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Thursday, December 4, 2025

(Part I) New Edition-"Candy Girl" 1983/1984 R&B Song) & Examples Of "Candy Girl" Rhymes/Foot Stomping Cheers

 

dakwa4life, March 19, 2009

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series that showcases the New Edition's 1983 hit R&B song "Candy Girl" and presents examples of the "Candy Girl" rhyme/cheer.

This post presents all of the examples that I have directly collected or that I have found online for the "Candy Girk" rhyme/cheer.

Click __ for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post presents a list of the dances that are mentioned in the rhyme/foot stomping cheer examples that are found in Part I of this series That post also showcases a YouTube video for a few of those dances that are listed in Part I.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks
 to New Edition for their musical legacy, including the song "Candy Girl". Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.  And thanks to the producer of this video on YouTube.
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This post is a re-print (with updates) of a pancocojams post that was first published in 2021. That post is no longer available.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
"Candy Girl" rhymes/cheers are based on the 1983/1984 hit R&B song "Candy Girl" by New Edition.

All of the versions of "Candy Girl" that I've come across begin with a close folk processed portion of th chorus of that New Edition song:
"
Candy girl
You are my world
You look so sweet
You're a special treat."...
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The beginning tune for the examples of "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers that I observed in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and one of its nearby cities was the same as the beginning tune for the "Candy Girl" R&B record. This was probably the case wherever that rhyme/cheer was performed. 
  
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The "Candy Girl" examples that I have come across show a remarkable similarity in their words and their structure.  As of the date of this post's publication (September 8, 2021), I've come aross examples of  "Candy Girl" from the following geographical locations: Brooklyn, New York; Harlem, New York; East Harlem, New York; Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania and some of its surrounding communities; Newark, New Jersey; and Los Angeles, California. "Candy Girl" has also been mentioned in a few other online comments that I've come across that don't have any geographical demographics. 

I'm not sure whether the "Candy Girl" hand clap rhyme is performed differently than the "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheer (comments about the cheer performances are given below in this post). Here's a general note that I wrote about "Candy Girl" foot stomping cheers:

"Candy Girl" is an example of a "dance style" foot stomping cheer. Those types of foot stomping cheers provide opportunities for the "cheerers" (steppers) to show off their dancing ability. The focus in these cheers is on dance names. Ideally, when it's her turn as soloist, each girl is supposed to highlight a different dance. Usually, this means current dances, but old school dances [popular dances that aren't done anymore] can also be highlighted.

The foot stomping cheer "Candy Girl" begins with the group-including the soloist- chanting a portion of the chorus of  New Edition's "Candy Girl" song.

The person whose turn it is as soloist then briefly does a particular dance and the group performs that dance along with the soloist. The members of the group don't need to perform the dance exactly the same way as the soloist."

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Do you remember the Candy Girl rhyme/cheer? If so, please share your version of "Candy Girl" in this post's comment section. For the folkloric record, please remember to include  demographic information (where-geographical location), when (year/decade), and who (your race/ethnicity & gender and the race/ethnicity and gender of those who performed this rhyme/cheer with you. Also, please share how you performed it (Did you perform it as a hand clap rhyme or as a foot stomping cheer?) Thanks in advance!

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EXAMPLES, & COMMENTS ABOUT "CANDY GIRL" RHYME/CHEERS
These excerpts, examples, and comments are given in relative chronological order based on their publishing dates or collection dates. 

Numbers are given for referencing purposes only.

CANDY GIRL (Version #1)
Everyone: Candy Girl.
All my world.
Look so sweet.
Special treat.
Soloist #1: This is the way we do The Bounce.
[Soloist does The Bounce while standing in the same spot and while continuing to chant]
Candy Girl.
Group: Do the bounce.
Do The bounce.
[The rest of the group does their version of The Bounce while standing in their same spot and while continuing to chant]
Soloist #1 All my world
[Soloist continues to do this dance for the reminder of this rendition of this chant]
Group: Do The bounce.
The bounce.
[The rest of the group continues to do this dance for the reminder of this rendition]
Soloist #1: Look so sweet.
Group: Do The bounce.
Do The bounce.
Soloist #1 Special Treat.
Everyone: Candy Girl
All my world
Look so sweet
Special Treat
Soloist #2: This is the way we do The Snake
[Soloist does The Snake while standing in the same spot and while continuing to chant]

[Continue the same pattern as before with each new soloist naming and performing a different current or favorite "retired" R&B/Hip-Hop dance. This continues until everyone in the group has had one turn as soloist.]
-Tazi M. Powell (African American female; remembrance of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania in the mid 1980s; transcribed by Azizi Powell in 1997 from an audio tape that I made in the mid 1980s of my daughter and her friends.

Tazi mentioned that if someone chose the dance "The Cabbage Patch" in order for the syllables of that dance name to fit the beat pattern, the group wouldn't say "Do" for the second mention of the dance name, i.e. They would say "do the Cabbage Patch/the Cabbage Patch".

I also collected this exact same foot stomping cheer [with some different dance names] in 2000 from African American girls in that same age group in Braddock, Pennsylvania (about 10 miles from Pittsburgh).

However, I'm not sure if this cheer is still performed in 2013* in Pittsburgh or its surrounding communities. When I did my last informal gathering of rhymes & cheers in 2007, few girls knew any of the foot stomping cheers from the 1980s and 1990s.

*This summary was written in 2013 for a pancocojams post on this subject that has been deleted and replaced with https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/08/candy-girl-r-record-hand-clap-rhyme.html and with this post.

