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Wednesday, May 25, 2022

Correcting The Mistaken Belief That Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Is Performed At Every Historically Black University (Part III: comments about stomp & shake cheerleading at Texas Southern & at Prairie View Universities)


Smash Time Productions, March 7, 2022
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TxSU = Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas

PV = Prairie View University located in Prairie View, Texas
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Both Texas Southern and Prairie View are historically Black colleges and universities that are located in the deep South. Stomp & shake cheerleading is new to those universities.

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Read information about SWAC and CIACC in Part I of this pancocojams series.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series which corrects the mistaken belief that stomp & shake cheerleading is the cheer style that is performed at every historically Black college and university (HBCU).

This post showcases a 2022 of a stomp & shake  cheer battle between Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas and Prairie View University located in Prairie View, Texas.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a 2020 YouTube video of a cheer battle between cheer squads from two universities in North Carolina. This post also presents information about the CIAA, SWAC, and MEAC collegiate athletic conferences and presents selected comments on this subject from two 2005 hbcusports.com discussion threads.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp_25.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a YouTube video of Southern University's Blue Chips stomp & shake cheerleading team. That post also presents comments from various YouTube discussion threads  about stomp & shake cheerleading in different regions of the United States.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.   

Thanks to the cheerleading team that is featured in this video, thanks to all those who are quoted in this post ,and thanks to the publisher of the video that is embedded in this post.

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SELECTED COMMENTS  FROM THIS YOUTUBE DISCUSSION THREAD

[This is the video that is embedded in this post.]

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. I've included brief explanatory notes after a few of these comments. I've also added an opinion note after one of these comments.

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1. MR Mocha Major
"Wait a minute! I didn’t know the cheerleaders had all that smoke! I’m here for it! Great job both teams!"

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2. beyoncestan101
"Hmmm you never watched CIAA cheerleaders ? Lol"

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3. MR Mocha Major
"@beyoncestan101  Never heard of it. Looking it up now."

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4. beyoncestan101
"@MR Mocha Major  CIAA is the oldest HBCU athlete conference. You need to brush up on your HBCU history. It’s only 4 HBCU athlete conferences."

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5. MR Mocha Major
"@beyoncestan101  I’m from the south. All I have ever known is SWAC."

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6. beyoncestan101
"@MR Mocha Major  The majority of CIAA schools are in the South also in NC,SC and VA."

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7. MR Mocha Major
" @beyoncestan101  I’m from Louisiana. I should have specified the DEEP south. I consider those states the northeast lol"

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8. beyoncestan101
" @MR Mocha Major  I’m from NC and this is very much the South. NC has more students enrolled at HBCUs than any other state. 60k plus to be exact. We have the strongest HBCU culture here."

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9. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101  Never heard of any HBCU outside of Southern, Jackson, Famu, Howard, Hampton, Grambling, Tuskegee, TXSU, PVAMU,  Morehouse, Clark and Spelman until like a few years ago."

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10. Supreme
"I was in Charlotte one weekend and it just so happen to be CIAA. I had no idea what it was even about."

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11. beyoncestan101
"Supreme  LOL I wouldn’t brag about being uninformed about HBCUs. In NC which has the most students enrolled at HBCUs we don’t talk much about SWAC or SIAC schools but we know who they are.  NCAT got like 5k more students then the biggest SWAC school please stop. πŸ˜‚"

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12. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101  Not bragging. Just saying, it's not the Met Gala or anything. It's a regional celebration. I had fun that weekend I was there and loved Charlotte and even came back the next year"

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13. beyoncestan101
"@Supreme  The CIAA is the Met Gala of HBCU events. In 10 years the city of Charlotte made over 700,000 million dollars. The tournament moved to Baltimore, MD for 3 years."

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14. Eric Ford
"And y'all are leaving out the most important fact NC has the most HBCUs than any state it's why we have the most attendants and the largest HBCU enrollment wise is n NC (NCA&T) and somebody lying saying they never heard of any HBCUs in NC who graduates the most  Black Engineers in the World whose School of Engineering is ranked in the top 5 Nationally that's including PWIs- NC A&T, NCCU is one of the top law schools in the country and WSSU is one of the top nursing school in the country. All three of the great HBCUs are in the State of NC"

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15. Eric Ford
"@ MR Mocha Major these cheerleaders ain't ready  for the Cheerleaders of the CIAA they can't compete with that Stomp&Shake style that would make these two squads look like a  elementary school squad especially compared to WSSU and St Augustine University squads"

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16. Supreme
"@Eric Ford  In the South, the stomp and shake style would be more suited for a Pep Squad or Step Team. Our cheerleaders focus more on tumbling and being girly. I watch some stomp and shake videos and it seems the focus is energy and pep. It's cool. I don't understand it, because it's not my culture. But, they look cute most times."

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17. Supreme
"@Eric Ford  Lol. Yes. As someone from Louisiana, I recently (last 5 years) found out that people from Virginia consider themselves southerners. I never knew that."

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18. Eric Ford
"@Supreme  it's because they are a southern state they had no choice. if Washington DC was a state it would be a southern state, Maryland is a southern state"

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19. Eric Ford
"@Supreme  and u think stomp & Shake isn't girly ...lol...wow y'all ppl in the Deep South are I keep the rest to myself..lol . There's nothing about stomp &Shake that's appropriate for a step team. And y'all need to do more than concentrate on tumbling y'all have a lot to work to do in that area alone. tumbling can be incorporated in stomp and shake cause NC A&T does quite well with it. And what do you think cheerleading here? A pep squad is a student body thing has nothing to do with cheer and the purpose of cheerleaders is to pep up the fans during a game... what exactly are they teaching y'all in the Deep South got me puzzled 🀨"

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20. Supreme
"@Eric Ford  That's why I said, It's not my culture. Just a heads up: I like Stomp and Shake.  I'm still learning about it. I thought the goal was the stomp the loudest and to cheer in the deepest voice. Stomp and Shake is becoming more and more popular. Even Southern University has a separate Stomp and Shake team now."

