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Showing posts with label South African Gospel music. Show all posts
Showing posts with label South African Gospel music. Show all posts

Sunday, October 22, 2023

2010 Journal Excerpt: "Sing on, Ntsikana: The Story of Christian Music Among the Xhosa people of South Africa" By Jonathan Knight

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision - Oct. 22, 2023

This pancocojams post presents information about South African Prophet Ntsikana.

This post also presents an excerpt from the 2010 journal article entitled "Sing on, Ntsikana: The Story of Christian Music Among the Xhosa people of South Africa."

Pancocojams readers are encouraged to read the complete article.

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The content of this post is presented for historical, educational, and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Jonathan Wright for his research and writing and thanks to Ntsikana and others documented in this article for their cultural and musical legacies. Thanks to digitalcommons.cedarville.edu for its online publication of this Musical Offerings journal article.
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Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/10/south-african-prophet-ntsikanas-great.html for the closely related pancocojams post entitled "South African Prophet Ntsikana's Great Hymn (Information, YouTube Video, & Partial Lyrics)".

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INFORMATION ABOUT PROPHET NTSIKANA
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntsikana
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Ntsikana (born 1780-1821) was a Christian Xhosa prophet, evangelist and hymn writer who is regarded as one of the first Christians to translate Christian ideas and concepts into terms understandable to a Xhosa audience.[1]

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Music

Ntsikana also composed Christian hymns in isiXhosa which included “Intsimbi” (Ntsikana’s Bell),“Dalibom (Life-Creator), “Ingoma engqukuva” (Round Hymn) and “Ulo Thixomkulu” (“Thou Great God” - the Great Hymn).[2]

(Some of the so called hymns he “composed” have been proved to have been sung by the Xhosas king way before he was born.)

Legacy

Ntsikana is regarded as one of the first Christians who tried to adapt Christianity to African culture."
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Given this information and the information in the journal article excerpted below, it's likely that early on the currently popular isiXhosa Christian hymn "Ndikhoklele Bawo" and some other IsiXhosa hymns were first sung in praise of Xhosa kings before being adopted as Christian hymns.

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ARTICLE EXCERPT 
From https://digitalcommons.cedarville.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1013&context=musicalofferings

 "Musical Offerings, vol. 1, no. 1, pp.21-31. ISSN 2167-3799

© 2010, Jonathan Knight, licensed under CC BY-NC-ND "Sing on, Ntsikana: The Story of Christian Music Among the Xhosa people of South Africa"

[by] Jonathan Knight, Cedarville University

"The Xhosa, a people group united by language and history, occupied a large portion of what is now eastern South Africa prior to the arrival of Europeans. The Dutch were the first white men to touch South African’s shores, and the British followed soon after. The forward progress of European forces caused the expulsion of the Xhosa from their native, ancestral land. But the seeds of Christianity were planted through contact with (mainly) English missionaries who told them the story of Jesus. One of the earliest converts to Christianity, Ntsikana, was also the first Xhosa to compose music meant to worship their newfound Savior. Though this music in the traditional Xhosa style lay dormant for some time, enthusiastic Xhosa ministers in the past century have done much to learn from and expand upon the musical, spiritual legacy of Ntsikana. A unique blend of European and South African music has birthed among Xhosa Christians a distinct flavor of worship, which, though reflecting foreign influences, strongly retains indigenous traditions.

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.... Ntsikana was instrumental in spreading Christianity. He had a much greater influence than the missionaries in bringing the faith to his people. He also gave his people another gift, one that continues to impact them today, side-by-side with their faith: originally composed hymns. 

At the time when Ntsikana began composing hymns, the idea of writing Christian music in an African musical idiom was unheard of. The European hymn was standard among the missionaries in South Africa, and from the beginning of the 19th century this form, with its straight rhythms and four-part harmonies, was established by the missionaries as the standard for black church music.

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Missionaries encouraged the Xhosa to reform their ideas of music. This meant compartmentalizing the arts according to the European manner. Interestingly, the Xhosa had no abstract word for “music” in their language. Instead, they conceived of music in terms of the activities which it accompanied: the song, the dance, even the role of the singers. The Xhosa word i-culo was chosen by the missionaries to represent music in a European fashion. The missionaries’ music was strictly diatonic, with careful avoidance of African rhythm. Their intent was to make a clear distinction between the cultural music making they were familiar with, which was an integral part of Xhosa community life, and the “Christian” music that was appropriate in church and school (Somniso, 132). Today i-culo retains the definition given by the English, and is defined in Kropf’s Xhosa dictionary as “originally a short song, now a hymn” (Elphick, 319). It refers exclusively to “church or school singing performed without bodily movement” (320).

The European system was clearly inadequate for rendering the complexities of traditional Xhosa music effectively. However, some Western music did roughly resemble the established Xhosa tonal system, which was patterned on major triads. Two major triads a whole step apart (such as F and G) made up the fundamental harmonic movement in the Xhosa musical system. 2

 2 This tonal system have developed based on the performing instrument of choice, the uhabi, or “musical bow.” The overtones produced by this instrument (manipulated by the player) are the basis for their harmonic system. Elphick notes that, “the repeated use of major chords in the diatonic harmony of pieces like Handel’s ‘Hallelujah Chorus’ was appealing to the Xhosa ears”(Elphick, 320).

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As the missionaries attempted to reshape the Xhosa concept of music, they immediately encountered significant difficulties. As the missionaries translated Protestant hymn texts directly into Xhosa, they failed to recognize the tonal nature of the language.3

Words in Xhosa have different meanings depending on changes in tone. In some Xhosa phrases, each word has its own individual tone! This is a linguistic characteristic shared by other nearby peoples, including the Zulu and Sotho. The pattern proceeds as follows: “the first phrase begins high, falls (through the steps of the word tone), and ends lower; the new phrase begins high again, but lower than the phrase before, then falls at its end, and so on” (Elphick, 321). Thus, the meaning of a translated hymns often proved to be humorous, at best, though more often they became totally absurd (Hawn, 108). For some reason early missionaries were either ignorant of this problem or chose to ignore it. Others sought to adjust selected syllables to alleviate the problem (Elphick, 321).

It does not appear that any missionaries at this time considered teaching the Xhosa people to write Christian music in their own tradition. Instead, it was Ntsikana who embarked into uncharted territory, composing songs for his congregation (Stone, 763). He personified his peoples’ attempts not to be culturally whitewashed by Western influences. His first and greatest song, now known as the “Great Hymn,” was composed the night following his conversion in 1814. He claimed to receive the Holy Spirit immediately, and stayed awake the entire night singing the chorus of his great composition (322). His contact with missionaries was minimal, so he “composed” in the only style he knew: the style of his people. It was not long before Xhosa choirs began performing the song, accompanied by dance (Somniso, 135). It has been passed on orally to this day (Stone, 763). In fact, his “Great Hymn” is “regarded as the summit achievement of Xhosa song” (Elphick, 322). It is also considered “the prototype of church music in a Traditional Xhosa style” (Hawn, 128).

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After Ntsikana’s death in 1821, his followers, as well as some missionaries, set out to transcribe his hymns, which, though performed choirs everywhere, were


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not accessible apart from oral transmission. But transcriptions in English (Sol-Fa) singing style (with rigid rhythm) failed to do justice to the African harmonies.4 Nevertheless, the stiff musical tastes of the missionaries did not stop the Africans from keeping their music their own. Choirs continued to perform the hymn according to their culturally conditioned sense of harmony, a practice that has been termed “Afro-diatonic” music. African singers instinctively bend the diatonic scale to match their “sweeter” tonal system. They incorporated blue notes into their choral sound, adjusting the scale degrees as they feel the need. This instinctive harmonic freedom produces the sound that makes African choirs distinct. Each singer moves parallel to the melody, searching for the next court member by ear. Even in the absence of traditional rhythms, they refused to surrender their musical voice (Elphick 320).

