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Showing posts with label The Stroll. Show all posts

Tuesday, January 7, 2025

Blair Underwood Performs The 1950s Stroll Dance Moves In His 2024 Jennifer Hudson Show "Spirit Tunnel"

 

 



@BRIGHTANDBOLDN
@BRIGHTANDBOLDN, November 1, 2024

Blair Underwood passed the vibe check ❤️—— Jennifer Hudson spirit tunnel #shorts
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Jennifer Hudson Show

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of this pancocojams series on the Jennifer Hudson Spirit Tunnel that was performed on October 30, 2024 by actor Blair Underwood.

This pancocojams post showcases the same YouTube video of actor Blair Underwood's Spirit Tunnel that is featured in Part I of this series, but focuses on Blair Underwood performance of Stroll line dance moves for his Spirit Tunnel.

This pancocojams post also showcases two YouTube videos of The Stroll line dance and presents some information about The Stroll line dance. In addition, this post presents some comments from the discussion thread of that first embedded 1950s Stroll video.

The Addendum to this pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of Black teenagers or young adults performing a dance called "The Walk" which was an adaptation of The Stroll. That post also presents some information about The Stroll line dance. All of the comments from the discussion thread for that video are included in this pancocojams post. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/01/blair-underwoods-jennifer-hudson-show.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a YouTube video short of Blair Underwood's December 2024 Jennifer Hudson Show's Spirit Tunnel. That post also includes my unofficial transcription of the lyrics to that song. Additions and corrections are welcome.

Selected comments from the discussion thread for that embedded YouTube video short is also included in that pancocojams post.

The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.  

Thanks to Jennifer Hudson and the staff of the Jennifer Hudson Show for conceptualizing, creating, and performing celebrity Spirit Tunnels.Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube. 
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/01/blair-underwoods-jennifer-hudson-show.html for the closely related pancocojams post "Blair Underwood's Jennifer Hudson Show Spirit Tunnel (video, lyrics, and comments)".

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-real-originators-of-late-1950s-line.html "
The REAL Originators Of The Late 1950s Line Dance 'The Stroll' : Part I: General Information & Selected YouTube Comments" 
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[This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series on The 1950s Stroll] 


In addition, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/03/black-teens-and-buddy-deane-show-1957.html Black Teens And The Buddy Deane Show (Baltimore, Maryland televised weekly teenage dance show1957-1964) 

and 

https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/09/negro-day-on-buddy-deane-show-1957-1964.html "Negro Day" On The Buddy Deane Show (1957-1964 Baltimore, Maryland Teen Dance Show)". 

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTES ABOUT THE JENNIFER HUDSON SHOW SPIRIT TUNNEL
"The Spirit Tunnel" is a pre-show feature of the Jennifer Hudson Show in which a celebrity guest or guest is/are surprised* by Jennifer Hudson staff performing short a cappella personalized self-created chants or songs, usually to the accompaniment of their hand claps and foot stomping or foot patting. The staff stands in two lines in a hallway leading to the studio. The lines face each other with space in the middle. The celebrity guests are expected to dance or strut down their Spirit Tunnel to the beat of the song or chant that the staff vocalizes. Brian Underwood performed Stroll moves for his Spirit Tunnel.  

*Most of the earliest celebrities who experienced the Jennifer Hudson Show Spirit Tunnels from September through November 2024 were surprised by that pre-show taping feature. (One guest Courtney B. Vance wasn't surprised because two months before his appearance on the Jennifer Hudson Show, his wife Angela Bassett, had experienced her own  Spirit Tunnel. As a result of the video of Angela Bassett's Spirit Tunnel and some other early Spirit Tunnels going viral on YouTube and Tik Tok, by December 2024, most celebrities who appeared on The Jennifer Hudson Show were aware that they would have their own Spirit Tunnel prior to their appearance on the actual talk show.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR VIDEO EXAMPLE #4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PajBJOnRYBI

These comments are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

WARNING: Comment #15 is racist and is only included in this compilation for historical and socio-cultural purposes only. Some other comments in this compilation mention or allude to the assumption that all Black people can dance better than White people or other non-Black people.

2014

1. @brucedelaplain7138
"To the poster: please sync the music with the dancing. It makes no sense otherwise. ...Okay, now that I look further, I'm not even sure this is the music they were listening to. The music (which is awesome) stops and they just keep on dancing."

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2. @rgjraccoon
"Bruce Delaplain Sorry, but this is a WYSIWIG joint.  The folks at the Iowa State University Libraries, in an abundance of caution, deleted the audio of the songs from the entire 35 minute kinescope from which this clip was taken.

I have three other videos that were culled from this kinescope.  As I remember the other videos had tiny snips of the beginning and end of the songs.  With that, I could go to Sound Forge and adjust the length of my song audio to match, as closely as I could, the length of the song in the video.  See Maybe by The Chantels on my channel for what I was up against.  One of the dancers began lip-syncing to the music at about 1 min 40 sec.  It isn't perfect, but it's about as close as consumer grade software will do.

This is the recording to which the kids danced.  The host announced the title and artist of the song at the start of the video.  No, this one isn't synced up right and probably never will be. Iowa State Libraries completely clipped the end of the song audio on this one.  What You See Is What You Get."

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3. @sierria64
"lol soul train line for 50's"

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4. @lasalleman
"Robot dancers."

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5. @JACQUELLE2001
"OK?!!"

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6. @owlcritic
"couple#2, dude, teach your girl to stroll, couple#3, yea you got it."

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7. @JeanneDeSilver
"+james garrity I love the girl in couple #2; she laughs as she strolls down the aisle. I would like it better if the couples would look at each other once in a while!"

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8. @ryanssongrs
"I guess we know where they got the soul train line from now...... Strollin"

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9. @theministersal702
"dosent anyone smile ? must be a borrrrrring dance...looks it....and so out of time.....oh well that was us then..."

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10. @jerryarnold9431
"I AM NOT A RACIST BUT ITS PRETTY STRANGE WATCHING WHITE PEOPLE TRYING TO DANCE"

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2015

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2016

11. @witheringi9492
"The guys are better dancers"

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12. @LuCas-ej1od
"yep. the girls are stiff!"

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13. @j-rich
"it os synced white people just dont have no rhythm"

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2017

14. @NathanThePrezPretlow
"WHERE  THE BLACK STUDENTS ? What kind  of  fun is this.Thank god  for  the 1960's it's  revolution is  coming.F this so call innocent  1950's.That was  a front to hide the  racism on these dance  tv shows."

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15. @nuttybar9
"Maybe they were in prison  isn't that your favorite past time."

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16. @dianemillican9227
"I was 11yrsold when I learned the stroll in 1957!I can say I had a lot more rhythm then these kids"

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17. @eddieseymour9675
"Back in the 70s when I was a kid my mom taught me how to do this, she was a teen in the 50's so she loved this dance."

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18. @KandisG
"They don't look like they are having much fun at all! Smile kids! This is as good as it gets :)"

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2018

19. @bigdancd
"Talk about your two left feet! Someone should have taught these rich white kids how to dance. They're not even with the beat. Glad Momma sent this white kid to tap and modern jazz dance classes for 7 years. Helped me a lot when I became an adult."

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2019

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2020

20.@elcruzer5514
"I insisted on playing a stroll at my Senior Prom in 1974.