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21. Supreme
" @Eric Ford  Send me the best Stomp And Shake squads to watch. I love all forms of dance and cheer and can appreciate Stomp and Shake."

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22. Supreme
"@beyoncestan101  CIAA brings in about 43 million per year for Charlotte. That's less than what the Bayou Classic brings to New Orleans, which is only two teams against each other. CIAA is not this big thing you think it is. It's fun and I love seeing successful black people, but yea."

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23. Eric Ford
"@Supreme  no stomp and Shake is about using all body parts it's not restricted to arm usage it's also a fast pace of cheering and the cheers are more personal meaning not necessarily team focused  but cheerleader to cheerleader focused and more confrontational. The cheers are loud but the stomps not necessarily so but in away perfect for bench cheering for example a basketball game"

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24. Eric Ford
"@Supreme  Stomp and Shake isn't my culture it's not that old. It was created in North Carolina less than 20 yrs ago. I'm getting use to it myself because I come from old school competitive based cheering wear stiffness, arms and tumbling is the only focus stomp and Shake requires a lot of quickness"
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The earliest documented dates that I've found for stomp & shake cheerleading is the 1970s. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/06/when-did-stomp-shake-cheerleading-begin.html for the pancocojams post entitled "When Did Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Begin? (Online Comments & Website Statements)"

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25. beyoncestan101
"@Supreme  You’re a liar! The 2021 Final Four generated around $40m for Indianapolis . Charlotte made lover $50 million at the 2020 CIAA tournament. The CIAA tournament is actually one of the biggest sporting events in American sports culture not just HBCU Cultufe."

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26. Da’Ron Breaux
"When the TXSU male cheerleader came out and did his death drop, that shut PV all the way down πŸ˜‚πŸ‘πŸ½"
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The "death drop" is a dance movement that has its roots in drag queen balls. It's most closely associated now with Hip Hop majorette dancing. It hasn't been associated with stomp & shake cheerleading.    

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27. Tynera Piper
"So proud to be a TxSU Alumni Cheerleader!!!! Yassssssssss! THAT is how you do it!! πŸ“£πŸ―♥"️

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28. CheerPhi93
"I am still trying to process why a "Shablam whatchoomacallit" or even a "deathdrop" has to do with any technical skill in cheer?  At least the PV guy, got up and did 2-3 very nice toe touches (with pointed toes) into a back tuck...Now that was nice!!!  TXSU had some good straight arm motions in their cheer.  Yet, with 15-20 folk on the floor, they could have been louder.  Both squads dancing (8 counts whatever yall call it these days)...blah....."

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29. TheeWalterTerrell
"Gotta love the SWAC!"

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30. Tangela Woodland
"Loved the battle but PV need to leave that stomp n shake mess alone. Don't bring that mess to the SWAC....WE DON'T DO THAT HERE!"

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31. Eric Ford
"What stomp and shake. The SWAC can't handle the stomp and shake and u right they do need to leave it alone but they first need to develop the technique first"

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32. Tynera Piper
"WE DON’T DO THAT HERE!!!!!!!!!!"

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33. Eric Ford
"@Tynera Piper  that ain't the only thing y'all don't do here, cheering not one of them either but that deathdrop was a beast and the only thing I found impressive about this video. And what PV was trying to do wasn't anywhere near Stomp & Shake it's best they stick with their own traditional type of cheering. Stomp and Shake was created n NC y'all ain't ready for that down there..."
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"NC" = North Carolina

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34. Tynera Piper
"@Eric Ford  Listen, what they do there now is their business. I am proud either way!  I can only speak for when I was cheering AND captain 10 years ago!!! The death drop did shut PV down, but if THIS were MY SQUAD, PV wouldn’t have gotten a chance to shake their pom poms ☺"️

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35. Eric Ford
"@Tynera Piper  lol ... i hear you.. I'm old school still big on competitive cheerleading. And this Stomp and Shake has taken over in high school circles in NC especially at prodominated black schools hell I'm still pissed my alma mater (NCAT) dropped coed and went to all female straight stomp &Shake squad but I guess they had no choice since Stomp and Shake is sooo huge n NC"

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36. Eric Goldberg
"Is this normal for HBCU cheer teams to “meet in the middle” I went to LSU and have never seen anything like this… or maybe it’s a special cheer offπŸ˜‚….I definitely found it interesting…. W goes to TxSU…..πŸ…πŸ˜†πŸ₯‡πŸŽ–"

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37. LihJayYT
"Look up stomp & shake"

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38. beyoncestan101
"I need SWAC cheerleaders to study the CIAA because this was very sloppy."

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39. R J
"Maybe pvam but TXSU handled theirs πŸ…πŸ…πŸ…"

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40. beyoncestan101
"@R J  Nah they would get ate up my multiple CIAA squads in this format"

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41. Eric Ford
"Both teams have a lot of work to do, the only thing I was impressed with was that death drop. The one cheer that each squad did do lacked enough energy for me. Tx Southern squad was acting more like a danceline than a cheer squad"

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42. R J
"@beyoncestan101  Chile.. which teams so I can blast you lol"

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43. beyoncestan101
"@R J  WSSU, Virginia State, Lincoln, Bowie, St. Aug ,l just to name a couple."

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44. beyoncestan101
"@R J  CIAA has the most popular rand original HBCU cheerleaders. This is why “ Super Saturday” attracts thousands of fans. The SWAC squads would get are up by most CIAA squads."

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45. perrion357
"@beyoncestan101  That may be true, but the SWAC has the Best Marching Bands in the Country, the CIAA doesn't really have bands 50 people and less doesn't count"

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46. beyoncestan101
"@perrion357  What does Band have to do with cheerleading? The CIAA is D2 and smaller private schools. Still the CIAA Basketball tournament is the #1 HBCU sporting event ."

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47. R J
"@beyoncestan101  the SWAC is still the best! Everyone check for us boo! Have a blessed week!"

