"A viral video involving Black conservative Thelma Louise at
a Ken Paxton political rally is sparking heated debate across America. Why was
she reportedly kicked out of the rally, and what does this controversy reveal
about race, loyalty, and belonging in the Republican Party?
In this video, we examine the viral footage, the online
backlash, and the growing debate over Black conservatives, MAGA politics,
racial tensions, and whether political loyalty guarantees acceptance.
Is this an isolated incident, or does it raise bigger
questions about minority representation in conservative politics? Watch until
the end and share your opinion in the comments." -snip- Statistics for this YouTube video as of October 23, 2026 at 3:09 PM EDT total #of views - 4,272 views
total # of comments -36
**** Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube podcast about a Tik Tok video that was published by Black conservative Thelma Louise. A few clips of that TikTok video are included in that podcast.
In her Tik Tok video Thelma Louise shares her reaction to being kicked out of a October 2026 political rally for Texas Republican Senate candidate Ken Paxton. (The Democratic candidate for the United States Senate in Texas in 2026 is James Talarico (White American male).
This post includes clips from various people who share their opinion about Thelma Louise and her Tik Tok video.
Selected comments from this podcast's discussion thread are also included in this pancocojams post.
Click to the transcript feature to read the comments that are made in this podcast.
The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and political purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Thelma Louise, and all others who are featured in this podcast. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to Thee Black Lens for publishing this video on YouTube. -snip- *According to the description of this YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/@Blacklens-l4x , Thee Black Lens is from Kenya, East Africa. However, he provides this statement: "On this channel, I'll break down the stories involving
racism, discrimination, segregation, social justice, Black culture, race
relations, American politics, civil rights, economic empowerment, and current
events affecting Black communities across the United States."
**** SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
All of these comments are from Oct 20, 2026 to Oct. 26, 2026. These comments are given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.
1. @J_Boogiee-e1d "The only surprise is that she’s
surprised."
** 2. @ronaldblack-zb4yn "I care 0% lady, your issue!"
** 3. @kevinking5406 "Tatum
Owens
Hodge Twins
Diamond and Silk
On and on and on. ๐ ๐คฃ ๐"
** Reply 4. @stephenrowe1921 "And don't forget "uncle" Tim Scott,the minstrel
man. Mr. Bojangles reincarnated."
** 5. @MrMalcolm900 "Its pretty amazing how judgmental people are. Oh, and sir
you are not even American, please mind the business that pays you over there in
whatever country your from."
** 6. @learnwithniashow "It did make her even more foolish smh I would be ashamed to have put that online ahhahahaha now the whole world ๐ is making meme of you smh ๐คฆ♀️"
** 8. @georgewashington3555 "She left Democratic party 2 years ago. What exactly did she like in the last 2 years ... ? that she wanted to change ?"
** 9. @georgewashington3555 "Who is she really ? We know that ... her name is not Thelma Louise. This is some narcissistic twist and a grift."
** 10. @keithbrazell6909 "That 2nd guy killed me๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ because you're black do do dah do do dah๐ ๐ ๐ ๐ "
** Reply 11. @kshummingbird "Hilarious, I'm dead ๐๐ ."
** 12. @Ryda_Prophet.B1 "She's the type to say slavery wasn't a bad thing people make mistakes, racism no longer exist because we are not in chains or working on a plantation."
** Reply 13.@Blacklens-l4x "So true"
** 14. @Joe-hx7ob "So desperate for attention...๐ข"
** Reply 15. @Gee-q5c "I don't know about others but fly's in the Buttermilk always
get my attention. And there' seems to always be one."
** 16. @scottiescott5006 "They are against DEI, Black Museums, Fired Black and women
Generals, Cuts in the Dept of Education, Cut voting rights, cut affirmative
action programs. cut SNAP programs. They Lie cheat and steal. So, what is it
that you like about the Republicans??????"
** 17. @jbarnes705 "Why are still talking about this turncoat, who switched Party affiliation, because she saw something that appealed to her in the Republican Party, to find out, they didn't want her, and embarrassed her in front of everyone. FAFO!!!"
This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series about the Black American saying "invited to the Cookout".
This post showcases a YouTube video that went viral of Sam Sanchez, a White man from Chicago, Illinois allegedly performing the Percolator dance during a cruise in 2024. That video may have been taped without Sam Sanchez's foreknowledge.
This pancocojams post also includes a YouTube video of a 2025 television news interview with Sam Sanchez about that viral dance video.
Selected comments from the discussion threads of those two YouTube videos are included in this post.
Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/10/opinions-about-whether-sam-sanchez-and.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of Sam Sanchez, a White man who is allegedly performing the Percolator dance. SkinBone, a Black American man who is a YouTube influencer/video publisher, joins Sanchez for parts of that dance.
The discussion thread for that video presents selected differing opinions about whether Sam Sanchez or any other non-Black person should be invited to the Cookout (In this video title the word "bbq" means "The Cookout".
**** The content of this post is presented for linguistics and socio-cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Sam Sanchez and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube. -snip- On Dec. 11, 2025 Sam Sanchez published a YouTube instruction video entitled "How to hit the Percolator | @itssamsanchez". https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NSbwzFs1uWw . Here's the summary of that video: "Ready to finally learn how to Hit the Percolator the RIGHT
way? In this tutorial, I break down the steps so you can hit it clean every
time. Whether you’re learning it for a party, TikTok, or just for fun, this
video will have you dancing in minutes." -snip- I believe that there has always been more than one "right way" to do the Percolator. And even if there were only one right way to do this dance, I think that Sam Sanchez thinks much too highly of himself that he could instruct people how to do the right moves for this dance.
** Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/10/why-are-some-african-american-social.html for Part I of a three part closely related pancocojams post entitled "Why Are Some African American Social Dances With The Same Name Performed Differently By African Americans In Different United States Cities, States, or Regions (with a focus on the Percolator Dance)." That post presents opinions about why African Americans (within the same period of time and/or during later periods of time)* have the same name for social dances that are performed differently depending on what city, or part of the same city, or state/region in the United States that the dancers live/d in.
The links to the other posts in that series are given in that post.
**** PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTES Some YouTube videos of African American social dances and some commenters in discussion threads of those videos use the terms "old school" or "new school" to refer to how those dances were performed and/or are performed at the time those videos were published.
It's difficult to showcase YouTube examples of "old school" and "new school" versions of the Percolator dance. Two reasons for this difficulty is that there were/are so many ways of performing that dance and there has never been any agreement about which old style/s of dancing actually represent that dance.
With regard to the Percolator dance, "old school" means the way that dance was performed when it first was created in 1992, or the way that dance was performed in the 1990s to around 2000.
The meaning of "new school" with regard to the Percolator dance is more difficult to define since the dance styles that were "new" when that video what was filmed or taped were "old" when those videos were published on YouTube.
What those videos document is that there were (and there continues to be) multiple ways that the percolator was/is danced. Also, there was and still is a lot of disagreement about what dance moves are actually the Percolator dance.
** The lack of consensus about what constitutes the percolator's dance is reflected in most YouTube video discussion threads for videos of that dance. In almost all videos-including the two YouTube videos in this pancocojams post, some commenters praise the dancing and indicate that they are examples of the percolator while at least one commenter and usually many more commenters denounce the same dancing. Also, in most YouTube video discussion threads of the percolator some commenters write that those examples aren't the "real" percolator and/or "the right way" and or the "old school" way or ways of doing the percolator.
**** SHOWCASE VIDEOS Pancocojams Editor's Note: I'm showcasing the video that was published in 2025 first because that is the video that began the public's interest in Sam Sanchez dancing what is alleged to be the Percolator.
SHOWCASE VIDEO #1- Guy is dancing the percolator on a yacht!
@BVIRAL, March18, 2025 -snip- Here's some selected comments from the discussion thread for this YouTube video short (numbers are added for referencing purposes only).
Notice that some commenters disagree whether this dance is actually the Percolator. Also, notice that some commenters facetiously used "White male" names to refer to this dancer whose actual name is Sam Sanchez. Also, notice that some commenters used the African American saying "being invited to the cookout". Various commenters disagreed about whether Sam Sanchez should be "invited to the cookout" because he did the Percolator dance (or some other dance) on that cruise. https://youtube.com/shorts/ImNbdGo3x9w?si=UB_-ei-bSCmKQfQA
2025
1. @EryckDavis170 "Well I know who's the show stopper. The
rest of them should have stayed in their seats."
