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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series on the Congo-Brazzaville's music group Extra Musica's 1997 mega-hit song "Etat Major".
This post showcases that song's official YouTube video and provides some information about the beginning of the music group Extra Musica music group.
Part I also includes selected general comments about this group and the song "Etat Major" from the discusion thread of this YouTube video. Additional information about that group is found in some of those comments.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/sangulo-mama-other-words-that-non.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. Part II showcases the official video of Extra Musica's hit song "Etat Major" and includes selected comments from that video's discussion thread. Many of these comments focus on how some Africans who didn't speak Lingala-the language used in "Etat Major"- came up with their own words for that song or misheard those words as being from their own ethnic group's language. Additional examples document some other statements and questions that the commenters had or have about Extra Musica's song "Etat Major".
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Exra Musica for their musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are associated with this record and video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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From https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extra_Musica
"Extra Musica is a Congolese music group .
[...].
At the end of the 1980s, most of the founders of Extra Musica met in choirs at the Sainte-Thérèse church in the Ouenzé Manzanza district in Brazzaville, but some have known each other since the early years of their childhood, such as Durell Loemba and Ramatoulaye. Ngolali who were classmates and sat on the same bench for most of their school years - Rogatien Ibambi dit Roga Roga, and Espérance Mouanda dit Espé Bass, also being classmates at another school.
The first two musicians to play music outside of the church were Quentin Moyascko who had a band on the street in the Talangai neighborhood, and Roga Roga who was a member of King Bongol's traditional-modern band Le Grand Mumboshi alongside members like Papy Kakol (future drummer of Wenge Musica Maison Mère), Julien Kibens and so on.
In 1992, Quentin Moyascko invited friends from the church Sylvain Mbon dit Oxygène, Espé Bass, Roga-Roga , Ramatoulaye, Christian Ambé, Guy Guy Fall, Kila Mbongo Mazikoli, as well as the semi-soloist Mbongou Saint Petro in the group of 'a company called Cogiex (the group was then called Cogiex Musica). They begin to perform in funerals and small bars, perform songs by Zaïko Langa Langa , Wenge Musica , Empire Bakuba and so on, but also repeat songs mainly composed by Quentin Moyascko who was the oldest of all, until the day they meet Ferreol Gassackys who becomes their manager and motivates them to form a more professional group. Quentin, Kila, Roga Roga, Espé Bass, Durell, Guy Guy Fall are the co-founders of Extra Musica.
The name Extra Musica comes from Roga Roga, due to the fact that they were hailed as extraordinary during the days they performed at the funeral.
In 1993, they began to prepare their first album, Les Nouveaux Missiles , which was released two years later.
[...]
Native country: Republic of Congo [Congo Brazzaville]
Musical genre Ndombolo
active years Since
1993"...
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I added the words "Congo Brazzaville" for to clarify that Extra Musica is from that nation and not from Congo-Kinshasha.
A somewhat detailed biography of this group can be found by searching "Frank Bessem's Musiques d' Afrique Extra Musica (Congo- Brazzaville)". (That site's link is long and the text for that page doesn't copy). Among the information given on that page is that, after years of success in their home country and throughout Africa, some members of the group left in 1998 because of financial and other problems. Some of those members formed a spin off music group called Extra Musica International. Another spin off was the formed from that group. The original members under guitarist Roga Roga's leadership changed the group's name to Extra Musica Zangul."...
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Here's a link for an official YouTube video of a new song by Roga Roga & Extra Musica entitled "BOKOKO". That video was published on Sept. 24, 2021 by ROGA ROGA OFFICIEL https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-ZuDPc3J64&ab_channel=ROGAROGAOfficiel
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Ge71uT6fJo&ab_channel=CyriaqueBassokaProductions
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. Unless otherwise noted, the translations that are given after the comments that aren't in English are from Google translate French to English.