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48. Jerron Johnson
"πŸ€£πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ€£ I was thinking the same thing. But I decided to let them have it #HBCUPRIDE and all .. But this was funny at best

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49. beyoncestan101
"@Jerron Johnson  Hmm the largest HBCU is. NC A&T  and GHOE is the biggest Homecoming . Howard, Spelman, Morehouse are the most prestigious. The CIAA Tournament is also the biggest HBCU sporting event. No shade but none of these schools are in the SWAC."

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50. 1500daizy
"@beyoncestan101  nobody cares lol they ain’t battling ciaa school πŸ˜‚"

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51. Best Way Possible πŸ™πŸΎ
"(I GOT TIME TODAY). The hate.. 🀣🀣. Well, it’s expected 🀷🏾‍♂️;  you can almost smell the hate by reading the totally irrelevant comparison to the CIAA🀣.  To truly understand “SWAC culture”, you must have an appreciation for the specific distinction between the different HBCU schools and conferences. Its like vocal accents almost.. that vary from different places within the US, or different foods we appreciate in Chicago or Atlanta. Two different places and unique flavors but There’s an appreciation for both if you understand the history of each HBCU. ALL should equally be celebrated! We love CIAA schools but the SWAC Is and always will be in its OWN lane. PERIOD, just has any other region or conference. LET TXSU and PV have their shine. Dang 🀣🀣 smh.. there’s always one.. lol πŸ˜‚ — TXSU C/o 2009 🀘🏾 πŸ… πŸ’¨"

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52. beyoncestan101
"@Best Way Possible πŸ™πŸΎ  I absolutely love SWAC Culture! Being in the East Coast football culture is not as big this is lord basketball dominated . However the CIAA is Iconic for HBCU cheerleadering and the other HBCU conferences can take a lesson or two from the style and precision of the teams. This was NOT a good battle . The CIAA cheer exhibition at it speak filled an NBA arena sir……."
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53. STL - Another Comeback City
"@beyoncestan101  TSU and PV are in "the real (deep) south" -like most SWAC schools.  They dont have real "battles" down here - just awkward friendly rivalries. We're too kind down here for hard-nosed "battles". CIAA is actually east coast and quasi-southern. Y'all used to fighting (battling) out there and Atlanta hasn't been "southern" since all of Black Chicago, St. Louis, Philly, NYC and Detroit moved there in 90s and early 2000s."

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34. Eric Ford
"@beyoncestan101  thats not true most CIAA schools are public institutions with the exception of JCSU, Livingstone , Shaw, St Aug, and Lincoln"

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55. Eric Ford
"@Charles Melton  scared to check? Although, they D2 if we were to match up The SWAC cheerleaders against the CIAA cheerleaders the SWAC won't win once and will get booed off their own courts. She's right this ain't even considered a cheer battle idk what to call it a battle definitely it ain't. I've seen all the SWAC cheerleaders squads they all lack energy their stunts are simple but nowhere near top notch. A matter of fact I can put some high school cheerleading squads like Harding University HS, Vance HS, Olympic HS all out of Charlotte, NC, Dudley HS out of Durham, Fayetteville 71st out of Fayetteville these are high schools out of NC will have the energy on turbo from the start to the end and wax the floor with these SWAC cheerleaders boy please you better recognize!! cause you ain't seen jack!!!"

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56. Eric Ford
"Most of the institutions that was part of the old MEAC came from the CIAA .. North Carolina A&T, North Carolina Central, Hampton, And Norfork St all were former CIAA schools look at them now!!!"

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57. Smash Time Productions
"@Best Way Possible πŸ™πŸΎ  well said! Everyone has there own lane! CIAA Cheerleaders have gotten all the shine for years. Mainly because their bands and other units are not as entertaining compared their cheer squads . Vs the SWAC most ppl are coming to see the bands and cheer gets overlooked. Now i post one high quality video of SWAC cheer and it’s a problem. Makes me wonder would have if SWAC cheer got even more exposure. πŸ€”"

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58. beyoncestan101
"@Smash Time Productions  It’s not a problem we love all HBCUs ❤️ I was just saying this format is original to the CIAA and I’m glad the Stomp n Shake style is finally taking off in the SWAC!"

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59. CartierCroix
"@beyoncestan101  please understand SWACC isn’t stomp and shake. When all you do is stay on the east coast you begin to be closed minded. SWACC is very much a stunt, and tumble squads with strong sharp motions we don’t do stomp and shake. And that’s coming from a cheerleader who cheered in Georgia, Maryland. People need to understand the difference in styles"

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60. CartierCroix
"@Smash Time Productions  go ahead and keep filming the cheer teams from the SWACC bc clearly they want more"

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61. Smash Time Productions
"@CartierCroix  Trust me i will."

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Correcting The Mistaken Belief That Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Is Performed At Every Historically Black University (Part II: comments about stomp & shake cheerleading at Southern University)



Marvin Price, March 7, 2020

Introducing the NEWEST Organization on the campus of SUBR
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In 2020, Southern University- which is  located in Baton Rouge, New Orleans- became the first member of the SWACcollegiate athletic conference to have a stomp & shake cheerleading team. Members of SWAC are historical Black colleges & universities (HBCUs) that are located in what Americans call "the deep South". In contrast, HBCUs cheerleading teams that have performed stomp & shake cheerleading for decades are mostly located in the Southern states that border the Northeast region of  the United States. Those HBCUs are members of the CIAA collegiate athletic conference. 

Read information about SWAC and CIAA in Part I of this pancocojams series.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series which corrects the mistaken belief that stomp & shake cheerleading is the cheer style that is performed at every historically Black college and university (HBCU).

This post showcases a YouTube video of Southern University's Blue Chips stomp & shake cheerleading team. This post also presents comments from various YouTube discussion threads  about stomp & shake cheerleading in different regions of the United States.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a 2020 YouTube video of a cheer battle between cheer squads from two universities in North Carolina. This post also presents information about the CIAA, SWAC, and MEAC collegiate athletic conferences and presents selected comments on this subject from two hbcusports.com discussion threads.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp_92.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a 2022 of a stomp & shake  cheer battle between Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas and Prairie View University located in Prairie View, Texas.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.   

