Parkrose Permaculture, Oct 12, 2025
****Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video and presents comments about the Purple Revolution after it has been reported that Brian Murphy, the White ex-MAA who founded the Purple Revolution movement has reportedly returned to MAGA.
The content of this post is presented for historical, political, and socio-cultural, and political purposes.
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Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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"MAGA" is an acronym for Donald Trump's slogan "Make America Great Again". Therefore, a "MAGA" is a follower of Donald Trump.
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This post is a continuation of these previous four part pancocojams posts about the Purple Revolution:
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/10/black-american-commenters-in-tabitha.html Part I-"Black American Commenters On A Tabitha Speaks Politics Discussion Thread Are Largely Distrustful Of The United States' "Purple Revolution" That Was Recently Founded By A Former MAGA Supporter"
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https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/10/comments-from-white-people-from-two.html Part II-"Comments From White People From Two YouTube Discussion Threads About The United States' "Purple Revolution" Movement That Is Being Promoted By A Former MAGA Supporter"
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https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/10/why-choosing-name-purple-revolution-was.html Part III -"Why Choosing The Name "Purple Revolution" Was A Big Mistake For The Name Of The Social Movement That Was Founded In October 2025 By The Former MAGA Supporter"
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https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/10/the-purple-revolution-in-united-states.html Part IV-"The Purple Revolution In The United States (2025) : Accountability & Racism"
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD OF THE EMBEDDED VIDEO
"Evolving thoughts on The Purple Revolution and America's future with deconstructing MAGA"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13gkla1STKA
Here's the description of the "Parkrose Permaculture" YouTube podcast:
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All of these comments were published on October 12, 2025. I added numbers for referencing purposes only.
1.@Livingfreewithpaleo
"I remember you had a few videos where you talking about him.
That’s how I found him.
I struggled to even connect with him.
I trust black women first.
What we need to do is to find those 3rd party voters and the
90 million people who stayed home.
We need them.
MAGA can deal with their own issues."
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Reply
2. @ParkrosePermaculture
"Yes I mentioned him in a video after he made his
first video before it became "purple revolution" and I've been
watching since to see how the discourse evolves. I do really think we need a
space for people to deconstruct in public and be an example to other (white
conservative male?) maga. But
documenting the process is very different than trying to lead a revolution."
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3. @knittiotsavant
"Yeah, I’ve seen him say some things that I found disturbing
and unfollowed him. He seems unhappy about what Trump has done that affects
him, but I saw no awareness of the massive harm happening to people who he
clearly doesn’t give a damn about. I’m extremely dubious about him."
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4. @joshuamoore8560
"MY question is: how are we supposed to tell the difference
between a genuine change o' heart and merely crass opportunism? I know you and
CC had productive conversations with Brian and may have therefore been able to
look past his ongoing deeply-problematic beliefs, but he did NOT present that
side of himself to the public. He wanted to take control of a largely
center-left movement without taking a moment to reflect or even signaling a
willingness to change his own odious ideology (beyond the first couple of
videos, that is.) And then, when the rest of us here are like "whoa, pump
the brakes just a minute, guy. Trust is hard to come by these days," he
freaks and days "well, I'm taking my Purple Revolution and going
home!" We all get that deconstruction is difficult; it took me years to
come to grips with losing my faith. And I STILL have Christians in my life
gently suggesting that I reconsider God and his "wonderful plan for my
life." Difference is: I did it in private. He did not and is learning the
lesson: No Kings... means EXACTLY THAT."
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"CC"= "Cult College" is another YouTube podcast and is the screen name of a young White woman whose focus is helping people who have left cults. Cult College is an early supporter of Brian Murphy's Purple Revolution.
Videos and comments from that podcast are found in some of the previous pancocojams posts on the Purple Revolution (The links to those posts are found above).
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5. @apparentlylivin
"The Purple Revolution at first glance is great but tbh
they aren't trying to talk policy, they aren't trying to deconstruct or self
reflect. They just want to move on from MAGA without confronting the
ideology, behavior and actions that create a MAGA movement. They want to be the
Captain America of the revolution. They never really consider that not everyone
is going to be Che Guevara or Malcolm X or Nelson Mandela. They have to learn
that they need to remove their individualistic mindset and learn how to be in a
community that is consistent with self reflection and understanding why
oppressed people wouldn't trust them. They need therapy and deconstruction."
