Edited by Azizi Powell
This post provides information about House music and showcases a sound file and a video of the Jungle Brothers' now classic 1988 House music record "I'll House You" (clean version). Information about the Jungle Brothers is also given in this post.
This post also provide selected comments from the discussion thread of that featured sound file. Those selected comments focus on two aspects of bloggers' comments from this video's discussion thread: selected comments about how VEVO heavily censored this song's lyrics, and documentation of selected examples of bloggers' user screen names that are found in that video's discussion thread.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, historical, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
Thanks to Jungle Brothers for their musical legacy and thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the producers of this sound file and this video and the publishers of this video.
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EDITOR'S COMMENT
This post continues my interest on examples of user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of YouTube.* I'm particularly interested in documenting types of "made up" user names because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters and its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names" (first and last names).** And it appears that many people have done so, including me.
This post focuses on selected names used by bloggers that posted comments reminiscing about their experiences with old school House music. In this context, "old School" means music from the 1980s and 1990s.
This isn't meant to be a complete listing of the made up user names on this videos' viewer comment threads. However, I believe that these featured user names are representative of the types of user names that are found on that particular comment thread. I also believe that these types of YouTube user names are representative of many of the types of user names that are currently found throughout the internet.
I've added no analysis of these selected names. However, I will note that there a considerable portion of these names end in numbers. I'm not sure why that custom to have been popular and also seems to remain popular among those bloggers who use "made up names" on the internet.
*Click the "YouTube user names" tag below to find other pancocojams posts in this ongoing series.
**Read my comments about YouTube encouraging commenters and uploaders to use their first and last names in this pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/07/damian-marley-welcome-to-jamrock.html "Damian Marley - "Welcome To Jamrock" (Comments On VEVO Censorship & Examples Of YouTube User Names)"
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INFORMATION ABOUT HOUSE MUSIC
From http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=House+Music
"House music, (named "House Music" after The Warehouse club in Chicago where it originated in the early 1980's,) is a style of electronic dance music that was developed by dance club DJs in Chicago that were influenced by early to mid-1970s dance music as spun by DJs in New York, and spread to Detroit, New York, and eventually Europe. House music is strongly influenced by elements of the early to mid 1970s soul- and funk-infused dance music style of disco. House music takes disco's use of a prominent bass drum on every beat and developed a new style by mixing in a heavy electronic synthesizer bassline, electronic drums, electronic effects, funk and pop samples, and reverb- or delay-enhanced vocals...
Origins of the term
The term "house music" is said to have originated from a Chicago club called The Warehouse, which existed from 1977 to 1983.[43] Clubbers to The Warehouse were primarily black and gay,[33] who came to dance to music played by the club's resident DJ Frankie Knuckles, whom fans refer to as the "godfather of house"....
Chip E.'s 1985 recording "It's House" may also have helped to define this new form of electronic music.[47] However, Chip E. himself lends credence to the Knuckles association, claiming the name came from methods of labeling records at the Importes Etc. record store, where he worked in the early 1980s: bins of music that DJ Knuckles played at the Warehouse nightclub were labelled in the store "As Heard At The Warehouse", which was shortened to simply "House". Patrons later asked for new music for the bins, which Chip E. implies was a demand the shop tried to meet by stocking newer local club hits.[48]"...
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE JUNGLE BROTHERS
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jungle_Brothers
"The Jungle Brothers are an American hip hop group that pioneered the fusion of jazz and hip-hop and also became the first hip-hop group to use a house-music producer. The group began performing in the mid-1980s and released its first album, Straight Out the Jungle, in July 1988.[1] With Afrocentric lyrics and innovative beats, the Jungle Brothers were critically acclaimed and soon joined the influential Native Tongues collective.[2] The original trio comprised Michael Small (Mike Gee), Nathaniel Hall (Afrika Baby Bam, a homage to Afrika Bambaataa) and Sammy Burwell (DJ Sammy B). Sammy B left the group after the group released Raw Deluxe in May 1997.[1]"...
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Jungle Brothers - I'll House You
Central Station Records, Uploaded on Feb 24, 2011
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As of July 13, 2015
Total number of viewers:48,793
All Comments (32)
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Click Google Play: I'll House You lyrics for the complete lyrics to this song.
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SHOWCASE SOUND FILE: Jungle Brothers - I'll House You
chinita41 Uploaded on Dec 6, 2008
Jungle Brothers - I'll House You
NYC Clubbers Stand Up! Bring those days back :)
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As of July 13, 2015
Total number of viewers: 1,711,262
All Comments (816)
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SELECTED VIEWER NAMES AND THEIR COMMENTS (from the sound file that is given above:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFGhQSiGHWM
I've selected these comments as examples of YouTube users' names and for the remembrances, opinions, and/or information about House music that are found in the comments themselves.
These comments and single comments are given in relative chronological order, but they may not be in consecutive order.
I've assigned numbers to these comments, including each comment in exchanges, for referencing purposes. My comments and/or explanations about certain words in a few of these comments are given after the word "snip" (meaning "quote ends").
Also, note that I classified all of the comments posted with the date " 1 year ago" to be in 2014, although some of those comments could have been posted in 2013.
A number of comments on YouTube viewer comment threads contain profanity. However, I've not included any of those comments below except for the mild curse word "damn".
2009
1. ralaboo
"The Garage NEW YORK was playing it... Oh boy do i rememer the nights and then the morning lol. I may remember<<<<"
2010
2. curegurl724
"HOUSE MUSIC ALL NIGHT LONG!!!! This says it all!!!! Listen and learn young ones.........."
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3. Derrick Saunders
"STILL HOUSING FROM DAY ONE. I PLAY THIS OLD SCHOOL SET IT OFF JAM,,,,,,,,WHEN EVER I STRESS..... AND OTHERS LIKE IT AND" WORK" DAnce around my HOMe until I get that old school smile back on my face, Thanks Jungle Brothers"
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4. James Tanga
"This is what " OLD SCHOOL " is all about !! The year was: 1988 !!"
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5. chinita41
"HOUSE MUSIC ALL NIGHT LONGG!! never forget how many times i jumped up to this one on the dance floor...nyc clubbers stand up!"
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In this context, "stand up" is short for "Stand up and be counted". Other ways of saying the same thing are "Let people know that you are here"., "Represent!" and "Holla! (Holler!). As shown throughout this compilation of comments from that discussion thread, people from cities besides New York City and nations besides the USA represented where they live/lived when they danced to this song by adding a comment naming that city or that nation.
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6. ToroRossoColonia
"Cologne City, back in Day!!!"
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7. brightingsky2009
"In Amsterdam the Netherlands, I remember this song very well. Each weekend in club Roxy feel the house music shocking tru your bones! That were the day's! Thank you for this upload. d-_-b"
2011
8. jerpster
"how many tunes have sampled this classic? LOADS AND LOADS!"
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9. fagAshLil1234
"@ShadesOfRapture The ‘Can you feel it’ vocal Jungle Brothers and Fingers both sampled is from the live version of ‘Can you feel it’ by Jackson 5"
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10. Paul Encinias
"hands down one of the all time best adreneline generators"
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11. Nickey Black
in reply to helenhirst74
"@helenhirst74 whether white, black, it dont matta cuz dis song is the ultimate house song......no lie! (what is sunny in leeds?)"
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I can't find helenhirst74's comment. It may have been deleted, but it seems that it was talking about the race of people who like House music.
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12. Laurence Nealon
"This may have been a big song especially in New York, but I remember vividly dancing to this in 1988 with my late first wife in London ;D Oh the memories."
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13. manyamurani
"this tune was big in zim,bretts nite club with dj tommy dutch in da house"
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“zim” = colloquial referent for Zimbabwe in Southern Africa
"Tune" = the entire song and not just the song's melody.
People in the Caribbean also use "tune" ("chune", "choon") as a referent for the entire song.
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14. 2NONOISE1871400
"House Music was BORN in CHICAGO!!!! NOT nyc"
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15. nycrebel
in reply to NONOISE1871400
"@NONOISE1871400 Not true. Colonel Abrams is doing a documentary on it and says it started in NYC."
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16. watchulla
in reply to nycrebel
""@nycrebel if u are talking about house music it started in Chicago in the late 70's early 80's. it played in mostly Gay Clubs with Black and Latino Men. Well that is what i read. It hit NYC shortly after in the early 80's.
That i remember, having teenage sisters at the time!LOL""
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17. Jay Janssen
"Round 'n round 'n round 'n round 'n round 'n hear the housemusic steady steady poundin', feel the energy rush up through your vains, feel the vibe FEEL THE VIBE feel the BASS come on! EPIC!!!"
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18. articulatedcomics
"I remember this was the joint that got the club turnt! Everybody jumpin up kickin that 1 leg back and sweatin like mad!"
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In the context of this comment, "joint" means "song"/"record". "Jam" is another African American originated slang term for "song"/"record".
Notice that sweating a lot (gettin funky) is a sign the people were really dancing hard to a particular song.
The African American Vernacular English word "turnt" means "hyped", "pumped up", "crunked", "really energized", "really excited". "Turned up" is another way of saying "turnt".
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19. Michael Cangelosi
"I also remember this classix on the Boardwalk at the Jersey Shore in Wildwood."
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20. svetaswan
"I'm fascinated by all the posts re: the New York club scene in the late '80s. I didn't discover this jam until my cousin handed me a "Best of House Music" tape in early-1991, in which this song was the 1st track. I guess that's what living in suburban Atlanta will do to you, lol.
That tape started my love affair with house music- guess I was late to the party compared to you clubbing Northeasterners!
I miss the days of house music being this "edgy" thing I would jam to."
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21. Cromeus
"You know you're a true house head when you can sing all the words out loud to this track!"
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"House head" = a fan of House music
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22. mamaruti
"you can't help but groove along to this choon, even over 20 years later. ah, those were the days."
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23. jehovahsbelovedone
"bumped this joint all day in school, streets ,and home jersey be rockin house music"
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"bumped this joint" = danced to this record or played this record
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24. Yo Momma
"thank god my parents showed me wat real music iz :)"
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"wat" = what
"iz" = is
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25. sjr10011
"Turn it up!!!"
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While "turn it up" might mean "Make the volume louder", I think that this comment problably means something like "Get energized!; "Pump your spirit up!" (Pump up the spirit/atmosphere in a club). Another colloquial way of saying this is "Get fired up!".
Read my comments in after #16 about the word "turnt".
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26. Thunderdome616
"jungle brothers old skool yeeaaahhh boooiiiii jazzhiphouseraphop serious ol' skoooollll smooooooth ;)"
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27. AIRSO97
"i wish i could have lived back in the 90 back before house became annoying ass distorted synths with constant pitch drops"
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2012
28. mightydesign
"I am from Los Angeles and I still remember the first Quinceanera that I heard this song in back in spring or summer of 1990. It was becoming so popular, nice trip down memory lane."
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From http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/quinceanera
"(among Hispanics in Latin America and the U.S.) a celebration of a girl's 15th birthday, marking her transition from childhood to maturity."
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29. AntariRoyale
"my mama raised me on house music, i love it! im 17, but i think the 80's and 90's had the best music!!!
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30. sammygirl415
in reply to AntariRoyale
"@AntariRoyale your moms a good woman :)"
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31. bellybellzzz
in reply to AntariRoyale
"@AntariRoyale Same here I remember jamming to this when I was like 3 lol"
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32. Samantha livey
"Classic joint"
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33. Dionne White
"WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE BRING THIS TYPE OF MUSIC BACK?!!!!"
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34. ADORE7373
"this was $1 house parties in NYC..So packed you were in hallway getting your dance on..."
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35. tonytrailmixx
"I wish I grew up when the house music was good. Aww yes that funky, funky house music no electro"
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36. bilal1001
"ULTIMATE HOUSE CLASSIC"
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37. Chef Payne
"I have been to every club from 1987 - 1995 NYC House music forever!!!!"
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38. David Shea
in reply to Chef Payne
"@cheftpayne you may have created but the UK took it and made it so much better ....100,000 people dancing in a field in the middle of nowhere surrounded by police....now thats taking it..lol"
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39. Writing4Light
"Fantastic party dance song! Impossible to remain still to this sound. Reminds me of the studio 54 era. I can see everybody doing the “Farmer Dance” once again. Thank you."
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40. droptopsixfo
"From New York to Manchester and beyond"
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41. ruth brown
"We partied to this in Memphis too......."
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42. Sherry Lewis-da Ponte
"UMASS in the house!!!!!"
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"In the house!" was and still is an exclamation that means the person is announcing that he or she is in the place [where the party or event is taking place.] Read comment #47 and comment #48 for sayings that might occur before a person "announced" that he or she was "in the house".
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43. LittleBabyBum ®
"hip house came and went *way* too fast. had lots more legs in it imho. back in the days when clubs were a melting pot of lots of different genres - typically in one room. great memories!! My short term memory is a bit, erm, wobbly ;) but I can remember the good ol days like they were yesterday :) - peace n love xx
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44. complexbrother
"Chi town stand up !!! the origonators of house music !!!"
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"Chi town" = Chicago, Illinois
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45. MrOLESKOOL20
"I used to love this song @ Lorettas in ATL!"
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ATL= Atlanta, Georgia
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46. TheInformalstyle
"Todd Terry wouldn't let them sample Royal House's 'Can u Party' for this track (kinda ironic considering how many samples are in that track), so they went in the studio and rebuilt it themselves from scratch."
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"from scratch"= starting with nothing
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2013
47. DaKissa78
"House Head for Life!!! Chi Town Represent!!!"
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48. Ghettogruver
"Crown Heights where ya at???"
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49. Robert S
"Man, 1988, Howard University, all a DJ needed to play was this and he was straight!"
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"he was straight" = He'd be a hit (Everyone would approve of his music selection.)
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50. FrenzyyBeats
in reply to Gulab Jamun
"nyc killaaaaa!!! this came from CHICAGOOOOOO!!!"
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51. Greg/Tracey50
in reply to FrenzyyBeats
"Actually, this was the first HipHouse song recorded outside of the Chicago scene.The year was 1989... You Chi-Town queens need to stop claiming every house track."
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52. EdiBlazE
"cassette tapes and vinyl only permitted for this kind of music lol"
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53. DCBIGBLKMN
"Brings back so many memories!!! Tracks, Lost and Found all DC clubs long gone.
House music all nite long.
WHoa!!"
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"tracks" - music tapes
"DC clubs" = Washington DC nightclubs
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54. 1taloria
"Latin Quarters calling me....!!"
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55. CrowleyHead
in reply to ev3nflow
"And where were those original records that inspired the people DJing in the Hacienda coming from again?"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Ha%C3%A7ienda
"Fac 51 The Haçienda (better known simply as The Haçienda) was a nightclub and music venue in Manchester, England. It became most famous during the "Madchester" years of the late 1980s and early 1990s; during the 1990s it was labelled the most famous club in the world by Newsweek magazine.[1][2][3][4]"...
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56. elwatusi92
"The name came from The Warehouse where Frankie Knuckles brought the sound...here's your flaw...Frankie Knuckles is from NYC and was close friends with Larry Levan of the Paradise Garage from whom he picked up his style and hung out with before going out to Chicago. House was born in NYC but didn't get it's name until Chicago"
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57. ajbono42
in reply to elwatusi92
"Frankie Knuckles was the big name back in manhattan in the eighties.the warehouse and limelight was the spots so was lamour east the roxy..that boy was bad!!"
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"The boy was bad!!!"= That man was great!!!.
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58.
murvon
"Such a great time to be clubbing in NYC, limelight, The Tunnel, The Palladium."
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"clubbing" ="going to nightclubs"
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59. ajbono42
in reply to Wilson Muniz
"Brownsville and East New York in DA house!!!!!!"
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2014
60. Re Lax
"my new school chick can't stand this song for some reason, but I love this classic. The MC's (Jungle Brother crew) were from NYC, but the beat they sampled is from Chicago-based Marshall Jefferson and his classic "Move Your Body"."
