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Thursday, July 30, 2026

Race, Standards Of Beauty, The Odyssey Epic Poem, And Television & Movie Adaptations (Video & Comments)

 

Odysseus Meets Calypso

@WolfStrife, May 10, 2025

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents some information about "The Odyssey" Greek epic poem with a focus on Helen of Troy and The goddess Calypso..

This post showcases a YouTube video that features African American beauty pageant winner and actress Vanessa Williams as the Greek goddess Calypso in a 1997 American television series adaptation of The Odyssey.

Selected comments from the discussion thread of that video. A number of those comments refer to the casting of Kenyan-Mexican actress Lupita Nyong'o as Helen of Troy in Christopher Nolan's 2026 movie adaptation of The Odyssey.

Vanessa Williams is a light skinned Black woman and Lupita Ngong'o is a dark skinned Black woman.

The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos and thanks to all those who are quoted in this pancocojams post.
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Click the  tags below for additional upcoming pancocojams posts about "The Odyssey" or about race and Greek mythology and/or ancient Greek culture.

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SOME INFORMATION ABOUT THE GREEK POEM KNOWN AS "THE ODYSSEY"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odyssey
"The Odyssey ... Ancient Greek: Ὀδύσσεια, romanized: Odýsseia [odýsseːa])[2] is one of two major epics of ancient Greek literature attributed to Homer. It is one of the oldest surviving works of literature and remains popular with modern audiences. Like the Iliad, the Odyssey is divided into 24 books. It follows the heroic king of Ithaca, Odysseus, also known by the Latin variant Ulysses, and his homecoming journey after the ten-year-long Trojan War. His journey from Troy to Ithaca lasts an additional ten years, during which time he encounters many perils and all of his crewmates are killed. In Odysseus's long absence, he is presumed dead, leaving his wife Penelope and son Telemachus to contend with a group of unruly suitors competing for Penelope's hand in marriage.

The Odyssey was first composed in Homeric Greek around the 8th or 7th century BC; by the mid-6th century BC, it had become part of the Greek literary canon. In antiquity, Homer's authorship was taken as true, but contemporary scholarship predominantly assumes that the Iliad and the Odyssey were composed independently, as part of long oral traditions. Given widespread illiteracy, the poem was performed for an audience by an aoidos or rhapsode.

Key themes in the epic include the ideas of nostos (νόστος; 'return', homecoming), wandering, xenia (ξενία; 'guest-friendship'), testing, and omens. Scholars discuss the narrative prominence of certain groups within the poem, such as women and slaves, who have larger roles than in other works of ancient literature. This focus is especially remarkable when contrasted with the Iliad, which centers upon the exploits of soldiers and kings during the Trojan War.

The Odyssey is regarded as one of the most significant works of the Western canon. The first complete English translation of the Odyssey was in 1616. Adaptations and re-imaginings continue to be produced across a wide variety of media. In 2018, when BBC Culture polled experts around the world to find literature's most enduring narrative, the Odyssey topped the list."...
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Odyssey_(2026_film) for information about the 2026 American movie The Odyssey that was written and directed by Christopher Nolan.

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INFORMATION ABOUT HELEN OF TROY
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helen_of_Troy
"Helen ... commonly known as Helen of Troy[3][4] and sometimes as Helen of Sparta,[5] is a figure in Greek mythology said to have been the most beautiful woman in the world. She was believed to have been the daughter of Zeus by Leda or Nemesis, and the sister of Clytemnestra, Castor, Pollux, Philonoe, Phoebe and Timandra. She was first married to King Menelaus of Sparta....[2] Her subsequent marriage[c] to Paris of Troy was the most immediate cause of the Trojan War."...
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Helen of Troy is a fictional character. 

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE GREEK GODDESS CALYPSO
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_(mythology)
"In Greek mythology, Calypso ... Ancient Greek: Καλυψώ, romanized: Kalypsṓ, lit. 'she who conceals')[1] was a nymph who lived on the island of Ogygia, where, according to Homer's Odyssey, she detained Odysseus for seven years against his will. She promised Odysseus immortality if he would stay with her, but Odysseus preferred to return home. Eventually, after the intervention of the other gods, Calypso was forced to let Odysseus go.

Etymology

The name Calypso derives from the Greek καλύπτω (kalyptō),[2][3] meaning 'to cover', 'to conceal', or 'to hide';[3][4] as such, her name translates to 'she who conceals'.[5]"...
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The goddess Calypso is a fictional character.
 
