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Monday, July 20, 2026

"Walk Together Children" Spiritual Sung By Choir Wearing Kente Cloth Stoles (video, lyrics, information) 2026 reprint

Walk Together Children

MetroSingers, Uploaded on Jun 15, 2009

MetroSingers, Hyattsville, MD
http://www.metrosingers.com

Song recorded and produced by Hope Channel
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Here's a comment exchange from this video's discussion thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv5NaxKOVlI

"Awsome performance. Who's arrangement is this."
-jimmyj09, 2010

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Reply
"Dr. Raymond Wise - an AMAZING gospel performer/arranger/composer. i had the blessing of singing in his gospel choir at Ohio State University while he was there. so great!"
-allisonpepple, 2010

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams  post showcases a performance of the African American Spiritual "Walk Together Children" (also known as "There's A Great Camp Meeting In The Promised Land"). Information about an early arranger of that Spiritual and the lyrics to a contemporary arrangement of that song are also included in this post.

This post also includes information about the custom of African American choirs & other African American people wearing Ghanaian kente cloth stoles, as shown in the featured video.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, religious, historical, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown composer/s of "Walk Together Children". Thanks also to the arrangers of that song, particularly to Moses John Rosamond Johnson. Thanks to the choir that is featured in this video & to the arranger of that rendition of that Spiritual. Thanks also to those who are quoted in this post & to the publisher of that featured video.
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This is a reprint of a 2013 pancocojams post with the same title. That post has four comments and is still available on this blog. https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/10/walk-together-children-lyrics-examples.html

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ARRANGEMENTS OF AFRICAN AMERICAN SPIRITUALS (FORMERLY KNOWN AS "NEGRO SPIRITUALS"
From http://www.negrospirituals.com/composers.htm
"Composers:

The authors of the first Negro spirituals are not known: these were spontaneous, unwritten songs.

After the Civil War, African American musicians arranged Negro spirituals, then composed the first Gospel songs. Here are short biographies of some composers...

John Rosamond JOHNSON (1873-1954)

His father was born free in Virginia. His mother taught school and had knowledge on the European tradition in music.

He obtained his musical education in the New England Conservatory, then in London, England. With his brother James Weldon Johnson (1871-1938), a poet writer, he collected and arranged old Negro spirituals.

Together with his brother and Bob Cole, he sang secular songs.

His best known choral work is "Walk Together, Children" (1915) but he also composed the anthem « Lift Every Voice and Sing ».
He served as the director of the Music School Settlement for Colored, New York."

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Click http://www.negrospirituals.com/news-song/there_s_a_great_camp_meeting.htm for an arrangement of "There's A Great Camp Meeting In The Promised Land" that was included in the 1940 book American Negro Songs edited by John W. Work

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A commonly found arrangement of "Walk Together Children", particularly for children & youth, is to substitute the verb in each verse of that song. In so doing, "Walk Together Children" serves as a great example of a "zipper song":

Walk together children.
Don't you get weary.
Walk together children.
Don't you get weary.

Walk together children.
Don't you get weary.
Walk together children.
Don't you get weary.
There's a great camp meeting in the Promised Land.

Talk together children etc.

Sing together children etc.

Shout together children etc.

Pray together children etc.

Work together children etc.

[Add other action words & end with "Walk together" verse.]

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LYRICS WALK TOGETHER CHILDREN
(as arranged by Dr. Raymond Wise)

Chorus:
O, Walk together children
Don’t you get weary
Walk together children
Don’t you get weary
Walk together children
Don’t you get weary
There’s a great camp meeting in the Promised Land

Talk together children
Don’t you get weary
Talk together children
Don’t you get weary
Talk together children
Don’t you get weary
There’s a great camp meeting in the Promised Land

Soloist: One of these days and it won’t be long
Group: Walk together children don’t you get weary
Soloist: You gonna look for me and I’ll be gone
Group: There’s a great camp meeting in the Promised Land
Soloist: When I get to heav’n gonna sing and shout
Group: Walk together children don’t you get weary
Soloist: There’ll be nobody there to put me out
Group: There’s a great camp meeting in the Promised Land

Chorus
[So] Walk together children etc.

Part of Group: We gonna walk
Remainder of Group: Yes we gonna walk
We gonna talk
Yes we gonna talk
We gonna shout
Yes we gonna talk
We gonna sing
Yes we gonna sing

We gonna walk
We gonna walk
We gonna talk
We gonna talk
We gonna shout
We gonna shout
We gonna sing
We gonna sing
We gonna walk
Walk
We gonna talk
Talk
We gonna shout
Shout
Sing
Sing all the glory to Jesus
We gonna walk
Yes we gonna walk
We gonna talk
Yes we gonna talk
We gonna shout
Yes we gonna talk
We gonna sing
Yes we gonna sing
We gonna walk
We gonna walk
We gonna talk
We gonna talk
We gonna shout
We gonna shout
We gonna sing
We gonna sing
We gonna walk
walk
Talk
talk
Shout
Shout
Sing
Sing
Sing hallelujah to Jesus
Because there’s a great camp meeting
A great camp meeting
A great camp meeting
In the Promised Land.
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Transcription by Azizi Powell from the video. Additions & corrections are welcome.