My girlfriend and I had been practicing,so we thought we were height of cool.

The Stroll hadn't been heard since the 60's.and everyone else was Pogoing."

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21. @TheWizardOfTheFens
"Nobody looks like they’re having fun!....."

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2021

22. @noreenceraulo8420
"This is the saddest looking group of strollers. We used imagination & turned around without always holding hands AND we smiled!! We had fun!!"

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23. @jacquelynthompson3283
"Just so basic do u have any video of Black people doing the stroll 🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️🤷🏽‍♀️"

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2022

24. @duanemiller4083
"They don't look like they enjoy dancing."

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25. @lindalaw8368, 2023
"They had stage fright and were scared of the camera. Either that or they used LSD. Damn."

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26. @sharonreeves2949
"Bless em, so nervous, barely a smile until the ordeal is over. The lads focussing so much on getting the steps right, they hardly pay attention to their company. Its a lovely window into the time, the delightful innocence of the age, despite it being affected by knowing they were being filmed. Did you see the girl start to laugh and the boy shush her? They were obviously told not to make a sound in front of the camera. Even though its a bit arteficial, it still shows the vast difference between a school dance then and 20 years later, when I went, in the UK, and the dance round your handbags era and prog rock that killed romance forever...'Hi Ho Silver Lining' ended every school 'disco', no longer 'I Only Have Eyes For you' 😢"

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27. @cynthiapickett7403
"The girls don't look very enthusiastic, unlike the guys."

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28. @killerdillr
"This is Camel Walk but execute very tamed. They might call i The Stroll in the fifties but look up where it came from."

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2023

29. @mattsmith6741
"This  video took place at the local ABC affiliate in Des Moines Iowa. That channel 5 and the state of iowa in the background .. interesting  it’s all white kids but than again this was a local teen show in Des Moines , Iowa ."

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30. @brianparton8934
"The younger ones don't seem to enjoy this.  "All my buddies are going to razz me for dancing....on TV!"

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31. @alpha-omega2362
"nothing more than the ole Virginia Reel.."

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32. @lesterjordan1317
"Soul Train Line !!!! NOT"

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2024

33. @lorrainebowens1446
"They are said i agree mymom .uncles.aunts use to turn around doing the stoll they need black peoplle shw them how it go😢😢😮😮"
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“Said” in this comment Is probably a typo for “sad”.

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34. @johntyrone3639
"It was The Virginia Reel, that gave birth to The Stroll....:"

ADDITIONAL SHOWCASE YOUTUBE VIDEOS 

EXAMPLE #2 - 
The Original Stroll - February 1958


MrMemories, Feb 4, 2011

On a local television dance show in Idaho in February 1958, local teens dance to one of the biggest dance crazes out of the late-1950's called The Stroll, which originated from American Bandstand. This dance was performed in a line formed with boys on one side and girls on the other, creating an isle between them. The boy and girl in the front of the line would meet up in the middle, grab hands and stroll their way down the line, as the other kids in the line would move their way up to the front using the same dance steps that the couple moving down the line would use, but move from side to side instead. When the first couple made their way down the line, another couple would meet in the middle and stroll down the isle.

Today, a new version of The Stroll is done in the form of a group line dance, but this is how it was done originally.
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Seventeen is the name of a teenage dance show that was aired on WOI-TV Ames Iowa. The Stroll line dance was created by Black Americans in 1957.

The Stroll was popularized in 1960 by the dancers on the White teenage dancers on the hit television series American Bandstand. Unfortunately, there doesn't appear to be any film or video clips of Black Americans doing the Stroll in the 1950s or since then, including the 2020s.

The video summary by MrMemories that is given above refers to a new version of The Stroll. I haven't found any other referent to a new version of that dance.

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EXAMPLE #3- American Bandstand 1957 & 1968 - The Stroll, The Diamonds

YouCanDanceToIt!, Feb. 3, 2018

To celebrate AB's 11th anniversary, the kids in 1968 try to do The Stroll to a clip of the kids in Philadelphia from 1957. Airdate: Aug. 17, 1968
Music: The Diamonds - "The Stroll"


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ADDENDUM -The Stroll dance origin - film + Patsy by The Diamonds



GeoSilverAway, Aug 13, 2021

The late 1950s US dance fad was created by blacks and the Stroll hit record was by the Diamonds in 1958. I believe Chuck Willis and his group used to do the step in his stage performances, creating the dance.

This 1957 movie "Let's Rock" with Julius Larosa showed this gem film of blacks doing the dance in a park.

There were other stroll recordings that weren't big hits. This Diamonds song (@2:04) from 1958 was only released in Australia, and later on this Pop Hits LP.  Jack Scott recorded it in 1960.

I'd like to find footage of black groups on stage doing their dance steps, if you have any tips. Even stage shots of Chuck Willis.
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I previously included this video in Part III of the 2022 pancocojams series about the Stroll. The link for that series is given near the beginning of this 2024 post. 
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For the historical & socio-cultural record, I'm re-printing all of the comments that have been published in this video's discussion thread (as of this pancocojams publication date of January 7, 2025).

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

2021

1. @johnnysalter7072
"Thanks, I have been curious about this."

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2. @bl00dhoney
"Wow! what a difference to those rhythmless zombies on tv"

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3. @cooldaddy2877, 2022
"I presume you are referring to the kids dancing to The Stroll by the Diamonds. Firstly, you are very rude to call them Zombies. Some background info for you. Up until that famous tv clip, the Stroll was almost exclusively a black dance and it was just becoming mainstream. Half an hour before that tv section was shot, those "zombies" were taught it for the first time....so have some respect. I wonder how you would do with only practising a "new" dance for half an hour or so before going on national tv. Secondly, the dance in this clip with the black dancers is NOT the Stroll...it is a slightly faster dance called The walk."

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4. @animosity4u85
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Yes you are right. White people dance like they just crawled up out of the grave."

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2022 

5. @cooldaddy2877
"This dance is not the Stroll....it is the Walk."

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6. @gsmoviememories9254
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Thanks. Do you know anything about Chuck Willis creating it?"

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7. @cooldaddy2877
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@gsmoviememories9254  Chuck Willis was called King of the Stroll from, I think 1957. I dont think he created it, it just evolved out of black nightclubs. Impossible to say who was first but almost certainly just a kid having some kicks."

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8. @gsmoviememories9254
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@cooldaddy2877  I can see the backup group doing this on stage."

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9. @realmofthesenses, 2023
"Whatever it('s called, looks way better than other stroll vids on YT."

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@cooldaddy2877, 2023
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@realmofthesenses  You have to understand the back story to the original Youtube vid."

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2024

10. @johnrichard6639
"I'M 79yrs DID THE STROLL, GUESS WHAT, THAT A'INT IT.  BEST WATCH BAND STAND!! DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING, BUT IT ISN'T THE STROLL!!😧😟"

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11. @GSMovieMoments
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I know it's not the Stroll we learned "in school" but I guessed they were just using a different configuration. Now someone says it's The Walk." 

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12. @richardtester2859
"Did you know that the Demo of "The Stroll" was sung by Brook Benton? Brook also joined The Diamonds during their recording of the song. He helped out with the backing vocals."
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Brook Benton was an African American R&B singer. The Diamonds were a White Rock & Roll music group.