The Greek name "Calypso" has a different etymology (origin and meaning) than the Calypso Caribbean music genre.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS VIDEO
(All of these comments were published in July 2026 after Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey movie was released.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)

https://youtube.com/shorts/bQDGOT3_jxs?si=cpgzyyGY-9WeeVC6

1. @christophertorak
"Now THAT's my Calypso❣️😍"

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2. @WolfStrife
"💯"

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3. @RosaHuchin-d9y
"Totalmente de acuerdo y por milllllll🍷🍷🍷"
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Google translate from Spanish to English
"Totally agree, and a million times over! 🍷🍷🍷"

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3. @Heydude-u8w
"Are you nuts? Charlize is top"
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Charlize Theron is a White South African actress who is casted as Calypso in Christopher Nolan's 2026 movie The Odyssey

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4. @matthix2678
"Now if Vanessa played Helen we can have a conversation."

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5. @blackswanrevelations
"Isn’t Vanessa Williams black? Wasn’t that the whole thing actors couldn’t act like other races? Very silly to me. Troy is still my fav movie."

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6. @IfyOgwude
"@blackswanrevelations she is ambigous enough for their sensibilities apparently"

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7. @pamelajudithrwanyarare8429
"@blackswanrevelations Helen of Troy is fiction. It's mythology meaning there was never a person in real life called Helen of Troy just like there was never an Odysseus or Andromeda or Apollo etc. All these are fantasies. And if it's fantancy anyone can play it."

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8. @Xxd414
"@pamelajudithrwanyarare8429  why does it matter that it's fictional? It's part of Greek culture and history. It seems like European stories are allowed to be anything but other races it's a problem. Respect others cultures as you want for yours."

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9. @akarus451
"​ @pamelajudithrwanyarare8429 is a fiction story from a real life culture and country. Imagine doing a Nordic Mythology and Thor, Loki are asian lol that is disrepectful af "

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10. @pamelajudithrwanyarare8429
"@akarus451 No it's not. White people or Europeans don't own the copyright to fantasy, human beings do. Secondly things like mermaids have existed in all cultures of the world especially where those cultures are surrounded by water, so Ariel as a mermaid can be any skin colour you want because it's all made up. You have white Tarzan in an African jungle, a white China queen of the jungle, a blonde blue eyed kid in the middle of east Africa. Did you hear Africans complain or quarell? No because Sheena, Tarzan are works of Fiction. They can be white, black Asian and anyone in between. What would be wrong is if you got Brad Pitt to play Nelson Mandela or got Denzel Washington to play Winston Churchill(which would be a massive upgrade for Churchill considering he was physically unattractive)"

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11. @SeanTheDon-r1u
"@pamelajudithrwanyarare8429  Right, so let's cast Timothee Chalamet as Black Panther and watch all hell break loose...😱"
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12. @WilliamGarrow
"@Xxd414 So like the fact that Andromedea is a Princess of Ethiopia.  But Hollywood made her and all her subjects in movies look like a place in Scandinavia?"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andromeda_(mythology)
"Andromédē) is the daughter of Cepheus, the king of Aethiopia, and his wife, Cassiopeia. When Cassiopeia boasts that she (or Andromeda) is more beautiful than the Nereids, Poseidon sends the sea monster Cetus to ravage the coast of Aethiopia as divine punishment. Queen Cassiopeia understands that chaining Andromeda to a rock as a human sacrifice is what will appease Poseidon. Perseus finds her as he is coming back from his quest to decapitate Medusa, and brings her back to Greece to marry her and let her reign as his queen. With the head of Medusa, Perseus petrifies Cetus to stop it from terrorizing the coast any longer.

 As a subject, Andromeda has been popular in art since classical antiquity; rescued by a Greek hero, Andromeda's narration is considered the forerunner to the "princess and dragon" motif."...
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Notice that in this story a Greek king has no problem about marrying an Aethiopian (Ethiopian, meaning Black) woman.  This suggests that there were other intermarriages between Greek and Ethiopian people during that time.

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@pamelajudithrwanyarare8429
"@SeanTheDon-r1u Go ahead who has stopped you?"

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@Catherine.Dorian
"@blackswanrevelations Here’s the thing, they could’ve gotten away with Vanessa because she’s just that beautiful, no one would question the entire thing because of how stunning she is.  Lupita is beautiful, yes, but not stunning enough to excuse the casting.  Also, if hers was the only inaccurate casting then people wouldn’t have been quite so upset but being given a trans man as an actual man and then the other random races as Greeks (like the Indian guy) it all became very clear it was just checking race boxes rather than hiring the best actors for the characters"

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15. @FranciscoAldereteE
" @Catherine.Dorian. is Matt Damon Greek?"

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16. @dutoitkotze4812
"@FranciscoAldereteE  he’s closer to Greek than Lupita is"

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17. @nodinitiative
"@blackswanrevelations  the real issue is that the Black woman potraying Helen was not as hot as many other Black actresses, although beauty is subjective, there are much more attractive Black actresses to play as Helen."