Term Explanations:
Camp meeting - an outdoor worship gathering of Christians

Promised Land - Heaven

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ADDENDUM - AFRICAN AMERICANS WEARING KENTE CLOTH STOLES
Beginning around 1960s and increasingly since the 1980s, African Americans ministers and choirs have worn kente cloth stoles as a fashion accessory to their church robes. Kente cloth stoles symbolize these ministers' & choir members' identification with their African heritage.

By far the most commonly found example of kente cloth that is worn in the USA is the red & orange colored kente cloth stole with the pattern shown in the "Walk Together Children" video that is featured in this post. This color combination & pattern of kente cloth is so widespread among African Americans who wear kente cloth that many African Americans think that this is the only traditional color combinations and patterns of that cloth. However, one popular custom among African Americans who are members of a historically Black fraternity or sorority is to wear a kente cloth stole over their robes during their graduation ceremony commencement. Those Greek letter stoles are made in the two colors that are association with those fraternities or sororities and include the initials of the graduates' fraternity’s or sorority’s Greek letter name.

This custom of Black graduates accessorizing their graduation robes with a kente cloth stole expresses those graduates' identification with and pride in their African heritage and their Black Greek lettered organization, as well as their pride in their accomplishment of graduating from that university or college.

Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kente_cloth and http://www.nmafa.si.edu/exhibits/kente/top.htm for information about kente cloth.

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/02/wearing-kente-cloth-stoles-during.html for the 2014 pancocojams post entitled "Wearing Kente Cloth Stoles During American Graduation Ceremonies".

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The Meanings Of The Names "Lamine" & "Yamal" (with two YouTube videos & information about Spanish Footballer Lamine Yamal)



Lamine Yamal: The 60 Minutes Interview

60 Minutes, Nov 30, 2025  #barcelona #sports #soccer

At age 18, Barcelona sensation Lamine Yamal is regarded as one of the world’s best soccer players, just a few years after bursting onto the pro scene. He reflects on his roots and his rise to the top

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of Lamine Yamal and presents information about that Spanish football player with particular focus on the meanings of the names "Lamine" and "Yamal".

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and onomastics* purposes.

*from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Onomastics
"Onomastics the study of proper names, including their etymology, history, and use.

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THE MEANINGS OF THE NAME "LAMINE" ("LAMIN")
From https://www.wisdomlib.org/names/lamin 
"Meaning of the name Lamin

Background, origin and meaning of Lamin:

The name Lamin is a prominent masculine given name of Mandinka and West African origin, frequently used among Muslim populations in countries such as The Gambia, Senegal, Guinea, and Mali. It serves as a regional variation of the Arabic name Al-Amin, which translates literally to "the trustworthy," "the faithful," or "the honest," derived from the Arabic root a-m-n, signifying safety, reliability, and security. Historically, this name is deeply revered in Islamic tradition as it was one of the primary epithets (al-Amīn) bestowed upon the Prophet Muhammad, reflecting his reputation for integrity and moral uprightness before he began his prophetic mission. Due to its cultural significance and phonetic adaptation into local West African languages, it has become a staple name signifying virtue and dependability, often given to boys with the expectation that they will embody these honorable traits throughout their lives. Derivable or associated names include Amin, Al-Amin, Amadou, and Lamine.

[...]

Lamin is most popular in the following countries: Algeria, Morocco, Italy, Tunisia, Libya"

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THE MEANINGS OF THE NAME "YAMAL"
From https://www.ancestry.com/first-name-meaning/yamal
"The name "Yamal" has its origins in various cultural contexts, primarily associated with Middle Eastern and South Asian traditions. In Arabic, the name is derived from the root "y-m-l," which conveys meanings related to beauty and excellence. It is often interpreted as "beautiful" or "handsome," reflecting positive attributes. In some interpretations, particularly within Islamic culture, names that denote beauty or virtue are considered auspicious and desirable."...

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EXCERPT OF JULY 14, 2026 NEW YORK TIMES ARTICLE ABOUT LAMINE YAMAL
From https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/7442585/2026/07/14/lamine-yamal-spain-world-cup-name-france/ "The story behind Lamine Yamal’s full name – and who he is named after"
By Dermot Corrigan, July 14, 2026
"Millions around the globe will watch Lamine Yamal and Spain play France in the World Cup semi-finals on Tuesday.