In the late 1800’s, a man named John Knox Bokwe played an important role in reinvigorating the musical legacy of Ntsikana, and adapting Xhosa music to the solfege system. His parents and grandparents were faithful disciples of Ntsikana, and he was the first Xhosa to be ordained, serving as a choirmaster in the Presbyterian church (Stone, 763). Bokwe spent much time studying Ntsikana’s musical works, and published a series of transcriptions of Ntsikana’s hymns between 1878 and 1914 (Elphick, 323). Bokwe’s “revival” of Ntsikana’s work proved to be the first in a growing tradition of Christian Xhosa songwriters. The Catholic Church has been the most notable example of a Christian group to encourage and facilitate worship in an African style. The papal encyclical Musicae sacrae in 1955 first “encouraged missionaries to promote local music for use in worship.” South Africa was among the first African nations to begin widespread usage of culturally traditional music in church worship5 (Elphick, 321). With the unique influence of Ntsikana in South Africa, this comes as no surprise!

In the 1960s, Catholic missionaries began actively assisting the Xhosa (and other tribes) in composing liturgical music in traditional styles. This shift took place following the historic Vatican II, 1962–1965, which opened the doors for indigenous liturgies. These were days of “encouragement in creativity and
experimentation” (Hawn, 108).

In 1965, prolific Xhosa composer (in western style) Benjamin Peter John Tyamzashe was commissioned by Fritz Lobinger and Oswalt Hirmer, members of the Lumko Missiological Institute, to write a liturgical piece in Xhosa style. Tyamzashe had not considered composing music in his native style before, so he 

4 The Sol-Fa (solfege) method of singing was developed by a British educator named John Curwen.

5 The use of African musical idioms today is most notably seen in the Zionist churches of South Africa, the first of which were planted in the early 1900. This “denomination” was formed with the specific intent of resisting white religious domination and worshiping in an African way. (Peires, 136; Elphick 323)

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turned to Ntsikana’s hymns for inspiration (Hawn, 108). The result was his “Gloria,” the first original piece of Christian Xhosa music written in traditional style since the death of Ntsikana over 140 years earlier (Elphick, 321). 

David Dargie, a Catholic missionary, was next to pick up the baton in the growing momentum of Xhosa composition. At first glance, a white priest would not appear to be an effective candidate for promoting ethnic African music. But, as a third generation South African and outstanding musicologist, Dargie has proved to be a central figure in training the Xhosa in composition and performance of their native music, in both liturgical and cultural life (Hawn, 108). He himself is an accomplished composer and performer of traditional Xhosa music, and between 1977 and 1986 he organized a number of composition workshops for local Xhosa pastors. At these seminars, appropriate liturgical texts were suggested, musicians were brought in for demonstration and inspiration, and a panel of ministers developed the music together. At the ends of the seminar, recording of their work were produced, for pastors to take back to their congregations. In this way clergy and congregations could fully embrace their African heritage of oral tradition in learning and performing liturgical music, instead of remaining dependent on Western notation to learn the songs.

These slow steps of musical progress all took place under the crushing hand of “apartheid” policy under British rule. The system legislated segregation and suppression of Africans until it dissolved in 1998. Since then, “choral singing, clapping, body movement, and even drumming is entering worship in the mainline churches more and more often, most of all in those churches in areas where the spirit of resistance to apartheid had been strongest” (Elphick, 325).

Western musical elements certainly maintain their presence through strictly notated music, “to be performed under a conductor’s baton by uniformly robed choirs” (Elphick, 325). But many choirs continue to interpret music with a strong African flair. The resistance that the Xhosa demonstrated in the face of cultural oppression is a microcosm, revealing a larger movement among Africans to claim back their traditional heritage. …. Although highly influenced by European and Christian traditions, Xhosa music today remains, at its core, African."
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This journal article includes an extensive bibliography.

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Friday, October 20, 2023

Various YouTube Videos Of The Xhosa Gospel Song "Bawo" (with a focus on body movements/stances)



Phila Mpofu, Sept. 16, 2023
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Phila Mpofu is the lead singer for this South African high school's rendition of the traditional isiXhosa hymn "Ndikhokhele Bawo". The school is Soqhayisa Senior Secondary School in Motherwell township, Port Elizabeth, South Africa.

The lyrics for that rendition of that song are given in this pancocojams post.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases eight YouTube videos of the traditional* South African (IsiXhosa) Gospel song Ndikhokhele Bawo" with a focus whether these singers perform this song using "traditional" European chorale body stances or any South African (isiXhosa) body stances and movements.

Lyrics for "Ndikhokhele Bawo"  are also included in this pancocojams post. 

The content of this post is presented for cultural, educational, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composer/s and arrangers of this song and thanks to all those who are featured in these showcase videos. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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*Online articles refer to "Ndikhokhele Bawo" as a "traditional Xhosa hymn" and as a "Xhosa folk song" that has been sung by amaXhosa for generations. I haven't found any online reference to this song being formally sung by choirs or chorale groups before the May 13, 2015 YouTube video of South Africa's Tuks Camerata choir performing that a "brand
new version of the song, as arranged by Michael Barrett". [Addendum Showcase video #1 ).

According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ntsikana, the earliest  isiXhosa Gospel songs have been attributed to  Prophet Ntsikana (1780-1821) although "some of these songs have been proved to have been sung by the Xhosas king way before he was born.)"
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Given this information and the information that is given in the journal article by Jonathan Knight*, it's likely that early on the currently popular isiXhosa Christian hymn "Ndikhoklele Bawo" and some other isiXhosa Christian hymns were sung in praise of Xhosa kings before being adopted as Christian hymns.

*Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/10/2010-journal-excerpt-sing-on-ntsikana.html for the pancocojams post entitled "
2010 Journal Excerpt: "Sing on, Ntsikana: The Story of Christian Music Among the Xhosa people of South Africa" By Jonathan Knight". 

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/10/ndiyabonga-bawo-lead-me-father-south.html for the closely related pancocojams post entitled " "Ndikhokhele Bawo"- Traditional Xhosa Gospel Song Performed During High School Morning Assembly"

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LYRICS - NDIKHOKHELE BAWO (IsiXhosa words with English translation) *

Ndikhokhele Bawo, zundi kokhele (Lead me oh Father [Lead me])
Ndikhokhele mmeli wami (Lead me my savior)
Ezintsizini,  Zalomhlaba Bawo (in all the sorrows of this world Father)
(Bawo, Bawo, Bawo) ( Father, Father, Father)
Bawo ndiyabonga (Father I thank you)
Ngoba wena usandigcinile (for you still protect/keep me) (Repeat)

Thaluthele thuze kwami  (You calm all my fears) x2
(Bawo, bawo, bawo) ( Father, Father, Father)
Bawo ndiyabonga (Father I thank you)
Ngoba wena usandigcinile (for you still protect me)

Mmeli wami bawo uthaluthele thuze kwami (Father, Savior, you calm my fears)
Bawo ndiyabonga (Father I thank you)
Ngoba wena usandigcinile (for you still protect me) (Repeat)
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*These lyrics are from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gVt8VNHIOrg ZundiKhokhele, Bawo Ngiyabonga, Usandigcinile (Female Leading Voice, Amazing)#worshipsong #school, published by Luthando Makanda, March 17, 2023

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
"Ndikhoklele Bawo" is a traditional IsiXhosa Gospel song. I believe that the way the singers in these showcase videos (and some other YouTube videos of this song) hold their hands and move while singing "Ndikhoklele" is the same as or very similar to some traditional isiXhosa dance movements.

These hand positions and other body movements also remind me of the movements of members of the Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa (Christian denomination) If I'm not mistaken, I believe that denomination's praise and worship customs are heavily influenced by some IsiXhosa dance traditions. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/10/singing-musical-instruments.html for a pancocojams post entitled "Examples Of UPCSA's (Uniting Presbyterian Church in Southern Africa) Fellowship Of Youth (FOY) Songs (videos, information, & performance analysis).

