"This is the late Rev Cleveland at his best.Say what you will or may and I'm a 41 year old COGIC kid in Georgia when I think of "Gospel Music" in its "Classic" form I'm old enough to recall Mattie Moss Clark,Rev James Cleveland,Isaac Douglass and I could go on.No electric sliding on stage no over the top theatrics just giving praise to God in the "Beauty of Holiness" I love my singers of today but this is Church and then some."
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4. pannellctp
"...The modern day gospel has no feeling just a lot of jumping around and making noise."
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5. Akeem Adams
in reply to pannellctp
"@pannellctp Amen and Amen. I wish it would go back to the way it used to be. Back to Mahalia, Rosetta, Shirley, Albertina, Inez, James, Thomas A. Dorsey. You'll know the greats."
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2011
6. nett1eb
"...I grew up in a Pentacostal BAPTIST church! We had service like this almost eeerrrrrrr Sunday!!! We tore it up for the LORD! My Pastor was truly a word preaching Pastor filled with the Holy Spirit. God rest his soul. Like James Cleveland, we welcomed all at our church, no denominations segregation. Just those who believed in and Praised the true and living God!! and that was back in the day. I don't know WHAT has become of today's church. Pray!"
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7. Tammy112359
"Oh my GOD I simply love it this is the kinda Holy ghost music that use to get me through some tough times in my younger years and now that Iam older and finally got a computer and youtube upload and can find alot of the back in the day gospel I use to listen, get my praise on like crazy and stomp on that devil on a constant in Jesus name amen!!!"
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8. Strick Strickland
"This is the soul-wrenching gospe you don't hear anymore. The kind to bring you closer to God."
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9. Ladykeys07
"I used to watch this vhs tape with my granny when I was younger, and I loved the drummer. The Spirit hit him and he didn't want to stop playing. I loved it. A good drummer always have a extra pair of sticks!!!!!"
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10. nett1eb
"OMGooodness!!!! I sooooo MISS Havin church like this!!!!! Yes, this is the way you HAVE CHURCH!!!!!!! Til the musicians and eeeerrrrrrbody was full of the Holy Ghost/Spirit!!!!! Yes Lord, Yes Lord!!!! Anointed singing, music, and clapping!! You gotta KNOW how to CLAP Saints!!!!! It's all holyghost-filled! You can feel it ALLL OVER YOU!! We miss the great Gospel Legends that allowed the holyspirit and the anointing to have His Way. God bless the posting of this powerful song and the Man of God"
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2012
11. Klyons60
"im 15 years old and this is that ole time churcha yes i had to get up and shout wooohooo"
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2013
12. MegaBlackisBeautiful
"what happend to gospel like this"
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13. Gabriel Edwards
"I'm 16 years old and I have never been to a church that can get down like this. I guess because too many of em' play church nowadays. I can't stop dancing in my chair the music is so good. We need more people who can get down like this! New school music just ain't getting like this is! And the CHURCH!"
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14. brenda williams
in reply to Gabriel Edwards
"I admire you for being 16 yrs old and saying the new school music just not it! You are so right. See i am old school and my pastor was my uncle so i practically LIVED at church, and boy we sang all these kind of songs. But believe me we have some churches out their still praising God like the old school ones! I am in one still like this , i pray that God leads you to one in your city thats praising God just like this too! They are out there you just have to find it sweetie, be blessed!"
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15. TheFabiluvshion
"They was gettin it In Amen!!! I miss a tambourine in my hand and ole school church and music like this where the Holy Spirit takeover smh!!!"
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16. MegaBlackisBeautiful
"thats right gospel is definitely not what it should be its like they gone Hollywood now its time to stop entertaining and start ministering to the souls"
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17. MrDjDaredevil
in reply to MegaBlackisBeautiful
"IT DISAPPEARED NOW CATS JUST RAP AND SING R&B, AND BRAKE DANCE IN THE CHURCH THAT MESS DOES NOT BELONG IN A CHURCH ENVIRONMENT. THIS VIDEO IS REAL GOSPEL MUSIC.IT IS A SHAME THAT REAL GOSPEL MUSIC HAVE FADED AWAY.THIS IS WHY I TELL PEOPLE TO HOLD ON TO THEIR CLASSIC GOSPEL RECORDINGS BECAUSE YOU WILL NOT HEAR THE CLASSICS EVEN ON GOSPEL RADIO NO MORE.UN LESS THEIR GOSPEL RADIO STATION STILL HAVE IT AVAILABLE."