Among that number might be two figures who played an important part in the Barcelona superstar’s story — even if their exact role remains something of a mystery to the public.

Like most Spanish people, Yamal, who turned 19 on Monday, has two surnames — one inherited from his father, another from his mother. These are Nasraoui and Ebana.

However, like many Spanish footballers — including his former Barca coach Xavi and Barca team-mate Pedri — Spain’s No 19 goes by his first name professionally.

In this case, that first name has two parts, similar to Paris Saint-Germain coach Luis Enrique, another ex-Barca figure.

For both Spain and Barcelona, the name on the back of Yamal’s shirt reads: Lamine Yamal. On his passport and national ID card, his full name reads: Lamine Yamal Nasraoui Ebana.

Lamine is a popular name in Arabic, which can be translated as honest or trustworthy — it derives from Al Amin, which is also an honorary title once given to the prophet Muhammad.

Yamal is a variant of the widely used Arabic name Jamal — which can be translated as beauty, grace or charm. Most who have seen him play football would likely agree that they are fitting names.

Both names would also not be uncommon for children born in July 2007 to immigrants to Catalonia. Yamal’s father Mounir Nasraoui was born in Morocco, while his mother Sheila Ebana was born in Equatorial Guinea.

However, the twist in this story, widely reported in Spanish media, is that both names were chosen by this particular baby’s parents out of gratitude to two friends.

Ebana was 16 when their child was born, and she and Nasraoui would not have been the first (or the last) new parents to need financial assistance from those around them to deal with changed circumstances and extra responsibilities.

In this story, among those to really step up when they were required were two male family friends. One called Lamine, the other Yamal.

Out of appreciation for such support, the new parents decided to name their baby Lamine Yamal Nasraoui Ebana.

A lot has happened to that little boy since, and it wasn’t just being photographed with Lionel Messi at five months old.

Aged 12, he left his home farther up the Catalan coast to join Barcelona’s La Masia academy. He has won La Liga titles with Barca and the 2024 European Championship with Spain. His Barca contract, agreed in 2025, is worth up to €40million (£33.5m; $45.3m) a year before tax, while he also has endorsement deals with global brands such as Adidas, American Eagle, Visa, Coca-Cola and Beats by Dre.

Along the way, Yamal has often spoken about how difficult his early years were, especially for his parents, and other family and friends in the majority-immigrant Rocafonda neighbourhood of Catalan city Mataro, which has one of the highest poverty rates in Spain.

“Look, my mum had me when she was 16,” Yamal said in an interview with Spanish radio station Cadena SER earlier in July. “My dad also had to go out and look for a life, sometimes picking up stuff in the streets to try to come back home with food for us. To me, this is real pressure, not what I have.”

His trademark ‘304’ goal celebration proudly recalls the final three digits of Rocafonda’s postcode, while in many media interviews he has recalled the sacrifices made by his parents to help him pursue his football.”…

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BONUS VIDEO-
The Viral Messi & Baby Lamine Yamal Photo Explained A Football Story Like No Other

The Financial Express, Jul 16, 2026  #messi #lamineyamal #worldcup2026

Before Lionel Messi and Lamine Yamal met on football's biggest stage, they had already crossed paths nearly two decades earlier. In 2007, a UNICEF charity raffle paired a young Messi with six-month-old Lamine Yamal for a photoshoot at Camp Nou.

Nobody could have imagined that the baby in Messi's arms would one day become Spain's brightest football star and face the Argentine legend in a FIFA World Cup Final.

 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tpItqCFfHo

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Sunday, July 19, 2026

Is The Children's Game Song "Brown Girl In The Ring" Racist? (Pancocojams Reprint Of A 2017 Post)

 

JAFS Project, 
Dec 15, 2018

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post explores the question "Is the Jamaican originated children's recreational game  'Brown Girl In The Ring' racist?"

This post also includes an example of a 1904 version of this song and includes my editorial comments about whether "Brown Girl In The Ring" is racist.

This post also showcases several YouTube videos of the Jamaica originated children's game "Brown Girl In The Ring" with selected comments from some of these videos' discussion threads.

Most of this post is a reprint of a 2017 pancocojams post with this title and includes all of the comments that haver been published for that pot as of July 19, 2026 (the publication date of this 2026s post.). That post is still available on this blog.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the unknown composer/s of "Brown Girl In The Ring". Thanks to all those who are featured in these showcase videos and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to he publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/01/theres-brown-girl-in-ring-youtube.html."There's A Brown Girl In The Ring"  Most of the YouTube examples, lyrics, and comments in that post were included in the original 2017 post.

