African American YouTube Vlogger Mansa Mayne (Tshepo) Gets Another South African Name: Cultural/ethnic implications of South African names conferred to African Americans

Mansa Mayne, June 27, 2022
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Edited by Azizi Powell  

This pancocojams post showcases a Mansa Mayne YouTube vlog and presents some comments from that vlog's discussion thread and from two other Mansa Mayne vlog discussion threads. 

These comments provide the origins and meanings for certain first names from the nation of South Africa and/or focus on the cultural/ethnic implications of Mansa Mayne being given a Zulu name by a South African man and using that name instead of the Tswana name that some South African subscribers to his YouTube blog gave him several years ago.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and onomastic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Mansa Mayne for promoting African music through his YouTube vlogs and thanks to Mansa Mayne for sharing his experiences in South Africa with the world. Thanks also to Mansa Mayne's brother and all others who are featured in this embedded vlog. Thanks also to all those who ae quoted in this post.

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BACKGROUND INFORMATION ABOUT MANSA MAYNE 
Mansa Mayne is the self-coined name for an early thirty year old African American YouTube vlogger who became popular (particularly among Africans and even more so among people from the nation of South Africa) as a music reaction vlogger. Music reaction vloggers are people who play a music video-presumably for the first time- and share their reactions to that song/video. Music reaction vloggers also encourage their online viewers to share their reactions to that same video and their reactions to the vloggers' opinions about that song/video in the discussion thread of that vlog. Music reaction vloggers also encourage their  viewers to recommend other songs/videos to showcase on their vlog channel.

In December 2021 Mansa Mayne visited the nation of South Africa for the first time. During that visit he switched his role from a music reaction vlogger to a travel vlogger. Travel vloggers are those who share scenes of their travels and share some of the experiences that they have during their travels. 

In late June 2022 Mansa Mayne returned to South Africa accompanied by his biological brother Lionel. Both Mansa and Lionel documented that visit as travel vloggers. During the early part of that second visit, a Johannesburg, South African uber driver gave Mansa Mayne and his brother  Zulu first names. Mansa was given the name "Sansele" and his brother was given the name "Siyabonga."  Most of the comments in this August 2022 pancocojams post focus on some of the comments from discussion threads for three Mansa Mayne vlogs about Mansa using the Zulu name Sansele instead of the Twana name "Tsepho" that South African subscribers to his music reaction vlog had given him around two years ago. Additional comments in this post present origins and meanings for the Zulu name Siyabonga and for a few other South African names that were found in those discussion threads.    

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/12/african-american-youtube-vlogger-mansa.html for a previous pancocojams post about Mansa Mayne in South Africa entitled "African American YouTube Vlogger Mansa Mayne Visits South Africa In December 2021 In Spite Of Covid-19's Omicron Variant". That post presents some biographical information about Mansa Mayne and how he coined that particular name for himself. 

Also, click the "Mansa Mayne in South Africa" tag below for other pancocojams posts about that vlogger.
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Pancocojams Editor's Note [Added August 3, 2022]
I've focused on African American vlogger Mansa Mayne because of the linguistic and other cultural information about South Africa that I've found in his YouTube music reaction discussion threads and his YouTube travel discussion threads.

I've also focused on Mansa Mayne because I'm interested in the sociological/psychological ramifications of an African American young man who embraces aspects of a culture (or cultures) different from his own (i.e. South African amapiano music, dance and its associated lifestyles) and is treated like a celebrity when he visits South Africa, even though he doesn't appear to deeply understand the history and cultures of that nation.

I'm also interested in the ramifications of those South Africans who had/have treated Mansa Mayne as a celebrity inspite of what appears to me to his lack of deep knowledge and understanding of the indices and the dynamics of their cultures. What does that say about the South Africans who have so readily stanned this African American man because he embraced some aspects of their culture/s? Will they continue to stan him if he doesn't heed the information and explanations that some South African commenters have given him in these vlog discussion threads? (for instance the comments below about Mansa Mayne shucking the Sotho/Tswana name that had been given to him by his South African subscribers two years ago and replacing that with a Zulu name, perhaps because the Zulus are much more well known and have more cache among African Americans than other South African ethnic groups, i.e "Chaka Zulu". When called out because of this action, Mansa Mayne wrote that he was just joking and would still use his Sotho/Tswana name. That response then led to commenters chiding him that tribalism isn't a joking matter in South Africa.)... 

I wonder if Mansa Mayne will go back to being a music reaction vlogger when he returns to the United States (a role that he excelled in), or if he will decide to relocate to South Africa where he is treated as a celebrity?  We shall see what we shall see.

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT SOUTH AFRICAN NAMES FROM THREE MANSA MAYNE VLOGS 

All of these comments are from June 27, 2022 to August 2, 2022. 

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only 

DISCUSSION THREAD #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SjXsubRCgwc "my uber driver gave me a zulu name… I’m back in Jozi!", published by Mansa Mayne, June 27, 2022

These comments are from June 27, 2022 to August 2, 2022. 

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1. Vivian Naledi
"What's popping Mansa Mayne in the streets of joburg another day another week another Vlog yeah 🔥 it's lit fire,,, This guy he got a New Zulu name Sanele 😂Mansa Mayne Tshepo Senele,, Our celebrity Vloger...I feel like Scree Scree"

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2. Songezo-Ephraim Chiya
"the funny part is that the Uber driver's name is THEMBA, which is a Zulu version of TSHEPO!!!"

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3. Jabu Mfuphi
"Nice one 🥺😍👌🏾 the Uber driver gave y'all beautiful meaningful names Sanele - you're enough or we are enough. Siyabonga - we are thankful"

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4. Cedrick Ngoetjana
"Sanele Mayne 🔥🙌🏽😅"
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5. P Ma Mbongwe
"But Sanele doesn't really have meaning in this case. I don't like it. The guy just gave you any name"

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6. Sankara Zulu
"Sipho is a suitable name... u gifted SA"

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7. Songezo-Ephraim Chiya
"the funny part is that the Uber driver's name is THEMBA, which is a Zulu version of TSHEPO!!!"

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8. Mapaila Mbewe
"Right!!! 🤦‍♀️I dunno how I overlooked that one 🤐"

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9. Linamandla Lizo
"😂😂😭"

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10. Unbothered Maverick
"He's a tribalist"

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11. P Ma Mbongwe
"@Unbothered Maverick  how???"