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61. Lisa Fiel
"love to be housed this music makes you want to dance dance dance"
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In the context of this comment "love to be housed" probably means, "love House music".
Notice the lack of capitalization and punctuation in this sentence, and in others in this compilation. This is a feature of internet blogging and texting because communicating fast is much more important than following capitalization and punctuation rules. The assumption is that those rules are understood and the target audience for those comments will understand what the person is writing.
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62. akAsha6E6D
"still have dis on vinyl!!!!
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"dis" = a hip way (and not the minstrel way) of saying "this"
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63. Jason Davison
"Nice stuff! The older music sounds really different compared to the current wave of house."
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Reply
64. Chad Haney
"+Jason Davison with the older house music, you could tell that disco had not completely faded yet."
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Click http://www.thecoli.com/threads/why-doesnt-disco-music-get-props-for-being-the-mother-of-house-music.90378/ "Why doesn't Disco music get props for being the mother of House music?" for a lengthy discussion about the connection between Disco music and House music.
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65. monecey70
"I'm going back to Chi-Town!! I think after 87, house started becoming to techno!! Damn good post!!"
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67. GoedNieuwsuitRdam
"It's a rework of Todd Terry's (Royal House) classic Can You Party! Check this out!"
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68. alisa schmidt
"NYC? Chicago House is what this is!!!!!! You in my house now!!!!"
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69. Terri Allan
"I was born in 1973 so I'm 100% Ol' Skool from Otis Redding, The Commodores, Earth, Wind & Fire to Chaka Ckhan "I feel for you" Grand Mater Flash "5mins of Funk", Whodini "Friends", After 7 Ready or Not, New Edition, Bell.Biv.Devo to Guy then Black Street, Tribe Caled Quest etc, Mary J. Blige, SWV, Brandy & TLC muah bless and nuff luv to Left Eye Lisa Lopez - But now when it comes to house I was in grade 8 at an all ages huge night club when it was introduced especially this song and the biggest flaw in this jam is that it's played out till this day. What youngsters these days don't understand is when House came out in 87 and 88 it was made since I'm from Toronto, ON Canada for a new millenium of all races uniting as one through music.
Example this song I'll send a link to follow is true and true on house, what house is really about please if you"ve never neard it listen to the words back in grade 8 even till now for some of us love sees no colour so instead of fighting we Battled it out on the dance floor, even if it was over drugs we'd shake hands with each other and the winner would either have someone come in thinking they could beat me or my old dance partner Devon Williams my boi till this day but soon everyone knew their place and trust me it was all about Love and respect on and off the dance floor and in 2001 ganster Rap came in and all that hard work we as a huge City did to keep it safe & harmonious for all to walk the streets went to hell and props to all the original House Artists we all still anyone from Toronto Canada 38-63 hear, feel & dance to your music everyday.
Sorry to fill up ur page girl but this had to be said after after reading Todd Prager, purplelove & Sherron J this is NOT I repeat not one of the greatest Classic House Jams but it was trendy we knew all the words people who hated house would go in the middle of the dance floor annd spill their drinks lmao to make it easier for the next even better house jam to dance to with our bell bottoms not 60's ells but everyone into House always day or night we all dressed up clean smooth sweet like the music healed our minds, bodies and souls - Whew that's enough typing for me for a week plus me writing that last statement gave me chills ( good ones all over). if you"re a house fan go back as far as 1984 Set it Off' (by gresty1), Follow Me by oODJFriendlyOo and Promise Land by Joe Smooth awe yeah..."
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70. Jason Davison
"Were you part of the original Chicago house scene?
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71. Chad Haney
in reply to Jason Davison
"I think saying I was a part of it is a big stretch. I was certainly into house music and going to the clubs in the late 80s and early 90s. I did listen to tapes of WBMX when I could."
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72. purplelove010
"Sound like they sampled Pump Up the Jam."
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73. Aleza Seibert
Reply
"Pump Up the Jam sampled them."
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Reply
74. deedee n
"+Aleza Seibert true you right! "
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"True you right" is a form of "True dat"" which was (and may still be) a common affirmative saying in African American Vernacular English.
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75. 2600..Graceguia
"Readin' some comments, I can't believe this trax still alive. I haven't listened to it in decades. For some reason i wanted to hear it this mornin' ...n it still be the bombdiggity!!!"
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76. princess serenity44
"Love this song"
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77. Russy Jody
"Is she saying "this is a black born out of his tent"?"
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78. GrannyBX
Reply
"It is actually "this is a blank formatted diskette". The sample was created when you formatted a floppy in the Ensoniq Mirage sampler keyboard. After formatting, the disk would contain this single sample as a test. I recognize it because I used to own one of these keyboards."
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79. noah zark
Reply
+GrannyBX
"..after 25 years I finally know.. thanks"
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80. Davetheonemendez
"Yes, it's actually saying (at the end) "this is a blank formatted diskette" Brooklyn, Stand up! This jam right here set fire in every club it was played throughout the world."
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81. Lianne George
"let your mind be free, relax your body. orhh yehh!"
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82. JUNGLE BROTHERS 4 LIFE
"Thank u"
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83. Lucas North
"When this song came on at Birchill In Jersey in 89 90. Every body hit the floor. The beginning of house music for us hip hop heads."
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84. dreamingcode
"How many young potential Frankie Knuckles die on the streets of Chi town every day?"
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85. Sherri Smith
"This is the jam"
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86. retiredin96
"When you're in my HUT, you know what's up! Let your mind be free, re-lax your bo-dy!🎶...(Y) (Y)"
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87. Reggae4lifee
"this samples 'move your body' by marshall jefferson"
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88. David Williams
"Warehouse in East London, 5000 ravers going mental to this and many other classic house tunes, off their heads on E that I heard this song in back in spring or summer of 1990. It was becoming so popular, nice trip down memory lane."
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89. juan love
"I will house you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!lol"
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90. Synthee
"In an old-school #club mood this morning."
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91. William Bowe
"MAN!!! THIS WAS ONE OF MY BEST!!!! LOVE IT THIS SONG WILL NEVER PLAY OUT. TAKES ME BACK TO DC."
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92. Stephanie George
"Uh oh, gotta do the running man 🏃🏃🏃 hahahaha!😂"
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"The running man" was a popular old school Rhythm & Blues/Hip Hop dance which a person in the club might still do from time to time for fun.
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93. LoubyLou10
"Classic! Hands up if you know all the words :)"
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94. Jose Dios
"down & dirty house head! nyc underground house was insane."
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95. James Johnson
"You had to move some par of your body when this was played."
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96. DJ Lucas D
"feel the vibe"
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97. armyofone071
"Sweet Daddy, break it on down....this is a blast from out of the past. How did they know?"
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"Break it down!" was usually an exclamation to keep "telling it like it is". In the context of this comment, "break it on down" probably means that the Jungle Brothers should continue feeling and performing that music with all your heart, body, and soul. "Breaking something down" usually means to take it apart. The assumption is that if you are fully expressing something, you know and understand all of parts.
2015
98. 8CountAudio
"brings back so many memories…Chi-town radio in the late '80s"
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99. abbyboyone
"I remember out here in LA. Wearing my white jeans with paisley pattern long sleeve and my docs. Banging those skins."
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100. Bruva Soul
"House Music all night long..say what?..House Music all night long..SAY WHAT..House music all night long!!!!"
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101. Hector Perez
"GIRL I SEE YOU..DO WHAT YOU DO...GO ON GIRL AND ACT THE FOOL..THERE NO NEED TO PLAY ME COOL..
....LOVE IT!!!! TELL ME YOU DIDN'T HAVE THAT JB HAT AND THE FATIGUE JACKET...TIM BOOTS LOOKING LIKE WE IN THE MOVIE JUICE..."
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The clothing mentioned in this quote can be seen in the Jungle Brothers video that is featured above.
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102. Golden Era
"When I first liked house music & didn't even know it"
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103. Nathan R
Reply
"+Golden Era for real"
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"For real" means "I agree with what you just said".
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104. Golden Era
Reply
"+Nathan R You housed me :-P"
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In the context of this comment, "You housed me" means something like "You got into a relationship with me". The emoticon at the end of the comment indicates that Golden Era wrote that comment facetiously Nathan R because he agreed with her.
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105. The Truthseeker63
"Back then, we came correct!!! We didn't disrespect!!! We acknowledged ! I wish we did that now! Peace Brotha's and Sista's!"
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106. Eff Taroza
"The Jungle Brothers were so under rated and under appreciated, off the Straight out the Jungle album, for those who don't know."
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107. Robbie Hayes
"Still a killer Tune..-)"
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"killer" = great; The record kills all its competition.
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108. GRIND ETHIKS MIXTAPE SHOW
"this is when the ny music scene was hot well at least lower east side Manhattan and williamsburg brooklyn parties still spin real quality music and not giving a [profanity deleted] about top 40 music that is wack"
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"wack" = weak, silly, foolish, low quality, not good
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109. Bluezy Tube
"South Chicago!!!!!!"
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110. Chris Jones
"I'll House you, You in my Hut now!"
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111. Cynthia Duke
"Party People"
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112. Val JazzyRed L
"Heck yes! My old stomping grounds!!! Chicago Music box, The Warehouse, davinci manor...Steve Silk Hurley, Frankie Knuckles. This takes me back home."
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Showing posts with label YouTube user names. Show all posts
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Sunday, July 12, 2015
Damian Marley - "Welcome To Jamrock" (Comments On VEVO Censorship & Examples Of YouTube User Names)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post showcases a video of Damian Marley's hit Reggae song "Welcome To Jamrock" and focuses on two aspects of bloggers' comments from this video's discussion thread: selected comments about how VEVO heavily censored this song's lyrics, and documentation of selected examples of bloggers' user screen names that are found in that video's discussion thread.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, historical, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
Thanks to Damian Marley for his musical legacy and thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the producers of this video and the publisher of this video.
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EDITOR'S COMMENT
This post continues my interest on examples of user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of YouTube.* I'm particularly interested in documenting types of "made up" user names because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters and its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names" (first and last names).** And it appears that many people have done so, including me.
This post focuses on selected names used by bloggers that posted comments critizing Vevo, the publisher of this Damian Marley video, for its heavy handed censorship of that song. Although profanity is usually the target of censorship, a number of commenters noted that there are no curse words in "Welcome To Jamrock". Those bloggers' comments are also included in this post. While a sub-theme of this post is censorship, I purposely didn't include any commenter's name that includes profanity. Furthermore, with the exception of the mild curse word "hell", I purposely didn't quote any comments that include profanity, although this discussion thread includes A LOT of such comments.
This isn't meant to be a complete listing of the made up user names on this videos' viewer comment threads. However, I believe that these featured user names are representative of the types of user names that are found on that particular comment thread. I also believe that these types of YouTube user names are representative of many of the types of user names that are currently found throughout the internet.
*Click the "YouTube user names" tag below to find other pancocojams posts in this ongoing series.
**My made up screen name on YouTube was "Azizip17" (my firstg name, my last name initial, and my favorite number). I documented that within the month of June 2012 when I attempted to post a comment on that YouTube, a message would pop up encouraging me or reminding me to change my screen name to my full name. Unfortunately, I didn't keep one of those messages and I don't remember the messages exact wording. I finally got tired of ignoring that prompting, and changed my user name to my first and last name. If I recall correctly, making that change meant that the made up name that had been shown with all of my previous comments converted to my first and last name.
While this change to full names was and still is optional on YouTube, it appears that many more YouTube bloggers post 2012 are using their full names. My guess is that the theory behind that push to have commenters use their full names was that if a YouTube blogger used his or her real name, he or she would post less offensive content on those discussion threads. If the YouTube administration hoped for that result, I definitely don't think it worked.
I was concerned the move to real names would mean that there would be less creativity in the types of screen names bloggers select. But, thankfully, there are still many creative user names on YouTube. While I won't attempt to classify these selected user names, notice the considerable percentage of user names that end with a number. I'm not sure why that custom is so popular. Also, unlike some other YouTube comment threads, I found very few user names on Damian Marley's video thread that referenced race, ethnicity, nationality. And I found no comments with the exception of names such as "Rastafarian" that referenced religion.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO" Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock
DamianMarleyVEVO, Uploaded on Jun 16, 2009
Music video by Damian Marley performing Welcome To Jamrock. (C) 2005 Universal Records, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.
-snip-
[as of 9:32 AM EST]
Total number of viewer hits Total number of viewer comments:
All Comments (11,699)
-snip-
Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCmQcRPtRg for an uncensored sound file of this song (with a photo collage).
Click http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/damianmarley/welcometojamrock.html for the uncensored lyrics to this song.
****
SELECTED VIEWER NAMES AND THEIR COMMENTS
I've selected these comments as examples of YouTube users' names and for the writing style, opinions, and/or historical information that are found in the comments themselves.
The examples that are part of an exchange of comments are distinguised from single comments by the word "reply". However, all of the comments in that exchange may not be quoted here. These multiple comments and single comments are given in relative chronological order, but they may not be in consecutive order.
I've assigned numbers to these comments, including each comment in exchanges, for referencing purposes. My explanations about a few of these comments are given after the word "snip" (meaning "quote ends").
The year given for these comments may be wrong. For instance, I classified all of the comments posted with the date "1 year ago" to be in 2014, although some of those comments could have been posted in 2013.
2013
1. diego760
"Censor ruins the song"
**
2. misterhijack
"wow! they censor the word guns and murder..."
**
3. anandbnana
"Music and all forms of art should never be censored. What happened to the 1st amendment?"
**
4.Kvantasan
"gun is censored as well?why, then why are they selling them ...maaan ..im getting angry...they should censor VEVO....very evil video organization"
**
5. yogini34
"What the hell is this? Why even put it up if it's edited beyond recognition. Between the editing of every other song, deletion of the rest and more commercials than on Channel 4, what's the point?"
**
2014
6. Richard Aka Silver
"This censorship does not even make any sense Oo"
**
7. Rose Mustang (Drakus Hoovley)
"in GTA VI they don't censor the whole song. and they feature a few Bob Marley and the Wailers songs.
-snip-
"GTV"= the video game "Grand Theft Auto"
**
8. Ashley Hogan
"The shame is this song doesnt have one curse word in it. Stop censoring random words to make it sound like hes saying bad stuff."
**
9. Matteo T
"how could you censor the word ''contact''? lol"
**
10. Collin Curtin
"i cant figure out if i want to thumbs down it because it got messed up by VEVO's unreal censorship or thumbs up because the song originally is good."
**
11. tony tookie
The beginning of the song he sings, "Out in the streets they call it MURDER!!". Why did they censor the word "murder"? Was it racist, homophobic, sexist? Was he advocating murder? No. These censors are complete fools.
**
12. OhMyLawdProductions
"why do they censor guns,shot,weed and murder"
**
13. descendantFromHopi
"What is with all the blurred out words? It just kills the flow, I want to hear the full version."
**
14. Inferno “money” Goode
Don't censor the song when they can't censor out the violence Jamaica"
**
15. Joe Davis
"Insultingly censored"
**
16. bobik marley
"it's better without censorship"
**
17. Nabil Nahdi
"I am really disappointed with the censored version"
**
18. Mizzuz C
"uncensored version please..."
**
19. Juan Vega
"wait those were "bad words"?"
**
20. Whiskel
"Some idiot was given the task of deciding the censoring of this great track. He/she should be at least sacked."
**
21. "Roco Lagrange
"they call it MUUUUUUURDER !
thank you VEVO for screwing up a good song"
**
22. Korey Sylver
"They kill me with the radio edit! I understand that Damian Marley had to do it for radio and video play but some songs are just ruined by editing and this is one of them"
**
23. n0cr4p
"haha it's really OVERcensored. I lot of songs are, sadly.. I've heard some censored versions even take out words like "knife" and "blood," because you know, a lot of three year olds would be scarred for life if they heard that. And usually when I hear unnecessary censoring, I just assume there's a worse word there than there really is, and the song actually becomes more vulgar and offensive to me. Not that I'm personally offended by cursing in the first place... but you get the point."