** 4. @NicoleMorgan "Is it me, or is he the only guy in the
place? ๐"
** Reply 5. @elitetrainerjay2737 "Looks like a singles night , usually always more women than
men"
** Reply 6. @SpartanWarrior4545, 2026 "why is it all women? We need more context for this video. I
wonder if he is one of the ship staff, like a booze cruise maybe."
** Reply 7. @MaryHastings-g4m, 2026 "no he's not the only man they show
some men throughout but he probably the only one that's bold enough to
get up and dance"
** 8. @antoinettelabaeka4353 " still have no clue how this Chicago sh-t* made it all the way to Fort Lauderdale FL and my sis was the best at perculating lol." -snip- *This word is fully spelled out in this discussion thread comment.
**** 2026
9. @BrianJohnson-du6pj "Bruh is killing it!!!"
** 10.@Harleyquinn9191 "Josh gone do it everytime"
** 11. @darnellusmc3362 "Must be from the mid-west with that
foot work, not to mention the song period lol. He was getting it"
** Reply 12. @loriann4365 "That's a BopMore club mix"
** 13. @weewee1948 "Shimmied his way to the cool kids side
of the room ๐บ๐ผ"
** 14. @peteantonio1601 "he been dancing for a while, he too
good,"
** 15. @SandyCandy-vu7wh "Josh left them in a room filled with
smoke baby!❤️๐ฅ๐๐๐☺️๐"
** 16. @RootinTootinShootinGeechie "LMAO!!! This is Bob from HR (video that
went viral) grandson.๐"
** 17. @catchthisbuck "Yeah he's definitely invited to the
cookout!"
** 18. @joemoe05 "In this world of chaos right now this
made me smile so hard๐❤"
** 19. @LakeshaLuckey-b3e "This Chicago for you!!"
** 20. @AldermanFredCDavis "This is like the Leo DiCaprio wedding
reception dance scene in, "Wolf of Wall Street". I could watch this on a loop.....ALL. DAY.
LONG!"
** 37. @Amariiiiie "All those TikTok videos came in handy."
** 38. @JoeC287 "This has to be The Odyssey (boat) in
Chicago"
** 39. @tye-dronetyepo35 "He Family now ๐๐คฃ๐๐๐พ"
** 40. @Dollbaby4849 "We as Super Melanin people always go
out of our way to make other people feel appreciated and when the tables are
turned they find ac way to call the police and say we interrupted their event
or either didn’t have permission to be there"
** 41. @QueenMaryMinistries "When Brad can actually dance๐"
** 42. @eleasesanchious1034 "Connor is going all the way off!!!! ๐๐๐
y’all wasn’t ready!!"
** 43. @AbstractDreamz "White chocolate for sure"
** 44. @alexbroking9252 "I don’t remember this.
We danced this differently in Jersey"
** 45. @Happygirlsmatter "I smiled so hard watching this"
** 46. @BeautifulMorning-dl6nl "I love this❤"
** 47. @ggoddess112 "Gotta b from bmore ๐"
** 48. @theflyent7106 "His girlfriend like can't take him
anywhere he always extra as hell"
** 49. @DiabolikalFollikles "You know he practiced in the mirror for
a zillion years to get it right. That’s dedication. Git it boy."
** 50. @LovelyQ86 "The thing about our peeps is we don't
care about the color of the skin all about positive respect peace and happiness
when we come together in every color to enjoy ourselves..
** 51. @BaileyHale-x2r "He dance better than everybody up in
there now what yall gotta say about that๐ฎ๐๐๐๐๐"
** 52. @MaverickMediaYT "I need y'all to act like you seen yt
people dance before. I love it every time the same way, it's just not new and
I'm tired of y'all inviting people to a fake cookout over this ๐"
** 53. @40boyzdream "My
boy got this one move"
** 54. @Butterfly5335-s5d "Lord Have Mercy, This Child Sure Enough Can Dance! .. WOW! .
Love Watching Him Move! ๐๐๐๐๐๐๐"
** 55. @Tina-qp7py "They love him. He’s a very good dancer."
** 56. @gemArsen "1 & 2 & 1 & 2 & 1 &
2. Now git it, git it, git it. Dude's making all the aunties lose their minds.
He's got moves though. I ain't gone lie."
** 57. @tressafuhs3997 "Thought he was going to rip those
shorts! ๐"
** 58. @rakeyamcclain7565 "LIL BUDDY AIN'T COME TO PLAY AROUND ๐บ"
** 59. @danniellejohnson448 "Is this the same guy that crashed
another 80th birthday party too?"
** Reply 60. @BooRadleyIII "I swear it’s the same dude ๐ญ" -snip- Click https://youtube.com/shorts/RpfO70Y06R0?si=r6bJ-tBNBAmnXPYLfor an example of that YouTube video short entitled "BROS ENERGY IS INFECTIOUS!! CRASHED AN 80 YEAR OLD BIRTHDAY
PARTY AND THEY LOVED HIM FOR IT! published by @Jeff Thrasher Speed Bag on April 20, 2026. Everyone who is shown in that party appears to be Black and that man does indeed look like Sam Sanchez although he isn't named in the few comments that are found at this time in that video's discussion thread.
** 61. @JoseVazquez-ut5gy "We need more of this! This is great!"
** 62. @MrVLC1972 "Look there’s nothing like a white dude
who can move to the beat and look like he’s been at the cookout before. ๐๐๐"
** 63. @joemoe05 "In this world of chaos right now this
made me smile so hard๐❤"
** 64. @BooRadleyIII "If there's one thing Frat Boi Steve knows how to do it’s Percolate ๐"
** 65. @teejr73 "I'm glad people know it’s time for
the percolator!"
** 66. @emeraldc.8796 "He is beyond impressive, love him.
✝️๐๐ฝ๐๐ผ๐๐ถ๐๐ต๐๐ซถ๐
~60+ yr old lady"
** 67. @JerseySoCal82 "Went from Brad to B-rad in 20 sec ๐."
** Reply 68. @joemoe05 "My boy was Bradicalized.... Now dip
baby dip....๐"
** 69. @hipsterdoggo7604 "All the aunties liking him ๐ ๐"
** 70. @lancecolbear1281 "Josh from accounting showed out!!"
** Reply 71. @wellfedosfed "yall cant percolate with josh he gon
smoke you everytime ๐ญ๐"
** Reply 72. @gp8203 "Bro cuttin UP!๐๐"
** Reply 73. @TeeCee-h1s "๐๐คฃ๐
With the only moves
he learned from
YouTube
And he is so sure of
himself"
** Reply 74. @triciatrammell713 "@TeeCee-h1sThat’s what I wanted to say
but I couldn’t get my words together ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃThen when he
tried to change his moves it wasn’t workin๐"
** Reply 75. @jaysdsworldd "you know everyone gave him crazy
nicknames after that"
** 86. @marcusfields8443 "Stop cheering him on please you guys
are making it worse. Because he going to try to battle a real one and get his
feelings hurt"
** 87. @Hookemtocookthem "Great to see everyone getting along and
enjoying life !"
** 88. @lvasquez44 "I believe this is one of the City
Cruises Chicago - Signature Brunches at Navy Pier. He looks like Sam Sanchez
and is well know for doing a good percolator! You go boy!!! ⛴️๐บ"
** 89. @allenjohnson5159 "Chicago perc and bmoe id different
orebperc is faster"
** 90. @FrecklyBangers "House Music! ❤️❤️❤️"
**** SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - We found the percolator guy from the viral video!
WGN News, Jul 3, 2024
Sam Sanchez recently went viral with his Chicago dance
moves.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eupCob7JpnM -snip- Here are selected comments from the discussion thread for this YouTube video, with numbers added for referencing purposes only.
Notice how some commenters wrote that Sam Sanchez did a Chicago version of the Percolator and other commenters wrote that the dance that he did wasn't the Percolator at all.
2024
1.@claudiasmith039 "Congrats to him but what kills me is we as black people being doing this since its being created from us. But when they take our style its acknowledge as great, unbelievable ๐"
** Reply 2. @actionanimations4879 "The news is highlighting him because he's a unicorn doing it lol"
** 3. @jamecia90s "Wow, when they do it it's a big thing but we been doing this for decades"
** 4. @kennyo673 "doing what? dancing!! if it happens frequently that when he dances he pulls crowd then whys there on one video? they only recorded it once? do you know how many drunk guys at parties do this? this isn't making sense."
