Comments About Homosexuality In A YouTube Discussion Thread For A Video Of An Igbo Traditional Dance Group

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of a contemporary Igbo (Nigeria) traditional dance group: Ofu Obi Cultural Group.

This post also highlights selected comments about homosexuality and comments about other perceptions of contemporary Igbo culture from that at video's discussion thread.

The Addendum to this post documents comments about adding Western musical instruments and dance steps to traditional Igbo music.

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The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to this showcased group, thanks to all those who are quoted in this post, and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
As a reminder, I consider certain comments from online discussion threads to be worthy of archiving and sharing because they document some of the opinions, attitudes, perceptions, and/or customs of a particular society or population.

This compilation isn't meant to imply that these comments are widespread in that society. Also, these comments aren't meant to represent my opinions, attitudes, and/or perceptions about this subject.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: TOP 10 IGBO CULTURAL DANCE. (OFUOBI CULTURAL DANCE GROUP UDI 2)



UGWUMBA TV, Published on Jun 29, 2017

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SELECTED COMMENTS (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)
1. Ebi Opuengu, 2017
"Are you sure these men are not gay?"

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2. Agus, 2017
"So what? Most importantly they are humans."

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3. John O, 2017
"Ebi Opuengu don't mind them, our Igbo people always want to copy other cultures. I hate obama for bringing this gay sh&t* to Africa"
-snip-
This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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4. chidi micheal, 2017
"what's ur business whom they are? enemies of good things. leave them and their lives. are u God? Mr. judge"

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5. Uche, 2017
"John O sorry? What? Obama brought homosexuality to Africa? Biko come and go...homosexuality was is Africa long before Obama was even born. And you will proudly sit there and say that America has so much influence that their former president affected a whole entire continent. Bye"
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"Obama" here undoubtedly refers to former United States President Barack Obama.

According to http://naijalingo.com/words/b/alphabet "biko" is an Igbo word meaning "please".

My guess is that "Biko come and go" is a Nigerian (Igbo?) saying that means something like "Things that were once standard/acceptable change over time." [Corrections are welcome.]

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6. John O, 2017
"Uche but it’s true that if not for Obama you will not support homosexuality. It’s true."

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7. John O, 2017
"Uche please don't copy white people in everything please, they are savages."

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Uche, 2017
"John O that is the dumbest thing I've heard all day. Like honestly, you should really try to get out more and not base all your facts from facebook posts"

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8. John O, 2017
"Uche I don't have Facebook nne"
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"nne"= Igbo word meaning "sister"

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9. John O, 2017
"Uche homosexuality is not in our culture nne."

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10. olamide orelesi, 2017
"John O my friend please... you’re not thinking straight because homosexuality was in Africa way before Obama even was born. You’re a bad representation of Igbo. You’re making your people look as if they don’t know anything. Obama hasn’t preached anything to Igbo people . He was the president of AMERICA not Nigeria. Focus on the corruption that’s going on there now. You’re worrying about a FORMER president like is it by force ? Come on.. you’re supposed to be a Christian and yet you’re saying death to people who have done nothing to you ? Where did you get the information that England will be Islamic? And even so is that ur wahala ? Come on... this is sad you’re not representing us well at all
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from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wahala_(Yoruba)
"Wahala" pronounced (wa-ha-la) is the meaning of (Trouble) or (problem) used by the Yoruba tribe and commonly used throughout Nigeria.

Etymology : A word common in the Yoruba Language of Nigeria."

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11. John O, 2017
"olamide orelesi are you even igbo? If you are can you tell me the word for homosexuality in igbo? How can homosexuality be igbo culture when there is no word for it. There is even a word for it in hausa but not igbo. Why do my people like copying white people soo much? Especially our women. That's why you ladies marry outside ethnicity more that us men. We got to preserve what our ancestors gave us we loosing our language too. I bet you don't speak igbo. Igbo women self with that all your beauties you don't know how to preserve a culture."

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12. Uche, 2017
"John O it's EVERYWHERE! Please stop making igbo people look bad and uneducated on social media. Don't believe me? Look it up.. homosexuality was in Africa way before the USA was factor"

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13. olamide orelesi, 2017
"John O okay I am half Igbo please don’t let my name confuse you. And I didn’t say homosexuality was in the IGBO CULTURE I said it’s in AFRICA . And the funny thing you don’t even know if they’re gay. Like at all. They might just be really sassy or into it. So now you’re just assuming things because someone said something. As a Christian we shouldn’t judge."

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14. Uche, 2017
"Anyways, you don't even know if these guys are even gay sef"
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From http://www.ngex.com/personalities/babawilly/dictionary/pidgins.htm Nigerian Pidgin English Dictionary
"Sef: 1. In particular e.g. You sef. 2. Placed at end of question when irritated or impatient e.g. Wetin sef?"

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15. John O, 2017
"Uche tell me the one word for homosexuality in igbo. There is none. The best you get to literal translation is "men sleeping with men". Why are you attacking me go ask our elders if we practiced this nonsense back in the day. You igbo women get is in trouble especially when yall marry outside our ethnic group."

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16. John O, 2017
"olamide orelesi just leave the protection, security, and preservation of our culture, homeland, and people to us igbo men. Your role is to be our good wives have our babies help us to build igboland and not betray us. Simple

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17. John O, 2017
"Uche i bet you've never been to igboland."

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18. Uche, 2017
"John O of course I have. Have you been out of Nigeria? Anyways, may God bless you and deliver you from stupidity IJN. AMEN."

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19. olamide orelesi, 2017
"John O lmao you’re a fool honestly. I was not made to make babies for a man. I’m made for greatness. My purpose is to serve a man. You’re so stuck in ur ways you’re not even thinking correct like come on. I am going to be a pediatric surgeon by the grace of God so please understand that only a weak man looks for a submissive woman . You can’t handle a real woman who can think for herself. Please go read some books. Simple"

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20. John O, 2017
"Uche I live in Texas and I know that we are loosing our culture and language we don't need to add degenerate things to it nne Biko."

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21. John O, 2017
"olamide orelesi yes you are going to be a pediatric surgeon in jesus amen. But you will be a wife for a igbo man and you will have kids for him and you will be submissive to him. And he will love you. How hard is that? Why do people choose to make live so complicated. Igbo culture is patriarchy."

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22. olamide orelesi, 2017
"John O if it is God’s will for me to marry an Igbo man than so be it but we will work together and have a good marriage . You’re probably one of those men who will beat their wife 🤦🏾‍♀️"

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23. John O
"olamide orelesi i have 2 sisters and a mom. I will never do that to women."

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24. nwa mama, 2017
"Patriarchy is detrimental to the Igbo race. Matriarchy is better all around. Africa use to be matriarchal before Islam and Christianity came to ruin it. Patriarchy comes with rape, pillage, subjugation, psychological problems etc."

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25. John O, 2017
"nwa mama give me prove of this or go back to the kitchen. Igbos was never Islamic. Our culture is patriarchy"

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26. Blvck Pantheress, 2017
"HOMOSEXUALITY is a learned behaviour and a choice. It has never existed in Africa, as you can see there is no native word for homosexuality."

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27. Kik LeBraVo HOOZY, 2018
"😂😂😂😂:

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28. Ikukundu, 2018
"Ebi Opuengu never say such in igbo land. Our men are perfectionists in everything they do that's why you think theyre gay because they do it so well. No theyre not . Thats western"

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29. Grace Thames, 2018
"You seem to be replying a Yoruba woman. OLAMIDE is Yorubaa"

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30. John O, 2018
"Grace Thames yea, why are yorubas in every Igbo videos?"

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31. Jensenbaby, 2018
"Ebi Opuengu stupid irrational comment. It is a particular kind of dance, hence the costume and dance. It has nothing to do with sexuality. Your mind is perverted."

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32. John O, 2017
"why do some of them look gay I do t lime that."

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33. Agus, 2017
"Look, act, are, so what? They are humans like you and me."

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34. nnennem, 2017
"They can look however they want thanks. Keep on stepping, you must be gay too, it takes one to know one."

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35. chidi micheal
"+John O
I love their dance. it is not easy"

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36. chidi micheal
"John John O, does it mean there is no gay in Africa or precise Nigeria? Jesus Christ came for the sinners not the righteous.
What those guys displaying is part of female dance and u can't dance it without twisting ur West like female. sometimes males can dance it better than females. But, professional females dance it best.
in Igbo land Imo, Abia, Rivers, Anambra, Ebony, etc have different ways of cultural dance. In IMO, each village have different ways of dancing too. such as Bungo, Atiluokwu, etc. i can't point hands on them if they are gay or not. even if they are. is not my business. gay exist everywhere. is a choice or life style people found themselves. allow God to judge. in the God's site, they may be better than u. learn how to accommodate people, no human is perfect. we all pray to God to lead urs and have Marcy on us regardless of our ups and downs. I love their Igbo dance. Igbos are unique in all ramifications. even they are been marginalized, humiliated and suppressed. But one thing some people don't understand is that u can't hide light. that is why Igbos need independent to show the world what they have. I believe God it shall come to pass someday. all hail Biafra. I love Biafrans. John is an English name and o stand for what? are u really an Igbo Guy? than display ur really name. if u are, then who made a judge over ur people. a real man doesn't cast a stone in his family. God forbid, I can't castigate my real Biafrans (Igbo) brothers and sisters in a public. it is a taboo. examine urself john"

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37. Jessy Amazing, 2017
"John O please guys stop this I know this group dancers they from my village they are not gal they are just dancers"

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38. luke god, 2018
"john 0. how do you look ? does their look affects their career? you are a dream killer if you dont like the dancers and their music."

