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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series on the Congo-Brazzaville's music group Extra Musica's 1997 mega-hit song "Etat Major".
This post showcases the official video of "Etat Major" and includes selected comments from that video's discussion thread.
Many of these comments focus on how some Africans who didn't speak Lingala- the language used in "Etat Major"- came up with their own words for that song or misheard those words as being from their own ethnic group's language. Additional examples document some other statements and questions that the commenters had or have about Extra Musica's song "Etat Major".
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/congo-brazzavilles-music-group-extra.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. Part I showcases that song's official YouTube video and provides some information about the beginning of the music group Extra Musica music group.
Part I also includes selected general comments about this group and the song "Etat Major" from the discusion thread of this YouTube video. Additional information about that group is found in some of those comments.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Exra Musica for their musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are associated with this record and video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Here's a link for an official YouTube video of a new song by Roga Roga & Extra Musica entitled "BOKOKO". That video was published on Sept. 24, 2021 by ROGA ROGA OFFICIEL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ZuDPc3J64&ab_channel=ROGAROGAOfficiel
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ge71uT6fJo&ab_channel=CyriaqueBassokaProductions
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. Unless otherwise noted, the translations that are given after the comments that aren't in English are from Google translate French to English.
Two of these comments were also included in Part I of this pancocojams series.
2018
1. Iheanyi Nwa Mma
"Please what are they saying in the music?"
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2. Nicholas Omolo, 2019
"@Iheanyi Nwa Mma most of us don't know but it doesn't really matter a lot, in any case we translated it into our own ways because the words often sound like our own words though the meaning might be different, we just enjoy the rhythm!
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3. lilian lilly
"We used to sing this in my mother tongue
which is luo from kenya. Something like "ngato kwalo makati na
wololo" lol meaning someone stole my bread lol and a whole bunch of
unrelated stuff in there hahaha"
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4. pacom20003, 2019
"Ha Ha that's funny cause the way I
remember the lyrics to this song was totally wrong and inappropriate. I thought
they were speaking in my native tongue but later realized they weren't ππ"
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5, It all about me, 2019
"Oh yeah we do too"
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6. Esther Awino, 2019
"I swear you've just made my day! hati
ng'ato okwalo makati naa wololol?? Haahahah"
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7. Namugenyi Alima, 2019
"Even us in uganda dear we could olso add
ours πππ"
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8. MarΓa Asumu, 2019
"We did the same in Equatorial Guinea. We
used to sing the songs that we did not understand in our mother tongue. Very
funny things comes from that hahahaha"
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9. GALLUS NJABNJEM AKA, 2019
"Same here in Cameroon. "Some pikin don broke ma head ohh"
Hahaha. U made my day"
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10. Lolamusic, 2019
" @pacom20003
this is hilarious ππ what they are actually sayings "tala batu
baza kotala wololo " in lingala it means " look the people are all looking at us "
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11.
"@Lolamusic
what does wololo mean in congo/lingala? Because in mg native kenyan language
it is an exclamation for grief when berieved or befallen by a sad event"
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12. Lolamusic, 2020
"@Mwana Falsafa
it's also an exclamation in lingala
it translates as "wow" or and is used in situations of shock
or surprise in English its amazing the similarities in our languages"
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13. Mwana Falsafa, 2020
" @Lolamusic
actually i meant we use it for shock or wow as you guys are using it.
The one we use for grief is the sound uuuuwi or Ooowee when someone dies,i
confused while typing."
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14. Mwana Falsafa, 2020
"@Lolamusic
and kindly what tribe are you? I'll try and research the resemblance
with my tribe here in Kenya."
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15. Lolamusic, 2020
"@Mwana Falsafa
I'm from the "luba " tribe in drc congo we are bantus and I believe their maybe connections please
let me know thanks ."
