Marvel Entertainment, July 23, 2022 -snip- total # of views as of July 28, 2022 at 5:54 PM ET= 29,195,872
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of the official teaser for the American movie Black Panther- Wakanda Forever that includes a mashup* of Nigerian Afrobeats singer Tems singing Bob Marley's now iconic 1974 Reggae song "No Woman No Cry" and a clip of African American Hip Hop artist Kendrick Lamar's 2015 song "Alright".
This pancocojams post also showcases a YouTube sound file of Tems' cover of "No Woman No Cry" .
In addition, some complimentary comments and some critical YouTube discussion thread comments about that sound file and that official Black Panther- Wakanda Forever teaser's mashup of "No Woman No Cry" are also included in this pancocojams post.
Brief biographical information about Bob Marley, Tems, and Kendrick Lamar are included in this post. Links to a YouTube video of Bob Marley singing "No Woman No Cry" and a YouTube video of Kendrick Lamar's "Alright" are also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Bob Marley, Kendrick Lamar, Tems, and all those who are associated with these songs and the Black Panther- Wakanda Forever movie. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Rest in power Bob Marley and Chadwick Boseman.
-snip-
: something created by combining elements from two or more
sources: such as
a: a piece of music created by digitally overlaying an
instrumental track with a vocal track from a different recording"...
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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2: Tems - No Woman No Cry (From "Black Panther: Wakanda
Forever Prologue")
MarvelMusicVEVO, Jul 25, 2022 Wakanda Forever Prologue -snip- total # of views as of July 28, 2022 at 5:56 PM ET= 1,008,925
**** INFORMATION ABOUT BOB MARLEY & LINK TO A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF BOB MARLEY PEFORMING "NO WOMAN NO CRY" From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bob_Marley "Robert Nesta Marley OM (6 February 1945 – 11 May 1981) was a
Jamaican singer, musician, and songwriter. Considered one of the pioneers of
reggae, his musical career was marked by fusing elements of reggae, ska, and
rocksteady, as well as his distinctive vocal and songwriting style."... -snip- Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZ6VezKMoRY for the YouTube video entitled Bob Marley & The Wailers - No Woman, No Cry (Live At The
Rainbow 4th June 1977)
**** INFORMATION ABOUT TEMS From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tems_(singer) "Temilade Openiyi (born 11 June 1995), known professionally as Tems, is a Nigerian singer, songwriter, and record producer.[1][2] She rose to prominence after she was featured on Wizkid's 2020 single, "Essence", which reached the top ten of the Billboard Hot 100 after the release of a remixed version with an additional feature from Justin Bieber, and earned her a Grammy Award nomination.[3]
[…]
Tems covered Bob Marley's "No Woman, No Cry" for the Marvel movie Black Panther: Wakanda Forever soundtrack, released in July 2022[5] …
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INFORMATION ABOUT KENDRICK LAMAR AND LINK TO A YOUTUBE VIDEO OF "ALRIGHT"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kendrick_Lamar "Kendrick Lamar Duckworth (born June 17, 1987) is an American rapper, songwriter, and record producer. He is often cited as one of the most influential rappers of his generation. Aside from his solo career, he is also a member of the hip hop supergroup Black Hippy alongside his former Top Dawg Entertainment (TDE) labelmates Ab-Soul, Jay Rock, and Schoolboy Q.
[…]
His third album To Pimp a Butterfly (2015), which incorporated elements of funk, soul, jazz, and spoken word, predominantly centred around the Black-American experience.[3] It became his first number-one album on the US Billboard 200 and was an enormous critical success
-snip-
Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z-48u_uWMHYfor Kendrick Lamar - Alright (Official Music Video) -snip- WARNING- That video includes profanity and what is commonly known as "the n word".
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT TEMS'S COVRE OF "NO WOMAN NO CRY" MASHUP/SONG IN BLACK PANTHER- WAKANDA FOREVER
All of these comments are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
Excerpt #1
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4E2RNfQQImY
This is the YouTube video that is given as Showcase video #1 in this post.
All of these comments are from July 23, 2022 to July 28, 2022.
1. TherealActivist TaskMiNahFiPractice
"As a Jamaican, I love the song choice... especially therendition of Bob Marley's No Woman No Cry.."
**
2. Tadhg Holmes
"Excellent song choice! A reminder of how life goes on despite a sorrowful loss. RIP Chadwick Boseman.
**
3. Joseph Springfield
"They picked the two best songs to describe the feels of what is going on. Having them merge together makes this one of the best trailers I’ve ever seen.
**
4. Andrea Amorosi
"Is that TEMS singing first? Transitioning into Kendrick?"
**
Reply
5. Andrea Amorosi
"It is. Just checked twitter"
**
Reply
6. Kachisicho Gbanite
"Tems voice is amazing"
**
Reply
7. D. Mitchell
"Facts 🔥🔥 the song
selection alone is enough to make this trailer truly stand out"
**
8. Redd X
"I love that when Kendrick said ,,and when i wake up” and we see at first moment new Panther when actually in first movie to become Black Panther someone has to wake up. That trailer is so f—kin* good"
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
**
9. Moose "That transition to Alright is ridiculous. That first time
Kendrick popped up in the music I was like 'surely not,' then rewinded and
heard it again, straight goosebumps."
** 10. Martin365
"1:50-1:54 “do you hear me do you feel me” every second another beautiful sister. I like how they did that
made me tear up!"
**
11. TXKII
"I must have this version of no woman no cry 😭"
**
12. BlurayUK
"NO WOMAN NO CRY WAKANDA 4EVA....LIT 💯🔥🔥🔥"
**
13. Derrick Daniel
"Very emotional😭. Wakanda forever🙅♂.
Lovely soundtrack from Tems (Nigeria to the world) and Kendrick Lamar."
**
13. V27
"Thank Bob Marley for this timeless powerful song suited for this emotional Trailer..
RIP MA BROTHER CHADWICK
WAKANDA FORVER 🙅🏿♂️"
**
14. M. Worthy
"I'd always hoped that Danai Gurira ("Okoye")
would have whispered into the ears of Ludwig Göransson and Ryan Coogler to get
them to slip several iconic Thomas Mapfumo , Chimurenga, Shona/mbira
type sounds into these MCU/Black Panther movie soundscapes 🎶.Africa is a enormous continent, but what a
surprise it would be to hear traditional mbira/Thomas Mapfumo/Chimurenga
classic sounds in these movies.
APRIL, 1980 trivia:
"...After Bob Marley’s performance that
night, when he shed tears watching the Rhodesian flag come down and Zimbabwe’s
go up, the local musician Thomas Mapfumo took the stage. Mapfumo was a leading
singer of chimurenga music, the music of struggle." " -snip-
This is the way this comment was written in that discussion thread.
**
15. Tom Butterworth
"That mashing up of No Woman No Cry with Kendrick Lamarr is quite, quite brilliant."
**
16. Jamie L
"The music started and I teared up. At the same time though I am so happy to see all those black people in one film! LOL And it's not some made for tv movie. When I was growing up as a GenXer I would have killed to see this representation. We would only get our top black films on VH1 or BET when it was relevant, that is all we had. So this right is her is effing MAGNIFICENT! I can't wait to see it."
**
17. Irvin P
"Not going to lie,was expecting a sorry trailer but with the music they chose and how everything is laid out as a preview this is something I’m definitely going to have to check out in theaters. Can’t wait!"
**
18. Kat G
"Whoever did the sound mix for the trailer deserves a raise lol. Amazing trailer can’t wait to see it!"
**
19. Zlatan Sanchez
"As soon as I heard "we gon be alright" I got so hyped"
**
20. Pedro Norman
"I'm sorry but I fail to understand what a Jamaican Reggae song has to do with a ficticious African nation - I mean, besides playing on silly African American tropes - Bob Marley was a beloved black man and therefore his music is a reflection of "American blackness"???.
This movie is probably gonna suck."
