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Sunday, June 26, 2022

Africans Discuss The "Proper" Attire For Women Singing In Gospel Choirs (Comments From A YouTube Discussion Thread About South Africa's Joyous Celebration Gospel Choir)


MY Joyous Celebration, November 2, 2015

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a 2015 YouTube video of the South African Gospel choir Joyous Celebration performing the song "More Than A Conqueror" live at Carnival City, 2012.

This post includes the Zulu and English words that are sung for this song. In addition, this pancocojams post includes selected comments from the discussion thread for this YouTube video. This compilation gives special attention to the comments about the low cut, Western style dresses that were worn by female members of the choir, with the exception of the soloist.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, religious, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Joyous Celebration and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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LYRICS - MORE THAN A CONQUEROR
(as sung by Joyous Celebration; discussion thread comment by Boitirelo Chakalisa, 2019)

UJesu unginqobele (Jesus is the conqueror)
Ngingaphezu komnqobi (More than any other)
UJesu unginqobele  (Jesus is the conqueror)
Ngingaphezu (More than)

Ngingaphezu (I am More)
Phezu komnqobi (More than a conqueror)
NgoJes’ iNkosi yami (Through Jesus my Lord)
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I believe that these words are in Zulu and English. 

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SELECTED COMMENTS
(With special attention to comments about the women's dresses.  These are only a sample of the comments about how the women were dressed.)

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.  


2017
1. BONTLE L MOOKO
"I only understand English, that other part what are they saying..please help me"

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2. THato aka poppy zia
"BONTLE L MOOKO is the same thing but now they singing in Zulu( nginga phezu komnqobi)"

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3. Ronald Tapfuma
"still the same thing in Ndebele"

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4. Ofentse Hamilton KAWE
"Beautiful song but how can the ladies expose their particulars like that?"

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5. Alex Stivo
"HAMILTON KAWE I think the master who leads them is a man so women ♀ can't bear but just in case to follow him πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ™Œ"

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6. linda tutu
"HAMILTON KAWE sometimes you dont realize they are that exposed."

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7. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Particulars πŸ˜„ Smh."

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8. clovis larsson
"nice song, but how can your ladies dress like this, who are you singing for the Lord or who, very bad"

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9. 
God's Phenomenal Girl, 2018
"Job 35:8 Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself and your righteousness only the sons of men..God looks at our inner man, our hearts not the outer us not dressing..it affects us sons of men but not God.."

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StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"You're absolutely right Clovis. The devil is a LIAR! "Be ye holy, for I am holy." "

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11. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
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If this was done by whites no one would complain, but because it's our race so they should be told how to dress? We have been following the choir wayback and that's their style so i don't see a need to say so much on a sixteenth installment. Keep going JC as loyal fans we listen to the message not the person delivering it and most importantly not how they are dressed."

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12. Victor G. Setuagbe
"Your songs are just a glorious. waooo, such precious talents of Africa. But I keep wondering what at all could be your motive behind these kind of costumes your ladies keep putting on for almost all your performances.

1 Timothy 2:9a (MKJV)  In the same way also, I desire that women adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and sensibleness...

Please these songs are supposed to be Spiritual songs and nothing else. Thank you."

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13. 
New Original COGIC
"Most are Zulu's and it is not considered nakedness if the women are barechested in their culture"

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14. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"@New Original COGIC  When we invite Jesus into our hearts and decide to live for him, HE alone must become our culture. Jesus Christ is a culture all by himself! And in that culture he expects modesty."

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15. carol lenin
"I love your songs so much but please improve on decency in your dress codes especially ladies. The Lord doesn't change. He is the same yesterday today and forever more. So I don't expect an explanation of generational thing. We are Christians and we should practise what we preach. It makes me listen the to your audios rather watching the videos."

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16. Jacque Brago
"Pls you people should dress properly and let's stop saying God deals with heart not the outward but is in that same scriptures that tells us that what comes out of a man is what has been full in his heart meaning how we dress comes out from the heart so you people should dress descently and I really love your songs."

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17. Faith Netshiozwi, 2018
"carol lenin I see no problem though...But hey..Its your opinion"

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18. NKALA PRECIOUS, 2018
"ae'm Anna Ewa its not a matter of being a western , I am a South African if you are in Christ you must change no culture and Christianity don't go together"

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19. Miriam Luvutse, 2018
"The truth sets us free!  Been wondering too about the decency thing here..... it gives me shivers."

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20. Sam Cheka, 2018
"carol lenin absolutely"

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21. Sylvia Atieno, 2018
"anyone who finds this dressing finds something to sexualize here and thats just sick,...be blessed by the song and move on"

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22. Miss Charlie Hackett, 2019
"THOU SHALT NOT JUDGE!!!!!!!!   WOW! You are willing to violate a commandment? Only GOD can decide about what they wear! You don't live in a glass house!! STOP JUDGING OTHERS!!! I love their singing to the Lord and so does HE!!! Sing sing sing and nevermind these judgmental fools breaking the commandments! Each of us will answer ALONE for our sins! Silly woman judging as if she is perfect! No. Sing, dress and be accountable for YOURSELF. DO NOT JUDGE!  There is a reason it is a commandment! STOP ignoring it! It is at the same level as thou shalt not MURDER so take it seriously and stop judging.