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DISCLAIMER:
I'm African American who knows very little about African cultures beyond what I watch and read.

Like many people who have heard the South African Gospel song "Ndikhoklele Bawo". I'm very impressed with that song's lyrics and music. I'm also very impressed with the way that many groups (including those showcased in this pancocojams post) have sung it. 

Perhaps because "Ndikhoklele Bawo"is so beautiful and perhaps because of the high quality of many of the choirs and student assemblies whose videos of this song are on YouTube and other social media, few people appear to have focused on those singers' body stances, meaning the ways that the singers incorporate African (and I think specifically Xhosa) hand positions and rhythmic movements in their performances of that song.

I'm interested in reading other observations/opinions on this subject. Thanks!

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Please share your opinions about my observations/opinions about this subject in the comment section below. Thanks! 

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ADDITIONAL VIDEO EXAMPLES
These examples are given in no particular order. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 -



Ndikhokhele Bawo πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ”₯ #amagwijo #choir,2023
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The tempo for the "Bawo" chorus is faster than the one given in Video #2 and the movements are different. The soloist is the same.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3- 
 Ndikhokhele Bawo, Yawa LeMbewu, Mandingasali Medley (Lyrical Video Subtitles English/Xhosa) πŸ˜‡

 

Luthando Makanda, Sep 9, 2023
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This video of "
Ndikhokhele Bawo" has the same lead soloist as the video given as #1 above.
The visuals begin at .25 in this video.

Here's a comment exchange about that same high school assembly's rendition of another South African Gospel song "Ndizolibonga Elakho Igama" .The information about the performance style of that high school students assembly also refers to their renditions of "Ndikhokhele Bawo".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j2lLj2jo5Y, published by Luthando Makanda, August 14, 2023

(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only)
1. @sibongilemncube5374,2023
"Do they rehearse ❤ they sound exceptional. Reminds me of assembly days yhuuuu. The coordination, love the concept of taking assembly time serious and having order which is what the God we serve is about"

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2. @luthandomakanda9180, 2023
"No they don't rehearse, but a synergy exist because when we have assembly they repeat certain songs allowing many to catch the catch the flow of how a song should be, but often times we get surprised by the spontaneity"
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Read another comment and my note about this high school assembly's rendition of "Ndikokhele Bawo" in this pancocojams post's comment section below.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #4- UMG Live Exclusive Session: Mzansi Youth Choir - Ndikhokhele Bawo

 

UMG Live Africa, Oct 12, 2020  UNIVERSAL MUSIC SOUTH AFRICA

Part 2 of Mzansi Youth Choir's Exclusive Session. This one is called "Ndikhokhele Bawo"

We hope you enjoy it!

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #5 - Ndikhokhele Bawo - Wits Choir 2020 Welcome Concert

 

Wits Choir, Jun 14, 2021

Wits Choir and Young Wits Choir performs "Ndikhokhele Bawo" (Bongani Magatyana, arranged by the Wits Choir)
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The University of the Witwatersrand, Johannesburg, commonly known as Wits University or Wits, is a multi-campus public research university situated in the northern areas of central Johannesburg, South Africa.

Nokuthula Grace Magubane, the soloist for Wits' rendition of "Ndikhokhele Bawo", is the woman wearing a white top in the front row who is standing in between the man wearing a green top and the women wearing a blue top.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #6 - 
EHS Senior Choir singing NDIKHOKHELE BAWO at ATKV choir competition

Empangeni High School, Sep 22, 2021

EHS Senior Choir singing  NDIKHOKHELE BAWO at ATKV choir competition.

Conductor - Mr. S D Zwane

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #7 --Ndikhokhele by The Unveiled

 

The Unveiled, Sep 10, 2022  #ndikhokhele #hymns #zimbabwean

#ndikhokhele #theunveiled #gospel  #hymns  #zimbabwean
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"Unveiled" is a Zimbabwean Gospel group. There's a large Xhosa population in Zimbabwe. I believe that this group's performance style for this song is influenced by Xhosa culture.

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ADDENDUM - TWO VIDEOS OF "BAWO" SUNG BY AFRICAN CHOIRS WITH  "TRADITIONAL EUROPEAN CHORALE BODY STANCES

These examples of given in no particular order.

YouTube Video #1 -
Tuks Camerata - Ndikhokhele Bawo (Traditional IsiXhosa arr. M Barrett)



University of Pretoria Camerata, May 13, 2015

The University of Pretoria Camerata, conducted by Michael Barrett, singing the traditional IsiXhosa song, Ndikhokhele Bawo.

This brand new version of the song, as arranged by Michael Barrett for the Camerata, forms part of the choir's repertoire for 2015.

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YouTube Video #2 - NDIKHOKHELE BAWO/NIONGOZE BABA (Lead me Father - sung in isiXhosa & Swahili). Umoja African Choir

Umoja African Choir., Umoja African Choir, Sep 18, 2023

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Tuesday, August 1, 2023

Comments About Africans Loving A Gospel Song Although They Don't Understand The Language It Is Sung In: South African Singer Ayanda Ntanzi Performing "Ngena"


Koko Records, Mar 28, 2019 

Ayanda Ntanzi performing Ngena from the Priestly Worship album recorded live in Durban.
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Statistics for this YouTube video as of August 1, 2023 at 7:15 PM EDT
total # of views -7,915,817 total # of comments -1,818

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This is Part II of a two part pancocojams post series about South African singer Ayanda Ntanzi's performance of the South African Gospel song "Ngena".

This post presents some comments from that embedded video's discussion thread about Africans worshipping God with Gospel music even though you don't understand the language being sung.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/08/south-african-gospel-music-ayanda.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a YouTube video of Ayanda Ntanzi and back up singers and musicians performing "Ngena" in Durban, South Africa.

The Zulu lyrics with an English translation of that song are included in that post along with some comments from that video's discussion thread. The comments that are selected for that compilation are about the song "Ngena" and/or are about that particular performance.

The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composer/s of the South African Gospel song "Ngena". Thanks also to Ayanda Ntanzi and his backup singers and musicians for their musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS POST'S DISCUSSION THREAD

This compilation presents a sample of the comments in that video's discussion thread that refer to people from mostly African nations who wrote that they love the South African religious song "Ngena" even though they don't understand the language used in this song.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8HybmB1hY


2019

1. @joshualumbasi9264
"I don't understand the language but i must say i feel the power of God in this song....

wow wow wow good Job Ayanda Ntanzi... Band is on fire!!!! The BGVs your are absolutely amazing and so lit up.... you have blessed my Soul in Nairobi Kenya!!!!!"

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2. @fredrickfresters3610
"Wooooooow..... This is awesome..... Wow wow wow... I don't understand the language but i feel the anointing...."

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3. @jonathantetteh936
"ME TOOO IM JUST MOVED BY THE SONG"

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4. 
@mcdavisokang5788
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i have been hearing this guy's song on radio in Ghana but we dont understand but he has a good voice and nice music but we want sub titles...lol"

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5. 
@exploretheword
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hallelujah i cannot understand but i can feel it hallelujah"

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6. 
@matakamotanyane3257
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wow, wow thats all i can say. can someone translate for me, i love this song so much. wow"

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7. 
@princemill3313
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am from Ghana , i dont understand a word but i can feel the power in the music and listening to this song give me a different feeling . God bless you . i havent seen any comment giving credit to the drummer . he is just amazing . go back and watch him"

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8. 
@lydiamengo2767
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Wonderful.. am from Kenya. I dont understand the language but just from listening and watching I can feel the power overflowing..

The energy displayed the beats talk of the voices. It's just amazing. Am blessed."