This post has been extensively revised since its initial publication on pancocojams in 2017.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/11/boney-m-brown-girl-in-ring-video-lyrics.html Boney M - Brown Girl In The Ring (Video, Lyrics, & Comments) for another pancocojams post about the song "Brown Girl In The Ring". That post showcases a different Boney M clip of this song than the clip that is shown in this post.

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/04/play-party-songs-general-information.html for the closely related April 2026 post "White Default, Color Blindness, & African American Influences On Play Party Songs".

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IS THE CARIBBEAN GAME SONG "BROWN GIRL IN THE RING" RACIST?

My answer- No. maybe, and yes.

A number of people have asked online about whether the Jamaican children's song is racist, including a concerned White parent who wrote on July  7, 2008 on the now deleted blog [blog no longer available] asking whether the game song "Brown Girl In The Ring" is racist. Tami Winfrey Harris, the Black blogger who is/was the editor of that site, concluded that this song isn't racist.

I agree with Tami Winfrey Harris that "Brown Girl In The Ring" isn't intrinsically racist. However, "Brown Girl In The Ring is racial as it refers to the race (skin color) of children who are playing a game. And being racial isn't intrinsically bad or good. it depends on intent.

The earliest example of "Brown Girl In The Ring" game song that I've come across was a 1904 song entitled "There's A Black Boy In The Ring". My guess is that that game song was composed for a monoracial (one racial) population of Black children in Jamaica as a way of helping them boost and reinforce their self-esteem and group esteem in a world that constantly put them down.

Ironically, one of the problems (or potential problems) with "Brown Girl In The Ring" is that lots of people now live in multicultural societies where colorblindness is considered to be the ideal. In the United States and in many other Western nations nowadays it is considered to be ideal to pretend that racial differences such as skin color don't exist. 

However, at the same time, those societies have policies and practices that promote institutional (systemic) racism and societal practices in which "White" (i.e. the White race) is the default that is automatically considered now to be (and is inaccurately taught that in the past has always been) the most valued race. 

Based on this default belief, for example, when no race is mentioned for some historically or present day accomplishment or invention, most people in these nations automatically think the person who accomplished it or invented it was or is White. Also, the educational systems and the mass media of the United States and other Western nations continue to either ignore, mislabel, downgrade the accomplishments of People of Color (i.e. non-White people) while they actively vilify People of Color.

At the same time, populations in these multicultural societies also struggle with "colorism" (favoring one skin color in a racial population over other skin colors in that same population).
The skin color (and other characteristics such as nose shape and other facial features and hair texture) that are favored are those that are closer to the skin color and features of White people.

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WHY DO SOME PEOPLE HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT WHETHER THE"BROWN GIRL IN THE RING" SONG AND GAME IS RACIST?
I believe that the concerns about whether the "Brown Girl In The Ring" song and game are racist reflect the heightened awareness in some people (particularly White people) that favoring one race over another is wrong. The people who are questioning the racist or non-racist nature of this song and game are trying to eradicate elements of racism from the pay activities of their children and the children they teach or otherwise interact.

Since at least the end of the 20th century and the beginning of the 21st century, "colorblindness" is largely considered the ideal value to have in the United States and in most other nations throughout the world, 
My guess is the reason why people have concerns about the "Brown Girl In The Ring" game song is that the lyrics of that song can be seen as promoting one race or one skin color over others. A very successfulr example of society cleansing a children's recreational rhyme of racist content is removing the "N word" from the "Eenie Meenie Miney Mo" rhyme and substituting another word. That change has worked so well that most people don't know that the N word was ever a part of that rhyme." 

The concern that "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" is racist could be true in the 2020s if the people playing that game chose to have racist viewpoints-meaning if they  sing that song  or play that game to call negative attention to players with that skin color. However, h
istorically, "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" ( or it's earlier version "There's A Black Boy In The Ring" ) was sung to help Black children develop and reinforce positive self-esteem and group esteem.

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THE COLOR REFERENT "BROWN" IN THIS GAME SONG REPLACED THE EARLIER REFERENT "BLACK
"There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" is a later version of the song that used the word "black" instead of "brown". 

The earliest example of "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" that I've come across was published in a 1904 collection Jamaican Song and Story: Annancy stories, digging sings, ring tunes, and dancing tunes by Walter Jekyll. The title of that game song was "There's A Black Boy In The Ring".

A digital version of this book can be found at https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35410/35410-h/35410-h.htm#Page_207. [This singing game is actually on page 208] .

Here are the lyrics to that song along with the collector's notes.