AMEN. Praise GOD and help those who run around judging others...they still don't understand ONLY GOD can judge.  ONLY GOD. ONLY GOD. NOT CAROL!  ONLY GOD."

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23. Ben the Worshiper, 2019
"The problem is not in them it is in you, so sorry"

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24. Liz Pasha, 2019
"I also listen to this song without watching video"

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25. Lord David Tirtowa Kodjo Lembo, 2019
"Hummmm wait until you go n worship with, among the Himbas...We wonder this dress code comes from here."

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26. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"It's not judging for a woman of God to speak on things pertaining to the scriptures with other women of God. As true Christians we are supposed to try the spirits and see if they be of God. If you can't tell those outfits are not God's way..πŸ™πŸ™"

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27. 
Caroline Wanjohi
"don't listen to criticizers keep it up"

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28. 
Molete Boitshepo
"Caroline Wanjohi I totally agree with you. what matters most it's what comes out of the heart. be strong guys coz people will always find a negative thing to say

But I'm loving the choir it's beautiful INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. LOVE YOU GUYS WHOLEHEARTEDLY"

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29. Olatoye comfort
"I mean u can't glorify  God  with indecent  dressing"

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30. Sheila Kimeu, 2018
"Caroline Wanjohi truth be told. and take corrections positively."

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31. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
"Our cultures allows us to dress like that and there is nothing wrong at all. We attend shows to be blessed by the message they diliver not what they are wearing."

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2018

32. hackers mind
"Powerful songs.....but dress code takes your mind back into the world"

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33. James Koleta
"Guys I don't see any problem with there dressing cord because most of this guys are Zulus and they value there culture as any other African language group what comes from the heart matters a lot than what is presented outside"

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34. Onu Tochukwu
"Nice song... Nice instruments... Nice people... but I think the dress code is poor... it doesn't portray Christianity...!!!"

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35. gamu k
"Abo fashion police officers we see youπŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚

 

πŸ˜‚your comments are from 2017 benikhupi all this time mara??"

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36. Shateyi
"Pliz get better dresses"

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37. Fumfon Rosaline, 2020
"Nothing wrong with their clothing, you should instead check your heart and stop judging people. Shalom"

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38. DeCall Music
"i had no option than to put away all your videos bcs of your ladies exposing their bodies..

you sing great but you project immorality."

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39. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘"

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40. Carolyne wanj
"This song is very powerful and it inspires my heart to worship God more,if the ladies improve on their dress code ,then this will be more powerful..Corrections are meant to make you better."

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41. 
Sipho Manqele, 2019
"Everyone on stage don't dress themselves, there's a stylist who provide wardrobe. He consults with bosses and if they say "yes" to whatever look he sells to them, then everyone will wear it. It's not that the ladies picked those outfits, it's a uniform liked by the owners of Joyous Celebration Foundation. They think "The brand" then the individuals on stage."

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42. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Agreed Carolyn. It's never appropriate to have your body exposed as a woman of God whether you're on your own in church. People of God need to be spiritual minded, otherwise, you get mess like this."

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43. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"@Sipho Manqele  As true people of God you don't take your que from a "boss" or from a vendor, you take your que from the Holy Spirit, and I can tell you for a FACT, the Holy Spirit did NOT swnd for, or approve these outfits. Be more spiritual πŸ™πŸ˜‡πŸ™"

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44. 
jackline njeri, 2021
"I agree a powerful song with powerful message, the dress code though.."

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Elice E
45. "powerful songπŸ”₯πŸ”₯ And I love the diversity in your costumes, we grew up in different cultures and I truly believe what one believes to be modest is not another person's modesty and the Jesus I know looks at the heart. Hence anybody else's interpretation of your heart does not matter."

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46. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Sounds nice, but untrue. These sisters outfits are the definition of inappropriate  especially for public ministry."
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That word was written in bold font in that discussion thread.

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47. godfrey king
"When white people wear their clothes all you don't have nothing to say praise the Lord nice"

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48. bernard coulibaly
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it's simple just change yr color"

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2019

49. saj humble
"The song is great but the dressing is very worldly and promiscuous"

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50. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Agree. Not Godly at all. You would think there would be at least ONE woman in the group to explain that, but..."

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51. @momanyimose
"This is the highest deception in the   church I have ever seen, open breasts at the Altar ofJehovah!!! Just dance, dance all your way to hell..."

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52. Gideon kipkoech
"cover your Breast worshippers!"

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53. The Eagles Gathering
"The song is beautiful, but there is no nakedness in the presence of the Lord. Please have the fear of God even in your dressing"

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54. Stella Walda
"That Dressing code, No.

The song is awesomeπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ"

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55. ManassΓ© RestorΓ©
"There is no culture in serving the Lord, please Ladies put some clothes on! Cover your body completely to worship The I AM that I AM. Thanks. I do love the group, i always worship with you, I'm not judging at all !!!!!"

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56. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Good word my sista. Thank you."

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57. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
"Lol you just did"

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58. 
Gibbs T Gumbo
"Whilst all of you are talking about what is decent & not...i will  live for that lady dancing in the crowd,i doubt if you all noticed her,SHE IS DANCING FOR JESUS '....... big up JC"

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59. Davies Mataza
"So, no one is paying respect to the pianist and drumist ? He killed it!"

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60. MatlinLtd Co, 2020
"I agree."

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61. Steven Levitt, 2021
"The bassist πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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2020
62. StrongnBeautiful
"Idk who came up with the idea for their wardrobe, but they are obviously not spiritual. Sad."