2017
1. Rodrigue Ngalim
"This music is legend.....from generations to generations"
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2. mother Teresa
"Some of the strong music foundations will never be out of
place anywhere, big ups extra musica"
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2018
3. Panashe GM
"Before Nigerian domination Congo had the whole Africa and
beyond 🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾🙌🏾You
made your mark in history boys !!! Lamabibibi lamabobobo lol"
**
4. mashaka lonka
"This song (etat major)was
and still the best of all extra musica songs produced when they were together
as one group,but after splitting the band no one can do as good work as this"
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Here's some French definitions for état major from https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/french-word-fee785abd773ffcf5d63d8c9280bb62b099c3800.html
'English Translation : staff [noun]
More meanings for état major
general staff [noun]
88% of use
headquarter [noun]
8% of use
leadership [noun]
3% of use "
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Reply
5. Nicholas Omolo, 2019
"DRC still dominates for me"
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6. na trésor, 2021
"This is not DRC,it’s Republic of Congo (Congo Brazzaville )."
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7. HUJAMBO Korodani, 2019
" @Nicholas Omolo C'est le Nigéria qui domine parce qu'ils
chantent en anglais"
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"@Nicholas Omolo Nigeria dominates because they sing in
English"
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Reply
8. Nicholas Omolo, 2019
"@HUJAMBO
Korodani Chacun a ses goûts et je me
fiche de la langue tant que mon coeur aime une chanson. Personnellement, je
n'aime pas la musique nigériane"
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"@HUJAMBO Korodani Everyone has their tastes and I don't care about the language
as long as my heart loves a song. Personally, I don't like Nigerian music"
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9. Kinikini Osadjifo, 2019
"@HUJAMBO
Korodani je confirme ton assertion. La
musique congolaise restera toujours l'original autour de laquelle vont tourner
les autres genres. C'est le coeur battant de l'afrique."
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"HUJAMBO Korodani I confirm your assertion. Congolese music will always remain
the original around which other genres will revolve. It is the beating heart of
Africa."
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10. Raphy Johnny, 2020
"Nigeria has never dominated the musical scene. They music is
fake. Too much copying and pasting from the US."
**
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11. Arnold Show, 2020
"I'm sorry but South Africa is dominating"
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12. Chris Elimba, 2021
"Nigerian make music that hits and last for months only. In
Congo music is made to last for ever. That's the big difference."
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13. Louisiana Matos, 2021
"@Chris Elimba 👏🏾 and this when
we drop the mic and shut the lights. Nothing more to add"
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14. lizzy Clark, 2021
"@Raphy Johnny same with most of their movies."
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15. ToughBlackseed. 2021
"@Raphy Johnny : You
definitely don't know what you're talking about. As far as black music
is concerned, there's nothing left to copy from the Us. For one thing, Nigerian
Afrobeats (afo-pop and afro-fusion) genre is indigenous to Nigeria ; it's
unlike anything played in the united states.
You must have heard that two Nigerian artists won Grammy 11
months after you made this silly comment."
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"Why do people hate Nigerians 🤦"
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17. Raphy Johnny, 2021
"Please, be careful with your words when comparing Congolese
music with the Nigerian music. Congolese are the best ever."
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18. Raphy Johnny, 2021
"@ToughBlackseed Give me the name of just one Nigerian artist
who made Africa (and the world) dance for 30 years and I will name at least 5
Congolese who have done so. If you like challenge, then let's do this. One name
is all I asked for, and I am waiting."
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19. More Lyrics, 2021
"@Raphy Johnny Nigeria Never dominated the music
industry and yet top 5 most streamed artiste on apple music and Spotify are all
Nigerians. The first 3 artiste to sell out 02 London are Nigerians. Nigerian
musicians are the most recognized in the Africa and most recognized African
artistes in the world and unless you're living in caves, this shouldn't be news
to you. Nigerians own African music. There's no African country where Nigerian
artistes isn't dominating. Nigerian artistes are the most featured artiste in
Africa with collaboration spanning across America to the Caribbeans and Europe,
from trap to rnb to hip hop. They are also the richest and the most awarded
artiste in Africa. If there are 20 categories in African music awards Nigerians
bags 15
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20. Alexandra Montoya
"Me recuerda
a Barranquilla el ambiente que genera esta canción. 😊"
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Google translate Spanish to English
"The atmosphere that this song generates
reminds me of Barranquilla. 😊"
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2019
21. abdul kamara
"I've been enjoying this song since 1998,I still enjoyed
watching it in July 2019..❤❤"
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22. George Orido
"This must have been 1998.