There's a black boy in a ring, tra la la la la,
There's a black boy in a ring, tra la la la la,
There's a black boy in a ring, tra la la la la,
He like sugar an' I like plum.
Wheel an' take you pardner, jump shamador!
Wheel an' take you pardner, jump shamador!
Wheel an' take you pardner, jump shamador!
For he like sugar an' I like plum.

The boy inside the ring chooses his partner, whom he leaves there after the dance. She obtains release by choosing another partner, whom she leaves behind. So there is alternately a boy and a girl in the ring.

"Shamador" is possibly a corruption of "camerado."
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"Camerado" is probably a variant spelling of "comrade" (friend).

Presumably, as is the case for contemporary versions of this song, while playing this game, the gender referent "boy" was changed to "girl" when it was (is) a boy's turn to be in the middle of the circle. The use of "boy"  instead of "girl" in that 1904 example could reflect the early 20th century's preference for boys over girls. And, the use of "girl" instead of "boy" in later versions of that game song could reflect the fact that circle singing games came to be considered as recreational activities mostly for girls rather than as co-ed activities. (The recent de-emphasizing gender because of the LTBGQ movement didn't affect the historical use of gender terms in this song, but certainly could be a reason why some people nowadays frown upon this song.)

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I don't know when or why the color referent in this game song changed from "Black" to "Brown"

Did people change the color referent in this song from "Black" to "Brown" because "black" was considered a pejorative racial and/or skin color referent that no one playing that game wanted to be associated with? Said differently, did a growing number of Jamaicans where this song was composed favor being brown skinned (lighter) than being darker skinned?

And/or was a version of this song that used the "brown girl" rather than the "black boy" words so popular that people sang those words and by force of repetition, that wording became the standard?
 

By 1946/1947 the eminent Trinidadian Calypsonian Lord Invader wrote his version of this game song with the and title "Brown Girl In A Ring". 

Here's Lord Invader's Calypso version of that game song:

"Yes sir

Very often i am left amazed

when i remember my childhood days

when me and my girlfriend used to play about together

and sing the song of hug and kiss your partner

There's a brown girl in the ring

Traala lala la

There's a brown girl in the ring

Trala lala lala

Brown girl in the ring

Trala lala la

And She looks like a sugar on a plum (plum, plum)

You'll show me your motion

Trala lala la

You'll show me your motion

Trala lala lala

Show me your motion

Traala lala la

And She looks like a sugar on a plum (plum, plum)

You'll hug and kiss your partner

Traala lala la

You'll hug and kiss your partner

Traala lala lala

hug and kiss your partner

Traala lala la

And She looks like a sugar on a plum (plum, plum)

But now that i reached to maturity

I know how happy my childhood days used to be

But now the kids haven't got no responsibility

They are taken care of by their families

Anything they need, they just have to say

And after school at home all day will go and play

There's a brown girl in the ring...

Now if i happen to be reincarnated

I like to do the same things i did as a kid

when I'm permitted to have my fun at times

With my playmates i'll sing some nursery rhymes

Whether in my backyard, or in the playground

We will join together and sing this song

There's a brown girl in the ring...

And Miss Lilly White looks so fresh and gay

With a bunch of roses by her side

Give her the kisses, one, two  three,

Wonder who shall be her bride.

Show me your motion ..."

- posted on https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g0lp40UnuBM Lord Invader - "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" by [commenter] SenhorBovinoGadoso, 2015

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Notice the "brown" and "White" color references in Lord Invader's version of "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring". Lord Invader's song could have helped standardize the "brown girl" rather than "black boy" words in that game song. However, it appears the "brown girl" words were used during Lord Invader's childhood.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
The next two sections of this pancocojams post provide some historical and current usages of the word "brown" in Jamaica when it is used to refer to certain populations.

19th CENTURY MEANINGS OF THE WORD "BROWN" IN JAMAICA
Judging by Jamaican sea chanties, since at least the 19th century in Jamaica, the word "brown" used as a skin color referent means "light skinned" and/or mixed race (i.e. Black mixed with White and/or another race. "Sally Brown" shanties are examples of the 19th century use of "brown" as skin color references in Jamaica and elsewhere.

Here's some information about Sally Brown shanties from my 2012 pancocojams post with that title:
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"Sally Brown" is a Jamaican sea shanty about a mixed race (mulatto; Creole) woman. Like all shanties, there are multiple versions of "Sally Brown". In addition to the song titled "Sally Brown", there are many other shanties that mention "Sally" and "Sally Brown".

The surname (last name) "Brown" may have referred to Sally's mixed race ancestry. Note that the word "shallow" (challow) in the song "Shallow Brown" means a person of mixed race."
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In the Jamaican sea shanty "Roll And Go", Sally Brown is referred to as a "bright mulatto". In those lyrics "bright" very light and "mulatto" is a person who has one Black birth parent and one White birth parent. (The term "mulatto" has been retired from formal usage in the United States since around the mid 1960s). "Bright mulatto" means the same thing as the United States term "high yellow". That term has also been retired from formal usage since at least the mid 20th century.