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39. luke god, 2018
"even if they are gay is no one business cos i know they never ask anyone for gay sex"

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40. luke god, 2018
"whats your business with gays answer me?"

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41. John O, 2018
"luke god bia nwokem calm down. Igbo remains Igbo no matter what you say."

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42. coco sandy, 2017
"In simple English can someone tell me y this men look like women?"

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43. Jessy Amazing, 2017
"coco sandy because there are dancers"

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44. John O, 2018
"coco sandy exactly"

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45. Eli Ash, 2018
"Because the dance is supposed to make them look like girls, but dance like men"

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46. Yaa Moremi Queen, 2018
"coco sandy how"

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47. Lord of Lords, 2018
"coco sandy , because, you have to be beautiful in order to attract people while you dance skillfully like a man which you are."

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48. SylviasWorld, 2017
"I enjoyed this but I've noticed a lot of Igbo male dancers are quite feminine or 'camp' and these ones especially the first of the ones in blue (30.25)even have lipstick on. Why is this? I'm Igbo myself but I've recently noticed this."

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49. nnennem, 2017
"SylviasWorld then you don't know your culture at all. I ma igbo asu, ka m jugodi ajuju"

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50. SylviasWorld, 2017
"nnennem what is cultural about men in Igboland wearing lipstick or being effeminate? Since you claim I don't know my culture then you can explain. Its a handful of effeminate guys here, the rest are not and all the same it's a great dance.The only time I am aware of Igbo men purposely presenting as women us with Adamma masquerade."

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51. simplyuneeke, 2018
"Thats because you are viewing it from an European aspect. Dance is art, there is no masculine or feminine in the igbo dance steps or attire. When we decided to dance this way we didnt say this makes you feminine so dance this way no, every igbo man or woman dance with their whole body including waist and dress same if not similar when dancing."

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52. Eva Odum, 2018
"Since I was a kid seeing effeminate men as well a masculine men dancing beautifully has always been a cultural thing."

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53. ifeoma okonkwo, 2018
"Wait why are dey on lipstick and eyeshadow"

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54. kizzylegend michael, 2018
"i love our space teeth nd smiling when danceing
maybe dats y people says dat der are gay"

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55. kizzylegend michael, 2018
"igbo boys re too cute even without makeups"

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56. luke god, 2018
"so much energy on this boys love the dance so much for those that complain about lips stick or feminine do not watch them if you dont like them they do what they know how to do so keep your comments if you dont know what to say thanks very much UDI cultural dance."

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ADDENDUM
I also found the comments about the inclusion of Western musical instruments and/or dance steps in this performance to be interesting.

Here are all of the comments [as of this date] about those subjects from that same discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes)
1. Douglas Nosike Ibekeme, 2017
"I hate it when typical igbo songs are played with piano or guitar. It irritates me to the highest. Let's keep it raw like it used to be.
I love our culture."

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2. ifeoma okonkwo, 2018
"Douglas Nosike Ibekeme me too, it's takes away the originality"

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3. sodiari ubani, 2017
"14:14 When you mix modern dance into your cultural one ( Guy with the blue head band to the left)"

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4. rotawo, 2018
"well his a dancer, thats his job, he probably does hiphop on the side"

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5. sodiari ubani, 2018
"yep, and that's why he is lit.
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“lit” = African American Vernacular English word meaning "very good"

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E O, 2018, 2018
"Lol the piano sounds so bad with the music"

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3Ebere Eze, 2018
"If the igbo people can produce ngelenge which is from a tree found in igbo land, all igbo children will be happy. Stop using gitar, IT is not part of igbo culture."

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Stop This Inhumane Zero Tolerance Policy Of Forced Child Separation From Parents/Caretakers At The United States Border!!

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information and commentary about the forced separation of children from their parents or caretakers who are fleeing violence in their home countries and seeking asylum in the United States.

The content of this post is presented for historical and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are striving to change this inhumane policy. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.

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ARTICLES AND SELECTED COMMENTS
#1. Full article with selected comments:
From https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/17/1772681/--The-child-started-screaming-and-vomiting-and-crying-hysterically-the-effects-of-Trump-s-new-policy
"The child started screaming and vomiting and crying hysterically'–the effects of Trump's new policy

Hunter
Daily Kos Staff
Sunday June 17, 2018 · 2:09 PM EDT
"The Texas Monthly has an important interview with Anne Chandler, of the Children's Border Project, describing not only the legal manipulations the Trump administration used to launch their new policy of child separation at the border, but the immediate effects. And the effects of what is happening are horrific. Read it. https://www.texasmonthly.com/news/whats-really-happening-asylum-seeking-families-separated/

That’s one we see again and again. “Your child needs to come with me for a bath.” The child goes off, and in a half an hour, twenty minutes, the parent inquires, “Where is my five-year-old?” “Where’s my seven-year-old?” “This is a long bath.” And they say, “You won’t be seeing your child again.” Sometimes mothers—I was talking to one mother, and she said, “Don’t take my child away,” and the child started screaming and vomiting and crying hysterically, and she asked the officers, “Can I at least have five minutes to console her?” They said no.

The scarring from these separations is going to be lifelong, which makes it urgent that the policy be ended immediately. And despite White House spin–even this administration is fully aware of how monstrous the policy makes them look, and has been furiously trying to shift blame elsewhere–the policy was carefully crafted by Jeff Sessions and the White House to get around current laws and international treaties protecting the refugees.

Many of them then look for Border Patrol to turn themselves in, because they know they’re going to ask for asylum. And under this government theory—you know, in the past, we’ve had international treaties, right? Statutes which codified the right of asylum seekers to ask for asylum. Right? Article 31 of the Refugee Convention clearly says that it is improper for any state to use criminal laws that could deter asylum seekers as long as that asylum seeker is asking for asylum within a reasonable amount of time.

Under international law, asylum seekers may present themselves at the border and the nation is obliged to consider that request. But the administration is both slow-walking asylum requests at legal points of entry and prosecuting asylum-seekers who present themselves to Border Patrol agents anywhere else along the border–using the misdemeanor crime of undocumented entry to imprison those refugee parents, then declaring their children to be "unaccompanied" due to that imprisonment and placing them in detention camps. And there's no assurance that the children thus stripped from their parents will be returned, period. It is cheap regulatory flam-flam meant to provide cover for a willful–and White House admitted–policy of traumatizing children for the sake of "deterring" future refugees, and it is an international human rights crime.

It is unforgivable, and not a single official implementing these policies should be allowed to work in government ever again. From senator to ICE officer to mewing pundit defending child separation as mechanism for frightening future refugees into choosing some nation other than America or for extracting anti-immigrant "concessions" from administration opponents, we cannot claim to be a decent nation unless we purge every enabler of human rights abuses from our national ranks, and permanently. We are not a fascist country; we will not go down that odious path so willingly."

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Selected comments from this Daily Kos article, with numbers added for referencing purposes only:
1. Lomakatsi June 17 · 04:33:41 PM
"Trump and his lackeys, elected and otherwise, are architects of this atrocity, no question. But all Americans will own it if we do not stand strongly enough against it to end it."

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2. Carolla June 17 · 04:27:11 PM
..."Why would these immigrants think, even imagine, the United States of America, given the principles it has long upheld, would suddenly have turned its back on international law and protections for asylum seekers? What we are doing is beyond cruel."

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3. formerlyMartha reply to Brubs June 17 · 06:11:32 PM
"I’m sorry. It’s NOT new to us. We did this to slaves; we did this to Native Americans. Less onerously, we did it to the Japanese."

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4. nomandates June 17 · 03:57:18 PM
[quoting tweets in response to a commenter writing that he didn't believe the story about children being separated from their parents/caretakers by telling those parents/caretakers that the children were being taken to get baths.]
Kumail Nanjiani

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@kumailn
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Replying to @kumailn
There are going to be people, many people, who will be able to justify separating children from their families. They’ll say the words they need to say to justify it. Forget those people. Those people are hopeless. We have to rally and motivate everyone else. Appeal to humanity.

Kumail Nanjiani
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@kumailn
The biggest defense they have is that what they are doing is so horrific that you look like a fool talking about it. It’s beyond the pale. It’s easy to dismiss because how could it really be this bad?

It is. It’s that bad. We cannot be the good Germans.

1:12 PM - Jun 17, 2018
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Kumail Nanjiani
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@kumailn
I don’t know what to do. Evil is being done right now and we are afraid to get too loud. This moment in time will define us for generations.