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63. StrongnBeautiful
"First time hearing of this group. Loved the song, then I look down at the video and saw the women's outfits πŸ˜―πŸ˜•πŸ˜– People of God, do NOT let the devil fool you with his lies and nonesense. As TRUE people of God, what we wear ALWAYS matters! There is a standard to holiness and it goes far beyond ANY culture. Wonderful praise but please, study your bible more, and πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™ Also, FIRE your stylist. Thank you. PtL! πŸ˜„☺πŸ˜‡"

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64. StrongnBeautiful
"The dress is inappropriate. They need some SPIRITUAL aged women to guide them.  May the Holy Spirit help them, as he continues to use them."

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65. Velmah Hongo
"Powerful song....but DRESSING CODE FOR THE LADIES IS A NO!"

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66. D.J. #watchthisgamerevolves
"Ladies you worshipping god at least cover your bodies properly... Love the songs tho...."

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2021

67. Gladys Ndzinisa
"Ohhh yes we will conquer even covid"

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68.  OBI DANIEL AKACHUKWU
"The song is good. I love the lyrics

Please some of  the #dressing isn't okay.

They are all ministers and should pls be cautious with what they wear"

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69. 
Steven Viyano
"😭😭😭 This song ministered to me when I had lost faith"

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70. d_yt
"I just love how she gave the mic to the audience. I was literally shouting at my screen "I AM MORE, MORE THAN A CONQUERAAAAAHH THROUGH CHRIST MYYYY LORD!" πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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71. Melissa Mathema
"so its in middle of the pandemic and i cant help but sing along this amazing song ngoba usinqobele mpela uThixo!"
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Google translate from Xhosa to English: “for God hath dealt bountifully with us”

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Rod Lee - "Dance My Pain Away" (Baltimore Club Music song)



PhillyBMoreClub, April 11, 2009
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The title for this YouTube sound file includes the words "RIP DJ K-SWIFT.  Here's some information about that DJ from the Wikipedia page about Baltimore Club Music:
"DJ K-Swift was known as a prominent personality in the genre. In addition to DJing at Hammerjacks and The Paradox, she hosted a radio show on WERQ-FM from 1998 until her death in 2008.[5]"

end of quote

Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/K-Swift for the Wikipedia page about that young female DJ/record producer who contributed musically to this record.   
 
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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information about Baltimore Club music and information about Baltimore, Maryland record producer and party MC Rod Lee,

This post also showcases a YouTube sound file of the 1990s Baltimore Club music song "Dance My Pain Away" and includes a few comments from the discussion thread for that YouTube sound file.


The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.  

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to  Rod Lee for his cultural legacy and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this sound file on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT BALTIMORE CLUB MUSIC 
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baltimore_club#:~:text=It%20was%20created%20in%20Baltimore,and%20DJ%20Spen.&text=B
"B
altimore club, also called Bmore club, Bmore house or simply Bmore, is a fusion of breakbeat and house genres. . It is often referred to as a blend of hip hop and chopped, staccato house music. It was created in Baltimore, Maryland, United States in the early 1990s by 2 Live Crew's Luther Campbell, Frank Ski, Miss Tony (known as Big Tony after he stopped presenting in drag[1]), Scottie B. and DJ Spen.[2]

Baltimore Club is based on an 8/4 beat structure, and includes tempos around 130 beats per minute.[3][4] It combines repetitive, looped vocal snippets similar to trap, bounce, ghetto house and ghettotech. Baltimore club is a sample based form of breakbeat, with samples used including theme songs to shows like Sanford and Son, SpongeBob SquarePants and Elmo's World,[4] along with samples from shows like Family Guy, South Park & Ren & Stimpy, though can also be simple repeated phrases and chants. The instrumental tracks include heavy breakbeats and call and response stanzas[5] similar to those found in the go-go music of Washington, D.C."...

History

Origination

The record stores of Baltimore were essential to the development of the genre.[7] Early adopters included Scottie B, Shawn Caesar and DJ Equalizer during the 1990-1992 time period. They were later joined (1993–94) by DJ Patrick, Kenny B, DJ Class, Diamond K, DJ Technics and others.

[...]

2000s

In the mid 2000's, the genre gained crossover popularity in Baltimore's rock underground, due to dance nights at venues such as the Talking Head Club. Baltimore club was featured in Spin Magazine in December 2005.[10][8]

Rod Lee was described as "the original don of Baltimore club" by The Washington Post in 2005.[11]"...

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INFORMATION ABOUT ROD LEE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rod_Lee
"Rod Lee is an American, Baltimore, Maryland-based DJ, record producer,[1] and party MC.[2] who is known for the popularization of Baltimore Club music. Described as "the original don of Baltimore Club" by The Washington Post, in 2005 he released "Vol. 5: the Official," a DJ mix that was the first Baltimore Club CD to be distributed nationally.[3] His productions have contributed to the success of local stars like Bossman and Paula Campbell.[1][4] He is the founder and owner of the Club Kingz record label.[3] and has independently released four mixtapes that have circulated around the mid-Atlantic, but primarily within his native city of Baltimore.

Lee is popular among Baltimore club-goers and Baltimore Club music fans.

His song "Dance My Pain Away" was featured on the soundtrack to the HBO series, The Wire.