I still remember my fubu track suit. I bought it for KES 1800 in 1999."
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FUBU for information about the 1990s African American owned clothing brand called "FUBU".
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23. edgarindainyapadi
"ainyapadi
1999 instead"
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24. New Begining
"@edgarindainyapadi 1998 was the making of this video. the song
came out in 1997 while Brazzaville was a war zone. They had to wait 1998 to get
visas to fly to Paris for this video shout. While the music and this video
expanded in 1999, the war was going at it's end with political negotiations.
This song brought a lot of confort in people's lives to get out of war traumas"
**
25. HERMANNO GODSON
"Once upon a time when the Congolese
music were in Africa's music throne. 😁😁. Then came the zouglou
and coupe decale from Ivory Coast 😃😃🙏"
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zouglou for information about Zouglou music genre.
Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coup%C3%A9-d%C3%A9cal%C3%A9 for information about Coupe Decale music genre.
Also, click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ndombolo for information about Ndombolo, this song's music genre.
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26. 93i, 2000
"Congolese music paved the way for
African music to be where it now is. Life is like a theatre, you come and do
your part and others do theirs.. They played their part in building the
foundation of African music👏🏽🎵💯💕"
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27. Danielvargas1907
"Wow this music is awesome i'm from
Colombia , this music is very important in my country in some cities cartagena
Barranquilla"
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28. peRrItosH
"I m sure Manu of
you wonders why this song is so popular
in Colombia particularly in Cartagena and Barranquilla the reason is we
share the same tropical and Caribbean rythms , the rythm champeta here in
Colombia was influenced by African roots , back in the 80 , Pico's owner ( a
big local amplifier sound system) used
to travel to France and some African countries where this music was
comercialized , to get the latest African music hits , they brought them back
and played in local events.
By the way there is a Spanish version of
this song called bololo , I m not sure they have rights to copy it , if you
want to give it try Google It , or search here in YouTube ..
Gracias por toda esa musical saludos desde Barranquilla"
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Google translate from Spanish to English:
"Thanks for all this music. Greetings from Barranquilla."
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2020
29. okechukwu livinus
"The man behind the guitar
🎸 deserved a crown his born legend with raw
talents. God bless Africa"
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30. Pankyes Dashan, 2021
"Lead Guitar: Roga Roga
Bass Guitar: Espe Bass
Rythym Guitar: Sonor Digital
Drums: Ramatoulaye
Lead Atalaku: Kila Mbongo
Greetings from Jos, Plateau state Nigeria 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬"
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31. Asmine Baby
"Makes me proud to be Congolese
Where all my Congolese at?😂😂❤️❤️❤️"
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32. qwaxerty
"Please, tell us what the song is about."
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33. simbarashe muchinani
"And as an african as well"
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34. Matt Seinzor
"@qwaxerty This song was Made After civilian congolese
War in 1998. It was a sort of
masterpiece done for carring back joy and lifetaste to us, those were suffering
during battles."
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35. MrKevin90
"While growing
up in Kenya 🇰🇪 this song was often played on the comedy show
Redykulass"
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36. Elijah Emmanuel
"This was the changing
of guards in Congo music styles, going from era of Soukous to Ndombolo. Nevertheless both eras
were good, but Soukous music was much more contagious, 2020 still going strong
This song gave me a lot of money back in days. I used to dance in a local liquor store and get presents for being the best
All the way from chalinze-Tanzania"
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37. 0nly. Bhadbby
"If Africa had an anthem"
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38. Wambui Wanyutu
"United States Of Africa National
Anthem..."