**
21. Mr. BRYANT
"The music sucks.
I wonder why there is NEVER AFRICAN MUSIC in films about AFRICAN CULTURE"
**
22. KidFlash
" felt Angela Bassett’s dialogue…in my heart. I spent the first 20 yrs of life, on the move…from place to place. Brother Marley’s words hit home in my Soul.
“ …..good friends we had, good friends we lost….along the
way…
Yes, we did. Yes, I have.
My 🙏 go to CHADWICK BOSEMAN, the man and myth…that could and did, unify the world — for a moment in time."
The Black Panther is dead…LONG LIVE!
THE BLACK PANTHER..!!
!!! WAKANDA FOREVER !!!!”
**
23. TJ Blaidd
"They need to quit making less beautiful remixes of original songs. That would have his SO MUCH HARDER with Marley's voice! Just pay his family and use the real song instead of a breath heavy remix like every other bad movie.
RIP Chadwick. Let's hope they honor his memory."
**
24. Keshawn Whyte
"Tems really put her soul into those words, no disrespect to the late Robert nesta Marley."
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Excerpt #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H4nU6i7IZM
This is the YouTube sound file given as Showcase Video #2 in this post.
All of these comments are from July 25, 2022 to July 28, 2022
1.Tali Simila "The Bob Marley’s original version is one of my favorite
songs. Tem does absolute justice and a beautiful job on this timeless song."
** Reply 2. Nicholas Harrison "I agree apart from the original this is the best cover I've heard."
** Reply 3. sipple block STD "As a Jamaican I stamp this 💯🇯🇲"
** 4. kimball39 "Oh my! The emotion of this song! I agree
with those that have stated this will be the most emotional Marvel Movie to
date! What a great Actor, and a great human being! Thank you Chadwick Boseman!
This Movie will have all the feels!"
** 5. Justin Time "You can feel the ancestors in her voice"
** Reply 6. Natasha Clark "Best comment!!"
** 7. NDR 7652 "With this song I'm one who considers it
sacrosanct that NO ONE should even
attempt a remake . That said this version is fantastic" -snip- This comment was written in bold font in this discussion thread.
** 8. Mercuzio1988 "Not the same we hear in the trailer.
Will you release THAT version?"
** 9. Fábio Nunes "Guys anyone has the epic version we ear
in the trailer? This one is nice but I really loved the drums from the trailer
one... kind of an epic version..."
** Reply 10. DeismAccountant "I agree. So why can’t we find that version here?"
** Reply 11. ivstova47 " @DeismAccountant Yesssss...i m searching the whole internet and i can't find it..... I'll keep looking"
** Reply 12. Mindspectrum "@DeismAccountant I think the mash up is just made for the trailer. It will not be published in this form. But let's hope anyway!"
** 13. Cameryn "Sighh the amount of people that don't
know this is a cover of a Bob Marley song. Don't get me wrong, this cover is
INCREDIBLE, but the original is also amazing!"
** 14. Ngige Martin "One song representing two kings👑....
RIP to bob Marley and Chadwick boseman♥"
** 15. Hextraordinary13 "No Woman No cry has me BAWLING.
So much for the title. This is
breathtaking, heartbreaking, & beautiful."
** 16. Klamy Dia "Tems has been on an ascend since
Wizkid's essence and I'm so happy that she's not stopping.
Didn't recognize her voice in the
trailer but can get her tone here.
Of course, the legacy both Bob Marley
and Chadwick leave behind is legion.
Thank you Marvel 😭😭😭😭😭"
** 17. AzureSteel "Will there be a "theatrical"
version of this song like the one we heard in the trailer? I prefer the
instrumentation in that one because the percussions in that version makes the
song more tribal, more grand and overall more suited to being a tribute for T'Challa."
** 18. Equinox "Hope the Trailer Version also gets released. The one with
the ambiental, violin strings, percussion and Kendrick Lamar's Vocals."
** Reply 19. Bonzo "That version always gives me goosebumps"
** Reply 20. Th Zene "Agreed but keep in mind the trailer mixed this with
Kendrick's actual song "Alright". So there may not be a
"full" version of the trailer with that as it's a whole song on its
own."
** Reply 21. Yggdrasil "There are gonna be some legal issues with that"
** Reply 22. Equinox "@Yggdrasil There just needs to be a settlement between
the Music Record Labels & The Artists. Given how they already have
permission to use in the trailers I don't think it would be much of an issue."
** 23. LionessOrder "Love tems. But they could've gotten a
Jamaican singer to do it. Lila Iké, sevana, noami cowan...tons of talent. Good
for tems tho
** Reply 24. 7th Orisha "Several Jamaicans have done their own
versions over the years. Marley's wanted a different and African version and
Tems so happened to be a biggest female artist
in Africa at the moment. So, it's just right to do it that way. The
Album itself was a tribute by Bob Marley to Africa."
** Reply 25. JON QUEEN INFO "Why does is f—ken* matter who cares so
far as the person is of afro descent dont think there is a problem and u do
know this is a movie showcasing sub saharan African culture so it makes sense
that the album should have an african artiste" -snip- *This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
** 26. ReEvølutiøn Games "So use Bob Marley's song covered, and
instead of just asking to use the actual song, and the fact that I don't know,
uh, hmm, you're profiting and killing off a character that just got thrown into
the MCU."
** 27. Krysii Rowe "Is Bob Marley credited for this song?
Also it’s “No Woman, no cry”. As in “No woman,don’t cry “. As a Jamaican
without the comma it changes the whole sentence lol. Now to me it’s sounds like
“women don’t cry” or “no women cried” = In patois “no woman neva cry( no woman
cried) or “woman nuh fi cry(women don’t cry )”.
It’s suppose to be conciliatory.
But that’s just me thinking into it.
It’s still similar."
** Reply 28. JON QUEEN INFO "Does it really matter tho most people
who have heard this song a thousand times and listened to the lyrics well
enough gets the message , and obviously bob was credited"
** Reply 29. Krysii Rowe "@JON QUEEN INFO seeing as it’s a Jamaican song and I’m a
Jamaican who was raised on said song I would say it matters to me. If it does
not to you that’s fine. But I’m giving my opinion on MY culture. So it matters
to me.
Glad to know Bob Marley was credited
because I haven’t seen anything crediting him in the film or in the video of
tems singing. The title didn’t say anything about a cover. And some people on
TikTok seem to think it’s an original song. If you look in the description of
this video you’ll see that the only artist mentioned is Tems as well as Marvel.
There is no mention of Bob Marley"
** Reply 30. Krysii Rowe "@JON QUEEN INFO I’m sure if it was another native language
and the native of that country commented on the grammar used you wouldn’t ask
if it matters. It’s common sense. And if you payed attention you’d see I’m not
bashing the producers nor the artist. What I’m doing is speaking more about my
native tongue and giving a bit of insight to non-Caribbean’s. I don’t see
what’s wrong with that."
** 31. no shirt official "It would be better if bob marley
original song was used"
** 32. M. Dillinger "Love this cover. They need to make a
video of this as well. So powerful."
** 33. Keziah Ridgeway "Love this buttttttttt……can we get the
mash up with “We Gon Be Alright” please???"
** 34. Melody Tracy "Hearing this at the start of the trailer and as
it continues on just brought me to tears. Thank you, Tems, for creating such an
amazing, heartfelt cover"
** 35. Coach Ryan "The way she sings it! Lord Have Mercy...... you feel the
emotions, pain, strength and power"
** 36. Paschal Madubata "Tems "No Woman, No Cry" cover for BLACK PANTHER
soundtrack. I love her cover. Sounds like sadness & healing at the same
time. What a spiritual dirge her voice turned it to 😭..
This is a Hymn"
** 37. Elizabeth Anne "The transition between Marley’s lyrics “everything is gonna
be alright” to Kendrick Lamar’s “Alright” = flawless. Kudos to the sound mixing
team!"