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12. Unbothered Maverick
"@P Ma Mbongwe  there's nothing wrong with Tshepo, he gave them Zulu names because he's zulu, without an understanding that he just translated the name unaware."

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13. P Ma Mbongwe
"@Unbothered Maverick  Im Zulu too and like Tshepo  more but did he know this before giving them names? Ixoki la uMansa for saying "I'm ditching Tshepo" 😂"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: "Ixoki la uMansa" ="Mansa is a liar"

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14. Kekeletso Thekoeng
"😂😂😂 yea"

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15. Jeremiah 🇿🇦
"How ironic 🤣🤣🤣🙄🙄🙄"

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16. Ayanda Portia
"@P Ma Mbongwe  I think he just loves Zulu Name"

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17. Ms P 🌻
"You can't be Sanele man. SA gave you a name and you changing it bcoz of Themba 😨?

Siyabonga is a good name for your bro. Mr charmer boy, Siya for short."

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18, Hlanganani Chauke
"You still Tshepo from limpopo 🤣🙈😊"

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19. La'Mash
"@Mansa Mayne South Africa is a diverse country,if you wanna make everyone happy here don't include cultures just enjoy South Africa without making it like you are praising cultures we South Africans knows that this culture "Zulu" their people are too proud,egotistical and look down on other cultures in SA because they believe they are superior  than other cultures/languages,so when you post anything that is of their culture because they are egostic people they tend to think you like them more than the rest of other cultures then they tend to show their ego and arrogance like I saw some already calling you "Zulu" but before that with Tshepo you were just been called "South African" make everyone happy don't drop Tshepo which is Sotho-Tswana name (Sotho,Pedi and Tswana) You might not know but yes Zulu people are arrogant in SA they like starting fights,they think they own SA which has 9 provinces and 11 or more languages of which we just keep quiet Soloko sithule sibekile🤔 si yi South Africa a bunch of Kzn people are the ones who does more of that than the Zulus in Mpumalanga and Gauteng because Kzn is mainly Zulu and they dont know how it is to mix with other cultures,because they are so closed in that cave of KZN all they see is Zulu and all they date is Zulu,

I'm in Gauteng I am from a certain culture I won't mention but I'm dating Zulu not from Kzn but from Mpumalanga  and our child is from both cultures  and has names in both cultures  and speak two of those languages ,so when you say you are dropping Tshepo some Zulus because they always think they are the "thing" they boost and all of a sudden you are Zulu?...why when you were called Tshepo everyone was like "You are SouthcvAfrican now luckily Sotho-Tswana people don't like drama,not boostful and not emotionally unstable.How about you take both names without ditching the other? and I know this comment is gonna hurt them who are emotionally  unstable  and they gonna start insulting me but I don't have time to read yall comments I was talking to Mansa here,because seems he doesn't know who Zulu people are and how they act like those people are vultures Mansa

THANK YOU 😊
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20. Mansa Mayne
"I was joking. Lol don’t take me serious please 🥲 I’m still Tshepo"

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21. La'Mash
@Mansa Mayne  thank you but please know Zulus don't joke they tend to think they are very important in South Africa they can become tribalist very bully culture."

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22. DIY Crafts+ Hacks 101
"La'Mash  you are not wrong,I hate division matter of fact is that he is in South Africa and South Africa is diverse but when you know you know some people are starting to call him Zulu just to cause chaos 🙄"

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23. La'Mash
"@DIY Crafts+ Hacks 101  I had to air their dirty laundry,when they see visitors they tend to act innocent  but it doesn't  take long for them to reveal their behavior very  very bully so glad my man is different  maybe because he is from Mpumalanga they mixed in Mpumalanga"

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24. Olwethu Khuzwayo
"Don't make it seem like every Zulu person is arrogant and proud

Rather than says Zulu people say SOME Zulu people because it's not all of us

Every tribe has proud and arrogant people

Singling out zulus will make you look like tribalist

Kodwa ke angilwi 🚶🏾‍♀️"
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Google translate from Zulu to English:
"Kodwa ke angilwi 🚶🏾‍♀️"= "But I'm not fighting 🚶🏾‍♀"

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25. Sie Zulu
"Thank God ❤ tired of the Tshepo name 😂  SANELE 👏 tbh Mansa deserve SIYABONGA name cause we're thankful for what he does 🤷🏾‍♀️ but Sanele is cool too 😎"

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26. Nokukhanya Wanda
"We are tired of Tshepo name😂😂"

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27. DiversNoble
"TSHEPO ARMY WILL MISS MANSA 🧍🏾"

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28. Thandeka Ndebele
"But honestly u look like a Tshepo though"

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29. Ntando Xulu
"Arican names have meaning depending on the situation the name is given

Like if a family have been trying to have a baby for a long time when it finally arrives the name becomes syabonga because its like we are grestful and thankful to god"

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30. WalkWithOrr
"🙆 Eish! The driver wanna cause war of names😅🙈"

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31. SPICE FIX
"You know this culture has a problem"

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32. Qhawe
"Sanele your nickname is Sandza ❤️"

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33. Ellard Birons
"Sounds like a girl name sanele 😆"

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34. Zanele Mpanza
"Noooh galz are Zanele 😂😂😂"

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35. Lulonke Lulo
"Sanele mean's we are tired"

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36. Hle Lee
"No, in a name it means we are enough normally it's parent who are giving birth one gender let's says boys only then the last born boy is called Sanele"

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37. Thobeka's Lifestyle
"Actually it means we are complete 😂😂. Same as Sphelele. In Xhosa yes, Sonele is "we are tired"

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38. zanele princess ngcobo
"@Thobeka's Lifestyle  So when you name a baby as Sanele and Sphelele you mean you are tired?😂😂😂In Zulu those are beautiful names.They mean "We have finally gotten  what we've been longing for🤗"

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39. Qhawe
" @Thobeka's Lifestyle  No it means we are in enough. Doesn’t mean we are tired 😂"

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40. T Mash
" @Qhawe  It can mean both, depends on the context"

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41. TOP 10 AFRICA
"It means we are satisfied"

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42. Mampuru Rantlha
"You have two names now, don't cancel the other, you are Tshepo Sanele, both names are powerful Tshepo means Trust  👊🏿"

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43. Palesa Mogorosi
"No, you are Tshepo. 😯"

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44. God'sBabe Born-again
"The betrayal to the Sotho tribe is real 😳 I'm also shocked."

