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Saturday, June 29, 2024

Article Excerpts About The Population Referents "ADOS" (American Descendants Of Slaves) And "FBA" (Foundational Black Americans)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest update- July 2, 2024 

This pancocojams post presents excerpts from several selected online articles about ADOS (American Descendants Of Slaves) And FBA (Foundational Black Americans).

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/07/byron-donals-jim-crow-comments-and.html for the closely related pancocojams post entitled "
Byron Donalds' "Jim Crow" Comments And YouTube Comments About Byron Donalds Being A "Tether" (A Black Person Whose Ancestry Isn't From The United states)."

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This pancocojams post isn't meant to be a presentation of information about what ADOS and FBA are or have been. Instead, most of the article excerpts that are quoted in this post provide opinions that are critical of those concepts and/or movements.
 
People who use the terms "ADOS" and/or "FBA" wouldn't consider me eligible to a member of either of these population groups. That is because I am Black Caribbean on my mother's side and I 
can't trace any enslaved Black American ancestry on my father's side. (My father was adopted from New York state by a Black family in Michigan. I believe that he was Black/White racially mixed, but I don't know anything about his ancestry.)

I consider myself to be pan-African in ideology and I'm highly distrustful of the motivations of the founders and spokespersons of both the ADOS and the FBA movements/lineages.

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ARTICLE EXCERPTS
These excerpts are presented in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only. 

EXCERPT #1
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Descendants_of_Slavery
"American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) is a term referring to descendants of enslaved Africans in the area that would become the United States (from its colonial period onward), and to the political movement of the same name. Both the concept and the movement grew out of the hashtag #ADOS created by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore.[1]

The ADOS movement focuses mainly on demanding reparations for the system of slavery in the United States.[2] They want colleges, employers and the federal government to prioritize ADOS and argue that affirmative action policies originally designed to help ADOS have been used largely to benefit other groups.[2]

Supporters of the ADOS movement say they should have their own ethnic designation on census forms and college applications, and should not be lumped in with other Black people—namely modern Black African immigrants to the United States and Black immigrants from the Caribbean.[2]

[…]

A distinguishing feature of the ADOS movement is its explicit emphasis on black Americans who descended from slavery and its disagreements with black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean.[2] The group demands "a new designation on the Census with ADOS and another for Black immigrants" to the United States.[4] Supporters of ADOS push the issue on social media with the hashtag #ADOS and state that it "sets out to shift the dialogue around the identity of what it is to be African American in an effort to move the discussion from melanin and properly center the discussion around lineage";[5] they view ADOS as having distinct interests from broader groups, such as people of color or ethnic minorities generally.[3]

[…]

In 2019, some ADOS activists challenged Kamala Harris's authenticity as a Black woman, asserting that she was not "African American" (Harris's father is Jamaican American). The claim suggested that black Americans of immigrant descent, even from countries with a history of slavery under colonial rule (such as Jamaica) do not share the same struggle against racism and discrimination as the descendants of Black people in the United States.[3] The claim that Harris was not authentically black was amplified by right-wing figures, including Donald Trump Jr., and criticized by civil rights leaders,[3] who accused Carnell of engaging in xenophobic "birtherism."[2] Carnell and Moore have also criticized the African-American intellectual Ta-Nehisi Coates for his past support of Barack Obama because of his pushing only for a public study of reparations rather than endorsing reparations.[3]

[...]

Size of movement

The movement is "tiny but outspoken";[3] the number of active supporters is believed to be in the thousands.[2]"...

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EXCERPT #2
From https://ibw21.org/commentary/understanding-ados-movement-hijack-black-identity-weaken-black-unity/ Understanding ADOS:- The Movement To Hijack Black Identity And Weaken Black Unity
By IBW21, January 21, 2020; Prepared By Jessica Ann Mitchell Aiwuyor
"Introduction

The term “American Descendants of Slavery” (ADOS) was created in 2016 to describe and distinctly separate Black Americans/African Americans from Black immigrant communities (Africans, Afro-Caribbeans, Afro-Latinos, etc). The movement claims to advocate for reparations on behalf of Black Americans.

However, this movement’s leadership is linked to right-wing media and white supremacists that have a history of attempting to cause divisions in the Black community,” ADOS leaders say they’ll use the moniker “ADOS” as part of their legal justice claim for reparations. But instead, it is likely to be used to create policies that would further marginalize and oppress Black communities. The ADOS movement is particularly seeking to impact the 2020 presidential election, the 2020 census, and beyond.

