Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post presents information about United States Representative Byron Donalds' (Republican-Florida) June 2024 comments about Jim Crow.
This post also presents a urbandictionary.com definition about the FBA (Foundational Black American) meaning of "tether". This post also presents selected comments from a Reese Waters video about Byron Donalds' Jim Crow comments.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/06/article-excerpts-about-population.html for the closely related pancocojams post entitled "Article Excerpts About The Population Referents "ADOS" (American Descendants Of Slaves) And "FBA" (Foundational Black Americans).
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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
People who are members of or supportive of the ideology of FBA and/or ADOS believe that the fact that Representative Byron Donalds is of Jamaican/Panamanian descent (as indicated in his Wikipedia page*) is pertinent to his statements about Jim Crow. They certainly have a point, although I believe that you don't have to be FBA/ADOS to learn about and to recognize the evil of Jim Crow laws and Jim Crow attitudes.
For what it's worth, people who use the terms "ADOS" and/or "FBA" wouldn't consider me eligible to a member of either of these population groups. That is because I am Black Caribbean on my mother's side and I can't trace any enslaved Black American ancestry on my father's side. (My father was adopted from New York state by a Black family in Michigan. I believe that he was Black/White racially mixed, but I don't know anything about his ancestry.)
I consider myself to be pan-African in ideology and I'm highly distrustful of the motivations of the founders and spokespersons of both the ADOS and the FBA movements/lineages.
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*From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Byron_Donalds
..."Donalds was born and raised in the Crown Heights
neighborhood in the New York City borough of Brooklyn.[16][17] One of three
children, he was raised by his single mother.[16] In 1996, Donalds graduated
from Nazareth Regional High School in East Flatbush.[18] Donalds is of Jamaican
and Panamanian heritage.[19][20]"...
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BACKGROUND - BYRON DONALD'S "JIM CROW" COMMENTS
From https://www.politifact.com/article/2024/jun/10/fact-checking-byron-donalds-jim-crow-comments/ "Fact-checking Byron Donalds’ ‘Jim Crow’ comments on Black families, conservatism" by Louis Jacobson and Samantha Putterman, June 10, 2024
"Rep. Byron Donalds, R-Fla., a prominent supporter of former
President Donald Trump, recently tried to draw Black voters to Trump’s side,
but a comparison he made involving the Jim Crow era drew criticism from
Democrats.
At a June 4 event in Philadelphia, Donalds compared today’s Black culture with that of the Jim Crow era, when Black people in the South were subject to multiple forms of state-sponsored discrimination. Jim Crow laws were enacted over several decades following the end of post-Civil War Reconstruction in the late 19th century and formally ended with passage of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act in the mid-1960s.
"You see, during Jim Crow, the Black family was together," Donalds said in a recording published by the Philadelphia Inquirer. "During Jim Crow, more Black people were not just conservative — Black people have always been conservative-minded — but more Black people voted conservatively. And then (the Department of Health, Education and Welfare), Lyndon Johnson — you go down that road, and now we are where we are."
Donalds’ mention of Johnson refers to increased federal efforts to fight poverty, which some conservatives say provided incentives for the breakup of families.
Leading Democrats criticized Donalds’ statement as lionizing the Jim Crow era. House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries of New York, called out Donalds on the House floor, saying his comparison was a "factually inaccurate statement that Black folks were better off during Jim Crow. That’s an outlandish, outrageous and out-of-pocket observation."
The Congressional Black Caucus, which consists of House Democrats, demanded that Donalds apologize to Black Americans "for misrepresenting one of the darkest chapters in our history for his own political gain."
Vice President Kamala Harris weighed in May 10, saying, "It’s sadly yet another example of somebody out of Florida trying to erase or rewrite our true history," referring to a controversy over a proposed rewrite of some Black history standards for middle schools in the state. "I went to Florida last July to call out what they were trying to do to replace our history with lies. And apparently there’s a never ending flow of that coming out of that state."
Donalds defended his comments on MSNBC, saying he was not being "nostalgic" about Jim Crow but was trying to make the narrow point about Black marriage rates and a stronger conservative identity.
During the Jim Crow period, he said, "the marriage rates of Black Americans were significantly higher than any other time since then in American history" and that since then, "they have plummeted."
Some Democratic characterizations of Donalds’ remarks were overbroad. But experts told PolitiFact that Donalds’ remarks about Black Americans’ families and conservative identity were thorny in their own right.
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There is some statistical evidence to support Donalds’ claim about Black marriage rates being stronger during the Jim Crow era. However, it omits a lot of important context, experts told PolitiFact, including the role of broader social, educational and economic patterns."...
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DEFINITION OF "FOUNDATIONAL BLACK AMERICAN" (FBA) AND THEIR MEANING OF "TETHER"
From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tether
"Tether
AS Defined by FBA's
Background Information: FBA (Foundational Black Americans) refers to the LINEAGE OF Black people who are the descendants of those blacks who were enslaved during the period of U.S chattel slavery. Those include:
-native born indigenous black Americans
- Black Freemen
- the 3% or so of Africans arriving during the American slave trade and mixed in with the natives.