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13. @andyhudson3495
"👍"

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Friday, January 3, 2025

Similarities And Differences Between Soul Train Lines & Jennifer Hudson Show Spirit Tunnels


jimmiekaggs, Nov 12, 2010

Soul Train Line to the O'Jays Love Train

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest Revision-January 24, 2025 (title change)

A number of YouTube comments wrote that the Jennifer Hudson Show's Spirit Tunnels are modern day Soul Train lines.
  
This pancocojams post showcases one video of the Soul Train television series "Soul Train line", and one video of the Jennifer Hudson Show's Spirit Tunnel.

This post also lists the differences between the Soul Train Line and the Spirit Tunnel. 

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

Thanks to Don Cornelius for his conceptualization and promotion of The Soul Train Line and thanks to the Soul Train dancers for their performances of Soul Train Lines. Thanks to Jennifer Hudson's staff for the concept of the Jennifer Hudson Show's Spirit Tunnels and thanks to that staff and celebrities for their Spirit Tunnels performances. In addition, thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these embedded videos on YouTube. 
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/01/jennifer-hudson-talk-shows-spirit.html for the first post in this pancocojams series on The Jennifer Hudson Show's "Spirit Tunnels".

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/01/how-jennifer-hudson-talk-shows-spirit.html for the second post in this pancocojams series. The title of that post is "How The Jennifer Hudson Talk Show’s Spirit Tunnels Became a Fan Favorite (YouTube Video & Comments)".

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - ‘The Jennifer Hudson Show’ Spirit Tunnels

Jennifer Hudson Show, Jan 1, 2025

Michelle Obama, Halle Bailey, Naturi Naughton-Lewis, and more — oh, my! Don’t miss the latest stars stepping into the “Jennifer Hudson Show” Spirit Tunnels. Watch D-Nice, Smokey Robinson, the cast of “No Good Deed,” and Lucky Daye. Plus, see Kerry Washington and the cast of “The Six Triple Eight” bring their moves to the hallway!

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SIMILARITIES BETWEEN SOUL TRAIN LINES AND SPIRIT TUNNELS

1.Both the Soul Train Lines and the Spirit Tunnels were conceptualized by and are largely associated with African Americans.

2. Both the Soul Train Lines and the Spirit Tunnels are two types of line formations for group dancing and/or rhythmical performances.

3. The Soul Train Line and The Spirit Tunnel are variants of the 1950s Rhythm & Blues dance "The Stroll".  Soul Train Lines and Spirit Tunnels have the same formation of two lines of people facing each other with a space in the middle (that creates a center row).

In 
Soul Train Lines the top person in their rows take their turns dancing down the center row.

In Spirit Tunnels a designated person or designated people (the guest celebrity/celebrities) dance/s down or strut/s down that center row.

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DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE SOUL TRAIN LINES AND THE SPIRIT TUNNELS

1. The purpose of Soul Train Lines is to showcase the participants' dancing ability and to showcase the specific music that the participants dance to.

In contrast, the purpose of the Spirit Tunnels is to welcome and hype up a specific celebrity/celebrities who is/are the guest/guests that day on that Jennifer Hudson television show.

In addition, secondary purposes of the Spirit Tunnels are to showcase the dance moves of the honored celebrity/celebrities and to showcase the creativity of the Jennifer Hudson staff who create and perform a personalized song or chant for each honored celebrity/celebrities who dances (moves) down the Spirit Tunnel. The staff repeats that song or chant for each person or persons while those guest/s move down the center row.      

2. Soul Train lines can occur within any specific large space, either indoor or outdoor.

In contrast, Spirit Tunnels (as they are originally performed on the Jennifer Hudson television show) are only performed within the hallway that directly leads to that show's studio. 

3. In Soul Train lines, everyone dances to a specific record (almost always from the R&B genre or Hip- Hop genre).  

In contrast, in Spirit Tunnels, there's no recorded music and there are no live instruments.. Instead, people stand in the two lines that are facing each other and sing or chant specific pre-determined lyrics or words. They accompany their personalized shirt song or short chant for the guest/s celebrity/celebrities by rhythmically clapping their hands. In addition, they usually make percussive foot stomps along with their hand claps. These hand claps and foot stomps have their source in historically Black Greek letter fraternities and sororities stepping.

4. In Soul Train lines the people forming the two vertical lines move while they dance, traveling in their lines until they get to the top of the line. When they reach that spot, they take their turn moving down the center row.

In contrast, for Spirit Tunnels, the people forming the two vertical lines don't move from their place in their line. Instead, they remain where they are standing while they sing (or chant), clap their hands, and perform syncopated, percussive foot stomps.

5. In Soul Train lines, the two people who are at the top of the line dance down that center row to the bottom of the line and may then rejoin that line.

In contrast, in Spirit Tunnels, a specific person or specific persons (celebrity/celebrities) who isn't/aren't part of those two vertical lines dances (moves) down the center row.  Usually, that person or persons is/are silent while they are moving down that line and usually their movements are continual (i.e. they don't stop while they are moving, but they may switch up what movements they are making). 

It has become somewhat traditional for the celebrity/celebrities to face the two rows of people and silently, or verbally with or without gestures thank them for their creation of their Spirit Tunnel.

6. Soul Train Lines can continue for an open ended amount of time.

In contrast, Spirit Tunnels end when the specific person/persons reaches the end of that line (the end of the hallway) and enters the show's studio.

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Monday, April 4, 2022

Videos Of The 1958 Rock & Roll Line Dance "The Stroll"


YouCanDanceToit!, Feb 3, 2018

To celebrate AB's 11th anniversary, the kids in 1968 try to do The Stroll to a clip of the kids in Philadelphia from 1957.

Airdate: Aug. 17, 1968

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest update - August 30, 2026

This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series on the Stroll, a late 1950s/early 1960s Rock & Roll line dance.

This post showcases YouTube videos (film clips) of The 1958 [Original] Stroll dance.

This pancocojams post also showcases several videos of the Soul Train line. The Soul Train Line was modeled after the 1950s/1960s Stroll line dance. I showcased Soul Train Line videos from the 1970s because I prefer that decade to the 1980s Soul Train Line videos. 

This pancocojams post also includes a bonus film clip of Black teens or young adults performing a somewhat related 1957 Rock & Roll dance called "The Walk". That film clip is from the 1957 movie entitled Let's Rock.  

The videos in this post are mostly given without my editorial notes. However, Part I of this pancocojams series includes my notes about the film clip that is given as Video #2 below and Part II of this pancocojams series provides some background to Video #1 in this post. 

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/02/soul-train-line-formation-video.html f
or additional Soul Train line videos and information about the Soul Train line (2012 pancocojams post entitled "The Soul Train Line Formation - Five Video Examples").

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-real-originators-of-late-1950s-line.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. Part I presents general information about The Stroll along with selected comments about that dance from a YouTube video discussion thread.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/which-teen-dance-show-first-televised.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. Part II presents excerpts from the 2012 book by Matthew F. Delmont entitled "The Nicest Kids In Town, American Bandstand, Rock 'n' Roll, and the Struggle for Civil Rights in 1950s Philadelphia"*. Mathew F. Delmont's book focuses on The Mitch Thomas Show, a 1950s Wilmington, Delaware Black teen dance show. That book quotes various sources which document that White dancers on American Bandstand watched The Mitch Thomas Show to learn the latest Rock & Roll dances, including "the Stroll".  

