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Sunday, October 5, 2025

Documenting Some United States Cities Where Black Girls Used The Title "Shame Shame Shame" For The Hand Clap Rhyme "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico"


Vibing With P, Jan 11, 2021  #SOFAMOUSENT

90’s HAND GAMES WITH TAKEEYA LA’TI ( HILARIOUS 🀣 )
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The hand clap rhyme that these two Black women call "Kiss Kiss Kiss" is the first rhyme in this video [beginning around .53 to around 1:14].
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total number of views for this YouTube video 
as of October 6, 2025 at 1:13 PM72,139

total number of comments for this video's discussion thread as of October 6, 2025 at 1:13 PM- 254 
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Here's the words to the version of this rhyme that is chanted in this video:
"R
eady? Yeah one two three
Kiss kiss kiss
I don’t wanna go to Mexico no more, more, more
There’s a big fat policeman at the door, door, door
He grabbed me by my collar
Made me pay a dollar
I don’t want to go to Mexico no more
Kiss!"

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision- October 6, 2025

This pancocojams post presents a few comments from a discussion thread of a YouTube video about English language hand games (hand clap rhymes).

These comments document that most of these commenters used/use "Shame Shame Shame" as the title for the recreational rhyme "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico".* 

However, as these comments also document other 
titles were/are used for that rhyme in different United States cities. 

All of these comments correspond to additional examples of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" that I have directly collected offline and which I have collected online.

The content of this post is presented for historical, folkloric, socio-cultural, and recreational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. 
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* Read my comment in the discussion thread for this video about other Black American girl's recreational rhymes that also begin with the introductory phrase "Shame Shame Shame" or similar words".
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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
My use of the term "Black Girls' hand clap rhymes" (or more specifically "Black American girls' hand clap rhymes) doesn't mean that only Black American girls performed these rhymes. 

I use those terms to indicate that these recreational rhymes are most associated with Black American girls (or should most often be associated with Black American girls because they are most often performed by that population..

I also use that term because Black American girls were the composers of these these  versions of those recreational rhymes even if- in the case of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" which was originally titled "I Don't Want To Go To Macy's"-Black American girls may not have been the original composers of that recreational rhyme. 
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-real-origin-of-i-dont-to-go-to.html for the 2017 pancocojams post entiteld "
The REAL Origin Of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" Rhymes (also known as "Shame" & "Shame Shame Shame")."

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD OF THIS YOUTUBE VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EwhAP3nwJWQ&lc=UgyLUhJuNyFKheIkrk14AaABAg.9IOH9_9c1Sf9IOJfA3Eisn
"90’s HAND GAMES WITH TAKEEYA LA’TI ( HILARIOUS 🀣 )"

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

2021

1.@bumblebee1946
"The first one we used to call shame, shame, shame πŸ˜ƒ"

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2. @nlyneja7614
"I thought it was shame, shame, shame I don’t wanna go Mexico no more more 😭😭"

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3. @LinahH.
"it is 😭"

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4. @ainayiahteagle4959
"I’ve never heard the kiss, kiss, kiss versionπŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I heard shame, shame, Shame I don’t wanna go to Mexico no more more more πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

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5. @vibingwithp4116
"Lmaoo see we say kiss kiss kiss ... I saw some people was saying shame shame shame I ain’t ever heard that one"
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Read comment #26 below in which @vibingwithp4116 indicated that she and the other woman in this video are from Michigan. However, notice that comment #9 is from a person who's from Detroit, Michigan. That commenter wrote that this rhyme was called "Shame" in Detroit.

These comments document what I have found before- that more than one title could be used for the same recreational rhyme in different cities in the same state (at the same time and within the same racial/ethnic/and gender population.) 

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6. @balisflem9400, 2020
"Yea P it was shame shame shame.. in the burg"
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“The burg” probably refers to  Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. As a long time resident of Pittsburgh, I can verify from direct experiences that Black American girls in a number of majority Black neighborhoods of Pittsburgh and some of its surrounding communities chanted "Shame Shame Shame" as an introductory phrase before the other words to "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" rhymes in the 1990s and the early 2000s. 

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7. @royal-messenger
"Number 1: We called it Shame Shame Shame (Ive never heard of it being called Kiss, Kiss, Kiss)."

