What Do White Europeans Think About White Americans And/Or Black Americans Who Visit Or Move To Europe?

twinshangout kenya, Dec 3, 2025

Why WH!TE EUROPEANS Are Denying Their WH!TE AMERICAN Cousins. Let us know what you think about this episode, thanks for watching 🙏🏾

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a 2025 YouTube podcast about the acceptance and experiences that White Americans and/or Black Americans have who move to or who visit  Europe.

This post includes an excerpt from this podcast's auto-generated transcript and also presents some comments from this post's discussion thread.  

The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to these podcasters and thanks to all those who are quoted in this pancocojams post.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This post presents some views that were expressed in one podcast. There are other online discussions about this subject that may partially or completely differ from these views.

For example, click https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/comments/1dyw4sz/how_do_europeans_feel_about_americans/ for the 2024 discussion thread entitled "How do Europeans Feel about Americans?"

That said, there's only one comment as of December 5, 2025 in that discussion whose writer mentions his or her race or which refers to race. Here's that comment:

BlakkMaggik, 2024
"Anytime I hear Americans talking here, I can't help but to look over at them, I don't know why. The accent is so prominent!

I'm European and living in Europe, but I've lived in the US for 20ish years and sound American when I speak English. In the US I would be described as African American and I hated it, like how dare someone call me American."
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Here's a representative comment from that discussion thread:
BornZebra, 2024
"I think every country has stereotypical tourists that have annoying habits. With Americans, it's mostly a very closed-minded world view (thinking Europe consists of France and Italy and ignoring the rest), compulsively speaking English everywhere and not even bothering with at least trying in a different language, complaining when European countries don't serve chicken tenders and fries for children.. But the most grating thing to me is that Americans tend to be quite loud. I don't know why this is, but it's more common than one would think and it can be very annoying, especially in restaurants." 

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EXCERPT FROM THIS PODCAST'S AUTO-GENERATED TRANSCRIPT

This excerpt is from 2:11 to 4:48.  The full length of this podcast is 22.12 minutes.
This transcript includes a few spelling corrections that I made. I  also added a word to certain sentences to clarify or enhance the meaning of those sentences.Those words are written in italics and given in brackets.    

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These comments in this excerpt are from @economyvodka, a young African American woman who lived in three European nations.

"I made a video talking about how a lot of right-wing Americans are now calling
for everyone to go back to their countries of origin except for them. And a Trump
supporter with a pickup truck decided to comment that Europeans would actually
be grateful for white Americans whereas Africans would never accept African-Americans.

I'm sorry, what?

And it's one of the most delusional takes because I've talked in length about how when I lived in Europe - I lived in three countries-and one of the things that shocked me the most initially when I went to Europe, was how much vitriol Europeans had for Americans in general, including white Americans.

They sort of see them as like those embarrassing cousins that they want nothing to do with because there's the knowledge that the United States is a European settler colony, but they have a great amount of disdain for what their cousins have turned into. And it was really interesting for me being there, hearing and witnessing it. Like Europeans absolutely go in about how they think Americans are stupid. They're trashy. They're classless. They absolutely have no respect for certain elements of American culture. and 100% believe that Americans are beneath them.

Let's not lie now. And let's just say realistically this move did happen that white Americans were accepted to go to Europe -replace all the immigrants that are there. Do you think they would be welcomed with open arms?

They wouldn't.

Because as any American who has immigrated to Europe already, one of the most reoccurring posts in any expat group or Americans in Europe group I was ever in were American people having negative experiences with Europeans,  [They] couldn't find friends. If they didn't have money, They would struggle in finding a job.

One of the biggest problems being their inability to speak the language of the country that they moved to.

And the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if they're white or black. In fact, I think that I had an easier time making friends in Europe than many white American people that I know.

And regarding Africans with African-Americans, I have never had a negative experience with an African person. Whether I was in Europe, here in America, in Canada, and friends that I know who have traveled to Africa have had nothing but good things to say.

I'm kind of tired of the projection that a lot of white people do with people of color where their skewed ideas about the world actually has more relevance to them than it does to Europeans telling white Americans that they have no connection to the country where their ancestors actually came from. [This] is the mentality of a colonizer. Right? Because the only people who are indigenous to the Americas are indigenous Americans."...

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS POST'S DISCUSSION THREAD.
All of these comments are from December 3 -December 5, 2025. 
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok-h8-up63E

Why WH!TE EUROPEANS Are Denying Their WH!TE AMERICAN Cousins.

1. @whoshebe2751
"EUROPE!!! call ya cousins home now😂😂😂"

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2. @blue2mato312
"No thank you! 😅 And by the way, if we go far enough back we are really all cousins no matter skin colour. I will not claim them and the mess they have made both inside their country and abroad with their wars. If this continues to be a race war only in reverse it will feel good for oppressed people for a while, but then the roles just switch. Our planet does not have time for it, it would be much better to work together to save it."

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3. @scroogemcduckASF
"8:30 Europe and America complaining about immigrants when they can’t stay out of other people’s countries😂😂"

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4. @blue2mato312
"Generalisations flourish though, last time my country invaded another was in the Viking age."

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5. @baseman2002
"I'm black born in England to Jamaican parents. I remember one time a female white American student did an exchange with another girl from my school. Everyone greeted her and would speak to her. When I went to talk to her she totally blanked me wouldn't acknowledge me at all. She told other students she dont talk to blacks. I was popular at school so many people got angry over that and told her. This ain't racist American and some white girls beat her up. She didn't come back and sent me messages of apology, which I didn't accept. Here most white folk are embarrassed by Caucasian Americans. She flew back to her racist existence."

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6. @LionQueenn
"That’s what she get. Hope she learned her damn lesson. Good job to you and your mates for putting her in her place."