And people will say I am being dramatic. And I say: you are part of the problem.

12:48 PM - Jun 17, 2018
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5. Amaze June 17 · 05:31:54 PM
"I remember traveling through JFK airport right after the 1st World Trade Centre attack with my then 3 yr old daughter. Going through customs and immigration at the airport was terrifying. My daughter was so frightened she screamed and had a complete hysterical breakdown at the whole intimidating atmosphere created by all the grim armed guards and the rottweilers and german shepherds who were loose and roaming amongst all the passengers in the customs hall — and we are dog lovers… And I was holding her all of the time — unlike these poor children not even allowed to be touched and comforted in their abject terror .

I’m still traumatized by this experience, so I can’t even begin to imagine the abject terror of these families and their children ripped from them in such calculated, cold, cruel and un-necessary actions.

I can’t begin to imagine what these families are escaping from to come to the USA nor what their terrifying journeys have been like before they are then separated at the boarder and incarcerated…..

This is EVIL.

This MUST be stooped — NOW."

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6. Carolla Amaze June 17 · 05:44:58 PM
"I agree. I am a former psychotherapist and specialized in working with adults traumatized as children. I am a survivor myself, both of childhood and adult trauma. My heart wrenches and stomach wretches at the thought of the utter terror these children are experiencing and the impact it will have on them for the rest of their lives. It is so, so horrific. I think of the words on the Statue of Liberty, words which brought tears to my eyes when I first heard them, young and idealistic, because I believed they represented the beating heart of America, like a calling to be there for others. America, the land of immigrants, of hope. This separation policy is so shocking, so shameful. It sickens me."

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#2. Article Excerpt
From https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/index.cfm/2018/6/feinstein-colleagues-introduce-legislation-to-halt-separation-of-immigrant-families Feinstein, Colleagues Introduce Legislation to Halt Separation of Immigrant Families
Jun 08 2018
"Washington—Senate Judiciary Committee Ranking Member Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) and 31 of her colleagues have introduced legislation to keep immigrant families together by preventing the Department of Homeland Security from taking children from their parents at the border.

The Keep Families Together Act was developed in consultation with child welfare experts to ensure the federal government is acting in the best interest of children. The bill is supported by the American Academy of Pediatrics, Kids In Need of Defense (KIND), Coalition for Humane Immigrant Rights of Los Angeles (CHIRLA), Children’s Law Center, Young Center for Immigrant Rights and the Women's Refugee Commission.

[Update June 18, 2018 7:32 PM- This bill is co-sponsored by all United States Democratic Senators, but to date, there's not a single Republican Senator co-sponsor.]

“The United States must not be a country that traumatizes young children by separating them from their parents. Young children have been taken from their parents’ arms and federal law enforcement hasn’t given parents even the most basic information about their children’s whereabouts,” Feinstein said. “Congress has a moral obligation to take a stand and say that families should not be forcibly separated. Many of these families are fleeing terrible violence, traveling thousands of miles on foot for the chance to file an asylum claim and save their lives. To traumatize them further is unconscionable, and I hope that our Republican colleagues will work with us to put an end to this immoral policy.”

“Let me be clear: there is no law requiring this Administration to separate children from their parents—Attorney General Sessions and Secretary Nielsen are choosing to tear families apart to intimidate those who are lawfully seeking asylum in our country. It’s extreme, heartbreaking, un-American, and has to stop,” said Durbin.

“Separating children from their parents is both cruel and immoral,” said Bennet. “These families are fleeing violence and instability and leaving their homes in search of safety and security. The administration’s inhumane separation policy exacerbates the trauma these children and their parents face. It also does nothing to make us safer and violates what we stand for as a country. Congress must take a stand and end this policy immediately.”

“These children are being ripped from the arms of their parents for one reason: to terrorize them,” said Blumenthal. “This policy is deeply cruel and fundamentally antithetical to our values, as Americans and as decent human beings. Congress cannot stand idly by – we must stand up against this senseless, punishing policy.”

“Matthew 25 calls to care for the least among us, including welcoming strangers in our land. This administration, however, is callously choosing to enforce a policy that not only targets vulnerable migrants who are fleeing unspeakable violence in their home countries, but also inflicts further trauma by separating children from their parents,” said Carper. “This is a completely unacceptable policy in any nation, let alone one that has, for centuries, led the world by example. It is unprecedented, it is cruel, it is entirely unnecessary and it must stop. The legislation I have introduced with my House and Senate colleagues would keep families from being needlessly ripped apart, which is, without a question, the right and humane thing to do.”

“This administration’s policy of separating children and parents at the border speaks of their inhumanity and does not reflect our values as a nation,” said Cortez Masto. “Most of these families are fleeing extreme violence and come here because their lives are threatened. I urge my colleagues to act now and support this legislation. Congress cannot stand idly by while an overwhelming number of children stay in crowded detention facilities and their parents are left in the dark as to their whereabouts and wellbeing.”

“Ripping children from the arms of their parents is not border security,” said Harris. “Our government should keep families together not tear them apart. This policy can result in lasting trauma for those children and their parents. We can keep America safe without being callous.”

“My mom brought my brother and me to this country when I was only seven years old. All of our possessions were packed into a single suitcase and we shared a single room. But at least we had each other,” Hirono said. “The Trump administration’s new policy of separating immigrant children from their families is reprehensible and unconscionable. This bill stops ICE from taking this unnecessary and cruel action.”

“The Trump Administration’s policies trample on American values by tearing families apart and demonizing people seeking refuge,” Kaine said. “This bill is an effort to protect kids from unnecessary harm by keeping families together and putting in place safeguards for children who have been separated from their parents.”

“America cannot just live by its national values when convenient – it has to be a full-time commitment,” said King. “The DHS policy that purposely separates children from their parents falls far short of our principles, and it should be stopped immediately.”

“There is simply no way sanitize the cruelty of the Trump Administration’s policy of forcibly separating families at the border,” said Leahy. “The anguish we are inflicting is evident in the story of each parent who is losing a child — parents who often are fleeing indescribable violence in their home counties. Americans must stand together in condemning family separation, and I am proud to support this legislation to put a stop to it.”

“We are not going to stand by as the Trump Administration continues to find ways to forcibly separate immigrant families from seeking refuge in our country – pulling a child from a mother seeking asylum in our country is wrong,” said Menendez. “We have a responsibility to ensure children and families are able to apply for asylum, trafficking protection and other specialized forms of relief without the paralyzing fear of being separated and shipped off to different facilities across the country. Only in the Trump era would forcibly tearing children away from their parents be considered an acceptable policy to uphold our values as a nation of immigrants. This is shameful, un-American and must stop.”

“This administration is choosing to use the suffering of children and families as political leverage. Let’s not go any further,” said Schatz. “Every single member of Congress should be on this bill, because every single member should be against separating children from their parents. It is inhumane, immoral, and un-American.”

“Separating children from their parents at the border, many of them coming here desperate to escape the terrible violence in their countries, is a policy that is directly at odds with the fundamental values of this nation,” said Warner. “This unprecedented and inhumane practice has been condemned by the U.N., is not rooted in any law, and could end today should President Trump choose to do so. Instead, the president has used this new policy to terrorize innocent families as a means of deterring those who are legally seeking asylum in our country. In the absence of moral leadership from the White House, Congress should make it clear that the United States of America will continue to stand proud as a country welcoming of those seeking refuge from violence, poverty, and prejudice.

“Because of President Trump’s cruel immigration agenda, children are being torn out of the arms of their mothers,” said Warren. “Many of these families are fleeing persecution and violence, and seeking refuge in our borders. Ripping families apart is immoral and un-American. I’m glad to work with Senator Feinstein to put a stop to this dangerous Administration policy.”

“The American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) urges an immediate end to the policy that separates children from their parents at the border. Separating children from their parents contradicts everything we stand for as pediatricians – protecting and promoting children’s health. We know that highly-stressful experiences, like family separation, can cause irreparable harm to children’s health, disrupting their brain architecture and affecting short- and long-term health. The Keep Families Together Act takes important steps forward to protect families, and the AAP thanks Senator Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) for her leadership on this issue,” said American Academy of Pediatrics President Colleen Kraft MD, MBA, FAAP.

On May 7, 2018, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced that all adults who arrive at the border would be prosecuted for illegal entry, even if they attempt to seek asylum. This policy, which has never before been pursued, has resulted in parents being separated from their children.

Prosecuting individuals who are seeking asylum may also violate the United States’ obligations under international law, including the U.N. convention on refugees and its Protocol.

At a May 24, 2018, Senate Judiciary Committee hearing, Customs and Border Protection informed Senator Feinstein that 658 children were taken from 638 parents during a 14-day period in May, an average of 47 children being taken from their parents each day.

To ensure the bill protects the welfare of children, it allows children to be separated from their parents only in the event they are being trafficked or abused by their parents. To provide an additional layer of protection, the bill provides for an immediate review by a superior upon the recommendation to separate, and only after consultation with a child welfare expert."....