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45. Zipporah Your Explorer 👣
" @God'sBabe Born-again  There's no betrayal here. Allow the guy to have his own preference, we don't own him. Let's keep in mind that it was Nasty C who inspired his YouTube career, no naturally he'll be drawn towards his tribe. It's really not that deep, just simple."

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46. DIY Crafts+ Hacks 101
"@Zipporah Your Explorer 👣  true but he must use both names not to ditch the other."

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47. tumelo mothoa
"U will always be our Tshepo 🥰"

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48. Sinethemba Buthelezi
"So you have a Tswana name (Tshepo) and now a Zulu name (Sanele)😂😂 what about a Xhosa one?😂"

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49. Hope Buhali
"His Xhosa name is Xolani or Vuyo maybe. 🤭"

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50. Sinethemba Buthelezi
"@Hope Buhali  I don't think he's be able to pronounce Xolani but Vuyo is alright😂 it even suits him😅"

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51. mduduzi ngwenya
"Andile although it has a similar meaning to Sanele if I'm not mistaken"

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52. loxymandles
"@mduduzi ngwenya  Andile means we have expanded and Sanele is the ending. We are content"

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53. Ma Mbongwe
"@Hope Buhali  nah, don't give him one that is also Zulu. Go for Yanga and Vuyo  etc"

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54. Sesotho Music Hub
"Mansa you are Tshepo ..! Leave the battle of Zulus and Sothos to us bro🤣🤣🤣!! Welcome back to Jozi!"

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55. Rshozi son za
"Zulu name ohoo yeah you got de vibe mansa 🐐🎯"

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56. Nthabiseng Masia
"No, you can't change the name Tshepo,  the ancestors will be Sad, that name means Hope."

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57. R DA-GAMA
"Syabonga its my favourite south African name!"

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58. Ntando Xulu
"African names have meaning depending on the situation the name is given

Like if a family have been trying to have a baby for a long time when it finally arrives the name becomes syabonga because its like we are grestful and thankful to god"

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59. Maggie Sebeso
"Nah u still Tshepo..aka Themba..."

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60. Hlengiwe Kunene
"TshepoThemba lol"

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61. P Ma Mbongwe
"Tell your brother he's Siya"

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62. Precious Mwanika
"Sanele suits you as a well"

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63. Thapelo Maboea
"Themba is Tshepo in (Tswana,Sepedi and Sotho ) he could have translated it 😅😅"

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64. Nkululeko Cele
"Division gallore bru, why you ditching the Twana name😂😂😂😂😂😂✅

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65. Coco X
"Fun fact: Most ZULU names are actually a prayer/message (uMthemelezo) directed to God or ancestors. Parents typically name their kids by their own feelings and their experience during the pregnancy or birth.

If your name is Siyabonga - that means your parents/family were GRATEFUL for you.

And Sanele - means your parents/family were FULLFILLED after your birth, most Saneles are last borns or they were supposed to be last borns."

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66. Pam Lemmen
"You naled it Sisi 💯"

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67. Mapaila Mbewe
"I guess in this case  Sanele means (Mansa Tshepo Sanele  has show cased south Africa to the world beyond believe he has broken all the stereotypes about South Africa and Africa as whole so we r enough sanele u have done your bit is up to the rest of the world to experience the rest of Africa or not u have done your part I salute mansa Tshepo Sanele u r blessed & unique stay humble the rest of your fans wish we can invite u individually to our humble abode but unfortunately we can't but seeing you on every social platforms is enough ❤️❤️❤️❤️🥰🥰🥰. WE Thank you 🙏🏿"

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68. JT Talbert
"Sawubona Siyabonga! Glad you got an SA name now! You were well overdue for one. Lol My SA name is S’fiso (means wish) which was given to me by my friend Buli in 2019."

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69. Unathi Tolbart
"I saw your surname and i was shook my surname is Tolbart but it’s rare in SA it’s always Tolbert or Talbert"

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70. JT Talbert
"@Unathi Tolbart  our surname has had variations over the years."

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71. Frank Baloyi
"you are still Tshepo to me. that uber driver just doesn't want to share the same name with you. Themba means Tshepo"

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72. WalkWithOrr
"😅😅the battle of languages Sotho vs Zulu."

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73. bree
"Lol😂😂😂not  mansa abandoning our sotho name for sanele yoo"

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74. Nozipho Nxumalo
"🤣🤣🤣 Mansa loves the Zulu culture muxoleleni"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: "muxoleleni"= "forgive him".

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75. tumelo mothoa
"He will always remain our Tshepo 😂"

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76. Hlengiwe Kunene
"@tumelo mothoa  you're correct haya Limps ke Tshepo haya kzn ke Sanele 🤣🤣🤣
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Google translate from Sepedi to English: "I’m from Limps, I’m from Tshepo, I’m from KZN,  I’m from Sanele"
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Here's what I think that sentence means in standard American English -"If I'm from Limpopo, I'll call him Tshepo. If I'm from KZN (Kwa Zulu Natal), I'll call him Sanele."

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77. Sthe_ZAR
"It is what it is,he literally said no more of that other name, he's name is Sanele 🔥."

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78. Sthe_ZAR
"This guy 🤣,no more Tshepo, I'm Sanele now I'm Zulu 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣."

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79. Thandeka zulu
"Sanele means Enough and Syabonga means "we thank you".  You'll are enough, you are Kings and we are thankful to you for showing our country to the world❤️❤️"

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80. Siyabonga Masuku
"5:11 😂😂😂 "Siyabonga" the name of a person means; we are grateful (or thankful). She explained it well. Siyabonga's are generally good people."

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81. Mthobisi Khumalo
"They are very good people... lol but can be baaad at times especially when you shorten their name to "Siya..." 🤣🤣🤣"

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82. Mbalenhle Macaringue
"O MaSiya😂😂😂"

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83. Cebo88
"@Mthobisi Khumalo  A Siyabonga stole my merc and wrote it off. I've since hated that name."

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84. Siya Nxumalo
"Impela Zwide kunjelo, singabantu aba right kakhulu."
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Google translate from Zulu to English: After all, we are very righteous people.

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85. Siya Nxumalo
" @Mthobisi Khumalo  Naah bro.😂😂😂🤣😂😂"

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86. Siboniso Brian
"Did you know that Sun El Musician is also Sanele"

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87. Sthe_ZAR
"Yup 🔥"

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88. Bellina Phokwane Motaung
"Hey Mansa... welcome to Jozi again. As a South African you can have up to four names from each ancestral clan you belong to. You are officially now Mansa Tshepo (Hope) Sanele (Content)."