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7.@cathymclaurin4340
"The people in the UK are racist, also..  They are just sneaky with theirs.. The RF and UK media is a prime example.. The way they treated Harry's  wife.. "

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8. @aphoristaemporium123
"Although similar in effect, racism and colour prejudice are not to be conflated. White Americans came, whereas black Americans were enslaved and brought to America. All are US citizens, speaking the same language, but identified by colour. Whereas black American culture is globally emulated, the world view of white America isn't positive and Mr Trump has made it so much worse."

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9.@rachelb1502
"@cathymclaurin4340 there is unfortunately many racists here still...but not all of us...and very very few of us are on the level that we wouldn't even speak to a black person! That's just rude! Not to mention completely impractical in day to day life...

I hate racism...and I love the fact my country is beautifully diverse...I have much respect for the communities that have contributed much to the UK for generations... unfortunately the right wing media doesn't want us to all live together in peace, they'd rather we blame our neighbours for the countries ills rather than the politicians and the Americanisation of the country 😔"

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10. @cathymclaurin4340
"@rachelb1502 Not all whites in the US are racist.. Some are and their biased behaviors along with the President are the loudest but all whites in US arent the same..  Just as all blacks aren't.."

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11. @JehSquared
"As an African American active duty Air Force member, living in Paris on a special duty assignment, and traveling extensively throughout Europe, 3 things stood out. 1. European burbs are for the poor.

2. I was never black where ever I went, I was always identified as an American.

3. White Europeans dislike white Americans."

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12. @parrj316
"U.S.Army being stationin germany and south Korea i also was called american.not black not the N-word but american,or crazy american."

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13. @JehSquared
"@parrj316 Being raised in America as a black male, the 1st time I left this country, I could not believe the love I got from foreigners.  Living outside the US was a very big education about life and the world outside mine. I'm blessed and humbled by the experience. 🙏🏾"

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14. @whoshebe2751
"Me too.. I felt no racism in Europe when I went.. I actually felt better than being in America... shocking right"

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15. @andrealomax9044
"My family has lived/been stationed in Europe off and on for a total of 15 years(3 countries (Germany 4 times, Belgium 1 time and Italy 1 time). I can truly say that Europeans do not love Wytee Amerikkkan like that. They consider them to be arrogant and rude. I have been told by those that I have met that they rather associate with Black people because we come and try to enjoy the visit and learn the culture. Wytee Amerikkkans come in complaining about what they can't get or how they miss Walmart. That's laughable as I heard that with my own ears. Our personal experience showed us that other cultures there believe in family time and they promote a much better work-life balance which we appreciated."

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16.  @tonyjones1560
"I heard Americans complaining about speaking German IN GERMANY while I was stationed there (Army, 1987-1989). All these years later, that memory shakes my brain whenever it surfaces.

Meanwhile, I learned to speak some German, carried a dictionary and a phrase book to get past the rough patches and behaved like a guest in somebody else’s house. It helped immensely."

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17. @ChubbBates-mh5xp
"I’m a white English American born in England.Ive been to the US in the past decades ago to visit my distant relatives.Once was enough for me.Most of them were ignorant and thought the sun shone out of the USs arse.England is wholeheartedly better than the US.Especially for mental wellbeing.🇬🇧"

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18. @julianajaxson
"I used to say this. As I travel every year to Europe. They literally tell me that white Americans are stupid… met a banker for germanys bank DB and he did a year of college at Michigan state (a pretty good school) for a finance masters and he said that it was just a social year because everything that was taught to the students were things he learned already years ago. And we started talking about how white Americans are stupid…… oh they know. Since he was in Michigan he also saw the racism and said he didn’t get it at all…… heard along the same thing in France, Greece, Italy and the UK…. Not all of them like black people though.

The feel like Americans are unintellectual and pointless to be around…

From my experiences Europeans were generally really nice to me specifically…every time I go to their countries… there are some that are racists but a lot of those ones aspire to be around white Americans (I.e. they are also dumb and don’t watch the news or anything like that)"

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19. @keith.anthony.infinity.h
"As a Black American person I am multi-generationally mixed. Some of my ancestry goes back to Europe in Germany, Austria, England, and Ireland. I have met some of my White cousins and we get along just fine. I reached out to some distant cousins who have African ancestry in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and the Congo like me but got no response. Wish me luck"

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20. @SamanthaReed-bs5te
"You'll find that this is a two way street. When black Americans move to African nations they're often met with hostility."

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21. @mgardner70
"I heard it myself. The French have been roasting Americans for years."

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22. @BearArms_Yamasee_James
"Vilhelm Måberg is a Swedish author who wrote an interesting book call "Emigrants"

This book was forbidden in Sweden for a long time because Vilhelm Måberg critized europeans for leaving their countries. He called them traitors but in reality they were starving to death in Europe..!!!

This is why a lot of Swedish people who are Scandinavian and other Europeans fled to the USA in the mid 1850's 😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮😮.

Minnesota is a typical Swedish settlement in the mid 1850's.

The word Minnesota in Swedish means remember the time..

Minne = remember and sota means suffering..!!! Remember the time of suffering/ starvation in Europe..!!!

I am a black American and I speak and write Swedish fluently.

White Europeans living in Europe will not get along with white Americans too well. I lived abroad for over 35 years and I am telling this story the way it is."

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23. @rachelb1502
"They're just an embarrassment...imagine electing someone like Trump....twice!! Half of them can't even point out Europe on a map anyway...we don't claim them just because they have the same skin colour as us..my allegiance lies with my brothers and sisters in Europe...my brothers and sisters of ALL ethnicities"

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24. @warrenreid6109
"I served with several soilders who were stationed in parts of Europe. They all agree that when they say that they don't like Americans that they are referring to white people who are American"

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25. @Mel_sunflower
"They go to places with a superiority complex, and are extremely arrogant."  