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8. @alexuswhite8097
"Same here in Kentucky. Lol theirs is cute though. πŸ€—πŸ€—πŸ€—"

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9. @djapz2
"Shame here in Detroit too. It's funny how hand games change with different ppl"

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10. @WatABlessing33
"I said the same thing lol I’m from Jersey"

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11. @kamijahtyler6811
" @alexuswhite8097  right I’m from ky and that’s wat we call it"
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This commenter had written "my" and corrected her comment to "ky" [Kentucky"] in the very 
next comment.

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12. @erica.moniquee
"me too(mobile)"
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"Mobile" = Mobile, Alabama

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13. @MrBattle123
"NC too"
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NC = North Carolina

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14. @ericaturner5355
"It’s definitely shame shame shame"

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15. @SpicePrincess1890
"Same, in Ohio lol

It's really interesting because there is no telling where or how these rhymes started, and there's always a billion versions of them 🀣🀣

Cause I've heard another version of that same rhyme that says "he will grab you by the collar, make you scream and holler" instead of "hang you by your collar, make you pay a dollar"."

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16. @adrianajimenez6422
"Yup shame also in chicago πŸ˜‚"

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17. @kittyKatfish
"Shame and Gorilla in Georgia"
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I'm not sure what this commenter meant. Is she saying that this rhyme is called "Shame and Gorilla" in Georgia or either the title "Shame" or the title "Gorilla" in that state? 

This is the first time that I've come across the word "Gorilla" used in reference to "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" rhymes. Does anyone have any experience with "Gorilla" being used [in Georgia] or anywhere else as the title for this rhyme? 

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18. @amanituelle
"I'm from California and we say kiss kiss kiss 🀣

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19. @rizmak920
"I think it's different but similar depending on where you from like slide is numbers for me and I'm from NYC."
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"Slide" is another Black American girl's recreational rhyme. That rhyme was/is called "Numbers" or "Slide Slide Slippery Slide" and/or other names dependent on which city you're in.

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2023

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20. @LadiieRedd
"Maybe the SOUF said Shame shame shame. Cause I never heard kiss either"
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"the SOUF"= the South. This spelling is probably mimicking how some people from the South pronounce that word. 

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2024

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21. @dabalm60
"Im from Philly we said Shame and the ending is different we said it’s a big fat police man at the door door door door, if he grab you by the collar girlllll you betta holla πŸ˜‚"
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"Philly" = Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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22. @TheJenuineWay
"@dabalm60  hey, I’m from Philly too. This is the comment I was looking for πŸ™ŒπŸΎ"

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23. @anjelicathomas-dapuzzo9590
"Yeah we did shame shame shame in Chicago"

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24. @ShantelJones-h3p
"Same in Vegas ! SHAME SHAME SHAME"

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25. @kaylarose6493
"Where are you guys from cus these are the exact rhymes I remember"

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26. @vibingwithp4116
"Michigannnn!!!!"

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27.@kaylarose6493
"@vibingwithp4116  me too πŸ˜‚"

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28. @sistertujuana4834
"It’s amazing how these games travel all around the country but we have different words or different movements. In Chicago we had some different words for parts of these songs and some different movements but this brought back so many memories with cousins and friends. Now I’m trying to teach my daughter"

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29. @elishevaisrael7314
"Right!! Girls obviously getting faster and faster...if u know what I'm saying. When I played those games, nobody's mind was on no dang kissing"

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30. @chenanahbest5390
" @vibingwithp4116 yeah we called it shake shake in the dmv area"
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"DMV"= Washington D.C, Maryland, and Virginia area.

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31. @valerian_steel
"We used to call it shame also in chicago"

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32. @malayariley1117
"@dabalm60 I’m from Ohio and u said it this way! πŸ˜‚"

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33. @Steph-yl7by
"@dabalm60 I’m from MD and that’s how I remember it too lol"
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"MD"= Maryland.

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Sunday, May 18, 2025

"I Don't Want To Go To Hollywood" And Other Variant Examples Of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico No More" Recreational Rhymes


CanadianQueen76, Jun 30, 2013
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Here are the words to this version of "I Don't Want To Go To Hollywood No More" (given here as the "Shame Hand Game Hollywood):

"Shame, Shame Shame
I don't want to go to Hollywood no more more more
There's a big fat policeman at the door door door
He will hang you by the head
Make you pee the bed
I don't want to go to Hollywood no more

[Try to be the first one to slap your partner on her forehead as you say]

Shame!