The content of this post is presented for historical and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners. 

Thanks to all of the publishers of these videos on YouTube.  
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This post is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on 1950s and 1960s Rock and Roll dances. Click the tags below for previous pancocojams post and for subsequent pancocojams posts on this subject.   

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ADDITIONAL VIDEO EXAMPLES OF THE STROLL

VIDEO #2: The Original Stroll - February 1958

 

MrMemories, Feb 4, 2011

On a local television dance show in Idaho in February 1958, local teens dance to one of the biggest dance crazes out of the late-1950's called The Stroll, which originated from American Bandstand. This dance was performed in a line formed with boys on one side and girls on the other, creating an isle between them. The boy and girl in the front of the line would meet up in the middle, grab hands and stroll their way down the line, as the other kids in the line would move their way up to the front using the same dance steps that the couple moving down the line would use, but move from side to side instead. When the first couple made their way down the line, another couple would meet in the middle and stroll down the isle.
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Corrections: "The Stroll" didn't originate on American Bandstand and this 1958 film clip was from Ames, Iowa and not Idaho.  

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VIDEO #3: 
The Stroll - The Diamonds - (Strolling) American Graffiti (Blu-ray 1080p)

soulgladiator27, Dec 30, 2022  #50s #60s #diner

Strolling at the hop

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec_WPieGf98
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Graffiti " 'American Graffiti' is a 1973 American coming-of-age comedy-drama film...that is "Set in Modesto, California, in 1962"...

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TWO 1970s VIDEOS OF THE SOUL TRAIN LINE (which was modeled after "The Stroll"

VIDEO #1: Soul Train Line Dance to The O Jays Love Train



MultiMaestro77, Nov 30, 2010
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I'm not sure when this Soul Train Line was filmed, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soul_Train_episodes indicates that the O'Jays appeared
on anepisode of Soul Train on April 21, 1973.  

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VIDEO #2



steve3, Feb 18, 2014
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I'm not sure when this Soul Train Line was filmed, but https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Soul_Train_episodes indicates that Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes appeared on an episode of Soul Train on Feb. 23, 1974.

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BONUS FILM CLIP: 
The Stroll dance origin - film + Patsy by The Diamonds



GeoSilverWay, August 13, 2021

The late 1950s US dance fad was created by blacks and the Stroll hit record was by the Diamonds in 1958. I believe Chuck Willis and his group used to do the step in his stage performances, creating the dance. This 1957 movie "Let's Rock" with Julius Larosa showed this gem film of blacks doing the dance in a park... -snip-
"Chuck Willis 
 (January 31, 1926[1] – April 10, 1958) was known as the King Of Strolls. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Willis

I'm not sure if he and his group did Stroll steps during his stage performances, but it would make sense that he did. However, that doesn't mean that Chuck Willis created the Stroll line dance.
   
"Cool Daddy" wrote a comment in that video's discussion thread in 2022 that, among other things, indicated that "the dance in this clip with the black dancers is NOT the Stroll...it is a slightly faster dance called The walk".

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The Mitch Thomas Show- The Wilmington, Delaware Teen Dance Show That First Televised "The Stroll" Line Dance? Hint: It Wasn't American Bandstand

Edited by Azizi Powell

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This is Part II of a three part pancocojams series on the Stroll, a late 1950s/early 1960s Rock & Roll line dance.

Part II presents excerpts from 2012 book by Matthew F. Delmont
 entitled "The Nicest Kids In Town, American Bandstand, Rock 'n' Roll, and the Struggle for Civil Rights in 1950s Philadelphia"*. 
Mathew F. Delmont's book focuses onThe Mitch Thomas Show, a 1950s Wilmington, Delaware Black teen dance show.  
That book quotes various sources which document that White dancers on American Bandstand watched The Mitch Thomas Show to learn the latest Rock & Roll dances, including "the Stroll".  

In this pancocojams post, Excerpt #1 from Matthew F. Delmont's book The Nicest Kids In Town... provides some introductory information about The Mitch Thomas Show, and Excerpt #2 discusses the practice if not the policy of the American Bandstand television show of disallowing non-White dancers on that Philadelphia based show. Excerpt #3 of that book    documents how performances of the Stroll on The Mitch Thomas Show was how the American Bandstand dancers learned that dance. Unfortunately, there are no film clips of The Mitch Thomas Show.

* "The Nicest Kids In Town" is a song in the 2002 Broadway musical romantic comedy Hairspray and the 2007 American film with that same title.  In those productions, that song introduces people to "The Corny Collins Show", a fictitious television series that was based on The Buddy Deane Show, a 1950s Baltimore, Maryland teen dance show.

Hairspray features a brief scene of the 1957 Rock & Roll line dance "The Madison". Several pancocojams posts about that dance will be published ASAP and a link to the pancocojams post that showcases some video examples  of those dances will be added here. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/the-real-originators-of-late-1950s-line.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. Part I presents general information about The Stroll along with selected comments about that dance from a YouTube video discussion thread.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/videos-of-rock-roll-line-dance-stroll.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. Part III showcases three YouTube videos (film clips) of "The Stroll" and two videos of the Soul Train Line which was modeled after "The Stroll" line dance. The Soul Train Line was a signature feature of the nationally syndicated Black teen dance show Soul Train.  

Part III of this pancocojams series also includes a bonus film clip of Black teens or young adults performing a somewhat related 1957 Rock & Roll dance called "The Walk". That film clip is from the 1957 movie entitled Let's Rock.  

The content of this post is presented for historical and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Matthew F. Delmont and thanks to all others who 
are quoted in this post.  

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This post is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on 1950s and 1960s Rock and Roll dances. Click the tags below for previous pancocojams post and for subsequent pancocojams posts on this subject.   

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BOOK EXCERPTS FROM THE NICEST KIDS IN TOWN, AMERICAN BANDSTAND, ROCK 'N' ROLL, AND THE STRUGGLE FOR CIVIL RIGHTS IN 1950s PHILADELPHIA
Excerpt #1:
From 
http://nicestkids.com/nehvectors/nicest-kids/mitch-thomas-television-pioneer

from the book The Nicest Kids In Town by Mathew L. Delmont
"America's Bandstand: 1957-1964, page 3 of 9

Mitch Thomas, Television Pioneer

If Georgie Woods became the most prominent rock and roll personality in Philadelphia and teenage singing groups and their fans provided the energy that fueled the music’s growth in the city’s neighborhoods, Mitch Thomas brought black rock and roll performers and teenage fans to television. Born in West Palm Beach, Florida, in 1922, Thomas’s family moved to New Brunswick, New Jersey, in the 1930s. Thomas graduated from Delaware State College and served in the army before becoming the first black disc jockey in Wilmington, Delaware in 1949. In 1952, Thomas moved to a larger station (WILM) that played music by black R&B artists. By early 1955, Thomas also had a radio show on Philadelphia’s WDAS, where he worked with Woods and Jocko Henderson. When a television opportunity opened up in Thomas’s home market of Wilmington, Thomas got the call over these better-known Philadelphia-based radio hosts.[xxiv]