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26. @blue2mato312
"Excellent video, it is the first one from you I have watched. I’m a white European woman from Norway, and I personally disagree with the reason for not wanting white Americans from the US to come in big numbers to Europe or my country. It is not for competing for resources, we already have many immigrants of different colours including other Europeans moving around. It is the US mentality which we (or I) don’t want, their arrogant ignorance and other problems. The US is very indoctrinated, and they have been since birth for several generations. Their education has fallen spectacularly too. I also don’t want them to bring their racism here, and their kind of politics. Remember, the US right/left parties are a world away from Europeans. Their Democrats would be more close to our rightwing party, their right GOP is an extreme right which actually has no equal in my country (thankfully) because it has descended into pure fascism. We have been through WWII, my grandparents lived it and Norway was ocupied by Nazi Germany. Still many Americans do not understand what this means. It dosen’t matter what colour you are under such a rule, the brutality comes for everyone. My grandmother lost both her brothers taken by the Nazis and sent to die in a German concentrationcamp simply for being a student and the orher having been a part of the labour party. We do not need American exceptionalism and lack of interest in educating themselves about the real world here.

I can however see that in other countries resources such as housing does compound this, like in Spain and Portugal. They are experimcing that Americans with money come and drive up prices for the local population so much that the locals can’t afford to live in their own cities, this will of course bring tension and resentment for people. When you add that white Americans are generally of the idea that they are better than anyone else or not capable or willing to learn the local language it makes it worse. From Norway
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27. @irenezaleski4989
"Hi! Loved the video. I specifically resonated with what @economyvodka said.

I can only speak of myself, a cis white middle aged woman in Spain with Spanish family on my mom’s side and polish on my dad’s. Fist, I’m not going to lie and say that we don’t have xenophobia or racism here. My sister and I suffered xenophobia, specially while growing up. And we were both born here. It’s better now but the far-right Neo Nat-sis are growing. We still have a lot to unlearn, learn, work on. I, personally, have a problem with US-exceptionalism. As in US is the default, the bestest biggest best, only the US exists and there-be-dragons everywhere else, everyone loves the US, looks up to the US, desires to be USian and AMERICA (the US) is our messiah, our god and saviour. We are fighting to build community, learn and secure our culture, because as @economyvodka said we are losing it to capitalism. We have regional differences even in our own countries (as people in different states in the US). What angers me is whyte Americans that don’t even bother to learn the real History and Culture of their own country so much less their ancestors history or culture. We have some of those too, but they have to actively put their head in the sand and put their fingers in their ears, refusing to hear and learn what it is the real History and culture. It’s specifically maddening which the internet and social media. I’m the daughter of an immigrant and the granddaughter of refugees. I live in a region of Spain that has a HUGE history of emigration. There’s even a saying about it: you can find a Galician anywhere in the world and a TV show called Galicians around the world. Our parents always taught us that it’s enriching and that widens cultures. I wouldn’t like to welcome a whyte American that not only thinks that us, our history, our regional differences and our culture are beneath them. When they already feel that way with their own country. Do they know the actual native nations that lived in what’s now their town? Do they know about what was happening during the civil rights movement in their state? Do they have knowledge about the concentration camps during WWII? Do they know that The ones in the Mayflower were religious extremists that when flying persecution and being offered shelter and acceptance in a very open minded country they were SO upset to not be able to force their beliefs that they charted the Mayflower to go to Turtle Island and convert and grab the land of people that they didn’t value as people, just as what we now would understand as NPC guides and suppliers of resources. And if they are going to reclaim their Irishness for example do they try to learn about the Famine, The Troubles, the mythology, Gaelic? I was 20 when the Good Friday Agreement was signed, its not ancient history. That’s why non-white Americans are usually treated better. I also understand that we started this first. And as I can totally understand people from former Spanish colonies moving to Spain, I can understand that we might need to handle some of those whyte Americans. It’s that I just prefer a farmer’s son, a scholar, anyone from Equatorial Guinea than a MAGA-hat. It’s obvious which one is safer to be around"... ** 28. @parrj316
"I been reading about the black men in ww1 the harlem hell fighters. The  french. Forces was asking for reinforcement.so the american General name blackjack Percey gave him all the blacks.the french command treated the black soilders humans.the black soilders was wrting home telling thier families they have to look in the mirror to see if they were still black.but the american did not like the way the black solider was being treated.the american command said the blacks have places and must be kept there. In England a place called burma bridge.where the white soliders still wanted jim crow laws.the english people put up signs saying black troops only.in germany after ww2 the american command said no soliders are allowed to mixing with germany women.when black solider who did get caught they were kart martial and dishonorable discharge.in 1948 truman desegregate the military."

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29. @VenusianSanctuary
"As a black British woman I can tell you for a FACT you should class British w COMMON women in the same ranking as COMMON American w women category. EDUCATED w Britain women have NEVER brought any strange energy my way. Unfortunately I have experienced r-cism from the common/chav working class communities in the work place."

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30. @lg_NoFear
"You guys sure love to give Europe a pass. The USA has helped Europe continue to take from Africa. They helped Belgium with Congo. They have been helping the French."

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Hip Hop Dances That Are Named In "Candy Girl" Foot Stomping Cheers (with videos & comments)

New Edition,  Apr 10, 2024

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series that showcases the New Edition's 1983 hit R&B song "Candy Girl" and presents examples of the "Candy Girl" rhyme/cheer.

This post presents a list of the dances that are mentioned in the rhyme/foot stomping cheer examples that are found in Part I of this series That post also showcases several YouTube videos for a few of those dances that are listed in
Part I. 