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From http://www.palmerreport.com/analysis/laura-bush-demolishes-trump/10885/ Former First Lady Laura Bush demolishes Donald Trump
Bill Palmer | 11:01 pm EDT June 17, 2018
..."Laura Bush is calling out Donald Trump for forcibly separating immigrant kids from their parents and placing them in shoddy housing ranging from a former Walmart to tent cities, calling it “cruel” and “immoral.” She’s comparing Donald Trump’s treatment of immigrant children to the Japanese internment camps of World War II, which she refers to as “one of the most shameful episodes in U.S. history.”

Mrs. Bush said this of the inhumane conditions: “while there were beds, toys, crayons, a playground and diaper changes, the people working at the shelter had been instructed not to pick up or touch the children to comfort them. Imagine not being able to pick up a child who is not yet out of diapers.” She also added that “If we are truly that country, then it is our obligation to reunite these detained children with their parents — and to stop separating parents and children in the first place.”

Donald Trump has admitted that he’s been rounding up the immigrant kids so he can use them as a bargaining chip to try to force Congress to cave to the rest of his failed legislative agenda. It’s becoming more clear by the day that he severely miscalculated. Instead of working as leverage in his favor, the immigrant child concentration camps have become a nationwide rallying cry against him."...

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From https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/6/17/1772618/-Child-Internment-may-soon-become-the-worst-American-atrocity-in-a-Century Child Internment may soon become the worst American atrocity in a Century

Frank Vyan Walton
Community
Sunday June 17, 2018 · 11:04 AM EDT
"We thought America had grown into a country that was no longer capable of inhumane atrocities. We thought that events such as the Trail of Tears where U.S. States and Presidents implemented a forced migration of nearly 120,000 native Americans whose lands were then given to white farmers which subjected thousands to diseases such as whooping cough, typhus, dysentery, cholera and, starvation which killed between 5,000-8,500 along the journey. We never thought we’d ever see anything like the Tuskegee Experiment where 600 African-American men were given placebos instead of penicillin for their diagnosis of syphilis in order to track the progress of the disease from blindness to insanity and ultimately their death. We never thought we’d ever commit another atrocity like the forced internment of Japanese Americans during WWII which took 117,000 people, most of whom were American citizens, out of their homes, confiscated their property and held them in captivity for years.

Now, today, in 21st Century America our government is constructing tent cities on U.S. Military property in order to house the children of immigrants who have been forcibly separated from their parents as they crossed the border, regardless of whether they did so legally or not.

If that seems hyperbolic, I frankly believe it’s probably an understatement of how devastating and deadly this situation could possibly become.

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We know that as opposed to the unaccompanied minors who tend to spend an average of 41 days in these facilities the newly separating children are traumatized and unruly and the length of their potential stays are indeterminate while their parents work their way through the justice system and may ultimately be deported without them.

There is no way that these Tent Cities, which are being erected in the middles of the Texas summer, are going to be better handled and safer environments for these children than the HHS centers.

On top of being emotionally scarred, these kids are going to quickly be a severe risk for health conditions. Some of them, I would suspect far more than 14% among the 12,000 that are currently in custody are likely to be seriously harmed or die— which is about 1,640 just slightly higher than the 1,500 of kids they’ve already “lost” — under these overcrowded and harsh conditions.

Again, I don’t think that’s hyperbolic. I think it’s quite deliberate. The Trumpsters are trying to create “maximum pain” and discomfort and then dump the blame for all of this magically into the laps of Democrats either to force them to commit to funding Trump’s wall and/or to hammer over their heads leading into the 2018 mid-terms.

It’s a cold, calculated political act using the lives and health of children as bargaining chips in a larger game of “chicken.”

The fact that we haven’t already seen massive, deafening demonstrations in protest of this callous cruelty against children is a national disgrace.

We thought we were better than this but obviously, we are not. We thought America was better than this but obviously, it is not.

Not until we stand up and make it better. Not until we stand up and refuse to let America fall yet again down this dark rabbit hole. We have to speak up, we have to defend the defenseless, and push back hard on the lies and deception of the Trumpsters.

This was their choice, we have to rise up and take that choice away from them because they clearly can't be trusted."

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#5- Article Excerpt [Added June 18, 2018]
https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/democrats-border-immigrant-families_us_5b272986e4b0f9178a9e5945 06/18/2018 T
Dems Beg GOP For Help Stopping Immigrant Family Separations
Lawmakers traveled to the Rio Grande Valley on Father’s Day to call for a policy change.
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By Elise Foley
"BROWNSVILLE, Texas ― Eight Democratic lawmakers visited the Rio Grande Valley on Sunday to try one of their only options for fighting President Donald Trump’s policy of separating families at the border: Speak out and hope their Republican colleagues pay attention.

Trump could single-handedly end the practice of splitting up families at the border, but Democrats have little hope he will halt a policy that he thinks will deter unauthorized immigration and win him leverage for a border wall and a broader immigration crackdown. And Republicans in Congress have done little to pressure the president to change his mind.

That means that until Democrats control the House or Senate, all they can do is raise hell.

“If we can build the public pressure, then maybe [House Speaker] Paul Ryan will rediscover his spine,” Rep. Mark Pocan (D-Wis.) said after touring a facility holding children apprehended at the border, some of whom were separated from their parents. “That’s something that we’re going to work on. But for the time being, we’re going to have to endure this terrible policy and make sure that the kids aren’t terribly scarred [by] it.” "...

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Horace Silver Quintet - "Song For My Father" (Jazz composition video with selected comments)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information about American Jazz musician Horace Silver and showcases his composition "Song For My Father".

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Horace Silver and his accompanying musicians for their musical legacy and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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And, to quote a comment by Anna Fisher, 2017 from the discussion thread of this showcased video:
"Happy Father's Day, fathers and also to the mothers who take on both roles. Blessings always! One love <3" **** INFORMATION ABOUT HORACE SILVER From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Silver
"Horace Ward Martin Tavares Silver (September 2, 1928 – June 18, 2014) was an American jazz pianist, composer, and arranger, particularly in the hard bop style that he helped pioneer in the 1950s.

After playing tenor saxophone and piano at school in Connecticut, Silver got his break on piano when his trio was recruited by Stan Getz in 1950. Silver soon moved to New York City, where he developed a reputation as a composer and for his bluesy playing. Frequent sideman recordings in the mid-1950s helped further, but it was his work with the Jazz Messengers, co-led by Art Blakey, that brought both his writing and playing most attention. Their Horace Silver and the Jazz Messengers album contained Silver's first hit, "The Preacher". After leaving Blakey in 1956, Silver formed his own quintet, with what became the standard small group line-up of tenor saxophone, trumpet, piano, bass, and drums. Their public performances and frequent recordings for Blue Note Records increased Silver's popularity, even through changes of personnel. His most successful album was Song for My Father, made with two iterations of the quintet in 1963 and 1964.

Several changes occurred in the early 1970s: Silver disbanded his group to spend more time with his wife and to concentrate on composing; he included lyrics in his recordings; and his interest in spiritualism developed. The last two of these were often combined, resulting in commercially unsuccessful releases such as The United States of Mind series. Silver left Blue Note after 28 years, founded his own record label, and scaled back his touring in the 1980s, relying in part on royalties from his compositions for income. In 1993, he returned to major record labels, releasing five albums before gradually withdrawing from public view because of health problems.

As a player, Silver transitioned from bebop to hard bop by stressing melody rather than complex harmony, and combined clean and often humorous right-hand lines with darker notes and chords in a near-perpetual left-hand rumble. His compositions similarly emphasized catchy melodies, but often also contained dissonant harmonies. Many of his varied repertoire of songs, including "Doodlin'", "Peace", and "Sister Sadie", became jazz standards that are still widely played. His considerable legacy encompasses his influence on other pianists and composers, and the development of young jazz talents who appeared in his bands over the course of four decades.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Horace Silver Quintet - Song For My Father



ukvibeorg, Published on Apr 9, 2012

Recorded live in Copenhagen, Denmark, April 1968. Song for My Father was recorded in October 1964 and released on the Blue Note label. The album was inspired by a trip that Silver had made to Brazil. The cover artwork features a photograph of Silver's father, John Tavares Silva, to whom the title song was dedicated. "My mother was of Irish and Negro descent, my father of Portuguese origin", Silver recalls in the liner notes, "He was born on the island of Maio, one of the Cape Verde Islands." The album line-up differs from the Copenhagen musicians here.
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)
1. ukvibeorg, 2012
"One of the best pieces of modal jazz. Thanks for the words."

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2. Burney Warren, 2013
"incredible song and performance... one of my favorites. thanks for sharing with us."

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3. king7allah, 2013
"OMG Horace is the MAN!!!!!"

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4. Chuck M, 2013
"So beautiful, wonderful and soulful."

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5. bela varga, 2013
"My absolute favorite jazz standard. Amazing!"

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6. michael morphites, 2013
"who is the guy on sax here please? i much prefer junior cook and henderson to this chap. is it maupin? still a blistering performance from all involved. thanks."