ADOS appears to be a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign using the combination of African American history (in order to build trust) along with disinformation and misinformation tactics. Yet, with the support of economist Dr. William “Sandy” Darity and Dr. Cornel West, the ADOS movement has been able to garner legitimacy in various circles – allowing it to grow through support from unsuspecting Black Americans that support reparations.

[…]

ADOS leaders do not believe that Black Americans can or should have any connection with Africa. They tell their followers to trace their lineage to America only and to stop acknowledging Africa as the home of our ancestors.

ADOS leaders have stated that Pan Africanism is dead and that African Americans are more closely connected genetically to white Americans than other people of African descent.”…
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The bold font was originally used in this article

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EXCERPT #3
From https://www.amazon.com/Foundational-Black-American-Who-Are/dp/B094NTGJY9 Foundational Black American Who We Are Paperback – May 9, 2021 by Christopher L Bowe DC (Author)
"A Foundational Black American is any person classified as Black, who can trace their bloodline lineage back to the American system of slavery. To be designated as a FBA, at least one parent must come from a non-immigrant background in The United States of America. If a person's matrilineal and patrilineal lineage traces back to slavery in the Caribbean, then they are not considered a Foundational Black American."...

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EXCERPT #4
From https://newsone.com/4375128/foundational-black-americans-explained/ Foundational Black Americans: Who Are They And What Do They Stand For? Written by Shannon Dawson, July 19, 2022

"Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch.

Over the last year, you may have seen the phrase Foundational Black American (FBA) tossed around the internet thanks to the “World’s #1 Race Baiter,” Tariq Nasheed. In January, during a Twitter Spaces discussion, the controversial media personality sent the buzzword trending when he argued that Black Americans were the originators of the United States. Since then, the polarizing author and documentarian’s belief has attracted millions of supporters from the Black community, many of whom claim they too identify as a Foundational Black American. But what does the term mean exactly?

The History of the Foundational Black American

According to the Official FBA website, [https://officialfba.com/] Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch. Followers of the ideology, however, believe that the origins and history of Foundational Black Americans did not begin at the start of slavery in the early 1600s. They strongly believe that FBA’s settled in North America in 1526, when they were allegedly brought over from the Caribbean by a “colonizer” named Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón.

Ayllón and 600 of his men settled on what would later become the South Carolina and Georgia Coast, but they weren’t there for long. The enslaved Black captives organized a successful rebellion against the Spanish colonizers, ultimately forcing them to retreat.

FBA historians believe that the liberated Black people integrated with local Native American tribes in the region and formed their own community and culture as a result.

[…]

The ideology of FBA’s

[…]

On social media, proud FBA ideologists often debate that American lawmakers should pay some form of restitution or even reparations for the “400 years of unpaid slave labour” they endured.

[…]

FBA’s don’t believe in the concept of pan-Africanism. They believe they are a unique ethnic group with complex cultural and societal ideologies different from Africans and other Black immigrants.  Community members often call those who do not identify with the culture “non-FBAs.”

Some FBA-identifying individuals believe that Africans and other Black immigrant communities do not respect them and their lived experiences throughout history.”…

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EXCERPT #5
From https://honestmediablog.com/2019/11/12/whats-the-difference-between-fba-and-ados/ "What’s The Difference Between FBA and ADOS?" Posted by Broderick Russell Jr, November 12, 2019
"Social media is a hub for political commentary, and it’s been my go-to for information on grassroots organizations. In a previous post, the now mainstream ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement and their agenda was addressed. Well, there’s another movement, somewhat similar to ADOS, that’s gotten my attention. FBA (Foundational Black American).

Film producer, author, and radio personality Tariq Nasheed, who coined the term, advised that Foundational Black American refers to one’s culture and lineage; it is not a group or organization. With FBA, you don’t have to have a specific political affiliation, group chapters, or events.

There’s been some discourse between both FBA and ADOS creators, most notably on Twitter, around the lack of clarity for the ADOS movement. The New York Times write-up for ADOS seemed to have been one of the precursors.