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9. @godblessfam...7318
"Repeated ⁴ times Olord I don't know the lyrics but I can feel the anointing coming through HallelujahπŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²Jamaica is coming in the room I tried to sing with the interpretation but oh no I can't get it πŸ˜‚πŸ€—I just love God any tongue will do wowowoooπŸŒ‹πŸŒ‹"

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10. 
@mpilofundi1602
"That "ngeeeeena" in the beginning of this song took me straight to God😒❤"

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11. @amosnzuki5378,2021
"The music language is indeed universal. I understand not the words, but the atmosphere is electric. Any one who can translate this to English?"

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12. @aj.hats_white8879
"
Need this in English πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ‡―πŸ‡²"

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13. @minstrelefuaboateng1900
"Truly I dont know a word of the language!

But I will kudos to my brother Ayanda

May heavenly grace locate u and fill you up as u win souls through ur ministry

I'm full of goosebumps here

How touching is the strength of ur voice

God bless u AlllπŸ™πŸ™πŸ™πŸ€—"

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14. @zenithline4153
"Whenever I post SA songs on my status, my friends go like "bro, do you understand what they're saying" and I go like, do I need to understand?.... The Spirit has no language barriers.."

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15. @rispathequeen
"I don't understand too but love ther music"

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16. @busimasara2680
"The song is basically saying,, we are all invited to the kingdom of God

There is still room for you to come into the kingdom.

Bless you my brothers and sisters who enjoy the song and yet don't understand the lyrics. Surely The Spirit says Come."

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17. 
@stephanielewis1828
"They tell me the same thing but  πŸ™ŒπŸΏπŸ™ŒπŸΏπŸ™ŒπŸΏπŸ™ŒπŸΏπŸ™ŒπŸΏ"

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18. @softouchstudios9821
"Spirits truly do not have language barriers just let it flow...."

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19. @Mbali_O, 2021
"Some of these songs lyrics and translation are on google and plus always check the youtube comments someone is always ready to translate..much loveπŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦❤"

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20. 
@ethelmanyaka9623, 2021
"@Mbali_O  True"

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21. @illano_g , 2021
"Amen πŸ™πŸΎ"

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22. @thandekachrist9222, 2021
"I  also listen to Nigerian gospel songs and I don't really understand the lyrics but I get blessed anyways"

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23. @veethompson4685, 2021
"Yessss.....The Spirit of YAHWEH has NO Barriers πŸ™ŒπŸΎ... I do not understand what they are saying also BUT I Recognize and UNDERSTAND The Presence of The HOLY SPIRIT πŸ™ŒπŸΎπŸ™ŒπŸΎπŸ™ŒπŸΎ"

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24. @sebentilezanini1085, 2021 
"So true...I listen to Twi and Igbo worship yet I'm a Swazi❤❤❤❤"

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25. @angelakamoga6965, 2021
"I may not understand it but i feel it."

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26. @africa6919, 2021
"Amen"

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27. @Sav.Age, 2021
"Exactly!!!"

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28. @tevercaretv2479, 2021
"Organize for Subtitles please......"

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29. @shamoyepowell4282, 2021
"I get asked the same question. But I feel the spirit regardless"

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30. @bachidzishagwa9611, 2021
"Amen and Amen"

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31. 
@fortunatemsibi7128, 2021
"True ..the spirit doesn't have language barriers πŸ™"

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32. @kezien1, 2021
"That is very true. I do not need to understand but the spirit tells me that its Jehova time."

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33. @boniswalekale242, 2021
"Amen to that! πŸ˜‡πŸ˜‡πŸ™ŒπŸ½πŸ™ŒπŸ½πŸ™ŒπŸ½"

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34. @jabulilephungwayo890, 2022
"@kezien1  yes it true let's prays the Lord same God but different cultures a Amen πŸ™πŸ’–"

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2021

35. @jackvanmoo3946
"This country and this continent we are very blessed I don't understand but I can't get enough

"Mungu Ni mkuu" Swahili"

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36. @brendahchepkemoi3267
"So today is when I got to understand the meaning of this song am in tears 😭there is joy in the lord .listening from Kenya"

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37. @darionjohnson1981, 2022
"Hi Brendah, I hope you are doing well? Can you help me with the English interpretation please -I listen to this everyday and all I know is it is true praise but would like to really join in with understanding..."

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38. 
@luyandangubane3192,  2022
"@darionjohnson1981  Ngena (Come in)

                                   Indawo isekhona (The space is still there)

                                   Amazulu alinde wena (The heavens are waiting for you). I don't know how to put it in proper English but  I hope this will be helpful.πŸ™‚πŸ™‚"

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@darionjohnson1981,2022
"@luyandangubane3192  Thank you so much, it was.  I am watching again with tears in my eyes. To God be the glory...thank you for responding..stay connected!"

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40. @albertomakoba2113
"I love South African Gospel so much. I initially faced challenges related to employed language and its meaning. Over time, with ever growing interest on searching the general and specific meaning of words and expressions, my desire to hear more of the inspiring songs has never plummeted. I truly appreciate their work. Keep it up!"

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41. @graceadesina3107
"Ayanda, your name in Yoruba (a language spoken in Nigeria in the West) means someone that God created specially.I do not understand this song but I listen to this as I drive to work every morning and it does make my day.God bless you.The Holy Spirit surely does not have any language barrier."

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42. @kwamitsetony2350
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These South African gospel musicians are too wonderful. Though, I don't understand the Zulu and other languages spoken of by South Africans, I weep anytime I listen to their gospel music. God bless you all.

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43. 
@roderickfearon1464
"I don't understand the language but OMG, I feel the holy spirit...south african gospel is the best!"

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44. @lungisawilliams3388, 2022
"
Ngena - means "get in" indawo isekhona - means " there is still space" than paraphrased "get in there is room for you ", "get in there is still time to change your life to the Lord", "come in you are welcome in the presence of God Almighty" so - "ngena indawo isekhona" "

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45. @shenacherry346
"I only speak English 😭😭😭 but I felt this"

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(South African Gospel Music) Ayanda Ntanzi - "Ngena" (Part I- video, lyrics, comments)


Koko Records, Mar 28, 2019 

Ayanda Ntanzi performing Ngena from the Priestly Worship album recorded live in Durban.
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Statistics for this YouTube video as of August 1, 2023 at 9:50 AM EDT
total # of views -7,914,465
total # of comments - 1,818

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a two part pancocojams post series about South African singer Ayanda Ntanzi's performance of the South African Gospel song "Ngena".

This post showcases a YouTube video of Ayanda Ntanzi and back up singers and musicians performing "Ngena" in Durban, South Africa.

The Zulu lyrics with an English translation of that song are included in this post along with some comments from that video's discussion thread. The comments that are selected for this compilation are about that song and/or about that particular performance.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/08/comments-about-people-loving-gospel.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post presents some comments from that embedded video's discussion thread about people (mostly Africans) loving a Gospel song even though you don't understand the language being sung.

The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composer/s of the South African Gospel song "Ngena". Thanks also to Ayanda Ntanzi and his backup singers and musicians for their musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT AYANDA NTANZI
From 
https://briefly.co.za/facts-lifehacks/celebrities-biographies/115144-who-ayanda-ntanzi-biography-age-wife-songs-profiles-net-worth
"[Ayanda Ntanzi] was born on January 31, 1992, in Ozwathini, KZN, South Africa. But, unfortunately, his mother passed away when he was just eight years old. His aunts and uncles instead raised him.

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He was born into a family of singers, so he found himself following in the same footsteps at the age of 10....

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His music career started in 2014 after Nqubeko Mbatha took the role of being his mentor. A year down the line, he became signed to Koko Records and released his debut album. The musician and songwriter is signed to Koko Records, where he is set to work with Ntokozo. With a record of humble beginnings, the artist is a rising star today. His debut album saw him gain recognition worldwide, where he earned himself a nomination for Best Newcomer at the SABC Gospel Crown Awards."...