**
24. Artur Kot
"This censure is ugly"
**
25. Z4GY_Official
"90% song is censured"
**
26. Raven Crimson
"Sooo... When did murder become a curse Word?"
**
27. 14kaduh
"This censorship is ridiculous"
**
28. eviltwincousin
"With all references to violence censored out, this song makes no sense..."
**
29. peterheikoh
"the uncensored version is better"
**
30. fahq8484
"I wish adblock could block them from censoring this great song"
**
31. poio21
"The censorship is too irritating."
**
32. Moogin
"So they censored pound but not weed?
Now I don't like censoring things but I'm pretty sure that's not how it's done."
**
33. mano a mano
"PLEASE, change the title of this joint to : "Jamrock, Barney the friendly dinosaur version" or something. With every other word bleeped out, it's almost unlistenable."
**
34. theohaigy
"Its such a shame that this song is ripped to shreds by editing and censuring. There's nothing offensive whatsoever and its a great track and depiction of life on the ground beyond the stereotypes."
**
35. Jody E.
"why have they censored so many of the words??!!! when since "murder" and "gun" a curses?? kmmttt <3 the song still but this grieve me" ** 36. j4k3h17m4n "They censored pound? Pound??!!!!" **** 37. Corey Hall "It's merther not murder you fools" Reply 38. TRILL DRILL "Means the same. English = Murder Patois = Murther Now move along ithiot, Yuh dohn speak di language suh yuh Cyaan correct people" Reply 39. Cory Hall "+Thomas Howard Merther is a word used to describe the sensation felt when listening to dubby/reggae tunes while being high. Look it up mate." Reply 40. Corey Hall +Thomas Howard http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=merther cheers
Reply
41. G-Unit Gang
"who cares what urban dictionary says that's not fact. didn't you notice all the dislikes? this song is clearly talking about murder. go read the lyrics hes not talking about killing people hes just talking about how dangerous it is to live in jamaica with all the murders going on in the streets. the song has nothing to do with smoking and listenin to reggie."
....
Reply
42. Corey Hall
"Look up the lyrics, educate yourselves."
**
43. Sir Mutton Chops
"They censored "Murder"? Really?"
**
Mauricio Coombs
44. "Lol it says out in the streets they call it murder."
Reply
46. Dante Acosta
"Merther"
Reply
46. Corey Hall
"+Mauricio Coombs you sir, see wrong. Look up the word merther or murther"
Reply
47. Mauricio Coombs
"1st im jamaican so i understand what he says. 2nd why would he say murther if he is talking about crime and violence? do you even understand the words to the song?"
Reply
49. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs I understand what you are saying, but if he is sampling Ini Kamoze's world a music, which I assume uses murther, wouldn't that make the lyric murther in Damian ' s track?"
Reply
49. acidbubblebath77
"Let me ask you this instead. What is the consensus with Jamicans? I'm not worried either way, I'm more or less curious. Thanx man."
Reply
50. Mauricio Coombs
"Im afraid i dont understand what you mean."
Reply
51. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs Sorry, I know that was confusing. Let me ask it this way. Is it generally accepted among Jamaicans that he is saying "murder" and not "murthur?"
It is interesting that there seems to be a lot of confusion with what people believe he is saying. Again, it's probably being blown out of proportion here but I just want to know what yours and your fellow countrymen's perspective is and I'll leave it at that."
Reply
52. Corey Hall
"+acidbubblebath77 thank you"
Reply
53. Mauricio Coombs
"All jamaicans know its muder. Murther is more of a good Vibes. and because it is sampled from ini kamoze song sly and robbie (the creators of the riddim) could just refix it."
**
54. Davin Marec “Black Hawk” PC 4101 Ace
"Murder I think"
Reply
55. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs Wow, I didn't know that was sly and robbie riddim! Shit, I wouldn't have known that. Thanks bro!"
Reply
56. Mauricio Coombs
"haha np."
-snip-
“np” probably means “no problem”.
**
2015
57. barzy qasim
"VEVO is run by soccer moms dude."
Reply
58. Travis Hunt
"+barzy qasim haha!"
**
59. Richard Endler
"Why censored hip hop and reggae lyrics?? this just destroys good songs...."
**
60. Rob Tarry
"What a waste of productive time censoring this song. What's so bad about saying ganja?"
**
61. Hari Iyer
"Vevo can you please upload a non bs version?"
**
62. Riaan van der Merwe
"well done you freakon ruined this track...thank youtube...pffft......#useless"
**
63. TomThe Üpsilonn
"Babylon has essentially hidden the message, with these bloody censors! But anyway this is a fantastic song!"
-snip-
"Babylon" is a Rastafarian term that means "the evil government".
**
64. Aaron Cannon (cp3o)
"they only censor music to control and take away from peoples creativity not cool though"
****
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This post showcases a video of Damian Marley's hit Reggae song "Welcome To Jamrock" and focuses on two aspects of bloggers' comments from this video's discussion thread: selected comments about how VEVO heavily censored this song's lyrics, and documentation of selected examples of bloggers' user screen names that are found in that video's discussion thread.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, historical, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
Thanks to Damian Marley for his musical legacy and thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the producers of this video and the publisher of this video.
****
EDITOR'S COMMENT
This post continues my interest on examples of user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of YouTube.* I'm particularly interested in documenting types of "made up" user names because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters and its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names" (first and last names).** And it appears that many people have done so, including me.
This post focuses on selected names used by bloggers that posted comments critizing Vevo, the publisher of this Damian Marley video, for its heavy handed censorship of that song. Although profanity is usually the target of censorship, a number of commenters noted that there are no curse words in "Welcome To Jamrock". Those bloggers' comments are also included in this post. While a sub-theme of this post is censorship, I purposely didn't include any commenter's name that includes profanity. Furthermore, with the exception of the mild curse word "hell", I purposely didn't quote any comments that include profanity, although this discussion thread includes A LOT of such comments.
This isn't meant to be a complete listing of the made up user names on this videos' viewer comment threads. However, I believe that these featured user names are representative of the types of user names that are found on that particular comment thread. I also believe that these types of YouTube user names are representative of many of the types of user names that are currently found throughout the internet.
*Click the "YouTube user names" tag below to find other pancocojams posts in this ongoing series.
**My made up screen name on YouTube was "Azizip17" (my firstg name, my last name initial, and my favorite number). I documented that within the month of June 2012 when I attempted to post a comment on that YouTube, a message would pop up encouraging me or reminding me to change my screen name to my full name. Unfortunately, I didn't keep one of those messages and I don't remember the messages exact wording. I finally got tired of ignoring that prompting, and changed my user name to my first and last name. If I recall correctly, making that change meant that the made up name that had been shown with all of my previous comments converted to my first and last name.
While this change to full names was and still is optional on YouTube, it appears that many more YouTube bloggers post 2012 are using their full names. My guess is that the theory behind that push to have commenters use their full names was that if a YouTube blogger used his or her real name, he or she would post less offensive content on those discussion threads. If the YouTube administration hoped for that result, I definitely don't think it worked.
I was concerned the move to real names would mean that there would be less creativity in the types of screen names bloggers select. But, thankfully, there are still many creative user names on YouTube. While I won't attempt to classify these selected user names, notice the considerable percentage of user names that end with a number. I'm not sure why that custom is so popular. Also, unlike some other YouTube comment threads, I found very few user names on Damian Marley's video thread that referenced race, ethnicity, nationality. And I found no comments with the exception of names such as "Rastafarian" that referenced religion.
****
SHOWCASE VIDEO" Damian Marley - Welcome To Jamrock
DamianMarleyVEVO, Uploaded on Jun 16, 2009
Music video by Damian Marley performing Welcome To Jamrock. (C) 2005 Universal Records, a Division of UMG Recordings, Inc.
-snip-
[as of 9:32 AM EST]
Total number of viewer hits Total number of viewer comments:
All Comments (11,699)
-snip-
Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlCmQcRPtRg for an uncensored sound file of this song (with a photo collage).
Click http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/damianmarley/welcometojamrock.html for the uncensored lyrics to this song.
****
SELECTED VIEWER NAMES AND THEIR COMMENTS
I've selected these comments as examples of YouTube users' names and for the writing style, opinions, and/or historical information that are found in the comments themselves.
The examples that are part of an exchange of comments are distinguised from single comments by the word "reply". However, all of the comments in that exchange may not be quoted here. These multiple comments and single comments are given in relative chronological order, but they may not be in consecutive order.
I've assigned numbers to these comments, including each comment in exchanges, for referencing purposes. My explanations about a few of these comments are given after the word "snip" (meaning "quote ends").
The year given for these comments may be wrong. For instance, I classified all of the comments posted with the date "1 year ago" to be in 2014, although some of those comments could have been posted in 2013.
2013
1. diego760
"Censor ruins the song"
**
2. misterhijack
"wow! they censor the word guns and murder..."
**
3. anandbnana
"Music and all forms of art should never be censored. What happened to the 1st amendment?"
**
4.Kvantasan
"gun is censored as well?why, then why are they selling them ...maaan ..im getting angry...they should censor VEVO....very evil video organization"
**
5. yogini34
"What the hell is this? Why even put it up if it's edited beyond recognition. Between the editing of every other song, deletion of the rest and more commercials than on Channel 4, what's the point?"
**
2014
6. Richard Aka Silver
"This censorship does not even make any sense Oo"
**
7. Rose Mustang (Drakus Hoovley)
"in GTA VI they don't censor the whole song. and they feature a few Bob Marley and the Wailers songs.
-snip-
"GTV"= the video game "Grand Theft Auto"
**
8. Ashley Hogan
"The shame is this song doesnt have one curse word in it. Stop censoring random words to make it sound like hes saying bad stuff."
**
9. Matteo T
"how could you censor the word ''contact''? lol"
**
10. Collin Curtin
"i cant figure out if i want to thumbs down it because it got messed up by VEVO's unreal censorship or thumbs up because the song originally is good."
**
11. tony tookie
The beginning of the song he sings, "Out in the streets they call it MURDER!!". Why did they censor the word "murder"? Was it racist, homophobic, sexist? Was he advocating murder? No. These censors are complete fools.
**
12. OhMyLawdProductions
"why do they censor guns,shot,weed and murder"
**
13. descendantFromHopi
"What is with all the blurred out words? It just kills the flow, I want to hear the full version."
**
14. Inferno “money” Goode
Don't censor the song when they can't censor out the violence Jamaica"
**
15. Joe Davis
"Insultingly censored"
**
16. bobik marley
"it's better without censorship"
**
17. Nabil Nahdi
"I am really disappointed with the censored version"
**
18. Mizzuz C
"uncensored version please..."
**
19. Juan Vega
"wait those were "bad words"?"
**
20. Whiskel
"Some idiot was given the task of deciding the censoring of this great track. He/she should be at least sacked."
**
21. "Roco Lagrange
"they call it MUUUUUUURDER !
thank you VEVO for screwing up a good song"
**
22. Korey Sylver
"They kill me with the radio edit! I understand that Damian Marley had to do it for radio and video play but some songs are just ruined by editing and this is one of them"
**
23. n0cr4p
"haha it's really OVERcensored. I lot of songs are, sadly.. I've heard some censored versions even take out words like "knife" and "blood," because you know, a lot of three year olds would be scarred for life if they heard that. And usually when I hear unnecessary censoring, I just assume there's a worse word there than there really is, and the song actually becomes more vulgar and offensive to me. Not that I'm personally offended by cursing in the first place... but you get the point."
**
24. Artur Kot
"This censure is ugly"
**
25. Z4GY_Official
"90% song is censured"
**
26. Raven Crimson
"Sooo... When did murder become a curse Word?"
**
27. 14kaduh
"This censorship is ridiculous"
**
28. eviltwincousin
"With all references to violence censored out, this song makes no sense..."
**
29. peterheikoh
"the uncensored version is better"
**
30. fahq8484
"I wish adblock could block them from censoring this great song"
**
31. poio21
"The censorship is too irritating."
**
32. Moogin
"So they censored pound but not weed?
Now I don't like censoring things but I'm pretty sure that's not how it's done."
**
33. mano a mano
"PLEASE, change the title of this joint to : "Jamrock, Barney the friendly dinosaur version" or something. With every other word bleeped out, it's almost unlistenable."
**
34. theohaigy
"Its such a shame that this song is ripped to shreds by editing and censuring. There's nothing offensive whatsoever and its a great track and depiction of life on the ground beyond the stereotypes."
**
35. Jody E.
"why have they censored so many of the words??!!! when since "murder" and "gun" a curses?? kmmttt <3 the song still but this grieve me" ** 36. j4k3h17m4n "They censored pound? Pound??!!!!" **** 37. Corey Hall "It's merther not murder you fools" Reply 38. TRILL DRILL "Means the same. English = Murder Patois = Murther Now move along ithiot, Yuh dohn speak di language suh yuh Cyaan correct people" Reply 39. Cory Hall "+Thomas Howard Merther is a word used to describe the sensation felt when listening to dubby/reggae tunes while being high. Look it up mate." Reply 40. Corey Hall +Thomas Howard http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=merther cheers
Reply
41. G-Unit Gang
"who cares what urban dictionary says that's not fact. didn't you notice all the dislikes? this song is clearly talking about murder. go read the lyrics hes not talking about killing people hes just talking about how dangerous it is to live in jamaica with all the murders going on in the streets. the song has nothing to do with smoking and listenin to reggie."
....
Reply
42. Corey Hall
"Look up the lyrics, educate yourselves."
**
43. Sir Mutton Chops
"They censored "Murder"? Really?"
**
Mauricio Coombs
44. "Lol it says out in the streets they call it murder."
Reply
46. Dante Acosta
"Merther"
Reply
46. Corey Hall
"+Mauricio Coombs you sir, see wrong. Look up the word merther or murther"
Reply
47. Mauricio Coombs
"1st im jamaican so i understand what he says. 2nd why would he say murther if he is talking about crime and violence? do you even understand the words to the song?"
Reply
49. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs I understand what you are saying, but if he is sampling Ini Kamoze's world a music, which I assume uses murther, wouldn't that make the lyric murther in Damian ' s track?"
Reply
49. acidbubblebath77
"Let me ask you this instead. What is the consensus with Jamicans? I'm not worried either way, I'm more or less curious. Thanx man."
Reply
50. Mauricio Coombs
"Im afraid i dont understand what you mean."
Reply
51. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs Sorry, I know that was confusing. Let me ask it this way. Is it generally accepted among Jamaicans that he is saying "murder" and not "murthur?"
It is interesting that there seems to be a lot of confusion with what people believe he is saying. Again, it's probably being blown out of proportion here but I just want to know what yours and your fellow countrymen's perspective is and I'll leave it at that."
Reply
52. Corey Hall
"+acidbubblebath77 thank you"
Reply
53. Mauricio Coombs
"All jamaicans know its muder. Murther is more of a good Vibes. and because it is sampled from ini kamoze song sly and robbie (the creators of the riddim) could just refix it."
**
54. Davin Marec “Black Hawk” PC 4101 Ace
"Murder I think"
Reply
55. acidbubblebath77
"+Mauricio Coombs Wow, I didn't know that was sly and robbie riddim! Shit, I wouldn't have known that. Thanks bro!"
Reply
56. Mauricio Coombs
"haha np."
-snip-
“np” probably means “no problem”.
**
2015
57. barzy qasim
"VEVO is run by soccer moms dude."
Reply
58. Travis Hunt
"+barzy qasim haha!"
**
59. Richard Endler
"Why censored hip hop and reggae lyrics?? this just destroys good songs...."
**
60. Rob Tarry
"What a waste of productive time censoring this song. What's so bad about saying ganja?"
**
61. Hari Iyer
"Vevo can you please upload a non bs version?"