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6. @consentofthegoverned1
"Throughout my own journey, I've learned that nobody changes
if they don't want to. People don't want to change until the pain of staying
the same becomes greater than the pain of change.
Allowing them comfort before they are committed to that change is enabling them to stay the same. They will receive my energy when they commit their own energy. Until then, and even during deconstruction, don't trust them.
And yes, I would've said the same thing about myself during my own journey. Although I was never malevolent, I was damn naive, self assured, and around the wrong people... a very toxic mix."
6.
"When a former fascist says they don't want to discuss policy or make it about politics, I know they're not
former anything. Because I have fewer rights than I did a few years ago, so
it absolutely is about politics for me."
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7. @jameshaygreen7179
"Thank you for making this video. As a queer white person,
I've felt some... trepidation, from working with people coming straight from
extremist groups. Some of your previous videos made me a little uncomfortable
with the discussion of working with people of a broad spectrum from the other
side of the aisle. But this clarified your understanding of how this should
work in your opinion, and I found it very comforting.
I'm not from America, but the battle for your democracy is affecting a lot of other places. And in some ways it is being echoed in my own home, even if it's to a somewhat less extreme extent. Your insight is very comforting, thank you very much for it. And know that people around the world who you may ever meet are cheering on your success!"
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8. @rustyskillet9184
"The sad part is that the cult college lady is was genuinely
hopeful about Brian’s “idea” but not understanding that MAGA’s cult isn’t just
normal people but grifters and genuine bigots that follow the same lines like
Charlie Kirk, Steven Crowder and Tim pool with the same line of dialogue they
took with them and want their own cult. She really cares for the victims of
these cults but has to understand Trump doesn’t understand that his following
aren’t just victims but straight up criminals and actual bigots."
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9. @aguyinhisden
"I tried to have a conversation with him. What struck me; and
sure he was right he was fresh with it - that it seemed aimless. More like a
social movement than something concrete. But he hadn't really thought about
where he wanted to go with it. And it is clear that he couldn't move away from
his old stomping grounds and got sucked back into some form of MAGA - that
instead of diversifying what he consumed from the getgo to get a broader
perspective, he continued to slosh around in the same pond."
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10. @MsLynnabelle
"What you said about allowing yourself the space to learn
from others and heal when you left Calvinism hit the point for me, Angela. I
was all for Purple Revolution until I suggested, quietly, that he take a
different look at a few things and got immediately slammed. At that time, I
didn't realize he was so new out of MAGA. I'm past 40 years working on my
sobriety, and the first thing they tell you is to work on yourself before you
try to change anybody else. Brian came across to me as arrogant and "my
way or the highway". I can spot an abusive man a mile away and noped out
of the Purple fast. Personally, I can't bring myself yet to talk with MAGAs,
but will leave that to others and hope I can heal enough to do that one day."
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11. @Velveteen_Froggy
"Defense of human rights is literally the lowest bar. It's
the easiest one to clear. If they can't manage that, I don't trust them. Simple
as. Human rights are non-negotiable. The class struggle emerges out of the
human rights struggle. It's the recognition that everyone deserves to be
treated fairly, that we all speak from the same shared ground."
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12. @odstarmor557
"The moment I heard about this purple revolution sh-t* being
led by ex maga I knew it would be a dead end. These people aren't sorry for
what they did, they're sorry they have to suffer the consequences of being
stupid. They are trying HARD to distance themselves from maga because they know
it'll lead to social ostracizing when all this shit is over but they can't be
asked to even pretend to see people they use as scapegoats as equals.
"Policy comes later", give me a f--king* break."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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13. @jeanninepowers173
"I watched the purple revolution evolve, keeping an open
mind. I can't ignore the red flags about a newly ex-MAGA (Brian Murphy) who
wants to be the unquestioned leader of a new movement. How about joining the
resistance, already in progress?"
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Reply
14. @ParkrosePermaculture
"Yes. I think this is where I also began to become very
uncomfortable. I think there's a big difference between somebody who is
documenting their deconstruction process...and wanting to serve as a witness or
example to other people versus someone who wants to lead when they should be
learning."