** Reply 5. @actionanimations4879 "@kennyo673 Look at him. Look at the crowd. If there was a pack of lions and there was a zebra hunting within that pack of lions. You would be like that's crazy. It's not that he could dance. It's that you would never expect someone like him to be able to do any of that. It's no different than if you saw some kid in a gym built pretty thin and looked a bit geeky in a gym full of people that look incredibly muscular. Then he benches 300 pounds. That's the shock factor people have. Its just like how everyone focused on The Weatherman from American Ninja Warrior or the viral Dad that knows how to break dance in his 70's or the other News Anchor who is popular on Tik Tok for dancing. It's all about seeing someone you did not be able to expect to do something actually doing it. If he looked like a typical dancer no one would have cared. Yet he looked like he would be better at golf than actually dancing and that's why he went viral."
** Reply 6. @gemstar3824 "I think it's because black folks are expected to be naturally gifted dancers and it's highly uncommon to see a white fella that's not terrible at it."
** 7. @AnAdorableWombat1 "Y’all need to grow up! Take it as a compliment."
** Reply 8. @beardedbeast9606 "Exactly!!! I’ve been saying this for the longest. It’s highly praised and rewarded when others do it."
** Reply 9. @Mythicalniceguy "Maybe you should stop trying to segregate people. Sounds racist"
** 10. @amirahel8199 "What brings me joy is when I see these Gen Z’s and Millennials loving the music and dances from the older generations. ๐ฅฐ"
** 11. @Marqgtfoh "Ima say it .. he went to a black church"
** Reply 12. @briana14333 "Right! He describes it as “active.” I know what that’s code for๐คญ" -snip- This comment refers to Sam Sanches's comment in that television interview that when he was growing up he attended a church that was "active."
** Reply 13. @TizzTv, 2026 "@briana14333 lmfao when he said that i was like ok i feel you bro, because he paused a lil bit"
** Reply 14. @satwilliams "It shows ๐ ๐บ"
** Reply 15. @YourFriendlyLocalArsonist "He's doing the Percolator, that's a dance move from warehouse raves, not Black church."
** Reply 14. @Marqgtfoh "@SupportYourLocalArsonist Its a cookout dance in my generation ๐"
** Reply 15. @YourFriendlyLocalArsonist "@Marqgtfoh I'm glad you guys are keeping it alive. Back in the day this was something you did at illegal parties in abandoned buildings lol I'm happy to hear people have kept it relevant."
** 16. @lmars "We were doing this at school dances in Milwaukee 92/93 and on. I even seen this at a day party in Chicago last year. S/O to him though this made me smile. ๐"
** Reply 17. @RicochetMuse "Right, we been doing this for decades. Both versions of it" -snip- The words "both versions" in this comment probably refers to the two versions of the Percolator in Chicago: the Westside version and the Southside version. There are a number of purported versions on YouTube of the way people in the Westside [of Chicago] did the Percolator. I haven't come across any versions to date of how people in the Southside [of Chicago] did that dance. Please share any links to online videos of the "old school" Southside Chicago way of doing the Percolator if you are aware of any videos. Thanks!
** Reply 18. @skyofthelivingdead "Ok, want a cookie? This song hasn’t been relevant in decade, the guy is helping bring it back."
** 19. @Tha1NonlySan "Oh he definitely absolutely 100 percent always raise around black people in the Midwest, I’m from Milwaukee, we are neighbors to Chicago, and I grew up doing all these dances. He is doing the Chicago percolating & footwork FOR SURE!!" -snip- "He" in this comment refers to Sam Sanchez.
** Reply 20. @TowDow3, 2026 "so there's different versions?"
** Reply 21. @Tha1NonlySan, 2026 "@TowDow3 Yes. The Midwest does it the original way, similar to this. The east coast has a totally different version, like, a bucking hop."
** Reply 22. @TJ-0826, 2026 "@Tha1NonlySan I'm just now seeing this in my feed. I love this guy's energy and foot work. Wow. Do they do it different on West coast? Seattle Tacoma here" -snip- That comment was written in September 2026 and is the last comment in that sub-thread as of October 15, 2026.
** 23. @Jawwaad1111 "Yeah. This was Baltimore club music in the early 90s"
** Reply 24. @YourFriendlyLocalArsonist, 2025 "@Jawwaad1111 This comes from house music in Chicago a whole decade before it was in Baltimore."
** 25. @MusicloverX88 "Wasn’t phased at all by his dancing. I’m like I’ve been seeing this since the 90s?"
** 26. @rawsportstv23 "Black kids been doing this forever no news interview nothing smh"
** Reply 27. @phatplates "It's a normal every day thing for us, when they do it it's historic you have to understand"
** 28. @1Skorpia "Its the footwork for me - i was waiting for it๐คฃ๐"
** 29. @JusSaiyan-o6n ""We been doing this for decades" so has he, guys. So has he lol. It's not about who started it, nowhere in this interview did he say he invented that dance. So stop crying. It ain't that deep. He's not "taking it away" from black people. Enough already."
** 30. @WDW100Yrs "Sweet kid, not his fault since he wasn't alive in the early 90s when this hit the club scene, but he's definitely not doing the percolator lol ๐๐ we've literally been doing this for thirty years lol
But he has a great personality, obviously a love for dance, and I bet if he knew the real moves to the percolator he'd probably be good at it!! ๐"
** Reply 31. @deekid311, 2025 "He actually IS doing the percolator, the RIGHT way. Mainly the arm movements. He's doing it exactly how the originator of the song/dance did it."
** 32. @GodzillaKingOfDaMonsters "Hes doing it wrong anyway smh"
** 33. @djbhe "Just because he's non black it's a big deal. Stop it!๐"
** 34. @1Skorpia "Mexicans in the hood were jacking it up and rolling our ankles with the footwork๐"
** 35. @michellehernandez2840 "I'm from Chicago, the home of house music. I was doing the percolator as a toddler in the early 90s."
** Reply 36. @BeautifulSpirit777, 2025 "@michellehernandez2840 I’m rom Newark and we have been doing it since the 90’s as well. However this is not the actual dance๐คท๐พ♀️"
** 37. @MrBaskins2010 "It’s time for the percolator! Gotta see that video of shawty falling thru a glass table circa 2008. Sam Sanchez invited to the cookout"
** 38. @TheFreshPrinceOfSaiyans "Why does everyone in this comment section live in misery? Just enjoy positive sh-t* and keep your negativity outta here. ๐ค" -snip- *This word is fully spelled out in that discussion thread.
** Reply 39. @deekid311, 2026 "TONS of haters in the comments and it's ridiculous. From the comments about him appropriating black dances to "he's not even doing it right", I'm TIRED. Just shut up already, like- ๐ฎ๐จ"
* 40.@bodaciousandunapologetic6209 "I saw his video on TikTok too, he's invited to the cookout ๐."
** Reply 41. @queencupcake09 "You are the only one to invite him because all the others of your kind are jealous and triggered in the comments."
** 42. @carolinablue5150 "Did everything but the percolator."
** 43. @theboogieman76-g1t "Man please I was doing these dances back in the 90s. when white ppl show a little rhythm on camera it goes viral๐"
** 44. @plopez8688 "Ain't nothing new here. Can't have nothin'. There's nothing to see here, folks. ๐คฆ๐ฝ♀️๐"
** Reply 45. @queencupcake09 "Explain yourself? What was there to have?"
** Reply 46. @GuitarHalo2, 2026 "Must be a slow news day..."
**** 2025
47. @BruceGuidotti "I knew this cat was from Hammond or the south suburbs. ๐" -snip- from AI Overview “Hammond, Indiana is officially part of the Chicago metropolitan area, though its status as a direct "suburb" is often debated because it sits across state lines in Indiana.
“Hammond directly borders the southeast side of Chicago and is roughly 20 to 25 miles from downtown Chicago (the Loop), making it closer to the city center than many Illinois suburbs like Arlington Heights."... -end of quote-
** 48. @YourFriendlyLocalArsonist "This dance move originated in warehouse raves in Chicago in the mid 80's. You were late to the party."