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LYRICS: DANCE MY PAIN AWAY

(Written by Ron Lee)

[Intro]

Dance my pain away, I've got problems
Dance my pain away, I've got problems
Like woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, woah

[Verse1: Rod Lee]

Now listen to my story
Bill collectors on me
Have to file bankruptcy
Need some help from somebody
Doctor bills are stacking up
I'm desperate to make a buck
I played the lottery today
Won't you PLEASE listen up!

[Hook x2]

I'm gonna dance my pain away, I've got problems
Dance my pain away, I've got problems
Like woah, woah (yeah)
Woah, woah (yeah)
Woah, woah (yeah)
Woah, woah (yeah)

[Verse2: Rod Lee]

I just got laid off today
Whatcha think wifey will say
I just have to hope and pray
Rain, rain, go away
The repo man just hit me
I can't get from A to B
Fake friends around me
Lord, wontcha help me!
Now I'm on my tippy toes
Face down, eyes closed
Dancing to this melody
So please, won't you sing a song?

[Outro]

I'm gonna dance my pain away, I've got problems
Dance my pain away, I've got problems
Like woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, woah
I'm gonna dance my pain away, got problems
Dance my pain away, got problems
Like woah, woah (take your problems out on the dance floor)
Woah, woah
Woah, woah (dance your problems away)
Woah, woah
I'm gonna dance my pain away...
Dance my pain away...
Like woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, woah
Woah, Woah

Source: https://genius.com/Rod-lee-dance-my-pain-away-lyrics

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THIS SONG 


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y5Tg6l6UO0&list=RD7y5Tg6l6UO0&start_radio=1

This is the discussion thread for the sound file that is embedded in this pancocojams post.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

1. Ana James Manuel, 2013
"love this song and when you go through anything in life this song right here will lift your spirits"

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2. Tyler Moore, 2014
"Always got a spot in my heart for the Bmore club jams ! They used to be the staple of the Friday night firehouse dances back in middle/high school.  Bring backs so many memories of dance battles and dance moves . Ten+ years later and i still can't keep myself under control when the rythum touches my earsπŸ“£πŸ‘‚πŸ‘ŒπŸ–’πŸ”₯ can't anything compare!"

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3. tierra cox, 2015
"YESSSAA DANCE MY PAIN AWAY YO THIS STILL MY FAVORITE CLUB SONG FR FR"

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4. the mayor, 2017
"Classic I'm gonna dance my pain away πŸ’―πŸ’―πŸ’ͺ"

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5. Litty Carolina, 2018
"I love this song so much. We used to do our color guard practice warm ups to this. I miss being young. πŸ˜­πŸ˜’πŸ˜’πŸ˜”"

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6. SHEENA LOPEZZ. 2020
"2020 all this race stuff & killings, THIS GOTTA BE ON REPEAT!!! REAL TALK"

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7. Shireem Porter, 2020
"This is the perfect song for adults that go through real life problems..im ready to dance thus pain away"

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8.LyndellBmoreFreshKingHeartOfAChampion, 2020
"2020 still rocking & blazing straight up! BmoreFoLife!"

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9. The World Of Amor, 2020
"Back when Baltimore was fun ! Rip K Swift ! Listening in 2020"

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10. Michael Sanders, 2022
"Lol Baltimore clubs were dope  in the 70's and 80's  ask your grandparents about O'Dell,Gatsby  and giovanchys"

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11. jordannn, 2021
"Dis jawn still slapπŸ’―πŸ˜Ή"

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12. Empress Reekah, 2021
"Dance My pain Away I remember this 🎢 as a teen! #BmoreStandUp"

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Friday, June 24, 2022

(Jamaican Reggae/Dancehall Singer) Tenor Saw - "Ring the Alarm" (video, information, lyrics, & comments)



VP Records, Feb. 5, 2010

Classic Hit

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information about Jamaican Reggae singer Tenor Saw and showcases a YouTube video of Tenor Saw's 1985 classic song "Ring The Alarm". An article excerpt about "Ring The Alarm" is also included in this post along with a few comments from the discussion thread for that video.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.  

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Tenor Saw for his cultural legacy and thanks to all those who are associated with this embedded video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT TENOR SAW 
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tenor_Saw#:~:text=Clive%20Bright%20(2%20December%201966,on%20the%20%22Stalag%22%20riddim.
"Clive Bright (2 December 1966 – August 1988),[1] better known as Tenor Saw, was a Jamaican dancehall singjay in the 1980s, considered one of the most influential singers of the early digital reggae era. His best-known song was the 1985 hit "Ring the Alarm" on the "Stalag" riddim."...

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INFORMATION ABOUT TENOR SAW'S CLASSIC SONG "RING THE ALARM"
From  https://www.dancehallmag.com/2021/04/29/features/how-tenor-saws-ring-the-alarm-brought-soundclash-to-the-masses.html How Tenor Saw’s ‘Ring The Alarm’ Brought Soundclash To The Masses, by Sasha Lee, April 29, 2021
"For a vibrant display of the Jamaican trifecta — cunning, creativity, competitiveness — look no further than the island’s rich sound system heritage. These modes of performance and entertainment started in Kingston in the 1950s, providing a platform for an array of talent — selectors, toasters, engineers  —  while playing to crowds that could easily grow into the thousands.