[…]

Both Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore have reiterated that the ADOS movement is a political movement centered around lineage, reparations, and a Black Agenda for African Americans. They had a successful conference at Simmons College of Kentucky this past October, and guest speakers included Marianne Williamson and Dr. Cornel West. Several local chapters have been created in the process as well. “…

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EXCERPT #6
From https://dwomowale.medium.com/why-pan-africanism-matters-lessons-from-ados-vs-fba-c643223b5672 "Why Pan-Africanism Matters: Lessons from ADOS vs. FBA" by Dwayne Wong (Omowale), Nov 13, 2019
…"My initial issue with ADOS was the manner in which the ADOS supporters were criticizing Pan-Africanism. The other issue that I had is how misinformed the ADOS movement has been. Here are just some examples of things that I have addressed. Yvette claimed that the Dutch invented dashikis and then sold them to African slave traders, which was utterly false. Antonio Moore (Tone Talks) has said that people in Africa do not identify as Africans. To help cure his ignorance on this matter, I invited him to Africans Rising’s African Liberation Day mobilization event to show Tone and others in ADOS that there is a very strong Pan-African movement in Africa. Then there are the ADOS supporters who keep spreading the untruth that Marcus Garvey came to America because he didn’t have support in Jamaica. So I have always seen ADOS as a very divisive and misinformed movement made up of people who don’t understand very much about African history, Pan-Africanism, or even their own history as African Americans.

For the most part, the people who supported the ADOS/FBA movement did not seem bothered by the divisiveness of their own movement, until recently when that movement began turning against itself when Tariq Nasheed fell out with Tone and Yvette. One of the issues that Tariq raised is the question of whether or not ADOS is a group or a lineage.

[…]

The problem is that Tone and Yvette are the founders of ADOS. They are the ones who created the label, so ultimately they are the ones to define what ADOS is. Tariq decided to use Foundational Black American (FBA) and then began using FBA interchangeably with ADOS, which created a lot of confusion. People were treating ADOS and FBA as if they were the same thing, but they are not. ADOS is Yvette and Tone’s movement. They co-founded it and continue to remind people that they are the founders of ADOS. It is their movement, not Tariq’s, although Tariq supported ADOS and helped the movement to spread.

[…]

I’ve argued that ADOS was not only divisive because of the line that it tries to draw between African Americans and other African descendants, but the movement has led to a lot of petty infighting among African Americans.

[…]

In my most recent article I addressed Morpheus Unplugged. When ADOS really started gaining traction he was one of those people who tried to present ADOS as a more practical alternative to Pan-Africanism. He recorded a video explaining why he choose ADOS over Pan-Africanism.

[…]

I mention Morpheus Unplugged because he seem to take serious issue with my argument that ADOS is a movement that is mostly talk and little action, but his response to the claims that myself and others have made is to do more videos where he talks about debunking Pan-Africanism. Again, more talk. As I explained in an article on why Togo is an example of modern Pan-Africanism, there are certain political and economic realities which makes Pan-Africanism necessary. No amount of YouTube videos talking about debunking Pan-Africanism can actually undo those realities. Doing so requires work and it requires organization, but the problem with ADOS is that it is a completely disorganized movement. As Morpheus himself admitted, ADOS seems to be imploding.

[…]

Morpheus had some very strong criticisms against me when I began criticizing ADOS. Perhaps if he listened to me he wouldn’t now be expressing concern about the fighting between Tariq and the ADOS co-founders. Morpheus himself said that choose the ADOS movement over Pan-Africanism, and even used the fact that I am a Guyanese to criticize me, rather than addressing my points directly. This the result of siding with a divisive movement that is largely built on personalized attacks against other African people. As I noted before, so long as the divisiveness was aimed towards Caribbean and African people there was no problem, but it’s a problem now because of the internal conflict within ADOS/FBA.

[…]

For some reason the ADOS movement thought that they could spread division and confusion among African people and that it the consequences of doing so would not eventually poison their own movement.

[…]

I just hope everyone who is paying attention to the conflict between ADOS and FBA understands why the ideology of Pan-Africanism is important. Pan-Africanism isn’t about building Wakanda, as Morpheus Unplugged suggests. Pan-Africanism has always been about African people uniting towards a common purpose. The ADOS vs. FBA dispute just further proves why we need unity instead of movements that are built on historical ignorance and divisive rhetoric."

Dwayne is the author of several books on the history and experiences of African people, both on the continent and in the diaspora. His books are available through Amazon. You can also follow Dwayne on Facebook and Twitter."