The Mitch Thomas Show debuted on August 13, 1955, on WPFH, an unaffiliated television station that broadcast to Philadelphia and the Delaware Valley from Wilmington.[xxv] The show, which broadcast every Saturday, featured musical guests and teens dancing to records. In its basic production the show resembled Bandstand (which at the time was still a local program hosted by Bob Horn) and other locally broadcast teenage dance programs in other cities. The Mitch Thomas Show stood out from these other shows, however, because it was hosted by a black deejay and featured a studio audience of black teenagers. Otis Givens, who lived in South Philadelphia and attended Ben Franklin High School remembered that he watched the show every weekend for a year before he finally made the trip to Wilmington and danced on the show. “When I got back to Philly, and everyone had seen me on TV, I was big time,” Givens recalled. “We weren’t able to get into Bandstand, [but] The Mitch Thomas Show gave me a little fame. I was sort of a celebrity at local dances.”[xxvi] Similarly, South Philadelphia teen Donna Brown recalled in a 1995 interview: “I remember at the same time that Bandstand used to come on, there used to be a black dance thing that came on, and it was The Mitch Thomas Show…And that was something for the black kids to really identify with. Because you would look at Bandstand and we thought it was a joke.”[xxvii] The Mitch Thomas Show also became a frequent topic for the black teenagers who wrote the Philadelphia Tribune’s “Teen-Talk” columns. Much in the same way that national teen magazines followed American Bandstand, the Tribune’s teen writers kept tabs on the performers featured on Thomas’ show, and described the teenagers who formed fan clubs to support their favorite musical artists and deejays.[xxviii] The fan gossip shared in these columns documented the growth of a youth culture among the black teenagers whom Bandstand excluded. It was one of these fan clubs, moreover, that in 1957 made the most forceful challenge to Bandstand’s discriminatory admissions policies.[xxix] Although many of these teens watched both Bandstand and Thomas’s program, as Bandstand grew in popularity and expanded into a national program, The Mitch Thomas Show was the only television program that represented Philadelphia’s black rock and roll fans.

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Drawing on his Thomas'scontacts as a radio host and the talents of the teenagers who appeared on his show, the program helped shape the music tastes and dance styles of young people in Philadelphia. In a 1998 interview for the documentary Black Philadelphia Memories, Thomas recalled that “the show was so strong that I could play a record one time and break it wide open.”[xxxii] Indeed, Thomas’s show hosted some of the biggest names in rock and roll, including Ray Charles, Little Richard, the Moonglows, and Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. Thomas’s show also featured several vocal harmony groups from the Philadelphia area.[xxxiii] Like Woods, Thomas promoted large stage shows in the Philadelphia area as well as small record hops at skating rinks.[xxxiv] In a 1986 interview with the Wilmington News Journal, Thomas remembered that these events were often racially integrated: “The whites that came, they just said, ‘Well I’m gonna see the artist and that’s it.’ I brought Ray Charles in there on a Sunday night, and it was just beautiful to look out there and see everything just nice.”[xxxv] The music and dance styles on his show also appealed to the white teenagers who danced on American Bandstand.[xxxvi] Because the show influenced American Bandstand during its first year as a national program, teenagers across the country learned dances popularized by The Mitch Thomas Show.

Despite its popularity among black and white teenagers, Thomas’s show remained on television for only three years, from 1955 to 1958

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WVUE cancelled The Mitch Thomas Show in June 1958, citing the program’s lack of sponsorship and low ratings compared to the network shows in Thomas’ Saturday timeslot.[xl] Shortly after firing Thomas, Storer announced plans to sell WVUE in order to buy a station in Milwaukee (FCC regulations required multiple broadcast owners to divest from one license in order to buy another). Unable to find a buyer for WVUE, Storer turned the station license back to the government, and the station went dark in September 1958.[xli] The manager of WVUE later told broadcasting historian Gerry Wilkerson: “No one can make a profit with a TV station unless affiliated with NBC, CBS or ABC.”[xlii] As Clark and American Bandstand celebrated the one-year anniversary of the show’s national debut, local broadcast competition brought The Mitch Thomas Show’s groundbreaking three-year run to an unceremonious end. Mitch Thomas continued to work as a radio disc jockey through the 1960s, until he left broadcasting in 1969 to work as a counselor to gang members in Wilmington.[xliii]

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Two other local dance programs featuring black teens proved more successful than The Mitch Thomas Show. Teenage Frolics, hosted by Raleigh, North Carolina deejay J.D. Lewis, aired on Saturdays from 1958 to 1983, and Washington D.C.’s Teenarama Dance Party, hosted by Bob King, aired from 1963 to 1970. Most famously, Soul Train started broadcasting locally from Chicago in 1970 before being picked up for national syndication from 1971 to 2006. Fifteen years before Soul Train, however, Mitch Thomas brought the creative talents of black teenagers to television.[xliv]

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On the eve of Bandstand’s national debut in 1957 the television show was part of the local development of rock and roll in Philadelphia, but the most influential performances took place outside of Bandstand’s television studio."

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Excerpt #2
From 
http://nicestkids.com/nehvectors/nicest-kids/remembering-american-bandstand-forgetting-segregation
…"black newspapers in Chicago, New York, Atlanta, and Philadelphia noted when black artists appeared on American Bandstand.[v] While black viewers saw many of the top black recording artists on American Bandstand, they almost never saw any black teenagers among the show’s dancers or studio audience.

As noted earlier, while several black teenagers attended Bandstand in the show’s first two years as a local program (1952-53), the program soon adopted admission policies that, while not explicitly whites only, had the effect of discriminating against black teenagers.[vi] Among the black teenagers who protested this discrimination, Walter Palmer engineered a plan to get membership cards for black teens by giving the applications Irish, Polish, and Italian last names, and teens from William Penn high school in North Philadelphia wrote to the Commission on Human Relations asking the city’s discrimination watchdog group to investigate Bandstand’s segregation.[vii] None of these efforts changed the show’s admission policies, and, by the time Clark took over the show in 1956, it was primarily a space for white teenagers. Shortly after Clark became the host of the show, the Philadelphia Tribune ran its first front-page story on Bandstand. Citing a “flood” of “complaints of racial segregation” by black teenagers who sought admission to the show, the front page story declared “No Negroes on Bandstand Show, TV Boss Says They’re Welcome.”[viii] In response to the Tribune reporter’s questions, James Felix, a WFIL program manger, insisted that the show admitted teens on a “first-come, first-served basis.” Felix also said he suspected that few black teens “showed up at the station because they didn’t ‘feel welcome.’ But…that does not mean that we (the station) do not want them to participate on bandstand.”[ix]

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In addition to these teenagers, several contemporary press accounts outside of Philadelphia questioned the policy of racial segregation at American Bandstand. In September 1958, the New York Post ran a series of articles about the program and quoted an anonymous veteran of the show who claimed that it was WFIL-TV’s “practice [to admit] only eight or nine” black teenagers per day, “and not to focus the camera on them.” When asked about the lack of representation of black teenagers, Ted Fetter, an ABC executive, said the network’s decision was influenced by the controversy that erupted over deejay Alan Freed’s television program showing black teenage R&B singer Frankie Lymon dancing with a white teenage girl a year earlier.[xii] Clark refused to comment about the camera shots of the studio audience, but held that the show’s “doors are open to anyone who wants to attend.”[xiii] In the midst of the payola scandal in 1959, the black newspaper New York Age also raised the question of segregation on American Bandstand. “[W]e are concerned about another matter which has never seemed to bother many people,” the article offered. “This is the question of Negro participation on the various TV bandstand programs.” After praising the “quiet, but effective” efforts of Alan Freed to address racial prejudice in the music business and to welcome black teenagers in his concert audiences, the article asked, “Have you ever seen Negro kids on Dick Clark’s program? Perhaps, a few times, but the unspoken rule operates—Negro kids simply have been quietly barred from the ‘American Bandstand.’[xiv]