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89. Purify Moore
"Mansa Tshepo Sanele Mayne is in the building 😍😊"

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90. Owethu Fisokuhle
"Sanele your name is for male , Zanele is a female name dont miss pronounce them  lol"

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91. Mat Shep
"I still vibe with Tshepo ✌✌"

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92. tumelo mothoa
"All the way 🙌🏽🙌🏽"

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93. Hlanganani Chauke
"Me too"

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94. Sanele Cabe
"I am honored to share the name with you Mansa 🤣👊🏾"

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95. Lucky Mnisi
"Let me help you pronounce mybe...Sanele(Sun-nel-eh)"

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96. Mpho Sithole
"Dear Mansa, nope I will continue to call you Tshepo, you can continue to be Sanele but Tshepo (Hope) it is for me you brought hope globally which is so inspiring. MphoS"

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DISCUSSION THREAD #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78TEg3ho0GY  "I had some of the best braai meat in Johannesburg!", published by Mansa Mayne, Jul 2, 2022

1. Gertrude Sihlangu
"Hi Sanele, please don't forget that your first south African name is Tshepo, before Sanele, I.... it is the name that "we the SA fans who started with you", when you started reacting to SA music when you used to to introduce yourself as "Mansa Honco",... we gave you your SA first Sotho name out of love, please don't forget that,... Not that I have anything against Sanele but please don't forget your first SA name... TSHEPO❤️😍😍😍🔥🔥🔥🇿🇦💯"

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2. P Ma Mbongwe
"Hahahahahahahahaha. Why dies it even matter guys? I know Zulus our here wouldn't even mind if it was the other way around but I get that Tshepo goes way back"

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3. Sisi Me
"I like that you said hi Sanele😂😂"

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4. Ntsika Mkhize
" @Sisi Me  uyaz naye ukuthi usanele lo 🤣🤣"
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5. Tshepi
"🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 He must not forget Limpopo while at it hahaha"

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6. ACCOUNT RETIRED
"Oh how petty and cringe"

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7. Sthembile Nxumalo
"I wasn’t vibing with Tsepo. He needed a Zulu name because Zulus are recognised globally"

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8. zgm kwambo
"Ah our Zulu boy,welcome to Zulu nation Sanele 😄"

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9. Lalina
"Great vlog! Keep em comin...its Siyabonga..."onga" 😆 Not "are-nga" Sanele."

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10. Nomusa Khumalo
"Not me literally walking around Jozi with my eyes wide open 👀👀👁👁 hoping to bump into Mansa Sanele Mayne-Ngcobo aiii lutho shame guys💔😭😭😭😭🤣"

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11. 777 Butep 💧
" "Sanele", you're a Zulu man now 😂😂😂😂😂😂 welcome to the Zulu Kingdom 🤗🇿🇦"

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DISCUSSION THREAD #3
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WvAI0GvCud8 "Stuck in South Africa now 😲", published by Mansa Mayne, August 1, 2022

All of these comments were published on August 1, 2022 to August 2, 2022

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1. MG
"You can ask when he was given the name Tshepo by his first subscribers where were those who just pump up and say he's Sanele all those years? without thinking about the people who first supported him, in other cultures you can't give your child a name and suddenly in-laws shows up after 2 years and change that name,ke lenyatso"

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2. ACCOUNT RETIRED
"@MG  Cringe"

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3. Veronica Lubisi
"@MG  sure we know him as Tshepo,  Tshepo he's 😀, and he'll always be Tshepo to us"

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4. Chomie Ya jeso 🇿🇦
"@Veronica Lubisi  yes TSHEPO MAYNE....😊"

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5. Gertrude Sihlangu
"Love you Mansa Tshepo Sanele Mayne and brother Siyabonga,... I just can't get enough of your vlogs❤️🔥🔥🔥💯"

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6. thembi ndhlovu
"Bonele and sanele have the same meaning, just that Bonele is Xhosa and Sanele is Zulu"

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7. yamkela sanelisiwe Ngceke
"And Bonele is in third person while Sanele is Second person. Like They and  We."

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8. za
"Sanele also xhosa"

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9. Edmund Sishange
"Yes Sanele is both Xhosa and Zulu. Actually a Zulu equivalent of Bonele is Banele"

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10. yamkela sanelisiwe Ngceke
"@Edmund Sishange  we have Banele in Xhosa too translates as They are enough while Bonele translates as They are Content, they are happy with what they received, like my name Sanelisiwe."

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11. Edmund Sishange
"@yamkela sanelisiwe Ngceke  that's true I forgot that"

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12. Mosiuwa Clinton Mphore
"Mansa don't ditch the Tshepo name for Sanele....Sanele means Enough, that's the Name Normally given to Last Borns.....Tshepo suits you best 👌🏼"

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Correcting Misinformation That A Foreign African Tour Guide Gave To Mansa Mayne During His Tour Of Cape Town, South Africa

Mansa Mayne, Dec 21, 2021

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Cape Town is beautiful 🔥
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Statistics as of Dec. 21, 2021 at 5:50 PM EDT
total # of views  -28, 212
total # of likes -3.3K
total # of dislikes- This feature isn't working.

total # of comments - 1,584
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Mansa Mayne says in this video that this is his first day in Cape Town. He arrived in Cape Town, South Africa on Dec. 16, 2021 (as per two videos that he published). Based on his comment, it appears that this video was filmed on his first full day in Capetown (Dec. 17, 2021). However, it wasn't uploaded to YouTube until December 21, 2021.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents a compilation of selected comments from the discussion thread of this embedded YouTube vlog.

Most of these comments criticise and/or correct misinformation that a "foreign" (non-South African) tour guide gave to African American music reaction vlogger Mansa Mayne during his tour of Cape Town, South Africa (December 17, 2021).

Some of these comments and some independent comments also refer to Mansa Mayne's health. (He had indicated in one of his previous vlogs that was published on Dec. 16, 2021* that he hadn't been feeling well). 

The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, and educational purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Mansa Mayne and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click the "Mansa Mayne in South Africa" tag and other tags fthat are found below for other  pancocojams posts about these subjects.
*Here's the link to that vlog: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/12/discussion-thread-comments-about-covid.html "Comments About Covid-19 From YouTube Vlogs About African Americans Visiting South Africa (December 2021)".
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkGRBvpvZh0&ab_channel=MansaMayne
These comments are all from Dec. 21, 2021 and are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments first, except for replies. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. 