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LYRICS- NGENA (with English translations of the Zulu words)

(as sung by Ayanda Ntanzi and singers)

Sekuntambama, seliyakushona (It is evening, and the sun is setting)
Nank’ amathunzi, asemade wona (And the shadows, are now long)

Refrain
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

(From the Top)

Osadelayo, maye uzokhala (The ones who delay, will weep)
“Usivulele!”, iNkosi izokwala ( “Let us in!” The Lord will refuse)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there’s no more room)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there’s no more room)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

Sekuntambama, seliyakushona (It is evening, and the sun is setting)
Nank' amathunzi, asemade wona (And the shadows, are now long)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

Osadelayo, maye uzokhala (The ones who delay, will weep)
"Usivulele!", iNkosi izokwala ("Let us in!" The Lord will refuse)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)

Osadelayo, maye uzokhala (The ones who delay, will weep)
"Usivulele!", iNkosi izokwala ("Let us in!" The Lord will refuse)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)
Maye! Maye! indawo ayisekho (Oh no! Oh no! there's no more room)

Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
Ngena! Ngena, indawo isekhona (Come in! Come in, there is still room)
-(posted in thisYouTube discussion thread by) @sesujsistertsirhc6770, 2019
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That discussion thread includes several other comments with the lyrics to this song and their English translations. Here's another posting of what may be a Zulu hymnal version of that Gospel song:

Ikhon' indawo (There is a place)
Emthimben' omkhulu (In the heavenly army)
Ebukhosini bukaNkulunkulu (In God’s glorious presence)

Chorus :

Ngena, ngena! (Come in, come in)
Indawo isekhona (There is still a place)

Lomkhos ' ongaka (This great celebration)
uhlatshelwe wena (Is commemorated for you)
Owabhunguka, usubuyel’ ekhaya (—who has gone afar, now you are coming home)

Namp' abasezulwini (Here is the heavenly host)
Bekubhekile (Welcoming you)
Besinga, yebo, nampo bayageba (leaping and dancing in joy)

Osadelayo (The rebellious soul)
maye, uzokhala (Will weep)
"Sivulele Nkosi!" (“Open for us Lord”)
Inkosi iyakwala (The Lord knows you not)

Maye, maye! (*an exclamation of doom and anguish*)
Indawo ayisekho! (There is no longer a place)
-(posted in that discussion thread by @yvonnengema5325, 2020 with this statement:
"173 eCilongweni (Zulu Hymnal) πŸ€—it’s a pleasure"
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Here's some information about "eCilongweni" from https://www.pdffiller.com/101249243-Icilongo-Levangelipdf-icilongo-levangeli :
"Icilongo Levangeli is a Zulu hymnal that is used in Zulu speaking Protestant churches in South Africa.  It contains some of the most famous Zulu worship songs sang in contemporary Gospel music"...
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Some commenters wrote that the English translation for the Zulu words "Ngena, indawo isekhona is " "Come have a seat".

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD

This compilation is only a sample of the comments on this subject from that discussion thread.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT8HybmB1hY

2019

1. @joymnisi1870
"Nice songπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ

The old times kind of vibes, when the gospel was still undiluted and churches were still in UNITY. Now the gospel that is supposed to unite us has been turned to divide us.πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯"

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2. @sibusisiwempanza266
"Haleluyah ,we use to sing this song at primary school and Sunday school.I'm so blessed.Inkosi ikukhulise njalo Br"

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3. @debbiengoma8517
"Thank you everyone you are giving it your all, Ayanda you really transformed this old simple song with your annointed voice and great rendition...but the drummist mmmm.... is on another level, what a fresh annointing, he is gone, gone far, far away... You are all called in time like this...."

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4. @samazwe
"My mom used to sing me this song as a lullaby.....memories!!"

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5. @bonilemilk524
"Eish its also remind my mother and the times when I still a sunday school member"

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6. @busayoodesanya4097
"Please, what is the meaning of Ngena?"

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7. @samazwe
"@busayoodesanya4097  It means: ENTER. The whole song is simply about inviting non-believers to ENTER through the gate (Jesus) while there is still time."

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8. @busayoodesanya4097
"@samazwe  Thank you. Powerful song"

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9. 
@sibahlemazi2371
"The song takes me back to sunday school. Such a powerful way of preaching through hymns and songs"

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10. @keboletsesedibeng2727, 2021
"My mom loves this song so much .she even translate it in sepedi."

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11. @dimphosalang7358, 2021
"Seek the Lord while He can still be found. Come in before the door is closed for that time is coming and now is. Seek yee first the Kingdom of God and its righteousnessπŸ™ŒπŸ™Œ

#ThankYouAyanda

#UmInnnnnn"

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12. @faithmotatinyane2338
"We used to sing this song in the train ministry on my way to varsity everyday :)Good memories."

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13. 
@mpilofundi1602
"That "ngeeeeena" in the beginning of this song took me straight to God😒❤"

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14. @lungelozulu634
"He reminds me of S'fiso Ncwane…...I love you Ayanda!!!!!"

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15. @thembinkosi5166
"The song give me goosebumps, U remind me Sifiso Ncwane may his soul rest in peace nice song Ayanda"

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16. @sandilengwenya7298
"Dankie Ayanda for the Sabu (on Drums) and Bheka (on Bass) collab...dearly missed☺☺☺"

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17. @nakabirigrace8318
"I am about to pack my bags and come to SA. Its like every gospel artist has an intriguing trait. Ntanzi-energetic, Joyous celebration-Beautiful songs, and great singers, Dumimkostad, Bheka Mthetwa, Ntokozo-gifted, Mahalia-inspirational. Why don't you guys do Africa tours? Come to Uganda, we shall gladly pay for the concerts! Thank you. Ngena is such a beautiful and emotional song. Not sure the meaning but its a spirit filled song! kEEP IT UP our brothers and sisters from SA!"

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18. @Sav.Age
"You forgot SPIRIT OF PRAISE especially Benjamin Dube"

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19. @kimbowaandrew8507
"Yes they should come to Uganda, Am seeing most of Joyous's instrumentalists, Especial Sabu satsha on Drums, love you terribly bro, your drums and the energy. And btw @Nakabiri Grace its true all the SA gospel artists each one has a specific trait. So blessed."

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20. @doctaj8641, 2020
"Have you checked their father Bishop Benjamin Dube? Neyi Zimu, Zaza Mokhethi, Omega Khunou, Hlope Nothando, and the entire Spirit of Praise? You will go mad Grace. This team here is something else"

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21. @suprisemaluleke5342, 2020
"Nakabiri Grace we are waiting for United States of Africa ; our losers ( I mean leaders) are just failing us 🏳️"
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These words are written in bold font in that discussion thread.

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22. @NkazimuloCalow, 2020
"You more than welcome to pack your your bags and join usπŸ€—"
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23. @phumlanomdebevana5998, 2021
"7:19 till 7:47 is a sermon πŸ™Œ"

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24. @walternzaka4790, 2021
"please don't forget to pass by our neighbour country Kenya"

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2020

25. @candyanek5814
"Hahahahahha, who else notices that only south Africans can pull off a random shout in the middle of the song and it actually spices up the song.   Hahahaha, hallelujah, that's an anointing BTW."

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26. @matrchl77, 2021
"🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣true"

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27. @walkwithorr, 2021
"πŸ˜‚πŸ€£πŸ˜‚ Dis comment na, it kills me oo!"

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28. 
@wertenantsinRSA
"The backup singers deserve equal praise. They made the song"

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29. @mavismpofu9582
"Hats off to his backing vocalists,soprano jus like in Ewe getsemane,i can see one backing vocalist in soprano who was there ku Ewe getsemane,she is a powerful force jus that i dont know her name,God bless u my dear sister"

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30. @ndhlovulegacypictures1879
"The drum master is always on fire"

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31. @lesegomashigo8867
"Nozipho Phiri is her name."