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18. Don Sparks
"There is no question that the HOLY GHOST IS REAL! this video was made in the 70's but my spirit rejoices and praise God like I was at that concert or should I say I felt like I was in Church listening to this song. The Spirit of God is real...!!!"
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19. psalm124
in reply to Don Sparks
"Well said .... no matter how old the song it, it can still touch you! Jesus the same yesterday, today and forevermore!"
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20. Diamond Thomas
"got this on tape :) its a movie called the gospel"
-snip-
This concert was filmed in 1982.
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21. Kenneth Smith
"If any of you get a chance purchase or watch this entire concert DVD. One of the greatest Gospel music concert videos ever. Rev. James Cleveland, Shirley Caesar, The Mighty Clouds of Joy, The Clark Sisters, & The Hawkins Family (while still singing together). Man I can't help but praise God when I watch it. Gospel music has become too commercialized now. Like the days when in these concerts we see yokes being broken rejoicing in the Lord, not worried about how our hair or clothing looks"
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22. Kaprice Parker
"Why can't my generation gospel artist make a song like this every now and then. I love old school gospel.."
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23. Phyllis Whitfield
in reply to ShayROsie
"I know thats right - nowadays its so contemporary that there's no testimonial praise in the house b/c its all about entertainment. Don't get me wrong I like some of the songs today and they're good in their place - but these types of songs get you to a place of praise that makes you forget about everything and everybody b/c you thinking about Him and what's He's done. "CAN'T NOBODY DO ME LIKE JESUS!""
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2014
24. Artemis Raven
"I miss those sanctified churches. I came from one and we used to really get down. My old church was like this. The spirit used to show up when ever this song was sung. Memories of my grandmother."
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25. the1realesther
"Never seen anything like this! Gone are the days when musicians play in the Holy Ghost. Much talent but not anointing."
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26. caleene100
"STUMPING MY FEET, CLAPPING MY HANDS, SHAKING MY HEAD, DANCING AROUND.............LOVE ITTTTTTTTT. I REALLY FEEL OLD, REMEMBER THIS SONG FR BACK IN THE DAYS, WHEN CHURCH WAS JUST A TENT IN THE FIELD....HOW FAR WE'VE COME. THANK YOU FATHER"
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27. Shanelle Gillis
"My church is still a spirit filled Holy Ghost tongue talking shouting and foot stomping church, and we sing these old songs all the time! it's the only ones we sing! Thank you Jesus for Apostolic Pentecostal churches still like ours!!! God Bless!!!"
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28. Chris I.
"Love me some songs sang by the great "James Cleveland. That's what old school gospel was about back in the day. Wish church was like that nowadays."
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29. James Rae
"I still feel the power of this worship concert all these years later, The power of The Holy Ghost, Thank you Our Lord Jesus Christ for our people then and now Amen"
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30. vic stoc
"Thank you so much for posting this vid is a great blessing
The Holy Ghost Took Over the song and the anointing came down."
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31. christina valadez
"OH MY GOD.!!! THIS IS AWESOME,, THE DRUMMER IS AWESOME..!!!!!"
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32. Shamar Chang
"this is what you call playing under the anointing of the Holy Ghost
33. Andrew Davis1
"Certainly that new style contemporary gospel music will NEVER be able to compete with this old time style of music. They just don't have it.. So please step back!."
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2015
33. Robert Hill
"Classic one,Brings back so much memories,remember when I use to whip my mothers bed like I was playing the drums"
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34. Cynthia Abrams
...old SCHOOL is the best from the 1960's...we have morals and values...and we r covered by GODS shield!!!!"
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35. Blanche Barajas
"I grew up in an Apostolic Church like this, I moved to the state of Washington and even though I have found an Apostolic church, it is not like what I grew up with at all. I want my children to experience what I did. Please can anyone tell me where a church in the Tri-Cities, WA area like this is at. I love me my ol' time songs and praises."
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