Pancocojams Editor's Note: I read all of the comments as of 2:30 PM and then added a few additional comments around 5:30 PM. I appreciate these comments since I'm not used to hearing that type of accented English and I could only understand a few words that the tour guide said. I think that this is probably the case with most of the people from the USA who have watched this video. I wonder whether Mansa Mayne understood much of what the tour guide said.

1. Vuyokazi Douse 
"Hi Mansa, I have been following your journey to and around South Africa 🇿🇦.  I am so happy that you came and are enjoying.

I am also happy that you decided to take a tour guide for Cape Town.  It is a very beautiful City. As for your tour guide...no comment.

South Africans love soccer, however the Cape Town stadium is not really used much for soccer only when there are big matches. In most cases the Athlone stadium 🏟  is used the most for soccer matches.  Cape Town stadium  is mostly used for rugby and will be the new home for the Western Provincer Rugby Team as the Newlands rugby stadium will be demolished.

There is more to Cape Town than what you have seen. Depending on your interest, after table mountain and Robbin  Island, you can do some township tours, winery tours, Bo-Kaap and district six.

I love you energy. Take care."
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2. Lukholo Gaji
"It feels like it's years seens you posted 😭😭"
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The last time Mansa Mayne posted a vlog before this one was on December 16, 2021. His custom was to publish at least one vlog a day of his experiences in South Africa.  
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3. Sazi Mbundu
"bro you had us worried. you disappeared for too long" 

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4. kid max 
"We'r have you been man is ben while..."
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5. Pwhere
"And stop disapearing please we need to make sure that you are still safe bro"
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6. Yvonne Memela
This tour guide needs a guide. She talking nonsense. She knows nothing about South Africa" 

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7. Violet Ralebipi
"Sorry the tour guide said black people moved to Cape Town like no black person was born there,What?"
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8. key270
Had to stop watching ... man I don't know where you got that tour guide."
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9. n o s t x l g i a
"Damn this comment section xenophobic asf .  I agree that she gave a lot of inaccurate information mara cmon guys"
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10. Nkopane
"Mansa isn't the first to be fed misinformation by a non-local tour guide, it seems to be a trend and that's why people are calling it out."
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11. Iam didi
"What? She saying soccer ain't big in SA, she ain't South African that's why she capping"
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"capping" = African American Vernacular English term meaning "lying"; "no cap"= "no lie"
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12. Que Young the demi God
"This not a racist comment but think a coloured tour guide has more knowledge of the city and woulda show all the place coz he or she grew up there" 
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13.Queen La Queefa
"1st of all its football, 2nd football is the most watched sport in SA. It's just that the players are so sh-t*. South Africa (you could say) are the best in the world for cricket and rugby (at times)"
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14. Zimkhitha Shinya
"That tour guide is definately not South African, she must have read a manual or something. She does not know the culture of Soth Africa and barely knows the history"
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15. Yandisa Ngundze
"This tour guide... Hayi khona." 
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Here's an English translation for "Hayi khona" from KodoZ Top:
"Afrikaans term or phrase: haaikona
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The word "aikona" or "haikona" means "no", "not at all" or even "by no means" "
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16. Marcus Viyane
"What the actual? Your tour guide is not South African and she is giving you all wrong information, negative vibes only. She said nothing that true. Townships in South Africa do not look like that: example Vosloorus, Spruiview, Daveyton: etc. There is a huge difference between Township and informal settlements. I’m soo stressed 😩 that you got the wrong person to show you around"
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17. sbongiseni cele
" "heyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy mansa  why take you so long to upload i was thought they kidnaped you come on man upload everyday, but hey thanks"
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18. Rob Lucci
"Great video Mansa but I got to say.....you got played big time by your tour guide"
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19. Andile Ntuli
"So glad to see you finally posted Mansa. Was starting to worry, thinking your flu got worse or something. Please link up with Julian Albino and Taylor Spencer while you're in Cape Town. They're amazing American YouTubers currently based there. Their channels are pretty dope too."
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20. tshidiso tc
"The lies about sport told by a foreigner.Xhosa Tribe has been in cape Town for years and she says only 20 Disgusting 🤮🤮🤮"
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21. DUDUDU GWALA
"People of capetown .....what's wrong with you ? Is it you or the Tourism sector ...like in every video? What wrong ......we don't see you in the Tourism sector. ...wrong information from a guide"
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22. Nkululeko
"Mansa your tour guide is clueless, she knows nothing about cape Town and South Africa at large. Get a South African to show you South Africa"

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23. living 🗣ubandantly
"Cape town  people ...what is this?😰

Tshepo forgive her for she knoweth not what she speaketh😉😂😂"
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"Tshepo" is the South African name that South African subscribers to Mansa Mayne's reaction music vlog gave him long before he visited South Africa. Mansa Mayne's "fans" are called "Maniacs".

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24. Best of tik tok
"I have been reading the comments ,and ppl are literally furious becoz this tour was led by foreigner ( Nigerian ,)

Come on guys , this is ridiculous"

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Thabiso Khumalo
"People would not be angry if she was telling the truth. She is literally lied about 95%. 🙄 and nobody said she's a Nigerian they just said she's a foreigner"

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26. South African Natural hair YouTuber
"How can I come to Nigeria and start telling your stories, south africa has complex history ....this is nonsense"
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Most of the comments about the tour guide identified her as Zimbabwean because of her accent. Others identified her as Congolese and only a few wrote that they believed that she is Nigerian.

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27. Christopher Jeftha
"Hey Mansa welcome to my birth place. First of all not very wise to choose a tour guide that knows nothing about South African or Capetonian culture. i understand maybe its the safest way to go but you have been following youngstacpt so you know he is legit. get to him to really understand Cape Town."

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28. Poetic Justice
"Why is this woman lying to Mansa like this????"

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29. P Nkopane
"Something tells me she’s not South African..."

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30. sesethu madikane
"Yhooo. Am so mad 😡"

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31. sesethu madikane
"@P Nkopane  she's not"

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32. Poetic Justice
"I don't think she's from SA at all, I respect the hustle but she's just straight up lying by saying black people aren't native to CPT 🤦‍♂️"

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33. sesethu madikane
"@Poetic Justice  Bra 😳Brenda Fassie, Ringo Madlingozi, Velaphi, Mbalula, Tony Yengeni etc ngabaphi???"