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7. ukvibeorg, 2013
"Yes indeed it was Bennie Maupin on tenor sax. Bill Hardman trumpet, Johnny Williams bass and Billy Cobham drums."

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8. John Sund, 2013
"Great stuff. The end part of Maupin's solo becomes especially imaginative - but these guys just give 100% - beautiful playing!"

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9. Brendan Blosser-McGinnis, 2013
"That drummer is feelin it"

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10. Victor Vazquez, 2013
"Wikipedia Notes:Jazz standard, "Song for My Father" original form. Bossa Nova F-minor w/ an AAB head, w/a trumpet & tenor sax play in harmony. Song's noticeable impact in pop music: Opening bass piano notes borrowed by Steely Dan for "Rikki Don't Lose That Number",: Opening horn riff borrowed by Stevie Wonder for "Don't You Worry 'Bout a Thing". Earth Wind & Fire borrowed opening bass notes for "Clover". Paull Weller noted he 'nicked 'the chords The Style Council's 1984 'Me Ship Came In'"

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11. R D JAZZBOY, 2013
"Absolutely brilliant! better than the album recording."

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12. richardvilseck, 2013
"Too fast."

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13. R D JAZZBOY, 2013
"+richardvilseck
Well, it is faster, but it still swings like crazy so I don't have a problem. If you want to hear a classic that is way to fast in live performance, check out Take Five, live at Carnegie Hall. St. Germain actually used the intro as a sample for their Tourist album."

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14. Lumina Pacifica, 2013
"RIP Horace Silver. He was a dear friend for over 34 years and one of the most enlightened and gifted souls on this planet. This man and his music, that poured from the depth of his heart, deserve to be celebrated."

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15. Theo Connell, 2013
"Wow, what a tremendous version. Horace, RIP! Great composer, band leader, player."

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16. a oneiill, 2014
"just simply, purely, wonderful, inspired, definitive and timeless"

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17. Ed Macomber, 2014
"Share many fond memories of Horace, and fortunate enough to know Roger Humphries, one of Horace's classic drummers. I get a kick out of watching a left handed drummer handle his kit. This is superb, thanks."

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18. lifesoboring1, 2014
"This has to be one of the liveliest, coolest jazz numbers I have heard."

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19. Todd From Work, 2014
"If musicians were compensated on skill alone, these men would be billionaires."

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20. MrMusicguyma, 2014
"I'm not primarily a jazzer, but I am an "appreciator" of any music with guts and soul. This song has always appealed to me, along with Cannonball Adderly's stuff, Sonny Rollins "St Thomas" et al. It seems to me that when bop took a left turn from singable melodies and dance tempos, to create music for solely for "musicians", Jazz cut off its nose to spite its face, and it has never regained popular appeal. I hear that today less than 1% of public buys jazz, that is a pity. America's non-commercial musics are often the most heartfelt, I find. I'd like to see jazz increase in our public consciousness."

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21. Gil Daniel, 2018
"MrMusicguyma as (somewhat of) a musician I find the fact that there's a whole genre dedicated to my "kind" very interesting. This "musician's music" been very important for my improvement and also, most of the time, quite fun listening.
Also I dont think it's strictly for musicians, just because it's sometimes not too melodic doesn't mean the "average" man cannot understand it. I give much credit to non-musicians... They can appreciate the more "hard core" jazz no less then any pro."

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22. Barakx8, 2014
"Well, it DOES get better, but this is right up there with the best!"

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23. The World As It Is, 2014
"Love this version! It is so masterful!"

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24. Jim Neely, 2014
"Horace Silver the legend... this recording "Song for My Father" was the essential tune for
all jazz enthusiasts in the late 60's and beyond. This video shows Mr. Silver's actual sweat
falling on the piano keys. Silver's intensity while playing was unmatched. IT DOES NOT GET BETTER THAN THIS!!"

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25. makjazz7, 2014
"ohhhh my gosh....he's a beaat"

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26. Intoxicholic, 2014
"Does anyone know if the old Portuguese folk music they're talking about is somewhere online? Probably not. Worth a question anyway I guess."

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27. Bill Weiner, 2014
"+Intoxicholic Check out Portuguese Fado music. Has a lot in common feeling with jazz and blues roots. Sensuous."

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28. Intoxicholic, 2016
"+Bill Weiner Thanks, will do."

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29. caponsacchi, 2016
"This rigid riff is to Horace what "C-Jam Blues" is to Duke, a lesser tune useful in an introduction to playing jazz class. Duke's tune invites more freedom, swing and soul. Hardman's solo is the highlight of Horace's authoritarian, restrictive drill, making the most of it. Maupin the Oedipal son who overthrows it."

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30. tom knoll, 2016
"One of my favorite pianists...the man, the legend...and one of his best songs...brilliant..."

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31. Don Stanford, 2016
"This has got to be the badist (how ever you spell it) video I've ever seen. That's what you call jamming."

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32. Reiner Tarzan, 2016
"Theis must be one of the juwels of jazz history. What a genius , Horace Silver. Incredible how he aligns about twenty
variations on the tune, none like the other, all unique!"

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33. Willie Jordan, 2016
"I never get tired of hearing this. I particularly like the trumpet solo from Bill Hardman. He was just another in a very long list of underappreciated talents. But he could blow with the best of 'em. I'd put him against Freddie Hubbard, Lee Morgan, Booker Little, and Donald Byrd any ol' day of the week and feel fairly certain that he'd come out on top. No one could outplay him."

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34. Zapatogrande, 2016
"Whew! Man when they kick it into the double time during the piano solo, this thing smokes and takes off even more so - Cobham is on fire. As I listen to this it is approximately 49 years after the concert was recorded and it just sound so good! Who cares if it's in black and white - we get it, ¿no? Dig the comping behind the trumpet and tenor solos - pushed the rhythm even more so.

The double time behind Mr. Maupin seems to push him even more so and then there is the almost out of time reflection towards the end of his solo , which then segues into a fast 4/4 exposition of the tune for a bit, while Mr. Silver lays out for a bit -WOW what a wonderful treatment of the song overall, just going where someone would not expect it to go.

And just when you thought that they were finished. Mr.Silver rides it out for some more - wonderful group empathy all over. It lives in this modern day and time as a very unique treatment by the composer."

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35. RealBro, 2017
"Thank God the Europeans recorded a lot of jazz musicians! We are fortunate to have this treasure trove of live performances when these geniuses were in their stride...."

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36. Willie Jordan, 2017
"If it's possible this live version improves on the recorded version because of the trumpet solo (there is no trumpet solo on the recorded version) by Bill Hardman. His solo is a play over-and-over again piece of music!"

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37. Gene Trujillo, 2018
"With a left hand like that you hardly need a rhythm section! You have to love someone who literally drips sweat when they play. What a beast!"

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38. mpar91, 2018
"Genuine masterpiece...I also play in tribute to my Father, Granfathers, and Great Grandfathers. Much respect to the Legendary Horace Silver. Rest In Peace and Power to the artist and them all.🙏"

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39. Jim Brown, 2018
"I got to hear Horace's quintets a couple of times, first in around 1961, again 10-15 years later. He played with an energy I've heard matched only by McCoy Tyner. Contrary to what you might have heard, THEY were the hardest working men in show biz! The ensemble playing is pretty ragged here as compared to what they sounded like on a good night, but Horace sounds great!"

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40. Charles Duckett Jr., 2018
"My one time to see Horace live was at Fat Tuesday's in NYC, maybe 1990?? The band was super pro & tight. They seemed relaxed but played with complete precision on every tune. Solos were fairly short but burning. Oops, I just remembered that I saw Horace play trio one time too, at the Village Gate I think."

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41. Garvey Pollard, 2018
"i love cobham but its hard to beat roger humphries' drums on the album. some of the best drums ever played..ever."

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42. M. M., 2018
"Great to watch this and especially to see a very young Billy Cobham-- interesting to see him playing fluidly on a ride cymbal to his left with his left hand--- I saw him years after Mahavishnu literally from directly above, amazing seat huh, in a medium sized club that had a full surround balcony so you could actually sit above and behind and still see the band, he was much more right hand dominant then doing a lot of his ride work with his right hand - he also dropped a lot of sticks!! which actually made me feel good --- I'm a drummer and it always freaked me out when I'd drop a stick,,,, but not anymore."

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43. Charles Duckett Jr., 2018
"Horace quotes the Wes Montgomery tune "Road Song" in his solo at 4:08. Intentional? Subliminal? It is a simple lick, possibly random. I doubt that though. Horace knew Wes. Helped put Wes on the "map" when he sat in with Horace's group and blew people away. Not sure what year, I would guess late 50's."

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44. Umohibom Ette, 2018
"Hard bop at it’s finest. Much love."

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45. Ewerb7, 2018
"Just wonderful! Great playing all around. Classic footage of a wonderful performance. God, how I love jazz!"