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[Book Excerpt] & Candy Girl Fragment (Version #2]
From The Games Black Girl's Play: Learning The Ropes From Double-Dutch To Hip-Hop by Kyra D. Gaunt (New York University Press), 2006; chapter: "Mary Mack Dressed In Black: The Earliest Formation Of A Popular Music", sub-title "Hand Clap Games"

(Pancocojams Editor's Note: The author describes African American girls from Harlem performing recreational material that they knew for a television program on WGBH in Boston, Mass. (October 18, 1999). That segment was filmed in New York City.)
..."I turned my focus back to the girls, and five of them were in a circle, surrounded by cameras and a sound boom...

"Lights, camera, action!" The girls began chanting the lyrics and melody of the opening lines of "Candy Girl". I recognized the song immediately and was titillated at discovering a game-song that showed a relationship between recent popular music culture and the ongoing tradition of creating girls games from it as a resource.

The girls patted hand with the girl to either side of them, creating an alternating current of contact around the circle. I was witnessing one of the latest bridges based on the early 1980s "bubblegum soul" of the

[page 73]

group New Edition. The game would have preceded these eight-and nine-year-old girls by ten years: they were born in 1991 and 1992. ("Candy Girl" was New Edition's first single hit, and it became the title of their first album released in 1983.)

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The girls' handclapping, bridge version of "Candy Girl" highlighted the borrowing of popular dances from the recent past: It featured the Jamaican Pepperseed, marked by the alternating movements of the torso from left to right on one two three and (hold) four / one two three and (hold) four. With arms spread out to the side, the movements of the torso on one two three and (hold) four transferred wavy currents of motion from one arm to the other, causing the arms to look and feel like they were treading water. Th game featured the late 1980s dance the Running Man, popularized by bad boy Bobby Brown of New Edition. This dance involved the funky locomotion of lunging forward on alternate feet while thrusting your chest out and pulling your fists back by your sides. The dance was all about subdivided timing of strides marking the offbeats between one and two and three and four, while your feet executed a sliding action and a slight scuffling sound after each forward lunge, emulating a running man (or woman).

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The girls had fit these three dances, and others, into the kinetic orality accompanying the lyrics. They repeated the game-song for the cameras.

Can-dy Girl/You are my world

Look-so sweet/ Spe-cial treat

Following this was a section of show-and-tell, an embodied call-and-response of a sort, where the conjunction between word and the body, between individuals and the collective, became apparent. As they sang of doing the Janet Jackson, they danced the Pepperseed. As they sang of doing the Mike Tyson, the did the Fight. As they sang of doing the Bobby Brown, they did the Running Man.

This is the way you do - the Janet // Jackson ["Pepperseed"]

This is the way you do - the Mike // Tyson ["the Fight"]

This is the way you do - the Bobby // Brown ["the Running Man"]"...
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The words in parenthesis are the names of the dances that Kyra Gaunt wrote that the girls did during that performance of "Candy Girl".
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As noted in this entry, Kyra D. Gaunt placed this "Candy Girl" example in a chapter of her book on hand clap rhymes. She also referred to it as a "game song". 

Kyra D. Gaunt mentions cheers in her "The Games Black Girls Play" book (as noted in this 2017 pancocojams post http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/08/excerpt-about-foot-stomping-cheers-from.html.   However, it appears that Dr. Gaunt didn't consider "Candy Girl" a cheer.

I wonder whether the girls who performed "Candy Girl" for the cameras as documented in that book changed the way they usually performed that example. And I wonder if the way they usually performed "Candy Girl" different from the "cheers" that are described in this post?   

I should also mention that I came across this comment written in 2020 by Kyra D. Gaunt in the discussion thread for the video entitled "90’s hand games (part 2)" that is given below as #8 in this post:.

"What city are you all from? I learned Candy Girl from kids in Harlem. I wrote a book about Black girls musical games."
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Geneas, one of the two young Black women who published that video, responded that they were from Newark, New Jersey. Two other commenters posted these responses: 

nyya0509
"Played these games growin up in Jersey"

and

Alexia BingHeath
"I can tell y’all are from Jersey because I’m from Trenton and we did the same games."
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Presumably, these commenters included "Candy Girl" in the list of "games" that they grew up with in New Jersey. But what [also] interests me is that -like Kyra Gaunt- these two commenters used the term "games" as a catch all referent for a hand clap rhyme and/or a cheer. 

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CANDY GIRL (Version #3)
Candy girl,
all my world,
looks so sweet,
candy treat
This is the way
we do the (insert a dance)

Candy girl
Do the (dance) the (dance)
All my world
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Looks so sweet
Do the (dance) the (dance)
Candy treat
Do the (dance) the (dance)

(Repeat)

Directions:
This one involves the whole participation of the group at once. You repeat it for as many dances as you have until you can’t think of anymore.
- Jennifer (Korean), undergraduate female college student University of Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania ; remembrances of rhymes she performed when she was 8-12 years ; (she indicates that she learned this from African American girls); sent  via email to Azizi Powell in 2005
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In 2005 my daughter, my two pre-teen nieces, one of their girlfriends of the same age, and I presented  a session on playground rhymes & cheers at Carnegie Library (main branch. Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania). Jennifer was a college student who attended that session. She talked with me afterwards. I gave her my email address, and she sent me this cheer and two hand clap rhymes that she knew.