** 38. Rodrigo Lourenco Miranda "what a beautiful song, it skips the
heart and goes straight to the soul"
** 39. Eye2much E "#tems to the world. Nigeria on the map 🇳🇬😘🙌🏿
This song is winning an Oscar for best soundtrack, Grammy, and BET"
** 40. Ethereal "Reading through the comments here and I'm in awe the amount of praise Tems is
getting is blowing me away her talent is being recognized international
worldwide and im beyond happy for her"
** 41. Naamy19X9 "I hope they will later upload the Bob
Marley’s "no woman no cry" and
Kendrick Lamar’s “Alright” remix. Its pure fire. Makes me excited for
the overall soundtrack of the movie!"
All of these comments are from July 24, 2022 -July 28, 2022.
1. OhMyPulse "Black Panther bringing this classic back"
** Gabriel Yulaw "Black Panther Wakanda forever transition this song from Bob
Marley's "No Woman, No Cry". Breathtaking combination!"
** Leonardo Talavera "I didn't realize this song was playing during the Black
Panther II trailer until it cut to Kendrick's voice and then I damn near
started sobbing."
** Reply Oraki "😢"
** [redacted] published on July 24, 2022 "This song had 150 million views before the trailer even
dropped." -snip- The total # of views as of July 28, 2022 at 5:58 PM ET= 156,892,478.
** Reply GoofyRj "💪🏾WORDD" -snip- "Word" is a 1980s African American Vernacular English expressions which means "That's right"/ "I agree with what you just said." "Word" was originally given as "Word to the mother" and/or "Word Up". All of these expressions are seldom used since sometimes around the late 1990s.
** DFGVerdell "We all here after the black panther trailer but I been on this masterpiece every since it dropped I’m so ready for the movie I’m getting goosebumps thinking about it💙 #RIPCHADWICK Wakanda Forever🖤"
Films That Rock, Jul 24, 2022 "Black Panda [sic]: Wakanda Forever" Panel from San Diego Comic Con 2022.
**** Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube reaction vlog of a panel discussion and trailer for the November 2022 movie Black Panther- Wakanda Forever. This post also showcases the first official teaser for that movie.
In addition, this pancocojams post presents a buzzfeed.com article excerpt and comments from a YouTube reaction vlog about Mexican actor Tenoch Herta portraying the role of Namor in Black Panther- Wakanda Forever.
This article excerpt and all of these comments were written in July 2022 before the Black Panther- Wakanda Forever movie was released.
The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are associated with the Black Panther movies, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube. RIP Chadwick Boseman.
**** SHOWCASE VIDEO: Marvel Studios’ Black Panther: Wakanda Forever | Official
Teaser
Marvel Entertainment, July 23, 2022 -snip- total # of views as of July 26, 2022 at 2:27 PM ET= 23,147,783
by Pablo Valdiva, July 25, 2022 "Tenoch Huerta being cast as Namor is big for all brown
and Indigenous Mexicans."
"As you know, the world FINALLY got its first look at the
highly anticipated Marvel sequel Black Panther: Wakanda Forever. To say it's a
masterpiece is an understatement, and that's just based on one teaser alone.
And while the trailer introduced us to a few new characters,
Namor and Namora are continuing to make waves online...literally and
figuratively. The two are played by Mexican actors Tenoch Huerta and Mabel
Cadena, and seeing them in the mix of an already incredible cast has been a joy
to watch.
They — along with the rest of the cast — appeared at San
Diego Comic-Con over the weekend, and both shared their gratitude for being in
the film as well as their love for their Latino fans.
BuzzFeed was in Hall H during the Marvel Studios panel in
which Tenoch said, "I'm excited and I'm so happy to be here, it's an
honor. And I want to say something really fast about inclusion. I come from the
hood, seriously. And thanks to inclusion, I'm here. I wouldn't be here without
inclusion. A lot of kids out there in their hoods are looking at us, dreaming
to be here, and they're gonna make it! They're gonna make it."
He then addressed his Latino fans in Spanish, "And the
second thing. Sorry, I need to switch to Spanish. Thank you to everybody, all
my country folk, all the Latin Americans. You crossed the river and you left
everything you loved behind. Thanks to that, I am here. Thank you. By the way,
Namor is amazing."
[…]
Latino fans, especially Indigenous Latinos, are expressing
nothing but joy over seeing Tenoch be a complete badass in the film.
Alejandro Ruiz
@AlejandroRuizVO
As a Mexican-American actor with darker skin and a child of
indigenous parents, I’ve felt firsthand the colorism inflicted on
Latin-Americans in entertainment. As such, I can’t describe the joy of
recognizing the gorgeous, talented
@TenochHuerta
in the
#WakandaForever trailer. 👑
12:32 AM · Jul 24, 2022·Twitter for
iPhone
⤷ his (✿◠‿◠)
@redirewolf
tenoch huerta being cast as namor is big
for all brown and indigenous mexicans. an actor who barely got any roles in his
home country for those two reasons finally has this huge opportunity in one of
the largest media franchises in the world. this opens the door
12:42 AM · Jul 24, 2022·Twitter for
Android
[…]
Armani
@historyoarmani2
Atlantis being inspired by Aztec culture
and Namor being played by Mexican actor Tenoch Huerta in Black Panther Wakanda
Forever is about to be the hardest sh-t* the marvel has ever done
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out in this tweet."...
**** SELECTED COMMENTS All of these comments were published July 24, 2022 - July 26, 2022 at 11:30 AM ET.
These are only a portion of the comments about this subject in that YouTube discussion thread as of July 26, 2022 at 11:24 AM.
Films That Rock, Jul 24,
2022 "Black Panda [sic]: Wakanda
Forever" Panel from San Diego Comic Con 2022.
1. U__V_RAYS_ _____ 963 "This movie looks incredible🔥🔥🔥 I
just know it will be amazing and so meaningful. We will always love and
remember Chadwick Boseman❤️❤️❤️ The Black Panther lives on
forever in our hearts❤️ May he Rest In Peace🙏"
** 2. Jenny Akhara "I was in tears from Ryan mentioned Chadwick but when Danai
mentioned about the merging of our cultures and we as people celebrating each
other, it broke me even more. I am Cuban, Jamaican and a proud product of black
and white and I am moved and inspired by the evolution on my cultures. I am
proud to be present in this era where we embrace each other, as people, as
humans, as mankind and not by the colour of our skin or difference in our
cultures. United we stand, divided we fall. We still have a far way to go and I
look forward to us continuing to evolve as people and I pray for the day that
we are free from all sorts of racism and prejudice and fully ACCEPT each other
Bob Marley "Out of many one people"
** 3. G E R A R "As a latina i would’ve never thought i see people that look
like me in a Marvel movie.This is truly special!"
** Reply 5. G E R A R "@GgAboveAverageGamer im including her too btw 😂"
** Reply 6. ChemyNoSurfea "@GgAboveAverageGamer to be fair Xochitl (America Chavez) is born
and raised in the USA. Tenoch is full on Mexican, that's what he means by
"the hood" (weird way of putting it lmao). I'm so happy seeing him there!"
** Reply 7. Cristina Rodríguez "@ChemyNoSurfea He wasn’t referring to Mexico as “the hood”.
He was talking about Ecatepec (the literal place he grew up in). Ecatepec is
one of the most dangerous delegations in Mexico"
** Reply 8. ChemyNoSurfea "@Cristina
Rodríguez yeah I just wasn't specific
enough, but that's kinda what I meant. He knows the Mexican struggle"
** 9. Sam West "I’m already a fan Tenoch! Go’head and represent
for the Latin community. Black & Brown unite"
** Malibu’s Most Wanted 10. "Love this Black and
Brown Unity ❤️"
** 12. P. WILD TV "Even in the movies they want blacks vs Mexicans. We need
unity lol. I’m joking y’all"
** 13. David-Arthur Muland "Dude it’s a celebration of africa and it’s culture and dude
came and made it about Spanish ahah"
** Reply 14. Mystic Flame "Not Spainish, Mexican"
** 15. Luis A. Gonzalez "Including the LATINO community. This feels good. 🔥"
** M C 16. "Black people are very welcoming of other cultures but not
vice versa. They should kept it all black"
** 17. Jose Fonseca "Now if we can get the Latino equivalent to wakanda not to be
blue that would’ve been a bigger deal"
** 18. Juan Duran "African and Mesoamerican
representation!!! Love to see it baby!!! 🖤🤎"
** 19. ElBigShegun "Man the way Tenoch talked in Spanish for
his people to understand is sick! He better be in secret wars"
** Reply 20. Vincent Alvarado "I'm guessing he will
be one of the most important characters going forward considering his status
generally in the comics."