** 49. @babybop6048 "why is he on the news for a dance blk ppl have been doing for years like it's new or something?"
** 50. @BeautifulSpirit777 "But he didn’t actually do the dance"
** 51. @brandonholloman6835 "He got skills !!!"
**** 2026
52. @PerfectlyCromulentHandle "This song takes me straight back to the roller rink in the 90s"
** 53. @bluetrailerproductions7488 "People complaining about how he'a white
doing a dance and he gets attention and yadda yadda yadda. Why does everything
always have to involve race and skin color and who got the spotlight. Let the
man live. He's spreading the joy of the lord and living his best life and happy
as possible."
** 54. @Rosie-rx1 "This is cute ๐บ๐พ & I loved
it, but …. When white (or white passing) people take something from African
American culture , other white people LOVEEEE IT… & so do black people. We
don’t hate, we’re the most inviting people ever.. even after all we’ve been
through.. & still go through from racist white people. BUT then, we get
zero recognition ๐ค & somehow STILL we
be the most hated group of people. Very mind boggling. It’s so clear that
they’re just intimidated by us, that’s all it’s ever been. So they do what they
can to try to put us down & keep us down. Also, this is nothing towards the
guy dancing… it’s towards all the hype & reactions from people"
**** This concludes Part IV of this pancocojamsseries.
“Because she's mixed-race, she doesn't identify as Black.”☠️๐ฅ
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This pancocojams post showcases a 2026 YouTube video short that shows skits about experiences that a middle school age girl who is of mixed Black & White descent has that begins with her and her classmates having to fill out a school form that specifies their race.
This post also includes information about the television series Mixed-ish as well as selected comments from this video's discussion thread.
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**** INFORMATION ABOUT THE TELEVISION SERIES MIXED ISH From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mixed-ish " Mixed-ish (stylized as mixed·ish)" is an American
single-camera sitcom created by Kenya Barris, Peter Saji and Tracee Ellis Ross
that aired on ABC from September 24, 2019, to May 18, 2021. The series is a
prequel to Black-ish, and the second series to be spun off from the parent
series after the Freeform series Grown-ish. In May 2020, the series was renewed
for a second season, which premiered on January 26, 2021. In May 2021, the
series was canceled after two seasons.
Premise
Loosely based on the early life of Dr. Rania Barris
(co-creator Kenya Barris' ex-wife),[1] Mixed-ish chronicles Rainbow Johnson's
childhood years as she recounts her experience growing up in a mixed-race
family in the 1980s. The family faces dilemmas over whether to assimilate or
stay true to themselves when Rainbow's parents move from a hippie commune to
the suburbs in 1985.[2]"...
**** SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD OF THIS VIDEO SHORT
(with numbers added for referencing purposes only).
All of these comments are from September 27-October 1, 2026
**** DISCLAIMER: This compilation documents a few comments from this video's discussion thread.
These quotes are the commenters' opinions on this subject and their comments may not agree with my opinions.
1. @isam_rulez270 "What if an Indian kid comes along tf are they supposed to
put down"
** Reply 2. @jojoone1099 "It must be an older movie. They didn't have the Hispanic
options."
** Reply 3. @Art_or_not "@jojoone1099
Indians aren't Hispanic ๐ญ, at best it's Asian
Anyways, I hate how this movie showed that she was wrong,
when in her time, Hispanic/Indian ppl where considered black, Asians &
other peach colored ppl where white.
It depended on skin color, which is racism. It's so stupid
how no one else in the show realized that ๐ญ.
Why does she have to be black, bc she looks black? I hated
when everyone called me black, but I was Hispanic, like FULLY."
** Reply 4. @pinktaco646 "@jojoone1099 It's not a movie its a show called
"Mixed-ish"
** Reply 5. @BlackBroadwayLady "@jojoone1099 This
is an episode of Mixedish, which was a short-lived sequel to Blackish. Mixedish
took place in the 1980s"
** 7. @CJGmira27 "People can say they are mixed if they want and that may be
true. But almost everyone else will see them as a black person."
** 8. @shadesteel9247 "Mixed people have the right to acknowledge both their races
and cultures, just because they look more like one doesn't mean they can't
acknowledge the other."
** Reply 11. @uceemeforeal8185 "@shadesteel9247 [t]he comment wasn’t about whether they have
the right to acknowledge their mixed heritage.
It was about how society chooses for them and in many cases no matter
how hard they stand in their true identity the powers that be will scoff at,
ignore or abuse them even worse if not try to use their proximity to whiteness
as social validation.
** Reply 12. @deshagreely4238 "@shadesteel9247 they can acknowledge but the world won't ๐"
** 13. @angneatb6036 "@shadesteel9247 that's obvious, but unfortunately it's
not the world view. That's why parents should prepare their kids, while acknowledging that they are 100%
perfect the way they are."
** 14. @Miss-007-X "That's because racial classifications come from colonizing
white people who have forced their ideals onto everyone else. We don't have to
ignore biology to appease white people. We are allowed to have our own thoughts
now."
** Reply 15.@49jubilee "@Miss-007-X Some whites could have black presenting grandparents
** Reply 16. @Miss-007-X " @49jubilee what's
your point?"
** Reply 17.@Jaenotearz "@49jubilee and?
Grandparents not parents authorization they should say bloodline.๐"
** Reply 18. @auroraborealis6009 "@Miss-007-X This is where world history comes in handy.
My dad was an Anglo Indian raised both in India and the
UK. He met and married my American mom
in London where she worked for the State Department.
His mother was a nurse on hospital ships in WWI. My old
photos show the medical staff and patients were all brown. The officers were white. My grandfather was an officer.
The Europeans who went to India to seek their fortunes often
went home to find European wives. The
higher ups encouraged them to marry local women which led to the Anglo (or
Euro) Indians. Neither white nor brown
and not really accepted by either.
Basically created for the comfort and convenience of the British Empire.
No doubt this occurred in many places throughout
history. There are Europeans with
genetic ties to Ghengis Khan for example.
Nothing is that new."
** Reply 19.@asmawiaro7869 "@auroraborealis6009
I think the most important thing is to accept our heritage ( whether one
or more "heritage"). My mother is mixed and my father is also mixed.
The irony, my father's father (aka my grandfather ) is already mixed. Hence I
have 5 "nations" (2 maternal side + 3 paternal side). However,
physically or externally I look Asian. So, I know which box to tick in whatever
form I need to fill when applying for something."
** Reply 20. @auroraborealis6009 "@asmawiaro7869 I
think those boxes aren’t worth the paper they’re written on. You should be proud of all the ancestors and
experiences that make you an individual because each one matters.
Eventually everyone on the planet will be one race. Human."
** Reply 21.@GodBlessAmerica55 "@Miss-007-X
Even though you want to insult and blame "white"
people, it's very likely some of your ancestors were white."
** Reply 22. @Miss-007-X "@GodBlessAmerica55
it's not about insulting "white" people, I'm stating a
historical fact. It was "white" people who created the social
construct of race and them who indoctrinated people with the "one drop
rule". Which still affects people today. You do know that I could have
white ancestry due to non-consensual interactions that took place in abundance
before, during, and after enslavement right? So what is your point in
mentioning that I could have white ancestry??"
** Reply 23. @theapavlou3030 "@BronzeSista that word "biracial" is so wrong.
We say mixed, not bi-anything"
** 24. @AminaCaster "That's what I tell people all the time.im black and white
and I'm very proud of the black blood
that runs through my veins.Im happy the way GOD made me."
** Reply 25. @jaitsadi-gee "@AminaCaster Suppose
you are African, Asian, Latino, and Indigenous (American), what would you say?
Still "mixed," but is it any non-family member's business, as long as
the people who matter know?
Black and white is NOT the only mix that matters and, if you
look deeper, you'll possibly find that YOUR mix runs deeper."
** Reply 26. @AminaCaster "@jaitsadi-gee Yes I agree with you ๐ฏ"
** 27. @grahambrown5739 "Tragic mixed narratives really can be so exhausting."
** Reply 31. @EarthWiser "Definitely not as tragic as black American narratives though๐ค"
** Reply 32. @ShoNuff_Ali "@EarthWisertragic nonetheless. But why compare?"
** 33. @jorollenola8320 "I'm shocked that so many people forget that the One Drop
Rule is still in effect in this country."