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15. @jeanninepowers173
"@ParkrosePermaculture I wish Cult College had helped Brian
deconstruct privately instead of trotting him out there as the leader of a
revolution. This was foreseeable."
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16. @RachelA147
"Thank you for putting words to what I was thinking!!!
A person leaving a cult will be more likely to continue the
cult thinking in the next endeavor until they take the time to deconstruct."
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17. @RogueWalrus69
"He talked about people in his comments "forcing
policies on him". Nobody should be expecting him to suddenly change his
mind on economic policies, but the bare minimum required from him is to agree
on moral standards. If conservatives want to make it work, they have to agree
that genocide is bad and empathy is a virtue, otherwise they will never agree
that affordable healthcare is a human right, trans people have a right to
exist, gun bans would solve gun violence, immigrants are not the enemy, and
forcing a child to give birth is cruel. I remember the conservative positions I
held 10 years ago before I started deconstructing, and I still have a long way
to go. For someone who fell for the Maga cult, it will take much longer."
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18. @ShilohGraves69420
"Perfect is the enemy of good. If we only want perfect
allies, we've already lost."
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Reply
19. @BroccoliwGlasses
"I don't need a perfect ally, i need an ally who doesn't
view my existence and rights as optional policy they don't agree with, thanks"
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20. @sharonharris9782
"I don't need a perfect ally. However, I need one who sees
that all people are equal regardless of color, gender, sexual preference, etc.
Brian wasn't willing to acknowledge that."
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21. @gloriabaumstimler2729
"It’s called a paradigm change. We are definitely
experiencing one of those, walking towards equality, and now they are trying to
reverse us back into the patriarchy. Ex MAGA is a scary concept, where can we
go w/o respect or trust. Th this isn’t the first time why do you think they
want to make America great again? Because we were asking them to take a look at
their bigotry They are definitely going to have to change their television
channels"
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22. @shaunaurban6982
"I appreciate your take on this & agree. To expect ppl
to just embrace these ppl who say they're waking up w no proof they actually
have or awareness of the harm they've created, is naive &
inconsiderate. I'm happy ppl are
starting to see Dumpy for who he is, bt I don't trust anyone, until they've
shown that they have grown, make amends, etc. I really don't blame poc for
being skeptical & if they can't understand that, they haven't started the
process in good faith."
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23. @AvtirCaritas-q5z
"@ParkrosePermaculture
however short Brian's purple revolution was before it turned, it was
enough to reach my aunt. For that, I'm grateful. I was so brokenhearted. The
Covid shutdown led her down conspiracy trails and maga crap. It will take time
for her to go through everything, but she's open to talking and rethinking
things. I am so, so grateful for Knitting Cult Lady, Cult College, and you - I
was able to reach out bc of you guys."
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24. @hauntedhillcreating
"Yes AND I'm skeptical that people leaving maga is real
change. The confederates lost the Civil War, but they didn't change. They still
held their core racist beliefs, which is why their descendants were lynching
Black people in the south later. And 10 years ago, their descendants came out
of the woodwork to join maga as soon as a bully validated their racism and
other bigotry and they didn't have to hide it anymore. I don't believe their
hearts are changed. I believe their circumstances changed for the worse, and
now they're scrambling to seek help from the people they were only too happy to
oppress. They weren't brainwashed, they were validated. Now they have a taste
of what life has ALWAYS been like for people of color in America, and they
don't like what they supported being done to others being done to them. A real
apology isn't saying sorry. A real apology is a change in behavior, and a
change in opinion based on personal suffering alone is not that."
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25. @75allen
"I think Brian's mistake was to assume he was ready to
"lead" a new movement, and expected people who are in marginalized
groups to just take him at his word. This is assuming he was doing this in good
faith. If not, oh well he got busted pretty fast."
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26. @PseudonymousCorvid
"I was really disappointed in Cult college for both
clinging on to power and being completely unwilling to even validate why
marginalized groups (mainly POC) don't feel safe without assurances. She
basically played the victim and I stopped wasting my time in the comments when
I've got actual organizing to do rather than add to a lot of talk in the
comments and no motion in the streets."
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Reply
27. @PseudonymousCorvid
"My comments were around the difference between purity
tests and constructive criticism, and to stop acting persecuted for reasonable
concerns about the safety of black and brown ppl in this group for context."