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34. P Nkopane
"@Poetic Justice  this is probably the third vlog I’ve watched of YouTubers touring Cape Town with a non local and always told false information. Go watch African Tigress video in Cape Town same thing and South Africans called it out."

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35. Ora Mahura
"I almost stopped watching. I'm just continuing to watch because of Mansa. This Lady is Not South African and she is Giving False information!

Yoh Cape Town natives, this is how you do us South Africans? How many tourists have been lied to?"

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36. Poetic Justice
"@sesethu madikane  He muna this woman don't know any of these legends especially Velaphi 😂"

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37. sesethu madikane
"@Poetic Justice  😂😂😂She killed me when she said my people never filled Cape Town Stadium.. When Chiefs and Pirates are in town its packed to capacity there."

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38. sesethu madikane
"@Poetic Justice  She even said soccer is not big there 😅😂damn"

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39. Poetic Justice
"@P Nkopane  This is not right man and these vlogs are exposing what's been going on there for years."

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40. Deborah Sethosa
"Can I jus say that Cape Town is dominated by coloured ppl then black ppl and then white come after...Cape Town is a very expensive city for an average black or coloured person and I get that it was made like that so that not so many of our ppl could b seen and are chuffed away like dirty laundry many NATIVE Capetonians which are predominantly coloured and black are congested in townships whilst other ppl are living it up in Cape Town I wish the tour guide could make more research there’s still so much pain we are going through as a result of Apartheid and things like this awakens that pain"

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41. Katlego Mahlase 
"I hope that there are CPT locals (preferably from the coloured community) who will volunteer to give Mansa an authentic, nuanced and informed account of the city/province because these non-national continental africans tend to present a narrative of the place to tourists informed by a white South African perspective which tends to be problematic."

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42. Shake soul
"Your tour guide taking a fat chance bro she's missed informed and what's worse she ain't south African......she sharing her own opinion.... this tour guide !😭 😡😡😡😡Lawd have mercy....I'm not Racist but I really feel a South African had....who the the fudge said only Indians love cricket 😭😂😂😂😂😂😂🤦"

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43. Xila - man
"Bro, 58 seconds into the video and I decided to jump into the comment section because I couldn't believe what I was hearing... The lies kept on coming too🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂🤦🏾‍♂🙄"

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44. Frederiek Phetla
"That tour guide is lying at lot. Soccer is REALLY big in South Africa. Mainly towards black people. Maybe Rugby is bigger than soccer to white South Africans. "

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45. Edward
"Bro nah nah!,  don't go around with some tourist showing you around cape Town, it's kind of dull my gee, just do it the same way you did it in Joburg, meet up with other youtubers and start going around with them. I also didn't like the stuff she said about black people, how dare she say that blacks are not originally from Capetown yet she wasn't born here in  SA?!"

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46. Lady N
"Poor thing, your still sound sick. Please see a Dr if you can"

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47. king julien is indian
"Lol that tour guide needs an education...she's actually very embarrassing.🤦🏾‍♀️ 😂"

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48. Kwanele Beyile
"Nah bra the tour guide is not telling the truth. First of all why did you not choose a South African tour guide???"

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49. Phindile Nkosi
"South Africans are fun and playful but when it comes to Information about our country we are very sensitive…… Good to hear from you Mensa ❤"

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50. Ruben De Jong
"You guys complain too much, in Joburg you were complaining why he was hanging with youtuber, he must do tourist things. Now he's doing tourist things, you don't like and want him to do youtuber things!? make up your mind SA!"

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51. king julien is indian
"@ZATourism PLEASE ENSURE THAT YOU REGULATE THE TOURISM INDUSTRY! THIS TOUR GUIDE IS UNACCEPTABLE!!!"

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52. Big L
"Mansa, the movie Blended was filmed in a place called Sun City, which is a holiday resort in the North West province... Nasty C filmed the music video for NDA in that road. He also filmed the video for Black and White and SMA that side of Cape town."

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53. Mpho Manetsi
"Wrong info about our sporting codes. Why does she categorise them according to races. Mixed race in Cape Town, what's that?"

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54. Nkosivumile Nkululeko
"She said the townships are not neat I was offended the way she said it mayn💔😭😭😂"

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55. AB and T
"How do I mute this Tour Guide? 😩😩😩🚫

 

Mansa, you sure you didn’t meet Omicron somewhere?

You might be stuck here with us forever. Just hearing that you are fluish. I hope you are okay"
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Disclaimer: All of the comments in this discussion thread -including the health related comments- are the opinions of those who wrote them. I'm certainly not in any position to know whether Mansa Mayne has or had a cold, or flu, or Covid-19. I hope he returns to full health if he is still ill.  

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56. Thando Ndawuni
"Ai the tour guide is not explaining the soccer part and the township part right. We llove soccer in cape Town, rugby is number 2 sport in SA,  soccer is number 1. Yes we won 2 rugby world cup, but Soccer is hugest bcoz majority of ppl in SA which is black+colored love soccer. Xhosa are quite good of rugby, bcoz most schools in Eastern cape are rugby schools. Joburg its true is big on soccer, but No1 sport in SA is soccer, then rugby, then cricket"

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57. Grouse Nkadimeng
"This tour guide - misrepresented our country to you Mansa. I really don't know where does she come from. She says cricket 🏏 is for Indians,  rugby 🏉  for whites and soccer for blacks  only. No ways, she was speaking from both sides of her mouth. She must stop being a tour guide here."

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58. William hlaeli
"She's not sauth African u can even hear her accent"

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59. Nicole S
"I cringed when I heard the tour guide mention mixed race and cricket is an "indian" sport lol... nooooooo 👎 ⛔

I am known as coloured not mixed race... uhmmm and sport in RSA is everyone's sport!"

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60. J Xx
"I knew the accent was off but the calling coloureds "mixed race" confirmed it fah me."