Sound systems (essentially mobile discotheques) rose to prominence in the ’60s through famous sound system owners such as Arthur ‘Duke’ Reid (the Trojan Sound System and Treasure Isle Label) and Clement ‘Sir Coxsone’ Dodd (Downbeat Sound System and Studio One Recording Studio) who dominated Kingston’s nightscape with accompanying acts like Daddy U-Roy and King Stitt respectively.

Of all the acts who’ve injected flair into the art form, it was Clive Bright aka Tenor Saw who officially brought the concept of soundclash to the masses when he debuted the crucial anthem, Ring The Alarm, in 1985. The deejay was only 19 years old when he freestyled his way into the future – i.e. Dancehall – slinging rhymes while levelling the rival sounds.

The first time the late hitmaker performed the lethal classic is also hailed as another of Dancehall’s integral moments: the first soundclash. Held at Cinema II in New Kingston, the faceoff saw the island’s four biggest sound systems, Youth Promotion Soundstation (Tenor Saw’s stomping grounds owned by Sugar Minott), Black Scorpio, King Jammy’s Hi Fi, and Arrows International all vying for glory.

His deadly delivery of history as it unfolded swept the crowd and stole the crown: “Four big sounds inna one big lawn/ The Don sound a play, the other three keep calm/ Four big sounds inna one big lawn/ The boom sound a play, the other three keep calm/ Ring the alarm, another sound is dying, Whoa, Hey..” Two years later, he was killed in 1988, reportedly in a hit-and-run accident in Houston, Texas.”…

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LYRICS- "RING THE ALARM"
(Tenor Saw)

Intro]
Rrrrrr Ring!
Rrrrrr Ring!
Hey!
Ring the alarm
Hey!
Wooow...

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 1]

Some sound's sound like a big drum pan
Listen the sound, it a champion
Ram the dance inna any session
Rock up the woman, an rock up the man

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 2]

Tee-tah-toe, we beat them all in a row
Donkey waan water, but you hol’ him Joe
Tee-tah-toe, we beat them all in a row
Jackass waan water, but hol’ him Joe

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 3]

Four big sound's inna one big lawn
The Don sound a play, the other three keep calm
Four big sound's inna one big lawn
The boom sound a play, the other three keep calm

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 4]

Remember this sound, it a talk of the town
Talk of the country
Hey!
Oh rock, Mr. Charlie
Rock Miss Munchie
Talk of the country
So

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
I know, I know
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 5]

Watch the soundman a tremble
Watch the soundman a 'fraid
Watch the soundman a tremble
Watch the soundman a 'fraid

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
I know, I know
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 6]

Little of this and little of that
Rock sister Carmen, rock sister Pat
Rock the white, and rap up the black
Sweet reggae music gone pon the attack
Yes, pon the attack, it gone pon the attack
Sweet reggae music gone straight, non-stop

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!
Ring the alarm, another sound is suffering
Woow
Hey!

[Verse 1]

Some sound's sound like a big drum pan
Listen the sound, it a champion
Ram the dance inna any session
Rock up the woman, an rock up the man

[Hook]

Ring the alarm, another sound is suffering
Woow
Hey!
Ring the alarm, another sound is dying
Woow
Hey!

[Outro]

Beat them here and beat them there
We beat them all over this atmosphere
Champion sound, we just don’t care

Online source -  https://genius.com/Tenor-saw-ring-the-alarm-lyrics

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UpjLLw-cVzU

1. Kamille Richards, 2010
"Oh man, I remember from I was 7 my daddy use to play this in the car all the time. I'd be singing this and not have a clue what I'm singing about. This brings back good memories for reaal!"

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2. Duartt Bright, 2016
"Old school and so good!"

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3. Marseille Reggae Radio, 2016
"TUNE"

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4. RA, 2016
"THIS SONG EFFECTIVELY PUTS YOU BACK INTO TOUR GROOVE!"

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5. Katie-Jo, 2017
"Rest in peace Clive bright what a talented man love him"

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6. WUTANGNYC, 2017
"Gone Too Soon!. RIP THE GREAT TENOR SAW!!!!!!!"

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7. 
lingertooth, 2017
"Watch the soundman a tremble, watch the soundman afraid."

Crushing tune!"

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8. YAADZONE INC., 2017
"
One of the best Dancehall songs ever recorded. Magnum Opus."

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9. MiΕ‚osz B., 2021
"It's more dancehall, or more reggae?"

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10. Milkb4 Cereal,2022
"@MiΕ‚osz B.  definitely reggae"

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11. Malik Wright, 2022
"@Milkb4 Cereal  lol what? This a dancehall clash song. “Another sound(sound boy/dj) is dying” is literally context that it’s a dancehall sound used to clash also"

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12. Bobby Mobay, 2017
"Love the song but hate the video....smh. Have Jamaica looking like some bogwater country."

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13. With love, Stephanie Denise, 2018
"Bobby Mobay  no funds...they would have been better off with a video of a club scene...but there are parts of Jamaica that is very poor."

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14. Brandon N, 2018
"With love, Stephanie Denise I would have to say most of that sweet island is very poor"

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15. solwesfe, 2018
"Brandon Nevarez much of the island is far removed from the scenes in this video. Explain "very poor"? The island has been upgraded to a middle income country. However, there is no longer a Jamaican middle class but I think this is also the case for many other countries. Many nations are home to people who are becoming poorer."

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16. nanah p, 2020
"The video makes no sense."