** Reply 21. 1904 daygobaby "@Vincent
Alvarado for non comic book readers can
you elaborate further ?"
** Reply 22. Marcel B "@1904 daygobaby he's played huge parts in diff popular comic
book arcs, he was actually apart of the original illuminati unlike the one from
multiverse of madness, and whenever he isn't acting like a dick, he joined the
avengers, xmen, and fantastic 4 fighting so pretty strong villains like thanos
and his army, hulk and red hulk, etc"
** Reply 23. Lainie Medina "I love that Black Panther is gonna have a go a representing
not one but two very ancestral cultures at the same time! Love love it! As an
afrolatina this hits right on my best parts!"
** Reply 24. Hey "@Lainie
Medina two culture that shared a lot in
common both in the past as the present"
** Reply 25. Noel Srx "Dude he's playing NAMOR. he will obviously be in secret
wars."
** Reply 26. Chrisencius MSF "He better be in everything! I'm Southeast Asian brown &
for some reason i feel represented."
** 27. barbara&_ "18:28
"Thank you all...all the "paisanos", all the
latin americans. You crossed the river and left behind everything you loved,
thanks to that... I'm here" " -snip- The slang word "paisanos" came from the Italian word for "peasants." Its contemporary Italian and Spanish meaning is "countrymen" and its slang meaning is the same as the African American vernacular English word "homies."
** 28. SonNitsuga TheSavage "Bro. Tenoch made me tear up. As a Mexican making it in
America; I am proud.
** Reply 29. Frado’s channel "I did too man. It got me"
** Reply 30. azuredivina "viva la raza!!"
** Reply 31. Russell Turcotte "Wanted Namor to be Native American but it’s cool guess we
got Echo 😕"
** Reply 32. Jah Ali "@Russell
Turcotte he is Native American"
** Reply 33. Frado’s channel "@Russell
Turcotte I’m sorry that he’s not from a
group that originated specifically in the US but he is indigenous since the
Mayan and Aztecs are indigenous but from Mexico. But Mexico is part of North
America (not Central America) so it’s still technically a North American
indigenous group"
** Reply 34. Frado’s channel "@Russell
Turcotte I am very proud that he’s
Mexican. It made me cry to hear him say those words in Spanish and I know it
will make me cry to see him in the movie knowing that he’s Mexican in a lead
role in a marvel movie and I can’t stop thinking of how amazing it will be for
people to learn a little more about Mexican indigenous groups. Estoy muy
orgulloso de verlo a él ahí. Soy mestizo y Oaxaqueño y mis padres me trajeron
aquí cuando tenía dos anós para darme la mejor oportunidad que podría tener en
mi futuro. Espero que todos amén nuestra hermosa cultura" -snip- Google translate from Spanish to English: "I am very proud to see him there. I am mestizo and Oaxacan and my parents brought me here when I was two years old to give me the best opportunity I could have in my future. I hope you all love our beautiful culture."
** Reply 35. Russell Turcotte "@Frado’s channel why do you think I wanted him Native
American? The same reason Namor is a huge character and he’d be big for Native
American culture it would be like black panther the affect it had on the world.
There’s tons of other Mexican characters they could also make a character like
doctor doom or ghost rider Mexican to make up for Namor being Native American.
Marvel has 2 Native American characters Echo which the show is gonna flop just
because she’s a female and has no real big ties to anything besides kingpin and
daredevil who we’ve already seen. And the other character is wolverines gf who
doesn’t have a big role in the comics"
** Reply 36. Russell Turcotte "@Cizzurp 215 indigenous and Native American are 2
different things Mexicans and Native Americans are not the same and marvel has
tons of Mexican characters it just would’ve been cool to see a Native American
character as big as Namor in the MCU it would have a black panther cultural
affect."
** Reply 37. Cindy Ramirez "@Russell
Turcotte wtf. You’re erasing hundreds of
Pueblos Indígenas that STILL EXIST TODAY in so called “Mexico” and other “Latin
American” countries. It’s true that many Mexicans are whyte European
descendants and others are “Mestizos” who are severely disconnected from their
indigenous ancestry and culture…. BUT still, there ARE literally thousands of
Indigenous Peoples in “Mexico” today.
Especially in regions like Oaxaca and Yucatán, Indigenous
communities have been able to resist colonization. They’ve been able to
continue practicing their indigenous cultures— whether it be Mixtec, Zapotec,
Maya, etc.
So how are natives/indigenous peoples from “Mexico” not
“real natives”?
Our ancestral lands (‘Mexico’) is home to about 68
indigenous languages! Nawatl (or Nahuatl) is the most widely spoken indigenous
language in ‘North America’. In fact, the number of Nawatl speakers is a lot
greater than that of Navajo, spoken by Diné people in the so called “USA”.
Next time, instead of deliberately erasing Pueblos Indígenas
south of the “U.S.” border, reconsider how harmful your thinking is.
(By the way, many of the people migrating to the “U.S.” are
indigenous peoples from “Central America” who only speak an indigenous
language. They struggle to communicate with officials, attorneys, volunteers
that only speak Spanish. Ideas like yours harm these migrants. It exacerbates
the idea that these migrants only need resources in Spanish—which in many
cases, can be detrimental to their asylum claims and to their
safety/well-being.)"...
** Reply 38. Wil Rodriguez "I want to thank Ryan Coogler for giving Latinos a in to the
MCU. He made Atlantis a meso American
myth. And WE know what colonizers will do to an indigenous culture."
** Reply 39. Jay 88 "Its not a Mexican movie, its a BLACK MOVIE you and your
people are welcome though" -snip- The bold font is the way those two words were written in that comment.
** Reply 40. Cizzurp 215 "@Russell
Turcotte Native American is an outdated
term for what we used to call Indian. The correct term for them is Indigenous
no matter what tribe or from where in the Americas but okay 😂.
Seminole, Lenape, Kiowa, Inca, Aztec, etc all Indigenous people. If you wanted
a group specific to the US and the history of the trial of tears and such like
Reservoir Dogs, just say that."
** 41. byronicman "Mohawk Indian and 40 plus year Marvel true believer here..
and when I learned that Namor was to be an indigenous American I was blown away
and a little emotional. Such an awesome idea.. I'm super excited to see Namor
on the big screen finally. And Chadwick,
we miss you terribly. Thank you for
bringing to life one of my childhood heroes so beautifully. We were the same age and you're gone wayyy
too soon. WAKANDA FOREVER!!!!!!!"
** 42. Nancy rose "I am so stoked for this cast!
And being Mexicana it brings me such pride to see Tenoch up
there!!
He openly speaks about the colorism and the systemic racism
in Mexican media and lack of opportunity for non-fair Mexicans to play roles
out of stereotypical roles. So this role in the MCU is breaking glass ceilings
and he deserves this and more. He is such talent!!!!! Felicidades ❤❤❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉"
** Reply 43. Imperious Rex "I know they should just create original Mexican characters
or used the ones that they have. Also, I don't mind them using the actor but
they could have used makeup and CGI to make him look like Namor. If they can
make Mr spock they can make Namor. Also he does not have enough muscle
definition. Namor is ripped. This is a huge mistake. But look whose directing
the movie. A kid who probably never read a comic until he had to read Black
Panther."