Jennifer described this example of "Candy Girl" as a "Handclap with dance". I wonder if her description that rhe entire group participates as once means that the group decided what dances to do beforehand. In my opinion, this way of performing this cheer is a modification of the original "consecutive soloist" structure where each member takes one turn as the soloist, and comes up with a different dance on the spot and not with prior knowledge of the rest of the group. The rest of the group would then all do the dance with the soloist.

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CANDY GIRL (Version #4)  
does anybody know candy girl? little girls i know still play it!

candy girl, oh my world
look so sweet, special treat
this is the way you do the "wop"(or the "snake", or whatever dance is cute that u know the name of)

candy girl, say wop,wop
oh my world, say wop, wop
look so sweet, say wop,wop
special treat, say wop,wop(and then move on to the next dance)
- bitsy196 (African American female; Los Angeles, California 6-25-2003, 
); http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=4123&page=4; “remember when?”; 6-25-2003
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All of the participants in this Greekchat.com discussion thread are members of historically Black Greek letter sororities. Based on some of the comments that these bloggers wrote and based on some of their screen names, my guess is that they were remembering their childhood play in the 1980 or the early 1990s.

I also collected this exact same foot stomping cheer [with some different dance names] in 2000 from African American girls in that same age group in Braddock, Pennsylvania (about 10 miles from Pittsburgh.

However, I'm not sure if this cheer is still performed in 2013 or since then  in Pittsburgh or its surrounding communities. When I did my last informal gathering of rhymes & cheers in 2007, few girls knew any of the foot stomping cheers from the 1980s and 1990s.

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CANDY GIRL (Version #5)
WOOOOWWWW @ the power of collective memory! This thread is better than I expected to be. Some of these I completely forgot about (Hambone, Lil Sally Saucer to name some). Thanks to those for filling in the blanks. I don't t think this one was mentioned:

Candy girl

All my word

Looks so sweet

Special Treat

This is the way we do the

Salt n Pepa (or something else like the Michael Jackson, the snake, the wop, the butterfly, etc.)

Candy girl

Salt n Pepa! (Do corresponding move)

All my world

Salt n Pepa! (Do corresponding move)

Looks so sweet

Salt n Pepa (Do corresponding move)

Special Treat

Salt n Pepa...

 

Then I think it starts from the top again.
-Naeemah, 07-29-2007, https://www.nappturality.com/forums/threads/81695-Clapping-Rhymes-hand-Games/page8 [This website is no longer available.]

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CANDY GIRL (Version #6)
Candy girl, all my world,

look so sweet special treat

this is the way we (then they name a dance i.e the whop)

Candy girl

do the whop the whop

all my world

do the whop whop

look so sweet

do the whop the whop

special treat

do the whop the whop...

 

goes on with different dances mostly what is in at the time.
-Guest KLC,(East Harlem, New York, New York); http://www.mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=63097 "Folklore: Do kids still do clapping rhymes?" July 11, 2008

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CANDY GIRL (Version #7)
candy girl
you are my world
you look so sweet
you're a special treat
this is the way we do the...

(insert things like butterfly, criss-cross, etc)
-ChrissyIrene, March 25, 2011, http://hunsford.blogspot.com/2007/02/childhood-sayings.html


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CANDY GIRL (Version #8)      
candy girl
all my world
looks so sweet
special treat

this is the way we do the car wash [Do motions with one hand held to the side like you were using a rag to wash a car]

gotta wash the car

Candy girl

gotta wash the car

looks so sweet

gotta wash the car

special treat

gotta wash the car

candy girl
all my world
looks so sweet
special treat

this is the way we wash our face [Do motion of washing your face with a washrag in one hand.]

candy girl

gotta wash my face

all my world

Gotta wash my face
-Geneas and Atiyah (Newark, New Jersey) 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m-NKrzvqz_I&t=2s&ab_channel=Geneas "90’s hand games (part 2)", Geneas, March 28, 2020  [This website is no longer available.]

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Geneas and Atiyah are two young African American women from Newark, New Jersey. The women demonstrate how to play various hand clapping games. For most of the video they are seated. This is my transcription of the handclap game that begins around 4:13-4:56 [There are two takes of this rhyme because of a mistake]. 

This is my transcription of that rhyme. Additions and corrections are welcome.

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ADDENDUM -
 Excerpt Of A 1986? New York Times Article
 …"Many cheers deal with the physical changes of adolescence. The girls do a kind of hokey-pokey to the tune of New Edition's "Candy Girl" for example, but instead of putting their "right foot in", they shimmy forward with their chests and hips and then their buttocks.”…

-from Fromhttp://www.susanhartman.net/assignment_pix/cheers.pdf "It's Not Rap. Give A Clap And A Tap And Call It Cheers" by Susan Hartman [New York Times Page C1 and C6]; [African American and Hispanic girls in Brooklyn, New York, 1986?
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The date that is shown for this article in the pdf. is Aug. 11, 198_. The year 1986 is mentioned in that article and may have been the article's publishing date.

I'm including this excerpt because it is an early documentation of what I call "foot stomping cheers".

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/06/1980s-new-york-times-article-about.html for a pancocojams post about that article. In addition to "Candy Girl", that article also mentioned the cheers "Hollywood Go Angels" (The lines quoted are the same as or very similar to the cheer "Hula Hula"), "Fly Girls", "Betty Boop", and "Lachichu' (which the girls indicated they made up based on seeing a homeless man).  The first three cheers- "Candy Girl", "Hollywood", and Fly Girls" appear to have been widely known among African American girls in the 1980s and 1990s. This article is the only time I've come across any mention of "Betty Boop" [cheer] or "Lachichu". 