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16. lilian lilly, 2020
"The rest of the kids would be responding"ngato kwalo Makati na
yeeeee Makati na wololo'
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17. Gaudencia Wanga
"Wooow you are driving me crazy,if l
remember my sister she beat me with her palm, because l follow him to dance
sangulooo
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2019
18. Janet Shao
"Sangulo mamaaaπππ
imenikumbusha mbali sana wimbo huuu.Asante Mungu kwa kuniweka hai hadi Leo hiiπ"
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Google translate from Swahili to English:
"Sangulo mamaaaπππ has reminded me so much of this song. Thank God
for keeping me alive to this dayπ"
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19. talent chamzy
"Africa we one didnt know wat this song
ment back then and upto now i dont know but enough respect nice track and still
listening to it and even dancing like no man's busines lol"
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20. Mwihaki Debbie
"Amazing song.... Love it tho I can't
understand any single word in the entire song. Have danced myself silly."
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21. 93i, 2020
"The music is a language of itself. Just let it do the talking and you
just focus on the dancingπ
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πΈπ΅π―π"
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22. Joy Amoah
"Don’t understand a word! But this gets
me moving every time!
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2020
23. Kim Niuyai
"Think i listened for 1st in 1996 or1997,
25yrs later its still on fire n i don't understand the language...."
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24. 7vN21
"Can someone translate this for me, please? I think it’s
French from what I’m hearing but I’m not 100% sure."
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25.
"It's in lingala..."
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26. Raphy Johnny
"It's 100% lingala. No French word in it."
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27. Tesoboy Carlvin Etyang
"SANGULO OOH X3 SANGULO MAMA LIKE IT"
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28. Empress Nikki
"Wuolololoooooo.. That's all i
understand..Luo is intanasonol.
Gracias."
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29. Sandy Banks
"I swear i don't understand any word but this song gave us
the the real meaning of music in ugandaπΊπ¬"
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30. Mawan Muortat
"Lovely song, but I don't understand a word.
Those buffoons who head the AU should come up with a flag
for Africa and agree on one language that will unite us. Don't care if it's Hausa,
Lingala, Swahili, Zulu, Amahara or whatever African language. Just let them
choose one and some of us will start learning it tomorrow. It's about time."
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31. Lenny Kipngetich
"Just enjoying the rhythm... "Songuloo oooh Songuloo
mamaa". π€© Feb 2020"
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32.Revocatus Genes
"Music has no language"
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33. Revocatus Genes
"When I was 5 around 2000 I used to try singing this song and
I had my own lyrics I composed"
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34. Benson Christian
"Me too"
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35. Agaa Boneface
"Hahaha, you don't say bro! Same here"
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36. Dan Muchwanju
"I have my own lyrics too"
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36. deusdeo david
"I don't understand bt I can dance in my whole life"
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37. Lysias II
"I don't understand, but songs i grew up listening to. With π
From π³π¦"
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38, Mns Althard
"You know people from Kenya like such music but don't
understand a word in it."
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39. joseph otieno
"Oh my God! I still don't think if there
will ever be a generation that will have fun more than we did. I come from
Nyanza Kenya and the way we corrupted this song into our own Luo language..
"sama mama otedo gweno nyithindo chikore..sama mama otedo gweno nyithindo
chikore,, ng'ato ka ng'ato gi dise ni
mama tokna.." We didn't care what the song actually meant.. all we wanted
to do was dance and have fun. If only I could take back the hands of time!!"
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40. Jozz Power
"Zangul oh *"
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The asterisk was in the comment but no note was added to that comment. This commenter may have meant that this is what they sung or that “Zangul
oh” were the words that were Extra Musica actually sung in that song, or both.
In 2001, after some of the original members of that group left and formed a spin off group, some of the original members changed their name to Extra Musica Zangul. That group also recorded a song entitled "Zangul Zangul" in 2001. Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFu7iW4GgsY&ab_channel=PanAfricanMusic for a sound file of that record. Also, read my comment below about the word "zangul".