Selected comments from the discussion threads for three of these YouTube videos are also included in this post.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/12/part-i-new-edition-candy-girl-hit.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. This post presents all of the examples that I have directly collected or that I have found online for the "Candy Girl" rhyme/cheer.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to New Edition for their musical legacy, including the song "Candy Girl". Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.  And thanks to all those who are featured in these videos and thanks to the producers of these videos on YouTube.
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Click these links for some closely related pancocojams post:
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/07/some-examples-of-dance-style-foot.html "Names Of Dances That Are Mentioned In Black American Girls' Foot Stomping Cheers" and https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/07/some-examples-of-dance-style-foot.html for the related pancocojams post "Some Examples of "Dance Style Foot Stomping Cheers" That Don't Include Names Of Dances"

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"Candy Girl" is the name of some foot stomping cheers that were inspired by New Edition's the 1983/1984 R&B Song hit with that title. These compositions and their performance activities are are categorized as "dance style foot stomping cheers" "Dance style" foot stomping cheers are a small sub-set of foot stomping cheers*. "Dance style" foot stomping cheers provide opportunities for people to show off their foot stomping and social dancing skills. Some dance style foot stomping cheer contains at least one dance of a dance or the name of a dance move/step. Other dance style foot stomping cheers focus more generally on dance and/or stepping movements. In some dance style foot stomping cheers each soloist for dance style foot stomping cheers are supposed to mention the name of a different R&B/Hip Hop dance than one that had previously been mentioned. Other categories of foot stomping cheers are "introduce yourself cheers", romantic cheers, and bragging/insult confrontational cheers. Examples can belong to more than one category of foot stomping cheers. **** A PARTIAL LIST OF 1980s/1990s R&B / HIP HOP DANCES The names of these dances were retrieved from the examples/book excerpts that are given in Part I of this pancocojams series. Note that the names of these all begin with the word "the". The Bobby Brown
The Bounce The Butterfly

The Cabbage Patch
The Janet Jackson

The Kid N Play
The Michael Jackson

The Mike Tyson

The Pepperseed

The Prep

The Roger Rabbit

The Running Man. The Snake The Smurf The Wop

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YOUTUBE VIDEOS & SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT SOME HIP HOP DANCES THAT WERE PERFORMED IN THE 1980s AND THE 1990s These videos are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only. SHOWCASE VIDEO #1- Tony - The Wop, The Cabbage Patch & The Prep

DJ Tony Vito, Apr 20, 2007

Yes, that's me, kickin' old school moves .... 80's lives on!  The third step in this video is a

dance we used to call the Raindance at Bentleys on 40th and Madison;  I've since found out that it is better known as The Prep. -snip- Selected comments from the video's discussion thread 1. @avp0713, 2007 "Yes, the roger rabbit is similar to the Running Man.  If you saw the movie "GET SHORTY"

with Vince Vaughn and John Travolta and "The Rock", you'll see that Vince Vaughn does the Roger Rabbit when The Rock wants to beat him down.  The Roger Rabbit is like a backwards "Running Man". ** 2. @avp0713, 2007 "thanks tuberroni, i'm going to do more videos of different

dances i've done through the years.  There's so many like, The Patty Duke, The Rock, The Barney Rubble, The Bump, The Freak..." ** 3. @estlgrl, 2008 "yea ol school thats the way to kick it thats all the dance moves i do" ** 4. @SMC799, 2010 "Honey, I'm 40 and grew up in NY and we did those dances and

they were FUN! You did your thang! Loved it!"

** 5. @mothball50, 2011 "But can you do the smurf, robocop, and gallop? I

was diggin the wop btw. It was big in Cali ** 6. @Afrodesiahhh, 2011 "Hey...not many can bust out this little known move. You can Prep almost as good as me!  Down South we added a sweet little move to it though...maybe I'll post a vid doin' the do with the complete choreography ; )   Your wop...priceless."
** 7. @avp0713. 2011 ":33 to :55 but that is the '80s WOP.  They came out with THE WOP again in like 2008, but it's a sequence of steps.  I can do that one also,  but this vid is about '80s throwback dance moves." ** 8. @HooksNPunches, 2011 "you made my day with this one!, i was tryin' to show one of these young cats what the REAL WOP was and you did it perfectly Sun!, and ya Prep was DOPE too!.. nice moves Sun!..and the Perfect track too!..b-easy and long live OUR ERA!...PEACE!

** 9. @millfordsange, 2011 "Yo, uncle was killin it!"

** 10. @avp0713, 2012 "@mothball50 - I remember doing the Smurf.  I don't remember Robocop and gallop, but If I saw the steps I would probably remember. 

When we were doing the Prep in NY, I never knew the name.  In the club I went to (Bentleys) they called it the "Rain Dance"... lol

** 11. @avp0713, 2012 "@rinny02852 - Yes I've seen the "new" whop and I can bust that out too.  I put up all these old school dances a few years ago, but I do all the new dances too...  Sometimes when I DJ I have to get out there and break it down for the audience.... lol.

We had so much fun doing the wop;  there were a few different ways to do it.

** 12. @ofudgems, 2017 "Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy that's what I'm talkin' 'bout right there!

Yeah, those were the days man! Respect!" ** 13. @creativequeen8371, 2017 "Thank you, Tony! This PROPER instruction on how to do the wop and those other brilliant old skool moves I try and buss (ailments allowing lol) in my house or when out with my equally old skool friends, just for the sake of old times. Not seen but one video that comes close to this. I love the

wop move where you make a fist and throw you hand up, really slow, behind your head and bring it back down through the air slowly, but with force, eyes shut - to really show  you are feeling the music. Now THAT'S old skool. Love it!