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18. @malafakka8530
"So, it isn't about race but beauty then. Not sure that's any better. Not that I would complain"

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19. @VictoriaThompson-h5u5f
"Lucky our beauty comes in different hues..and don't need your approval. White view does not define what beauty is..so who cares"

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20. @arabaotoo4080
"I agree. Her beauty merits that role n yes she is a black goddess"

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21. @thefranken-thing
"@arabaotoo4080  *Mixed goddess"

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22. @liltinyoutlaw1
"@thefranken-thing  no she is not. thx for playing"

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@Xxd414
"@VictoriaThompson-h5u5f  it's not the point. It's a European cultural part of our history. It should be respected. Why when it's white stories y'all think it can just be washed over? But your stories are respected? Huh. Greeks aren't black. Greek mythology is Greek. The end."

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24. @cassidyanne2
"@X @Xxd414  imagine thinking the odyssey is a “white” story. Begging ppl to read a book"

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25. @devalyngolliday4652
"@Xxd414 what color are the Cyclops or sirens or the Minotaur?  It's Mythology and Greek people tend to have darker features ( hair, eyes, olive skin) but no one would care about a blond haired, blue-eyed person in the role would they??  Stop the cap please!"
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In the context of this comment, the word "cap" is an African American Vernacular English word that means "lies"/"lying".

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26. @Suseau
"​​ @devalyngolliday4652  are you suggesting a Greek with brown hair and tan skin wasn't still ethnically white? Or that there were no blonde Greeks?

Americans are so obsessed with rewriting and organizing everything by skin colour, it's a joke!

You would look at someone like Mbappé and tell him what his identity was. You tell off Latinas, if they dare to be dark, but not consider themselves to be black. All this pretentious ethical correctness while feeling so damn entitled to other cultures and people's whole identities. Tyla - who is mixed, largely Indian, gets backlash if she doesn't bow down to your rules of colour. Stop the cap!"
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In the context of this comment, the word "cap" is an African American Vernacular English word that means "lies"/"lying".

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27. @Privatesectorzero292
"No, you would still be arguing with the colorist aka bigots and racist trying to tell you that there were no black people in Ancient Rome or Greece. But there were. The Mediterranean Sea borders the entire northern edge of North Africa, stretching about 2,500 miles (4,000 km) from the Strait of Gibraltar in the west to the coast of Egypt in the east. Five African nations touch this sea. In Homer, they didn’t have colorism or anything of the sort. A-poem re written over thousands of years and translations would. HOWEVER, in Greek mythology, there are Ethiopians. YES. The word comes from GREEK! It means burnt from the sun, cause black wasn’t a thing. it wasn’t called Africa YET. Ancient Rome had black soldiers etc., Ancient Greeks knew about them, and wrote extensively about the “Aithiopia” land of the sun burnt face. The ancient Greeks believed their gods frequently interacted with "Ethiopia." In Greek literature, it was considered a sacred, utopian land where the gods went to relax and receive sacrifices. In Iliad, Homer writes that Zeus and the 12 olympians, left Greece for twelve days to feast with the "blameless Ethiopians," delaying divine intervention in the Trojan War. Poseidon too! In the Odyssey, he  receives sacrifices there for mount Olympus. How do I know, I’m a classicist. 🤣. A classics major. LOOK IT UP. 😁"

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28. @Suseau
"​@Privatesectorzero292 every teenager at grammar school reads these things in Latin and Greek. Interaction with and presence of Africans is common knowledge and not questioned. Calm down - especially on those capitals."

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@ΝΑΤΑΜ
"Well, we all know why we are watching this... Thank you mr Nolan for reminding us of this epic mini series."

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@lindamartin-dm3nt
"Which mini series is that?"

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31. @SeanTheDon-r1u
"@lindamartin-dm3nt  The Odyssey TV miniseries (from 1997)"

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32. @clusterfoxtrot4462
"The only film version so far that matters to me."

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@anitaproq3528
"Today I learned that there are different versions of 'The Odissey' depending on the language it was translated to originally. They say, that version, which this mini series was based on, was translated from Homer with some depths that Nolan's version lacks, not because of his artistic way of seeing, but literally because it was quite another book. Nevertheless he might have wanted to make himself some homework, similar to what Mel Gibson did for 'The Passion of the Christ' or  'Apocalypto'"

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34. @rohinimoon16
"I haven’t seen this movie but this bit I’ve seen made me cringe hard lol. I love Nolan’s Odyssey."

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35. @andrearlieth2711
"Now that´s a face that could launch a thousand ships"

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36. @peter455sd
"The whole 6th fleet"

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37. @andrearlieth2711
"​@peter455sd 😅 Ohoy navy men"

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38. @Darkness-ie2yl
"This is Not Helen so why do you guys keep making this reference?"

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39. @00ghostcobra
"@Darkness-ie2yl  She definitely could have played Helen, with that face.."

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40. @a.h.2667
"@00ghostcobra Vanessa is black, I thought that was the whole debate of who should play Helen."

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41. @Darkness-ie2yl
"@00ghostcobra  So could Lupita. Shes beautiful enough."