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The Sainted Trap Choir's Performance Of Prince's 1984 Song "Purple Rain" On America's Got Talent: Fantasy League (2024)


World Best Talent, Nov 17, 2025
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Here's AI Overview results to question "Did Sainted win AGT" Fantasy League 2024?
"No, Sainted did not win America's Got Talent Fantasy League, they placed fourth in the competition. The group made it to the finals but was eliminated before the winner was announced, with the Ramadhani Brothers ultimately taking the title."

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases The Sainted Trap Choir's performance of Prince's song "Purple Rain" on American's Got Talent: Fantasy League 2024.

Information about The Sainted Trap Choir is presented in this post along with information about America's Got Talent: Fantasy League, and information about the song "Purple Rain".

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to The Sainted Trap Choir for their musical skills. Thanks also to Prince for his cultural legacy. Thanks also to AGT: Fantasy League, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube. 

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INFORMATION ABOUT AMERICA'S GOT TALENT: FANTASY LEAGUE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/America%27s_Got_Talent:_Fantasy_League
"America's Got Talent: Fantasy League (also known as AGT: Fantasy League) is an American reality television and talent competition series that premiered on NBC on January 1, 2024. The "fantasy league" series is a spin-off featuring winners, finalists, fan favorites, and others from previous seasons of America's Got Talent and across the Got Talent franchise, with each judge serving as a mentor for a set of acts. Terry Crews hosts the series, with Simon Cowell, Mel B, Heidi Klum, and Howie Mandel serving as judges.[2]"

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INFORMATION ABOUT SAINTED TRAP CHOIR (Also known as "Sainted")
From https://www.thesaintedtrapchoir.com/meetthesaints
"ABOUT US

In the vibrant intersection of gospel tradition and contemporary hip-hop beats, Sainted emerges as a groundbreaking force. Led by DJ Fannie Mae and Grammy Award-Winning Singer/Songwriter Dennis Reed Jr., this immersive experience delves deep into the Southern church kid's world through music, cultural appreciation, fashion, and art. Think of it as the family reunion in your local hood after Sunday service with your grandma—Sainted is the bridge.

[…]

Sainted's career highlights reflect their trajectory to stardom. From accompanying Andra Day during this year's Super Bowl and performing at the Time 100 Gala alongside Fantasia, to achieving 4th runner-up in the season of AGT's Fantasy League after receiving the golden buzzer from Simon following a powerful rendition of Prince's "Purple Rain," they've left an indelible mark on the music scene. Opening for Janelle Monae’s "Age of Pleasure" tour, a duet with Sara Barellis, and their vocals featured on the Grammys during the Tina Turner tribute performed by Fantasia, underscore their journey of success.

At the heart of Sainted's allure is the 25+ person choir and star-studded band that promises an unforgettable experience. Grounded in the gospel music tradition, they highlight classic gospel and modern-day hip-hop artists, offering a musical journey that resonates deeply with its audience. In the realm of immersive musical experiences, Sainted stands unparalleled, inviting everyone to join this extraordinary celebration of Southern culture and music."
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The Sainted Trap Choir was established in 2020.

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INFORMATION ABOUT "PURPLE RAIN" BY PRINCE
From https://www.songfacts.com/facts/prince/purple-rain
"After Prince released his 1999 album in 1982, he toured in many of the same cities Bob Seger did. He was amazed at how crowds connected with Seger's songs like "Night Moves" and "Mainstreet" - slow songs that told stories people could relate to. Prince decided to write a song in that style, and "Purple Rain" was the result.

The album was actually the soundtrack to the first movie Prince made. He went on to make three more: Under The Cherry Moon, Sign O' The Times, and Graffiti Bridge. Purple Rain won Prince an Oscar for Best Original Song Score (not to be confused with the Best Original Score category, won that year by A Passage to India).

The song "Purple Rain" was the centerpiece of the film and a key plot point. In the movie, the female members in Prince's band, Wendy Melvoin and Lisa Coleman, write a song that Prince ignores, prompting a tirade from Wendy ("Every time we give you a song you say you're going to use it but you never do. You're being paranoid as usual..."). At the end of the film, Prince's crew is in a heated rivalry with another band (The Time), who do a blistering set that Prince must follow. When Prince takes the stage, he introduces "Purple Rain" as being written by Wendy and Lisa, then tears down the house with it

he song was written for the Purple Rain film, but it served Prince very well in concert, where it was often his showstopper."...
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Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvnYmWpD_T8&list=RDTvnYmWpD_T8&start_radio=1
for the official YouTube video of the song "Purple Rain" from that film.

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From AI Overview
" "Purple Rain" is a power ballad that fuses rock, R&B, and gospel. It is a genre-bending song that incorporates elements from these styles to create a unique sound.

Power ballad: The song's emotional and sweeping structure is a hallmark of a power ballad.

Rock: It features soaring guitar solos that are central to the song's rock and roll feel.

R&B: The song has roots in R&B and soul, which are core genres in Prince's music.

Gospel: Gospel influences are evident in the song's spiritual and soulful elements."

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The Astrology Of The Full Moon In Gemini On December 4, 2025 (information, podcast, and transcript excerpt)

Tania Gabrielle, Nov 28, 2025

13:13:13:13 Full SUPERMOON in Gemini [12.4.2025] Astrology Numerology Forecast

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents an excerpt of an online article about the December 4, 2025 full moon. This post also showcases a YouTube podcast about the astrology of the full moon in Gemini and other astrological aspects on December 4, 2025.