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EXCERPT #7
From https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTheCaribbean/comments/1ckcn36/do_you_think_the_adosfba_movement_is_a_divide_and/ 
Do you think the ADOS/FBA movement is a divide and conquer strategy funded by conservatives in The US government?
[Pancocojams Editor Note: These are selected excerpts from that subreddict discussion thread. If you're interested in this subject, my recommendation is that you read that entire discussion thread.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.]


r/AskTheCaribbean
1. JungianFox, April 2024
Go to AskTheCaribbean

"First, I’m a Black/African American with Pre-Civil War roots and I’ve been growing concerned with all the online BS activism and all these grifters co-opting actual concerns for American Black people.

ADOS stands for American Descendants of Slavery. FBA stands for Foundational Black Americans. Both ideologies are designed to delineate Pre-Civil War African Americans from other black diaspora groups and one of the goals for this is to make it easier to obtain reparations.

At first I was in support for ADOS/FBA because I definitely feel African Americans need a more specific term for our ethnicity and cultural lineage especially in regard to reparations and restorative justice. However the further I gotten into the movement, I noticed the alignment with Republicans and far right movements. Also the xenophobia, anti-African bias and colorism (many exaggerating the European DNA we have - rape blood ain’t no flex and Caribbeans are mixed too). Also what’s annoying is I grew up in the Northeast and had Caribbean, Latino and African friends and they were all Black to me. Also I never felt any confusion over who was who because they did all claim their heritage from the Caribbean or Africa.

Also, people forget Harry Belafonte, Shirley Chisholm, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Cicely Tyson and others have Caribbean roots. And we all face anti-black racism and share a similar history of slavery and colonization. And it seems stupid to argue over lineage. Majority of Black people in The US are Pre-Civil War Afro Americans and nobody is replacing us. It’s literally the same fear that racist white Anglo Americans had over every immigrant group like the Irish, Italians, Germans, Chinese and now Latinos and Indians.

And we know that governments have used the internet for social engineering and propaganda just like they did with old school media. Because before Twitter, nobody was arguing about this.

We all Black at the end of the day and I hope this FBA/ADOS nativist nonsense doesn’t go beyond the chronically online. Power is in numbers"

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2. adoreroda, April 2024
"
The ADOS/FBA movement isn't an organisation, it's an ideology, so it's nothing that the GOP could fund to begin with. The only thing you are right about is that it is a conservative movement, but the difference is that many if not most black americans are very~extremely socially conservative and are only liberal on paper (largely voting democrat) pretty much only because of race issues. The average cishet "ADOS" black man whether they be from the north, south, or west has similar values to a conservative (southern) white man if you pushed aside the views of race (particularly on topics of queer acceptance, feminism, religious tolerance, diversity, etc.)

It also doesn't help that extreme conservatives and racists are given platforms and often praised within the American-Black (ADOS/FBA whatever) community (people such as Umar Johnson, Hebrew Israelites, erasure of indigenous american history and saying that they were actually African and that black people are the real native americans, etc.) Even amongst white americans extremists like this (equivalents would be people like Nick Fuentes) are not widely regarded or at least superficially accepted compared to black equivalents"

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3.JungianFox/ OP, April 2024
"It’s infuriating because so many of my people are so uneducated on the left and radical views of activists like WEB Dubois, Booker T Washington, Dr King, Malcolm X, Huey P Newton, Monroe Trotter, Lucy Parsons, Ella Baker and Fannie Lou Hamer were. Many people don’t know Pan-Africanism goes back to the 1800s among Black American intellectuals. It definitely seems Evangelical Christianity and cults like NOI and Israelites did a number on a lot of us to be indoctrinated into regressive social values."
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"NOI"=Nation Of Islam

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4. 
adoreroda, April 2024
"I think to certain extents it's resentment for Afro-Caribbeans and African immigrants (or their recent ancestors/descendants i.e. children grandparent w/e) often having better predicaments than their ADOS counterparts, especially Jamaicans and Nigerian Americans. Also doesn't help that the first black president and black vice president (and female vice president) are African and Caribbean rather than ADOS.

I also think something a lot of ADOS (only using this term to distinguish them from Caribbeans and Africans) is that they are very American in their thinking and can't process anything outside of their own framework (ethnocentrism) and also often look down on people who are culturally different from them, even other ADOS (especially queer black people or specifically queer ADOS). The American mindset often times--and especially the conservative variant--is very much "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down"".