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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision - May 2, 2026

This pancocojams post presents some information about the history of the large family of children's recreational rhymes that are now known as "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico No More" (or similar words). 

This post also showcases a few examples of variant forms of those rhymes that have the title "I Don't Want To Go To Hollywood No More". Like many other variant forms of "I Don't Want To Mexico No More"  (originally "I Don't Want To Go To Macy's), these examples usually begin with the phrase "shame shame shame" and/or end with the word "shame".

Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-real-origin-of-i-dont-to-go-to.html for the pancocojams post entitled "The REAL Origin Of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" Rhymes (also known as "Shame" & "Shame Shame Shame")"

Click "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" for other pancocojams posts about this rhyme.

Also, click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/10/the-word-shame-in-childrens-rhymes-part.html for Part I (Shame Shame Double Shame" rhymes).

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The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, recreational, and aesthetic purposes.


All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Ti & Naish who are featured in this showcase YouTube video and thanks to the publisher of that video on YouTube.Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/09/the-real-origin-of-i-dont-to-go-to.html for the closely related 2017 pancocojams post entitled "The REAL Origin Of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" Rhymes".

WARNING: Some websites whose links are provided in this post includes examples & comments that include profanity, explicit sexual content, homophobic references, and other content that I consider to be inappropriate for children. There is also a Hip Hop record that has a title that is the same or similar to this. I consider that record to be very inappropriate for children.

This "family" of children's recreational rhymes/cheers isn't the same as the "Hollywood Swinging" family of rhymes/cheers. Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/05/examples-of-hollywood-goes-swingin.html Examples Of "Hollywood Goes Swingin" Foot Stomping Cheers & Hand Clap Rhymes (1976 - the early 2000s) for one of the pancocojams posts of "Hollywood Swinging" rhymes/cheers.

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HISTORY AND OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT "I DON'T WANT TO GO TO MEXICO" RHYMES
[I originally wrote this section of this post in 2023 as an update for the 2013 pancocojams post 
"Shame Shame Shame"/"I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" Children's Rhymes (Sources & Text Examples) whose link is given above. This is a May 2025 update of that section.

"Original" version of this rhyme

"I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" is a large family of playground rhymes. The earliest version of these rhymes “I Won’t Go To Macy’s Any More, More More” was chanted as a jump rope jingle in 1938:
"I won't go to Macy's any more, more, more!
I won't go to Macy's any more, more, more!
There's a big fat policeman at the door, door, door!
He will squeeze me like a lemon.
A chalachke zol em nehmen.*
I won't go to Macy's any more, more, more!"
-http://www.barrypopik.com/index.php/new_york_city/entry/i_wont_go_to_macys_any_more_more_more_jump_rope_jingle_1938

*No information is given about the meaning of this line.

That post indicates that that rhyme is "also in the book Rimbles: A book of children's classic games, rhymes, songs, and sayings (1955, 1956, 1960, 1961) by Patricia Evans, pg. 30."

That post also includes this 14 April 1946, New York Times, "Jump-Rope Jingles," pg. 109 version of "I Don't Want To Go To Macys":

"I won't go to Macy's any more, more, more.
There's a big fat policeman at the door, door, door.
He takes me by the collar, and makes me pay a dollar.
So, I won't go to Macy's any more. more. more."
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That example is closer to many contemporary [1980 - to date] versions of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" rhyme than the 1938 version.

Why children changed the word "Macys" to the word "Mexico"

It's my position that the word "Mexico" is used in these rhymes instead of the word "Macys" because children weren't (aren't) familiar with the store name "Macys" but were (are) familar with the country name "Mexico".  This is an example of “folk etymology”. Folk etymology occurs when people change foreign words or unfamiliar words into familiar words or sounds that are similar to the word they don’t know.

This rhyme is not meant to disparage Mexicans or the nation of Mexico.


For what it's worth, I don't think that "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" rhyme is meant to disparage Mexicans or the nation of Mexico in any way. Also, just because a written or spoken composition mentions not wanting to go to Mexico, it doesn't mean that that composition is about immigration. [I've read both of these opinions online about this rhyme.]

Substituting the word "Mexico" for some other location

Since at least the 1980s, the word "Mexico" has been replaced in some versions of this rhyme with "college" such as "I Don't Want To Go To College" in Barbara Michel's and Bettye White's 1983 book of Houston, Texas African American children's rhymes Apple On A Stick.... 