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17. emobsta10, 2017
"Who remembers the first time they heard this gem. It picks you up and drops you into the heart of Jamaica  while dumplings stew in a pot, playing a game of dominoes and drinking a red stripe. excellent sound."

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18. Norrin Radd, 2019
"Or playing Lodi with pepper stew in the pot, rain drops on the tin roof. And a nice Guiness to wash it down 😁same vibe"

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19. selassie sun(TSTVπŸ‡―πŸ‡²), 2021
"Takes me back to granny yard real talk funny you mention dumpling stew dat a wanami favorite Sunday's bless up family πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²"

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20. Syzmik TV News, 2021
"I man was in #Montserrat a little Caribbean island known as the "Emerald Isle" ...Anyway it was a Friday night in #CorkHill village & it blaze through BIG GUNN SOUND SYSTEM"

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21. emobsta10, 2021
"@Syzmik TV News Yes brother, Monserrat was home to a famous recording studio used by some of the greats of music and entertainment. Never been myself but hear its a paradise"

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22. Gilb Errr?, 2021
"I heard this tune back in the 1990s at Notting Hill Carnival. Classic!"

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23. Emmanuel Mosoti, 2022
"Never had dumpling stew nor do I know what a red stripe is but yea.."

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24. Danilo Fonseca official, 2022
"This is the life, hear good music, drinking Red stripe, dumplings and dominoes"

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25. Jai B, 2022
"Reminds me when I was a kid in the late 80s my neighbours blasting this one summer...was hooked! Over 30 year's later, its still a staple for me!! ♥"️

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26. Abby Dollars, 2022
"dumpling stew in a pot lol"

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27. Sue black, 2022
"You took me there jus now bredda. Big up."

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28. BigBennKlingon, 2019
"The lyrics.. This is such a battle-rap song. You can really see how reggae like this influenced hip hop."

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29. A T, 2019
"This takes me back to my youth in the 1980s and 1990s in Toronto! Jammed enough times to this in high school and university. Those were legendary times."

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30. mister joe, 2020
"This tune reminds me of my youth in NYC.NYC was apocalyptic in the 80's you had the crack epidemic,killings were way up,the subway was a waste land full of graffiti.The most beautiful thing of that time was this gem of a tune that would fit perfectly in the NYC of that era.I remember blasting this tune on my mini boom box on 5 train from brooklyn to the bronx.Use to visit my familia in Morris Park in the Bronx from Flatbush Brooklyn blasting this gem."

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31. C S, 2021
"Same here growing up in Boston for me.  Or really anywhere on the East Coast in the 80's. Boston was becoming the wild west as well at that time.  Used jam this when we went and bought beef patties at this spot on Geneva Ave in Boston. Good memories.πŸ’―"

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32. Delmar 🧑🌺, 2022
"
Philadelphia too around that time Jamaican people were moving in my neighborhood especially rastafarians it was a crazy time"

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33. Sean Rock, 2020
"
BIG CHUNE!"

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34. Empress Jade Simeon Ellis, 2020
"
Chuh When Dance was Irie Jah Knows. Boom!"

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35. nakia X, 2020
"This song send a lot of sound boys to their grave ........ Best Dancehall funeral sendoff song ever"

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36. rich Mck, 2021
"If you live in Jamaica, then the best send-off you can have is hearing this at a SETUP.

Went to one last year, man, I tell you...All night till funeral time people did not stop!

This is the way to celebrate fi real!!!"

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37. Star Burst, 2020
"One of Jamaica's great legends that gone too soon. His song will live on."

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38. Sonia Allen, 2020
"Do they still have sound clash  and car stereo clash anymore?"

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39. Nik Ashford, 2021
"Bad as it gets! The word "anthem" gets banded around nowadays,  then a tune like this steps all over them. Unbeatable. A real unreachable bench mark."

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40. Dog Black, 2021
"This will 4ever B a classic in The Dance Hall , Clubs & Block Party's voice crazy like how the kids do it now with the Auto-Tune Hmmmm makes u think ?"

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41. T B, 2021
"Large Up the whole ah Caribbean"

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42. Akil Bhawansingh, 2021
"this sound give me goose bumps everytime I hear this sound I remember sound clash reel killing tune"

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43. Delmar 🧑🌺, 2021
"πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯ chune forever"

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44. Miles Crawford, 2021
"Rest In Peace ✌🏾 respect ! S/o from bedstuy Bklyn"

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45. Shane Lee, 2022
"He made this song while in the middle of a sound clash what a legend gone to soon I never comment but dis ere man deserve it for  real πŸ“²πŸ”Š"

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46. Sue black, 2022 
"Pull dis uppp sehlektah!!"

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Thursday, June 23, 2022

More Online Examples Of Autograph Book Rhymes

Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series on comments about and examples of autograph book verses.

This post presents examples of autograph book verses from websites other than Mudcat folk music forum.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/06/examples-of-autograph-book-rhymes-part.html for Part I of this pancocojams post. That post presents some comments and examples from a mudcat folk music forum discussion thread that I started Sept. 30, 2009.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric and historical purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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MORE ONLINE EXAMPLES OF AUTOGRAPH BOOK RHYMES

These examples are selected from other autograph verses that are included in these online sources. These sources are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only.