Tether refers to a subset of black immigrants arriving mostly after changes to the 1965 Naturalization and Immigration Laws, whom appear to have an Anti-FBA, sociopolitical agenda to replace them and undermine their efforts to pursue protections legislation, long overdue reparations from the U.S Government, and other resources that were originally earmarked to benefit FBAs. FBA's interpret the actions of these "tethers" as traitorous and treasonous since they were primarily responsible for fighting to have the 1965 immigration laws changed and amended to allow black immigrants an unprecedented pathway to citizenship in the U.S. NOTE THE DISTINCTION being made: A "tether" does not refer to "ALL" black immigrants as suggested by the hyperbole of those black immigrants who would be considered "tethers" by FBA's. This only refers to those insurgent black immigrants who move to undermine the efforts of FBAs.
A black immigrant acting as a tether will frequently undermine the efforts of FBAs
by July 3, 2022 [no screen name given]
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT BYRON DONALDS BEING A "TETHER" (FBA MEANING OF THAT TERM)
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJceGvENBiA "Byron
Donalds & Black Conservatives Run Out of Atlanta Cigar Shop, Reese Waters,
July 2, 2024
[summary statement]
"Byron Donalds didn't get the message the first time?!? Two
of the most prominent Black Republicans in Congress gathered in a deep blue
suburb of Atlanta to mobilize Black male voters and make a pitch for why they
should consider voting Republican.
In a two-hour discussion, a crowd of close to 100, mostly Black men, sipped on cocktails and smoked cigars on Wednesday night as they filled a local cigar lounge to hear Reps. Wesley Hunt (R-Tex.) and Byron Donalds (R-Fla.) lay out their positions on everything from immigration and school choice to the future of Black families and Black conservatism. And they were NOT haviiAng it.
The event, billed as “Congress, Cognac and Cigars” and moderated by former ESPN host Sage Steele, was the second in a series of gatherings about why voting Republican benefits the Black community, and part of a broader outreach effort to shore up support among Black voters for former president Donald Trump as he runs for a second term.
But the questions and repeated interruptions from attendees
throughout the event put on display that while many Black men in the room and
across the country might be disenchanted with President Biden, they aren’t
automatically voting for Trump this fall. Instead, Donalds and Hunt, serving as
messengers for the Republican Party and Trump campaign surrogates, were faced
with uncomfortable conversations from a largely Black audience who were not
feeling the Black conservatives. Give it up for ATL yall 👏🏽👏🏽zzz"
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[Pancocojams Editor's Note: This compilation quotes almost all of the comments about this subject in that discussion thread that were published on July 2, 2024 and July 3, 2024. As of July 3, 2024 at 6:55 PM there were a total of 254,227 of views for that video and a total of 3, 224 comments in that video's discussion thread.]
July 2, 2024
1. @harveyhotdog5085
"Bryron is not Black American"
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2. @chadwickmitchell7067
"Neither is Wesley"
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3. @reneem3895
"His ancestors weren’t even here during the Jim Crow
era, but he has some strong opinions about reparations.
It’s very offensive to have people that did not have the
black American experience, inserting themselves in something that has nothing
to do with them."
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4. @nicollettenyob
"Makes sense."
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5. @ronaldhull8057
"@reneem3895 Someone should ask him what year his
mother entered the US! He's never answered that question."
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6. @thelovelycamille528
"@reneem3895 I feel the same way. I can’t stand these
1st/2nd generation immigrants telling us about “our” history here in
America."
7.
"Byron Donald is Jamaican. He doesn’t have an African
American perspective. It’s easier for him to throw us under the bus."
8. @Thisisjustname
"Seriously, I wish more people would bring this up. He
doesn't have the loved history of the US to be talking about what period was
implied to be better for black people."
9.
"Byron Donalds is a tether. He’s of Jamaican and Panamanian
heritage. He doesn’t come from the soil. He has no Freedmen lineage. He doesn’t
speak for the grassroots FBA."
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10. @Mike-di3mo
"Byron is not a descendant of black American slaves. That why
he had no problem signing bill for that statue."
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"That statue" refers to a statue of confederate General Robert E. Lee.
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11. @thickblacklinenet
"He's non-FBA. They not like us. Cut the check. FBAB4U"
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"Cut the check" probably refers to FBA'd demand for reparations.
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12. @simssaber7503
"Byron is an immigrant, not for us."
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13. @aquabone8118
"WE ARE NOT A MONOLITH!"
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14. @autobotdiva9268
"why did the foundational black americans show up to this
immigrant talk anyway?."...
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15. @emilystevens6335
"Tethers are DESPERATE for us to return to
sleeping and vote for Kamala/Biden. Years ago when I saw the devastation to FBA
men after Kamala/Brown reign I CRIED. It
was so shocking to see them homeless and dirty on the streets in Large "
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16. @ClubQRoundDeux
"3:04 From what I understand his mother was not born America.
So he isn't really a descendant of American slavery.
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17. @msjube
"Byron Donaldson heritage is not from American chattel slavery. He is Jamaican/Panamanian."
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18. @ignaciofuentes2642
"Was Byron's family even in this country during the Jim Crow
era? Where is his family from? Is he really a Black American?"
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19. @sanduskyohiobro
"Byron Donald is Jamaican not Black American"
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July 3, 2024
20. @jhalahnw1916
"Byron Donald isn't even a foundation black American. He is
1st or 2nd generation caribbean."
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21. @roseiswine8294
"Bryon is not ADOS..."
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22. @Prettygirlbelike
"these are black immigrants thats why"
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