Here's the version of  "I Don't Want To Go To College" rhyme that is found in the 1983 book Apple On A Stick:

I don’t want to go to college
Anymore more more.
There’s a big fat policeman
At the door, door, door.
He’ll pull you by the collar
Make you pay a dollar.
See what I mean,
Jelly Bean.
Wash your face with gasoline.
Jump in a lake.
Swallow a snake.
Come back home with a tummy ache."

Substituting "policeman" for some other person or for some animal

Also, since at least the 1980s, the words "big fat policeman" has been retained in some examples of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" (and similarly titled rhymes). However, in other examples, the policeman has been replaced with "a big fat boy" or "a big fat person named ______ " or "a big mean lady", "a big fat lizard", "a big fat gorilla", "a cute little boy", "two cute boys", "a big fat Michael Jackson" or "a skinny Michael Jackson" etc.

Furthermore, the lines "he'll grab you by the collar/make you pay a dollar" has morphed into such variants as "he'll grab you by the collar, boy (or "girl") you better holler", "he'll grab you by the hips/make me kiss his lips", "he'll grab you buy the pants/make you do a dance" and a number of other versions.

Beginning this rhyme with the words "shame shame shame" and sometimes ending this rhyme with the word "shame" 

Another significant development that has occurred with versions of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico rhymes (originally "I Don't Want To Go To Macy's") rhymes is the inclusion of the beginning introductory phrase "shame shame shame" and/or the ending word "shame". In the context of these rhymes, the word "shame" means "shame on you" (i.e. "You should be ashamed for what you did". Example #15 of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" given below ends with the words "Shame on you". 

Among African Americans, the rhyme "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" is commonly known as "Shame Shame Shame" or "Shame" because the introductory words "Shame Shame Shame" is often found in African American versions of that rhyme. However, some other African American derived playground rhymes also include this "shame shame shame" introductory line. Part IV of this series features examples of those rhymes.

The earliest date that I've found thus far for an example of "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" which begins with the words "shame shame shame" is the mid 1980s (North Carolina). .... Note that the "I Don't Want To Go To College" example from the 1983 book Apple On A Stick which I previously referred has no introductory line and no ending word/s such as "Shame" or "Shut the door".

My guess is that the use of the words "shame shame shame" as an introductory phrase was inspired by the title of the 1974/1975 R&B record "Shame Shame Shame" by Shirley & Company. In turn, the "shame shame shame" title & that phrase -but not other parts of that song's lyrics- might have been influenced by the "shame shame double shame" line in the playground rhyme "Water Water Wallflower". However, I believe that in the context of these "I Don't Want To Go To Mexico" (and variant words) rhymes, the words "shame shame shame" probably originally meant something like "Aren't you ashamed?". 

The ending word "shame" or its alternative end line "Shut the door!" serve a similar lightly competitive function as the ending word "Freeze!" which appears in many hand clap rhymes. However, instead of "freezing in place" as is done when the word "Freeze!" is chanted, the partners compete to be the first person to say the end word "Shame!" or the end line "Shut the door!". While chanting that line the hand clap partners attempt to be the first one to poke or push their partner. Or, instead of that action, the partners may just compete to be the first one to say that word or line with the person saying it first being considered the "winner".


Introductory phrases are a common feature of some African Americans playground rhymes. In addition to "shame shame shame", other African American derived introductory phrases for playground rhymes are "Zing Zing Zing And The Deep Blue Sea", "Zing Zing Zing" At The Bottom Of The Sea", "1 2 3 Hit It" and "ABC Hit It". The introductory phrase "Uno Dos Siesta: and similar phrases" can also be considered in this category although it is a folk etymology form of the Spanish numbers Uno Dos Tres" (1, 2, 3).

The usual performance activities for these rhymes

The editors of the Apple On A Stick book didn't specify what type of performance activity accompanied these rhymes (such as jumping rope or doing partner of group hand clap routines.) However, since at least the 1980s, it appears to me that partner hand clapping routines or some other form of hand clapping routines became the activity of choice for African American girls chanting recreational rhymes.]    

Click http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZwisYKgKRw for a video of that "Shame, Shame, Shame" song. Also, click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shame,_Shame,_Shame_(Shirley_%26_Company_song) for information about that song & its singers