** 34. @JP2025-f1s "I am a black woman with a white husband. We have two
beautiful sons. We know this situation. My sons embrace both sides and focus on
living their lives not their colour.
Unfortunately racism is real and experience it everywhere we go..
But we notice it, ignore it and keep it
moving๐๐"
** 35. @cherylseebreth328 "If I am mixed/biracial, that is whatI am.I recognize my White mother.Did
she disappear from the equation because my Dad is Black.I will NEVER deny my mother's DNA.I AM MIXED.What is wrong with being mixed?I
will not allow any Eurocentristto tell
me who I am because it is they who decided that one ounce of Black makes you
Black even if you look more White than Black (not in my case ๐๐๐).Nothing is simply black or white in this
world.There is a whole lot of
gray.How do the Eurocentrists describe
a Chinese and Caucasion mix, or Japanese and East Indian mix?"
** Reply 36. @whitewolf7664 "She wasn't profiled; she was asked to identify herself. The
fact that she couldn't is racism.
She claimed she was both black and white, so why didn't she
mark both boxes? Instead, she tried to add a box.
But in the end if she was on the phone, standing in a crowd
of people trying to identify herself to someone who was looking at the crowd,
that is what she should have marked down. Her black features are more dominant
than her white features; that is a fact.
If you are too ashamed to identify yourself how can others.
You can't defeat racism with racism."
**. 37.@richardfrancois8219 "She's mixed and should be proud of herself"
** Reply 38.@angneatb6036 "It's not about pride. She should be proud of both, but she
will be seen as Black or Hispanic ❤️"
** Reply 39.@jaggg.3821 " @angneatb6036 in another episode her little brother told
everybody He was Mexican because he was sick and tired of being asked What Are
You?"
** 40. @MyHappyOhm "Us bi/multi racial people are proud of who we are...we also
know that the world is going use our dominant trait as a baseline for
treatment. Don't play dumb and don't act like bi/multi racial people aren't
forced into boxes we never asked for๐๐"
** 41. @Aurora-Butterfly-1991 "Same here. White dad. Black mom. Dad had to stand up for my mom, a lot. Racism is wild in this country."
** 42. @Lithiel "As a mix myself, it really depends on who I’m hanging out
with.
I’m pale enough I can be white but when I’m actually hanging
out with other white people, they know that I’m not one of them so I suddenly
become exotic, or mixed.
But when I’m with people that are darker skinned or the
other Black people I’m suddenly white only.
You really can’t win in this argument. All you can do is
except who you are for yourself and just let everything pass over you as you
navigate between how different people in the world view you."
** 43. @TallPixi "I'm Creole and have considered myself black. In my eyes my
parents are black even when the people around us said they look white. One of
my sisters could've passed as white but even the thought upset her."
** 44. @Mekashere "My family is multiracial on both sides, but my dad’s crew
has the dark skin while my mom’s side is mostly light skinned damn. My great
grandmother passed for white in her young years to be in the path of
opportunity when it came to her children. It’s sad, but there’s still a color
separation within my family on both sides, and no one wants to be identified as
mixed even though we are. Idk why this is still a thing all these years later,
but we gotta remember that most Black Americans are not fully Black. It’s
impossible at this point, but oh well"
** 45. @Jinshu8392 "I’m a mixed kid and everyone where i live refer to us as
mixed but im also black"
** 46. @sakilynn "As a mixed woman, all true.
Before, it was "Black", "White", or
"Other"; it was years before "Other" was replaced by
everything else, and "Multiple Race". People thought I was either
White or Hispanic/Latina because my skin tone was so well blended (now I just
look White), and I still face microagressions and milder racism."
** 47.@bestofmylovewhoahwhoah3239 "So many ppl want mixed ppl to see only black but this clip shows the truth that mixed
children overwhelming, frequently face this kind of struggle which black
children with both black parents never face. Mixed and black are not the
same... and that is okay."
** 48. @natashaswain7478 "I’m black but because I have light skin and my hair looks
like Rainbow’s or kinda like Tracey Ellis Ross hair. People think I
mixed. I’m not mixed at all. I have two black parents. I have four black
grandparents. Great grandparents are black. I just came out light skin but I am
not mixed! Black people always ask me what am I mixed with nothing!"
** 49. @Alinktothecats "I mixed myself white father black and Asian mother.
I just tell myself I'm mixed but I don't know why people are
offended that she's saying she's mixed cuz she is I'm guessing it's the I'm not
black part that probably offends people."
** 50. @Muiyoke1961 "My partner of 10 years was mixed (African American and
Lebanese. He told me growing up he wasn't considered black enough or white
enough to be accepted by either group."
** 51. @Justusisnotjustice2026 "I know lots of mixed people who are proud but it’s mostly
about the aesthetics of being mixed not because of any cultural history of
accomplishments. They usually don’t know those parts. ๐
Initially, this is their parent’s job."
** 52. @FoxBD "My mixed friends usually just checked the multiple boxes
that they were & no one ever said a thing after they said it's them &
that the story I tell when I remind someone check all that apply. "
** Reply 53. @rainmirron "This show is placed in the 80s. In the U.S., there was no
multiple choice for race until the 90s-early 00s"
** Reply 54. @prehistoricorchid3455 "That's why I always did. I be checking like 4 boxes lol"
** Reply 55. @chacha.charmante "But why you have to put your ethnicity on a formuler on the
first place? I think it's kinda weird. I don't know, I m not american so can
someone explain this to me."
** Reply 56. @prehistoricorchid3455 "@chacha.charmante
it's to dictate funding. I remember doing it in like 11th grade. Asked
what it was for and it basically was a "what type of people are in the
school" because I was mixed I questioned what would get the school more
money, and my teacher said (basically) black because it ups the diversity which
looks better"
** Reply 57. @chacha.charmante "@prehistoricorchid3455 thanks for explaining. As an
Belgian I got just that type of formular once and it was for a survey of an
organization or smth. I don't even remember what it was about, but I think it
was general knowledge. And we never got to know our scores. And at the end I
had to put my nationality, the nationality of my parents and their studiy level
and I thought it was weird. Both of my parents went to the univ and my father
is a lawyer and my mom a sociologist. And we are Belgians with congolese roots."
** Reply 58. @resaHall-m2v "@prehistoricorchid3455
yeah it is supposed to make businesses act more fairly considering they
use to exclude anyone with the wrong skin"
** Reply 59. @lovelyrose2989 @chacha.charmante isn't Belgium like 95% white? They
wouldn't need a form
** Reply 60. @chacha.charmante "@lovelyrose2989 euh no not really. But yes there is less
diversity than in the US. But if you take brussels our capital, Brussels is the
city with the most different nationalities in the world. So even if they are
not Belgian on paper there is still a lot of diversity. And even for those with
the nationality, in brussels 40 % of the population is Belgian from roots (so
white people) and the 60 other procent are from immigrant background, with at
1st french people, 2nd italian (so both spots white people )and 3rd marocan.
But of course there is a lot of diversity and we have brusselians from a lot of
back grounds of the whole world. But even if we leave brussels who is the
capital and a small area compare to the rest. In belgium we have a lot of
people from Turkish, Marrocan and Congolese background over all, because of
obvious historical reasons. So 95 % seems to me a too high amount, I ll rather
say something like 75 % of the population is white."
** Reply 61.@BronzeSista "@chacha.charmante In America Latinos are classified as
White to increase the white population on paper. These Latinos are not treated as white
Europeans"
** Reply 62. @milouagudelo106 "That’s a good one. I am mixed born in the Caribbean and I am
glad I didn’t have to deal with sh-t* like this like in the USA. But if I have
to check boxes I will try this one. My granny is Asian so I would have to check
3 boxes….black, white and Asian ๐๐๐๐"
** Reply 63.@starman2671 "on most forms it says CHOOSE one or more,
so I do."
** Reply 64. @49jubilee "It depends on how they present
If their hair is straight..it's odd"
** Reply 65 @auroraborealis6009 "Now they do have boxes with “don’t want to say” or“mixed.”Depending on that day I might select those.If 10% Indian DNA counts as mixed race, I
sometimes think it’s funny because no one would ever guess.I’m a bit of a smart$$s."