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32. mavismpofu9582
"Thank you dear, i have googled her and she is the one,Yho she is powerful"

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33. @godisforallnevergiveup9245
"This guy is a real talent, have enough energy. I listen to this almost everyday, Love that talent brother, Love from America USA imagine if its a collaboration ft late Sfiso Ncane"

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34. @bongiwehongwane3448
"My God  i remember my granny diz jst an amazing song , stay blessed Ayanda πŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­"

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35. @lungelomnguni343
"Reminds me of my late grandmother during our evening prayer she used sing this song from Icilongo Levangeli"

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2021

36. @illano_g
"Can we just also S/O the base guitarist and the drummer ❤. Ayanda though πŸ₯°. See ladies these young men in Christ are hot too."

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37. @ese77ajala39
"THE BACK UP SINGERS YA’LL!!!! This is so beautiful! The Lead singer is absolutely captivating. May our Lord Jesus bless y’all for this treasure! The instrumentalists are exceptional as well. This entire song is breathtaking."

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38. @zandiwardle3870
"The type of Gospel that speaks to the soul. This guy uyahlabelela. MayeπŸ’š"

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2022

39. @siziwerejoicengema8590
"Sabu drummerπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒπŸ™ŒAyanda your voice 🀞πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ˜πŸ™Œ"
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40. @lungilesibandze233
"This song reminds me of when churches were still tents...ohhhπŸ™ the praise that would be ther. How the song brings a sense of nostalgia!πŸ™Œ" 

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Sunday, June 26, 2022

Africans Discuss The "Proper" Attire For Women Singing In Gospel Choirs (Comments From A YouTube Discussion Thread About South Africa's Joyous Celebration Gospel Choir)


MY Joyous Celebration, November 2, 2015

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a 2015 YouTube video of the South African Gospel choir Joyous Celebration performing the song "More Than A Conqueror" live at Carnival City, 2012.

This post includes the Zulu and English words that are sung for this song. In addition, this pancocojams post includes selected comments from the discussion thread for this YouTube video. This compilation gives special attention to the comments about the low cut, Western style dresses that were worn by female members of the choir, with the exception of the soloist.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, religious, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Joyous Celebration and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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LYRICS - MORE THAN A CONQUEROR
(as sung by Joyous Celebration; discussion thread comment by Boitirelo Chakalisa, 2019)

UJesu unginqobele (Jesus is the conqueror)
Ngingaphezu komnqobi (More than any other)
UJesu unginqobele  (Jesus is the conqueror)
Ngingaphezu (More than)

Ngingaphezu (I am More)
Phezu komnqobi (More than a conqueror)
NgoJes’ iNkosi yami (Through Jesus my Lord)
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I believe that these words are in Zulu and English. 

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SELECTED COMMENTS
(With special attention to comments about the women's dresses.  These are only a sample of the comments about how the women were dressed.)

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.  


2017
1. BONTLE L MOOKO
"I only understand English, that other part what are they saying..please help me"

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2. THato aka poppy zia
"BONTLE L MOOKO is the same thing but now they singing in Zulu( nginga phezu komnqobi)"

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3. Ronald Tapfuma
"still the same thing in Ndebele"

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4. Ofentse Hamilton KAWE
"Beautiful song but how can the ladies expose their particulars like that?"

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5. Alex Stivo
"HAMILTON KAWE I think the master who leads them is a man so women ♀ can't bear but just in case to follow him πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ™Œ"

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6. linda tutu
"HAMILTON KAWE sometimes you dont realize they are that exposed."

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7. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Particulars πŸ˜„ Smh."

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8. clovis larsson
"nice song, but how can your ladies dress like this, who are you singing for the Lord or who, very bad"

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9. 
God's Phenomenal Girl, 2018
"Job 35:8 Your wickedness affects only a man like yourself and your righteousness only the sons of men..God looks at our inner man, our hearts not the outer us not dressing..it affects us sons of men but not God.."

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10. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"You're absolutely right Clovis. The devil is a LIAR! "Be ye holy, for I am holy." "

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11. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
"
If this was done by whites no one would complain, but because it's our race so they should be told how to dress? We have been following the choir wayback and that's their style so i don't see a need to say so much on a sixteenth installment. Keep going JC as loyal fans we listen to the message not the person delivering it and most importantly not how they are dressed."

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12. Victor G. Setuagbe
"Your songs are just a glorious. waooo, such precious talents of Africa. But I keep wondering what at all could be your motive behind these kind of costumes your ladies keep putting on for almost all your performances.

1 Timothy 2:9a (MKJV)  In the same way also, I desire that women adorn themselves in decent clothing, with modesty and sensibleness...

Please these songs are supposed to be Spiritual songs and nothing else. Thank you."

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13. 
New Original COGIC
"Most are Zulu's and it is not considered nakedness if the women are barechested in their culture"

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14. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"@New Original COGIC  When we invite Jesus into our hearts and decide to live for him, HE alone must become our culture. Jesus Christ is a culture all by himself! And in that culture he expects modesty."

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15. carol lenin
"I love your songs so much but please improve on decency in your dress codes especially ladies. The Lord doesn't change. He is the same yesterday today and forever more. So I don't expect an explanation of generational thing. We are Christians and we should practise what we preach. It makes me listen the to your audios rather watching the videos."

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16. Jacque Brago
"Pls you people should dress properly and let's stop saying God deals with heart not the outward but is in that same scriptures that tells us that what comes out of a man is what has been full in his heart meaning how we dress comes out from the heart so you people should dress descently and I really love your songs."

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17. Faith Netshiozwi, 2018
"carol lenin I see no problem though...But hey..Its your opinion"

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18. NKALA PRECIOUS, 2018
"ae'm Anna Ewa its not a matter of being a western , I am a South African if you are in Christ you must change no culture and Christianity don't go together"

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19. Miriam Luvutse, 2018
"The truth sets us free!  Been wondering too about the decency thing here..... it gives me shivers."

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20. Sam Cheka, 2018
"carol lenin absolutely"

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21. Sylvia Atieno, 2018
"anyone who finds this dressing finds something to sexualize here and thats just sick,...be blessed by the song and move on"

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22. Miss Charlie Hackett, 2019
"THOU SHALT NOT JUDGE!!!!!!!!   WOW! You are willing to violate a commandment? Only GOD can decide about what they wear! You don't live in a glass house!! STOP JUDGING OTHERS!!! I love their singing to the Lord and so does HE!!! Sing sing sing and nevermind these judgmental fools breaking the commandments! Each of us will answer ALONE for our sins! Silly woman judging as if she is perfect! No. Sing, dress and be accountable for YOURSELF. DO NOT JUDGE!  There is a reason it is a commandment! STOP ignoring it! It is at the same level as thou shalt not MURDER so take it seriously and stop judging.

AMEN. Praise GOD and help those who run around judging others...they still don't understand ONLY GOD can judge.  ONLY GOD. ONLY GOD. NOT CAROL!  ONLY GOD."

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23. Ben the Worshiper, 2019
"The problem is not in them it is in you, so sorry"

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24. Liz Pasha, 2019
"I also listen to this song without watching video"

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25. Lord David Tirtowa Kodjo Lembo, 2019
"Hummmm wait until you go n worship with, among the Himbas...We wonder this dress code comes from here."

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26. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"It's not judging for a woman of God to speak on things pertaining to the scriptures with other women of God. As true Christians we are supposed to try the spirits and see if they be of God. If you can't tell those outfits are not God's way..πŸ™πŸ™"

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27. 
Caroline Wanjohi
"don't listen to criticizers keep it up"

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28. 
Molete Boitshepo
"Caroline Wanjohi I totally agree with you. what matters most it's what comes out of the heart. be strong guys coz people will always find a negative thing to say

But I'm loving the choir it's beautiful INSIDE AND OUTSIDE. LOVE YOU GUYS WHOLEHEARTEDLY"

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29. Olatoye comfort
"I mean u can't glorify  God  with indecent  dressing"

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30. Sheila Kimeu, 2018
"Caroline Wanjohi truth be told. and take corrections positively."