The Addendum to this post presents a list of the astrological signs the planets are in on December 4, 2025.

A partial transcript of that video is included in this post along with a list from another online source about which astrological signs the planets are in on that date.

The content of this post is presented for astrological awareness.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Jamie Carter from "lives science.com" 
and thanks to Tania Gabrielle from "Star Codes" for  sharing this information and thanks to Google's autogenerated transcript feature. 

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This post departs from this blog's focus on African American culture and Black cultures throughout the world by focusing on astrology.

I'm taking the liberty to share this video on December 4, 2025 about the astrology of the full moon that occurs on that date, because astrology has been one of my interests for some time. Also, I feel that my Virgo ascendant, Sagittarius sun, Sag Mercury, Sag Jupiter, my moon in Aquarius, and my Uranus in Gemini (among other placements) are prompting me to share this information on this blog.   

This is the first time that I visited Jamie Carter's livescience.com and Tania Gabrielle's Star Code podcast. I found both of those online sites by searching the internet looking for information about the astronomical meaning and the astrological meaning about this full moon. I found the planets today website some time ago and hope that this information will also be of interest to visitors to this pancocojams blog.

Learning about astrology is like learning a foreign language. Here's a link to a website that provides definitions of astrological terms: https://www.chani.com/blogs/astrological-key-terms# "Astrology Key Terms"

Here's a few definitions from that website:
"Birth chart

Your birth chart is a freeze-frame of the sky at the precise moment and location of your birth. It offers a road map of the lessons, gifts, and challenges that will unfold throughout your lifetime.

Your birth chart has three primary components:

Planets / points — aka the “who.” The planets and points act as different characters within the play of our lives, supporting our storylines or foiling certain plots. Each one is necessary, creating specific conditions for our bodies, lives, and relationships.


Signs
— aka the “how.” Each sign has its own signature style, and every planet functions differently through its filter. For example, Mars (the planet of courage and drive) is action-oriented in its fiery domain of Aries. In detail-oriented Virgo, however, it’s aggressively thorough"....

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EXCERPT OF AN ARTICLE ABOUT THE DECEMBER 4, 2025 FULL MOON

https://www.livescience.com/space/the-moon/cold-supermoon-2025-why-the-final-full-moon-of-the-year-also-towers-highest 'Cold Supermoon' 2025: Why the final full moon of the year also towers highest

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By Jamie Carter, Update (Dec. 3, 10:00 a.m. ET): December's full 'Cold Supermoon' will appear bright and full starting tonight, even though it reaches peak fullness on Thursday (Dec. 4). It will also appear full on Friday. Make sure to look up at the year's final supermoon!

Skywatchers are in for a stunning spectacle this week when the second-biggest full moon of 2025, the Cold Supermoon, rises in the east at dusk and appears higher in the night sky than any other full moon of the year.

Officially full at 6:14 p.m. EST on Thursday (Dec. 4), the moon will rise in the east within the constellation Taurus. Although the moon is technically full at a specific moment, it's most visually impressive at the time of moonrise where you are, when it appears largest near the horizon.

[...]

It's the third of four "supermoons" in a row, and the second largest of the year after November's Beaver Moon. A supermoon occurs when a full moon coincides with the moon's closest approach to Earth, called perigee. Supermoons appear about 10% larger than average.

[...]  

December's Cold Moon always climbs higher in the sky than any other full moon of the year. As the winter solstice nears on Dec. 21 in the Northern Hemisphere, the sun appears at its lowest in the sky during the day. In contrast, the full moon — which, by definition, is opposite the sun — rises to its highest at night.

According to The Old Farmer's Almanac, Native American names for December's full moon include the Frost Exploding Trees Moon (Cree), the Moon of the Popping Trees (Oglala), the Moon When the Deer Shed Their Antlers (Dakota), the Winter Maker Moon (Western Abenaki), the Cold Moon (Mohawk) and the Long Night Moon (Mohican). The latter comes from this full moon's closeness to the winter solstice, which occurs on Dec. 21 this year. Old English and Anglo-Saxon names for December's full moon are the Moon Before Yule and the Long Night Moon, according to Time and Date.".

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EXCERPT OF THIS EMBEDDED PODCAST'S 
 AUTO-GENERATED TRANSCRIPT  

Pancocojams Editor's Note: This transcript is given without time stamps from 00-8:35. The full length of this podcast is 14:02. The words that are given in italics inside brackets are my additions where it appeared to me those words were missing from that transcript. 

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"Hello there, it's Tanya Gabrielle, wealth astronologist. Welcome to Star Codes, the podcast where we look at an upcoming event in the stars and numbers, the astrology and numerology. And in this case, it is the Gemini full moon with the sun in Sagittarius. And no, you don't need to be a Gemini to benefit from this forecast. This forecast is for all signs.


Now, Mercury just stationed direct on November 29th, and I'm actually recording this on November
21st, .but once Mercury stations direct, it will still be in Scorpio. And this is the Gemini full moon, which is Mercury sign. And so, it will really stimulate the direct motion.

So, the Gemini full moon happens at 13°, which we're going to dive into much more deeply. 13° Gemini for the moon, 13° Sagittarius for the sun on December 4th at 11:14 p.m. Universal time, London, 6:14 p.m, Eastern time, New York, and that would be 3:14 p.m. Pacific time, LA(Los Angeles).

So since Gemini is ruled by Mercury, these combinations of sign and planet govern motion and activity,
communication, media, fast moving energy, curiosity, facts, and information, writing, speaking.