Thanks to the cheerleading team that is featured in this video, thanks to all those who are quoted in this post ,and thanks to the publisher of the video that is embedded in this post.

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SELECTED COMMENTS  FROM TWO YOUTUBE DISCUSSION THREADS

These discussion threads are numbered for referencing purposes only.

I've included brief explanatory notes after a few of these comments. I've also added my editorial notes after a few of these comments.

I didn't give  the full names for most of the universities that are referred to with abbreviations.

Discussion thread #1
From 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vu5VNhE493U Southern University "Code Blue" Stomp & Shake Cheer Team | 2020, Marvin Price, March 7, 2020

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Two Sockz Productions, 2020
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"Southern University's Code Blue is here!!!! We are excited to see it. It's so amazing to see SNS in the SWAC division. Welcome to the SNS world!"


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2. Kathryn Simmons, 2020
"Yes lord; I’m so glad stomp & shake has really reached this part of the South πŸ’™"

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3. akapam57
"Wow. I was unaware that this type of cheer wasn't everywhere. Especially at hbcu schools.  I like both types."

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4. sexiyella00
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The Original style of Black cheering!!! SU cheerleaders used to use this style!! I REPEAT THE STOMP AND SHAKE STYLE ISN’T NEW TO SU. ITS MAKING A RETURN!!"
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I haven't come across any information to support this comment. sexiyella00 may be referring to African American cheerleaders prior to stomp & shake cheerleading who chanted dissing comments . However, the earliest documented dates that I've found for stomp & shake cheerleading is the 1970s. Click 
http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/06/when-did-stomp-shake-cheerleading-begin.html for the pancocojams post entitled "When Did Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Begin? (Online Comments & Website Statements)"

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5. toyamay1
"Oh gee now all the middle school squads in the area are going to start doing hype 🀦🏾‍♀️..    let me come up with another cheer!!! #HCABLAZERS  Good Job guys!! A few high/middle schools in the area do stomp and shake style of cheer. It will be interesting to see if it will be accepted on the yard!!"

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6. itzkaiakae
"That is literally everyone’s favorite cheer on campus. It’s the cheer that got us recognized by the student body and faculty and staff. We just HAD to do it for Jaguar Preview Day. It was requested πŸ˜‚"

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7. Tremendous Carroll
"Some middle/high schools already do hype."

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8. toyamay1
"@Tremendous Carroll  in our league we were the only ones to do it. I'm sure all the teams will do it next season. Standards are set on the yard :)"

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9. kira kira
"That H-Y-P-E cheer looks a lot, almost move for move and word for word like Lincoln University FeFe's. Love that y'all are bringing stomp n shake elsewhere, but SNS is not about taking cheers move for move and word for word. It's about being original :) Thanks for bringing the CIAA's style outside of the CIAA!"
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10. Davonj49
"Okay now they giving me a little WSSU Powerhouse cheerleaders. This is awesome that CIAA stomp n shake style is reaching out to other conferences. I wonder how SU cheerleaders feel about this. I believe that they can eventually come together incorporate both traditional & stomp n shake."
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WSSU = Winston Salem State University (located in Winston Salem, North Carolina)  was one of the first universities to perform stomp & shake cheerleading. That cheerleading teams' performance styles and many of its cheer  compositions have had (and continues to have) a tremendous influence on stomp & shake cheerleading.

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11. itzkaiakae
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Davonj49 we are inspired by WSSU."

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12. sexiyella00
"It originated in all HBCU’s period. I can tell your young. SU’s cheerleaders just changed to the varsity style in the late 90’s all before it was the STOMP AND SHAKE STYLE was used which was very common among BLACK cheerleading squads. Do your research!"
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13. Jerome Brooks
" @sexiyella00  Nah, fam. This "style" of cheering originated in the CIAA, namely among Virginia State and WSSU in the late 80s. You can search through old SU clips on YouTube and you'll see their cheerleaders never had this style even in the 80s. The choreography is all CIAA.
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14. Eli Gorbinsky
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WSSU was not strictly stomp and shake in the ‘90s"

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15. Eli Gorbinsky
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It was a version but it wasn’t strictly that. They did pyramids and everything at one time. This is when Winston was forcing blue in the uniforms along with the red and white..."

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16. Jerome Brooks
"@Eli Gorbinsky  I grew up in NC in the 90s. The entire conference was strictly stomp and shake in the 90s. They have clips on YouTube from the 90s."

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17. Jerome Brooks
" @Eli Gorbinsky  search "WSSU 93" on YouTube"

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18. Eli Gorbinsky
"Jerome Brooks I don’t have to. I’m good. I know the history. Thanks"

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19. Eli Gorbinsky
"King Kaaeee Keep up the good work! This is a great style! Glad to see it in LA"
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20. El
i Gorbinsky
"Jerome Brooks My aunt cheered from 90-94 under Mrs. Rivers.  I too grew up on Patterson Ave and I know for a fact all of the Cheer Phi and yelping didn’t come until after she graduated."

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21, Eli Gorbinsky
"sexiyella00 I mean how someone gonna point me to a video that says 93 that was put up in the last 6-7 years when they were know as Cheer Phi!  Not to mention I have seen it on YouTube several times and my aunt has the VHS! I can name most of the people in there because I was in awe of them! And it has the pyramids just like I said and the uniforms with the blue in it! πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ It would be different if YouTube was around in 93 and it said cheer phi . These comments are too much. Don’t know why folks can’t be happy Stomp and Shake has a new team."
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"VHS" here is an abbreviation for. trademark video home system: a video cassette recording system using 1/2 ″ magnetic tape

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22. CheerPhi93
"Thank you!  At least you all shoutedt us out or gave us credit; unlike, these other squads who just take/steal and call it their own...."
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23, CheerPhi93
"
Jerome Brooks....correction.....The entire conference WASN"T strictly stomp and shake.  Many squads mixed in the traditional styles such as:  WSSU, Norfolk State, Hampton (these are the squads that I do remember doing pyramids/stunts."