** Reply 44. Ricardo Rojas Toledo "@Imperious Rex and what does it matter?"
** Reply 45. Imperious Rex "@Ricardo Rojas
Toledo umm, I just told you in my
previous post. This is a lazy attempt to recreate The first Marvel character."
** Reply 46. Chris Connors "@Imperious Rex
Well when you find a white skinned Atlantean that is a good
muscular actor with pointy ears & winged feet let Marvel know."
** Reply 47. Imperious Rex "@Chris Connors I don't need to find anything. People are proud about representation of a character that was never Mexican. I'm all for diversity but make an original diverse character. You could just make an original mexican character for the movie then introduce them to the comic. Harley Quinn was done this way. Not hard. But making an original character a person of color with false influences to create diversity is just fake pandering. The man can play Namor but just make him Namor. I didn't have a problem with the Himdall race swap. The reason, no virtue signaling done. Let me mention that I'm black because your perception is that only white people have a problem with this. That in itself is a crime."
** Reply 48. JAK Of all and that is all "@Imperious Rex You’ve been brainwash, to feel that way. I
think it’s cool they made the Atlanteans brown skin.
These comic book stories are fictional characters can change
at any time. Stop caring so much about whitewashed comics. How the weather
lanterns probably was Brown skin looking.
But we were taught to believe like everything else. That
they were white. Get out of your white wash mine and expanded a little bit. Who
knows you might just enjoy the movie. FYI I’m black too, and it’s a crime for a
black man to be hating on another minority forgetting their spotlight!"
** 49. WolveWick "too bad namor isnt latino. another woke washing character"
** Reply 50. flm5 "@WolveWick he is aztec"
** Reply 51. WolveWick "@flm5 he isnt in comics."
** Reply 52. ChemyNoSurfea "@WolveWick keyphrase "in the comics" "
** Reply 53. Juan Duran "@WolveWick he should be now! Mexican Namor is going to
blow comic Namor out the water 😎 MCU synergy baby!"
** Reply 54. WolveWick " @ChemyNoSurfea keyphrase. another woke washing character to
fit check marks in movie."
** Reply 55. Sebastian Mohiam Darkholme Stormborn Harkness "@WolveWick tell me, who should play Namor?"
IDC bro just tired of see people that need acception in
world applauding this emptyless mcu with bad villains that they, mArVeL DiSnEy,
cant even give them the looks of comics. and they cant even give stories as
good as comics. they cant even give some heros the personality of comics, like
thor.
mcu is just a list check to fill the emptyness of people in
real life.
congratz for you people that get so hyped over shallow stuff
like mcu."
** Reply 57. MiraiElizabeth87 "@flm5 , right. They
should've gotten an Atlantean to play Namor. 🤦🏻♀️"
** Reply 58. Fernando Flova "@WolveWick and???"
** Reply 59. Sebastian Mohiam Darkholme Stormborn Harkness "WolveWick you say you dont care but you obviously
object to namor being played by some specific ethnicity. so, who should play
namor, because atlantean is not an option."
** Reply 60. Preston Nightwing "Man I'm half black half Mexican and my emotions are all over
the place 😭😭😭🙅🏾♂️🙅🏾♂️🙅🏾♂️
wakanda forever 💜🖤💜🖤"
** Reply 61. weebnibba15 "I'm half Black Belizean & half
Mexican mayan and I'm excited! 😭"
** Reply 62. Imperious Rex "@Hellkite1985
I wonder how the Mayan and Aztec culture make it all the way over to the
North Cost of Africa.
Location
ATLANTIS was a legendary island realm of
the far west which was sunk beneath the ocean by the gods to punish its people
for their immorality. The term "Atlanteans" was also applied by the
Greeks to the Phoenician colonies along the Barbary Coast of North Africa--i.e.
those living near the Atlas Mountains."
** 63. Anirudh Bharadwaj "It’s so interesting to see “inclusion” turn into segregation
so quickly. The Latino actors were hugging themselves and the black actors were
hugging themselves, they didn’t all embrace each other as if they were a family
like they said. Oh the irony."
** 64. DE BERGEVIN Hugues "Getting to see a hero/ villain of Mayan or Aztec descent is
super cool and refreshing and important as growing up on the west coast seeing
the changing feud between black and brown is well represented"
** Reply 65. Jay 88 "Why was there even a fued in the first place"
** Reply 66. DE BERGEVIN Hugues "@Jay 88 because of street beef with gangs and drugs:
** 67. Estela Astrid Aguilera Acosta "Sólo por el discurso de Tenoch Huerta ( que me dejó con la boca abierta, de lo buen actor que es en "Días de Gracia") y la presencia de Mabel Cadena (chingona en "el Baile de los 41") , regresaré a ver una peli de Marvel. Aquí no es Wakanda Forever, sino Poder Prieto Forever.😍🤩🤩" -snip- Google translate from Spanish to English: "Only because of Tenoch Huerta's speech (which left me open-mouthed, what a good actor he is in "Días de Gracia") and the presence of Mabel Cadena (a badass in "El Baile de los 41"), I will return to see a Marvel movie. Here it is not Wakanda Forever, but Poder Prieto Forever.😍🤩🤩" -snip- Google translate didn't translate "Poder Prieto Forever". I believe its English translation is "Power to Dark skinned people forever"
** 68. Chris Connors "Yes I have a feeling his performance will take him as a
actor to a whole new level, and open the doors for other Hispanics."
This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series on the 2018 Black Panther movie.
Part III of this series provides selected comments from a YouTube discussion thread about reactions to the 2018 Black Panther movie from Africans and from people from the African diaspora.
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An earlier version of this article includes selected comments from this discussion thread about the somewhat off-topic question about the differences between the terms "African Americans" and "Black American".
I've decided to publish a separate pancocojams post on this subject that includes those selected comments. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/02/comments-about-meanings-of-referents.html for the pancocojams post entitled "Comments About The Meaning/s Of The Referents "Black", "Black American", And "African American".
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The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are associated with the 2018 Black Panther movie. Thanks also to all others who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Africans Reacting to Marvels Black Panther Movie - NO SPOILERS
2nacheki, Published on Feb 17, 2018
Welcome to 2nacheki's Africa Trending News where we bring to you the latest Africa News trending through social media
Africans from all around the continent react to watching Black Panther. Enjoy the sights and Sounds From Africa
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Marvel Studios’ “Black Panther” follows T’Challa who, after the death of his father, the King of Wakanda, returns home to the isolated, technologically advanced African nation to succeed to the throne and take his rightful place as king. But when a powerful old enemy reappears, T’Challa’s mettle as king—and Black Panther—is tested when he is drawn into a formidable conflict that puts the fate of Wakanda and the entire world at risk. Faced with treachery and danger, the young king must rally his allies and release the full power of Black Panther to defeat his foes and secure the safety of his people and their way of life.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
These selected comments are from the discussion thread for the video entitled "Africans Reacting to Marvels Black Panther Movie - NO SPOILERS". These quotes are given without any editorial comments from me, except to indicate where profanity was given with asterisks in this compilation but not in the original comment.
The comments in this compilation were compiled from the 969 comments in discussion thread on February 20, 2019 (around 6:10 PM).
I recognize that other people might select another YouTube video (or several other YouTube videos) and their discussion thread/s. And I understand that other people might select different comments than the ones that I selected from the discussion thread for the video that is embedded in this post.
Some of these comments in this compilation are from people who identified themselves as Africans or who identified themselves as African Americans. Some other comments are from people who identified themselves as from the Caribbean, and some comments are from people who gave no national, continental identification, but can be assumed to be Black because of the content of their comments.
A considerable number of comments in that Africans Reacting to Marvels Black Panther Movie - NO SPOILERS" discussion thread were from White people operating as "trolls". These people posted comments that were stereotypical, racist, sarcastic, and/or belittling. Included among these comments were references to Black people as baboons, comments encouraging Black people to go back to Africa, and comments that referred to Black languages as "ooga booga". I've included a few of these trolling comments for historical and socio-cultural purposes.