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39. Ultra Sonic
"Wicked tune ! I never stopped
dancing to this song back in Naija. The Congolese hits like this actually took
over Nigerian music space before my Naija brothers re-strategised and blasted
off into world music space. Very healthy competition all over . Proudly African
🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿🙏🏿"
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40. 93i, 2021
"At that time Nigerian artists were
flying to Congo to learn music... Congolese music is the foundation of African
music altogether"
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41. MASHAKA LONKA
"This song marked the highest achievement
of extra musica as a group!,to get separated was the law of nature!.
You can't put together the young
talented stars like these and expect unity among them. "
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42. Tim Sur
"In 2020 this song is in my every playlist, true African
rythm Roga Roga a living legend"
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43. Stephene Wankara
"One thing I know is that the gods of Music first
settled in Congo before spreading their wings to other parts of the world"
**
44. Nimrod Caro
"La costa de Colombia Barranquilla y cartagena
seguimos nuestra propia champeta gracias a ustedes 💪"
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Google translate from Spanish to English
"The coast of Colombia Barranquilla and Cartagena we continue our own champeta
thanks to you 💪"
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45. tendai mtizva
"First heard this hit around 1999 in
supermarket in rural Zimbabwe 🇿🇼 & everyone was dancing on
inside while shopping.
Now it's 2020 lockdown"
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46. Dyson Murwira
"This was the soundtrack for all parties
and weddings in Zimbabwe when we were growing up in the early 2000s."
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47. Bouillon de Culture
"Personne ne peut test les congolais niveau music. Au Congo
Brazza c'est extra Musica qui met tout le monde d'accord. Au Congo Kinshasa
c'est Koffi Olomide. Trop fière d'être congolaise. Vive les deux congos❤️😘❤️😘"
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Nobody can test the Congolese level music. In
Congo Brazza it's extra Musica that puts everyone in agreement. In Congo
Kinshasa it is Koffi Olomide. Too proud to be Congolese. Long live the two
congos❤️😘❤️😘
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2021
48. Exauce nkoukou
"Meilleur générique de l histoire de la
Rumba en Afrique
Best credits in the history of Rumba in
Africa"
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Reply
49. 93i
"1. État major
2. Loi
3. Solola bien
Les meilleurs de tout les temps 💯⚖️"
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"The best of all time 💯⚖️"
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50. chepkwony kiplangat ronal
"Our broadcasting radios in Kenya used to
play congo songs upto now! Esp during lunch hours, and night hours! Till today
they are playing congolese songs, kudos congo"
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51. Supra King
"Before the wizkid's, burns boys and davido's, we had kanda
bongo man, koffi olomide, and awilo longomba. These guy's were the superstars."
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52. Supra King
" @Matthew
Persinger these are og's"
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53. Mercy
"The problem is we don't bother to know who is who. For
instance neither Awilo, Koffi or anyone else you mentioned is on this
song. I am Nigerian and I find that
condescending. Our People will listen to Djouna Mumbafu 6600 volts, and say wow
Awillo is great. We have to understand that there are many great musicians out
of Congo, South Africa etc from which we have developed our sounds of Nigerian
music. We copied Soukous, Makossa etc and SA in Many of our beats etc. If we
want people to know our artists names, we might bother to know theirs. This is
group Extra Musica. It's on the title."
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54. Laura
"@Mercy facts!! 💀 as if there was only a
few countries bringing out music! 💀 hun, Africa is Africa.
The musical talent, is everywhere. And everyone has their flavour! This is
their flavour but at this time I guarantee there were superstars all over,
people just weren't listening to them like that or people just missed it coz
they aren't from that culture 🤷🏾♀️
but I'll give these man their flowers coz they are banging in their own right!"
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55. Nelly-Angel Uwimana
"They still are 🔥🔥"
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"@Mercy yes because awilo is most mentioned name in
Nigeria that why any makosa music they
listen they can't differentiate all na awilo"
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57. patrick wasike
"@Supra King
You mention others and fail to mention the ones on whose
page you are. Super funny"
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58. Supra King
"@patrick wasike I'm merely paying homage to other great
African artists besides extra musica."
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59. joji georige
"Very true..."