**
62. Riaan van der Merwe
"well done you freakon ruined this track...thank youtube...pffft......#useless"
**
63. TomThe Üpsilonn
"Babylon has essentially hidden the message, with these bloody censors! But anyway this is a fantastic song!"
-snip-
"Babylon" is a Rastafarian term that means "the evil government".
**
64. Aaron Cannon (cp3o)
"they only censor music to control and take away from peoples creativity not cool though"
****
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Visitor comments are welcome.
Friday, February 28, 2014
Bioshock 2 & Bessie Smith's "Nobody Loves You When You're Down And Out"
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post presents a sample of comments that mention Bioshock 2 that were posted to the discussion thread of a video of Bessie Smith's 1929 rendition of a Blues song. That song, "Nobody Loves You When You're Down And Out", was included in the Bioshock 2 video game.
This video is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes. These comments are presented for cultural and sociological purposes. Read more about my reasons for showcasing these comments in the section below.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Bessie Smith for this powerful song. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
****
SHOWCASE VIDEO: Bessie Smith (Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out, 1929) Jazz Legend
RagtimeDorianHenry, Uploaded on Jun 4, 2009
Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out (1929)
-snip-
Click http://www.pbs.org/jazz/biography/artist_id_smith_bessie.htm for information about Bessie Smith (1894-1937)
****
GENERAL OVERVIEW ABOUT YOUTUBE COMMENT THREADS AND YOUTUBE COMMENTS
It's my position that certain YouTube video viewer comments can be considered cultural artifacts that can provide information about a particular subject or subjects and/or reveal societal attitudes about people, places, or things. Presenting a sample of YouTube comments from the same viewer comment thread can give a sense of some of the ways that interactions occur on YouTube comment threads. YouTube viewer comments also demonstrate the ways that language is used -including the use of slang and text talk - and the customs that people use in self-selecting internet user names. Because I take a folkloric approach in editing pancocojams, a number of pancocojams blog posts include selected examples of YouTube comments about its featured videos. In addition, a few pancocojams posts focus on particular categories of user names that YouTube commenters give themselves.
However, the way that YouTube comments are presented makes responses to comments and conversations between commenters difficult to follow. In large part this is because comments are usually posted in descending order with the newest comments posted first. As a result, when reading the comment thread from top to bottom which is the usual way that threads are read, comments written in response to a particular comment are often found before that comment. One way that a response to a comment is identified is when the responder begins his or her comment with "@ ____ [the name of the person who wrote the comment which is being responded to]. However, some responders don't use that format. Adding to the possibility for confusion in reading YouTube video comments is the fact that some commenter’s names have changed because of YouTube’s promotion of people using their real names instead of screen names. Consequently, some responses to comments refer to the original commenter's screen name instead of the person's "real name". It also appears that some commenters have exchanged one "made up" user name for another "made up" user name. Furthermore, YouTube has changed their viewer comment format, deleting the "like" and "dislike" options (around the end of 2013), but those options are still mentioned in older comments.
It should also be said that a major problem with many YouTube viewer comment threads (including this showcased video's comment threads) is that a number of the comments include profanity. Readers of many YouTube viewer comment threads should also be advised that those threads may contain racist language, homophobic language, sexual explicit content and other objectionable content.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPILATION
The viewer comment thread for the video "Bessie Smith (Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out, 1929) Jazz Legend" is found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MzU8xM99Uo
As of 11:50 AM. Feb 28, 2014 there were 985 comments. At least ½ of the comments refer to Bioshock 2, Bioshock, some other specific videogame, or videogames in general.
These selected comments are grouped by the year that they were posted on YouTube, with the oldest comments presented first (along with any comments that are or appear to be posted in response to that comment). However, with the exception of that sub-group, these comments aren't presented in any consecutive order. In some cases, responding comments are given without the comment that they respond to.
The only examples of profanity that I include in the comments in this compilation is what I consider to be the mild profanity "damn", "ass", and "hell". Other examples of profanity within these comments are represented by the phrase in brackets "profanity deleted"].
These comments are numbered for references purposes only and are given as is without any editorial comments.
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SELECTED COMMENTS
2009
1. anthonyvvs
lol I heard of her from Bioshock 2 as well... Funny how a good video game can make someone so much more popular and bring their works back to the current times (more than it already is, of course)
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2. fiury5i
people who havent played the first bioshock loves bioshock 2, however people who played first one dont find the sequal at the same level as the first one
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3. fiury5i
people who havent played the first bioshock loves bioshock 2, however people who played first one dont find the sequal at the same level as the first one
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4. Raphael Stoker
Oh Bioshock 2 brought me here, but Bessie Smith kept me here. People need to realise that some 'games', such as bioshock and L.A Noire, should be held in as high regard as some films. It's art. Sorry to change the subject, this song really is lovely.
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2010
5. jackram2h2
in reply to Shelly Wilkinson
@shellybelly2895 Bioshock is a an extremely good first person shooter.It takes place in the under sea city called rapture.Thats another story....But the reason why people are commenting about Bioshock is because it takes place in The 50's and 60's and on each loading before the level begins the play these types of songs.This one specifically.They also have old record players lying around playing this music.It's games like Bioshock that got me to like this music :)
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6. Fernando Blake
Thanks bioshock thanks 4 show me this amazing music :D
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7. Craziness714
Thanks Bioshock and Fallout, for introducing to some amazing music I wouldn't have listened to otherwise. =)
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8. Nunya DirtySanchez
Youre a DAM FOOL if Bioshock brought your young ass here and you should be ashamed..now that youve learned.. go teach your friends :D
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9. Justin Huffman
Warning: if you actually purchase the Bioschock 2 Sountrack, this song IS NOT there... i don't get it. They do include the second best song: the trouble with me is you, though. I downloaded it just for this song and it's not there... [profanity deleted]??
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10. sagat4
It is possible that game developers are trying to rekindle interest in these great lost songs. I play games occasionally and have never heard good music like this. I know my stuff but life is a learning experience:)
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11. samtheposter
in reply to WEJIRC
@WEJIRC Hi there, the music was used as a loading screen for Bioshock 2. The game itself is excellent and the way the music compliments the theme of the game is superb. In many ways it has brought back quite a few older songs into todays lifestyle and a lot of gamers will never forget the music now. I myself have searched youtube for all of the songs from the game and have stumbled on some real legends :-)
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12. Emma Pinkney
this song makes me want to play bioshock 2 all day!!
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13. Phazonin
Her voice is incredible. So powerful... thank you Bioshock 2 loading screen.
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14. thecatman00
in reply to Phazonin
@Phazonin It's incredible the way you can cultivate good art to help make other good art, I am especially impressed by said connection between blues and videogames
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15. thedogisoflove
I love this dang stupid song. I of course first heard it on Bioshock 2. For a minute, I was like: "Is that Billy Holiday?" Then I thought, "Nooooooo! That's definately not her." Now I know who it is! I love it if you let Grace live, and you go back down to the last floor to gather Adam, you can hear Grace singing this song over the PA too.
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16. Justin Huffman
this is Grace Holloway not Bessie Smith
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17. tjovaughn
in reply to Justin Huffman
@aspacelot ....grace holloway is a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. Bessie Smith is REAL. got it? eh? not so hard to figure out smart-[profanity deleted]. gawd.
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18. TGCVugi
iwe heard this song @ my friend, his kid played bioshock 2,, and i will tell you something, it's so damn true, this song touches me in the heart!
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19. F14ace
6 people have no musical taste whatsoever. This song is great for BioShock because it basically describes the story of Rapture. Well, except for the genetically spliced nutjobs running around everywhere. There is also a good lesson to be learned from this song.
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20. jackram2h2
in reply to Shelly Wilkinson
@shellybelly2895 Bioshock is a an extremely good first person shooter.It takes place in the under sea city called rapture.Thats another story....But the reason why people are commenting about Bioshock is because it takes place in The 50's and 60's and on each loading before the level begins the play these types of songs.This one specifically.They also have old record players lying around playing this music.It's games like Bioshock that got me to like this music :)
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2011
James Last
in reply to khal eesi
@jujabyummy bioshock is a game based in the 20's-30's i think. its not to bad kinda intence at points though
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21. Bonbeck100
Thumbs up if you're here not because of bisoshock, just because you love Bessie Smith
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22. 420Cannabis
why are you guys so proud of needing a video game to discover good music?
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23. Dee Lazarus
Personally, I have no idea what 'Bioshock' is, nor do I care to discover. I think it's great that peoples end up here listening to this, regardless of the source of their original interest, but I would query why these same folks have this burning need to proclaim "The Simpsons brought me here!!!" and then say nothing of the singer and song. Come on guys and gals - can and should do better. Best wishes for the future, PP. x
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24. alen mathew
thumbs up if [profanity deleted] bioshock DIDNT bring you here..and you have REAL taste in music..
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25. Skirlasvoud
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 Oi! How's real taste in music defined by the way it came to you? :P Maybe the makers of Bioshock had enough taste to select this particular piece for their game, making it a real tasteful game? Let's reach a middleground after I bought a CD with this stuff, THANKS to Bioshock: We BOTH love this music and at least we're nog listening to Carla Bruni.
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26. 0m
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 who cares whether or not bioshock turned people onto this music or not? (a) that's beside the point, because the music's still lovely, and (b) if a modern classic sci-fi/horror story can instill interest in this music for new generations, where's the harm in that? you ever played the bioshock games? because not only are they super fun to play, the plots are unbelievably genius. it's genuine storytelling up there with huxley, bradbury and their ilk. don't hate. bioshock rules. :-P
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27. Cleaver Mama
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 Why does Bioshock bringing someone here mean that they don't have a 'real' taste in music? Shouldn't you be happy that they know about the song at all, and are giving a talented artist the recognition she deserves, rather than worrying about how they found the song?
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28. Cyconik
Music like this needs to be spread. If its being spread to youth by a video game, so be it. I actually just happened across this song. I didn't know it was in Bioshock, but I've played it before too. Come on people, as long as its being spread, its being spread!
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29. Raphael Stoker
Oh Bioshock 2 brought me here, but Bessie Smith kept me here. People need to realise that some 'games', such as bioshock and L.A Noire, should be held in as high regard as some films. It's art. Sorry to change the subject, this song really is lovely.
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30. Stephenthecupcake101
in reply to Raphael Stoker
@AstinTheDawg same here, that was my favorite level in bioshock2. Loved the idea of a gehto in Rapture, now I love this music, gotta get some of her stuff. Back when music had meaning in the words.
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31. Stephenthecupcake101
in reply to khal eesi
@jujabyummy Best game of 2007. But this is from the sequal. The game was about an underwater city that was supposed to be absent in government, but went to hell. One hell of a good story, I highly recomend it.
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32. sonicscreamingblue
What the [profanity deleted] is Bioshock and why do people keep alluding to it on a blues video?
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33. HERBLANDZ
in reply to sonicscreamingblue
@sonicscreamingblue a video game that plays that palys 20 and 30s music while u kill people underwater or some [profanity deleted] i never liked that game but its pretty huge in sales
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34. ReptilianWhisperer
I played Bioshock and it did not bring me here, but I still ended up here. I guess I just got lucky. Legendary voice...Miss Bessie Smith
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35. Ray De La Peña
it shouldn't matter where people get their music source, as long as they listen and like it at some point in time.. i think.
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36. drivenedge007
but you have to admit,younger folks would not get any exposure to "real" music if it weren't for those video games......good music at any means necessary...
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37. kwilli93
Thumbs up if you're happy Bioshock educated thousands of gamers to Bessie Smiths greatness.
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38. Wafflehaus
I don't care if it took a video game to bring you here.. if you enjoy the song that's good enough in my book. Hopefully the song can spark an interest in blues/jazz history.
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39. Reverb Twang
idk what bioshock is but welcome to the world of Bessie Smith !!!!!
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40. PunkRockFreak09
in reply to Reverb Twang
@moondog50002000 It's a video game that takes place in about 1960's and plays this kind of music. In fact Bioshock notorious for using music like Bessie's. I'll say Bioshock did not bring me here, which is odd because I played it before I discovered Bessie, but it is a good game to find good music. Hell I wouldn't never even thought of this music before it.
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41. Riitzni
lol'ing at people looking down their nose at games. For those of you oblivious to society, some games introduce songs like this to people that would otherwise never hear them. That's more than most of you sitting on your computers whining about it can say. I understand though that having a person or radio bring you this song is a far better way to hear about it. Oh wait, it's the same. Idiots.
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42. cwcwful
in reply to Nathan Sanchez [posted in 2012]
@thesickdancer I am not asking to be a jerk, but what is Bioshock? Just curious. For what it's worth, I promise not to get involved in the debate.
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43. Dattebayo04 [posted in 2012]
in reply to cwcwful
Bioshock is a popular steampunk video game
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44. Nozomi
I'm sad that this song wasn't on the Bioshock 2 official soundtrack. It took me a while to find it.
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2012
45. Shishio Makoto
Merci Bioshock pour m'avoir fait découvrir cette artiste! Un jeu magnifique pour une chanteuse magnifique!
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FunkyTownGhost
46. I was listened this song on Bioshock 2. It's "Pauper's Drop's" theme music. These words, this voice... I'm really, really love that angel voice- women...
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47. 63toes
I don't care where you from, what brought you here, or where you going. Let's just enjoy this sweet sad music
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48. buttercupfirefly
hearing this song or any other song does from a video game or tv show does not make you any less "with it" cool or intelligent then someone who was brought up listening to it. Everyones music taste is due to outside influence- media, family or seeking it out yourself. I just think that people who say "i knew this before Bioshock" really need to get a life
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49. jasonvoorhees12345
If I lived in rapture. I would have gone down to just hear her sing everyday
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2013
50. gun1987gunn
It doesn't matter if people heard this on Bioshock and love it. Let them appreciate a great song. Game developers introducing the younger generation to old classics is a good thing. Stop you moaning and let everyone enjoy the song.
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51. gnarles trevor
I didn't realize that I absolutely love listening to music like this until I played Bioshock haha
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52. TearShatter
Bioshock <3 Introduced me to so much great older music.
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53. Zé Maconha
in reply to TearShatter
When this song played, I used to wait and stare at the loading screen until the end of the song
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2014
54. Juan Vazquez
Thank you bioshock 2 for introducing me to this amazing voice
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55. mondenkindqueen
Me too. I know some folks will get on to you for that, but people shouldn't care how a fellow fan is introduced to a great artist. If it weren't for Bioshock 2, I'd be missing out on this blues legend.
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This post presents a sample of comments that mention Bioshock 2 that were posted to the discussion thread of a video of Bessie Smith's 1929 rendition of a Blues song. That song, "Nobody Loves You When You're Down And Out", was included in the Bioshock 2 video game.
This video is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes. These comments are presented for cultural and sociological purposes. Read more about my reasons for showcasing these comments in the section below.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Bessie Smith for this powerful song. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Bessie Smith (Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out, 1929) Jazz Legend
RagtimeDorianHenry, Uploaded on Jun 4, 2009
Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out (1929)
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Click http://www.pbs.org/jazz/biography/artist_id_smith_bessie.htm for information about Bessie Smith (1894-1937)
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GENERAL OVERVIEW ABOUT YOUTUBE COMMENT THREADS AND YOUTUBE COMMENTS
It's my position that certain YouTube video viewer comments can be considered cultural artifacts that can provide information about a particular subject or subjects and/or reveal societal attitudes about people, places, or things. Presenting a sample of YouTube comments from the same viewer comment thread can give a sense of some of the ways that interactions occur on YouTube comment threads. YouTube viewer comments also demonstrate the ways that language is used -including the use of slang and text talk - and the customs that people use in self-selecting internet user names. Because I take a folkloric approach in editing pancocojams, a number of pancocojams blog posts include selected examples of YouTube comments about its featured videos. In addition, a few pancocojams posts focus on particular categories of user names that YouTube commenters give themselves.