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42. @longin-b6f
" @a.h.2667 IF Helena has to be black ( for the purpose of the DEI) THEN she must look like Vanessa Williams. 10/10. That's what the people mean."

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43. @Leolaglamour
"​@longin-b6f  He didn't pick Luputa for DEI. 🙄  He picked her for her talent. Its amazing how your "I'm colorblind" bullcrap goes away when it comes to movies. Per usual your lies are exposed."

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44. @voiceover2191
" @Darkness-ie2yl American education system that when you mention Homer, they hear the Simpsons' theme in their mind."

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45. @SynnJynn
"@voiceover2191  at least the Simpsons was more entertaining"

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46. @voiceover2191
" @SynnJynn Thank you for proving my point"

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47. @michaelbaker8633
"​ @Darkness-ie2yl  Probably for the same reason you keep missing the point entirely.

 If they had cast a black woman who looks like Vanessa Williams to play Helen instead of the troll they shoved in our faces, there would never have been so much backlash"

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@Darkness-ie2yl
"@michaelbaker8633  And you somehow think Christopher Nolan was unaware that the small minded would be whining and complaining? That some of you think everyone needs to look like Taylor Swift or Dua Lipa to be beautiful according to your standards? He wanted to hear your screams. We like it."

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49. @esthervieira6141
"That calypso makes sense that he stayed so long, not Charlize doing nothing at the beach"

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50. @christopherIronGreek7472
"That’s what they needed in the new Odyssey"

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51. @Shilohs_System
"Meh"

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52. @SeanTheDon-r1u
"@Shilohs_System  That was pretty much the reaction when viewers saw Helen's face in Nolan's version...."

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53. @Shilohs_System
"Getting mad about a fictional character being played by a real person is mental illness. Plus the "real" Helen would have been from Turkey, so no promise her skin would have been white ANYWAYS"

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54. @SeanTheDon-r1u
"@Shilohs_System  And getting mad over people's opinions/criticism about a fictional movie is a form of mental gymnastics worthy of a 1st place prize...🥇"

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55. @christopherIronGreek7472
"@Shilohs_System  😂 not mad about anything. Just voicing an opinion. Sounds like you’re the one getting mad. Last time I checked, people are allowed to have their own opinions. 😂"

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56. @francescapowell1538
"Why cos she’s light skinned and got recessive genes that have lightened her eyes, proving her family lineage was marred by the traces of slavery?"

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57. @eddisontollett8845
"I'll be blunt and honest: no, nobody would complain because Vanessa Williams is widely seen as beautiful and desirable, whereas Lupita Nyong'o was cast primarily for her acting talent. Christopher Nolan also likes working with actors who have won Oscars."

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58. @oksana818
" @eddisontollett8845 I’d be blunt and honest - the role of Nolan’s Helen didn’t require any extraordinary or unique acting talents. Plenty of actresses could’ve done part just as successfully"

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59. @eddisontollett8845
"​ @oksana818 Sydney Sweeney fits the traditional image of Helen of Troy far better than most actresses people have suggested.

In Greek mythology, Helen isn't just an attractive woman she is described as the most beautiful woman in the world. Her beauty is so extraordinary that kings, princes, and legendary heroes are willing to cross the sea, risk their lives, and fight a war that lasts ten years.

For that story to feel believable on screen, the actress needs to have a level of beauty and sex appeal that instantly makes the audience understand why so many men would lose their minds over her.

In my opinion, Sydney Sweeney would have been a much stronger choice. Her appearance aligns far more closely with the timeless image of a woman whose beauty is powerful enough to launch a thousand ships and become the catalyst for one of the greatest wars in mythology."

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60. @Fraughtech-7
"@eddisontollett8845  Thank god you are not the casting director then."

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61. @Alan-a-Dale484
"@eddisontollett8845  most of the people complaining would still complain. It's not about Lupita's beauty."

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62. @Fraughtech-7
"@e @eddisontollett8845  Lupita is beautiful aswell. People would definitely complain either way, because they don’t want a black actress in the role.

They would say it’s woke."

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63. @kbobdixie1829
"@Fraughtech-7 yes bc it is woke"

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64. @Fraughtech-7
"@kbobdixie1829  you don’t know what that word means."

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@kbobdixie1829
"@Fraughtech-7 😂 and you don't know how it's colloquially used..do u realize words are often used in a common everyday way that isn't a textbook definition? 😂"

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66. @Fraughtech-7
"Lupita was named people magazine most beautiful person so no beauty is not the issue."

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67. @tsopmocful1958
"​@Fraughtech-7 She's not even cute.

VW in this vid would have been a great choice and she is a better Calypso than Nolan's choice too.

 Much better."

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@rijusnar1994
"@Fraughtech-7 please dare to tell us Lupita is more beautiful than Vanessa .

We don't care about what magazines saif its bullcrap"

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69. @Fraughtech-7
"@rijusnar1994  Where did I say that. Do you not have reading comprehension. I’m saying both of them are beautiful."