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46. richard von schiltz, 2018
"It is most wonderful for a musician of very high caliber to give honor to his father. Loving one's father and announcing that publicly for Horace speaks volumes to me. Thank you! This is also one of my favorite pieces that Silver so beautifully portrays."

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Depiction Of Jesus As White And Depiction Of Satan As Black In The Official YouTube Video Of The 2001 Ivory Coast Song "Victoire" By Petit Yodé & L'Enfant Siro

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases the Côte d’Ivoire’s 2001 Zouglou song ("Victory") by Petit Yodé & L'Enfant Siro.

Information about is Petit Yodé & L'Enfant Siro is also included in this post along with some of the comments from this official video's discussion thread that refer to the video's depiction of Jesus as White and Satan as Black.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to for this song and thanks to all others who performed in this video. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT PETIT YODE AND l'ENFANT SIRO
From http://www.afrisson.com/Petit-Yode-et-l-Enfant-Siro-14131.html Biographie Discographie Petit Yodé et l’Enfant Siro
Groupes | Côte d’Ivoire | Création : 2000 | Styles : Zouglou par Sylvie Clerfeuille 4 septembre 2014 - © Afrisson
"Anciens membres du groupe Poussins chocs, Dali Djédjé Gervais alias Petit Yodé et l’Enfant Siro ont formé un duo au début des années 2000 et se se sont faits connaitre par plusieurs tubes de zouglou comme "1er jour à Paris", "la vie c’est mollo" et "Sign’Zo".
Poussins chocs

Petit Yodé a connu un grand succès dans le pays dans les années 1990 alors qu’il était membre du groupe "Poussins chocs" dont faisait également partie L’Enfant Siro, Leur grand tube de l’époque est le titre "Asec-Kotoko" parle de l’histoire tragique entre le Ghana et la Côte d’Ivoire après un match entre l’ASEC Mimosas et l’Asante Kotoko en Ligue des champions dans les années 1990).

Petit Yodé & L’Enfant Siro

A la séparation des Poussins chocs suite au décès de Fifi Django, Petit Yodé et L’Enfant Siro forme un duo devenu célèbre dans les années 2000 avec trois albums : Victoire (2001) qui évoque avec ironie la situation économique et politique du pays, Antilaléca comportant les tubes "1er jour à Paris" "et "la vie c’est mollo" puis Signoz parlant de l’effet des signes du zodiaque sur le comportement .

Petit Yodé et l’Enfant Siro on chanté pour la paix en Côte d’Ivoire avec des nombreux artistes de zouglou (Bagnon, Pat Sako d’Espoir 2000, Collectif 1+1, Collectif BCG,"....by Sylvie Clerfeuille 4 September 2014 - © Afrisson
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[Google translation from French to English, given "as is" with no changes to standard conversational American English]
Groups | Ivory Coast | Creation: 2000 | Styles: Zouglou
"Former members of the group Chicks Shocks, Dali Djédjé Gervais alias Petit Yodé and Child Siro formed a duet in the early 2000s and made themselves known by several tubes of zouglou as "1st day in Paris", "the life 'is soft' and 'Sign'Zo'.

Chicks

Petit Yodé was a big success in the country in the 1990s when he was a member of the group "Chicks shock" which was also part of The Child Siro, Their big hit of the time is the title "Asec-Kotoko" talks about the tragic history between Ghana and Ivory Coast after a match between ASEC Mimosas and Asante Kotoko in the Champions League in the 1990s).

Little Yodé & The Child Siro

At the separation of the chicks shock following the death of Fifi Django, Petit Yodé and The Child Siro forms a duet become famous in the years 2000 with three albums: Victoire (2001) which evokes with irony the economic and political situation of the country, Antilaléca with the tubes "1st day in Paris" and "life is soft" then Signoz speaking about the effect of signs of the zodiac on the behavior.

Petit Yodé and the Enfant Siro we sang for peace in Ivory Coast with many zouglou artists (Bagnon, Pat Sako d'Espoir 2000, Collective 1 + 1, Collectif BCG, ...).

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: petit yodé et l'enfant siro : victoire



Fromcotedivoire, Published on Jan 14, 2009

jesus va te tolo
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With two exceptions #47 and #48 which ask & respond to the question "What does this song mean in English?", this compilation highlights some of the numerous comments in this video's discussion thread about that video's depictions of Jesus as White and Satan as Black.

I also couldn't refrain from commenting in this discussion [#21].

French is the language that is used for most of the comments in that entire discussion thread and in this compilation. I've added Google translations from French to English after those comments that are included in this compilation.

Numbers are assigned to these comments for referencing purposes only. I've included explanatory notes for a few of these comments after their translations.

1. akinboade, 2009
"c'est nul que leur jesus soit blanc. jesus n'étais pas blanc, un mensonge occidental de plus. sinon toujours aussi drole cette chanson"
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"it is bad that their Jesus is white. Jesus was not white, another Western lie. if not always so funny this song

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2. Himmide Williams, 2009
"whether Jesus is white or black, when we all died we will go to hell or heaven it doesn't matter whether you'r black white or yellow (Asian). God is not white or black, people please stop whorshping white people."

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3. candygirl86, 2012
"The whites have finally succeeded to convince us that Jesus is white and satan is a black man. This is just sad."

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4. Paula Salvador, 2009
"Je me permets juste une remarque ..
Satan est habillé en noir car il représente le mal qui est souvent associé a cette couleur ! Jesus est habillé en blanc car il représente la pureté ( ca ne veut pas dire que les blancs st bien et les noirs mauvais) .Je trouve que t'as un peu tord de penser like that. Perso, jai vu ce clip pr la 1st time a 10 ans et sa ne m'as pas marqué niveau mentalité! A mon avis c'est juste pour la symbolique."
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"I just allow myself a remark ..
Satan is dressed in black because he represents the evil that is often associated with this color! Jesus is dressed in white because it represents purity (it does not mean that whites are good and bad blacks). I think you're a little wrong to think like that. Personally, I saw this clip for the 1st time at 10 years and it did not score me mentality level! In my opinion it's just for the symbolic."

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5. ctadcor, 2010
"jesus est blanc et satan est noir. La colonisation a laisse ses traces sur nous tous les noirs d'Afrique. Dans la Bible, le Satan n'a jamais ete represente comme un noir.
Mais bon, le clip en lui est tres bien, surtout la melodie"
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"Jesus is white and satan is black. Colonization has left its mark on us all blacks in Africa. In the Bible, Satan has never been represented as black.
But hey, the clip in him is very good, especially the melody"

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6. gary durand, 2011
"@ctadcor d'ailleur dans cette même bible il n'a jamais été dis que jésus était blanc :D
nice clip anyway"
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"@ctadcor from elsewhere in this same Bible it was never said that Jesus was white: :D
nice clip anyway"

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7. Frederic ouattara, 2012
"@ctadcor il est marrocain pas blanc, donc c'est un african"
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"@ctadcor he is Moroccan not white, so it's an african"

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8. etrecurieux29, 2013
"pour ton info fabienking, celui que vous appelez jésus était noir, donc celui de la vidéo kil soit blanc ou arabe c pareil il ne représente pas le vrai Yeshoua, donc c toi l'IMBECILE"
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"for your info fabienking, the one you call jesus was black, so that of the video kil either white or arabic c it does not represent the true Yeshua, so you c the IMBECILE"

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9. CharoCommando, 2011
"Lol . Mrrrdddd Jesus est un Shao-Lin?? très amusante"
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"Lol. Mrrrdddd Jesus is a Shao-Lin ?? very amusing"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shaolin_Kung_Fu
"Shaolin Kung Fu (Chinese: 少林功夫; pinyin: Shàolín gōng fu), also called Shaolin Wushu (少林武術; Shàolín wǔshù) or Shaolin quan (少林拳; Shàolín quán), is one of the oldest, largest, and most famous styles of wushu or kungfu. It combines Zen Buddhism and martial arts and originated and was developed in the Shaolin temple in Henan province, China during its 1500-year history. Popular sayings in Chinese folklore related to this practice include "All martial arts under heaven originated from Shaolin" and "Shaolin kung fu is the best under heaven," indicating the influence of Shaolin kung fu among martial arts. The name Shaolin is also used as a brand for the so-called external styles of kung fu. Many styles in southern and northern China use the name Shaolin."...

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10. cuahtelmoc, 2011
"Rien de tout ça.Il dit que l'un est arrivé dans un kimono blanc et l'autre dans un kimono noir.Il n'a pas dit que l'un était de peau blanche et l'autre de peau noire..Pourquoi voir le racisme partout?quand meme!"
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"None of that.He says that one came in a white kimono and the other in a black kimono.He did not say that one was white skin and the other was black skinned.Why? to see racism everywhere ... anyway!"

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11. guy morel, 2013
"vraiment, j'ai rigoler et ça fait plus de cinq ans que je l'ai pas écouté. MAIS JE NE SAVAIS PAS QUE JÉSUS était "mauritanien ceinture noir 8eme danne"
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"I really laughed and it's been over five years since I listened to him. BUT I DID NOT KNOW THAT JESUS was "Mauritanian black belt 8th danne"

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12. Gaetan Junior Keya, 2013
"Qui vous a dit que Satan est noire? Tres drole!."
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"Who told you that Satan is black? Very funny!"