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60. Sharma Kumar
"U are right about all u are saying"
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61. Village Girl Rita
"The original superstars for sure 🙌"
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62. Hussein🤫🤫
"Without the internet or collaborating with American stars."
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63. james Claire
"Were??? They still are!"
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64. Adroa Patrick Lumumba
"@Mercy You are right my dear.Africans will know
everything about Nikki Minaj,Justin Beiber etc.but zero about their own superstars.For
example how many Nigerians know that their own Prince Nico Mbarga sold more
copies of a single ("Sweet Mother"13 million) than the Beatles?Until
we begin to appreciate our own we shall always be losers."
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65. Alicia Keys
"I am a Zimbabwean and I don't
understand what they are saying but let's dance because I love
this song and the beat is the best"
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66. Ebunitata Meno
"Lol they aren't saying much, they are
just cheering their crew"
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67. Sylver Chi
"This song was hit all over the continent 🇳🇬🇳🇬🇳🇬🔥🔥🔥🔥"
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68. Doudou Ignacio
"I don't know if the best ndombolo but surely top 5 an
amazing masterpiece... Quelle chanson.. Tout simplement parfaite."
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"What a song .. just perfect"
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69. Aisha Baidy
"Il y'a pas a dire .les congolais sont les meilleurs musiciens
,chanteurs et danseurs d Afrique .peut être même du monde entier .leurs musique
est irrésistible. On ne peut pas s empêcher de danser ça ni d aimer ça ..Bravo
les gars .j'ai déjà été au concert de extra musica a Paris en 2001 .c était
extraordinaire .une sénégalaise qui adore la musique congolaise .je veux aussi apprendre le lingala pour comprendre
les chansons .L Afrique entière dit merci au Congo"
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"There is no need to say. The Congolese are the best musicians, singers and
dancers of Africa. Perhaps even in the whole world. Their music is
irresistible. We can't help but dance that or love that .. Bravo guys. I
already went to the extra musica concert in Paris in 2001. C was extraordinary.
A Senegalese woman who loves Congolese music. I also want to learn Lingala to
understand the songs. The whole of Africa says thank you to Congo”
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70. Fabrice Izzo
"I miss this type of music.
Afrobeat we hear now is merely a combination of this genre,
coupe decale, dance hall and American music. Not much originality.
The Nigerian diaspora is the reason why Afrobeat is popular."
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71. Izdore Theo
"Alltime favourite from this crew mad respect"
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72. Obame Bassong
"The two Kongos in Africa are just the
best. They gave birth to so many music and movements such as Afro beat, coupe
decale...even in America its congolese ancestors aka the Bakongo who got
kidnapped who invented jazz rythm n blues and other music. KONGOLESE PEOPLE GOT
MUSIC IN THEIR DNA"
This concludes Part I of this pancocojams series.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
Here's a comment that I wrote in the comment section for Part II of this pancocojams post about the Congolese music group Extra Musica:
ReplyDelete"I started searching online for the meaning of the word "Zangul" and found this reference on Google Search:
"A Grammar of Nzadi [B865]: A Bantu Language of Democratic ...https://books.google.com › books
Thera Marie Crane, Larry M. Hyman, Simon Nsielanga Tukumu · 2011 · Language Arts & Disciplines
A Bantu Language of Democratic Republic of Congo Thera Marie Crane, ... to teach' o-lunguk to think, learn' o-zān 'to lack' o-zangul to lift up' "..." [end of quote]
Is "o-zangul" (or "zangulo" Lingala for "to lift up"?
While that book refers to Congo-Kinshasha, some people there also speak Lingala (as noted in this site: https://translatorswithoutborders.org/language-data-for-the-democratic-republic-of-congo-drc
" Language data for the Democratic Republic of Congo (DRC)
The Democratic Republic of Congo is one of the most linguistically diverse countries in the world, with over 200 languages spoken in the country. While French is the official language and widely used in education and government, there are four national languages: Kikongo (Kituba), Lingala, Swahili, and Tshiluba."...
I'm hoping that someone who knows Lingala would share what the word "Zangul" or "o-zangul" or "zangulo" means in that language.