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70. @Fraughtech-7
"@tsopmocful1958  Lupita is good looking and I don’t think you read my comment at all. People will still complain if either of them are casted, because they are BLACK. Have you not seen the discourse online, they are complaining about not just beauty, but RACE. There are no Greek people casted in the odyssey and people want accuracy not just eye candy. People would still be annoyed if  they casted Vanessa."

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Tuesday, July 28, 2026

Three Funny Television or Movie Scenes Of "Kumbaya" Being Sung (with comments), Part III


Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya (Alvin and the Chipmunks 3: Chipwrecked Scene)

me2God, Mar 21, 2012

Alvin, Simon, Theodore, Brittany, Jeanette and Eleanor are in the island singing Kumbaya my Lord... Don't own this scene...

Lyrics:

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya

Kumbaya my lord, Kumbaya

O Lord Kumbaya
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A few comments from this video's discussion thread are presented below.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series on the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya".

This post showcases three YouTube examples of the song "Kumbaya' being sung for non-religious reasons in American television shows or American movies.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/a-partial-timeline-for-religious-or-non.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post presents a partial timeline for the religious or non-religious uses of the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya" in the United States and-by extension- elsewhere in the world. 

That timeline is presented to help explain how and when the religious song "Kumbaya" became associated with children's campfire songs and how and when that song and the word "Kumbaya" became certain kinds of jokes and putdowns.  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/five-youtube-examples-of-spiritual.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post showcases some YouTube examples of the spiritual "Kumbaya'.
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The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, socio-cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown original composer/s of the song "Kumbaya" and thanks to Minnie Lee, Henry Wylie and others who were early singers of that song. Thanks to early collectors of the song "Kumbaya. Thanks also to all the producers and publishers of these showcased videos,, dose who are featured in the videos  and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR VIDEO #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn7eHkCRYg8

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@R_candy, 2016
"Randomly remembered this- oh god"

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2. @TheCornerianHaunter, 2016
"this song reminds me of south park"

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3. @_Blaize_, 2017
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How so?"

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4. @TheCornerianHaunter, 2016
"@_Blaize_  because it was on the walmart episode"

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5. @celimiller1888, 2017
"When your class gets in a circle during P.E. and start signing this"

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6. @arthrubenimaru9658, 2021
"LMAO same"

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7. @martinc3597, 2021
"Deffinetly... Only knew this version of the song. 😅😅😅"

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8. @rmj0711, 2021
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i hate this because it’s stuck in my head"

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ADDITIONAL YOUTUBE VIDEOS
These videos and the video that is embedded at the top of this post are presented in no particular order. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - south park cumbaja

anderjadom, Aug 3, 2010

wall mart epsiode
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Here are some comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6S8tc6y0uvQ


1.@erlindamariaonatejinete559, 2018
"kumbaya"

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2. @hanabihimawari2377, 2019
"What's the point of this song? Why everybody sings THAT song? Someone please help me to understand the meaning of this song"

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3. @Marylandbrony, 2025
"It's also a punchline about people cooperating/being at peace in an unrealistic matter."

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4. @luc9943, 2022
"my favorite part about randy moments like this is that he always thinks it his responsibility to react this way"

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5. @Maxoklean, 2023
"little things like this make south park the best"

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6. @sethnunyabizness5428, 2023
"Lmao funny how little scenes like this stick with you for years"

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7. @spektakl3301, 2024
"Yep I was just thinking about this scene out of no reason and had to search if it is on yt"

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@DudeWhat31, 2025
"Im burning forests in minecraft and was singing this the entire time because of this scene from when i was a kid. I had to come look it up lol."

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9. @austinl4915, 2025
"Lolll exactly. I randomly had a memory of seeing this as a kid so I just looked it up 😂"

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10. @Chann3lsurf3r825, 2025
"Me as I quit my job at Wallmart and never look back"

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 - Wednesday Escapes Summer Camp (Full Scene) | Addams Family Values | Paramount Movies


Paramount Movies, Nov 9, 2023 

Wednesday and Pugsley have no choice but to try and escape their overly peppy summer camp when they find out their Uncle Fester is getting married in this scene from Addams Family Values. When they get caught, though, the punishment is worse than Wednesday Addams could have ever predicted...
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for referencing purposes only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFmMlP1thXo&t=97s

1.@jasminnemcdonald94A, 2024
"This camp in my opinion is a depiction of Hell."

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2. @NeoPhoenixInfinity-99, 2026
"I Agree! This Summer Camp Is The Worst."