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Several of the white teenagers who danced on American Bandstand in the late 1950s support the contention that participation of black teenagers did not increase substantially after Clark took over the program. Arlene Sullivan, a regular on the show from 1957 to 1959, remembered that black teens “had their own show [The Mitch Thomas Show],” and that while “nobody ever kept anybody out,” only a few black teens ever came to the show.[xvi] When asked about the racial or ethnic composition of the audience, Joe Fusco, who attended South Philadelphia High School and danced on the show every day from 1957 through 1959, was more suspicious:

It was very, very white, that’s what it was. At that time, I would watch people who were black, or not white, Puerto Rican, I don’t care what they were, they wouldn’t let them in….To this day, Dick Clark takes credit for the few times black kids got in there, but he never wanted them in there. And that was very disgusting to me. I had no control over something like that. That was about the most disgusting thing, to see that is very heartbreaking, as a kid and knowing what they’re actually doing and doing it in a sneaky way. Because no matter how long those kids waited in that line, somehow someway they didn’t get in, because I used to look to see if they got in later. And in my time going to that show, I only saw two black kids that got in and sat in the bleachers, and he [Dick Clark] paid no attention to them.…Not many [black teens] even tried to get in there. That I really want to stress. You’d never see that many try to get in there, but when you did, and you knew that they were not going to get in, it bothered you.[xvii]"...

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Excerpt #3
From http://nicestkids.com/nehvectors/nicest-kids/imagining-and-selling-national-youth-culture?path=national

…"American Bandstand established Philadelphia as the locus of this national youth culture, and it drew extensively from the creative abilities of the city’s youth. Some of these contributions were well documented, others obscured. On the one hand, Italian-American teens figured prominently in the show’s image of youth culture. Many of the show’s regular dancers and local fans hailed from working-class Italian-American neighborhoods, and they later remembered American Bandstand as providing them with unique exposure. On the other hand, the program’s racially discriminatory admissions policies remained in place. With the program broadcasting nationally, black teens were erased not just from the “WFIL-adelphia” regional market, but also from the national youth culture American Bandstand worked to build. While the next chapter examines the struggles over segregation surrounding the program, this chapter shows how American Bandstand became established as the afternoon site of the nation’s youth.

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The 1958 American Bandstand Yearbook emphasized this point on a page titled “a new dance every day”: “‘The Chalypso,’ ‘The Walk,’ ‘The Stroll’—the list of new dances you’ve seen first on ‘American Bandstand’ just seems to grow each day. How do they get started? Well, if you ask some of the guests at the program, ‘They just happen.’”[v] Despite the suggestion that “new dances have ‘just grown’ on the program,” most of these dances did not originate on American Bandstand. Rather, many of the dances originated at local teen dances or were performed by the black teenagers on The Mitch Thomas Show."

Ray Smith, who attended American Bandstand frequently and has done research for one of Clark’s histories of the show, remembers that he and other white teenagers watched The Mitch Thomas Show to learn new dance steps. Describing the “black Bandstand,” Smith recalled:

First of all, black kids had their own dance show, I think it was on channel 12, but one of the reasons I remember it is because I watched it. And I remember that there was a dance that [American Bandstand regulars] Joan Buck and Jimmy Peatross did called "The Strand" and it was a slow version of the jitterbug done to slow records. And it was fantastic. There were two black dancers on this show, the “black Bandstand,” or whatever you want to call it. The guy’s name was Otis and I don’t remember the girl’s name. And I always was like "wow." And then I saw Jimmy Peatross and Joan Buck do it, who were probably the best dancers who were ever on Bandstand. I was talking about it to Jimmy Peatross one day, when I was putting together the book, and he said, "oh, I watched this black couple do it." And that was the black couple that he watched.[vi]

These white teenagers were not alone in watching The Mitch Thomas Show. Smith’s experience of watching the show supports Mitch Thomas’ belief that “[American Bandstand teens] were looking to see what dance steps we were putting out. All you had to do was look at ‘Bandstand’ the next Monday, and you’d say, ‘Oh yeah, they were watching.’”[vii] They were watching, for example, when dancers on The Mitch Thomas Show started dancing The Stroll, a group dance where boys and girls faced each other in two parallel lines, while couples took turns strutting down the aisle. Thomas remembers that the teens on his show “created a dance called the Stroll. I was standing there watching them dancing in a line, and after a while I asked them, ‘what are y’all doing out there?’ They said, ‘that’s The Stroll.’ And The Stroll became a big thing.”[viii] The Stroll was actually a new take on swing-era line dances, and while the teens on The Mitch Thomas Show did not invent The Stroll, they, along with young fans of black R&B in other cities, were among the first young people in the country to perform the new version of the dance.[ix] The Stroll was inspired by R&B artist Chuck Willis’s song “C.C. Rider,” itself a remake of the popular blues song “See See Rider Blues,” which was first recorded and copyrighted by Ma Rainey in the 1920s and was subsequently recorded by dozens of others artists. Following Willis, a string of other R&B songs were produced based on the dance. By late 1957, the Diamonds, a white vocal group that frequently recorded cover versions of black R&B songs, released “The Stroll,” a song made specifically for the dance. Dick Clark was a friend of the Diamonds’s manager, Nat Goodman, and told him: “if we could have another stroll-type record, you’d have yourself an automatic hit.”[x] The Diamonds version outsold the others largely because American Bandstand played the song repeatedly. In addition to helping move the Diamonds’s version of the song up the charts, the frequent spins also falsely established American Bandstand as the originator of the dance. The show offered viewers instruction on how to do the Stroll by showing close-ups on the dancers’ feet during the dance.[xi] The show’s yearbook offered fans of more explicit instruction on the dance.

All this emphasis on American Bandstand as the birthplace of The Stroll upset some of the teenagers on The Mitch Thomas Show. Thomas later recalled that Clark was gracious when he complained to him about American Bandstand taking credit for the dance. “I called Dick Clark and told him my kids were a little upset because they were hearing that the Stroll started on ‘Bandstand’” Thomas remembered. “He said no problem. He went on the show that day and said, ‘Hey man, I want you all to know The Stroll originated on the Mitch Thomas dance show.’”[xii] While Clark was courteous in this instance in acknowledging the creative influence of The Mitch Thomas Show on American Bandstand, the television programs remained in a vastly inequitable relationship. The Mitch Thomas Show broadcast to the Delaware Valley on an independent station that was not affiliated with one of the three major networks. American Bandstand, on the other hand, reached a national audience of millions with the financial backing of advertisers, ABC, and Walter Annenberg’s media assets. The question of the Stroll’s origins remained contentious because such “new” dances were one of the many products that American Bandstand sold to viewers. The appropriation of these creative energies contributed to the frustration felt by black teens who were denied admission to the show. The dance styles perfected by the black teenagers on The Mitch Thomas Show did reach a national audience, but the teens themselves were not depicted as part of the national youth culture American Bandstand broadcast to viewers.”….