** 14. @zippieslugdelafluor9038, 2018 "Man...I could wop with the best of them back in the day. I still dig that one out when I dance. None of that twerking for me. Lol" ** 15. @LAGrpEx, 2020 "Finally, the only video I found of the cabbage patch being done CORRECTLY! Get it, Tony!" **** SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - Old school dance moves round 2

@MarieBustinMoves, August 24, 2020 I challenge you to these old school dance moves ****

Here are some comments from this video's discussion thread: 1. @prayingforbetterdays4604, 2022 "I wished I had all this energy for dancing smh some times I don't even bob my head much less do tha cabbage patch lol, I love this family. Keep bustin moves ms marie"
** 2. @Sir.Tallen, 2022 "For history purposes Walk It Out is actually called The Poole Palace. 😅 Just so the kids in 2078 know the real name."
** 3. @jmgirard7, 2023 "Smurf, running man, and snake were my go-to's. Happy memories there."
** 4.@samuelhernandez6813, 2022 "Wow 👏👏👏👏

As a 90’s baby, (1994) I really appreciate the throwbacks. I think I’ll try some of these myself"

** 5. @dianeibsen5994, 2023 "I didn't know they had names!?"
** 6. @micheledean17,2025 "Yeah you slayed! But you missed the kid and play! Girl are u from b-more? Did I see you @ hammers in 1996" ** 7. @Ms.Aries888, 2025 "The Mary J got blended with Doug E Fresh.😂

This brings back memories. ❤it!"

** 8. @justins21482, 2025 "OMG so that goofy move I sometimes do is called the PREP!?!?!? I about died lolololol."

**** SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 - The Kid N Play Kick Step

Midlands Anchor, Mar 18, 2017 -snip- The name of this 1990 movie is House Party".

**** SHOWCASE VIDEO #4-How to do the Roger Rabbit | Hip Hop Club Dance Moves

DanceKizombaTV, Jun 27, 2014 Awesome demo of Hip Hop Club Dance Move Roger Rabbit by legends Buddha Stretch (go to his workshops), Terry Link & Caleaf Sellers.

Watch, Learn and Enjoy! **** SHOWCASE VIDEO - #5 - How to do the Smurf | Hip Hop Club Dance Moves 

DanceKizombaTV, Jun 27, 2014

Awesome demo of Hip Hop Club Dance Move Smurf by legends Buddha Stretch (go to his workshops), Terry Link & Caleaf Sellers. Watch, Learn and Enjoy!

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New Edition-"Candy Girl" 1983 R&B Song) & Examples Of "Candy Girl" Foot Stomping Cheers

 

dakwa4life, March 19, 2009

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series that showcases the New Edition's 1983 hit R&B song "Candy Girl" and presents examples of the "Candy Girl" rhyme/cheer.

This post presents all of the examples that I have directly collected or that I have found online for the "Candy Girk" rhyme/cheer.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/12/hip-hop-dances-that-are-named-in-candy.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post presents a list of the 1980s/1990s R&B/Hip Hop dances that are mentioned in the rhyme/foot stomping cheer examples that are found in Part I of this series That post also showcases five YouTube videos of some of these dances.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to New Edition for their musical legacy, including the song "Candy Girl". Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.  And thanks to the producer of this video on YouTube.
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This post is a re-print (with updates) of a pancocojams post that was first published in 2021. That post is no longer available.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
"Candy Girl" rhymes/cheers are based on the 1983 hit R&B song "Candy Girl" by New Edition.

All of the versions of "Candy Girl" that I've come across begin with a close folk processed portion of th chorus of that New Edition song:
"Candy girl
You are my world
You look so sweet
You're a special treat."...
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The beginning tune for the examples of "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers that I observed in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and one of its nearby cities was the same as the beginning tune for the "Candy Girl" R&B record. This was probably the case wherever that rhyme/cheer was performed. 
  
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The examples of "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers that I have come across show a remarkable similarity in their words and their structure.  As of the date of this post's publication (December 4, 2025), I've come aross examples of  "Candy Girl" from the following geographical locations: Brooklyn, New York; Harlem, New York; East Harlem, New York; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and some of its surrounding communities; Newark, New Jersey; and Los Angeles, California. "Candy Girl" has also been mentioned in a few other online comments that I've come across that don't have any geographical demographics. 

Here's a general note that I wrote about "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers:
"Candy Girl" is an example of a "dance style" foot stomping cheer. Those types of foot stomping cheers provide opportunities for the "cheerers" (steppers) to show off their dancing ability. The focus in these cheers is on dance names. Ideally, when it's her turn as soloist, each girl is supposed to highlight a different dance. Usually, this means current dances, but old school dances [popular dances that aren't done anymore] can also be highlighted.

The foot stomping cheer "Candy Girl" begins with the group-including the soloist- chanting a portion of the chorus of  New Edition's "Candy Girl" song.

The person whose turn it is as soloist then briefly does a particular dance and the group performs that dance along with the soloist. The members of the group don't need to perform the dance exactly the same way as the soloist."

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If you remember the "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheer please share your version of "Candy Girl" in this post's comment section. For the folkloric record, please remember to include  demographic information, especially where (geographical location), when (year/decade) you first heard or performed this cheer. Thanks in advance!

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EXAMPLES, & COMMENTS ABOUT "CANDY GIRL" FOOT STOMPING CHEERS
These excerpts, examples, and comments are given in relative chronological order based on their publishing dates or collection dates. 

Numbers are given for referencing purposes only.