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3. @lisamcdonald1014, 2025
"Camp Chippewa was the most hellish summer camp in the history of the film"

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4. @timothylyons1529, 2025
"there something wrong with camp it has watch tower what summer camp has watch tower"

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5. @raymason9907, 2025
"It's called prison"

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6. @patrickheflin3479, 2025
"Now you tell us 🙄"

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7. @07.quanghuy49, 2025
"jokes aside, this place would be a nightmare for introverts"

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8. @afriendofbean, 2025
" @07.quanghuy49    That's true since the camp counselors Gary and Becky force everyone to have fun, Gary wasn't allowing Joel to read at 1:56 while he's in time out in the Harmony Hut making it a big deal if he wasn't interested in going horse back riding and making a birdhouse and then they prevented Wednesday, Pugsley, and Joel from escaping.

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9. @patrickheflin3479, 2025
"😒 I hate that song!!!"

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10. @shinigamikuroshitsuji336, 2026
"They cut the scene where the boy gets scared by a Michael Jackson poster in the cabin. They're so sensitive these days that they delete the good stuff for being "offensive" 😒😒😒

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Monday, July 27, 2026

Five YouTube Examples Of The Spiritual "Kumbaya" ("Come By Here"), Part II


Kumbaya My Lord ]Ghana, West Africa]

George Osei-Bonsu Tiboah (GOseiBonsu), Sep 27, 2018

Kumbaya My Lord...

The song is a simple appeal to God to come and help those in need, At Prayer & Faith Conference this spiritual song is slowly becoming our anthem whenever we gather together to worship. Even though only a few minutes, this song has so much meaning to all singing.

Enjoy Kumbaya wonderfully conducted by Nana Bonnie from Prayer Faith Conference, ThamesValley YouthFederation & CCC Youth Retreat 2016

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of a three part pancocojams series on the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya".

This post showcases five YouTube examples of the African American Spiritual "Kumbaya'.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/a-partial-timeline-for-religious-or-non.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post presents a partial timeline for the religious or non-religious uses of the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya" in the United States and-by extension- elsewhere in the world. 

This timeline is presented to help explain how and when the religious song "Kumbaya" became associated with children's campfire songs and how and when that song and the word "Kumbaya" became certain kinds of jokes and putdowns.  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/three-funny-television-or-movie-scenes.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post showcases three funny YouTube examples of the song "Kumbaya' being sung in American television shows, and American movies. That post also includes some comments from those videos' discussion threads.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, socio-cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown original composer/s of the song "Kumbaya" and thanks to Minnie Lee, Henry Wylie and others who were early singers of that song. Thanks to early collectors of the song "Kumbaya, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/01/the-kumbaya-song-around-world.html for the January 2012 pancocojams post entitled "
The Kumbaya Song Around The World".

That post showcases six additional YouTube videos of people singing "Kumbaya" other than the videos  that are showcases in this 2026 pancocojams post.

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ADDITIONAL YOUTUBE VIDEOS
These videos and the video that is embedded at the top of this post are presented in no particular order. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 -  Kumbaya Pete Seeger 10 24 1963



Kálmán Tóth, May 18, 2014

Pete Seeger live Australia

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 - Bethany Family sing 'Kum Bay Yah' (Tanzania)


 

unapendo, Aug 1, 2008

Bethany children's home choir practice another popular song ready for their trip to England

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #4 - Khumbaya | Tribute | Gospel Touch Choir ft. Soweto - Gospel Choir Hire

Gospel Touch, April 13, 2020

KHUMBAYA - Victim | Appeal Song| Coronavirus | COVID-19

This track from Gospel Touch is tied in with spreading the message of hope during the Covid-19 pandemic.

The Coronavirus Pandemic has constrained governments and organizations worldwide to take intense measures to stop its spread – from putting 33% of the total populace under lockdown, numerous have lost jobs, businesses, and many have lost love ones.

The UK/USA based gospel choir have collaborated to record a song Khumbaya, also sang by the Soweto Gospel Choir, to pay tribute and request for prayers for the victims, bring hope and solace by touching the soul and heart of everybody that is affected and to the NHS endeavoring to give treatment and save lives during the coronavirus pandemic.

Gospel Touch is directed by the CEO Sam Adebanjo, who trusts and hopes for some harmony, recuperation, and solace for the nations."Gospel Touch" performs in the UK and abroad at private and corporate events. They have been included and featured in most of the UK and USA national Television channels: BBC, ITV and Chanel 4, BET, TBS and have been nominated for the MOBO Awards. They have also worked alongside projects with Micheal Jordan, President Barack Obama, Trevor McDonald, Sports Relief, Master Card, Jamie Oliver, Gordon Ramsay. 

'Gospel Touch Gospel Singers are – Touching Lives, One Song At A Time'.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #5 - Kumbaya : The New London Chorale



Luite Lubberts, November 14, 2014

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A Partial Timeline For The Religious Or Non-Religious Uses Of The Song "Kumbaya" Or The Word "Kumbaya" (1926-2015)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series on the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya".

This post presents a partial timeline for the religious or non-religious uses of the song "Kumbaya" or the word "Kumbaya" in the United States and-by extension- elsewhere in the world. 