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Sunday, April 3, 2022

The REAL Originators Of The Late 1950s Line Dance 'The Stroll' : Part I: General Information & Selected YouTube Comments

Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series on the Stroll, a late 1950s/early 1960s Rock & Roll line dance*.

This post presents general information about The Stroll along with selected comments about that dance from a YouTube video discussion thread.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/which-teen-dance-show-first-televised.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. Part II presents excerpts from the 2012 book by Matthew F. Delmont entitled "The Nicest Kids In Town, American Bandstand, Rock 'n' Roll, and the Struggle for Civil Rights in 1950s Philadelphia"*. Mathew F. Delmont's book focuses on The Mitch Thomas Show, a 1950s Wilmington, Delaware Black teen dance show. That book quotes various sources which document that White dancers on American Bandstand watched The Mitch Thomas Show to learn the latest Rock & Roll dances, including "the Stroll".  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/04/videos-of-rock-roll-line-dance-stroll.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. Part III showcases three YouTube videos (film clips) of "The Stroll" and two videos of the Soul Train Line which was modeled after "The Stroll" line dance. The Soul Train Line was a signature feature of the nationally syndicated Black teen dance show Soul Train.  

Part III of this pancocojams series also includes a bonus film clip of Black teens or young adults performing a somewhat related 1957 Rock & Roll dance called "The Walk". That film clip is from the 1957 movie entitled Let's Rock.  

The content of this post is presented for historical and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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This post is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on 1950s and 1960s Rock and Roll dances. Click the tags below for previous pancocojams post and for subsequent pancocojams posts on this subject.   

*The Stroll Rock & Roll line dance is performed differently from the historical Black Greek letter fraternity/sorority performance activity called "strolling". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/05/black-university-graduates-in-united.html for information about and video examples of Black Greek letter organization strolling.   

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INFORMATION ABOUT "THE STROLL" (ROCK & ROLL LINE DANCE) 

These quotes are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only.

Excerpt #1
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stroll
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The Stroll was both a slow rock 'n' roll dance and a song that was popular in late 1950s. The dance called the Stroll began in black communities to the songs "C. C. Rider" and "Betty and Dupree" by Chuck Willis. Willis was known as "The King of the Stroll" prior to the release of the song of that name. Teens' dancing during the 1950s was widely varied in steps and styling. Most of it was still swing-based, but swing had been diverging into local styles and regional variations each decade for thirty years. In one high school it might be low and smooth; in another, wild and angular. In some areas it was constant swing moves, while in others it was dancing with steps in place, simply holding your partner's hand, with no swing moves.

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Billboard first reported that "The Stroll" might herald a new dance craze similar to the "Big Apple" in December 1957.[3][4]

In the dance two lines of dancers, men on one side and women on the other, face each other, moving in place to the music. Each paired couple then steps out and does a more elaborate dance up and down between the rows of dancers.[5] Dick Clark noted the similarity of the dance to the Virginia reel.[6] It was first performed to "C. C. Rider" by Chuck Willis on American Bandstand. Link Wray's "Rumble" was also a popular tune for doing the stroll.

The Diamonds had a hit song entitled The Stroll in 1957.

When 1950s nostalgia came to the forefront in the 1970s, The Stroll saw renewed public awareness. It was used in the film American Graffiti (1973) during the scene at the high school dance and is mentioned in some of the lyrics in the musical Grease. Led Zeppelin's 1950s rock homage "Rock and Roll" mentions the Stroll.

The Stroll was an integral part of most episodes of the dance TV series Soul Train, where host and creator Don Cornelius dubbed it the "Soul Train Line." "

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Excerpt #2
From http://www.ehow.com/list_7271106_line-dances-1960s.html Line Dances From the 1960s
"The Stroll started in the 1950s, but its popularity lasted into the early '60s. The song, by a group called The Diamonds, was released in 1957 and became a big hit on "American Bandstand." The dancers form a line of men and a line of women, facing each other. Couples peel off the end of the line in turn and dance their way down the center to the end of the line, showing off their best moves."
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This article begins with information about the 1950s & early 1960s line dances are "the Madison" and "the Hully Gully" and ends with the 1950s dance "The Bunny Hop".

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE ORIGINS OF THE ROCK & ROLL DANCE "THE STROLL" AND/OR COMMENTS ABOUT  HOW THAT DANCE  WAS PERFORMED

These comments come from the discussion thread for the film clip that is showcased as Video #2 in Part III of this pancocojams series.

These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only.

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrGLNtZ0rEg&ab_channel=MrMemories 

The Original Stroll - February 1958, MrMemories, Feb 4, 2011
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A number of commenters indicated that this 1958 local Iowa television film clip was from Iowa and not Idaho. Also, a lot of commenters described the White teenages who performed the Stroll on that 1958 film clip as being nervous, and/or or having very little rhythm and enthusiasm. (One of those dancers wrote that he and the other teens had just learned that dance shortly before that televison segment was filmed. Read that comment in this pancocojams discussion thread below.)

There are also a lot of comments in that YouTube video's discussion thread comparing the dancing in this film clip very unfavorably to the Soul Train Line. The Soul Train Line is a  feature that was a signature part of Soul Train, an American nationally syndicated television series that featured teenage dancers and performances by recording artists.Soul Train aired from 
October 2, 1971, to March 25, 2006. Soul Train featured a Black host and almost all of its teenage dancers were Black. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soul_Train 

However, I want to focus on a few of  the comments from that YouTube video's discussion thread that responded to the video publisher's statements that "The Stroll... originated from American Bandstand" and "this is how it ["the Stroll"] was done originally."

American Bandstand was an American nationally sundicated televisionAmerican Bandstand, abbreviated AB, was an American nationally syndicated television series that featured teenage dancers and performances by recording artists. 
 American Bandstand aired in various versions from 1952 to 1989. When it was based in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, if not afterwards, American Bandstand in practice if not by policies did not allow Back teenagers and other non-White teenagers to be parts of its studio audiences. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Bandstand

Part III of this pancocojams series showcases examples of Stroll dancing including this above referenced 1958 Iowa film clip video, along with a 1958/1968video of American Bandstand, a video of the 1973 movie American Graffitti, and two 1970s videos of the Soul Train Line.

Full discloser- I posted several additional comments to that discussion thread in addition to the one that is included below.

2012

1. Michael Kelemen
"American Bandstand got The Stroll from The Mitch Thomas Show.

The kids who danced on Mitch Thomas didn't make it to Bandstand because Bandstand was segregated.

Matt Delmont explains in his book, The Nicest Kids in Town"
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2. TheReturnofStephan1
"The Stroll", as a dance, began in began in black communities, usually danced to the 1975 Chuck Willis hit song, "C. C. Rider", not on "AB".

Dick Clark's program never really created pop culture phenomena.

It merely "exploited" them.

 

That said, I always find it amusing that whenever there are posts about "not wanting to 'talk politics'", it ALWAYS ends up being code for whites not wanted to be "called to the carpet" by blacks for appropriating the latter's culture.:)"

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2016

3. victor manley
"MUSIC THEY STOLE FROM BLACK PEOPLE"

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4. RAFAEL RAMIREZ
"+victor manley NO BRO, MUSIC THEY LIKED AND ACCEPTED!"

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2020

5. Cass Darlon
"This was "borrowed" from black dances by some very observant and brave white teens. This innocent looking dance was forbidden from white high school dances when it was first introduced. White teens had to do it at their private parties."