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13. olivier julienne, 2014
"Arrêtez vos commentaires débiles; c'est plutôt sympa comme chanson.....Emancipate yourselfs from mental slavery!"
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"Stop your stupid comments; it's pretty cool as a song ..... Emancipate yourselfs from mental slavery!"

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14. Dedhy diego manucho alvares, 2014
"quel blanc un libanais waiiiiiii!!!!!!!!"
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"what white a Lebanese waiiiiiii !!!!!!!!"

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15. Said Abed, 2015
"+Dedhy diego manucho alvares Il est né à Bethleem en palestine donc il devait plus ressembler à un libanais qu'à autre chose"
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"+ Dedhy diego manucho alvares He was born in Bethlehem in Palestine so he was more like a Lebanese than anything else"

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16. Dedhy diego manucho alvares, 2015
"+Said Abed
lool,mort de rire tu l'a 1 fois vus Jesus, ou tu te bases sur les mensonges de ces connards de blancs ???"
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"+ Said Abed
lool, death of laughter you've seen Jesus once, or you're based on the lies of these assholes white ???"

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17. Dedhy diego manucho alvares, 2015
"laisse les se mentir eux même ,,,"
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"let them lie themselves,"

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18. Bryce Mbassa, 2015
"c'est vous les complexé il pris le nir pour satan parce que c'est prince des ténebre et pour mieux le representer on prend un personnage qui se rapproche du noir s'il n'avaitpas de noir il devait prendre un blanc et l'enduir de couleur noir c'est vous qui identifiez au noir et qui etes complexé et vous prnnez tout pour une offanse meme ce qui ne l'est pas...!"
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"it is you complexed it took the nir for satan because it is prince of the darkness and to better represent it one takes a character who approaches the black if he did not have black he had to take a white and the to smear in black color it is you who identify with the black and who are complexed and you prnner everything for an offsafe even what is not it ...!"

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19. Medullia Madulla, 2015
"Je pense qu'il y en a qui n'ont pas compris le clip. En effet Jésus est "blanc" et Satan est "noir".
On voit que Jésus est sale, édenté et noir "c'est le mal" = (selon de clip) il ne faut pas suivre son exemple. C'est peut être comme ça que certains européens voyais les ivoiriens à l'époque ou les ivoiriens eux-même qui se voyaient comme ça qui sait. A l'opposé Jésus est bien coiffé,immaculé et porte des Sebago ( une marque française de chaussure).
Plusieurs villes ou quartiers sont cités, des personnes sont venues de ces lieux pour assister au combat. Le phénomène n'était pas local mais étendu. Je vais peut être trop loin mais cela montre que la population a assisté, a cautionné et a adhéré à ce changement de culture (peut-être impuissante).
C'est juste une sorte d’autodérision pour montrer comment la culture ivoirienne et les ivoiriens étaient rabaissés à l'époque et que la culture européenne était un modèle.
Mais à travers la musique et la danse, comme le montre le clip, une parti de la culture à pu subsister malgré tout."
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"I think there are some who did not understand the clip. Indeed Jesus is "white" and Satan is "black".
We see that Jesus is dirty, toothless and black "it's evil" = (according to clip) we must not follow his example. This is perhaps how some Europeans saw the Ivorians at the time or the Ivorians themselves who saw themselves as who knows. On the opposite side, Jesus is well coiffed, immaculate and wears Sebago (a French shoe brand).

Several cities or neighborhoods are mentioned, people came from these places to watch the fight. The phenomenon was not local but extensive. I may go too far, but it shows that people have attended, supported and adhered to this change of culture (perhaps powerless).
It's just a kind of self-deprecation to show how Ivorian culture and Ivorians were belittled at the time and that European culture was a model.
But through music and dance, as shown in the clip, a party of culture could survive anyway."

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20. Jola Mimicri, 2015
"Medullia Madulla tu as tout dit"
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"Medullia Madulla you said it all"

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21. Azizi Powell, 2018
"I'm an African American who speaks no French. I learned about this song from numerous commenters in the discussion thread for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OInajwCmEnA "MzVee ft Yemi Alade - Come and See My Moda (Official Video)". The commenters said that that song sounds like Victoire's "Petit Yodé".

Whether they song [correction: "sound"] alike or not isn't my reason for commenting here.

First of all, I want to thank YouTube for introducing me and so many others to African music.

I used the Google translate feature to translate this comment exchange (and some others) from French to English. Here are the results I got:

[The English translation is inserted here.]ish translation after EAEAD -s
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I think that in the second sentence of Medullia Madulla's comment he (or she) meant to write "We see Satan as dirty, toothless and black "it's evil."

Thanks again and One Love!
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Pancocojams Editor: Here's another correction of what I wrote in that comment on that YouTube discussion thread: I mistakenly gave the artist's name as "Victorie". The artists names are Petit Yodé and L'Enfant Siro and the song's name is “Victoire”.

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22. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2015
"Mh!!! Satan noir et Jésus blanc... après c'est vous les mêmes là qui allez traiter les blancs de racistes et mauvais parce qu'ils voient tout ce qui mauvais en noir. Pitié nous noirs..."
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"Mh !!! Black Satan and White Jesus ... after that you are the same ones who go to treat whites of racists and bad because they see all that bad in black. Please us black ..."

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23. Inesnes1, 2015
"+MAMAN SO N'DAYE Exactement ce que ma mere viens de me dire. Elle me dit qu'elle aime beaucoup cette chanson, et autre, sauf la representation de Jesus et satan... Triste.."
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"+ MOM SO N'DAYE Exactly what my mother just told me. She tells me that she really loves this song, and other, except the representation of Jesus and satan ... Sad ..."

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24. Ngilane Ndao, 2015
"+Inesnes1 J'aime cette chanson trop mais je n'ai pas réellement respecter image qu'ils ont donné au peuple noir et blanc les gens et si vous voulez vraiment être véridiques et vrai Jésus était noir et l'Antéchrist ressemble à un blanc Cheveux blonds aux yeux bleus homme que les gens prétendent être Jésus même dans le Coran dans la Bible décrire Jésus avec sèche de laine comme un homme noir pas cheveux soyeux comme homme blanc"
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"+ From Inesnes1 I love this song too much but I do not really respect the image they gave the people black and white people and if you really want to be truthful and true Jesus was black and the antichrist looks like a white hair blue-eyed blond man that people claim to be Jesus even in the Qur'an in the Bible describe Jesus with dry wool like a black man not silky hair like white man"

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25. dini guer, 2016
"C'est ' ignorance rien d autre..mais d'accord avec vous et d ailleur oui Jesus etait Noir!!"
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"It's' ignorance nothing else..but agree with you and yes yes Jesus was black !!"

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26. koko baloucci, 2016
"ne prend pas sa au serieux c'est juste un amusement"
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"do not take it seriously it's just a fun"

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27. Marilyn Teddy, 2016
"MAMAN SO N'DAYE mdr deja faut bien regardé le gar en jesus il est plutot mauritanien faut regardé avnt de Parler cest vous qui stigmatiser tout piff"
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"MOM SO N'DAYE mdr already had to look at the boy in jesus he is rather Mauritanian must have looked before talking is it you who stigmatize any piff"

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28. Hause Yuyu, 2016
"Marilyn Teddy de quel couleur est sa couleur de peau le mauritanien ???"
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"Marilyn Teddy what color is his skin color Mauritanian ???"

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29. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2016
"Qu'il soit mauritanien ou pas, il s'agit là de la peau claire contre la peau noire. Déjà on compare la peau blanche à la pureté et la noire au malheur. Voilà pourquoi nos sœurs noires sont complexées et se donnent parfois à la dépigmentation. Si nous même en tant que africains nous ne donnons pas de la valeur à notre propre couleur de peau, et nous faisons ces genres de plaisanterie, comment voulons nous que l'homme blanc nous respecte ?"
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"Whether Mauritanian or not, this is clear skin against black skin. Already we compare white skin to purity and black to unhappiness. This is why our black sisters are complexed and sometimes give themselves to depigmentation. If we as Africans do not value our own skin color, and we do these kinds of jokes, how do we want the white man to respect us?"

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30. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2016
"Qu'il soit rouge, orange, ou vert... il représente l'homme blanc puis qu'il est quand même clair. J'ai jamais parlé de nationalité mais plutôt de la couleur de peau
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"Whether it's red, orange, or green ... he represents the white man and he is still clear. I never spoke about nationality but rather skin color"

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31. Achille_ Nestor, 2018
"Ngile Ndao je pense que c'est une mise en scène un scénario loin de la question de race.."
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Ngilane Ndao I think it's a staged scenario far from the race question ...

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32. Rab Kil, 2015
"Que jesus ne soit pas noir c'est normal il était hébreu, arrêtez de voir du racisme partout. J'adore cette chanson."
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"That Jesus is not black is normal Hebrew, stop seeing racism everywhere. I love this song."