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24. CheerPhi93
"Correction...We weren't "forcing" blue into our uniforms.  At that time, blue was part of our University's colors (the trim of blue).  Around the 2000's the blue was dropped and our school colors were left as (Red and Black)..."

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25. CheerPhi93
"Thanks for supporting WSSU Varsity Team/ Red Team/ or Cheer-Phi....I see you know a lot of the history; however, some of your statements are off and I hope you don't mind me correcting you."

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26. Twila Pemberton
"I definitely felt some WSSU Powerhouse vibes! 😍"

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27. CheerPhi93
"Twila, I saw a few similarities.  Someone on Code Blue did say they were inspired by WSSU.  At least, they pay homage to a team; unlike, other squads."

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28. ThePaul641
"Cheer and stomp is taking over!! Great job"

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29. Jss Pss
"Some of the BR high schools been doing it ... it's finally catching up to SUBR"
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If I correctly understand this comment, high schools in the Baton Rouge (BR) area performing stomp & shake cheerleading before Southern University started its stomp & shake cheerleading team.

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30. Phill Damon
"Congrats SU Code Blue for bringing Stomp and shake style to Southern. Can't wait to see yall in person.  #SNSIsTheBest."

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31. CheerPhi93
"Congrats on the new team Code Blue.  As a new team, yawl are doing better than most squads in the CIAA (from the small clips I currently see).  A few critiques.  When you are doing a slow chant (like hype) the "Founder" or Captain should make sure his Low V doesn't look like a "T" b/c that is how it looked.  #2. With the upstomp, leg placement (the leg coming up) should be close to a 90 degree as possible with the upstomp foot POINTING downwards and beside the opposite knee as if you are in a (lib)....Many of your upstomps have "flexed" foot.  Code Blue, you are not in competition with any other squad in your conference (at this point) so be yourself.  Less is best.  Please, please do you and find ways to come into your own.  I am thankful that you all asked another squad for a chant here and there; THAT WAS THE MOST RESPECTFUL GESTURE.  However, be careful, b/c one similarity of this or that, folk will start comparing you all to other squads.  For example, when you all do your "C" sign up in the air...or the ad lib (blllllrrrrrryip)...folk will say you done copped WSSU....So be mindful of those things and build upon your own creativity.....Peace, Love, and Happiness.  Cheer-Phi (Papa-Ra '93)."

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32. CheerPhi93
"Goodness Gracious....After many years cheering, instructing camps, coaching my WSSU 03-04, and coaching high school in 2017,  this old man here has retired!  I just watch and critique.  However, I can point you to many Stomp N Shake contacts.  Some do travel to give camps; however, I am not sure how far!  Justin Plummer, you are welcome and good luck on the upcoming season!"
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This comment appears to be written in response to another comment. However, I couldn't find that comment in that discussion thread.

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2021

33. πŸ‘‘Da’Kyng’DomπŸ‘‘
"IM GAGGINGGGG. YESSSS. wanted to bring this to pvamu when I was their in 11”-13”😩😩πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"
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"PVAMU" = Prarie View A&M University, a HBCU located in Prarie View, Texas.

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Discussion Thread #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsDx4w27fyU SU Code Blue Stomp-N-Shake Cheerleaders | Boombox Classic Pep Rally πŸ”₯, published by TRIN,  Nov 12, 2021
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SU= Southern University (Baton Rouge, Louisiana)


1. Uhhh, Are You Ok?, 2021
"IMO, I think all HBCUs should adopt the SNS cheer style."
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SNS= stomp & shake
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2.  Brandon B., 2021
"Just for basketball games… I know none of our SWAC schools have sns style cheerleaders… We have more of the mousy type cheerleaders lol"

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3. G T, 2021
"Watch more WSSU but I get it (CIAA) southeast excel in stomp shack cheer (leave it to us) SWAC excel with dance, we leave it to y’all!"
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“stomp shack” is a typo for stomp and shake”
"Dance" here probably refers to (majorette) dance lines, auxiliary to the university's marching band.
 
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4. Raven Broadway
"Lmfao stop hating. Southern University excels in ALL areas."

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WSSU = Winston Salem State University, Winston Salem, North Carolina

SAU= Saint Augustine University, Raleigh, North Carolina

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision -May 26, 2022

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series which corrects the mistaken belief that stomp & shake cheerleading is the cheer style that is performed at every historically Black college and university (HBCU).

This post showcases a 2020 YouTube video of a cheer battle between cheer squads from two universities in North Carolina. This post also presents information about the CIAA, SWAC, and MEAC 
collegiate athletic conferences.

In addition, this pancocojams posts presents 
selected comments on stomp and shake cheerleading from a 2005 hbcusports.com discussion thread and a 2014 hbcusports.com discussion thread.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp_25.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a YouTube video of Southern University's Blue Chips stomp & shake cheerleading team. That post also presents comments from various YouTube discussion threads  about stomp & shake cheerleading in different regions of the United States.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/correcting-mistaken-belief-that-stomp_92.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a 2022 of a stomp & shake  cheer battle between Texas Southern University located in Houston, Texas and Prairie View University located in Prairie View, Texas.

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All copyrights remain with their owners.   

Thanks to the cheerleading teams that are featured in this video, thanks to all those who are quoted in this post ,and thanks to the publisher of the video that is embedded in this post.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THREE COLLEGIATE ATHLETIC CONFERENCES

This information is provided since these conferences are repeatedly mentioned in the comments that are quoted in this post. 