** 66. @savoy5639 "I have Native American black and white. No
matter what box I check, I'm always gonna be considered black. That's what's
called Black Americans. We are a mixture of all races"
** 67. @simcity17164 "This type of thing
pisses me off, because if you say you're mixed, some black folk take offense by
you not wanting to identify as black. But if you do identify as black, they're
also quick to remind you that you're half white and not fully black. Damned if
you do, damned if you don't"
** 68.@tay2944 "Most black Americans have at least 20% European DNA, but
nobody would consider them mixed because they look phenotypically black."
** Reply "69.@TheresaHall-m2v "Besides race only matters to doctors and family trees.
Otherwise it is the color of your skin that they go by"
** 70.@dianac846 "Why didn't she check both boxes? She is both"
** Reply 71. @Sir-i3r "They wouldnt let her"
** Reply 72. @OyayoTheStorm "Paperwork back then didn't have biracial options. It only
screens one bubble"
** Reply 73. @noneyourbiz "Question remains, why the intense push to ensure the White
side is recognised too? Is there a bit of a colourism dynamic going on there?
Meghan Markle expressed a similar view as a kid which sounded harmless, until
her Netflix series where she let slip that she was surprised to actually be
treated like a Black person. This insistence isn’t always just a harmless
identity assertion."
** Reply 74. @dianac846 "@noneyourbizok so why the intense push to ensure the black
side is recognized?"
** Reply 75. @OyayoTheStorm "Yeah .. I remember a similar issue, and my biracial friend's
white father and white stepmother came to pick us all up. The stepmother got
upset at how quickly the security guard changed his tune when white adults
showed up, and stayed until Loss Prevention management showed up. The guard was
suspended, and she told us in the car that people like that don't get real
consequences, and we have to be relentless about our rights Only when we have
allies there to protect us. It was a scary lesson, in the 90s, just shy of the
LA riots, but we learned that hate didn't and doesn't change until people see
us equally"
** 76. @karlenejohnson8588 "She's right. I've always had a concern with this. Why should
she identify as just one thing? She's mixed. Being mixed doesn't mean you're
denying your black side, it just means you're identifying exactly who you are."
** 77.@stargazer_stacey7415 "I don’t really like how she’s not really being allowed to
identify as mixed (biracial). We have taught my daughter that she is both black
AND white. I’ve even taught her to select both on any kind of consensus forms.
She knows that the world sees her as black but I’ve always felt it’s important
for her to recognize both sides of her heritage. I can’t condone making her
“choose”."
** 78.@lynnevenables7193 "Mixed kids have an extra layer of struggle."
** 79.@devilmecare "Many little children are confused when they see a person
with brown/melenated skin that say they're black. If there is a one drop rule
then there are a whole lot of people passing as caucasian."
** 80.@chingling8177 "I feel her as a mixed person all you want to do is honor
both sides of yourself"
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**** This pancocojams post provides definitions and commentary about the term "African booty".
This post also presents various text (word only) examples of children's recreational rhymes "Mailman Mailman Do Your Duty" and "Policeman Policeman Do Your Duty"/"Policelady Policelady Do Your Duty" that include the term "African booty". Some video examples of these rhymes are also showcased in this pancocojams post.
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**** DEFINITION AND USE OF THE PHRASE "AFRICAN BOOTY" [Revised October 7, 2026] The word "booty"
"Booty" is an African American Vernacular English word that means "a big butt", especially a woman's big butt". "Booty" is commonly used in African American Vernacular English and can have neutral, positive, or negative connotations.
The word "booty" was probably introduced to non-African Americans by K C & Sunshine Band's 1976 hit R&B record "Shake Your Booty".
The phrase "shake your booty" may be used in a few African American hand clap rhymes or cheers, but those words don't appear to be used that often in African American or American children's rhymes except for the "Mailman, Mailman", "Policeman Policeman" rhymes..
I believe that most African American adults know what the word "booty" and the term "African booty" mean, but it's likely that both of those terms are much less well known among non-Black Americans
Depending on their age, I believe that it's likely that some African American children don't know what "African booty" means. I think that children (usually girls) regardless of their race/ethnicity who chant "Mailman Mailman" ("Policeman Policeman)" rhymes which include the phrase "African booty" do so from rote memory without any thought about what that phrase means.
the reason that many Americans (and probably many people in some other nations outside of Africa) have been informally socialized to believe that all African women naturally have big butts is because of White racism. Examples of that racism was the horrendous treatment of South African Sarah Baartman and other women who had big, protruding butts and were objectified because of that in "freak shows" in England and elsewhere. Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/10/trumps-remarks-about-black-rapper-nicki.html for the 2026 pancocojams post entitled "Trump's Remarks About Black Rapper Nicki Minaj's "Beautiful Ass" & Revisiting My Post About The Words "African Booty" In Children's Rhymes".
**** The word "booty" has also been spelled "bootie", "boodie", "boody", and (much less often) "booti".
"The "Booty Call" is the name of an African American (soul) trail ride line dance. "The Booty Call" may have originally been spelled "The Boodie Call". In 2026 the name of that dance is also given as "The Booti Call". That line dance was/is performed to the 1994 R&B track "Booty Call" by Blackstreet. Versions of "The Booty Call" line dance are still performed in 2026. There's no known choreographer, but its routine was performed since that record's release, beginning in the Southern region of the United States before spreading nationwide in the late 1990s.
"The Boodie Bounce" (sometimes spelled "The Bootie Bounce") is the name of another African American (soul) line dance. The line dance record "The Boodie Bounce" was recorded in 2002 by 71 North. That rap group (also known as the 71 North Boyz) was formed in Cleveland, Ohio, in the late 1990s by Big Mucci (born Mark Wynn). Big Mucci has become very well known for recording and choreographing a number of African American urban line dances, including "The Cleveland Shuffle" and The Bikers Shuffle". The "Boodie Bounce" line dance is still performed in 2026.
**** The term "African booty" In African American Vernacular English term "African booty" means "a really big butt". While males can be said to have an "African booty", that term is usually reserved as a descriptor for teenage girls and women.
The term "African booty" isn't a commonly used African American Vernacular English term. Those words are only found in these children's rhymes as a replacement for the words "American beauty" or in the highly negative term "African booty scratcher". ("African booty scratcher" was used in the mid to late 20th century much more than it is currently used by some African Americans who were directly insulting emigrants from continental Africa.)
In the context of children's recreational rhymes, people (usually girls ages 6-12 years) who are chanting "Policeman Policeman Do Your Duty" and similar rhymes while playing long jump rope are complimenting the person who is jumping in the middle of the rope. I don't believe that African Americans have ever given any negative connotations to the term "African booty" in these children's rhymes or elsewhere.
That said, I believe that most children who say the words "African booty" as part of the rhyme that they are chanting do so from rote memory i.e. they don't give any thought to the meaning of the words that they are chanting. However, children who know the African American Vernacular English meaning of the words "African booty" would consider that descriptor to be a compliment because in the United States and in other Western nations it's considered preferable for a teenage girl or a woman to have a big butt rather than a small butt or a flat butt.
To emphasize this point, the term "African booty" doesn't appear to be commonly used in American English. It's much more likely for contemporary African Americans (and other Americans regardless of their race/ethnicity) to say that someone (particularly a woman) has "a big butt" or "a big booty" (with the word "butt" used more often than the word "booty")." -end of that portion of that 2026 "African booty" pancocojams post [revised from the 2011 pancocojams post.]
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The use of African booty in children's recreational rhymes
The term "African booty" in children's recreational rhymes "Mailman Mailman" (also given as "Policeman Policeman" replaces the words "Miss American beauty". Notice that the words "beauty" and the word "booty" rhyme or nearly rhyme with the word "duty" in the two line verses of those rhymes. (i.e. "Mailman Mailman do your duty".)
The phrase "African booty" is found in some examples of contemporary (usually post 1970s*) versions of the American children's playground rhyme family "Mailman Mailman (do your duty)". Those rhymes are also known as "Policeman Policeman (do your duty)" or similar titles. In that sub-set of that family of jump rope or hand clap rhymes, the line "Mailman mailman do your duty" is followed by the line "Here comes a lady with an African booty".
I can't recall ever coming across any use of the words "African booty" in any other hand clap rhyme or cheer other "Mailman Mailman Do You Duty" or the similarly titled rhymes "Policeman Policeman". Policelady Policelady, or "Postman Postman" .