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EARLY 20th CENTURY EXAMPLES OF THE WORD "BROWN" IN JAMAICAN SONGS
There are numerous other Jamaican examples of folk songs which feature a person whose last name is "Brown". One example that interested me was  

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JAMAICAN PATOIS DEFINITIONS FOR "BROWN" AND "BROWNING"

Here's a Jamaican Patois definition for "brown" from https://jamaicanpatwah.com/term/Brown-man/1311#.Y8BszHbMK1s

"Brown man (Noun)

English Translation

Light skinned black male

Definition

Slang expression used to refer to a light skinned black male

Example Sentences

Patois: Who dah brown man deh ova deh suh?

English: Who’s that light skinned black man over there?"

 posted by anonymous on September 10, 2013

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Here's a Jamaican Patois definition of the word "browning" from  https://jamaicanpatwah.com/term/Browning/928#.Y8BtGXbMK1s

"Browning

English Translation - Mixed race

Definition - a person who is mixed race with light skin

Example Sentences

Patois: Look pon dah browning deh!

English: Look at that light skin person"

posted by alicia.dean.7940 on March 22, 2017
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Dancehall star Buju Banton had a smash hit called "Love My Browning" in 1992. In that song he may have been referring to mixed race women or to light skin women whether they be mixed race or not. He later recorded a song about how he loves "all Black women". https://genius.com/Buju-banton-love-black-woman-lyric

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WHY DO PEOPLE THINK THAT "BROWN GIRL IN THE RING" IS RACIST?
1. I believe that some people think that "Brown Girl In The Ring" is racist because they believe that any mention of race or skin color is racist. 

For what it's worth, I don't agree with that. 

Under some circumstances, I believe that it is appropriate and perhaps even necessary to use racial or skin color references- for instance for descriptive purposes that don't have or imply a positive or negative valuation.

I believe that the words "There's a brown girl in the ring" (with its earlier words "There's a Black boy in the ring" was written to describe who was playing that game. Given the oppression and prejudice that children of African descent or some African descent live/d under, my guess is that that skin color reference was purposely used to boost up the self-esteem and the group esteem of those children.

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2. Some people think that "brown" in the song "Brown Girl In The Ring" means a light skinned Black person, some other light skinned person who isn't White, and/or a mixed race person.

Those people who think that might also believe that the song (or people who play that game)  encourages children to favor light skinned/mixed race people over other people.
Doing so would be an example of colorism. Colorism means the preference of one skin color over others, for instance favoring light skin Black people over dark skin Black people. 

Here's a comment exchange from the discussion thread for the  YouTube video of Jamaican school girls playing "Brown Girl In The Ring" that is embedded at the top of this pancocojams post. That comment exchange includes a comment that I wrote:


(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)
 

1. Phillip M. Ranglin, 2021
"Did someone stop a girl at the start, saying that she’s not brown?"

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JAFSProject, 2021
"Yes. Right around 6 seconds. I never noticed it before. I can't say that I'm surprised. Unfortunately there is quite a bit of colorism in the schools, and in society here."

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3. Lael Wildgoose, 2021
"I definitely didnt see or hear it...

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4. Ms Sophia Ffrench, 2022
"Yes that's what I hear🤣🤣

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Azizi Powell, 2023
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@JAFSProject ,I revisited this video because I read a comment in the Wikipedia page about colorism in Jamaica that states that "Colorism in Jamaica was perpetuated through social and cultural institutions such as music, social games, sports, and school [28] For example, in one particular school-yard game, Jamaican children have been heard chanting "Brown girl in the ring." According to Dr. Petra Robinson, in her dissertation, the game promotes a preference for 'brown skin girls' over dark-skinned ones,"

I assume that Dr. Robinson meant "lighter brown skinned girls over "darker" brown skinned girls.  I'd like to read her dissertation to see how she arrived at that conclusion instead of interpreting "brown" as a group referent for all Black people in Jamaica (as well as as a group referent for other non-White girls in that nation).

With regard to this video,  It appears to me that all but one of the girls in this video are the same Brown skin color. The girl who appears to be a little lighter  than the others isn't the one who is addressed (at .06 in this video). I believe that one girl told the other something like "You're not brown". I think this comment might have meant something innocuous like "You already had a turn being the brown girl in the ring" or "It's not your turn to be the brown girl in the ring".

As such, I don't think this video is an example of colorism."