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Central_Intercollegiate_Athletic_Association
"The Central Intercollegiate Athletic Association (CIAA) is a collegiate athletic conference, mostly consisting of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). CIAA institutions affiliate at the Division II level of the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA).[1]

The twelve member institutions reside primarily along the central portion of the East Coast of the United States, in the states of Pennsylvania, Maryland, Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina. Since a majority of the members are in North Carolina, the CIAA moved its headquarters to Charlotte, North Carolina from Hampton, Virginia in August 2015.[2]

The CIAA sponsors 14 annual championships and divides into north and south divisions for some sports. The most notable CIAA sponsored championship is the CIAA Basketball Tournament having become one of the largest college basketball events in the nation.[3]"...
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Click that link to read a list of the universities that are members of this athletic conference.

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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southwestern_Athletic_Conference
"The Southwestern Athletic Conference (SWAC) is a collegiate athletic conference headquartered in Birmingham, Alabama, which is made up of historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) in the Southern United States. It participates in the NCAA's Division I for all sports; in football, it participates in the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS), formerly referred to as Division I-AA.

The SWAC is widely considered the premier HBCU conference and ranks among the elite in the nation in terms of alumni affiliated with professional sports teams, particularly in football.[1] On the gridiron, the conference has been the biggest draw on the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS) level of the NCAA, leading the nation in average home attendance every year except one since FCS has been in existence.[2][3] In 1994, the SWAC fell just 40,000 fans short of becoming the first non-Football Bowl Subdivision conference to attract one million fans to its home games.”…
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Click that link to read a list of the universities that are members of this athletic conference. 

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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mid-Eastern_Athletic_Conference
"The Mid-Eastern Athletic Conference (MEAC) is a collegiate athletic conference whose full members are historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs) in the Southeastern and the Mid-Atlantic United States. It participates in the National Collegiate Athletic Association's (NCAA) Division I, and in football, in the Football Championship Subdivision (FCS).[1]

Currently, the MEAC has automatic qualifying bids for NCAA postseason play in baseball (since 1994), men's basketball (since 1981), women's basketball (since 1982), softball (since 1995), men's and women's tennis (since 1998), and volleyball (since 1994). Bowling was officially sanctioned as a MEAC governed sport in 1999. Before that season, the MEAC was the first conference to secure NCAA sanctioning for women's bowling by adopting the club sport prior to the 1996–97 school year.

Region: South Atlantic, Middle Atlantic

Headquarters  Norfolk, Virginia”…
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Click that link to read a list of the universities that are members of this athletic conference.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THESE HUCUSPORTS.COM DISCUSSION THREADS

I included brief explanatory notes after a few of these comments.

Discussion #1 
From https://www.hbcusports.com/forums/threads/hbcu-cheeleading.34603/ HBCU cheeleading

Thread starter demondmccombs  Start date Jan 5, 2005

Jan 5, 2005

#1

"Yo... Why is it that the SWAC cheerleading teams follow the more...Well not to offend anyone but "White" style of cheerleading?

And the CIAA and MEAC teams or more northern school seem to do more of the Black Style of cheerleading with there teams? :kiss:

Not to knock either style because both are good at what they do...Because Southern Cheerleaders are top-noch and Winston-Salem are the best of the best.

We all kind of all follow the same rules.

Just wondering how this anomoli came about since were all HBCU's? :)"

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SLT

Jan 5, 2005

#2

"Clue me in, because I'm at a lost on this one.

What exactly is Black Style Cheerleading? :confused:"

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demondmccombs

Jan 5, 2005

#3

"The One...Two...Three. Style of cheerleading that lacks african rythems and technigues. Most teams in the SWAC I see do little to any black trademarks when they cheer. As far as adding in african-american technical skill in there performances.

The rarely ever perform the stomp/shake style of cheeleading that is traditional for the CIAA/MEAC schools. Most of these schools incoporate african rythem patterns in there cheers and motions. Almost impossible to emulate by any of our white courterparts. :jump:

For example: Black bands have handcraffed a style that is universally performed by all black schoools. The high-stepping showbandstyle of performance is a black paramount. All of our HBCU do the "black style" of marching. I really could not see our bands performing the boring "white" corp style. :) :) :) :)

MEAC/CIAA perform more of a black method of cheerleading that has been detailed to perfection. We pretty much follow the same rules as far as bands, greeks, activites, and so on being HBCU's. This is just a weird split?"

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Fortitude

Jan 5, 2005

#4

"Hmmm, really never thought about it. I think I understand what you're saying though but, I honestly don't know why. Your thread reminds me of how up north they have double-dutch jump competitons - something REALLY big up north but, I can barely jump w/one rope by myself let alone have 2 people turn it for me. Maybe an experienced southern cheerleader can shed light on this subject."

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demondmccombs

Jan 22, 2005

#6

Who is your black college cheerleading best? :)

HBCU Stomp/Shake

1.Winston-Salem State Universtiy

2. Johnson C. Smith Universtiy

3. North Carolina Central University

 

HBCU traditional

1. Morgan State Universtiy

2. Southern University

3. Grambling State University


Honorable mention

Virgina State University

North Carolina A&T University

Clark Atlanta University

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Jan 22, 2005

#7

SLT said:

Clue me in, because I'm at a lost on this one.

What exactly is Black Style Cheerleading? :confused:

Its GHETTO ass chants and ass shakin..... thats exactly what it is..... that aint cheering..... anybody can STOMP the floor and say some ghetto rhyming chant.

I went to the Legacy Classic... (a CIAA basketball tournament that is held at the Charlotte Coliseum during MLK weekend).... and thats all they did.... opposing cheerleading teams get up in each others face with LIL to NOTHING on and have ass shakin contest while stomping the floor... that is c**n cheerleading."

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demondmccombs

Jan 23, 2005

#8

"Its o.k. DAHill,

It's o.k. Alabama will catch up...you guys are always behind down there. c**n...Is that one of those words you learned while being chased by the Klan?

Once again you know nothing about cheerleading...I can tell by your comments. You call that "c**n Cheerleading". At least there not White wanna bee's.