So, you're going to be looking at how you assimilate your thoughts, information, conversations, and you may just be stimulated a lot more with curiosity and movement, especially since Mercury just stationed
direct again.

Now, with Gemini, the twins, you're invited to experience two sides of the coin without losing sense
of the whole. So you're engaging in vibration in frequency by using both the masculine and feminine, the yin and yang, states of being.

And this will be the key because you're going to see below the surface and above the surface, right? You're going to be balanced in terms of seeing what is not true and what is true, for example, or what is maybe deceptive and what is actual, actually honest. So those are key themes that may come up.

Now we have six planets in mutable signs. The moon in Gemini, the sun, Venus and Mars in Sagittarius and Saturn and Neptune in Pisces. And we also have a grand square or grand cross with the north and south node at 13° and the sun and moon at 13°. So they literally are creating a exact square in the heavens where the nodal axis -these are not planets they're the nodes of the moon but they govern our destiny. They govern the past and the future. They govern our relationships. And so this creates a huge intensive opportunity to look at questions in your life that are asking you to make decisions like which direction do you want to choose? This is like a crossroads.

When a grand square shows up, it's like a big battery that's saying okay, we are really ready for you to decide what to do because you're claiming your present. You're releasing the past. You're saying goodbye to what is no longer working and you're saying "Well what needs to be understood about that" in order for me to move forward.

And it's like this junction that you come to and since this grand cross [is] between sun and moon so the sun is in Sagittarius, the moon in in Gemini and then we have the north node in Pisces and the south node [is] in Virgo.

These mutable signs are helping you to be very flexible because mutable signs are are about change and this is a powerful time of destiny where fate can show up. Right?

So south node in Virgo means you may need to look at some habits in your daily life with colleagues you work with [regarding] health. It really governs health and healing. It's the Virgo axis. Are you being meticulous about these matters and letting go of directions that you have possibly been taking that are to your detriment so that you can move forward in the north node in Pisces where we have this Neptune Saturn conjunction right now that's about to move into Aries early in 2026.

Pisces is the final sign and that's where the North Node is. It's very much about embracing visionary opportunities here. You know, Jupiter was the ancient ruler of Pisces and Neptune is the modern ruler of Pisces. So, Jupiter and Neptune, they're all about breaking through boundaries and just having a visionary perspective that goes way beyond the myopic limited mind. So the north node in Pisces is asking you to look at your life in this way.

And then the Gemini full moon is saying "Well look at both sides of the coin. See behind the mask. You know the mask meaning [means] you are being asked to not go the way of ignorance where you haven't seen the big vision.

Remember the sun is in Sagittarius for this grand square. Sagittarius is ruled by Jupiter. So we have both Pisces and Sagittarius. Pisces is where the north node is- where we're heading, right? Sagittarius is where the sun is. And they're saying, "Look at the big vision. Let go of ignorance, of smallmindedness, of narrowmindedness, of beliefs that have kept you in a box, right? You're breaking out of that box  Now you're seeing behind the mask.

On top of that, the number 13 is activated four times in this grand square. The moon at 13 degrees Gemini, Sun at 13 degrees Sagittarius. They're opposite each other. And then we have the two nodes, North Node at 13° in Pisces, [and] South Node at 13° Virgo.

Now 13° is the divine feminine number, the number of transformation and change and empowerment. It is the number that was denigrated and in a way desecrated on by the church because 13 does represent the awakening of the divine feminine.

Venus has 13 phases. The moon has 13 phases during a year and we have 13 weeks in a season which is all about nature. And so anyway, this is a huge moment for the number 13 being activated in a way that
is in immutable sign. So being flexible, being open, being creative, being imaginative.

And then to add to this incredible super moon, the sun at 13° Sagittarius is conjunct what is called the great attractor. Now the great attractor is at 14 degrees in Sagittarius. It's moving slightly every year.

We also have the galactic center that's coming up at 27 degrees Sagittarius and we will talk about that
for the Sagittarius new moon and 3 I Atlas. There's a lot happening with that later in December. But the great attractor is a very mysterious area in space that has a massive gravitational force and "mysterious" means nobody knows what it actually [is],  how it can function. It has a lot of paradoxes but it is seen as a force that can be, that can create attraction when a planet is conjunct.[it]”…

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ADDENDUM - PLANETS TODAY.COM [retrieved December 4, 2025]
https://www.theplanetstoday.com/astrology.html 

"Which sign is that planet in right now?

Here is a list of each planet (including Pluto and Chiron) showing which sign they are currently in, whether they are in a retrograde motion, and what will happen to them next.

Mercury in Scorpio. Mercury enters Sagittarius at Thu Dec 11 2025 17:39

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Venus in Sagittarius. Venus enters Capricorn at Wed Dec 24 2025 11:25

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Mars in Sagittarius.
Mars enters Capricorn at Mon Dec 15 2025 02:33

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Jupiter (retrograde) in Cancer
. Jupiter goes Station Direct in Cancer at Tue Mar 10 2026 23:29

GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)


Saturn in Pisces. Saturn enters Aries at Fri Feb 13 2026 19:11

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Uranus (retrograde) in Taurus
. Uranus goes Station Direct in Taurus at Tue Feb 03 2026 21:33

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Neptune (retrograde) in Pisces
. Neptune goes Station Direct in Pisces at Wed Dec 10 2025 07:23

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)


Pluto in Aquarius. Pluto goes Station Retrograde in Aquarius at Wed May 06 2026 11:34

GMT-0400 (Eastern Daylight Time)


Chiron (retrograde) in Aries. Chiron goes Station Direct in Aries at Fri Jan 02 2026 09:37

GMT-0500 (Eastern Standard Time)"

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Wednesday, December 3, 2025

Some Examples Of Children's Recreational Rhymes From The United Kingdom That Include Lines About Female/Male Romantic Relationships

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents selected examples of children's recreational rhymes from a 2008 online United Kingdom discussion thread "the student room". 
These skipping rope (jump rope) and/or hand clapping rhymes include lines about female/male romantic relationships

The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, socio-cultural, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This is part of an ongoing series on this pancocojams blog that focuses on children's recreational rhymes, cheers, chants, and/or singing games. As such, this post departs from the main focus of this pancocojams blog which is to provide content about African American culture or other Black cultures around the world. 

