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Two Videos Of Black Stand Up Comics Comparing The Marching Styles Of Historically Black Universities And Non-Historically Black University Bands (with information & comments)



Tiara, 
Jun 4, 2012
 ... Copyright belongs to Ricky Smiley and BET. I uploaded because the other versions of this video aren't really clear... **** Edited by Azizi Powell This pancocojams post showcases two videos of Black stand up comics comparing the ways that HBCU (Historically Black College and University) and PWI (predominately White institutions) bands march. This post includes some information about HBCU marching band styles and PWI marching band styles, particularly Corps style marching bands. Some comments from the discussion threads of these embedded videos are also included in this pancocojams post. The content of this post is presented for historical, informational, cultural, and entertainment purposes. All copyrights remain with their owners. Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube. -snip- Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/08/how-talking-out-side-of-your-neck-neck.html for a closely related pancocojams post entitled "What "Talking Out The Side Of Your Neck" Means & How "Neck" Became One Of The Most Popular HBCU Marching Band Arrangements."**** INFORMATION ABOUT HBCU MARCHING BAND STYLE from https://www.quora.com/How-are-the-HBCU-marching-bands-different-from-the-non-HBCU-marching-bands, Assistant Bot, Jul 13, 2024

"HBCU (Historically Black College and University) marching bands are distinctly different from non-HBCU marching bands in several key ways:

Musical Style and Performance: HBCU marching bands have a unique musical style that is heavily influenced by African-American musical traditions, such as jazz, rhythm and blues, and gospel. Their performances often feature complex rhythms, call-and-response patterns, and a high-energy, high-stepping marching style that is designed to engage the audience and showcase the band's skill and showmanship.

Cultural Significance: For many HBCUs, the marching band is an integral part of the school's cultural identity and a source of pride and community. These bands are often seen as ambassadors for the HBCU experience, and their performances are an important part of campus life and alumni engagement.

Instrumentation and Arrangements: HBCU marching bands tend to have a heavier emphasis on brass and percussion instruments, such as trumpets, trombones, and drum lines. Their musical arrangements are often more complex and feature intricate interplay between these sections.

Choreography and Showmanship: HBCU marching bands are known for their elaborate and visually-stunning choreography, which often includes formation changes, dances, and other theatrical elements designed to entertain the crowd.

Tradition and Rivalry: Many HBCU marching bands have long-standing traditions and rivalries, with bands from different schools competing for bragging rights and recognition. These rivalries are often a source of intense pride and competition within the HBCU community.

Overall, HBCU marching bands are a unique and vibrant part of the American musical landscape, reflecting the rich cultural heritage and traditions of the institutions they represent." -snip- Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HBCU_band for more information about the history of and past and present traditions of HBCU marching bands.

**** INFORMATION ABOUT PWI (PREDOMINATELY WHITE INSTITUTIONS) MARCHING BAND STYLES
From http://www.weinerelementary.org/marching-bands.html "Military bands were historically the first marching bands. The instruments in these bands usually consists of brass, woodwinds, and percussion. Military marching bands typically march in a forward direction with consistent straight lines. The music is performed at a constant tempo of 120–140 beats per minute to match the steady marching of the entire military group the band is playing with. The marching step size, or interval, is consistent, and usually at a 6 to 5 (six steps per five yards) or 8 to 5 (eight steps to five yards).

Unlike the military band style, drum corps style step sizes are constantly changing to accommodate the differing forms the band is creating on the field.  Unlike a military band's use of baton twirlers, Corps Style bands may include a "color guard" that spin flags, rifles, sabres—and may also incorporate dance. Other visual elements unique to the corps style is the usage of props, backdrops, and even costuming – with the purpose of adding more theatrical elements to the show. 

Traditional Style bands, also known as Show Bands, are marching bands geared primarily towards crowd entertainment and perform on football fields. Typically, they perform a routine before the game, another at halftime, and sometimes after the game as well. Competitive show bands perform only one show that is continually refined throughout a season, while bands that focus on entertainment rather than competition usually perform a unique show for each game." -snip- Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corps_style_band for history and more information about the military, corps, and show types of marching bands. Here's an excerpt from that page:

"Even within the show band style, there are significant variations. There tends to be a style more geared towards African American traditions, and can be observed in bands from schools such as Grambling State University, Texas Southern University, or the fictitious college from the film Drumline. This variation features more standing time, while band members dance and entertain the spectators. Often, musical elements from this variation of show band incorporate contemporary popular music and traditional rhythm and blues. Many of these bands maintain a twirling line, as well as a dance line instead of a color guard"...
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"Twirling lines" (majorettes with batons and/or flag twirlers) are very rarely a part of current HBCU marching bands.