However, the way that YouTube comments are presented makes responses to comments and conversations between commenters difficult to follow. In large part this is because comments are usually posted in descending order with the newest comments posted first. As a result, when reading the comment thread from top to bottom which is the usual way that threads are read, comments written in response to a particular comment are often found before that comment. One way that a response to a comment is identified is when the responder begins his or her comment with "@ ____ [the name of the person who wrote the comment which is being responded to]. However, some responders don't use that format. Adding to the possibility for confusion in reading YouTube video comments is the fact that some commenter’s names have changed because of YouTube’s promotion of people using their real names instead of screen names. Consequently, some responses to comments refer to the original commenter's screen name instead of the person's "real name". It also appears that some commenters have exchanged one "made up" user name for another "made up" user name. Furthermore, YouTube has changed their viewer comment format, deleting the "like" and "dislike" options (around the end of 2013), but those options are still mentioned in older comments.
It should also be said that a major problem with many YouTube viewer comment threads (including this showcased video's comment threads) is that a number of the comments include profanity. Readers of many YouTube viewer comment threads should also be advised that those threads may contain racist language, homophobic language, sexual explicit content and other objectionable content.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR COMPILATION
The viewer comment thread for the video "Bessie Smith (Nobody Knows You When You're Down And Out, 1929) Jazz Legend" is found at http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MzU8xM99Uo
As of 11:50 AM. Feb 28, 2014 there were 985 comments. At least ½ of the comments refer to Bioshock 2, Bioshock, some other specific videogame, or videogames in general.
These selected comments are grouped by the year that they were posted on YouTube, with the oldest comments presented first (along with any comments that are or appear to be posted in response to that comment). However, with the exception of that sub-group, these comments aren't presented in any consecutive order. In some cases, responding comments are given without the comment that they respond to.
The only examples of profanity that I include in the comments in this compilation is what I consider to be the mild profanity "damn", "ass", and "hell". Other examples of profanity within these comments are represented by the phrase in brackets "profanity deleted"].
These comments are numbered for references purposes only and are given as is without any editorial comments.
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SELECTED COMMENTS
2009
1. anthonyvvs
lol I heard of her from Bioshock 2 as well... Funny how a good video game can make someone so much more popular and bring their works back to the current times (more than it already is, of course)
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2. fiury5i
people who havent played the first bioshock loves bioshock 2, however people who played first one dont find the sequal at the same level as the first one
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3. fiury5i
people who havent played the first bioshock loves bioshock 2, however people who played first one dont find the sequal at the same level as the first one
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4. Raphael Stoker
Oh Bioshock 2 brought me here, but Bessie Smith kept me here. People need to realise that some 'games', such as bioshock and L.A Noire, should be held in as high regard as some films. It's art. Sorry to change the subject, this song really is lovely.
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2010
5. jackram2h2
in reply to Shelly Wilkinson
@shellybelly2895 Bioshock is a an extremely good first person shooter.It takes place in the under sea city called rapture.Thats another story....But the reason why people are commenting about Bioshock is because it takes place in The 50's and 60's and on each loading before the level begins the play these types of songs.This one specifically.They also have old record players lying around playing this music.It's games like Bioshock that got me to like this music :)
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6. Fernando Blake
Thanks bioshock thanks 4 show me this amazing music :D
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7. Craziness714
Thanks Bioshock and Fallout, for introducing to some amazing music I wouldn't have listened to otherwise. =)
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8. Nunya DirtySanchez
Youre a DAM FOOL if Bioshock brought your young ass here and you should be ashamed..now that youve learned.. go teach your friends :D
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9. Justin Huffman
Warning: if you actually purchase the Bioschock 2 Sountrack, this song IS NOT there... i don't get it. They do include the second best song: the trouble with me is you, though. I downloaded it just for this song and it's not there... [profanity deleted]??
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10. sagat4
It is possible that game developers are trying to rekindle interest in these great lost songs. I play games occasionally and have never heard good music like this. I know my stuff but life is a learning experience:)
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11. samtheposter
in reply to WEJIRC
@WEJIRC Hi there, the music was used as a loading screen for Bioshock 2. The game itself is excellent and the way the music compliments the theme of the game is superb. In many ways it has brought back quite a few older songs into todays lifestyle and a lot of gamers will never forget the music now. I myself have searched youtube for all of the songs from the game and have stumbled on some real legends :-)
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12. Emma Pinkney
this song makes me want to play bioshock 2 all day!!
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13. Phazonin
Her voice is incredible. So powerful... thank you Bioshock 2 loading screen.
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14. thecatman00
in reply to Phazonin
@Phazonin It's incredible the way you can cultivate good art to help make other good art, I am especially impressed by said connection between blues and videogames
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15. thedogisoflove
I love this dang stupid song. I of course first heard it on Bioshock 2. For a minute, I was like: "Is that Billy Holiday?" Then I thought, "Nooooooo! That's definately not her." Now I know who it is! I love it if you let Grace live, and you go back down to the last floor to gather Adam, you can hear Grace singing this song over the PA too.
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16. Justin Huffman
this is Grace Holloway not Bessie Smith
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17. tjovaughn
in reply to Justin Huffman
@aspacelot ....grace holloway is a VIDEO GAME CHARACTER. Bessie Smith is REAL. got it? eh? not so hard to figure out smart-[profanity deleted]. gawd.
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18. TGCVugi
iwe heard this song @ my friend, his kid played bioshock 2,, and i will tell you something, it's so damn true, this song touches me in the heart!
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19. F14ace
6 people have no musical taste whatsoever. This song is great for BioShock because it basically describes the story of Rapture. Well, except for the genetically spliced nutjobs running around everywhere. There is also a good lesson to be learned from this song.
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20. jackram2h2
in reply to Shelly Wilkinson
@shellybelly2895 Bioshock is a an extremely good first person shooter.It takes place in the under sea city called rapture.Thats another story....But the reason why people are commenting about Bioshock is because it takes place in The 50's and 60's and on each loading before the level begins the play these types of songs.This one specifically.They also have old record players lying around playing this music.It's games like Bioshock that got me to like this music :)
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2011
James Last
in reply to khal eesi
@jujabyummy bioshock is a game based in the 20's-30's i think. its not to bad kinda intence at points though
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21. Bonbeck100
Thumbs up if you're here not because of bisoshock, just because you love Bessie Smith
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22. 420Cannabis
why are you guys so proud of needing a video game to discover good music?
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23. Dee Lazarus
Personally, I have no idea what 'Bioshock' is, nor do I care to discover. I think it's great that peoples end up here listening to this, regardless of the source of their original interest, but I would query why these same folks have this burning need to proclaim "The Simpsons brought me here!!!" and then say nothing of the singer and song. Come on guys and gals - can and should do better. Best wishes for the future, PP. x
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24. alen mathew
thumbs up if [profanity deleted] bioshock DIDNT bring you here..and you have REAL taste in music..
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25. Skirlasvoud
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 Oi! How's real taste in music defined by the way it came to you? :P Maybe the makers of Bioshock had enough taste to select this particular piece for their game, making it a real tasteful game? Let's reach a middleground after I bought a CD with this stuff, THANKS to Bioshock: We BOTH love this music and at least we're nog listening to Carla Bruni.
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26. 0m
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 who cares whether or not bioshock turned people onto this music or not? (a) that's beside the point, because the music's still lovely, and (b) if a modern classic sci-fi/horror story can instill interest in this music for new generations, where's the harm in that? you ever played the bioshock games? because not only are they super fun to play, the plots are unbelievably genius. it's genuine storytelling up there with huxley, bradbury and their ilk. don't hate. bioshock rules. :-P
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27. Cleaver Mama
in reply to alen mathew
@amathew711 Why does Bioshock bringing someone here mean that they don't have a 'real' taste in music? Shouldn't you be happy that they know about the song at all, and are giving a talented artist the recognition she deserves, rather than worrying about how they found the song?
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28. Cyconik
Music like this needs to be spread. If its being spread to youth by a video game, so be it. I actually just happened across this song. I didn't know it was in Bioshock, but I've played it before too. Come on people, as long as its being spread, its being spread!
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29. Raphael Stoker
Oh Bioshock 2 brought me here, but Bessie Smith kept me here. People need to realise that some 'games', such as bioshock and L.A Noire, should be held in as high regard as some films. It's art. Sorry to change the subject, this song really is lovely.
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30. Stephenthecupcake101
in reply to Raphael Stoker
@AstinTheDawg same here, that was my favorite level in bioshock2. Loved the idea of a gehto in Rapture, now I love this music, gotta get some of her stuff. Back when music had meaning in the words.
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31. Stephenthecupcake101
in reply to khal eesi
@jujabyummy Best game of 2007. But this is from the sequal. The game was about an underwater city that was supposed to be absent in government, but went to hell. One hell of a good story, I highly recomend it.
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32. sonicscreamingblue
What the [profanity deleted] is Bioshock and why do people keep alluding to it on a blues video?
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33. HERBLANDZ
in reply to sonicscreamingblue
@sonicscreamingblue a video game that plays that palys 20 and 30s music while u kill people underwater or some [profanity deleted] i never liked that game but its pretty huge in sales
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34. ReptilianWhisperer
I played Bioshock and it did not bring me here, but I still ended up here. I guess I just got lucky. Legendary voice...Miss Bessie Smith
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35. Ray De La Peña
it shouldn't matter where people get their music source, as long as they listen and like it at some point in time.. i think.
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36. drivenedge007
but you have to admit,younger folks would not get any exposure to "real" music if it weren't for those video games......good music at any means necessary...
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37. kwilli93
Thumbs up if you're happy Bioshock educated thousands of gamers to Bessie Smiths greatness.
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38. Wafflehaus
I don't care if it took a video game to bring you here.. if you enjoy the song that's good enough in my book. Hopefully the song can spark an interest in blues/jazz history.
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39. Reverb Twang
idk what bioshock is but welcome to the world of Bessie Smith !!!!!
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40. PunkRockFreak09
in reply to Reverb Twang
@moondog50002000 It's a video game that takes place in about 1960's and plays this kind of music. In fact Bioshock notorious for using music like Bessie's. I'll say Bioshock did not bring me here, which is odd because I played it before I discovered Bessie, but it is a good game to find good music. Hell I wouldn't never even thought of this music before it.
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41. Riitzni
lol'ing at people looking down their nose at games. For those of you oblivious to society, some games introduce songs like this to people that would otherwise never hear them. That's more than most of you sitting on your computers whining about it can say. I understand though that having a person or radio bring you this song is a far better way to hear about it. Oh wait, it's the same. Idiots.
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42. cwcwful
in reply to Nathan Sanchez [posted in 2012]
@thesickdancer I am not asking to be a jerk, but what is Bioshock? Just curious. For what it's worth, I promise not to get involved in the debate.
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43. Dattebayo04 [posted in 2012]
in reply to cwcwful
Bioshock is a popular steampunk video game
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44. Nozomi
I'm sad that this song wasn't on the Bioshock 2 official soundtrack. It took me a while to find it.
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2012
45. Shishio Makoto
Merci Bioshock pour m'avoir fait découvrir cette artiste! Un jeu magnifique pour une chanteuse magnifique!
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FunkyTownGhost
46. I was listened this song on Bioshock 2. It's "Pauper's Drop's" theme music. These words, this voice... I'm really, really love that angel voice- women...
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47. 63toes
I don't care where you from, what brought you here, or where you going. Let's just enjoy this sweet sad music
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48. buttercupfirefly
hearing this song or any other song does from a video game or tv show does not make you any less "with it" cool or intelligent then someone who was brought up listening to it. Everyones music taste is due to outside influence- media, family or seeking it out yourself. I just think that people who say "i knew this before Bioshock" really need to get a life
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49. jasonvoorhees12345
If I lived in rapture. I would have gone down to just hear her sing everyday
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2013
50. gun1987gunn
It doesn't matter if people heard this on Bioshock and love it. Let them appreciate a great song. Game developers introducing the younger generation to old classics is a good thing. Stop you moaning and let everyone enjoy the song.
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51. gnarles trevor
I didn't realize that I absolutely love listening to music like this until I played Bioshock haha
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52. TearShatter
Bioshock <3 Introduced me to so much great older music.
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53. Zé Maconha
in reply to TearShatter
When this song played, I used to wait and stare at the loading screen until the end of the song
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2014
54. Juan Vazquez
Thank you bioshock 2 for introducing me to this amazing voice
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55. mondenkindqueen
Me too. I know some folks will get on to you for that, but people shouldn't care how a fellow fan is introduced to a great artist. If it weren't for Bioshock 2, I'd be missing out on this blues legend.
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Thursday, March 14, 2013
Funky Y2C (African American Vernacular English In YouTube Comment Thread)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post is Part I in a three part series of posts on the "Funky Y2C" (Hey Little Mama) record. This post presents selected comments from this video's viewer comment thread and, as such, is part of an ongoing pancocojams series that documents the use of African American Vernacular English in certain YouTube comment threads.
UPDATE: March 29, 2015 - The account for the video/discussion thread that was used for this post has been withdrawn. Consequently, I posted another video of the "Hey little Mama" and retained the selected comments that are found in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-real-lyrics-to-hey-little-mama.html for Part II of this series.
Part II provides my transcription of the lyrics for the song "Funky Y2C".
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-meanings-of-lyrics-to-hey-little.html for Part III of this series.
Part III provides my interpretation of certain lines from the song "Funky Y2C".
The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, and cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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FEATURED VIDEO: dj nadinho funk the puppies hey lil mama funky y2c
nadinho vieiraPublished on Feb 5, 2013
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EDITORIAL COMMENT & DISCLAIMER
While some of the comments that are presented below feature the use of African American Vernacular English grammar, many more of these comments feature African American slang, and/or alternative spelling that I believe are closely associated with and/or closely influenced by Hip-Hop culture.
It's my theory that this contemporary form of African American Vernacular English that I've described above is used on purpose. This conscious code switching from Standard American English African American Vernacular English is in contrast to the belief that people use African American English grammar and alternative spellings that are part of African American English because those people don't know the standard American English spelling or the Standard English words.
I believe that the primary reason for using the type of African American English that is found in most of these comments is to signal to other commenters or readers that you are "hip" (with the word "hip" here meaning "up to date" with the latest Black street culture).*
Another reason for commenters knowingly using the type of African American Vernacular English that is found in this YouTube comment thread, and in other YouTube comment threads, is that the person writing the comment wants to signal to other readers & other commenters that she or he is Black. However, that reason may not be as pertinent now because an increasing number of YouTube commenters have added a photograph of themselves as an icon which is posted in front of their comment. Therefore, presumably, a commenter's photograph could be used to determine his or her race. Admittedly, every person belonging to a particular race doesn't fit the physical images that that society has for members of that race. Also, I believe that people can belong to more than one race. That said, I still believe that it's still easier for people to identify a commenter as Black or as White now that YouTube commenter photographs are being used than it was before that time.
*I'm not a linguist, but I would categorize the majority of the comments that I have selected from this viewer comment as being representative of what I call "contemporary" (or "Hip Hop") African American English. There is also one comment below that includes an example of what I call 20th century Southern African American English (such as "I'm not finna") which I believe is the same as "not fixing to" (not getting ready to).
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-online-black-talk-code.html for more of my comments about what I call "putting on the Black", the purposeful use of African American English in YouTube comment threads.
DISCLAIMER
As mentioned above, I'm not a linguist, nor did I play one on tv (inside American joke).
This post is not meant to be a comprehensive listing of all the comments in this viewer comment thread that use African American vernacular English.
I want to be clear that don’t mean to imply that African American people are the only people using these terms. As is the case a part from the Internet, non-African American people-including non-Black people, also use African American vernacular. Given that fact, some of the commenters who are quoted in this post may be non-Black. Furthermore, some of the vernacular words & phrases that are used in these comments may not be of African American origin.
Also, although this video’s comment thread is full of comments on this issue, I’m not taking any position on whether this type of dancing was appropriate for children then or is appropriate for children now.