These selected comments are given in relative chronological order with the earliest published comments given first, except for responses. Numbers have been assigned to these comments for referencing purposes only.
This is just one of many YouTube videos about reactions to the Black Panther movie. Another YouTube video about Africans reactions to the 2018 Black Panther movie is "Lyupito Nyong'o's Kenyan hometown hosts early premier of Black Panther" published by CGTN America, on Feb 14, 2018 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g76yrI0z1us.
1. Elder Sun, February 17, 2018
"I AM SO PUMPED TO SEE THIS MOVIE. THE WORLD IS READY. IT IS TIME. " WAKANDA FOREVER " 👍 ... 😬🇺🇸"
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2. Charles Baylor, February 17, 2018
"Africa Forever
Wakanda Forever"
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3. Jahiem Roberts, February 17, 2018
"Just love how everyone is so well attired! Beautiful..."
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4. Terry Power, February 17, 2018
"What a sight to behold! #BlackPantherDiaspora"
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5. AquadiLuisa, February 19, 2018
"Jahiem Roberts Actually, people IN Africa, dress their culture everyday. Those in the city mix traditional & modern all the time. It's only outside of Africa, people wear their tradition less often. To us it's not fashion, it's our culture. Peace & Blessings"
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6. sonic hedgehog, February 18, 2018
"yet wakanda doesn't exist."
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7. memyself4ever1, February 18, 2018
"Neither does Gotham City or Krypton you cowardly troll."
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8. Michael Omare, February 17, 2018
"watching this movie tomorrow"
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9. TheBrotherFromAnotherPlanet !, February 18, 2018
"Michael Omare Me too...👍😎✊"
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10. The King of Zamunda, February 18, 2018
"Michael Omare You are going to love it."
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11. Cashflow is Contagious!, February 18, 2018
"Well done, 2nacheki and thank you for sharing how the family is receiving the movie in the Motherland!!! Very inspiring to hear, see and feel the good vibes from everyone in your clip."
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12. Hebrew Sistah, February 19, 2018
"3:06 yes we are depicted in a positive light!"
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13. SuperiorWare, February 18, 2018
"Glad they loved the movie. Shouts Out To Africa. Us American Black People LOVE YOU!"
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14. Peace 1, February 18, 2018
"SuperiorWare
we love you too! ❤❤family reunion!"
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15. Kbaf4, February 18, 2018
"I will start celebrating when we start telling our own stories on the big screen. This isn't a critical or impactful moment as a lot of people are trying to make it out to be. Feels kinda pathetic that a white guy wrote this story and another white guy illustrated him and black people are celebrating it as if this is a monumental moment. It's as if we still have no power over our lives and destiny, you can only celebrate when white people decides to give you the spotlight. It's starting to seem to me too many of us just want to sit back, complain about racial and systematic injustices, and wait for white people to do something about it, hoping they change their ways. Because they don't believe in themselves. Because they've surrendered to white power/superiority. This movie means pretty much nothing for black people and Africa. And I bet a large percentage of this movies sales is going to be from black people. And all the money is also not going to the black community. Only impact this movie might have is focusing attention on why Africa, with all it's different, plentiful, and unique resources doesn't look like Wakanda. And maybe from those questions there will be more calls for a push for change. Lets tell our own stories on the big screens. We got a lot of them (epic and real ones). And lets make Africa great again."
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16. Linzie Rogers, February 18, 2018
"Excellent point. I posted earlier about being too quick to admire symbolism. You have made some salient inclusions."
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17. Sooper 17, February 19, 2018
"Very well said my friend! It's our thinking that needs to change and then we as a people must follow. We must learn to see the good in all things whether they come from our hands or from the hands of the oppressors. The world is watching and its time for us to make an example of ourselves and showcase the true nature of our people, our cause and our mighty potential. Being Ghanaian I can proudly say that this movie has fueled the dialogue needed within our communities to invoke change. The sleeping giant is about to rise from her slumber!"
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18. cmapp Yasharala, February 19, 2018
"a white person created the character but i believe a black man created the story. correct me if i'm wrong."
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19. lwgoinghome, February 19, 2018
"Stan Lee created the character in 1966 but the writer of this movie and the director are black. This version is also based on the comic book version written by Ta-Nehisi Coates and the other black screenwriter."
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20. Kervin Puckett, February 19, 2018
"First off, the movie and character pull mainly from Christopher Priest’s run who is credited as truly defining and creating Black Panther as we know him. True, white men had their hands on him first and who cares? He was not popular until a black man wrote and drew him, and it has been written and drawn by black men ever since. Get your hate straight dumb dumb."
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21. GhanaianFoundingFather'sDaughter, February 18, 2018
"Some say it's just a fantasy movie so we must get over it. But we've seen them draw inspiration from movies that portrayed their peoples for decades, while we the POAD(People of African descent) support their box office turnout and growth without complaining while supporting them.
So my question is this...why would a people whose very identity and global relevance have for centuries been fueled and sustained on the negation and denigration of the African continent and anything connected or extracted from it, dictate to us #POAD, about how we should feel and behave where the movie Black Panther is concerned?
#WeNeverFreeeeeze #WakandaForever"
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22. Shotta Zulu, February 19, 2018
"GhanaianFoundingFather'sDaughter truth"
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23. arkenfel, February 19, 2018
"Because they want it to stay a fantasy, they don't like afrofuturism. They want Africans to live in mud huts, and for them never to progress to a high technological level."
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24. Rick Wyatt Trading, February 19, 2018
"Thank you for the producers of this video. It was refreshing to see my African brothers and sisters have the same reaction we have here in America of this iconic movie. On a side note, its nice to see the economics in several parts of Africa as developed, unlike the stereotype many people see here as well. I have always been proud to be black but it increased 100 fold after this movie."
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25. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"Rick Wyatt Trading
you are always welcome in Africa ❤❤"
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26. james Kenzo, February 19, 2018
"Rick Wyatt Trading
Thank You brother Love From Africa"
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27. Man O War, February 18, 2018
"Thank you Africa for helping to break the white hollywood stereotype that black cinema "does not travel". As far as I'm concerned, Black American and African reaction to this film is all that matters to me.
It now proves to me that now BLACK producers and filmhouses can use their own writing, people, and production to draw our people internationally without using white money."
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28. Saro M, February 18, 2018
"Man O War ironically it was white Americans who gave life to this comic series"
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29. ANGELENE R, February 18, 2018
"Welcome's House Yes white man did BACK IN 1966"
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30. Vision L, February 18, 2018
"Stan Lee & Jack Kirby created the character."
But Director Ryan Coogler and Joe Robert Cole, both black America's wrote this story. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_(film)
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31. Burning Blue Saiyan Spirit Vegeta, Feb 18, 2018
"IT still is the WHITE mans movie let alone they created the character!"
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32. stylez p, February 18, 2018
"Saro M does correct,but at least we have a black crew working in this movie, but Disney owns Marvel now so in terms of distribution and copyrights they gonna make a huge money , we need more black independent produces"
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33. Away Etienne, February 18, 2018
"I believe we here, the Melinated folks here on the American continent and African continent need to have a Wakanda globally melinated people are everywhere, must not forget why the villain killmonger went against his people originally, he felt like the wakandans turned there back on the rest of the melenated folks that looked like him, truth is we are all Melanated Aboriginals wordwide and need to uplift each other to bring the planet back, the earth is suffering now we need to bring her back starting with building everywhere our own ways, methods and styles without interferences"
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34. Bernice Johnson-Johnson, February 18, 2018
"The world fears this kind of love , support and unity."
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35. Hisbeautiful Truth February 18, 2018
"Bernice Johnson-Johnson -- Yes it does. Its reflected in the comments ."