Note below a comment from Anonymous, July 10, 2018 that she or he recalls children jumping rope "in the 1960s in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood" singing "African booty" in a jump rope song. This is the earliest reference that I've come across of the term "African booty" being found in a children's rhyme.
Examples of "Postman Postman Do Your Duty" rhymes without the "African booty" term are included in the now classic 1959 collection of mostly United Kingdom children's rhymes The Lore and Language of Schoolchildren by Iona & Peter Opie. Here's an excerpt about the "Mailman Mailman" rhyme from that book:
"In all of Britain the young have sent our Valentines {Valentine cards are definitely in fashion again}, and they have written anonymous verses, In Aberdeen and elsewhere in Scotland the boy follow the old convention of putting verse on the envelopes, addressed to the post man.
Postman, Postman, do your duty Take this to my loving beauty. Postie, Postie, don't delay, Do the rhumba all the way" (Opie, Lore & Language, p. 236)"
Instead of the phrase "my loving beauty", I believe that the usual pre-1970s American versions of this rhyme included the phrase "an American beauty" or "Miss American beauty".
I've also found two online examples of the use of the term "African beauty" in "Mailman Mailman" rhymes. [Read Example #7 and #8 below]. "African beauty" may be a folk etymology substitution for "African booty". However, given the often negative attitudes about Black physical appearance in mainstream United States and other Westernized cultures, it would be significant if "African beauty" were purposely used in these children's rhymes.
From my online research, it appears that some children continue to use the phrase "American beauty" as the rhyming line to "do your duty", while other children use the phrase "African booty". While it's probable that most of those persons who chant "here's come a lady with an African booty" are Black, there's evidence that that line has crossed over to non-Black persons.
Various YouTube videos document the fact that a number of non-Black children routinely chant the "African booty" phrase in "Mailman Mailman Do Your Duty" handclap rhymes. Some commenters in those videos' discussion threads* and in some other online sites also have shared examples of "Mailman Mailman" rhymes with the term "African booty". These bloggers and these children featured on YouTube videos appear to use "African booty" as a matter of course. That phrase doesn't appear to have any positive or negative connotations for them
When YouTube disabled that comment feature, they deleting the comments that had been published in those video's discussion thread. Unfortunately, that action erased a treasure trove of material for folklorists and meant the end of that rich resource of children's recreational rhymes and cheers from that time on. Thankfully, prior to knowing about that impending action, I had copied some comments from some of those discussion threads before Feb. 2018. Also, thankfully, YouTube discussion threads about children's recreational rhymes that feature adults are still active, and (for some reason) a few discussion threads that feature children are still active. -end of note about comment feature being disabled-
**** MY MEMORIES OF THE POLICEMAN POLICEMAN RHYME AND MY DAUGHTER'S USE OF THE TERM "AFRICAN BOOTY" IN POLICE LADY" RHYMES Here's the version of the very similar rhyme "Policeman, Policeman" that I recall from my childhood in the mid 1950s, Atlantic City, New Jersey (African American girls, group jump rope)
Policeman, Policeman, Do your duty. Here comes [insert the jumper's name or nickname] an American beauty. She can wiggle. She can wobble She can do the flip [later the word 'twist' replaced the word 'flip'] But I betcha five dollars she can't do this: Lady on one foot, one foot, one foot, turn all around. [jump on 1 foot and turn around] Lady on two foot, two foot, two foot Touch the ground.[jump on 2 feet and touch the ground] Lady of three foot, three foot, three foot [jump on 2 feet with one hand on the ground] Lady on two feet say your prayers. [jump on 2 feet while folding your hands like you are praying] Lady on four foot, four foot, four foot [jump on 2 feet while placing both hands on the ground] [Now] Go to bed. [jump out of the rope] -snip- In the mid 1980s Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, my daughter and her girlfriends jumped rope while chanting a version of the "Policeman Policeman" rhyme that is very similar to the one that I recall from my childhood. However, the version that my daughter & her friends chanted reflects two significant societal changes: the inclusion of women in the police force, and the attitude that having an "African booty" was a good thing. Instead of "policeman", the girls chanted "Police lady Police lady do your duty".
In the early 2000s, my daughter - an elementary school teacher - shared with me an experience she had while taking her first grade class to a nearby public park. All of the students in her class were African American. A White man and his pre-school (White) daughter happened to be visiting that same park. Some of the girls in her classroom who were turning the ends of the jump rope sang the "Police Lady Police Lady" rhyme which included the line "here comes a lady with an African booty". (I'm not sure if the girls in her classroom knew that version before she sang it or not.) The White man asked could his daughter and he join the jump rope game, and before long he and his daughter were singing the "here comes a lady with an African booty" line. That's just one example of how versions of rhymes get passed on from one generation to another, and from one racial population to another.
**** THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN "AFRICAN BOOTY" AND "AFRICAN BOOTY SCRATCHER" It should be noted that the phrase "African booty" is not a taunt like the similar phrase "African booty scratcher".
I believe that the referent "African booty stratcher" pre-dates the use of "African booty" in these children's rhymes. Unlike "African booty" [in those rhymes], "African booty stratcher" is definitely racist as it equates Black people (and particularly Black Africans) to monkeys or and apes. Often the person being taunted by that phrase is an immigrant from Africa, and often the person doing the taunting is an African American.
I believe that the "African booty" in the "Mailman Mailman" rhymes isn't an insult. Saying that a female has an "African booty" might even be considered a compliment since teenage females and adult females regardless of race/ethnicity like to have big butts. That said, having an "African booty" wasn't always considered a compliment, and it's probably wisest to refrain from using that phrase as a description of any female, particularly any Black female.
**** THE HISTORY OF NEGATIVELY DESCRIBING BLACK FEMALES WITH A BIG BUTT The stereotype of Black women having big butts was heavily influenced by, if not originated from the gross, racist mistreatment in the early 19th century of the South African woman Sarah Baartman and another South African woman. In 1810, Sarah Baartman and the other African woman were taken from South Africa and exhibited in Great Britain and elsewhere in Europe as a freak of nature because of their "big butts". These women were labeled "the Hottentot Venus”. Upon her death until 2003, a replication of Baartman's body which emphasized her large protruding butt was featured in a French museum. Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Baartman for information about Sarah Baartman.
Among African Americans, a female with a "Bertha Butt" means a female (usually a Black female) with a large, protruding butt. I believe that phrase was used prior to the Jimmy Castor songs. My theory is that the origin of "Bertha Butt" was the 1947 American prison Blues song "O Berta". That song has a line "I call Berta, but she didn't answer me". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/06/o-berta-prison-blues.html for a pancocojams blog post about that song.
**** PERFORMANCE ACTIVITIES FOR THE RHYME "MAILMAN MAILMAN" As mentioned above, the "Mailman Mailman" (do your duty) rhymes used to be chanted while jumping rope. However, as is the case with most jump rope rhymes, by at least the 1960s, in the United States at least, partner or three or four person handclapping was the preferred performance activity for those rhymes.
As documented by several YouTube videos and their viewer comment threads, the phrase "African booty" continues to be chanted by girls -regardless of race- as either a handclap rhyme, or a movement rhyme without accompanying handclap activities. With either of those performance activities, the girls use mimicking motions on cue- they shake their balled up fists in front of them when saying pom poms (in imitation of cheerleaders holding pom poms); they shake their hips from side to side as was done to the once popular "twist" dance; and with each rendition of the rhyme, they move their feet farther and farther apart either to do a split, or to see which girl falls down first. In the later case, the last girl who remains standing is the winner.
To date, I've not seen any off-line or online evidence on YouTube or elsewher that the "Mailman Mailman" ("Policeman Policeman") rhymes with or without the "African booty" phrase are still being used as a jump rope chant. This isn't surprising since chanting while jumping rope appears to be rarely done in the United States since at least the 1990s.
**** FEATURED RHYMES [These examples of "Mailman Mailman" ("Policeman Policeman") rhymes which include the phrase "African booty scratcher" are presented in no particular order.]