This timeline is presented to help explain how and when the religious song "Kumbaya" became associated with children's campfire songs and how and when that song and the word "Kumbaya" became certain kinds of jokes and putdowns.  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/five-youtube-examples-of-spiritual.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post showcases some YouTube examples of the spiritual "Kumbaya'.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/07/three-funny-television-or-movie-scenes.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post showcases three funny YouTube examples of the song "Kumbaya' being sung in American television shows, and American movies. That post also includes some comments from those videos' discussion threads.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, socio-cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown original composer/s of the song "Kumbaya" and thanks to Minnie Lee, Henry Wylie and others who were early singers of that song. Thanks to early collectors of the song "Kumbaya, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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ONLINE SOURCES FOR THIS TIMELINE
Here are links to the three main online sources that I used for this timeline:

 https://blogs.loc.gov/folklife/2018/02/kumbaya-history-of-an-old-song/ Library of Congress: Folklife Today: "Kumbaya: History of an Old Song" by Stephen Winick, February 6, 2018 [referred to in the timeline as Source #1]

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https://www.npr.org/2012/01/13/145059502/when-did-kumbaya-become-such-a-bad-thing "When Did 'Kumbaya' Become Such A Bad Thing?" by Linton Weeks, January 13, 2012 [referred to in the timeline as Source #2]

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumbaya [referred to in the timeline as Source #3]

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A PARTIAL TIMELINE FOR THE RELIGIOUS OR NON-RELIGIOUS USES OF THE SONG "KUMBAYA" OR THE WORD "KUMBAYA"

1926/1927-  Minnie Lee, a Gullah Geechie (African American) student from North Carolina is documented singing the  song “Oh, Lord, Won’t You Come By Here". The  lyrics of that song were written down by  (White American) Julian Parks Boyd who was her teacher at that time. In 1927 Boyd sent this manuscript to Robert Winslow Gordon, the founder of the Archive of American Folk-Song—which is now the American Folklife Center archive.  "Folkways" was the title for The American Folklife Center's recording label.

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1926
- Henry Wylie , a Gullah Geechie (African American) man from Georgia was recorded singing "Kumbaya" by Julian Parks Boyd. Boyd sent that wax cylinder recording to Robert Winslow Gordon, the founder of the Archive of American Folk-Song—which is now the American Folklife Center archive. This was one of four wax cylinders of this song that Boyd sent to Gordon. Two of those cylinders are now unplayable.

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1931- "In 1931, the Society for the Preservation of Spirituals published a song that they called “Come by Yuh,” in a book entitled The Carolina Low Country. The exact date of the song’s collection is not mentioned in the book, but all of the book’s songs were collected between 1922 and 1931. (As a consequence, it is impossible to know whether this version predates any or all of Gordon’s materials, and it therefore may be impossible to identify with certainty the first verifiable reference to the song.) This song has the refrain “Come By Yuh, Lord, come by yuh,” and a repeated verse “somebody need you lord, come by yuh.” Gordon called one of his now-unplayable cylinders “Come by here, Lord, come by here,” and the other “Somebody need you Lord, come by here,” suggesting that these were all the same song. It is also very similar to the song we know as “Kumbaya.” By 1931, then, the song had likely been recorded or transcribed from at least five singers, and other songs bearing the stamp of its influence had been recorded and published as well." [quote from Source #1]

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late 1930s - "By the late 1930s, [Samuel G.] Freedman, [from Columbia University] discovered, folklorists had made recordings of "Kumbaya" as far afield as Lubbock, Texas, and the Florida women's penitentiary". [quote from Source #2]

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1939- Martin Frey, a White American evangelist and composer, published and copyrighted sheet music for one version of "Kumbaya" which he called “Come by Here.” Once the song “Kumbaya” became popular during the 1950s/1960s folk revival, Frey claimed that he had written it. 

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January 1956 -"Lynn Rohrbough, co-proprietor with his wife Katherine of the camp songbook and hymnal publisher Cooperative Recreation Service, predecessor to World Around Songs first published "Kumbaya" in its January 1956 pamphlet Song Sampler as well as the 1956 edition of Hymns of Universal Praise (for the North East Ohio Conference of the Methodist Church)[11] and then in many others of its collections. [quote from Source #3]

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1957- (White American) "folk singer Tony Saletan learned the song ["Kumbaya"] from the Rohrboughs. Saletan performed the song on April 14, 1957, at the Swarthmore Folk Festival,[13] but never recorded it." [quote from Source #3]

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1957- Tony Saletan
 taught the song "Kumbaya" to The Folksmiths, a (White American) folk singing group from Oberlin College, Ohio. [Source #1, Source #3]

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summer of 1957- The Folksmiths toured summer camps in the summer of 1957, and they taught “Kumbaya” (or, as they called it, “Kum Ba Yah”) to thousands of American campers, helping to cement the song’s association with both children and campfires". (quote from Source #1)

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1958- the first published recording of this song was by The Folksmiths,  The song "Kum Ba Yah" was part of an album called We’ve Got Some Singing to Do, which was released on the Folkways label in early 1958.