CANDY GIRL (Version #1)
Everyone: Candy Girl.
All my world.
Look so sweet.
Special treat.
Soloist #1: This is the way we do The Bounce.
[Soloist does The Bounce while standing in the same spot and while continuing to chant]
Candy Girl.
Group: Do the bounce.
Do The bounce.
[The rest of the group does their version of The Bounce while standing in their same spot and while continuing to chant]
Soloist #1 All my world
[Soloist continues to do this dance for the reminder of this rendition of this chant]
Group: Do The bounce.
The bounce.
[The rest of the group continues to do this dance for the reminder of this rendition]
Soloist #1: Look so sweet.
Group: Do The bounce.
Do The bounce.
Soloist #1 Special Treat.
Everyone: Candy Girl
All my world
Look so sweet
Special Treat
Soloist #2: This is the way we do The Snake
[Soloist does The Snake while standing in the same spot and while continuing to chant.[Continue the same pattern as before with each new soloist naming and performing a different current or favorite "retired" R&B/Hip-Hop dance. This continues until everyone in the group has had one turn as soloist.]
-Tazi M. Powell (African American female; remembrance of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the mid 1980s; transcribed by Azizi Powell in 1997 from an audio tape that I made in the mid 1980s of my daughter and her friends.

Tazi mentioned that if someone chose the dance "The Cabbage Patch" in order for the syllables of that dance name to fit the beat pattern, the group wouldn't say "Do" for the second mention of the dance name, i.e. They would say "do the Cabbage Patch/the Cabbage Patch".

I also collected this exact same foot stomping cheer [with some different dance names] in 2000 from African American girls in that same age group in Braddock, Pennsylvania (about 10 miles from Pittsburgh).

However, I'm not sure if this cheer is still performed in 2013* in Pittsburgh or its surrounding communities. When I did my last informal gathering of rhymes & cheers in 2007, few girls knew any of the foot stomping cheers from the 1980s and 1990s.

*This summary was written in 2013 for a pancocojams post on this subject that has been deleted and replaced with https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/08/candy-girl-r-record-hand-clap-rhyme.html and with this post.

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[Book Excerpt] & Candy Girl Fragment (Version #2]
From The Games Black Girl's Play: Learning The Ropes From Double-Dutch To Hip-Hop by Kyra D. Gaunt (New York University Press), 2006; chapter: "Mary Mack Dressed In Black: The Earliest Formation Of A Popular Music", sub-title "Hand Clap Games"

(Pancocojams Editor's Note: The author describes African American girls from Harlem performing recreational material that they knew for a television program on WGBH in Boston, Mass. (October 18, 1999). That segment was filmed in New York City.)
..."I turned my focus back to the girls, and five of them were in a circle, surrounded by cameras and a sound boom...

"Lights, camera, action!" The girls began chanting the lyrics and melody of the opening lines of "Candy Girl". I recognized the song immediately and was titillated at discovering a game-song that showed a relationship between recent popular music culture and the ongoing tradition of creating girls games from it as a resource.

The girls patted hand with the girl to either side of them, creating an alternating current of contact around the circle. I was witnessing one of the latest bridges based on the early 1980s "bubblegum soul" of the

[page 73]

group New Edition. The game would have preceded these eight-and nine-year-old girls by ten years: they were born in 1991 and 1992. ("Candy Girl" was New Edition's first single hit, and it became the title of their first album released in 1983.)

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The girls' handclapping, bridge version of "Candy Girl" highlighted the borrowing of popular dances from the recent past: It featured the Jamaican Pepperseed, marked by the alternating movements of the torso from left to right on one two three and (hold) four / one two three and (hold) four. With arms spread out to the side, the movements of the torso on one two three and (hold) four transferred wavy currents of motion from one arm to the other, causing the arms to look and feel like they were treading water. Th game featured the late 1980s dance the Running Man, popularized by bad boy Bobby Brown of New Edition. This dance involved the funky locomotion of lunging forward on alternate feet while thrusting your chest out and pulling your fists back by your sides. The dance was all about subdivided timing of strides marking the offbeats between one and two and three and four, while your feet executed a sliding action and a slight scuffling sound after each forward lunge, emulating a running man (or woman).

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The girls had fit these three dances, and others, into the kinetic orality accompanying the lyrics. They repeated the game-song for the cameras.

Can-dy Girl/You are my world

Look-so sweet/ Spe-cial treat

Following this was a section of show-and-tell, an embodied call-and-response of a sort, where the conjunction between word and the body, between individuals and the collective, became apparent. As they sang of doing the Janet Jackson, they danced the Pepperseed. As they sang of doing the Mike Tyson, the did the Fight. As they sang of doing the Bobby Brown, they did the Running Man.

This is the way you do - the Janet // Jackson ["Pepperseed"]

This is the way you do - the Mike // Tyson ["the Fight"]

This is the way you do - the Bobby // Brown ["the Running Man"]"...
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The words in parenthesis are the names of the dances that Kyra Gaunt wrote that the girls did during that performance of "Candy Girl".
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As noted in this entry, Kyra D. Gaunt placed this "Candy Girl" example in a chapter of her book on hand clap rhymes. She also referred to it as a "game song". 

Kyra D. Gaunt mentions cheers in her "The Games Black Girls Play" book (as noted in this 2017 pancocojams post http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/08/excerpt-about-foot-stomping-cheers-from.html.   However, it appears that Dr. Gaunt didn't consider "Candy Girl" a cheer.

I wonder whether the girls who performed "Candy Girl" for the cameras as documented in that book changed the way they usually performed that example. And I wonder if the way they usually performed "Candy Girl" different from the "cheers" that are described in this post?   

I should also mention that I came across this comment written in 2020 by Kyra D. Gaunt in the discussion thread for the video entitled "90’s hand games (part 2)" that is given below as #8 in this post:.

"What city are you all from? I learned Candy Girl from kids in Harlem. I wrote a book about Black girls musical games."
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Geneas, one of the two young Black women who published that video, responded that they were from Newark, New Jersey. Two other commenters posted these responses: 

nyya0509
"Played these games growin up in Jersey"

and

Alexia BingHeath
"I can tell y’all are from Jersey because I’m from Trenton and we did the same games."
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Presumably, these commenters included "Candy Girl" in the list of "games" that they grew up with in New Jersey. But what [also] interests me is that -like Kyra Gaunt- these two commenters used the term "games" as a catch all referent for a hand clap rhyme and/or a cheer. 