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SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE "BROWN GIRL IN THE RING" COULD BE PROBLEMATIC 

The singing game "Brown Girl In The Ring" could be problematic if children sing this song in a majority White setting where there is only one or only a few children of color (meaning "children of some black African descent and/or other children whose skin complexion is brown). I've read comments about brown skinned girls who were given “the honor” or the responsibility of playing the role of the "brown girl in the ring". Even if other people thought/think that this is an honor, it may not be considered that way by those "brown skinned girls" or "brown skinned boys" (when the song is sung to reflect the gender of the child who happens to be in the middle).

Read the comments that are quoted in the Addendum below. 

The "Brown Girl In A Ring" game song can be problematic if the words are adapted to reflect the races/ethnicities of children playing that game. People usually use visual clues such as skin color, facial features, and hair texture to guess what race/ethnicity a person is part of. Those visual clues may be wrong, the person could be of ambiguous ethnicity, and/or the person may consider themselves to be a member of more than one racial/ethnic group. 

I cringe at the thought of children changing the words to "Brown Girl In The Ring" when a girl who looks "White" is in the middle of the ring or when a girl who is Asian in the middle of the ring: i. e, "There's a White girl in the ring tra la la la la" and "There's an Asian girl in the ring tra la la la la." And what of children who are first generation mixed race? Having other people decide which race/ethnicity a mixed racial person is a part of can exacerbate the issues many mixed race people have with the racial identity.

I also cringe at the thought of children changing the words to "Brown Girl In The Ring" using other skin color references such as "yellow" for Asians and "red" for Native Americans, etc..

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MY RECOMMENDATIONS ABOUT THE GAME SONG "THERE'S A BROWN GIRL IN THE RING"
Despite what I consider its pleasant, catchy tune, and its creative lyrics, and more positive attributes, given the racial (and sometimes racist) environment that children still have to navigate in the 2000s, my recommendation is to err on the side of caution and NOT include this song in children's music curriculum, unless it is for older children who are studying the history of folk songs.

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ADDENDUM:
SELECTED COMMENTS FROM A BONEY M VIDEO OF "BROWN GIRL IN THE RING"

Here are some comments from a Boney M video's discussion thread in which the commenters mention racism:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1So7q6IfJ4&feature=emb_logo

(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)   

1. mr y mysterious video, 2009

"true story....

when i was about 6, there was only one black girl in our whole school in wales.

they played this song at our xmas party, we all sat in a circle while she danced for our entertainment - it wasn't a racist thing though - we were being literal and she seemed to enjoy herself."

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2. Becca Secret, 2009
"funny, my aunt thought this song was rascist xxx"

 11. mr y mysterious video

"i was 7, at school in ely, cardiff, wales.

it was christmas, the entire school gathered in a big circle while the sole black girl in school stood in the middle and danced with all her heart to this song - a true story.

and yet... it was all so innocent, nobody had any malice but they wouldn't try that these days!"

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3. mr y mysterious video, 2012

"i was 7, at school in ely, cardiff, wales.

it was christmas, the entire school gathered in a big circle while the sole black girl in school stood in the middle and danced with all her heart to this song - a true story.

and yet... it was all so innocent, nobody had any malice but they wouldn't try that these days!"  

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4. RichXboxOne, 2015
"This is an excellent song, but if it was released now, the PC Brigade and the Loony left would complain about it being racist. "

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5. Francisco Castillo Mata,2017 
"Qué bonitas son las pieles morenas, y cuanto han sido maltratadas por el " hombre blanco" ( y lo siguen siendo, más sutilmente, tal vez ). En un tiempo lejano, todos fuimos negros, o de un color oscuro. Son los orígenes de toda la humanidad. En EEUU, por ejemplo, todavía hay muchísimo racismo, y a veces no se molestan ni en disimularlo ( también en España, por supuesto). Bueno, el vídeo es encantador, y la música muy contagiosa. Solo espero que no me fusilen por haber expresado ciertas ideas, y que la USA Air Forcé no me bombardee."

Google translate from Spanish to English:

"How beautiful are the brown skins, and how much they have been battered by the "white man" (and they are still, more subtly, perhaps). In a distant time, we were all black, or a dark color. They are the origins of all humanity. In the US, for example, there is still a lot of racism, and sometimes they do not bother or disguise it (also in Spain, of course). Well, the video is charming, and the music very contagious. I just hope they do not shoot me for expressing certain ideas, and that the USA Air Force did not bomb me."

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6. Ravneet Bains, 2018
"My mum just told me thought this song was about Asian girls back in the 1980's and she felt very offended at the time because she thought they where being racist. Now she has got over once I told her that the song is light skin black women."

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VISITOR COMMENTS AND MY REPLIES (from the 2017 pancoocjams post) 

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    1. I appreciate your comment, Tommy Jhon.