**** COMMENTS FROM SHOWCASE VIDEO #1 'S DISCUSSION THREADThese comments are presented in relatively chronological order except for replies. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
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"he used to play for Tuskegee Marching Crimson Pipers for like a year (he's said...he played trumpet) and a member of KKPsi" -snip- KKPsi = national band fraternity (This fraternity also includes females.)
 ** Reply 3. @num1diva55, 2015
"+Spadesz93 He is actually is member of Omega Psi Phi fraternity Incorporated." ** Reply
"Jasmine Patterson ...and an honorary member of KKPsi. He's been a que for a while too"
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"Jasmine Patterson You can do both he is in both"
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"Spadesz93...not honorary KKPsi...he crabbed the band at Alabama State University in Montgomery his freshman year" -snip- "crabbed" - African American Vernacular English (?) reference for being a "crab" (a person who is in their first year in a group such as a band or a dance line)
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"Kevin Lawrence lol bruh as soon as that leg came up I was checking for that 90 and pointed toe"
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"Faith Cooper ngl I was like omg he’s actually marking time the right way"
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"Band recognize Band!! ♡♡"
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10. @boogieoogie358, 2021
"Yes I was in marching too it's good to know he know to start with left foot"
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Yup, you always start off on the left . Missed Mt band days
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"And he Had them legs up at 90 degrees "
** Reply 13. @reggiesmith6073, 2021
"And pointed that toe!"
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"True"
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"Ikr lol"
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"Facts"
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"We don’t give a damn about the game we just act a fool with the band "
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"Periodt"
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"You know what we say at HBCU'S... Halftime is Gametime!!!!"
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"Correct. Halftime is game time. Score could be 60-0 but if your band is trash you lose the game"
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 "he ain't lyin but good lord can the band play. Especially during the game always got us hype. It could be 4th quarter and we're down by 14 with 8 minutes left, best believe when the band starts it's game over we ain't stopping tell the cows come home." ** Reply
"You got that right I love it so much"
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"Black college marching band is very different from drum core style of marching band. The only thing that is the same is the name marching band and some instruments"
** Reply 31. @synnsayneenterprises, 2023
"Its all about the halftime show"
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"True dat!"
**SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - White Vs Black marching bands

@VibinWitTay, 2023 -snip- This is a YouTube video short (The brief video clips continuously loops to the beginning.)

**** COMMENTS FROM SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 DISCUSSION THREAD Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. 20231.@beyoutyisinthei5552
"He embodied every bit of the HBCU culture in one video"
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"Yessirah! Very good demo. I was a Black College band member and it was Showtime! Lots of hard work weekly and creativity to write the music and make it happen! I learned a lot about music and learned to appreciate the talent and gifted players n writers. It was more important to Play the Instrument then learning to dance to the arrangement. Gud ole days, bro! We came High Stepping, Cut Throat! Boom box Beast! Sho time Strong. "Who Dat!" Black HBCU Bands. And then the Majorettes would whip da thang! With the message of Will Kill and Don't Mine Dying Finish. Oops!"
** 3. @clarettabethea5919
"Respect"
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"As a white dude who grew up right next door to a black college lemme tell you the whole neighborhood VIBRATED. You could feel it in the air. I miss it "
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"Hbcu - where the band is the whole event gotta love ‘em"
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"You know we extra lol #loveit"
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"As a former of a HBCU marching band I 100% support this message we just be warming up then the beat drop "
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"Y'all are awesome! So much talent, creativity, and just damn FUN! .. Goes for basically all the black university marching bands but I remember seeing an HBCU band highlight on ESPN as a kid (my first exposure to it) n yea it was impressed, caprivated, enthralled, vibin, etc etc lol Oh, and the majorettes, as a 11-12 year old at the time, I felt many things "
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9. @urhyhnis"Sir!!! I'm going to need a longer version of this I need to see this band go off! Got me hyped"** Reply 9. @whenhelfrozeover
"I concur. I was waiting for this to get lit"
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"There is a longer version; it's a movie called Drumline."
** 11. @Joyeuxjoie
"The way the "white" conductor looked over when he heard the beginning of the black band; such apprehensiveness."
** 12. @pineappleginseng1557
"I'm half Asian/White, played trumpet, and ended up going to a predominately Black school. The marching band I was in was HBCU-inspired, and it was probably one of the most fun times I've ever had in my life. The music, the dancing, breakdowns, the training... everything about it... high school was so much fun because of it!"
 ** 13. @MelissaLong1979
"25 years later and I’m still missing marching band! Forever in my heart. ️ Clarinet & drum major. “Band Ten Hut”!!!! ️"
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"This is so accurate. As a black kid in a predominantly white marching band, I used to so look forward when we played the football team of a black marching band. We were playing “cheeseburger in paradise” meanwhile they were doing “Thriller” and splits at the 50 yard line Also our band was banned from playing the very song in this clip (black marching band part) because it got us too hype"
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"What song is that?"
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​ "@aurorakarabua-stysiak6233  we just got the music and its called neck"
** Reply 17. @jareemisthebest, 2024
"Every hbcu has an amazing arrangement on “neck” I love it."
 ** 18, @SouthernGal82
"As a marching band mom your "instruments" and reenactment are impeccable! Had me rolling as soon as I saw those pot lids and the upside down chair took me out! "
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"As a New Orleans native and USED TO observe parades YOU KNOW WHEN THAT BLACK BAND COMES THROUGH THEY ROCK THE WHOLE HOUSE AND YOU FEEL IT THROUGH YOUR GUTS"
** 2024
"U know the performance is about to be lit when home girl looked to the side and stood up to dance "
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"Lol, his "instruments" are killing me! The office chair as a tuba, lol!"
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"One time at a competition with 99% mostly white bands, a mostly black band performed and they were not only the best vibe musically but their color guard/dancers were INSANE. Couldn't stop watching"
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23. @faeray1016
"That slow start? That calm before the storm? The unbothered nonchalance? The way the majorette was sitting like she's at home on the couch with her favorite blanket? You already KNOW they're shutting it down."
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24. @msturner7621
"Facts"

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"I look forward to the Bayou Classic every year. It's kind of a tradition for us since we were old enough to know what it is. Grambling vs Southern at The Superdome. The Bands are the BEST part of game "
** 26. @janiceburns9218
"It’s the majorette coming out of her cape for me!"
** Reply 27. @Inappropriateradiotv
" I graduated from Bethune Cookman I appreciate this"
** Reply 28.@isouro"Bout to eat it up!"** Reply
"Exactly!! "
** 30. @CPT_Pepper
" That solid gold pleated dress took me OUT!!"
** Reply 31. @xkhalilthebossxx9986
"If ya know u know"
** 32. @aundreabatte3572
"Concepts % Genuine and The Creative Use Of Props Is Awarded Winning"
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