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CANDY GIRL (Version #3)
Candy girl,
all my world,
looks so sweet,
candy treat
This is the way
we do the (insert a dance)

Candy girl
Do the (dance) the (dance)
All my world
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Looks so sweet
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Candy treat
Do the (dance) the (dance)

(Repeat)

Directions:
This one involves the whole participation of the group at once. You repeat it for as many dances as you have until you can’t think of anymore.
- Jennifer (Korean), undergraduate female college student University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania ; remembrances of rhymes she performed when she was 8-12 years ; (she indicates that she learned this from African American girls); sent  via email to Azizi Powell in 2005
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In 2005 my daughter, my two pre-teen nieces, one of their girlfriends of the same age, and I presented  a session on playground rhymes & cheers at Carnegie Library (main branch. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania). Jennifer was a college student who attended that session. She talked with me afterwards. I gave her my email address, and she sent me this cheer and two hand clap rhymes that she knew.

Jennifer described this example of "Candy Girl" as a "Handclap with dance". I wonder if her description that rhe entire group participates as once means that the group decided what dances to do beforehand. In my opinion, this way of performing this cheer is a modification of the original "consecutive soloist" structure where each member takes one turn as the soloist, and comes up with a different dance on the spot and not with prior knowledge of the rest of the group. The rest of the group would then all do the dance with the soloist.

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CANDY GIRL (Version #4)  
does anybody know candy girl? little girls i know still play it!

candy girl, oh my world
look so sweet, special treat
this is the way you do the "wop"(or the "snake", or whatever dance is cute that u know the name of)

candy girl, say wop,wop
oh my world, say wop, wop
look so sweet, say wop,wop
special treat, say wop,wop(and then move on to the next dance)
- bitsy196 (African American female; Los Angeles, California 6-25-2003, ); http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=4123&page=4; “remember when?”; 6-25-2003
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All of the participants in this Greekchat.com discussion thread are members of historically Black Greek letter sororities. Based on some of the comments that these bloggers wrote and based on some of their screen names, my guess is that they were remembering their childhood play in the 1980 or the early 1990s.

I also collected this exact same foot stomping cheer [with some different dance names] in 2000 from African American girls in that same age group in Braddock, Pennsylvania (about 10 miles from Pittsburgh.

However, I'm not sure if this cheer is still performed in 2013 or since then  in Pittsburgh or its surrounding communities. When I did my last informal gathering of rhymes & cheers in 2007, few girls knew any of the foot stomping cheers from the 1980s and 1990s.

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CANDY GIRL (Version #5)
WOOOOWWWW @ the power of collective memory! This thread is better than I expected to be. Some of these I completely forgot about (Hambone, Lil Sally Saucer to name some). Thanks to those for filling in the blanks. I don't t think this one was mentioned:

Candy girl

All my word

Looks so sweet

Special Treat

This is the way we do the

Salt n Pepa (or something else like the Michael Jackson, the snake, the wop, the butterfly, etc.)

Candy girl

Salt n Pepa! (Do corresponding move)

All my world

Salt n Pepa! (Do corresponding move)

Looks so sweet

Salt n Pepa (Do corresponding move)

Special Treat

Salt n Pepa...

 

Then I think it starts from the top again.
-Naeemah, 07-29-2007, https://www.nappturality.com/forums/threads/81695-Clapping-Rhymes-hand-Games/page8 [This website is no longer available.]

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CANDY GIRL (Version #6)
Candy girl, all my world,

look so sweet special treat

this is the way we (then they name a dance i.e the whop)

Candy girl

do the whop the whop

all my world

do the whop whop

look so sweet

do the whop the whop

special treat

do the whop the whop...

 

goes on with different dances mostly what is in at the time.
-Guest KLC,(East Harlem, New York, New York); http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=63097 "Folklore: Do kids still do clapping rhymes?" July 11, 2008

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CANDY GIRL (Version #7)
candy girl
you are my world
you look so sweet
you're a special treat
this is the way we do the...

(insert things like butterfly, criss-cross, etc)
-ChrissyIrene, March 25, 2011, http://hunsford.blogspot.com/2007/02/childhood-sayings.html

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CANDY GIRL (Version #8)      
candy girl
all my world
looks so sweet
special treat

this is the way we do the car wash [Do motions with one hand held to the side like you were using a rag to wash a car]

gotta wash the car

Candy girl

gotta wash the car

looks so sweet

gotta wash the car

special treat

gotta wash the car

candy girl
all my world
looks so sweet
special treat

this is the way we wash our face [Do motion of washing your face with a washrag in one hand.]

candy girl

gotta wash my face

all my world

Gotta wash my face
-Geneas and Atiyah (Newark, New Jersey) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-NKrzvqz_I&t=2s&ab_channel=Geneas "90’s hand games (part 2)", Geneas, March 28, 2020  [This website is no longer available.]

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Geneas and Atiyah are two young African American women from Newark, New Jersey. The women demonstrate how to play various hand clapping games. For most of the video they are seated. This is my transcription of the handclap game that begins around 4:13-4:56 [There are two takes of this rhyme because of a mistake]. 

This is my transcription of that rhyme. Additions and corrections are welcome.

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ADDENDUM - Excerpt Of A 1986? New York Times Article
 …"Many cheers deal with the physical changes of adolescence. The girls do a kind of hokey-pokey to the tune of New Edition's "Candy Girl" for example, but instead of putting their "right foot in", they shimmy forward with their chests and hips and then their buttocks.”…

-from Fromhttp://www.susanhartman.net/assignment_pix/cheers.pdf "It's Not Rap. Give A Clap And A Tap And Call It Cheers" by Susan Hartman [New York Times Page C1 and C6]; [African American and Hispanic girls in Brooklyn, New York, 1986?
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The date that is shown for this article in the pdf. is Aug. 11, 198_. The year 1986 is mentioned in that article and may have been the article's publishing date.