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41. Richy
"Man, this was the signature song to every first communions,
family gatherings and weddings I attended young in Senegal when I was 10. On a
dancΓ© Γ§a... Safulo oooh, Safulo Mama πΈπ³π€π½✅"
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42. Jordan Efexz
"The song was a hit in Nigeria around yr
2001. We love it despite not understanding what the song means."
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43. Josephine Owino
"Years later still singing my own lyricsπππlove
this song and danceππ"
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44. Nsubuga Stephen
"Best song ever for Extra musica, I can listen to this tune
again and again with getting tired of it regardless of I don't understand the
meaning of the song
πΊπ¬πΊπ¬πΊπ¬πΊπ¬πΊπ¬πΊπ¬"
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2021
45. Irene Tasha
"Am Kenyan, I don't I understand this words but you should
see me singing and dancing this song π ....I love lingala
music π"
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46. Alicia Keys
"I am a Zimbabwean and I don't
understand what they are saying but let's dance because I love
this song and the beat is the best"
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47. Ebunitata Meno
"Lol they aren't saying much, they are
just cheering their crew"
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48. edwin amalanda
"We have our versions of some of the
lyrics here in western Kenya e.g abamama batsia kitale πππ"
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49. Lydia Zulu
"I agree, I dont understand either, but
the guitar hmmmm wow"
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50. kennedy otieno
"Representing from Kenya.. If you heard
the lyrics as "obaya gi nyundo to amiso, mama chielo to baba uso"
welcome to the club"
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51. lina chester
"We didn't even language but we danced anyways, we didn't care."
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52. Miss Nyarie
"I grw up thinking this is a Zimbabwean song ππ❤"
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53. Kamogelo Mokhondo
"Ah rhi ah rhi ah rhiπΊπΊππit doesn't matter whether I understand what they're saying or not, but one language I understand is music papa!!! They string the guitar until it's stringless"
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54. Stiven Solano Fernandez
"Y en Barranquilla - Colombia se escucha como el bolo bolo
ajaja"
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Google translate from Spanish to English
"And in Barranquilla - Colombia it sounds like the bolo bolo
ajaja"
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55. Taurai Chiwanza
"Song played all over
Africa, and noone know lyrics, a very
good wedding songs"
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56. diana dee
"Every country had its own words ππππ°πͺπΊπ¬"
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57. Antony Mwaniki
"Who else grew up knowing this song is called
Sanguro"
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58. Sospeter Migera
"I'm not hear what they sung,but I like
this song, how they dance ,beat waooo I love the song."
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59. Musa Musa Kenya
"Growing up in late 90's i could hear
"sangulo mama" it was a hit in kenya by then, local music parties
couldnt go without this hit song.
The congolease music tops the African
continent."
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60. Dave
"I just searched for sangulo mama...its a Kenyan TBT thing π₯
π₯"
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61.Taurai Chiwanza
"Song played all over
Africa, and noone know lyrics, a very
good wedding songs"
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62. Ted Nikos
"I have no idea what they are saying but I agree with them. π₯π₯π₯π₯"
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I started searching online for the meaning of the word "Zangul" and found this reference on Google Search:
ReplyDelete"A Grammar of Nzadi [B865]: A Bantu Language of Democratic ...https://books.google.com › books
Thera Marie Crane, Larry M. Hyman, Simon Nsielanga Tukumu · 2011 · Language Arts & Disciplines
A Bantu Language of Democratic Republic of Congo Thera Marie Crane, ... to teach' o-lunguk to think, learn' o-zΔn 'to lack' o-zangul to lift up' "..." [end of quote]
Is "o-zangul" (or "zangulo" Lingala for "to lift up"?
While that book refers to Congo-Kinshasha, some people there also speak Lingala (as noted in this site: https://translatorswithoutborders.org/language-data-for-the-democratic-republic-of-congo-drc
" Language data for the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
The Democratic Republic of Congo is one of the most linguistically diverse countries in the world, with over 200 languages spoken in the country. While French is the official language and widely used in education and government, there are four national languages: Kikongo (Kituba), Lingala, Swahili, and Tshiluba."...