ONLINE SOURCE #1
From https://ameshistory.org/content/autograph-book-verses
"AUTOGRAPH BOOK VERSES

Verses Gleaned from 19th Century Autograph Books

Ames History Museum
Ames, Iowa 50010
info@ameshistory.org

When the golden sun is setting
And your mind from care is free
When of others you are thinking
Will you sometimes think of me.

- - -

When the golden sun is setting
And the birds are flitting free
When of dear ones you are thinking
Won't you sometimes think of me.

- - -

Think of me when you are happy
Keep for me one little spot
In the depth of thine affection
Plant a sweet forget me not.


I have your album in which to write
I've turned to a leaf that's pure and white
I dip my pen into the ink
I knit my brow and try to think
I think, I think, I think in vain
At last I think I'll sign my name.

- - -

A line of my writing
Oh! What shall it be,
A token of friendship
from Libbie to thee.

- - -

When you get old and cannot see
Put on your specks and think of me.

- - -

When at home and in the tub
Think of me and give a rub.


Remember me and my gray eyes
When you're at home and making pies.

May your friends be many
And your enemies few
May God be your guide
In what ever you do.
May your virtues ever shine
Like blossoms on a pumpkin vine.


Forget me not, forget me never
Till yonder sun shall set forever.

- - -

I only ask this little spot
In which to write Forget me not.

- - -

Here on this page I claim a spot
To write the word Forget me not.

- - -

I thought, I thought, I thought in vain
At last I thought I'd write my name."

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ONLINE SOURCE #2
From https://ameshistory.org/content/autograph-book-verses-0
"A faithful friend is hard to find
But, when you have one, bear in mind
As I shall, when I think of you
Being a lasting friend, both kind and true.

- - -

When on this page you cast your eye
Recall to mind the days gone by
Forget my faults and drop a tear
And think of me when no more here.

- - -

Mary Hodges is my name
England is my nation.
London is my dwelling place,
Christ is my salvation.

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When in a distant land
This little verse you see
Think of the gentle hand
That penned these lines for thee.

- - -

When you think of me
Please bear in mind
A truer friend
You scarce will find.

- - -

Remember me and bear in mind
A faithful friend is hard to find
And when you find one good and true
Change not the old one for the new.

- - -

Some may wish you happiness
Others wish you wealth
I wish you the best of all
Contentment and health.

- - -

Remember on the river
Remember on the lake
Remember on your wedding day
And give me a piece of your cake.

- - -

Age may mar, or time efface
The lines which kindly here I trace
But years may never take from mind
A friend that's ever true and kind.

- - -

When our life in school shall be at end
Please at times give thought of your true friend.

- - -

These few lines to you are tendered
From your sister sincere and true
Hoping but to be remembered
When I am far away from you.

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ONLINE SOURCE #3
From https://letterpile.com/personal-essays/Wise-Sayings-An-Old-Autograph-Book  "Wise Sayings: An Old Autograph Album" by Bronwen Scott-Branagan, September 27, 2017

..."Recently I came across my Mother's old Autograph Book. I used to have one, too, but I've moved several times and that hasn't turned up yet. However, there were plenty of entries in hers to entertain me as a child and that delight has not diminished.

There's such a range, from the downright sententious, to lovely thoughts about the importance of friendship, to sayings that today we would view as sexist and politically incorrect, to the clever and funny. There are even delightful illustrations. I remember how we, too, if asked to write and entry in a friend's book, would request to take it home so we could find just the right thing to write, or to spend hours over a miniature illustration.

I haven't put them all in, but even so it's turned out quite long, so it's probably best if you just browse a few. They are fun to read.

The First Entry
I remember that in my album, a cheeky friend scrawled,

"By hook or by crook
I'll be first in this book."

Mother wrote her own first entry:

"My album's open, come and see.
 What, won't you waste a line on me?
Write but a thought, a word or two,
hat memory may revert to you."

[…]

Christian And Moral Entries

[…]

This next one must have impressed my Mother as she often quoted it to me.

"I would rather be beaten in the right than succeed in the wrong."

[…]

The hand here is more mature than some of the entries; perhaps it was a teacher.

"There is so much good in the worst of us,
And so much bad in the best of us,
That it behoves us
To speak the least of any of us."

[…]

The Importance of Friendship

I've seen different versions of this one, but they all mean the same thing:

"True friends, like diamonds,
Are precious and rare;
False ones, like autumn leaves,
Are found everywhere."

[...]

"I wish you happiness and health,
All the wealth you need;
Friends in plenty, tried and true,
What more is there I could wish for you."

[...]

This is in the days when most of the washing was first rubbed or scrubbed on a board, boiled in a copper, transferred to a wooden trough with a copper-stick to be rinsed, 'blued' if it were white, and wound through a mangle (being very careful not to pull off buttons) before being hung out to dry.

"When you are married and at the tub,
Think of me with every rub,
And if the suds be very hot,
Render away and forget-me-not".

[…]


The Humorous Entries

 [...]

"He that sitteth on a pin,
Shall surely rise again
According to the sharpness thereof."

[…]

"There are many things we ought to do:
We ought to sing, we ought to laugh,
We ought to eat, we ought to sleep,
But here we (ought to graph) autograph."

[...]

Beecham's Pills, as you may imagine, were for treating constipation. This little verse is usually written:

"Mary had a little watch,
She swallowed it one day,
And now she takes Beecham's Pills
To pass the time away.

Caption:
If we were to dress ourselves on scientific principles, what would become of man?"