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36. Sam Manghane, February 18, 2018
"This is one of the most beautiful things I've ever seen. It was one thing for African Americans to be stoked about this movie, but to see beautiful Africans embracing this movie for the very same reason we are here in America...amazing. We all realize how important representation is."
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37. KuttyJoe, February 18, 2018
"That was great to see. I was wondering how my brothers and sisters on mainland felt about the movie and I'm encouraged by their responses. My 2 cents is that this reminds us of our commection. We in the diaspora are still sons and daughters of Africa. By force the connection was broken, but I feel like this movie can inspire us to remember that we are one, and that we can begin to behave that way."
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38. Rocky Mountain Rob, February 18, 2018
"I really liked this video. It made me happy. Great job, it was wonderful to see African people beaming about this. Yes, to see people portrayed in such a light is refreshing. I just get tired of hollywood typical black stereotypical portrayals of Blacks as Gangsta's or Slaves (i know there's more, Tyler Perry comes to mind...he's putting out good movies...but), as if there's only two points of interest and little else. Black Panther really hits it out of the park. I LOVE the fashion, not just in the movie, but the people seeing the movie. Good stuff."
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39. Mojo Tech,February 18, 2018
"Seems like these Africans are still disconnected and don't understand the message. Damn shame! Killmonger delivered the most important message from blacks who were removed from the continent to Africans. It is what it is I guess."
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40. Peace 1, February 18, 2018
"Mojo Tech
Im african and i got the message. He really represented the african american point of view. I just wanted to say that African Americans are always a part of africa and ALWAYS loved and welcome. You are wakandan like Michael 😉😁we as africans have to learn as well.. but we are getting there fast. We love you. Always!"
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41. makimoments, February 20, 2018
"Nah im African and killmongers message resonated strongly! You couldn't hate him!"
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42. B J, February 19, 2018
"The opinion of African people and the African Diaspora in general is all I care about. The movie was fantastic! All of these white people who seem to be so upset that there is a film that is not over represented by Europeans/whites can go to hell. The complaints are unbelievable. Africa for the Africans!"
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43. Helmut Weikert February 19, 2018
"B J Africa for Africans huh? How about Europe for Europeans ( whites ). Go ahead, call me a racist you f&&king* hypocrite"
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*This word was fully spelled out in that comment.
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44. RealismOfLife, February 19, 2018
"No you're not racist, just don't go around the world , taking and mistreating other people like you're ancestors have been doing for over 1000 years and you're good. When we start to prosper like we did with Tulsa Oaklahoma where yall bombed a black thriving economic city in america just keep away from that mindset and you're good , just stay your colonizing ass in Europe AND YOU'RE GOOD!!!!!But you guys can't do that , why because you have a supremacist mindset that hate black it's in your nature. The U.S have focus on the blacks for soo long that your silly asses forgot about the Chinese NOW THEY'RE ABOUT TO TAKE OVER because your dollar is falling sir, you time is almost up sir . It's funny"
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45. Christopher Neal, February 19, 2018
"Helmut Weikert but what's so funny is that some white people in the u.s. r quick tell blacks to go back to Africa but get upset when we say go back to Europe"
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46. mega jay, February 19, 2018
"B J if white people dont want to see it as well they'd never be a Panther II as the box office wouldn't be large enough. I'm white, my wife is African and we both loved it - White people invented the characters, financed & distributed the film globally. enough of the racial bulls&&t*. It's time to try to get past the mistakes of our ancestors and take a lesson from the movie. And one day see past skin colour as Martin Luther King said"
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47. SuperiorWare, February 19, 2018
"FACTS FACTS FACTS BRO. I could care less is anyone besides africans didn't like it. Africans loved it so thats all that matters. White people wanted us in shackles and with no clothes on again. We tired of slave movies. Its annoying."
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48. SuperiorWare, February 18, 2018
"Ya'll had all ya'll movies. We didn't say nothing. Once the black man has a movie where he winning. THE HATE BECOMES REAL! IT ONLY MATTERS IF AFRICANS LIKE IT!"
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49. Sr Ho, February 18, 2018
"A beautiful cast of Black actors set amidst a storyline of Black against Black violence.... celebrate the beauty and intelligence of Black people everywhere, but be cautious of the subliminal messages."
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50. Goddess Goddess, February 18, 2018
"This entire experience is like a long overdue family reunion!!! Our Ancestors are proud... In my Killmonger voice:
Hey 👋🏾 Auntie !!!!"
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51. darmedusa February 18, 2018
"Ok... A stamp of approval from the MOTHERLAND! Now I will go see it! Lol
WE are beautiful!"
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52. Josh D, February 18, 2018
"darmedusa I’ll chip in for a one way ticket for ya to go back to your mother land"
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53. Shelinda Harris, February 18, 2018
"Josh D As soon as you chip in to take your ass back to Europe then we will leave TOGETHER. This is not your country. The caves of Europe awaits😂"
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54. darmedusa, February 18, 2018
"Shelinda Harris (SMH) It's a shame that there's people out there who have nothing else better to do than being the pathetic, simps they are and troll people's comments just to have something racist and/or stupid to say! What miserable people.
I don't respond or go back and forth with stupidity. Doing so unnecessarily feeds their tiny brains and waste my time. But thanks for the back up Sis!
Smack 'em down, girl!! 💪👍😋"
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55. Peace 1, February 18 2018
"darmedusa you are always loved and welcomed in Africa ❤"
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56. MamaMysteriouspgh, February 18, 2018
"I just came back from watching BLACK PANTHER I Loved it!!!! I couldn't sleep last night in anticipation, I still have chills from the awesomeness of it all.... I told my son that I'm thinking about shaving my head and represent, for the sistaz of strength and power. #Wakanda4Life"
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57. MamaMysteriouspgh, February 18, 2018
"the theater I was in this afternoon was sold out and only a handful of the people were black.... wypipo were everywhere, waiting to watch the movie too."
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58. cmapp Yasharala, February 18, 2018
"wypipo, lol"
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59. Hisbeautiful Truth, February 18, 2018
"MamaMysteriouspgh -- I noticed that too, here in Virginia. Surrounded by them. And some were so stiff and uptight 😆😆"
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60. Peace 1, February 18, 2018
"MamaMysteriouspgh
loved it too, sooo beautiful 😍😍😍😍😍"
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61. Denise Harris, February 18, 2018
"Hisbeautiful Truth I'm sure all that melanin scared them to death! Lol"
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63. Allen Kir Carter, February 19, 2018
"FINALLY❗️❗️❗️
A SuperHero Movie That Doesn’t originate In a european nation👍🏿👍🏿👍🏿❗️❗️❗️"
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64. Sheri Townsend, February 19, 2018
"I too am tired of the endless civil rights/ slave/ hood/ poverty stricken narratives that constantly depict us as victims. I only hope Black Panther inspires Black artists, directors and producers, around the world, to ALSO create future pictures of such quality. There's OBVIOUSLY a demand for it."
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65. Stefanie the co dependent no more, February 19, 2018
"African American bitterness is real and will never be killed until things Change in america. kilmonger was also trying to fight for his ppl too."
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66. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"Stefanie the co dependent no more
I am african and i definitely see how he portayed the african american point of view.
African americans will always be welcomed and loved in Africa.❤❤
We will reunite. Coons have been ruling back then and are still today. But we as a people love our lost family. Always."
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67. Stefanie the co dependent no more, February 19, 2018
"Peace 1 Thank you. That means alot"
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68. BOA54, February 19, 2018
"Yazz!!!!!!!!! Black Panther!! All the way!!! Nigeria !!!!! 🙌🏼🙌🏼 the cinemas are packed!! A movie that we can totally relate to"
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69. nate smith, February 19, 2018
"This is great. im African American but looking at the reactions makes me feel that I'm not that far removed from African people.we really seem more alike than diffrent.even though after we came to america our history was stripped from us."