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31. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
"Our cultures allows us to dress like that and there is nothing wrong at all. We attend shows to be blessed by the message they diliver not what they are wearing."

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2018

32. hackers mind
"Powerful songs.....but dress code takes your mind back into the world"

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33. James Koleta
"Guys I don't see any problem with there dressing cord because most of this guys are Zulus and they value there culture as any other African language group what comes from the heart matters a lot than what is presented outside"

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34. Onu Tochukwu
"Nice song... Nice instruments... Nice people... but I think the dress code is poor... it doesn't portray Christianity...!!!"

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35. gamu k
"Abo fashion police officers we see youπŸ˜…πŸ˜…πŸ˜‚

 

πŸ˜‚your comments are from 2017 benikhupi all this time mara??"

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36. Shateyi
"Pliz get better dresses"

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37. Fumfon Rosaline, 2020
"Nothing wrong with their clothing, you should instead check your heart and stop judging people. Shalom"

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38. DeCall Music
"i had no option than to put away all your videos bcs of your ladies exposing their bodies..

you sing great but you project immorality."

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39. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘"

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40. Carolyne wanj
"This song is very powerful and it inspires my heart to worship God more,if the ladies improve on their dress code ,then this will be more powerful..Corrections are meant to make you better."

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Sipho Manqele, 2019
"Everyone on stage don't dress themselves, there's a stylist who provide wardrobe. He consults with bosses and if they say "yes" to whatever look he sells to them, then everyone will wear it. It's not that the ladies picked those outfits, it's a uniform liked by the owners of Joyous Celebration Foundation. They think "The brand" then the individuals on stage."

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42. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Agreed Carolyn. It's never appropriate to have your body exposed as a woman of God whether you're on your own in church. People of God need to be spiritual minded, otherwise, you get mess like this."

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43. 
StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"@Sipho Manqele  As true people of God you don't take your que from a "boss" or from a vendor, you take your que from the Holy Spirit, and I can tell you for a FACT, the Holy Spirit did NOT swnd for, or approve these outfits. Be more spiritual πŸ™πŸ˜‡πŸ™"

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44. 
jackline njeri, 2021
"I agree a powerful song with powerful message, the dress code though.."

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Elice E
45. "powerful songπŸ”₯πŸ”₯ And I love the diversity in your costumes, we grew up in different cultures and I truly believe what one believes to be modest is not another person's modesty and the Jesus I know looks at the heart. Hence anybody else's interpretation of your heart does not matter."

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46. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Sounds nice, but untrue. These sisters outfits are the definition of inappropriate  especially for public ministry."
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That word was written in bold font in that discussion thread.

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47. godfrey king
"When white people wear their clothes all you don't have nothing to say praise the Lord nice"

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48. bernard coulibaly
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it's simple just change yr color"

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49. saj humble
"The song is great but the dressing is very worldly and promiscuous"

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50. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Agree. Not Godly at all. You would think there would be at least ONE woman in the group to explain that, but..."

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51. @momanyimose
"This is the highest deception in the   church I have ever seen, open breasts at the Altar ofJehovah!!! Just dance, dance all your way to hell..."

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52. Gideon kipkoech
"cover your Breast worshippers!"

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53. The Eagles Gathering
"The song is beautiful, but there is no nakedness in the presence of the Lord. Please have the fear of God even in your dressing"

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54. Stella Walda
"That Dressing code, No.

The song is awesomeπŸ’œπŸ’œπŸ’œ"

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55. ManassΓ© RestorΓ©
"There is no culture in serving the Lord, please Ladies put some clothes on! Cover your body completely to worship The I AM that I AM. Thanks. I do love the group, i always worship with you, I'm not judging at all !!!!!"

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56. StrongnBeautiful, 2020
"Good word my sista. Thank you."

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57. mfihlakalo dlamini, 2021
"Lol you just did"

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58. 
Gibbs T Gumbo
"Whilst all of you are talking about what is decent & not...i will  live for that lady dancing in the crowd,i doubt if you all noticed her,SHE IS DANCING FOR JESUS '....... big up JC"

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59. Davies Mataza
"So, no one is paying respect to the pianist and drumist ? He killed it!"

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60. MatlinLtd Co, 2020
"I agree."

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61. Steven Levitt, 2021
"The bassist πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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62. StrongnBeautiful
"Idk who came up with the idea for their wardrobe, but they are obviously not spiritual. Sad."

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63. StrongnBeautiful
"First time hearing of this group. Loved the song, then I look down at the video and saw the women's outfits πŸ˜―πŸ˜•πŸ˜– People of God, do NOT let the devil fool you with his lies and nonesense. As TRUE people of God, what we wear ALWAYS matters! There is a standard to holiness and it goes far beyond ANY culture. Wonderful praise but please, study your bible more, and πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™ Also, FIRE your stylist. Thank you. PtL! πŸ˜„☺πŸ˜‡"

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64. StrongnBeautiful
"The dress is inappropriate. They need some SPIRITUAL aged women to guide them.  May the Holy Spirit help them, as he continues to use them."

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65. Velmah Hongo
"Powerful song....but DRESSING CODE FOR THE LADIES IS A NO!"

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66. D.J. #watchthisgamerevolves
"Ladies you worshipping god at least cover your bodies properly... Love the songs tho...."

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67. Gladys Ndzinisa
"Ohhh yes we will conquer even covid"

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68.  OBI DANIEL AKACHUKWU
"The song is good. I love the lyrics

Please some of  the #dressing isn't okay.

They are all ministers and should pls be cautious with what they wear"

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69. 
Steven Viyano
"😭😭😭 This song ministered to me when I had lost faith"

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70. d_yt
"I just love how she gave the mic to the audience. I was literally shouting at my screen "I AM MORE, MORE THAN A CONQUERAAAAAHH THROUGH CHRIST MYYYY LORD!" πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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71. Melissa Mathema
"so its in middle of the pandemic and i cant help but sing along this amazing song ngoba usinqobele mpela uThixo!"
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Google translate from Xhosa to English: “for God hath dealt bountifully with us”

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Tuesday, May 12, 2020

"Jerusalema" by South African musician & record producer Master K featuring Nomcebo (video & comments)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision (title change) - Jan/ 31, 2021

This pancocojams post showcases the official YouTube video of "Jerusalema" by Master KG featuring Nomcebo.

The lyrics to the South African song "Jerusalema" is included in this post along with comments about how this 2019 song came from the Hymn/Gospel song "Ndilondoloze".

The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Master K and Nomcebo for their musical legacies. Thanks also to all those who are featured in all of the videos that are embedded in this post. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Master KG - Jerusalema [Feat. Nomcebo] (Official Music Video)




Openmic Productions, Premiered Dec 13, 2019
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Statistics as of May 12, 2020 at 11:41 AM EDT
Total # of views- 17,709,577
Total # of likes- 227K
Total # of dislikes- 9.3K
Total # of comments- 13,935

Master Kg sits on top of the world as one of the most decorated musicians of his generation as a recipient of the coveted continental and African diaspora Afrima 2018 Award for Best Electro and Dance; Afrimma 2019 Award for Best Male Southern Africa; SABC Summer Song 2018 for Skeleton Move; and the Limpopo Music Award for Best House Single for Skeleton Move.

On this smash hit he features the multitalented vocalist Nomcebo Zikode who is better known for blessing sweet vocals on Emazulwini and Imizamo Yami.
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_KG for more information about Master KG.