And do you consider highstepping the c**n Style of Marching? Yes or No?"
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Pancocojams Editor's Note: This comment is written in response to a comment fromDAHILL that is no longer shown in that discussion thread. My guess is that c**n = coon 

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Dr. Phreeze

Jan 23, 2005

#10

Vinita said:

That a Black squad doing precision cheerleading is trying to white is about as narrow minded a train of thought as any.

:xeye: :p

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Tara

Jan 23, 2005

#11

"Well, I CAN speak from experience. I cheered three years in high school at a predominantly white high school where emphasis was placed on precision motions, advanced gymnastics skills, and difficult stunts and pyramids.

When I made the cheerleading squad at Prairie View A&M University, there were a few things that I had to get used to. The dances were a little more funkier, a lot of the girls did not have as extensive background in gymnastics that I did. However, we practiced hard, took the job seriously, performed many difficult stunts and pyramids. Are cheers and chants were NEVER ghetto."

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Golden Kitten

Feb 9, 2005

#17

"This topic was discussed recently on Onnidan...

http://onnidan.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=3;t=002615;p=2 

My own sense is that is doesn't take any skill to stand up and shake your @zzz. Nor do I consider that "black" cheerleading. What it says to me is that these folks are dancers perping as "cheerleaders". These folks have taken this to such an extreme that it was recently decreed by the CIAA that these "cheerleaders" can't even take the floor at bball games any more because of their conduct. What other conferences have cheerleaders who have names just like the dance troupes that perform with the band? If @zz shaking is black cheerleading, y'all can have it. :rolleyes:

http://onnidan.net/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=007917 "
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Nonchalant

Feb 9, 2005

#18

"LOL @ someone from Alabama calling anyone from the East Coast a "c**n". :lol:

I'd rather see the traditional style of cheering (JSU/Grambling/Southern) during football season and the CIAA-style during basketball season. Being basketball arenas are smaller than football stadiums the CIAA cheerleaders make the atmosphere live and crunk. I go to sleep during SWAC basketball games.

...Carry On.."

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DAHILL

Feb 9, 2005

#20

[quoting comment #18 and then responding]

shawty you swear you from NEW YORK or PHILLY.... Yo ass is from North Carolina..... if you think stomping and girating your ass is considered cheerleading then thats your business.... but I dont think it is cheerleading. There are some cheerleaders like that in the SWAC (Bama St basketball cheerleaders)... but when they came up here and played AAMU, it wasnt **** they could when AAMU was doing pyramids and flipping all over they asses. They would just come back with some GHETTO stomp and chant."

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Smiley

Feb 9, 2005

#21

"I will soon kick down the 30th year high school reunion real soon. I am from Dayton, OH and the black schools had really "Crunk" cheers and steps. There was not a whole lot of "Booty" shaking but there was not a lot of stiff stuff. You had to do lot of gymnastics with lots of rhythm and soul. Schools like Cincy Hughes, Toledo Scott, Louisville Central, etc where great. When I arrived at AAMU and attended my first football game I was in culture shock. The cheers and moves were very similar to what I expect from a Dayton Alter and Chaminade Julieanne, Cincy Moeller, University of Dayton, etc. While times have changed the cheering style has not changed much. I think cheering has moved closer to the other style because of $$$ in camps and competitions."

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AAMU = Alabama A&M University

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Nonchalant

Feb 10, 2005

#23

[quoting comment #21 and then responding]

"DAHILL, quit cryin, yo. North Carolina geographically is in the South as is Florida, VA and Maryland but culturally no. I'm not saying we're just like like Philly or NY but our culture (speech/lingo, our music, style of dress, education, fast pace way of life) is totally different from the South. The CIAA consists of schools from NC to MD which is the East Coast.

I find it funny how some of you can judge how they cheer and why they won't go to a National competition but what do you think would happen if one of your schools played a PWC in football and you brought one of your "c**n" bands. How do you think people from the West Coast and East Coast feel about the "Hooka Hooka", "Jiggalatin", "Bunnie Hop" and all those other slave jigs you do in the club in the South. lol Its whatever.

 ...Carry On.."
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PWC= Primarily White College

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DaGSUMan

Feb 10, 2005

#24

DAHILL said:

They would get laughed at with that ghetto mess.

GSU and SU always participates and never gets laughed at. GSU and SU create great stunts and pyramids and the next year you see the white schools doing them."
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GSU= Georgia State University (in Atlanta, Georgia)


SU= Southern University (in Baton Rouge, Louisiana) 

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DAHILL

Feb 11, 2005

#25

DaGSUMan said:

GSU and SU always participates and never gets laughed at. GSU and SU create great stunts and pyramids and the next year you see the white schools doing them.

you misunderstood me... I was referring to the jirating booty stomp cheerleaders"

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Justin

Feb 13, 2005

#27

DaGSUMan said:

If the CIAA/MEAC schools Cheerleaders are so good. Why is it that they don't participate for the NCA National Chapionship?

But they have. Morgan, UMES and AT&T have done it. And from what I've seen MEAC/CIAA are totally different. MEAC is a hybrid of technical and stomp and shake. You will see stomp and shake and stunting. CIAA is ALL stomp and shake.

Morgan and Morris Brown went to NCA's on numerous occasions. I've seen them in my cheering.

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demondmccombs

Feb 14, 2005

#28

NonChalant, I'm right here here with you girl!

NorthCak, VA, DC, and Maryland....are what we call the "Middle east" !

East coast all day but not the deep-south in attitude or lifestyle."...

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demondmccombs

Feb 14, 2005

#29

work it out

As far as cheerleading Johnson C. Smith Universtiy a stomp/shake -traditional team came in 10th at the 2000 NCA championship.

There is a time and a place NCA nationals is not the setting for throwin down. The rules and standards are clear. At your home gym. Don't ever let the other team get the best of you.