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SELECTED YOUTUBE VIEWER COMMENTS
These comments are from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY2FbveZ6Xw. [Inactive link for a withdrawn YouTube account]
The commenter's name is given first and is followed by the comment that he or she wrote. I‘ve also included what I believe is the Standard American English equivalent/s below the comment. I also included some additional information after a few examples.
WARNING: Many comments in this viewer comment thread are NSFWOCV (Not suitable for work or children's vieweing) because of profanity, racist, explicit sexual references, etc.
[2011]
notofdisworld78
I loved dis song when it came out, Lord I pray my Daughter never finds out bout dis song PLEASE LORD Dont let my Daughter dance funky like dis.
-snip-
"dis" = "this"
In the context of this sentence "dance funky" means "to dance in a sexually provocative way." But I don't think that's what the word "funky" in that title means. I think that "funky" in song title means that this song is spicy, exciting and not straightlaced or bland.
The "Y2C" in that title is a nod to the 1962 R&B song "Watusi" by the Orlons. In both those songs "Watusi" (Y2C) refers to the Watutsi (Tutsi) people of Central Africa. However, neither the song nor the dance movements have anything to do with the Tutsi ethnic group. I believe that that record title reflected the renewed interest in and appreciation of African culture that African Americans felt in the during the 1960s, in large part because at that time so many African nations were achieving their independence from European colonization.
"Funky Watusi" means that that old school song has been re-made with a funkier tempo.
When the crowd of children say that the girl [Little mama/Tamara] is so "funky and hot", both of those words are compliments that mean that they really like the way she looks - both her physical appearance and her style of dressing.
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mrsboone26
I'm almost 25 and if my mamma saw me dancing like this today she would still whoop my butt!!!lol
-snip-
"whoop my butt" means "to give me a spanking on my backside".
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blkcoverboy
oooh u so hot...GUUUUUUUUUuuurl u need to stop"....CLASSIC! lol
-snip-
In this sentence "hot" here = "very physically appealing".
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slimcola21
Hilarious. This song and vid still cracks me up. The 90's was a colorful era. I remember having similar jumpsuits and outfits like the ones in this vid. LOL
-snip-
"cracks me up" = "makes me laugh"
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Jasmine Carter
hahaha omg im 20 now and I remember me and my brother used to absoultly JAM to this song.. couldn't tell us nothing
-snip-
"Jam to this song = "dance to this song"
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SWAGTVOFMEMPHIS
This is whats wrong with our youth smh
-snip-
"smh" (or SMH) = "shake my head", a body gesture by shaking the head back & forth which signals that the person making the gesture is disdainful, annoyed, aggravated, disappointed, and/or disapproves of something said or done, or of some person or persons. Sometimes the actual action isn't done. Instead, the person writing this may just want to register his or her feelings about the matter or about the person. Particularly in the Caribbean, smh can be combined with the sound & motion of "suck teeth" (kiss teeth).
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BlackDymond927
remember back then when we use to b on d blk dancin like that n ya mama would catch u dancin like that n she'll drag u by ya shirt and say "get ya lil ass up stairs u think u grown..." lol d good old days
-snip-
I think that "b on d" means "to be on down"
"n" means "and'
"d good old days" means "the good old days"
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mzladykiki11
man i love dis video and song so for all da haters yall need to back back y y
-snip-
"da" = "the"
"haters" - people who "hate on" (dislike, insult, think negatively about and/or try to impede the actions of) someone or a group of people because of jealously or for no discernable reason
"y y" - I'm unsure what this means
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missresecup
lol, even though this song is so wrong......lol....i remember this song and i loved it..right now i am just laughing...i am not finna look deeper into this song which some people are trying to make it, when all on the television that got shows of young people getting pregnant and being fast and they win awards so whatever, enjoy the darn video and laugh a lil.
-snip-
"finna" = "fixing to" which means "getting ready to" do something:
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RBarr123
OMG this was my jam lol this brings back memories
-snip-
"this is my jam" = this is my favorite song. A Caribbean way of saying the same thing is "Tune!" (or "Chune!").
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Dizzle101d
nowadayz people would trip on this cuz thats the first thing that comes to people sick mind but when you grew up to this it was all fun and this came out along time ago. its just a dance but better than having miley cyrus as a teen idol dont ya think
-snip-
“trip on this” – would get upset about this. Another way of saying this is that "people would get on a set about this" [on a set=upset], or people "would get all bent out of shape about this."
Also, notice the lack of capitol letter in this example and the fact that punctuation is hardly used. And notice that "z" are used in place of the “s”. All of these are commonly found in Internet writing and in text messaging. These writing styles may be done to because speed is more important on the internet & in texting than grammatical rules. They may also be done because such styles of writing signal that you are "hip".
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othamama
U r so rite.. i was out durr doin all of dat.. LOL! aint nothin like dat ole skool music.
-snip-
“You are so right. I was out doors doing all of that. Laugh out loud! [There’s] nothing like that music from long ago.
-snip-
Also notice this commenter’s user name: “otha” = “other”.
Additional comments about how African Americans use “little mama” as a referent for girls as young as toddlers can be found in Part II of this Y2c series.
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MsVA757
This was my joint back in the day. LOL
-snip-
“joint”= same as “jam” – favorite song
The Caribbean terms “tune”, “chune” have the same meaning.
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afrobeauty08
lol i feel you. good old days
[“I feel you” – I agree with you. Technically means I feel just how you feel]
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TheLesh83
I still love this song. i dont care how old i am. this was it back in the day. (80's baby)
-snip-
"this was it" = this was the most popular song or the song that everyone danced to
"back in the day" means the same thing as "way back then" or "in the olden days".
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miamivicepastels83
i still have this on tape single....they are killin it lol
[“killin it” = dancing really good]; “breakin it down” - taking something down to its very essence, would result in that thing dying, this may be where the phrase “killin it came from.
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Kaitlyn johnson
ahahah why.. i fell you but i dont..theres a time and place for everthing....like at a play ground unexceptable depending on the situation ...feel me..at home by nherself in her room or gettin crunk wit mom its cool as loing der aint no lil boy behind her we all cool
-snip-
"feel me" - agree with me (technically "feel the same way I'm feeling"
In the context of this comment, I think that "getting crunk" means "partying" & dancing wildly
My translation of this comment to Standard American English:
[Laughter]. Why? I agree with some of what you wrote but not all of it. There’s a time and a place for everything. A playground is an unacceptable place to be dancing like that. Hear what I’m saying. At home by herself in her room, or partying and dancing with her moon, that type of dancing would be alright as long as there’s not any boy behind her, everything’s fine.
-snip-
Another way of saying “we all cool” is in the context of this sentence is “It’s all good”.
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shortaye99
OMG I have this on my IPOD it is my JAMMMMMMMMM!!! OOhhh I'm so funky and hot...I used to kill this!! LOL
-snip-
"kill this" – dance really well to this record
-snip-
The name ‘shortaye” may be a form of the word “shorty”. "Shorty" is an affectionate African American general referent for children.
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[2012]
ccosten28
Yo this is just what is was back then. Miami was booty shake central....i mean this was the same era of Luke. And the kids were going to do it anyway so why not make something they could really dance to instead of letting them listen to 2 live Crew. the song is fun....booty shakin is a type of dance please know everybody cant do it.
-snip-
In the context of this sentence “Yo” means “Hey” and/or “Listen up”.
“booty shake central" = the main location in the nation where Black people were known for doing butt shaking dances. That was in contrast to other parts of the United States, for instance, Chicago where Black people were [are still] known for dances which emphasize fast foot work dance.
"Luke" refers to Luke Campbell, the manager & lead vocalist in the Hip-Hop group, 2 Live Crew ("too live [rhymes with hive] crew" is African American Vernacular English for "a group of people who are hyped {full of energy}". 2 Live Crew was known for records with very sexually explicit themes. Several commenters wrote that Luke Campbell is the uncle of the duo that made up the Puppies (Calvin "Big Boy" Mills & Tamara "Dee" Mills).
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Luke Bosco
Am i the only that thinks this is dope? lol the beat is fire and the flow is hype. theyre just shakin their lil behinds. they're not wearing thongs or anything. chill out everyone. this is fun.
-snip-
In the context of this sentence, "dope" = really very good
In the context of this sentence "hype" = exciting, very good
"Chill out" = "relax"
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papigrandeful
lol so old skool
-snip-
so old skool = so old school means "this was a hit song a while ago. ("old school" is usually a compliment.)
[2013]
miss10baby
luv dis song
-snip-
"luv" is a Hip Hop spelling for "love"
-snip-
ZERBA66
girl this song is so ghetto
-snip-
"girl" is a general referent for females.
"So ghetto" means so lower class.
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mbur126
Memba thiz joint....oldy but a gudy
-snip-
My translation of this comment into Standard American English:
[I] remember this song... [It's an] oldy but a goody (it's a classic.)
ADDENDUM
Notice the various types of user names that are found in this post. Such made up user names are less often found on YouTube since June 2012 because of the strong suggestion YouTube administrators have made to commenters and uploaders to switch to their first & last names. Posts about YouTube user names can be found on this pancocojams blog and on my cocojams.com website.
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to the Puppies for this old school jam. Thanks also to the commenters for their comments. Thanks also to the uploader of this video.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Visitors comments are welcome.
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This post is Part I in a three part series of posts on the "Funky Y2C" (Hey Little Mama) record. This post presents selected comments from this video's viewer comment thread and, as such, is part of an ongoing pancocojams series that documents the use of African American Vernacular English in certain YouTube comment threads.
UPDATE: March 29, 2015 - The account for the video/discussion thread that was used for this post has been withdrawn. Consequently, I posted another video of the "Hey little Mama" and retained the selected comments that are found in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-real-lyrics-to-hey-little-mama.html for Part II of this series.
Part II provides my transcription of the lyrics for the song "Funky Y2C".
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/the-meanings-of-lyrics-to-hey-little.html for Part III of this series.
Part III provides my interpretation of certain lines from the song "Funky Y2C".
The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, and cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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FEATURED VIDEO: dj nadinho funk the puppies hey lil mama funky y2c
nadinho vieiraPublished on Feb 5, 2013
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EDITORIAL COMMENT & DISCLAIMER
While some of the comments that are presented below feature the use of African American Vernacular English grammar, many more of these comments feature African American slang, and/or alternative spelling that I believe are closely associated with and/or closely influenced by Hip-Hop culture.
It's my theory that this contemporary form of African American Vernacular English that I've described above is used on purpose. This conscious code switching from Standard American English African American Vernacular English is in contrast to the belief that people use African American English grammar and alternative spellings that are part of African American English because those people don't know the standard American English spelling or the Standard English words.
I believe that the primary reason for using the type of African American English that is found in most of these comments is to signal to other commenters or readers that you are "hip" (with the word "hip" here meaning "up to date" with the latest Black street culture).*
Another reason for commenters knowingly using the type of African American Vernacular English that is found in this YouTube comment thread, and in other YouTube comment threads, is that the person writing the comment wants to signal to other readers & other commenters that she or he is Black. However, that reason may not be as pertinent now because an increasing number of YouTube commenters have added a photograph of themselves as an icon which is posted in front of their comment. Therefore, presumably, a commenter's photograph could be used to determine his or her race. Admittedly, every person belonging to a particular race doesn't fit the physical images that that society has for members of that race. Also, I believe that people can belong to more than one race. That said, I still believe that it's still easier for people to identify a commenter as Black or as White now that YouTube commenter photographs are being used than it was before that time.
*I'm not a linguist, but I would categorize the majority of the comments that I have selected from this viewer comment as being representative of what I call "contemporary" (or "Hip Hop") African American English. There is also one comment below that includes an example of what I call 20th century Southern African American English (such as "I'm not finna") which I believe is the same as "not fixing to" (not getting ready to).
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-online-black-talk-code.html for more of my comments about what I call "putting on the Black", the purposeful use of African American English in YouTube comment threads.
DISCLAIMER
As mentioned above, I'm not a linguist, nor did I play one on tv (inside American joke).
This post is not meant to be a comprehensive listing of all the comments in this viewer comment thread that use African American vernacular English.
I want to be clear that don’t mean to imply that African American people are the only people using these terms. As is the case a part from the Internet, non-African American people-including non-Black people, also use African American vernacular. Given that fact, some of the commenters who are quoted in this post may be non-Black. Furthermore, some of the vernacular words & phrases that are used in these comments may not be of African American origin.
Also, although this video’s comment thread is full of comments on this issue, I’m not taking any position on whether this type of dancing was appropriate for children then or is appropriate for children now.
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SELECTED YOUTUBE VIEWER COMMENTS
These comments are from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY2FbveZ6Xw. [Inactive link for a withdrawn YouTube account]
The commenter's name is given first and is followed by the comment that he or she wrote. I‘ve also included what I believe is the Standard American English equivalent/s below the comment. I also included some additional information after a few examples.
WARNING: Many comments in this viewer comment thread are NSFWOCV (Not suitable for work or children's vieweing) because of profanity, racist, explicit sexual references, etc.
[2011]
notofdisworld78
I loved dis song when it came out, Lord I pray my Daughter never finds out bout dis song PLEASE LORD Dont let my Daughter dance funky like dis.
-snip-
"dis" = "this"
In the context of this sentence "dance funky" means "to dance in a sexually provocative way." But I don't think that's what the word "funky" in that title means. I think that "funky" in song title means that this song is spicy, exciting and not straightlaced or bland.
The "Y2C" in that title is a nod to the 1962 R&B song "Watusi" by the Orlons. In both those songs "Watusi" (Y2C) refers to the Watutsi (Tutsi) people of Central Africa. However, neither the song nor the dance movements have anything to do with the Tutsi ethnic group. I believe that that record title reflected the renewed interest in and appreciation of African culture that African Americans felt in the during the 1960s, in large part because at that time so many African nations were achieving their independence from European colonization.
"Funky Watusi" means that that old school song has been re-made with a funkier tempo.
When the crowd of children say that the girl [Little mama/Tamara] is so "funky and hot", both of those words are compliments that mean that they really like the way she looks - both her physical appearance and her style of dressing.
**
mrsboone26
I'm almost 25 and if my mamma saw me dancing like this today she would still whoop my butt!!!lol
-snip-
"whoop my butt" means "to give me a spanking on my backside".
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blkcoverboy
oooh u so hot...GUUUUUUUUUuuurl u need to stop"....CLASSIC! lol
-snip-
In this sentence "hot" here = "very physically appealing".
**
slimcola21
Hilarious. This song and vid still cracks me up. The 90's was a colorful era. I remember having similar jumpsuits and outfits like the ones in this vid. LOL
-snip-
"cracks me up" = "makes me laugh"
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Jasmine Carter
hahaha omg im 20 now and I remember me and my brother used to absoultly JAM to this song.. couldn't tell us nothing
-snip-
"Jam to this song = "dance to this song"
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SWAGTVOFMEMPHIS
This is whats wrong with our youth smh
-snip-
"smh" (or SMH) = "shake my head", a body gesture by shaking the head back & forth which signals that the person making the gesture is disdainful, annoyed, aggravated, disappointed, and/or disapproves of something said or done, or of some person or persons. Sometimes the actual action isn't done. Instead, the person writing this may just want to register his or her feelings about the matter or about the person. Particularly in the Caribbean, smh can be combined with the sound & motion of "suck teeth" (kiss teeth).
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BlackDymond927
remember back then when we use to b on d blk dancin like that n ya mama would catch u dancin like that n she'll drag u by ya shirt and say "get ya lil ass up stairs u think u grown..." lol d good old days
-snip-
I think that "b on d" means "to be on down"
"n" means "and'
"d good old days" means "the good old days"
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mzladykiki11
man i love dis video and song so for all da haters yall need to back back y y
-snip-
"da" = "the"
"haters" - people who "hate on" (dislike, insult, think negatively about and/or try to impede the actions of) someone or a group of people because of jealously or for no discernable reason
"y y" - I'm unsure what this means
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missresecup
lol, even though this song is so wrong......lol....i remember this song and i loved it..right now i am just laughing...i am not finna look deeper into this song which some people are trying to make it, when all on the television that got shows of young people getting pregnant and being fast and they win awards so whatever, enjoy the darn video and laugh a lil.