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6. Beverly Tomlin
"Perhaps the original stroll for this show, but definitely not the “Original Stroll.” Research please"

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7. Lafayette Smyre
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The stroll and just about every modern dance style was created by Blacks. Whether Black Americans or those of the Caribic, or South American countries or fo4 that matter Africa. What these dancers are do in a poor version of a rhythmic dance. It’s pitiful to see how badly they were doing those movements. But this was filmed at a time when people of  non-Northern European descent were  rarely seen on television."

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8. Kathy GARBEŔ
"Well , don’t know where this was but where I was ..Cincinnati , Oh we had more life in our Stroll  ! These kids weren’t even moving their feet correctly ! I was 13 when the Stroll was popular , then the Mashed Potatoes , the Locomotion , the Twist  ! Fun times in America in the 50’s !"

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9. Seahunt 60
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When I was in high school, I came home every evening couldn't wait to tun on American Bandstand. I would stand in front of t.v. and dance. They did the stroll. But they didn't hold hands it was a bit different but it also was a few yrs. Later. Brings back memories I loved to Do the stroll"

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10. Linda Koschwitz
"These kids have no clue!!! Philly kids did this the best!!!"

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11. john donohoe
"Ok pick up the beat, speed it up and get some Black folks in to show us how to do it!"

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12. hollie65
"This thing is Dullsville til the 3rd dancer, Gene Vincent strolls to wonderland with plenty of cool and attitude!"

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13. Ellarwee Gadsden
"These kids can't dance and we knew that back then. But they wouldn't have black kids on TV. Why do you think that was?"

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2021

14. Ahmasi Lloyd
"
All of the popular dances of that era had their origins in the African American community just as in previous eras when jitter bug took hold in white America and across the globe! During American Bandstand's heyday, Black kids weren't allowed on the show but the popular dances they did originated in Philadelphia' s Black community!  My friends from Philly would come up to New York during the summer and we'd learn the new dances from Philly! These kids didn't do the Stroll justice; it had a lot of other steps and different communities had their variations of the dance!"

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15. Azizi Powell, 2022
"@Ahmasi Lloyd,  I agree with you that the dancers on American Bandstand tried to copy The Stroll from that dance's originators- Black teens from Philadephia where American Bandstand was filmed.

There's extensive documentation that American Bandstand had a practice if not a policy of only allowing White dancers on that show. Here's a link to one online article about that https://www.phillymag.com/news/2012/03/01/american-bandstand-didnt-allow-blacks/  Dick Clark’s American Bandstand Didn’t Originally Allow Black Dancers

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16. Dan Jones, 2021
"Sorry, this is not the original, they can’t enough do it right, no rhythm 🥁 you need to keep looking and find who their trying to copy."

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17. Darrell Campbell
"I kept looking for the token black dude but nope! Not even. The fifties must have been terrifying. Nothing but white kids. Wow."

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18. Dorothy Crawley
"And we all know what race people invented "the STROLL".."

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19. JoJo Sewist
"They look pretty good  especially some of guys waiting their turn  But the next couple should be starting when first couple about as third to fourth of way down alley.  You keep it full but all need to be in same time, so it looks really super.  At least that's what my aunt who danced like that in 1958 told me."

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20. Pat Peters
"Yup, that's how we did the stroll. When the couple got near the end a new couple was starting to stroll down the line.

Maybe they were just learning it."

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21. harmoniabalanza
"this dance is a direct descendant of the tradition of Virgina Reels and minuets, etc. About 1000 years of handed down culture that only has been lost in the last 40 years.  Conga lines too."

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22. Ola Scruggs
"Black kids did the stroll too but it had more styling and profiling in it. Like snapping fingers, spinning, leaning, (more like strutting) and you and your partner were in sync with each other and the music no matter what they were doing. These people were not feeling this music. To my surprise, back in the 80's, I found that older White men who were formerly vets could do an acceptable "shag". Some could even freestyle whereas their children were rather stiff. I guess they learned on relief in bars, USO shows, etc. Now just about everyone can dance.

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23. Gilmore Mccoy
"Well known fact! Black people were created the stroll and sang the lyrics.

Whites will take credit for air if they can get away with it 🤮!"

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24. 
sugarfalls1
"Do you realize how risque this song was probably for this era!  lol  If they only knew how some musicians would start dancing across the floor 40 yrs from this song, they'd be flabbergasted!"

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25. hollie65
"This thing is Dullsville til the 3rd dancer, Gene Vincent strolls to wonderland with plenty of cool and attitude!"

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26. Robin Nelson
"Part of the "Stroll" was to look like you were bored and could care less. Being giddy was square

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27. Karli Rastetter
"My Grandpa and his twin brother are in this video! He said everyone one of them were so nervous as it was such a big opportunity “to be on TV:)”
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The discussion thread for this pancocojams post includes a comment from one of the twins who danced The Stroll in this 1958 Iowa television show.. 


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28. Frances McStay, 2022
"I wondered why one guy seemed to "stroll" twice. I was thinking no way he could have made it back to the front of the line. Lol."

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29. Janet Little
"Here I thought The Stroll came from my town, Philadelphia!  My cousin, born in 1944, knew all of the dances."

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30.  DJ Rychlak
"Where are all the black kids?  This music 'borrows' from Black culture.  But only the white kids are dancing."

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fob1xxl
"I was 13 and would dash home from Jr. High to watch "American Bandstand" to learn all the new dances. I remember how big this was ! I'll be 77 in April and can still do the Stroll !"

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32. Michael Lawson
"😂😂😂😂😂😂😂bvllshvt, dmn whites didn't televise anything concerning blacks , no one knows when line dance started, blacks had they own thing started long before whites though about it"
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This is how this comment is written in that discussion thread.

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33. Billy Yonet
" @Michael Lawson  thank you…

We all know what you said is true…all of blues and rock n roll was black music, and it wasn’t ‘allowed’ until white kids starting getting into it."

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34. Wendy Lynn
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The third couple looked like they were having fun. The rest of them were so nervous."

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35. Reneer Ornellas
"I'd love to see the black version 🤣🤣"
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Unfortunately, there are no surviving film clips of Black people doing the Stroll in the 1950s and 1960s. The earliest films of Black people dancing the Stroll appear to be from the Soul Train Lines from the 1970s.


However, click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrrElzKqBhA for a clip from a 1957 movie called "Let's Rock" which shows Black teens/young adults doing the somewhat related Rock & Roll dance called "The Walk".

That YouTube video incorrectly labeled that dance as "The Stroll". A commenter with the screen name "Cool Daddy" corrected that mislabeling and chided a previous commenter for criticizing the teenagers who were filmed dancing the Stroll in that 1958 Ames, Iowa television show. (Video #2 in Part III of this pancocojams series.). 

Here's that comment: 
 Cool Daddy, 2022
"I presume you are referring to the kids dancing to The Stroll by the Diamonds. Firstly, you are very rude to call them Zombies. Some background info for you. Up until that famous tv clip, the Stroll was almost exclusively a black dance and it was just becoming mainstream. Half an hour before that tv section was shot, those "zombies" were taught it for the first time....so have some respect. I wonder how you would do with only practising a "new" dance for half an hour or so before going on national tv. Secondly, the dance in this clip with the black dancers is NOT the Stroll...it is a slightly faster dance called The walk"

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