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28. @joanmcmanus5320
"MAGA is a cult of the aggrieved. It seemed like Brian and Cult College then
turned their grievances toward us. That
turned me off and, like you, I moved along."
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29. @Andre-qo5ek
"The Purple Revolution folks want to pull the left towards
the right... that is the problem"
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30. @claraj.751
"Just another disappointment. should have listened to the
small voice that said wait. I have been in the process of deleting my comments
on both his and Cult College's site. If
she has had the experience of coming out of a cult, she should have known this
would happen. It takes years of work to get in out of your system."
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31. @RedTideRTS
"College made me wake up to my male whiteness at 40 years old. And yeah, deconstruction of my misogyny, bigotry, and racism was a wild ride.
If there are conservative white males reading this, and you’re exploring and questioning your current views. You must tell yourself that as you approach this, to be humble. Have an open heart, listening ears, and let yourself learn. There will be times you feel ashamed, afraid, and alone. You might feel deep anxiety. You might have a panic attack when new sh-t* comes to light. It’s a difficult, yet rewarding process.
Peace"
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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32. @mattwilson8298
"As a very weird gay man, I wish them well, but I'm not gonna
find common ground with folks who think I'm an abomination. Cishet gender
normative white folks, this one's on you."
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33. @jackturner7814
"I’m a white male leftist. Have been all my life. My mom was
a scientist, my dad participated in the civil rights marches of the 60’s. Do I really have to be considered misogynist
or racist just because of some modern white leftists? I want to help, but I
can’t if people have an inherent distrust of me."
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34.
"The help that is most valuable based on your demographics
and the climate right now, is working with other WM's."
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35. @autumnpme43
"This is a perfect example of why I follow you. This is a kind, compassionate, and nuanced take that I really appreciate. I was all in favor of the purple revolution in theory, and in some ways I still am. I want to be one of the people who helps folks coming out of the MAGA cult (I am a white person). But yeah, I agree that someone who is just coming out of a cult should not be the one to lead a new movement. I understand the intention behind wanting to do that, but...then stuff like this happens and it just goes to show why it often ends up in the toilet. I think you ask some really good questions in this video. Thanks for being here."
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36. @julesverne06
"He left a cult a few weeks ago and wanted to be the leader
of a new movement. Didn’t want to talk policy. Thought it was divisive.
Resorted verbally attacking with threats of violence when people pushed back.
I am a black man and I see that he doesn’t want unity. He wants us to give our bodies, our labor, our very spirit in order to achieve his goals. An America before Trump’s presidency where marginalized groups were still victimized, but he could afford his lifestyle.
There is no unity without accountability, acknowledgement and apologies."
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37. @bluemooninthedaylight8073
"As a white person, I was deeply concerned with the lack of
accepting any critique of this purple revolution, and found it discerning that
people of color were being ignored, along with lgbt people. Something felt
wrong about it, that bad actors could and would drive it forward. I found the
finger wagging at people of color downright cruel. To ask that of those who
have taken the greatest brunt of violence.
I think in time we will see true leaders stand up, and more
of a dialogue form; however, those who are quick to command others without
proving their own merit, need to take a step back."
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38. @bloodmoon0746
"Black man here, one of my concerns here is the motivation
behind this. Is this because maga wants to be better? Or are they just feeling
the heat. An alliance forged of selfish ends will end selfishly."
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39. @DarkElfofVulcan
"I mean, I was willing to see where it went so long as he and
cult college stopped and established that basic human rights for all would be
respected. If ex-maga folks can't do that much, I don't see where I've much
ground to walk with them. If saying "all those folks you've been
scapegoating, immigrants, trans folks, black and brown folks, other queer
folks, non-Christian folks, women/any folks with a uterus, they deserve full
bodily autonomy and all the rights you yourself have" is too much for
them, I don't see how there's much else to say. If they can't agree with that,
then they're deciding SOMEONE is subhuman to them, and there's no reason to put
up with that shit.
But, they chose to go "policy later!" and, uh, no.
Any minority person worth their sanity knows not to trust that line."
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40. @barbarafisher4915
"Human rights are non-negotiable. They are not policy, they
are human rights and they are non-negotiable."
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