The fact that these selected examples of recreational rhymes are from the a United Kingdom discussion thread doesn't mean that these rhymes originated in the United Kingdom. Furthermore, some of these rhymes (such as "Down Down Baby") are documented to have originated with African Americans and/or have versions that originated with or are most closely associated with African Americans.

This online discussion began with a request for participants to share "games [they played] during breaktime at infants/junior school". Discussion thread commenters responded to this request by sharing lists of games, descriptions of one or more games, and partial or complete word examples of rhymes, usually with the category of the play activity (such as skipping rope, hand clapping). These examples of rhymes that include lines about female/male romantic relationships are a portion  of the last category of recreational rhymes that is given above.

These examples document how children's recreational rhymes help influence girls' opinions and expectations about female/male romantic relationships. As these examples show, these opinions and expectations are usually not positive.
 
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ALPHABETICAL LIST OF EXAMPLES OF CHILDREN'S RHYMES THAT INCLUDE LINES ABOUT FEMALE/MALE RELATIONSHIPS

https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317

These examples are presented in alphabetical order based on the first letter of their "title". The titles of these examples are usually the first words of that rhyme that are given in that comment.

A, B

 APPLES ON A STICK
"apples on a stick they make me sick,

they make my heart beat to 46,

not beacuse you're dirty,

not because you're clean,

but because you kissed the boy behind the magazine,

boys boys have all the fun,

here comes the boy with the big fat bum,

he can wiggle he can waggle he can even do the splits,

but i bet you 10 bucks he cant do this,

close your eyes and count to ten and if you mess it up,

you're a bit fat hen!"

(and then there was a weird little counting bit that followed)"
-Elziebelzie, 20-09-2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=4 Playground Games/Rhymes

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C, D

CINDERELLA DRESSED IN YELLA
“This is the skipping rhyme the kids sing and the club I volunteered at

Cinderella dressed in yella'

went upstairs to kiss her fella

How many babies did she have?

1,2,3,4.....
Anamaria90, 2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=2

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DOWN BY THE RIVERSIDE

Anyone remember:

down down baby

down by the riverside

sweet, sweet cherry

no place to go (wow now I type i sense deeper meaning here..)

Looking through the keyhole

nosey, nosey

caught you with your boyfriend

naughty, naughty

didn't do the dishes

lazy, lazy

Jumping out the window

flippin' crazy
-Nynyflower-27-09-2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=5

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DOWN DOWN BABY
"Haha, that song is pretty weird! Our school had one a bit like it, our version started out like nelly's song, I think its country grammar? I'm gonna google it to check... okay yeah, we must've heard it and made our own version that went -


Down down baby, down down the rollercoaster

Shimmy shimmy coco pop, shimmy shimmy POW!

Shimmy shimmy coco pop, shimmy shimmy POW!

I like coffee, I like tea,

I like little boy, little boy likes me,

Little boy, little boy, don't you SHOUT

Little boy, little boy, YOU ARE OUT!

 

With lots of random gun gestures and pointing =S

 

My primary school was so very cool."
-EskimoKisses, 27-09-2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=5

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E, F

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G, H

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I, J

i'M A SEXY,SEXY TEXAS GIRL
"I remember clapping games & weird dance games

Like these ones.

I'm a sexy, sexy Texas girl,

and I come from a landscape far away

I can do, I can do the hula hoo

when the Indians come to town.

There's a boy over there and he winked his eye.

He said I love you, but he tells a lie.

His hair ain't curly, and his shoes don't shine.

He ain't got the money so he ain't mine.

The girls wear red white blue,

and the boys say 'We love you'

and the kids say 'yuck yuck yuck'

when the cowboys come to town.

Yee ha."
-Thecaterpillar, 20-09-2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=4

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I WENT INTO THE BAKER'S SHOP (Version #1)
"I went into the baker's shop

To buy a loaf of bread, bread, bread,

They wrapped it up in a five pound note

And this is what they said, said, said

My name is Elvis Presley

Girls are sexy (wiggle)

Sitting in the back seat

Drinkin' Pepsi (mime drinking)

Had a baby, (mime rocking)

Called it Daisy (mime flower above head)

Had a twin,

Named it Tim,

In the Royal Navy,

Push off! (push each other)

 …Clapping rhymes make no sense"
-Phantom Phoenix, 17 19-09-2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=6803 

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I WENT INTO THE BAKER'S SHOP (Version #2)
Clapping games, 'I went into the bakers shop to buy a loaf of BREAD BREAD BREAD, he wrapped it up in a 5 pind note and this is what he SAID SAID SAID, My..name..is Andy Pandy sugar and candy, tipsy toesy, roly poly sitting in the back seat, drinking all the pepsi, boys go woo woo girls go WOO!' and another one started 'Down by the alley..something about a brother getting a smack?. I LOVED primary school. Might be the same ryhme- Down by the bam bushes, under the sea..? Johnny got a smacking and he blamed it on me' yeah it is the same
-StarsAreFixed 22-09-2008 https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=4

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I WENT TO A CHINESE RESTAURANT (version #1)
"
I went to a chinese restaurant, to buy a loaf of bread bread bread

He wrapped it up in a five pound note and this is what he said said said

My name is...