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ONLINE SOURCE #4
From https://wordnymph.com/tag/rhyming-verses-for-autograph-books/ rhyming verses for autograph books, Word Nymph, May 3, 2012 · 7:55 AM
"I’ve hit the mother lode (note, not mother load) of mementos.

My husband has been cleaning out our attic, and my box of collected treasures has emerged from the clutter. I’ve scooped out just the first layer, so let’s call this post the first in a series. There are sure to be more.

In this tranche were all those charms I thought I’d lost, some religious relics, including my First Holy Communion book, an Immaculate Conception medal and an honorable mention certificate from Saint Dominic’s Catholic School in Shaker Heights, Ohio. There were a few old pictures, lots of cards and letters and my photo album from summer semester in Spain.

My favorite relic to be unearthed was an autograph book I got as a souvenir of Disneyland when my father took me there in 1969. I scored no celebrity autographs, unless you count that of the five-year-old daughter of the TV comedy writer with whom we stayed in L.A.

[…]

The other pages hold what we all know as autograph book rhymes. Things like:

Don’t worry if your pay is small, and if your jobs are few.
Remember that the mighty oak was once a nut like you.


Remember the girl in the city. Remember the girl in the town.
Remember the girl who ruined your book by writing upside down.

 

See you in the ocean, see you in the sea.
See you in the bathtub. Oops, pardon me.

 

When you’re in heaven and it gets hot,
Pepsi-cola hits the spot.


When you get married and live in a hut,
Send me a picture of your first little nut.

 

When you get married and you have twins
Don’t come to me for safety pins.

 

It tickles me and makes me laugh
To think you want my autograph.

 

Never kiss by the garden gate
Because love is blind but the neighbors ain’t.

 

When I turned 50, my father gave me his mother’s autograph book, which is dated 1927 — 42 years before I had christened mine.

Allow me to share a few ditties from my grandmother’s crackled pages:

 

Lock up thy heart, keep safe the key,
Forget me not, til I do thee.

 

I wish I were a bunny with a little tail of fluff.
I’d climb upon your bureau and be your powder puff.

Some write for money, some write for fame,
But I write for the honor of signing just my name.

 

Down by the river there lies a rock,
And on it is printed, “Forget me not.”


If you get married and live upstairs,
For heaven’s sake, don’t put on airs.”
-snip-
Here are two autograph book rhymes that commenters shared:
 

Aunt Patsy

May 3, 2012 at 2:31 pm

Round as a ring that has no end, that is my love for you my friend. I loved reading this blog and I will see you at lunch tomorrow.

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Kathleen

May 3, 2012 at 9:37 pm

From my dad’s leather autograph book…

Y Y U R

Y Y U B

Me thinks U R

Y Y 4 me."

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ONLINE SOURCE #5
From https://libraries.udmercy.edu/find/special_collections/digital/cfa/index.php?field=keyword&term=ABCB& The James T. Callow Folklore Archive
"YOUR HEART IS NOT A PLAYGROUND,
YOUR HEART IS NOT A TOY,
BUT IF YOU WANT IT BROKEN,
JUST GIVE IT TO A BOY.
WANT IT BROKEN, JUST GIVE IT TO A BOY.

Submitter comment: THIS VERSE WAS TAKEN FROM AN AUTOGRAPH BOOK BELONGING TO THE INFORMANT,WHO IS MY MOTHER. THIS SAME VERSE WAS FOUND THREE TIMES IN THE BOOK, SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN A POPULAR VERSE WITH THE EIGHTH GRADE
AT NICHOLS SCHOOL IN DETROIT, JUNE 1944.

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AUTOGRAPH VERSE (COLLECTOR'S TITLE)
I THOUGHT AND THOUGHT, I THOUGHT IN VAIN,
BUT ALL I COULD THINK OF WAS TO SIGN MY NAME.

Submitter comment: THIS ITEM WAS WRITTEN IN THE AUTOGRAPH BOOK OF COLETTE'S BY A SCHOOLMATE.

Where learned: NOT RECORDED BY COLLECTOR

[…]

Autograph Verse Announcing a signature

Date learned: 10-08-1967

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AUTOGRAPH BOOK (COLLECTOR'S TITLE)

IT TICKLES ME/ IT MAKES ME LAUGH/ TO THINK YOU WANT/ MY AUTOGRAPH

Data entry tech comment: LINES DIVIDED BY KEYPUNCHER

Where learned: NOT RECORDED BY COLLECTOR

[…]

Autograph Verse Announcing a signature

Date learned: 09-00-1968

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LOOK NOT (COLLECTOR'S TITLE)

LOOK NOT FOR THE BEAUTY/ NOR WHITENESS OF THE SKIN.
BUT LOOK FOR THE HEART/ THAT IS LOYAL WITHIN.
FOR BEAUTY MAY FADE/ AND SKIN GROW OLD,
BUT THE HEART THAT IS LOYAL,/ WILL NEVER GROW OLD.

Submitter comment: LEARNED IN DETROIT.

Autograph Verse

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AUTOGRAPH BOOK VERSE (COLLECTOR'S TITLE)

YOUR LIFE LIES BEFORE YOU,/ LIKE A BANK OF SNOW,/ BE CAREFUL HOW YOU
TREAD IT,/ FOR EVERY STEP WILL SHOW.

Where learned: MICHIGAN ; DETROIT

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