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LYRICS: JERUSALEMA

Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)
Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)

Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)
Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)

Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)

Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)
Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)

Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)
Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)

Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)
Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)

Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)

Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)
Jerusalema ikhaya lami(Jerusalem is my home)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Uhambe nami(Walk with me)
Zungangishiyi lana(Do not leave me here)

Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)
Ndawo yami ayikho lana(My place is not here)
Mbuso wami awukho lana(My kingdom is not here)
Ngilondoloze(Guard me)
Zuhambe nami(Walk with me)

online source: https://afrikalyrics.com/master-kg-jerusalema-translation
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Here's a comment from the discussion thread for the official YouTube video (embedded above). This comment is directed to one of the people who posted the lyrics to that song:
Islesofhome, 2020
"THANKS Bro but you forgot one thing: Master KG's now famous intro- Wanitwa Mos!"
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And here's some information from https://genius.com/Genius-south-africa-translations-master-kg-jerusalem-english-translation-lyrics
question: "Is it a gospel song?
reply: "Yes it’s a Zulu gospel chorus sung in church to praise Him."

Written By Nomcebo & Master KG
Release Date: October 11, 2019"

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COMMENTS ABOUT MASTER KG'S & NOMCEBO'S SONG "JERUSALEMA"
Excerpt #1
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SanoEBSx7Ig MASTER KG - JERUSALEMA FT. NOMCEBO | REACTION VIDEO by Mansa Mayne, Dec 23, 2019

(with numbers added for referencing purposes only)

1. Letlhogonolo Esau, 2020
"This song is actually a hymn but a house version."
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The word "house" in this comment refers to South African "House" music. Here's information about two South African forms of house music from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Styles_of_house_music
"Afro house
African music mixed with a house beat. Afro house is a sub-genre of house music, with its roots predominantly in South Africa. A fusion of kwaito, tribal, deep and soulful house music, in South Africa it is classed as deep house or soulful house, although it has its own unique sound and is reflected in the musical style – particularly in the “stripped back” original percussion sounds and rhythms of South African culture.[1]

Amapiano
Amapiano is a popular style of house originating in Gauteng, South Africa in mid to late 2010s. Amapiano is a sophisticated hybrid of deep house, jazz and lounge music characterized by synths, airy pads and wide basslines."

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2. Noxie Mvula, 2020
"The reason its emotional is because it's based on a hymn, it's actually a prayer "ngilondoloze" means "protect me, watch over me".

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3. Asiphe Madonda, 2020
"No she's not talking about nature she's talking about Jerusalem and God , Jerusalem is a place thats mentioned in the Bible. She's asking God to be with her and show her the way and all that"

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4. TF Mkhonza, 2020
"For now it's a top song in SA the like of Umlilo n Amatorokisi, for me Jerusalem is the song of the year in SA."...

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4. Thuli Dlamini, 2020
..."This is an old Gospel Song that is usually sung in funerals here in South Africa. It means "THIS EARTH IS NOT MY HOME, JERUSALEM IS MY HOME. GID [correction GOD] PLEASE TAKE CARE OF ME AND NEVER LEAVE ME ALONE"
Indeed it is an emotional song that Master KG has turned into a very good dancing song. In SA most of the times, at the parties and clubs when people are really drunk they start singing Gospel Songs. I suppose that is where Master KG found an inspiration from to turn Gospel song into a dancing song but I personally feel that he did do good by his version of the song with this kind of video.
The video is good if the song was in Church version but he made the song in the groove version, where people are supposed to be dancing and having fun and the video just takes straight to the funeral. I personally think, the video is contradicting the vibe of the song.

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5. The Alex, 2020
"I was at a club last night and this was the last song they played at closing time. You can't even get mad that they closing at 2am and you not about sleepπŸ˜’. Great song!"

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6. Okuhle Osh, 2020
"At a party you don't know whether to dance or pray when this song is playing.

It's really an end of the party song."

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7. Thabisile Makhoba, 2020
"Lool true"

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celeste ahouma, 2020
"u can dance AND pray πŸ™πŸΎπŸ€£"
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8. Boitumelo Roopher, 2020
"You're truly getting thee vibe bro'.... a song at the end of a party especially new year 00:00 when you talk to God saying "please Lord protect and be with me". A gospel song in a vibey way"

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Excerpt #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B1-5uAHqrvM&t=337s Master Kg - Jerusalema [Feat. Nomcebo] | That American Reaction; published by That Fire LA, Jan 3, 2020
1. Noxolo Ayanda, 2020
"Jerusalema is Jerusalem from the bibleπŸ˜‚actually the lyrics are from church song."

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2. ToughBlackseed, 2020
"This song though of gospel genre is a great party Jam also.( I don't think it has a thing to do with "gangsters' paradise"). It was played at a friend's 40th birthday party on the 26th of December, and the dancefloor was jammed up.....in port Harcourt Nigeria, not in South Africa or anywhere in that region. It's a fantastic song...Nocembo showed out incredibly."...

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3. TarCarNey Hail, 2020
"πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚ πŸ˜‚It is Jerusalem as in the one in the bible. This is a gospel song with a twist πŸ˜‰

"Jerusalem ikhayalami" translate to Jerusalem my home ( sort of in the afterlife)

There is also a South African film with the same name. But that's not what she is singing about

Master Kaygee comes from the same province (Limpopo) as Sho Madjozi 😁"

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4. Thuli Dlamini, 2020
"A Gospel song with a twist is great way of describing it.

This indeed is a classic Gospel song here in South Africa, normally sung at funerals, as you see the lady
in the video wearing black and picking dead tree leaves and throwing them on air.
The original song means, Jerusalem is my home that I love, all my hopes and dreams will be achieved when I arrive at my home (Jerusalem).

You see, in Africa when Missionaries came and introduced Christianity and the Bible, African people thought that the places mentioned in the Bible, were in heaven because they had never heard of such places! Also the Missionaries always emphasized that Jerusalem was the Holy place of God. So African people assumed that when you are a Christian, you die and go to heaven and be able to see the Holy Jerusalem. Therefore they composed songs about how they longed to see Jerusalem and calling Jerusalem their eternal home. This is where this JERUSALEMA song comes from. I guess Master KG turned it to a dance song because here in South Africa, at the groove have a tendency of singing Gospel Music when they are tipsy. So he wanted them to have a sing along that they can dance to.

There are many other DJ's here in SA who have successfully turned Gospel songs into a good dance song without changing the meaning of the song, one of them is Bojo Mojo."
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I reformatted this comment to enhance its readability.

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5. Mulanga Tunchie, 2020
"Jerusalema is the same as Jerusalem Big Raph.. Its a south African accent... Actually the song is saying Jerusalem is my home..

This song Jerusalema is a prayer to God.. The singer is simply saying "Jerusalem is my home (ikhaya lami)

Ngi londolose means God protect me, Unga ngini shiya Lana means don't leave me

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6. Tumi, 2020
"Jerusalema song is unrelated to the the movie u searched. She's referring to Jerusalem."

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7. Henry Dube, 2020
"He should check out that movie too, great movie. A version of this song is played there too."

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8. Jacqueline Hicks, 2020
"its a church song with beats......."Jerusalem my sweet home". its just recorded on good house track.
basically they are praising the Lord, just like " shackles" of Mary Mary."

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9. lwazi ben,2020
"only thing i wanted to hear was you pronouncing Nomcebo and ohhh boy lol hahaha i knew it was gonna be a challenge and would like someone to help you on this because the name has a click and its not easy for you to realize that"
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"Realize" here probably means "pronounce that correctly".

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10. Penelope Mnisi, 2020
"Heloooo there, they singing about the Jerusalem in the bible it's just written/pronounce in the Zulu language. The song is not related to the movie. To pronounce Nomcebo You say Nom (the tip of your tounge at the back of your teeth) cebo. ✌I hope it helps. I'm in S.A."

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11. Hleh Sihle, 2020
"Nomcebo means wealth"

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12. Vannuge Jiiko, 2020
"This song is on fire all over Southern and Eastern Africa πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ˜❤️"

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