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61. unathi mnxakwe
"Not to be rude to the tour guide but damn she is talking nonsense everything she said is just rubish and not true or factual and it pissed me off!. Lady get your facts right please and second of all she is not even South African makes it even worse, if you are a foreigner in any country the least you can do is just basic research before blepping lies!.🤔😱🙆🙆🙆

 

I'm a very proud and patriotic South African 🇿🇦 so please next time do your research instead of spreading your limited and opinionated narrow view!.🙆🙆🙆"

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62. The Updates Room
"I love foreigners wholeheartedly infact I hate using the term foreigners when referring to my fellow African Brothers or sisters however I have to admit that the best person to be a tour guide should be someone who is a  native of that particular country cause wow what this lady is saying 😭😭😭she lacks knowledge about our country(South Africa) what she said is probably 80% incorrect and it breaks my heart that this is the information that most tourists will take back home. Haai I hate saying this but  let  South Africans be Tour guides in their own  country 💔"

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63. Blessing Joy
"I don't mind that she's a foreigner but she must atleast know what she is doing😏🙆"

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64. Kayvee
"The tour guide should've been Xhosa or Coloured🤦🏽‍♂️"

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65. Kayvee
"Even a white person wouldn't be a good idea because we know how detatched white people are in SA from the rest of the country and that's even more the case in Cape Town, most of them have never even  smelled a township. Only probably see them from a distance of their way to and from the airport."

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66. Thabiso Khumalo
"Exactly"

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67. Deidre George
"Soccer is huge in South Africa. Shes talking her own nonsense. Anyways Love for you Mansa. ❤"

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68. Lee Ji-An
"Mansa Mayne your tour guide is not from South Africa, she sounds Zimbabwean. She does not know anything about South Africa or our culture . The information she gave you about Cape Town is false, why do these tours hire people who aren't familiar with the people or the area, she took advantage because you're an American, I'm sure that's the nonsense she tells other tourists"

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69. Aphex 96
"Get tested bro, you sound sick. Hope you get better 🙏🏾"

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70. TumieBoy_RSA
"Get better soon bro🔥"

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71. Chocon
"Poor Mansa Mayne sick as hell with the Rona touring Cape Town.  Very unlikely he will be able to past the test to go back to the US anytime soon.   On top of that he is ketching hell from the South Africans for not using a SA tour guide.  He had many SAfricans showing  him Johannesburg that did not know anything about the city or the country, so he can not win.   The good thing is that they love him so much in SA that they are not going to run him out of town like they did with Wode Maya or the African Tigress.   I hope he recover from the corona soon."
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Wode Maya is a Ghanaian YouTube travel vlogger and African Tigress is a Kenyan YouTube travel vlogger. They both were roundly criticized by South Africans for their vlogs about that nation, including giving misinformation and using non-South African tour guides.

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72. Karl Mee
"I am not trying to bring any negativity but this is quiet troubling me,  tourist guide job is not for everyone,  you need depth knowledge and history of the area/place you will be doing your work, even an avarage South African is not cut to do that kind of job but yet time and time again when it comes to Cape Town we see videos of tourist guides and even Uber drivers of our brothers/sisters from other African nations saying inaccurate and misleading statements/information to tourists. Amongst other things she said "black people are not from Cape Town"🤔This has to be the dumbest statement anyone can say especially from an African person, at least I know the colonizers agenda when they say such things.  Cape Town has always had diverse ethnicities, coloured people have African (Bantu/Khoisan) and European ancestry and later South/East Asian."

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73. Siki Dlanga
"How did you end up with a non-South African tour guide? Foreigners are making money instead of SAns from our own country. How did you find this person?"

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74. andy siwe
"The misinformation about our sport and all is making this so cringe to watch omg , get a better tour guide if you haven't left yet. Get well soon mayne"

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75. Katie Manthe
"Please cancel this tour guide. I couldn’t even finish this video. She’s a pure insult to black South Africans. How dare she say black people are not from the cape?"

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76. Eris Musette
"Bro i was genuinely worried ngl...glad ur safe and enjoyed the tour."
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77. Kamva Copho
"😂😂 The Tour Guide said “Cape Town is not black peoples homeland” 🤦🏽‍♂️🤦🏽‍♂️. Every inch of Africa is our Homeland." 

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78. Yaasien Johnstone
"Ahoy Mansa, if you need someone to show you around Cape Town let me know."

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79. Josh Lindie
"Mansa I truly hope you read your vlog comments from your subscribers, that tour guide lady who's not even an authentic Capetonian, let alone a native South African, spoke a lot of misleading rubbish from beginning to end. Please get a proper South African, and a native Capetonian tour guide to show you around."

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80. Mika Mwambazi
"I'm from Zambia and even I know that black people (Khoisan and Xhosa) are indigenous to Capetown. @Mansa, How can your tour guide say that Whites and Mixed race are the original people there? And she's African spewing such propaganda. Let the people who are from there, showcase the history. Smh!"

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81. Vusumzi Mnqaba
"She absolutely knows nothing about cape town xeim.... “” cricket being an indian sport””” that blew my mind , am a Xhosa guy and my forefathers built Cape Town... why would she say we not from here though 😂😂😂"

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82. Palie M
"Lol @Mansa Mayne why didn't you use the real south africa for both jhb and cpt. You would have had an amazing experience and not had the flu probably lol

Stay indoors fully clothed for two days not doing anything and you'll get better,then meet up with Julian Albino and Taylor,both from America. Julian experienced SA(Johannesburg)and I honestly think he can give you a better Joburg experience that the one you had. I guess the key is keeping up with people who actually travel themselves. The first guys you were with in jhb unfortunately you could tell they don't really travel around SA and Joburg and to nice,viby places. And now you happened to get a tour guide who doesn't know much either. Seems like you're just not having the best luck finding the right people to make you not want to leave SA😅. Both Julian and Taylor have said they don't want to leave,have made the right friends who have shown them the right places etc..."
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"The real South Africa" is a YouTube vlog channel that is hosted by the Blantons, an African American couple who moved to Cape Town. The couple also has a travel agency. Julian Albino is an African American model who recently moved to Cape Town and has a YouTube vlog channel. Taylor Spencer also is an African American model who recently moved to Cape Town and also has a YouTube vlog channel.  

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83.  rorisang katane
"Credit to Mansa for visiting.

This lady needs to do more research.

That's what u get when you get a tour guide who is not a south african. Rugby is no longer a white sport...There is more rugby in free State. I love my rugby more than soccer. Our springbok captain is black and theres more black players. Now sports in South Africa has no colour.  Soccer is everywhere that is why we have stadiums in every province. Mixed race where? Its coloured people and not all of them. People from townships they do not rob people, there are criminals who does not necessarily from townships."