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70. Peace February 19, 2018
"nate smith
absolutely we are still family. And you are ALWAYS loved and welcomed in Africa ❤❤
(dont forget to show your lower lip😁👆)"
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71. nate smith, February 19, 2018
"Peace 1 thanks well meet up in wakanda."
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72. Lavette Miller, February 19, 2018
"Love it. I'm just so excited about the feeling of pride that this movie gave to black people everywhere. The clothing and all"
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73. sami sadler February 19, 2018
"Lavette Miller _ We see the movie. Now let's make it real!!!"
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74. RASHTG, February 19, 2018
"Lavette Miller But but but.... what do you want to make a racial thing out of it thou?
Also Africans relate more as the clothing’s aren’t just clothing. They have meaning and some values and some are passed down from 1 generation to the next. Most black Americans have zero clue. They only like it because it’s made by black people and in Africa.
How many of you guys ever heard of Benin? 😂"
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75. moval moval
"Rashy stop speaking for everyone like you know exactly what is in their brain. Take a damn seat and stay seated"
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76. Tracelle Moore, February 19, 2018
"This is huge for the Diaspora I want us to put our gifts together and create these works of art and support each other financially so we can become a global superpower"
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77. Peace 1. February 19, 2018
"Tracelle Moore yesss"
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78. Lilli L'amour, February 19, 2018
"It goes to show Africans and Africans in the diaspora when working together, we make beautiful things happen. We have the same desire of respect and self worth. It’s nice to see how this film has brought us together."
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79. james Kenzo, February 19, 2018
"Lilli L'amour
Well said Yeah we Africans must work together you see How We made it when we Work together? We should stop discriminate each other My Sister"
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80. Nick Leche, February 19, 2018
"ITS AMAZING TO SEE HOW THE MOVIE SPECTATORS DRESSED JUST TO SEE AN ALL BLACK MARVEL HERO ACT IN A HOLLYWOOD BLOCKBUSTER FILM,ITS AN HONOR TO SEE HOW THE DIRECTOR AND ALL THOSE WHO HELPED TO MAKE THIS MOVIE A HIT,HAS PUT IN THEOR ALL TO MAKE THIS MOVIE SO GREAT,FOR ONCE AFRICANS WERE SEEN FOR SOMETHING GREAT AND NOT ALWAYS SEEN IN THE WAY THE WORLD VIEW US,THANK YOU AND NUFF PROPS TO THE FULL CAST,COMING FROM TRINIDAD AND TOBAGO"
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81. WorldBeat7, February 19, 2018
"this film was epic, awesome in every way! right oN! Wakanda Forever!!
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82. Mike GS, February 19, 2018
"BP IS GREAT IM SO HYPED TO SEE IT. but i wanna see real african heros in the cinima shaka zulu, emperor menelik, queen nizinga, queen Candace,...."
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83. gsr4079, February 19, 2018
"Displaced African living in America here... thanks for sharing this. Too often we don't see videos of our brothers and sisters in the homeland. I like to see how we look and talk and carry ourselves at home. Also looking forward to seeing Black Panther. thanks for filming and sharing this."
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84. Josh D, February 19, 2018
"gsr4079 I’ll chip in for a one way ticket to send you back to the baboons that traded you to the white man"
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85. gsr4079, February 19, 2018
"@Josh - thanks. I'll chip in a few bucks to help you get back to your cave in the caucus mountains so you can live in peace with your neanderthal brethren. that way you can live in your own s&&t* and walk on all fours without anyone judging you for it."
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86. Nepthu, February 19, 2018
"I hate it when black people say no heroes look like them. Have they never watched Blade, Spawn or Storm from X-Men? There's also been Zack, the black Power Ranger and numerous other black heroes."
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87. Chayah Yisrael, February 19, 2018
"Nepthu Why does it bother you? I as a black person belive blacks go too far in certain things but being excited for a movie is somehow a crime? Oh and ps, go ahead and name me a black super hero movie with a majority black cast. I'll wait."
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88. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"gsr4079
African Americans are ALWAYS loved and welcomed in Africa, because you are a part of us ❤❤❤"
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89. Kervin Puckett, February 19, 2018
"Nepthu those were mostly just black faces on white movies speaking what white writers think they should say and feel. This is the first true Black superhero movie of this scale, where we speak, sound, feel the way we do in reality."
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90. ItsOnly MeMsKim, February 19, 2018
"Nepthu ,Always a r@cist somewhere lurking to post on blk ppl success! IT'S A FICTIONAL MOVIE,DUMB@SS!"
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91. Warren London, February 19, 2018
"The Unity we are witnessing from this movie is simply BEAUTIFUL! 😍❤🌍✨"
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92. Water Fountain, Fbruary 19, 2018
"Killmonger is one of my faves in this film. His actions were justified, coming from a blk person's perspective of the African diaspora. Love seeing the dark skin women, strong and feminine at the same time. Blk panther was cool too. Love the costume designs, and the fact that they put real life African nations into the looks."
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93. Lady de Narbonna. February 19, 2018
"I was waiting to hear what African people thought of it. I know some are not saying everything that they truly think here because they don't want to ruin the moment for others. But I'm glad overall they enjoyed it. I have certain reservations about it, but I'm now interested to see it."
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94. ttombow, February 19, 2018
"I like how one of the movie goers is talking about diversity ect.. while wakanda the fictional perfect utopia had none, no one is allowed in, it has borders, no refugees allowed , it's an ethnostate lol. It was an ok movie but I prefer balde"
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95. J Bezzie, February 19, 2018
"It's sad that the Africans in this video are so eager to be acknowledged by the mainstream that they are mostly ignoring what's wrong with this movie. The one guy was pretty accurate and concise. He said "it's like they are massaging the African ego"
If you, as a black person can totally ignore some of the brainwashing going on in this movie, It's actually pretty good, (as far as Disney movies go)..."
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96. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"J Bezzie
african ego needs to massaged MUCH more often.
Whites and asians get it daily 😂
This is just the beginning."
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96. J Bezzie, February 19, 2018
"Peace 1
Nobody's ego needs to be massaged if they are self aware.
It at least takes a little bit more than a child to figure this out.
Africans have Africans to build confidence in who they are. The whole movement for African independence is to be independent. Financially, mentally, and (spiritually)!
Feeding egos only leads to egoism. Just look at white society for reference."
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97. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"J Bezzie yes african egos need to be deeply massaged. They lack basic confidence. Thats why this is celebrated. And this will inspire black youth to be amazing future artists. Every child deserves a relatable superheroe. 👍👌❤"
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98. dmcarden, February 19, 2018
"The sister at 3:04 from Nigeria, she stated it perfectly! The brothers following her were also on point. It really was nice to see the diversity WITHIN africa as well as the diaspora, and to see us in great roles vs. yet another slave movie (nothing against portraying our truth and obstacles we've faced but enough!). I'm almost 56 years old and to see Africa portrayed beautifully, in fact, what it could have been without colonization (and what it still can be) is ..something I never thought I would have seen in my lifetime (plus I've been reading Black Panther comic book for about 30 years)."
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99. Peace 1, February 19, 2018
"dmcarden wow its truly a blessing, and we will rise even more ❤❤"
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100. Robert Walker, February 19, 2018
"Black panther party Eldridge cleaver Bobby seal fbi infiltration real history I cant get excited about pure fantasy I’m just not hard wired for entertainment. The black youth need to be told the truth."
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101. Shai Reindolph, February 19, 2018
"Black Panther just corrected the mistakes of the movie "gods of Egypt". Cant wait to see Part 2 of this with a taste of the Ashanti kingdom sprinkled on it. Nice one."
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102. LICKMYNYNE, February 19, 2018
"Why did use a south African language if wakanda is where Uganda and Tanzania is in real life? Shouldn't they had used Swahili?"
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103. Dee Naijaboi, February 19, 2018
"I want to say a massive thank you to my blood who put this together. More grease to your elbow".
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This concludes this three part pancocojams series on the 2018 Black Panther movie.