Example #1 mailman mailman do your duty here comes a lady with an african booty she can do the pom pom she can do the twist most of all she likes to kiss -Guest, http://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=4300 Children's Street Songs; 12/2/2004
** Example #2 mail man mail man do ur duty hear comes a lady with an African booty she can do the pom pom she can do the splits but best of all she can kiss kiss kiss with her read hott lips -socalgal89 at June 16, 2005 http://blog.oftheoctopuses.com/000518.php [This blog is no longer viable]
** Example #3 Mailman mailman do your duty here comes a lady with an African booty she can do the pom poms she can do the twist but most of all she can kiss kiss kiss -celinababe29; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3G7c6Fj_WM; 6/24/2009
[This video is embedded below.]
** Example #4 Mailman mailman do your duty here comes a lady with an African booty she can do the pom poms she can do the twist but most of all she can kiss kiss kiss With her big red lips k.i.ss.i.n.g -KellyJulia12 ; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgr8ApS4LWI&feature=related; 7/11/2010
[This video is embedded below.]
**** Example #5 Mailman mailman do your duty here comes a lady with an African booty she can do the pom poms she can do the twist but I betcha five dollars she can’t do this k-i-s-s-i-n-g -loserweirdo311; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9Gs7-MQyrE; 8/15/2009
** Example #6 Mailman, mailman do your duty. Here comes a lady with an African booty. She can do the pom-poms, she can do the splits, I bet you $5 she can't do this:
(Take your feet, and go back and forth, pointing your toes out, then your heels out, then toes, then heels.... As you're doing it, your feet are moving out, so you're getting closer to the ground.) [Thanks to Ciara A.]; http://www.beachnet.com/~jeanettem/chants.html#MAILMAN; retrieved 12/28/2011 -snip- Here are two examples from different YouTube viewer comment threads which gives the phrase as "African beauty" instead of "African booty":
** Example #8 I learned it like 'Mail man mail man do your duty. I got a date with an African beauty. She can do the pom-pom, she can do the splits, most of all she can kiss kiss kiss. K-I-S-S ( for each letter you go like if your doing the splits ) -livetolove97; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgr8ApS4LWI&feature=related; October 2011
**** Here are two examples of "Mailman Mailman" rhymes that include the term "big fat booty" which I think is an equivalent term for "African booty": Example #9 (fragment) Mailman, mailman do your duty here comes the lady w/the big fat booty... -Classy_Diva5 (African American female, Alpha Kappa Alpha, Inc sorority, Bay Area, California); http://www.greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=4123; 12/28/2000
** Example #10 Mail man mail man do your duty Here comes a lady with a With a big fat booty she can do the pom pom she can do the twist but most of all she can blow you a kiss Uggh! -froggielover737; http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=80uKGksoFTA&feature=related; 1/22/2007
**** FEATURED VIDEOS Example #1: Mailman, Mailman
Uploaded by celinababe29 on Jun 24, 2009
My little sister and her cousin playing Mailman, Mailman after i taught them an hour earlier. -snip- These girls are chanting "with an African booty".
** Example #2: mailman mailman game
Uploaded by KellyJulia12 on Jul 11, 2010
Weird, huh? -snip- These White girls are chanting "with an African booty". The fact that they are smiling and shaking their own hips implies to me that "African booty" isn't an insult.
** Example #3: Mailman mailman do your duty
glancei, Published on Sep 26, 2015
Hand game- mailman mailman do your duty -snip- This video replaces one that is no longer available.
Notice that these two Black girls (presumably from the United States) chant "American beauty", which documents that not all African American girls chanted "African booty" when they performed this jump rope game.
**** Example #4: Mail man do your duty
delcia50, Published on Apr 19, 2013 Este video se subi� de un tel�fono Android. -snip- The girl in this video says "African booty". Note that she doesn't appear to be African American, suggesting that non-African Americans also chant the term "African booty" as a part of this rhyme.
**** COMMENTS FROM THE PANCOCOJAMS POST THAT WAS FIRST PUBLISHED IN 2011
I appreciate your comment. It's good to hear from folks who read these posts.
My sense is that as the world gets more connected, things that Americans take for granted -such as that particular meaning of the word "booty"-may be unfamiliar to non-Americans. Also, some Americans might not be familiar with the term "African booty".
And it seems to me that "African booty" is considered a complimentary term is meaningful, in and of itself.
“The stereotype of Black women having big butts was heavily influenced by, if not originated from the gross, racist mistreatment in the early 19th century of the South African woman Sarah Baartman and another South African woman. In 1810, Sarah Baartman and the other African woman were taken from South Africa and exhibited in Great Britain and elsewhere in Europe as a freak of nature because of their ‘big butts.’”
I learned of Sarah Baartman several years ago. That was a very tragic story and it was a disgrace how she was treated both during her life and after her death. So I understand there being some sensitivity due to historical baggage for a woman having a large posterior, particularly women of African descent.
“In the phrase ‘African booty’, the word ‘African’ is evidence of the widely held, although erroneous belief that all women of African descent have big butts. As is the case with a lot of African American vernacular, while the phrase ‘African booty’ originated with Black Americans, it has also been used by non-Black Americans….Saying that a female has an ‘African booty’ might even be considered a compliment since teenage females and adult females regardless of race/ethnicity like to have big butts.”
I am a white American man and I am familiar with the phrase. In today’s context, I think of a woman having an “African booty” as a compliment, because I think it is a very desirable feminine trait. I am aware that not all African-descended women have that trait, but many do, including many “Latinas” and others who have partial African heritage. This would likely apply to Jennifer Lopez. I am actually delighted that more people today acknowledge that many of these “non black” celebrities, like Jennifer Lopez (supposedly), have African ancestry.
If the statement that someone [particularly a female] has an "African booty" is a compliment then I suppose that indicates some progress has been made away from the notion that anything "African" is bad [not good]. But we [the citizens of the world] have a very long way to go before most Black African traits-such as dark skin color, physical features, and very curly (i.e. nappy) hair- are considered something that is neither bad nor good but "just is" and Nordic White features are considered the same way.
Azizi PowellJuly 10, 2018 at 6:36 AM I just re-read the comment that was posted by December 19, 2013 at 4:10 PM.
"I am aware that not all African-descended women have that trait, but many do, including many “Latinas” and others who have partial African heritage. This would likely apply to Jennifer Lopez. I am actually delighted that more people today acknowledge that many of these “non black” celebrities, like Jennifer Lopez (supposedly), have African ancestry."
I want to clarify a point that you wrote:
I believe that saying that when Black children say [in the context of a jump rope rhyme or otherwise] that some female who isn't Black has "an African booty" doesn't mean that they think that that person actually has some African ancestry. Instead, I think it means that that female has a big butt like an African female.
In contrast, I recall that while "African booty" was a compliment that was directed to females, the term "Bertha butt" was a teasing insult that was directed to females or males. A person who had a Bertha Butt has a butt that protrudes.
Thanks for sharing that information, John, New York.
Although I've never heard or read of "Big Bertha" being used in reference to a female, its use as an insult would conform with my recollection/knowledge of "Bertha butt".
That said, in some comments in t he Jimmy Castor Bertha Butt Boogie discussion thread whose link I gave immediately before your comment, a few commenters write that husbands call their wife "Bertha Butt" as a compliment for their wife's large behind (ass/butt).
The Black girls who I observed chanting this rhyme-including my daughter- in the 1980s and since consider/ed "African booty" to be a big bum to use your terminology. However, that descriptor was considered a compliment.
Growing up in the 1960s in Chicago's Hyde Park neighborhood (future home to Obama), and attending an elementary school with children of all ethnicities, I was confused by the phrase "African booty" in the jump rope song. I had no idea what it really meant, but even as a 7 year-old, I was uncomfortable saying it and didn't think it was a compliment.
I recall that prior to the late 1960s/early 1970s, most people in the United States-including Black people, considered "Africa" and "African" negatively. That's why I think it's significant that "African booty" was used in this jump rope rhyme to refer positively to a female with a big butt.
Maybe the positive reference was what the jump rope rhyme that you heard in the 1960s in Chicago's Hyde Park, but maybe it depended on the race/ethnicity of the girls singing the rhyme.
My point is that I think when Black girls sing/sang that rhyme it usually means something positive and refers to the fact that [people think] that Black women are known for our "big butts" while the negative stereotype for White women is that they usually have "flat butts".
However, see the comment that I added above on July 10, 2018 about the negative reference "Bertha butt". I added that comment as a result of reading yours and wanting to clarify the point about whether "African booty" was considered negative or not.
This was really informative, just leaving a comment to let you know that this post was not in vain!
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