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demondmccombs

Mar 30, 2005

#35

Re: HBCU cheeleading (sorry so long)

kisskiss08 said:

Let me get this straight...so if they cheer on a NATIONALLY RECOGNIZED level, (in other words how its done in 90% of the world) then we are wanna be's? Let me clarify a few things....1) the rhyming/stomping thing is NOT cheerleading. Just because they wish it doesnt make it so. Thats just like the laker girls calling themselves cheerleader but yet to date they have yet to do a cheer. They just dance. Thats a DANCE TEAM. What the stepping/rhyming signifies....is a STEP TEAM. I have seen both, participated in both. Its a glorified dance off. I would not say you do not need any SKILL to do the latter but i will say that not many of them girls can come out and do a roundoff back handspring back tuck into a full extension. CHEERLEADING wheter you believe it or not is a DANGEROUS sport. (if you are any good).

Now for the GRAMBLING HAVING THE BEST SQUAD thing....true James is a GSU alumni, but WHERE IS HE NOW. Furthermore I do not recall GSU being nationally ranked in Black college nationals AS WELL AS NCA National competitions REPEATEDLY like SU. GSU you is good but dont GLORIFY them. I have yet to see one of them partake in that same stunt aforementioned. (by the way that is a normal stunt for su).

in conclusion...CHEERLEADING IS EXTREMELY DIFFICULT. The latter is just meant to be "fun" I guess. Its like comparing Street Ball to NCAA standards. It doesnt happen and is pointless. You cannot play streetball at duke, lsu or even at hbcu's. You will get fouled out, kicked out the game or worse off the team. With cheerleading you could not step/rhyme at a national competition they would laugh you off the stage!

Always with us...."The white way is the right Way!!!" :splat: :splat: :splat: :splat: :splat: :splat:

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06AggieCheer

Mar 31, 2005

#41

NC A&T is a MEAC school and they have competed in the NCA. If you have enough skill you don't have to cheer just one way. A&T does stomp & shake, tumbles, and stunts. They do coed stunting and all girl. Not many teams can do both. The stomp & shake cheerleading is so precise if "white teams" saw it they probably would be amazed!

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Discussion #2

WARNING: This discussion thread includes some profanity. However, those comments aren't quoted in this excerpt. The comments that are quoted from earlier comments are given in italics.

From https://www.hbcusports.com/forums/threads/southern-jackson-state-you-gets-no-respect-in-here.118763/ Southern-Jackson State YOU GETS NO RESPECT IN HERE!!

getuprams [discussion thread starter]

Sep 11, 2014 
 
#11

DallasCowboyGirl said:
“So where were they at a non-Greek Step Show because that was not cheerleading!

Yes It's Cheerleading! It has a name it's called Stomp-n-Shake and WSSU is one of the originators of the style, It's VERY popular in NC\VA\DC\MD\TN"

"The CIAA is famous for its Cheerleading which is SnS as oppsed to "White Girl Go Fight Win"!!

The CIAA Cheerleading Exhibition last cheer drew over 8,000 people!

 cheerleaders is a perky, always smiling, female who fits a particular body mold.

 However, in the late 1970s, a new style of cheerleading emerged in North Carolina and Virginia. This African American originated style of cheerleading is called “Stomp n Shake”. Stomp n Shake cheerleaders have the same goals as “traditional cheerleaders” — to motivate their sports team and raise the enthusiasm of fans. However, Stomp n Shake uses African American dance/stepping aesthetics
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The words given in italics were given that way in that comment.

The portion of that comment which begins with the words "...cheerleaders is a perky..." is a (unattributed) quote from me (which I wrote either for my (now retired) cocojams.com website, or the socioimages post that I authored in 2011,  or from a previous pancocojams post that I wrote about stomp & shake cheerleading.

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DallasCowboyGirl

Sep 11, 2014

#12

"Country Ghetto!"

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getuprams

Sep 11, 2014

#13

Regardless of your denial, Go Fight WIN DOES NOT excite a black crowd. I don't know why SWAC squads continue to use there imitation NCA style of cheerleading. It's just not INTERESTING to black people!

Cheerleading battles are a major factor in CIAA sporting events, much like Dance Lines are in the SWAC!

I guarantee you WSSU fans react more to WSSU's cheers than Southern's does when they stunt"

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getuprams

Sep 11, 2014

#14

DallasCowboyGirl said:

Country Ghetto!

 GIRL YOU LIVE IN THE DEEP SOUTH!!!! We're East Coast! LOL

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 icey23

 Sep 11, 2014

 #15

"still ghetto in my book. Ghetto phi Stomp n Shake"
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"Ghetto Phi" is a negative adaptation of one of the names that Winston-Salem State University cheerleaders have used for their cheerleading squads.

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Get ready

Sep 11, 2014

#16

Boy yall be getting it

 http://youtu.be/XkpOiVssR0s

 You really need to teach this style of cheering in the SWAC

Thats just hot and mean

Get it girl shake it

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DallasCowboyGirl

Sep 11, 2014

#22

getuprams said:

GIRL YOU LIVE IN THE DEEP SOUTH!!!! We're East Coast! LOL

 

I guess they don't teach geography at WSSU...Texas is not in the deep South (it is Southwestern) Florida is deep South...Oh and (in my highest pitch) C-Phi!

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Get Ready

 Sep 12, 2014

#23

DallasCowboyGirl said:

I guess they don't teach geography at WSSU...Texas is not in the deep South (it is Southwestern) Florida is deep South...Oh and (in my highest pitch) C-Phi!

Florida is NOT considered the deep south

Dont listen to her GR

She a hater

https://www.hbcusports.com/forums/threads/southern-jackson-state-you-gets-no-respect-in-here.118763/page-2

Dr. Phreeze

Sep. 12, 2014

 #35

GramblingMan2009 said:

Who would have thought I would see a thread on cheerleading on the SWACPage

No Damn Body...

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jsupop33

Sep 12, 2014

#35

 GramblingMan2009 said:

Who would have thought I would see a thread on cheerleading on the SWACPage

Sad day in America huh

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J-State2DaPoint

Sep 12, 2014

 #38

GramblingMan2009 said:

Who would have thought I would see a thread on cheerleading on the SWACPage.

Correction: Hbcusports.com

Its a new day. :smh:

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