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  2. Hi, I am mexican and I really love this song, I read all your post and it is very interesting. I don´t think this is a racist song at all but make me feel sad that currently new generations of kids could become to think this is racist.

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    1. Thanks for your comment, Luis Angel Cabrero Blanzar.

      I agree with you that it is sad to think that people could consider "Brown Girl In The Ring" racist. Unfortunately, too many people think that it's racist to even mention race, even if it is mentioned as a way to build self-esteem and group esteem to help counteract racism.

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  3. I am a cuban woman, 30 years old, I first heard this song by Boney M when I was about 15 when I discovered my love for reggae music and I just wanted to thank you for this article. I stumbled across it while showing this song to my daughter. Very good read, thanks again Azizi.

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    1. chawchee, my apologies for failing to return your comment in a timely fashion. I'm just reading it on Dec. 20, 2021.

      You're welcome and thanks for your comment.

      Best wishes to you and your daughter, and keep on keeping on!

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  4. The Song origin es propably from Trinidad, not Jamaica, since Lord Invader was from Trinidad.

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    1. tweetycontrabajo, Thanks for your comment.

      The singing game "Brown Girl In The Ring" predates Lord Invader [13 December 1914 – 15 October 1961].

      "There's A Black Boy In The Ring" singing game is included in a 1904 collection entitled "Jamaican Song and Story: Annancy stories, digging sings, ring tunes, and dancing tunes" by Walter Jekyll. A digital version of this book can be found at https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35410/35410-h/35410-h.htm#Page_207. [This singing game is actually on page 208]

      Best wishes!

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  5. I grew up listening to the Raffi album that had this song. I always thought it was "Brown Girl in the Rain" and imagined it a descriptive song about a child playing in the rain "tra-la-la-la-la" (I imagined her splashing in the puddles). I have a daughter now and played the Raffi album and googled to see if the song was racist. It does seem to be told from the perspective of a viewer of the girl focusing to some degree on her appearance ("brown" and "she looks like a sugar in a plum") which is a little voyer-y, but the beat is so childlike and joyful. I was surprised to find it's actually "Brown Girl in the Ring." The historical/social context makes more sense. Definitely different from my original interpretation of a celebratory song about playing in the rain.

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    1. Thanks for your comment, Anonymous.

      In my opinion, "Brown Girl In A Ring" game song was originally performed only by brown people as a way of helping to instill self-esteem and group esteem. As such it is "racial" and not "racist" in that it doesn't promote one race over another.

      "Brown Girl In The Ring" becomes problematic when it is performed by integrated groups of children and the "Brown girls" are singled out for attention-either good or bad.

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    2. i Just came across this statement about the song "Brown Girl in the Ring" in this Wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colorism_in_the_Caribbean#Jamaica
      "Colorism in Jamaica was perpetuated through social and cultural institutions such as music, social games, sports, and school [28] For example, in one particular school-yard game, Jamaican children have been heard chanting "Brown girl in the ring." According to Dr. Petra Robinson, in her dissertation, the game promotes a preference for 'brown skin girls' over dark-skinned ones.[28] ....
      -end of quote-
      "There's A Black Boy In The Ring" singing game is included in a 1904 collection entitled "Jamaican Song and Story: Annancy stories, digging sings, ring tunes, and dancing tunes" by Walter Jekyll. A digital version of this book can be found at https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35410/35410-h/35410-h.htm#Page_207. [This singing game is actually on page 208]

      I don't know when or why the color referent in this song changed from "black" to "brown". However, I'm not sure that children singing this song consciously or unconsciously are promoting brown skin color over darker [black] skin color.

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    3. I want to acknowledge that my conclusion about whether the game song "There's A Brown Girl In The Ring" is racist is vastly different in my 2023 post on this subject than it was in my original 2017 post on this subject.

      The content of that 2023 post is basically the same as the current 2017 post. Here's the link to that 2023 post https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/01/revisiting-questions-about-whether.html.

      I didn't save any of the old versions of this post because I want to make sure that the content of this post is read rather than what I've come to see is the incomplete and faulty post that I had written and revised between 2017 and now.

      I don't promise that there won't be other additions to this post. If so, I will date them in the post itself.

      Thanks again to all those that read these pancocojams posts.

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  6. Simply the fact that anyone thinking of if its racist or not is a deep-idiotism!

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    1. If I understand your comment correctly, you are saying that a person is really an idiot to consider whether "Brown Girl In The Ring" is or isn't racist.

      I disagree with that statement. Given "Brown Girl In The Ring" 's color referent, I can understand why some people might wonder if this singing game is racist.

      I don't believe its lyrics in and of themselves are racist, but the singing game can be played with racist intent/s and/or racist result/s.


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