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33. Antoinette Biloa, 2015
"+Rab Kil et que satan soit noir c'est normal ? imbécile !"
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+ Rab Kil and that satan is black is normal? fool!

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34. Rab Kil, 2015
"Leur logique c'est que Satan est noir comme du charbon parce qu'il est en enfer, la logique n'est pas que l'africain est mauvais comme Satan, réfléchis un peu.Le comédien jouant Satan s'est peint avec une peinture noire si tu a remarqué, même s'il avaient pris un européen, il se serait peint en noir de toute façon. Arrêtez maintenant, dénoncez un racisme qui n'existe pas, ne fait qu'entretenir le racisme!"
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"Their logic is that Satan is black like coal because he is in hell, the logic is not that the African is bad like Satan, think a little.The actor playing Satan painted himself with a painting black if you noticed, even if he had taken a European, he would have painted black anyway. Stop now, denounce racism that does not exist, only perpetuate racism!"

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35. Toure Ladji Mh, 2015
"+Antoinette Biloa lool"

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36. adjovy, 2015
"+Antoinette Biloa loooool hihihi"

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37. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2015
"+Antoinette Biloa Bien dit ma sœur."
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"+ Antoinette Biloa Well said my sister."

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38. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2015
"+Rab Kil On n'a pas besoin d’ etre forcement noir pour faire le mal. Donc ils pouvaient bien représenter Satan comme blanc avec de mauvais mobiles. Et ça réussi tjrs !!! Dans le clip ou les deux étaient représentés comme des noirs ou comme des blancs."
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+ Rab Kil One does not have to be black enough to do bad things. So they could well represent Satan as white with bad motives. And it always succeeds !!! In the clip or both were represented as blacks or as whites."

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39. MarzaLinsolente, 2015
"Regardez moi ca c'est quoi ce délire ? Jésus blanc et satan noir ? Comment cette vidéo a pu être diffusé à l'époque ca n'a choqué personne ? DU N'IMPORTE QUOI CONNARD d'aliéné"
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"Look at me what is this delirium? White Jesus and black satan? How was this video released at the time that did not shock anyone? FROM ANYTHING CONNARD of alienated"

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40. princesse dejes, 2015
"Soyez simple parfois .. N'importe qui aurait pu jouer n'importe quel role que ca n'aurait rien change'. Vous-meme en les insultant, vous montrez que vous n'etes pas differente d'eux si jamais c'est le complexe d'inferiorite' qui les a inspire's
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"Be simple sometimes .. Anyone could have played any role that it would not have changed. By insulting them, you show that you are no diff erent from them if it is the inferiority complex that inspired them."

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41. Deeo Mauricette, 2016
"c'est juste pour riiiîi"
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"it's just for the sake of"

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42. MarzaLinsolente, 2016
"Bien sur que non, c'est une mentalité qu'on a mis dans la tetes des noirs et beaucoup y croient."
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"Of course not, it is a mentality that has been put in the heads of blacks and many believe it."

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43. MAMAN SO N'DAYE, 2016
"Merci MarzaLinsolente , Toi au moins tu sais de quoi il s'agit.
Nous qui vivons sur leur continent, nous savons de quoi on parle."
-snip-
"Thank you MarzaLinsolente, You at least know what it is.
We who live on their continent, we know what we are talking about."

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44. your highness, 2016
"Noir joue role de satan et blanc joue role de Jesus"
-snip-
"Black plays role of satan and white plays role of Jesus"

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45. BAPYonguk GukGuk, 2016
"Junior Davis alienation etait super grave a l'epoque !!! maintenant information est plus a notre portee avec internet aussi. Alienation s'en va un peu un peu. Le son est bon quand meme"
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"Junior Davis alienation was super serious at the time! now information is more to our reach with internet too. Alienation goes a little bit. The sound is good anyway"

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46. Lydia Ewande, 2016
"Junior Davis ce sont les séquelles de l'évangélisation colonialiste"
-snip-
"Junior Davis are the legacy of colonialist evangelization"

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47. CoraKäfer Marie, 2015
"can someone translate this in english please?"

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48. Paule Andrée Tokale, 2015
"+CoraKäfer Marie he recounts the battle between jesus and satan. the man in black is white and the satan is jesus . and at the end it's jesus who won the fight . This is the summary of the song"

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49. SIAKA KONE, 2015
"ho pauvre de vous yode et siro, vous chantez bien mais vous rejetez le bien en l'homme noir par la même occasion en vous même . vous montrez aux autres que satan est noir et ce teins noir vous l'avez . en conclusion le noir est satan donc vous et le blanc est jesus"
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"poor man of you yode and siro, you sing well but you reject the good in the black man at the same time in yourself. you show others that satan is black and that black has you. in conclusion the black is satan so you and the white is jesus"

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50. Ngilane Ndao, 2015
"J'aime cette chanson trop mais je n'ai pas réellement respecter image qu'ils ont donné au peuple noir et blanc les gens et si vous voulez vraiment être véridiques et vrai Jésus était noir et l'Antéchrist ressemble à un blanc Cheveux blonds aux yeux bleus homme que les gens prétendent être Jésus même dans le Coran dans la Bible décrire Jésus avec sèche de laine comme un homme noir pas cheveux soyeux comme homme blanc"
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"I love this song too much but I do not really respect the image they gave the people black and white people and if you really want to be truthful and true Jesus was black and the Antichrist looks like a white blond hair with blue-eyed man that people claim to be Jesus even in the Qur'an in the Bible describe Jesus with dry wool like a black man not silky hair like white man"
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"I love this song too much" = "I really like this song a lot".

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51. actu infos RAchou actu infos RAchou, 2016
"donc satan est noir et jésus est blanc?lol"
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"so satan is black and jesus is white? Lol"

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52. narcisse zida, 2016
"erreur la est que satan etait noire et jesus blank. xa devrait etre tt a fait le contraire."
-snip-
"error is that satan was black and blank jesus. x should be done the opposite."

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53. Paco bayo, 2016
"Pourquoi lutter contre le racisme en épargnant le dieu des raciste qui n'a choisi que les blancs pour propager son message, choisi en plus une blanche pour son fils, son peuple élu est blanc, et ses principaux représentants sur terre sont toujours des blancs
Les africains christianisés ou islamisés savent que l'Occident n'y est pour rien pour nos malheurs , non c'est satan le coupable lol"
-snip-
"Why fight against racism by sparing the racist god who chose only whites to spread his message, chose a white for his son, his chosen people is white, and his main representatives on earth are still white
Christianized or Islamized Africans know that the West has nothing to do with our misfortunes, no it is satan the culprit lol"

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54. Yohan Sanguy, 2017
"Paco bayo wsh your mouth c a clip"
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"Paco bayo wsh your mouth c a clip"

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55. LucibelleSuppafly !, 2018
"Que les Blancs??? La Reine de Sabbat, femme du Salomon est éthiopienne et Séphora la femme de Moise est noire. La sœur de Moise a été frappée de la peste par Dieu pour avoir proféré des paroles racistes sur elles. Le clip est mal fait, mais ne mélangeons pas tout...."
-snip-
"What whites ??? The Queen of the Sabbath, wife of the Solomon is Ethiopian and Zipporah the wife of Moses is black. Moses' sister was plagued by God for uttering racist words about them. The clip is poorly done, but do not mix everything ...."
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"What whites ??? The Queen of the Sabbath, wife of the Solomon is Ethiopian and Zipporah the wife of Moses is black. Moses' sister was plagued by God for uttering racist words about them. The clip is poorly done, but do not mix everything ...."

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56. mam gyver, 2017
"Quand je lis les commentaires les gens ne retiennent que l'histoire de la représentation du bien et du mal avec le noir en Satan et le blanc en Jesus. Mais c'est et ça reste de l'humour. Dédicace à la chorée les gars sont trop fort la fin donne envie de danser. J'ai bien aimé le clip ça me fait toujours rire. Prendre tous ça au sérieux c'est dommage"
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"When I read the comments people only remember the story of the representation of good and evil with the black in Satan and the white in Jesus. But it's and it's still humorous. Dedication to chorea guys are too strong the end makes you want to dance. I liked the clip that always makes me laugh. Take it all seriously"

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57. watchou franclin, 2018
"après plusieurs années quand je vois ce clip loin des émotion et hors mit la bonne qualité de la musique , le message vehiculer est idiot de notre part ,
il en résulte que finalement nous même on a accepte que le noir est une sous race ou tous ce qui est mauvais, et le blanc le paradis ou race supp.
bref c'est a nous et surtout au artiste de changer ce genre de détaille qui font la différence et peut faire office de référence pour d autre personne"
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"after several years when I see this clip away from emotion and off put the good quality of the music, the message convey is silly on our part,
The result is that finally we ourselves have accepted that black is a sub-race or all that is bad, and the white paradise or race supp.
In short it is up to us and especially the artist to change this kind of detail that make the difference and can serve as a reference for other people"

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