I'm including this excerpt because it is an early documentation of what I call "foot stomping cheers".

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/06/1980s-new-york-times-article-about.html for a pancocojams post about that article. In addition to "Candy Girl", that article also mentioned the cheers "Hollywood Go Angels" (The lines quoted are the same as or very similar to the cheer "Hula Hula"), "Fly Girls", "Betty Boop", and "Lachichu' (which the girls indicated they made up based on seeing a homeless man).  The first three cheers- "Candy Girl", "Hollywood", and Fly Girls" appear to have been widely known among African American girls in the 1980s and 1990s. This article is the only time I've come across any mention of "Betty Boop" [cheer] or "Lachichu". 

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The Sainted Trap Choir's Performance Of Prince's 1984 Song "Purple Rain" On America's Got Talent: Fantasy League (2024)

World Best Talent, Nov 17, 2025
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Here's AI Overview results to question "Did Sainted win AGT" Fantasy League 2024?
"No, Sainted did not win America's Got Talent Fantasy League, they placed fourth in the competition. The group made it to the finals but was eliminated before the winner was announced, with the Ramadhani Brothers ultimately taking the title."

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases The Sainted Trap Choir's performance of Prince's song "Purple Rain" on American's Got Talent: Fantasy League 2024.

Information about The Sainted Trap Choir is presented in this post along with information about America's Got Talent: Fantasy League, and information about the song "Purple Rain".

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to The Sainted Trap Choir for their musical skills. Thanks also to Prince for his cultural legacy. Thanks also to AGT: Fantasy League, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube. 

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INFORMATION ABOUT AMERICA'S GOT TALENT: FANTASY LEAGUE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Got_Talent:_Fantasy_League
"America's Got Talent: Fantasy League (also known as AGT: Fantasy League) is an American reality television and talent competition series that premiered on NBC on January 1, 2024. The "fantasy league" series is a spin-off featuring winners, finalists, fan favorites, and others from previous seasons of America's Got Talent and across the Got Talent franchise, with each judge serving as a mentor for a set of acts. Terry Crews hosts the series, with Simon Cowell, Mel B, Heidi Klum, and Howie Mandel serving as judges.[2]"

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INFORMATION ABOUT SAINTED TRAP CHOIR (Also known as "Sainted")
From https://www.thesaintedtrapchoir.com/meetthesaints

"ABOUT US

In the vibrant intersection of gospel tradition and contemporary hip-hop beats, Sainted emerges as a groundbreaking force. Led by DJ Fannie Mae and Grammy Award-Winning Singer/Songwriter Dennis Reed Jr., this immersive experience delves deep into the Southern church kid's world through music, cultural appreciation, fashion, and art. Think of it as the family reunion in your local hood after Sunday service with your grandma—Sainted is the bridge.

[…]

Sainted's career highlights reflect their trajectory to stardom. From accompanying Andra Day during this year's Super Bowl and performing at the Time 100 Gala alongside Fantasia, to achieving 4th runner-up in the season of AGT's Fantasy League after receiving the golden buzzer from Simon following a powerful rendition of Prince's "Purple Rain," they've left an indelible mark on the music scene. Opening for Janelle Monae’s "Age of Pleasure" tour, a duet with Sara Barellis, and their vocals featured on the Grammys during the Tina Turner tribute performed by Fantasia, underscore their journey of success.

At the heart of Sainted's allure is the 25+ person choir and star-studded band that promises an unforgettable experience. Grounded in the gospel music tradition, they highlight classic gospel and modern-day hip-hop artists, offering a musical journey that resonates deeply with its audience. In the realm of immersive musical experiences, Sainted stands unparalleled, inviting everyone to join this extraordinary celebration of Southern culture and music."
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The Sainted Trap Choir was established in 2020.

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INFORMATION ABOUT "PURPLE RAIN" BY PRINCE
From https://www.songfacts.com/facts/prince/purple-rain
"After Prince released his 1999 album in 1982, he toured in many of the same cities Bob Seger did. He was amazed at how crowds connected with Seger's songs like "Night Moves" and "Mainstreet" - slow songs that told stories people could relate to. Prince decided to write a song in that style, and "Purple Rain" was the result.

The album was actually the soundtrack to the first movie Prince made. He went on to make three more: Under The Cherry Moon, Sign O' The Times, and Graffiti Bridge. Purple Rain won Prince an Oscar for Best Original Song Score (not to be confused with the Best Original Score category, won that year by A Passage to India).

The song "Purple Rain" was the centerpiece of the film and a key plot point. In the movie, the female members in Prince's band, Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman, write a song that Prince ignores, prompting a tirade from Wendy ("Every time we give you a song you say you're going to use it but you never do. You're being paranoid as usual..."). At the end of the film, Prince's crew is in a heated rivalry with another band (The Time), who do a blistering set that Prince must follow. When Prince takes the stage, he introduces "Purple Rain" as being written by Wendy and Lisa, then tears down the house with it

he song was written for the Purple Rain film, but it served Prince very well in concert, where it was often his showstopper."...
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Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvnYmWpD_T8&list=RDTvnYmWpD_T8&start_radio=1
for the official YouTube video of the song "Purple Rain" from that film.

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From AI Overview
" "Purple Rain" is a power ballad that fuses rock, R&B, and gospel. It is a genre-bending song that incorporates elements from these styles to create a unique sound.

Power ballad: The song's emotional and sweeping structure is a hallmark of a power ballad.

Rock: It features soaring guitar solos that are central to the song's rock and roll feel.

R&B: The song has roots in R&B and soul, which are core genres in Prince's music.

Gospel: Gospel influences are evident in the song's spiritual and soulful elements."

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