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5. 
 my_deleted-account_,April 2024
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Yvette Carnell and PFIR tried their right-wing anti-immigrant pity party only to see it get screwed up by COVID-19. Tariq Nasheed's involvement makes it FBADOSism impossible as a mainstream political force.

The saddest part is that all their so-called evidence, when examined are lies, with usually the exact opposite being true."
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Click https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2010/10/08/anti-immigrant-groups-continue-greenwashing-campaign for a 2010 news article about the Progressives For Immigration Reform (PFIR). 

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6. 
Specialist-Smoke, June 2024
"
Anytime Steve Bannon is on your side, you're moving in the wrong direction. There's a reason Bannon wants you to focus on slavery. There's no viable path for reparations through slavery. The path to reparations will have to be for what happened after slavery. When Black people paid taxes and didn't recieve the protection of the government.

As with the NOI, the ADOS people are asking for something Bannon can't and won't give. Also as with the NOI, if the KKK supports you and agrees with your message, you're broken and need a new message that doesn't resonate with those whom hate you.

I'm blocked by damn near every ADOS ijiot. I call them out on their love for their colonizer DNA, they're slippery grasp on history, and most importantly, how they sound just like white supremacist. The truth hurts."

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Specialist-Smoke, 2024
"So do we stop claiming those who aren't FBA? How is this different from other races who do this? You can't separate Black people from other Black groups of people. Slave records aren't well kept, so how would you know if a Black person had roots in slavery?

It's a reductive movement meant to appease and never obtain results. If Bannon, Steve Bannon supports you, then you need to rethink your rethoric."

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EXCERPT#8
From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tether
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Tether

AS Defined by FBA's

Background Information: FBA(Foundational Black Americans) refers to the LINEAGE OF Black people who are the descendants of those blacks who were enslaved during the period of U.S chattel slavery. Those include:

-native born indigenous black Americans

- Black Freemen

- the 3% or so of Africans arriving during the American slave trade and mixed in with the natives.

Tether refers to a subset of black immigrants arriving mostly after changes to the 1965 Naturalization and Immigration Laws, whom appear to have an Anti-FBA, sociopolitical agenda to replace them and undermine their efforts to pursue protections legislation, long overdue reparations from the U.S Government, and other resources that were originally earmarked to benefit FBAs. FBA's interpret the actions of these "tethers" as traitorous and treasonous since they were primarily responsible for fighting to have the 1965 immigration laws changed and amended to allow black immigrants an unprecedented pathway to citizenship in the U.S. NOTE THE DISTINCTION being made: A "tether" does not refer to "ALL" black immigrants as suggested by the hyperbole of those black immigrants who would be considered "tethers" by FBA's. This only refers to those insurgent black immigrants who move to undermine the efforts of FBAs.

A black immigrant acting as a tether will frequently undermine the efforts of FBAs

by July 3, 2022 [no screen name given]

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3 comments:

  1. Since around 2020, I've come across a few comments on YouTube discussion threads from people who identify themselves as FBA. Less often, I've come across some commenters on YouTube discussion threads who identify themselves as ADOS.

    In both cases, the usual responses from other Black Americans have been to either ignore those comments, or to respond with disdainful or critical remarks such as "Get out of here with that sh-t." or "We don't want to hear none of that crazy talk".

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  2. I believe the portion of the Wikipedia article about ADOS that I quoted above which indicates that movement's opposition to Kamala Harris' candidacy for Vice President i(because she has Caribbean ancestry) was one strategy that was used in 2020 to attempt to minimize the number of African Americans who would vote for Democrats.

    In 2024 that strategy may still be in play, but Republicans and other political parties have new? divide and conquer strategies such as the rise in online videos and articles that are disparaging and/or outright critical of historically Black Greek letter fraternities and sororities/Boule), including individuals who post YouTube videos about why they've decided to publicly denounce one of those organizations that they joined. (Note: It's not just that Vice President Kamala Harris is a member of one of those sororities, but it's also that those historically Black Greek letter organizations have been quite active in helping to get out the vote.)

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  3. I keep on coming across the acronym "FBA" (for the movement/lineage Foundational Black American) in YouTube comment threads (published since at least 2022 or so). Here's an example from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPYrmKcEO2I&t=2s Talent Show 2014 - Double Dutch, published by talentshowfrance, April 24, 2014 (This video showcases an African American team jumping Double Dutch).

    @Tashaten, 2023
    "I love you FBA!!! You are amazing culture to America!!!!"

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