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1958 - (White American) folk singer Pete Seeger released a version of the song with the title “Kum Ba Ya” on the Folkways label.

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1959 - Pete Seeger’s group The Weavers recorded the song known as “Kumbaya” on the Folkways label

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1963 -"
In 1963 about two dozen employees of the Young Men's and Young Women's Hebrew Associations in Manhattan held a sit-in — complete with choruses of "Kumbaya" — to protest the closing of 18 Jewish community centers." [quote from Source #2]

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1966- "In 1966, student protesters in Gary, Ind., reacting to the city's corruption and crime, altered the usual lyrics to fit their concerns: Gary's troubled, my Lord, Kumbaya" ".[quote from Source #2]

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1977- "In 1977, Gov. Edmund Brown of California sang the song with California Conservation Corps trainees at a camp 75 miles north of Los Angeles".[quote from Source #2]

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1980- "In 1980, protesters crooned it at a candelight vigil in Middletown, Pa., marking one year since the nuclear disaster at nearby Three Mile Island." 
[quote from Source #2]

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1989- "
In 1989 humorist Joe Queenan, in a mean-spirited essay titled "If I Had a Hammer...I'd Smash Their Guitars," said that hearing "Kumbaya" sent shivers down his spine." [quote from Source #2]

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the mid 1990s- "In the mid-1990s, the Capitol Steps, a satirical singing group from Washington, mocked the song ["Kumbaya"] [quote from Source #2]

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1993- Adams Family Values- movie released in 1993 includes a brief scene where the Addams children attend an overly peppy summer camp in which a camp counselors and campers seated around a camp fire sing "Kumbaya".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhV_3kx9knA

1994- "Speaking out against a program that would pay students for national service, [Republican Congressman Rick] Santorum said, "Someone's going to pick up trash in a park and sing 'Kumbaya' around a campfire, and you're going to give them 90 percent of the benefits of the GI Bill! That's a slap in the face to every person who put their butts on the line in a foreign country. ... That's not what America is all about."[quote from Source #2]

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August 20, 1997- South Park [animated television series] "Volcano" (Season 1, Episode 3): Ned Gerblansky sings a raspy rendition of the song using a voice-box/kazoo setup around a campfire on a hunting trip with Jimbo and the boys

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July 28, 1999- South Park [animated television series] (Season 3, Episode 9): The Jew Scouts sing the song briefly around a campfire in front of Moses.

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November 3, 2004- "Something Wall-Mart This Way Comes" (Season 8, Episode 9): The local townsfolk gather to sing it after the massive superstore is finally destroyed. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q55kazVdH58

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February 2007- definition submitted to urbandictionary.com by Timla, February 20, 2007 
"kumbaya

blandly pious and naively optimistic

At the risk of sounding too kumbaya, I felt as if I had finally come home."
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This is ranked as the top definition for the word "kumbaya" on  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kumbaya  (July 26, 2026).

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May 2010- definition submitted to urbandictionary.com by winkles76 

"Kumbaya moment 

when management tries to create camaraderie amongst employees through a group activity, usually involving food and or drink.

I would really like to skip out on that lunch meeting, but I know the boss is looking forward to that kumbaya moment. I really hope we don't have to sing."
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This is the first definition of that phrase on  https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=kumbaya  

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April 2011-" Singing "Kumbaya," former presidential candidate Herman Cain told a Chicago Tea Party rally in April of 2011, to much laughter, "is not a foreign policy strategy." [quote from Source #2]

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October 2011- [Republican Presidential] "
Candidate Rick Perry told The New York Times in October: "If you're looking for somebody that's going to say, 'Hey listen we're not going to make it hard on you, it's all going to work it out, and it's just, you know, "Kumbaya," ' I'm not your guy." [quote from Source #2]

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December 2011- The animated movie Alvin & The Chipmunks: Chipwreaked includes a scene of the chipmunks standing by a campfire singing "Kumbaya".https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hn7eHkCRYg8

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January 2012- "
Mike Huckabee, former Arkansas governor and [Republican Presidential candidate]  himself, told ABC News this week that "There's not going to be some magic moment at which three or four of these people sit around a campfire toasting marshmallows, singing 'Kumbaya' and giving the nod to one of their competitors." [quote from Source #2]

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January 2012
-"In a news briefing a few days ago, White House press secretary Jay Carney also alluded to the song. "I don't think that anybody expected or expects Washington to be a campfire where everybody holds hands together and sings 'Kumbaya,' " Carney said. "That's not what the nation's business is about." " [quote from Source #2]

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July 2015- scene from Minions animated movie.  "While trapped in the Australian outback during their global search for a new supervillain, Kevin, Stuart, and Bob hilariously sing the classic campfire song "Kumbaya" to hitch a ride" [quoting an AI Overview summary]

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