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84.  Zenn
"You guys are hypocrites why you hating on a fellow African? If you think you can do a better job then DO IT ! Also where was the same energy for the WHITE safari guy?"
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This comment refers to the White safari guide at the Johannesburg area Lion & Safari Park that  Mansa Mayne visited on his last day in that city. Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/12/african-american-youtube-vlogger-mansa_16.html "(African American YouTube Vlogger) Mansa Mayne Tours Lion & Safari Park In Johannesburg, South Africa (Dec. 16, 2021)" for a pancocojams post about that tour. 

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85. Thando Moshani
"What did he say that was misinformation?? You are completely missing the point."

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86. ntosh NXT
"We don't care what colour you are ,if you talk sh-t* we'll come for you!"
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87. Moses Matsepane
"That tour guide needs to get her facts right. I don't mind that she's a foreigner, South Africa is a diverse and everyone is welcome here, but the country's history and politics needs to be communicated with absolute care. Otherwise, the visuals are amazing, the tour guide is taking you to the right touristy spots, she knows places. I only have issues with the commentary... 😁😁"

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88. LUNA TV
"Stop using uber drivers as Tour Guides . This women sounds Zimbabwean and so confident in her lies. I'm from Cape Town hit me up."

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89. Vivian Naledi
"Another tick on that barket list 🗒️ love you Mansa keep the good work coming.. and please take care of yourself get well 💌🥰we miss you Man and your energy 💕stay blessed."

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90. KHANYISA FIKILE XAYIYA
"No history on...

District 6

Langa

Khayelitsha and how it came about

Mitchell's plain and the suffering people went through.

As a former assistant tour guide it saddens me that even tourist jobs have went to foreigners. This is not a tour I would've given a tourist on their first trip to Cape Town. Whether they are white or black. There's way more to cape town than the nice areas. This is a city full of history, full of pain. Foreigners have camps bays at home. This is not what they travel half of the world to see."

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91. Lynrick1
"Can a real south african with the knowledge, please give Mansa a proper tour."

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92.Solie Soso
"Brooo,, glad to see you back, man.

Please don't quiet so much like this again, without notice!"

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93. Khani Hlahla
"Since mansa left Johannesburg for Capetown, you'd swear he left south africa all together 🤣,worse he's no longer uploading more often"

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94. Le Se
"Whilst  we appreciate  this lady giving  Mansa a tour of CT, I must say I don't  appreciate  her misinforming  our visitors. I know we South Africans  have different  accents  from region to region, but she does not even sound like she South African.  It is disappointing  and disrespectful  that she did not  bother to fact check before sharing whatever  she thinks  she know about us. Sorry but🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀️🤷🏿‍♀"

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95. Mahlatse Masha
"“This one is even neat. This is how townships look in South Africa”😭💔 that time black people were oppressed during apartheid and forced to live in townships."

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96. khanyisile
"The history of this country is very important🥺, black people were in Cape town way before Europeans came. Black people are from Cape town. Soccer is the most popular sport in South Africa.❤🇿🇦"

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97. Thembelihle Khumalo
"Sorry @Mansa Mayne, but I could not finish watching this video mainly because of the tour guide. Her statements are more like opinions than facts, for a tour guide. South Africans certainly have no problem having a foreign but if she going be a tour guide in a foreign country she must do her homework  properly and tell you facts not opinions. Her lack of research and topics makes her look unprofessional, where did you get her?"

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98. Tembisa chronicles
"This tour guide be lying 😂😂😂 agg shame Mansa even sounds sick"

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99. Klaas De Mega
"The way African immigrants are confident about telling history of South Africa is so scary. Soccer is loved across the country. Rugby is bigger in Pretoria than in Cape Town. Rugby is also love across the country with lesser fanbase in Limpopo. Cricket is loved across the country. There are black people who call Cape Town home.

 

Seems like South African tourism prefers to hire African immigrants especially in Cape Town to tell the manipulated history. Now I wonder how many tourists have been told that lies"

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100. Mandlenkosi Ngcukayithobi

"I hope you enjoyed your site seeing Bro. I must note the inaccurate information this foreign lady was providing you

 1. Xhosa's are native to CPT because there was no difference between Xhosa, Khoi and San until whites and slaves arrived, plus these groups fought together to defend the Cape, even DNA proves it. In the Western Cape we have areas called Somerset and Platternburg bay those are areas Xhosa people were removed from and pushed up to the Eastern Cape. These same areas are names of Dutch Generals who fought Xhosa/khoi/San warriors like Chief Chungwa and king Ndlambe. The Xhosa kingdom was divided into two kingdoms under Ndlambe areas includes some parts of WC and Gcaleka which includes parts of EC. So it's an insult to say Natives are not natives in their land.

2. Coloured community is made out of mixed Asian, Angolan, Mozambican, Guinea slaves with Europeans, it is also made out of khoi, San and Xhosa woman who were taken as spoils of War by Europeans, natives and slave mixture. It's a complex layer that must be broken down for you to understand.  Coloureds love and  play soccer, rugby and cricket same as native black South Africans.

3.Cricket is not an Indian sport because it's enjoyed and played by all race groups in SA.

4. RUGBY is not a white sport because it's also enjoyed and played by everyone you can go to the townships or villages to will find people who play that sport so this woman is lying and misrepresenting the truth.

5. This myth that native black South Africans don't belong nor come from the Cape is a lie propelled by revisionist to enforce the empty land theory and white supremacy. Before the 1910 union of South Africa Western Cape, Eastern Cape and Northern Cape were one country under the British colony and Western Cape was the administrative area of the British Cape of Good hope colony. The British Colony used to impose taxes for all these areas were people were forced to pay tax to the colony in pounds. Types of taxes: cattle tax, hut tax,crop tax, and land tax for those who survived the Glen Grey Act were land owners were reduced to owning 15 hectares of land and were not allowed own more than 15 cattle, the remaining land was taken by the "government". The same labour that was used to build Cape town is the same labour that is being told today that it does not belong there. Imagine.

6. African foreigners are a useful tool by White supremists to push this false narrative and they are willingly complying. Supremist are also sideling locals in their favor hence you will hear narratives that South Africans are " lazy".

7. We must remember during the colonial Era a huge number of Khoi, San and Xhosa were killed and the was a time when the colonial government even issued permits for white soldiers to hunt and kill Khoi and San groups mainly because they were not as organized as Xhosa's. They even used some slaves whom today drive the same narrative while claiming African ancestry.

 

It is wise to get information from the source instead of the enemy and its allies."

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