Elvis Presley girls are sexy

Having babies in the navy

Sitting in the back seat... nudge nudge

FireDeuce, 2008,  https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=2

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I WENT TO A CHINESE RESTAURANT (version #2)
"We had the Elvis rhyme, too, but another variation:

I went to a Chinease Resturant to buy a loaf of bread bread bread.

He wrapped it up in a five pound note and this is what he said said said

My name is

Elivis Presley

Girls are sexy

Sitting in the back room

Drinking pepsi

Having a baby

Calling it Daisy

O. U. T spells OUT move OUT

 

And then you pushed the other person."
-Emma the Hippy, 2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=3

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K, L

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M. N

 


15

I remember this one from primary school!

 

My boyfriend gave me an apple,

My boyfriend gave me a pear,

My boyfriend gave me a kick up the bum,

And threw me down the stairs.

 

I gave him back his apple,

I gave him back his pear,

I gave him back his kick up the bum,

And threw him down the stairs.

 

I threw him over England,

I threw him over France,

I threw him over the USA,

And he lost his underpants.

Perhaps there was more, but i've forgotten it!

BrightGirl, 19-09-2008  https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=2
-snip-
Phantom Phoenix, 2009
“:rofl: I'd forgotten that one! :rofl:

Edit: Oh, but in my school we threw him over England, France and for some utterly incomprehensible reason, Istanbul!”
-BrightGirl,  2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=3

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MY NAME IS ELVIS PRESLEY
"
Our ending to that Elvis Presley one went like this:

My name is,

Elvis Presley,

Girls are sexy,

Sitting in the back seat

Drinking Pepsi,

How is your mother?

All right!

Died in a fish shop,

Last night!

What did she die of?

Corned beef!

How did she die?

Like this (mimes death)"

 

It makes no sense
-username91207, 2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=3

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O, P

ON THE MOUNTAIN STANDS  A LADY
"Ooh our school used to let us play with huge skipping ropes at lunch times, and we used to get one person at each end of the rope to turn it, and someone would jump in the middle (like normal skipping except other people were holding the handles, basically) all while singing this rhyme:

On the mountain, stands a lady,

Who she is I do not know.

All she wants is gold and silver,

All she wants is a nice young man.

All right (girl's name)

Go and tell your mother,

Kissing (boy's name)

Around the corner!

Is it true?"

 

The people singing would say "yes!" "no!" with each jump and when they tripped up on the rope, there was your answer
There were other questions, too, like are you getting married? How many children will you have? (On this one they counted rather than said yes or no) etc
-username91207, 2008,  https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=3

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Q,R

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S, T

TURN YOUR BACK YOU DIRTY RAT
…."There was another [rhyme] for the girls when some rhyme would be sung to determine a girl then she would turn her back towards the circle and the girls would walk around in a circle singing...

Turn your back you dirty rat

I'm suprised at you

for kissing "Noel Edmonds" (for example)

down the avenue

He loves you

he kisses you

he sits you on his knee

he says oh my darling wont you marry me

clap your hands if you love him

roll your hands if you dont mind

stamp your feet if you hate him

now get that in your mind (while whacking the girl on the head)"

 

Most girls usually stamped their feet but it was always fun when someone did actually fancy the lad that was named.
- CheesyBeans, 2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=3


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U, V

UNDER THE BIBLE BUSHES
"
Those hand slapping games ahhhh those were the days...

"Under the bible bushes under the sea (boom, boom, boom)

To-la for you my darling to-la for me

She's getting marriiiied

In California

With sixteen children,

All in a row, row, row your boat,

Gently down the stream;

Tip your teacher overboard

and listen to her scream (*SCREAM*)"
- anarchy,2008,https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=68031719-09-2008 https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317 Playground games/rhymes
-snip-
The title for this rhyme is usually given as "Under The Bramble Bushes".

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W, X

WE ARE THE BEAVER GIRLS
"We are the Beaver Girls,

We wear our hair in curls,

We have our dungarees down to our sexy knees.

You know the boy next door?

He pushed me on the floor,

We did it once or twice,

It wasn't very nice

La la la bum shaka

La la la bum shaka

La la la bum skaka

 

My mother was surprised

To see my belly rise

My father jumped for joy

It was a baby boy.

 

I cant believe we were singing this in primary school! I doubt we knew what it meant!"
- J9127, 2008, https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317

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WHEN SHALL I MARRY?
"When Shall I Marry?
When shall I marry?

This year, next year, sometime, never.

What will my husband be?

Tinker, tailor, soldier, sailor, rich-man, poor-man, beggar-man, thief.

What will I be?

Lady, baby, gypsy, queen.

What shall I wear?

Silk, satin, cotton, rags (or silk, satin, velvet, lace)

How shall I get it?

Given, borrowed, bought, stolen.

How shall I get to church?

Coach, carriage, wheelbarrow, cart.

Where shall I live?

Big house, little house, pig-sty, barn."
-Kew (OP), 29-09-2008M https://www.thestudentroom.co.uk/showthread.php?t=680317&page=5

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Y, Z

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