-snip-
"finna" = "fixing to" which means "getting ready to" do something:
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RBarr123
OMG this was my jam lol this brings back memories
-snip-
"this is my jam" = this is my favorite song. A Caribbean way of saying the same thing is "Tune!" (or "Chune!").
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Dizzle101d
nowadayz people would trip on this cuz thats the first thing that comes to people sick mind but when you grew up to this it was all fun and this came out along time ago. its just a dance but better than having miley cyrus as a teen idol dont ya think
-snip-
“trip on this” – would get upset about this. Another way of saying this is that "people would get on a set about this" [on a set=upset], or people "would get all bent out of shape about this."
Also, notice the lack of capitol letter in this example and the fact that punctuation is hardly used. And notice that "z" are used in place of the “s”. All of these are commonly found in Internet writing and in text messaging. These writing styles may be done to because speed is more important on the internet & in texting than grammatical rules. They may also be done because such styles of writing signal that you are "hip".
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othamama
U r so rite.. i was out durr doin all of dat.. LOL! aint nothin like dat ole skool music.
-snip-
“You are so right. I was out doors doing all of that. Laugh out loud! [There’s] nothing like that music from long ago.
-snip-
Also notice this commenter’s user name: “otha” = “other”.
Additional comments about how African Americans use “little mama” as a referent for girls as young as toddlers can be found in Part II of this Y2c series.
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MsVA757
This was my joint back in the day. LOL
-snip-
“joint”= same as “jam” – favorite song
The Caribbean terms “tune”, “chune” have the same meaning.
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afrobeauty08
lol i feel you. good old days
[“I feel you” – I agree with you. Technically means I feel just how you feel]
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TheLesh83
I still love this song. i dont care how old i am. this was it back in the day. (80's baby)
-snip-
"this was it" = this was the most popular song or the song that everyone danced to
"back in the day" means the same thing as "way back then" or "in the olden days".
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miamivicepastels83
i still have this on tape single....they are killin it lol
[“killin it” = dancing really good]; “breakin it down” - taking something down to its very essence, would result in that thing dying, this may be where the phrase “killin it came from.
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Kaitlyn johnson
ahahah why.. i fell you but i dont..theres a time and place for everthing....like at a play ground unexceptable depending on the situation ...feel me..at home by nherself in her room or gettin crunk wit mom its cool as loing der aint no lil boy behind her we all cool
-snip-
"feel me" - agree with me (technically "feel the same way I'm feeling"
In the context of this comment, I think that "getting crunk" means "partying" & dancing wildly
My translation of this comment to Standard American English:
[Laughter]. Why? I agree with some of what you wrote but not all of it. There’s a time and a place for everything. A playground is an unacceptable place to be dancing like that. Hear what I’m saying. At home by herself in her room, or partying and dancing with her moon, that type of dancing would be alright as long as there’s not any boy behind her, everything’s fine.
-snip-
Another way of saying “we all cool” is in the context of this sentence is “It’s all good”.
**
shortaye99
OMG I have this on my IPOD it is my JAMMMMMMMMM!!! OOhhh I'm so funky and hot...I used to kill this!! LOL
-snip-
"kill this" – dance really well to this record
-snip-
The name ‘shortaye” may be a form of the word “shorty”. "Shorty" is an affectionate African American general referent for children.
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[2012]
ccosten28
Yo this is just what is was back then. Miami was booty shake central....i mean this was the same era of Luke. And the kids were going to do it anyway so why not make something they could really dance to instead of letting them listen to 2 live Crew. the song is fun....booty shakin is a type of dance please know everybody cant do it.
-snip-
In the context of this sentence “Yo” means “Hey” and/or “Listen up”.
“booty shake central" = the main location in the nation where Black people were known for doing butt shaking dances. That was in contrast to other parts of the United States, for instance, Chicago where Black people were [are still] known for dances which emphasize fast foot work dance.
"Luke" refers to Luke Campbell, the manager & lead vocalist in the Hip-Hop group, 2 Live Crew ("too live [rhymes with hive] crew" is African American Vernacular English for "a group of people who are hyped {full of energy}". 2 Live Crew was known for records with very sexually explicit themes. Several commenters wrote that Luke Campbell is the uncle of the duo that made up the Puppies (Calvin "Big Boy" Mills & Tamara "Dee" Mills).
**
Luke Bosco
Am i the only that thinks this is dope? lol the beat is fire and the flow is hype. theyre just shakin their lil behinds. they're not wearing thongs or anything. chill out everyone. this is fun.
-snip-
In the context of this sentence, "dope" = really very good
In the context of this sentence "hype" = exciting, very good
"Chill out" = "relax"
**
papigrandeful
lol so old skool
-snip-
so old skool = so old school means "this was a hit song a while ago. ("old school" is usually a compliment.)
[2013]
miss10baby
luv dis song
-snip-
"luv" is a Hip Hop spelling for "love"
-snip-
ZERBA66
girl this song is so ghetto
-snip-
"girl" is a general referent for females.
"So ghetto" means so lower class.
**
mbur126
Memba thiz joint....oldy but a gudy
-snip-
My translation of this comment into Standard American English:
[I] remember this song... [It's an] oldy but a goody (it's a classic.)
ADDENDUM
Notice the various types of user names that are found in this post. Such made up user names are less often found on YouTube since June 2012 because of the strong suggestion YouTube administrators have made to commenters and uploaders to switch to their first & last names. Posts about YouTube user names can be found on this pancocojams blog and on my cocojams.com website.
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ACKNOWLEDGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to the Puppies for this old school jam. Thanks also to the commenters for their comments. Thanks also to the uploader of this video.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Visitors comments are welcome.
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Wednesday, March 6, 2013
YouTube User Names That Refer To Race, Skin Color, Ethnicity, Or Nationality (On African Wedding Videos Comment Threads)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post presents selected user names from YouTube videos of four African weddings. Most of these made up user names refer to the blogger's race, skin color, ethnicity, or nationality. This sample also includes user names that refer to the continent of Africa.
As a bonus, I've added a video of a Nigerian themed African American wedding that was held in Maryland, USA.
Selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread can be found after that video.
This is a companion piece to a post on my Cocojams cultural website: http://cocojams.com/content/made-youtube-user-names-howlin-wolf-video-comment-thread "Made Up YouTube User Names In A Howlin Wolf Video Comment Thread". This is also a companion piece to the pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/made-up-youtube-user-names-in-two.html Made Up YouTube User Names In Two Olatunji Comment Threads
All of those posts focus on examples of made up user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of these featured video/s. By "made up names" I mean a name other than a person's first name & last name, or a person's first name, middle initial, and last name, or a person's first name & the initial of his or her last name. Those names are often referred to as a person's "full name" or a person's "real name". In this context, a person's first name could also be a nickname that is derived from that first name.
I'm interested in documenting types of made up user names on YouTube comment threads because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters & its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names". And it appears that many people have done so.
The Cocojams post whose link is given above contains a larger list of the types of user names that I've found on YouTube comment threads. That post also includes more of my comments about made up user names.
With regard to this specific post, I believe that user names that reference race, skin color, ethnicity, or nationality as well as a person's continent can be indications of self-esteem & self-confidence, and/or an indication of the person's pride in his or her ethnic group and/or nation. All of these can be positive attributes.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric, historical, educational, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
FEATURED VIDEOS, SELECTED USER NAMES & COMMENTS
Note: Most but not all of the user names that fit this category from each video are presented here. My failure to include any user name in this post should not be construed to mean that I didn't like those names or didn't approve of those comments.
WARNING: YouTube comment threads often contain profanity, racist, homophobic, sexually explicit, sexist, violent language , and other language that may be NSFWOCV (not suitable for work or children's viewing).
These user name examples are placed in chronological order with the oldest comments posted first, except for any response to a comment. The date of the user names for a particular year are placed under that year.
Example #1: Mary and Emeka Nigerian Traditional Wedding - Procession
Ade Obadina Uploaded on Jul 27, 2011
Union of the Igbo and Yoruba cultures - Mary Temitope Obadina and her bridesmaids make an epic entrance during the traditional Nigerian wedding on 23rd July 2011. This is Mary's bridal procession with her beautiful eligible bridesmaids as she wow's Emeka Kenneth Okoroafor (Igwe - King) with a surprise dance in spectacular style!
-snip-
Notice how the wedding guest converge on the bride and "dash" (spray) her with money.
Here are selected user names from this video's viewer comment thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAeeyoUn4o
[2010]
zimgal101
-snip-
Editor: "Zim" is a colloquial referent for the African nation of Zimababwe or a person from Zimbabwe.
[2012]
Naijagyal01
-snip-
Editor: "Naija" is a colloquial form of the word “Nigeria”. “Gyal” is a Caribbean patois form of the English word “girl”.
[2013]
QueenCoco Brown
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Example #2: Wedding entrance African style.mp4
beavadvideo, Uploaded on Apr 25, 2010
African wedding filmed by Beavad Video Productions (www.beavadvideo.com)
-snip-
Several commenters wrote that this is a Zimbabwean wedding.
Here are selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcX9uNPJJho
[2012]
MsAfricanbeauty1
**
ghanaianbeauty90
**
noirrosa
-snip-
Editor: The English translation for the French word “noir” is “black”.
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Update: July 11, 2015: This is another clip of the initial video (published by Shadreck Rukweza, Uploaded on Jul 29, 2010) that I initially embedded for this post. That video doesn't appear to be available any longer. The names listed below the video are from the initial video.
Example #3: Wedding Dance Moves in HD
Published on Jan 25, 2014
Extraordinaire dance très beau mouvement d'ensemble
-snip-
This is a wedding in Zimbabwe.
Here are selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG2O7kRsdh8
Editor: I added the first two comments for informational purposes.
[2011]
congobk10
"this is wonderful!! where are you guys from?"
Reply
zulunatic1
"@ congobk...we are all from Zimbabwe but we based in the UK"
[2012]
missbenin91
**
lightskin003
**
africankween24
-snip-
Editor: "kween" is an alternative way of spelling "queen".
**
malawianbabe1
**
kenyagirl2009
**
MsAfricana1
**
MrShonaguy
**
hausasfinest
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Example #4: Wedding exit dance
Samuellyc, Uploaded on Oct 19, 2011
Bevis and Mutale's exit dance at their incredible wedding in Zambia. For all those asking the track is Grippe Aviaire by DJ Lewis.
-snip-
This is a wedding in Zambia.
Here are selected user names along with their comments from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XWnnEhuPc
[2012]
Boricua StayBlem
"Amazingly stunning Bride! anddddd You guys had FUN! thats a real wedding. Love the dance."
-snip-
Editor: “Boricua” is the Taíno term for Puerto Rico.
**
baby9ja
"this is cute :)"
-snip-
Editor: I believe that “9ja” is a texting way of writing “Naija”. “Naija” is the colloquial term for Nigeria; Nigerian.
**
MsAfricanbeauty1
"Grippe Aviaire by DJ Lewis. [response to the question “whats the name of this song?”]
**
indialove101
"dis is wassup :-) i love this"
**
africanpride69
"Ohhh les africaines. Love it. Bride looks soo lovely."
[2013]
ebonyladyy 3 weeks ago
"J adore!!!!"
**
datghanabeautyAfia
"awwww luv de dance wat country is that?"
-snip-
Editor: This user name is "dat (that) ghana beauty Afia". “Afia” is a Akan [Ghanaian]female name.
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BONUS VIDEO
African Wedding/Sharon and Mike Pt 3
gospeltributes, Uploaded on Jan 7, 2010
Sharon and Mikes Wedding at the Gaylord National Resort Hotel in Maryland.
-snip-
A number of comments from Nigerians & other Africans pointed out that while the wedding parties' outfits were Nigerian, a masquerade (meaning a stilt walker) would never be included in a Nigerian wedding. Another difference that a commenter shared other differences between this ceremony and Nigerian wedding ceremonies is that the guests in Nigerian weddings don't remain standing separate from the official wedding party. Compare this bridal party entrance to the entrance that occurs in Example #1 of this post. That said, I sincerely commend Sharon & Mike for the obvious research that went into their conceptualization of their Nigerian themed wedding ceremony.
Here's a list of the user names from that video's viewer comment thread that referenced skin color, race, ethnicity, nationality, or a continent (i.e. "African")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICnYVrCKjPQ
[2012]
gold9ja
-snip-
Editor: gold9ja probably means gold naija ("Naija" is a colloquial way of saying "Nigeria"/"Nigerian"
**
blackbono lala
**
blaquecherry419
-snip-
Editor: "blaque" is an alternative contemporary way of spelling "black"
**
Africaunite2020
[2013]
blkghanaprincess
-snip-
Editor: blkghanaprincess= black ghana princess
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ACKNOWLEGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to all of those persons who are featured in these videos. Also, much respect and best wishes to each of the wedding couples. My thanks also to all of the commenters whose user names are featured in this post. Thanks also to the uploaders of these videos.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This post presents selected user names from YouTube videos of four African weddings. Most of these made up user names refer to the blogger's race, skin color, ethnicity, or nationality. This sample also includes user names that refer to the continent of Africa.
As a bonus, I've added a video of a Nigerian themed African American wedding that was held in Maryland, USA.
Selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread can be found after that video.
This is a companion piece to a post on my Cocojams cultural website: http://cocojams.com/content/made-youtube-user-names-howlin-wolf-video-comment-thread "Made Up YouTube User Names In A Howlin Wolf Video Comment Thread". This is also a companion piece to the pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/made-up-youtube-user-names-in-two.html Made Up YouTube User Names In Two Olatunji Comment Threads
All of those posts focus on examples of made up user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of these featured video/s. By "made up names" I mean a name other than a person's first name & last name, or a person's first name, middle initial, and last name, or a person's first name & the initial of his or her last name. Those names are often referred to as a person's "full name" or a person's "real name". In this context, a person's first name could also be a nickname that is derived from that first name.
I'm interested in documenting types of made up user names on YouTube comment threads because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters & its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names". And it appears that many people have done so.
The Cocojams post whose link is given above contains a larger list of the types of user names that I've found on YouTube comment threads. That post also includes more of my comments about made up user names.
With regard to this specific post, I believe that user names that reference race, skin color, ethnicity, or nationality as well as a person's continent can be indications of self-esteem & self-confidence, and/or an indication of the person's pride in his or her ethnic group and/or nation. All of these can be positive attributes.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric, historical, educational, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
FEATURED VIDEOS, SELECTED USER NAMES & COMMENTS
Note: Most but not all of the user names that fit this category from each video are presented here. My failure to include any user name in this post should not be construed to mean that I didn't like those names or didn't approve of those comments.
WARNING: YouTube comment threads often contain profanity, racist, homophobic, sexually explicit, sexist, violent language , and other language that may be NSFWOCV (not suitable for work or children's viewing).
These user name examples are placed in chronological order with the oldest comments posted first, except for any response to a comment. The date of the user names for a particular year are placed under that year.
Example #1: Mary and Emeka Nigerian Traditional Wedding - Procession
Ade Obadina Uploaded on Jul 27, 2011
Union of the Igbo and Yoruba cultures - Mary Temitope Obadina and her bridesmaids make an epic entrance during the traditional Nigerian wedding on 23rd July 2011. This is Mary's bridal procession with her beautiful eligible bridesmaids as she wow's Emeka Kenneth Okoroafor (Igwe - King) with a surprise dance in spectacular style!
-snip-
Notice how the wedding guest converge on the bride and "dash" (spray) her with money.
Here are selected user names from this video's viewer comment thread http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CpAeeyoUn4o
[2010]
zimgal101
-snip-
Editor: "Zim" is a colloquial referent for the African nation of Zimababwe or a person from Zimbabwe.
[2012]
Naijagyal01
-snip-
Editor: "Naija" is a colloquial form of the word “Nigeria”. “Gyal” is a Caribbean patois form of the English word “girl”.
[2013]
QueenCoco Brown
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Example #2: Wedding entrance African style.mp4
beavadvideo, Uploaded on Apr 25, 2010
African wedding filmed by Beavad Video Productions (www.beavadvideo.com)
-snip-
Several commenters wrote that this is a Zimbabwean wedding.
Here are selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CcX9uNPJJho
[2012]
MsAfricanbeauty1
**
ghanaianbeauty90
**
noirrosa
-snip-
Editor: The English translation for the French word “noir” is “black”.
****
Update: July 11, 2015: This is another clip of the initial video (published by Shadreck Rukweza, Uploaded on Jul 29, 2010) that I initially embedded for this post. That video doesn't appear to be available any longer. The names listed below the video are from the initial video.
Example #3: Wedding Dance Moves in HD
Published on Jan 25, 2014
Extraordinaire dance très beau mouvement d'ensemble
-snip-
This is a wedding in Zimbabwe.
Here are selected user names from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oG2O7kRsdh8
Editor: I added the first two comments for informational purposes.
[2011]
congobk10
"this is wonderful!! where are you guys from?"
Reply
zulunatic1
"@ congobk...we are all from Zimbabwe but we based in the UK"
[2012]
missbenin91
**
lightskin003
**
africankween24
-snip-
Editor: "kween" is an alternative way of spelling "queen".
**
malawianbabe1
**
kenyagirl2009
**
MsAfricana1
**
MrShonaguy
**
hausasfinest
****
Example #4: Wedding exit dance
Samuellyc, Uploaded on Oct 19, 2011
Bevis and Mutale's exit dance at their incredible wedding in Zambia. For all those asking the track is Grippe Aviaire by DJ Lewis.
-snip-
This is a wedding in Zambia.
Here are selected user names along with their comments from that video's viewer comment thread: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e7XWnnEhuPc
[2012]
Boricua StayBlem
"Amazingly stunning Bride! anddddd You guys had FUN! thats a real wedding. Love the dance."
-snip-
Editor: “Boricua” is the Taíno term for Puerto Rico.
**
baby9ja
"this is cute :)"
-snip-
Editor: I believe that “9ja” is a texting way of writing “Naija”. “Naija” is the colloquial term for Nigeria; Nigerian.
**
MsAfricanbeauty1
"Grippe Aviaire by DJ Lewis. [response to the question “whats the name of this song?”]
**
indialove101
"dis is wassup :-) i love this"
**
africanpride69
"Ohhh les africaines. Love it. Bride looks soo lovely."
[2013]
ebonyladyy 3 weeks ago
"J adore!!!!"
**
datghanabeautyAfia
"awwww luv de dance wat country is that?"
-snip-
Editor: This user name is "dat (that) ghana beauty Afia". “Afia” is a Akan [Ghanaian]female name.
****
BONUS VIDEO
African Wedding/Sharon and Mike Pt 3
gospeltributes, Uploaded on Jan 7, 2010
Sharon and Mikes Wedding at the Gaylord National Resort Hotel in Maryland.
-snip-
A number of comments from Nigerians & other Africans pointed out that while the wedding parties' outfits were Nigerian, a masquerade (meaning a stilt walker) would never be included in a Nigerian wedding. Another difference that a commenter shared other differences between this ceremony and Nigerian wedding ceremonies is that the guests in Nigerian weddings don't remain standing separate from the official wedding party. Compare this bridal party entrance to the entrance that occurs in Example #1 of this post. That said, I sincerely commend Sharon & Mike for the obvious research that went into their conceptualization of their Nigerian themed wedding ceremony.
Here's a list of the user names from that video's viewer comment thread that referenced skin color, race, ethnicity, nationality, or a continent (i.e. "African")
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ICnYVrCKjPQ
[2012]
gold9ja
-snip-
Editor: gold9ja probably means gold naija ("Naija" is a colloquial way of saying "Nigeria"/"Nigerian"
**
blackbono lala
**
blaquecherry419
-snip-
Editor: "blaque" is an alternative contemporary way of spelling "black"
**
Africaunite2020
[2013]
blkghanaprincess
-snip-
Editor: blkghanaprincess= black ghana princess
****
ACKNOWLEGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to all of those persons who are featured in these videos. Also, much respect and best wishes to each of the wedding couples. My thanks also to all of the commenters whose user names are featured in this post. Thanks also to the uploaders of these videos.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
Monday, March 4, 2013
Made Up YouTube User Names On Two Olatunji Comment Threads
Edited by Azizi Powell
Revised February 16, 2016 [with the link and references to my no longer active Cocojams website removed]
This post showcases two video performances of Babatunde Olatunji. Olatunji (April 7, 1927 – April 6, 2003) was a Nigerian drummer, educator, social activist and recording artist. Information about Babatunji Olatunji can be found by clicking this link to his Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babatunde_Olatunji.
This is a companian piece to this pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/youtube-user-names-that-refer-to-race.html YouTube User Names That Refer To Race, Skin Color, Ethnicity, Or Nationality
All of those posts focus on examples of user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of those featured video/s. By "made up names" I mean a name other than a person's first name & last name, or a person's first name, middle initial, and last name, or a person's first name & the initial of his or her last name. Those names are often referred to as a person's "full name" or a person's "real name". In this context, a person's first name could also be a nickname that is derived from that first name.
I'm interested in documenting types of made up user names on YouTube comment threads because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters & its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names". And it appears that many people have done so.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric, historical, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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FEATURED VIDEOS, SELECTED USER NAMES & COMMENTS
This isn't meant to be a complete listing of all of the made up user names on these videos' viewer comment threads. However, I believe that these featured user names are representative of the types of user names that are found on those particular comment threads. I also believe that these examples are representative of many of the types of user names that are currently found throughout the internet.
My failure to include any user name in this post should not be construed to mean that I didn't like those names or didn't approve of those comments.
To further enrich this reading experience, I've included the featured comment made by these selected bloggers on those videos' discussion threads.
WARNING: YouTube comment threads often contain profanity, racist, homophobic, sexually explicit, sexist, and violent language. None of those comments are included in this compilation.
These user name examples are placed in chronological order with the oldest comments posted first, except for any response to a comment. The user names for a particular year are placed under that year.
Example #1: Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion- Ajaja
BabaOlatunjiMusic, Uploaded on Jul 17, 2008
Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion perform at a New Years Eve Concert in 1986 opening for The Grateful Dead. Concert intro song Ajaja.
-snip-
User Names & Comments from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51O2ymTtsR8
[Total Comments as of 10:00 am EST 3/4/2013 - 29]
[2008]
richardolatunde
"great seeing this!"
[This user name might be the blogger's real name or it might be a user name that was selected in homage to Babatunde Olatunji. "Olatunde" is a traditional Yoruba name. To figure out that name's meaning, read my comment below.]
**
kamaliyah
Ashe'!!!!!
[Ashe, "Ase"; "Ase o" can be translated to English to mean “Power”.]
**
[2009]
THEKINKS08
"yeah, reminds me his The Who's introduction in Tanglewood, Massachutes."
**
[2010/2011]
sunmanpatoo
"as we call upon the spirit of the ancestors"
Reply:
NativeToungue77
"ase o"
**
[2012]
flavorina,
ATUNDAY PLEASE
[This comment is a request for Olatunji's song "Odunde".]
**
memacken8
"absolutely beautiful. respect for sharing the sacred with all.
just want to dance now :)
om śānti śānti śānti"
**
drdreadfullyawesome pp
"KSI's DAD!!!"
Reply
confusedduckling
"I SEAD THAT GEORGE"
**
[2013]
Cosmosthemonster
"Blu Phi!"
[This is the signature call for members of the historically Black Greek lettered fraternity Phi Beta Sigma, Inc. My guess is that this comment was written because the blogger saw the blue & white colors of a drummer's top and a dancer's cloth wrap; "Royal blue and Pure white" are the colors for Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.]
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Example #2: Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion- Odunde
BabaOlatunjiMusic, Uploaded on Jul 17, 2008
Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion perform at a New Years Eve Concert in 1986 opening for The Grateful Dead. Concert intro song Ajaja.
-snip-
This is from Olatunji’s performance at a Grateful Dead concert.
In his introductory remarks for this song, Baba Olatunji described “Odunde” as a harvest song & dance
-snip-
User Names & Comments from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51O2ymTtsR8
[Total Comments as of 10:30 am EST 3/4/2013 - 26]
[2008]
Anikulapo2
"As the second commentor, I should very much like to ask: Do I see among the players the Right Honoralbe Trevor Huddleston from South Afrika? Please let me know as soon as possible as I so marvel to see the greats praising the Holy Spirit! Trevor played with Hugh Masekela, Mama Miriam Makeba; and all brought Us into a new consciousness. Yetha Moya, Oyingwele! Oh Moya Wami!"
**
[2009]
kx9x
"I had an audience recording of this performance when I just started trading Dead tapes; I played the hell out of this recording. 8 months later I was in a West African drumming class led by a master drummer from Ghana. I got to see Olatunji as part of hte Planet Drum tour in 1991; they had to carry him on and off the stage, but MAN ,what a presence. Though I never met him, Olatunji changed my life with this performance."
**
[2010]
TheReptilum
"i love AFRICA,is it mother of humans."
**
[2012]
leaflight44
"Blessings on Baba where ever he is!"
**
BuyWagDrummer
"Just incredible"
**
Tigerlin7
"I saw him at the wetlands perserved right after Jerry Garcia Died and he deadicated the show to Jerry and all the deadheads. IT WAS AMAZING
:D"
**
atomotma
"There's no doubt. Baba was the very best"
**
Sawthemdance
"such spiritual greatness!"
**
MotherLioness17
"Awesome!!!!!"
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ACKNOWLEGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to Babatunde Olatunji for his musical legacy. My thanks to all of the musicians, vocalists, and dancers who are featured on these videos. My thanks also to all of the commenters whose user names & comments are featured in this postThanks also to BabaOlatunjiMusic, the uploader of both of these videos.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
Revised February 16, 2016 [with the link and references to my no longer active Cocojams website removed]
This post showcases two video performances of Babatunde Olatunji. Olatunji (April 7, 1927 – April 6, 2003) was a Nigerian drummer, educator, social activist and recording artist. Information about Babatunji Olatunji can be found by clicking this link to his Wikipedia page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Babatunde_Olatunji.
This is a companian piece to this pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/03/youtube-user-names-that-refer-to-race.html YouTube User Names That Refer To Race, Skin Color, Ethnicity, Or Nationality
All of those posts focus on examples of user names that are found in the viewer comment threads of those featured video/s. By "made up names" I mean a name other than a person's first name & last name, or a person's first name, middle initial, and last name, or a person's first name & the initial of his or her last name. Those names are often referred to as a person's "full name" or a person's "real name". In this context, a person's first name could also be a nickname that is derived from that first name.
I'm interested in documenting types of made up user names on YouTube comment threads because I believe that a review of those types of names can be of folkloric & sociological value. That documentation is of particular urgency because, since June 2012, YouTube has tried to convince its commenters & its video uploaders to switch to the use of their "real names". And it appears that many people have done so.
The content of this post is presented for folkloric, historical, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
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FEATURED VIDEOS, SELECTED USER NAMES & COMMENTS
This isn't meant to be a complete listing of all of the made up user names on these videos' viewer comment threads. However, I believe that these featured user names are representative of the types of user names that are found on those particular comment threads. I also believe that these examples are representative of many of the types of user names that are currently found throughout the internet.
My failure to include any user name in this post should not be construed to mean that I didn't like those names or didn't approve of those comments.
To further enrich this reading experience, I've included the featured comment made by these selected bloggers on those videos' discussion threads.
WARNING: YouTube comment threads often contain profanity, racist, homophobic, sexually explicit, sexist, and violent language. None of those comments are included in this compilation.
These user name examples are placed in chronological order with the oldest comments posted first, except for any response to a comment. The user names for a particular year are placed under that year.
Example #1: Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion- Ajaja
BabaOlatunjiMusic, Uploaded on Jul 17, 2008
Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion perform at a New Years Eve Concert in 1986 opening for The Grateful Dead. Concert intro song Ajaja.
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User Names & Comments from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51O2ymTtsR8
[Total Comments as of 10:00 am EST 3/4/2013 - 29]
[2008]
richardolatunde
"great seeing this!"
[This user name might be the blogger's real name or it might be a user name that was selected in homage to Babatunde Olatunji. "Olatunde" is a traditional Yoruba name. To figure out that name's meaning, read my comment below.]
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kamaliyah
Ashe'!!!!!
[Ashe, "Ase"; "Ase o" can be translated to English to mean “Power”.]
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[2009]
THEKINKS08
"yeah, reminds me his The Who's introduction in Tanglewood, Massachutes."
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[2010/2011]
sunmanpatoo
"as we call upon the spirit of the ancestors"
Reply:
NativeToungue77
"ase o"
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[2012]
flavorina,
ATUNDAY PLEASE
[This comment is a request for Olatunji's song "Odunde".]
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memacken8
"absolutely beautiful. respect for sharing the sacred with all.
just want to dance now :)
om śānti śānti śānti"
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drdreadfullyawesome pp
"KSI's DAD!!!"
Reply
confusedduckling
"I SEAD THAT GEORGE"
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[2013]
Cosmosthemonster
"Blu Phi!"
[This is the signature call for members of the historically Black Greek lettered fraternity Phi Beta Sigma, Inc. My guess is that this comment was written because the blogger saw the blue & white colors of a drummer's top and a dancer's cloth wrap; "Royal blue and Pure white" are the colors for Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc.]
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Example #2: Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion- Odunde
BabaOlatunjiMusic, Uploaded on Jul 17, 2008
Baba Olatunji & his Drums of Passion perform at a New Years Eve Concert in 1986 opening for The Grateful Dead. Concert intro song Ajaja.
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This is from Olatunji’s performance at a Grateful Dead concert.
In his introductory remarks for this song, Baba Olatunji described “Odunde” as a harvest song & dance
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User Names & Comments from http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=51O2ymTtsR8
[Total Comments as of 10:30 am EST 3/4/2013 - 26]
[2008]
Anikulapo2
"As the second commentor, I should very much like to ask: Do I see among the players the Right Honoralbe Trevor Huddleston from South Afrika? Please let me know as soon as possible as I so marvel to see the greats praising the Holy Spirit! Trevor played with Hugh Masekela, Mama Miriam Makeba; and all brought Us into a new consciousness. Yetha Moya, Oyingwele! Oh Moya Wami!"
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[2009]
kx9x
"I had an audience recording of this performance when I just started trading Dead tapes; I played the hell out of this recording. 8 months later I was in a West African drumming class led by a master drummer from Ghana. I got to see Olatunji as part of hte Planet Drum tour in 1991; they had to carry him on and off the stage, but MAN ,what a presence. Though I never met him, Olatunji changed my life with this performance."
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[2010]
TheReptilum
"i love AFRICA,is it mother of humans."
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[2012]
leaflight44
"Blessings on Baba where ever he is!"
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BuyWagDrummer
"Just incredible"
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Tigerlin7
"I saw him at the wetlands perserved right after Jerry Garcia Died and he deadicated the show to Jerry and all the deadheads. IT WAS AMAZING
:D"
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atomotma
"There's no doubt. Baba was the very best"
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Sawthemdance
"such spiritual greatness!"
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MotherLioness17
"Awesome!!!!!"
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ACKNOWLEGEMENT AND THANKS
Thanks to Babatunde Olatunji for his musical legacy. My thanks to all of the musicians, vocalists, and dancers who are featured on these videos. My thanks also to all of the commenters whose user names & comments are featured in this postThanks also to BabaOlatunjiMusic, the uploader of both of these videos.
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