Edited by Azizi Powell
Latest revision - January 2, 2023
This pancocojams post provides information about the early history of Historically Black Colleges And Universities' high step show style marching bands.
This post is divided into two sections: "Early Influences On High Step Marching Styles" and "William P. Foster's Influence On High Stepping Marching Styles".
The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all unknown and known Black musicians who contributed to the development of the high step style of marching bands. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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PART I
EARLY INFLUENCES ON HIGH STEPPING MARCHING STYLES
From http://www.folkstreams.net/context,249
A Brief History of African American Marching Bands
Excerpted from:
Lewis, William Dukes. Marching to the Beat of a Different Drum: Performance Traditions of Historically Black College and University Marching Bands. Thesis (M.A., Folklore) University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, 2003. ... Thesis is available at UNC-Chapel Hill Libraries
"The earliest marching bands in America were most likely the fifers, drummers, trumpeters, and pipers of Colonial-era militias. Like their European predecessors, these bands functioned to regulate daily life in military camps, give signals or pass orders in battle, and boost the morale of soldiers during wartime (White 1944: 9). Each company had at least one drummer and fifer (Southern 1983: 43). Historians Al Right and Stanley Newcomb maintain that when the Continental Congress drafted the bill forming the United States Marine Corps in 1775, the bill “also provided for a Marine Band consisting of one drum major, one fife major, and 32 drums and fifes” (1970: 65)...
[Editor of The Music Of Black Americans: A History Eileen] Southern argues that the numerous black musicians who composed the military bands of the early nineteenth century “undoubtedly acquired their training—as well as access to instruments—during the War of 1812” (1983: 67). To bolster her assertion, she refers to the myriad all-black brass bands that emerged soon after the war ended, especially in the cities of New Orleans, Philadelphia, and New York, and in sections of New England (1983: 67). One such band was led by Francis “Frank” Johnson, who Carolyn Bryant describes as “a talented Negro band leader and composer” whose band “performed as a military band, played concert engagements, and provided music at many fashionable balls” (1975: 10). Johnson was purportedly born in the West Indies around 1792 and migrated to the United States in 1809, where he settled in Philadelphia (Southern 1983: 108)....
By the time the Civil War had begun in 1861, new brass instruments were being used universally among the military bands that were beginning to thrive in America. Southern emphasizes that in the Union Army, “one of the first acts of the white commanding officers of Negro regiments was to procure instruments and music instructors for the formation of bands” (1983: 207). Through parades and other public performances, these bands helped recruit other black men to join the Union Army. According to Southern, by the war’s conclusion in 1865 “more than 185,000 black men had been inducted into the army as the ‘United States Colored Troops’” (1983: 205). Each of the black regiments had its own band (Southern 1983: 207)....
Many black regimental bands were disbanded soon after the Civil War. Although some of these ex-bandsmen certainly stayed on to form the first black units to be organized into the United States Regular Army, others attached themselves to civilian bands or toured with road shows (Southern 1983: 255). By the last quarter of the nineteenth century, marching bands had become thoroughly integrated into American society. Music historian William Schaefer affirms that during this time bands of well-trained ex-military musicians were found in almost every town and village in America. These bands were playing for political rallies, circuses, minstrel and medicine shows, carnivals, picnics, dances, athletic contests, reunions, seasonal parades, serenade fairs, and holiday gatherings. Schaefer maintains, “every military troop, quasimilitary drill team, volunteer fire squad, lodge, or social club had its auxiliary band to swell holiday pageantry” (1977: 8).
From about 1830 until 1900 minstrelsy reigned as one of the most popular forms of entertainment in the United States. First-rate bands frequently toured with minstrel troupes and vaudeville companies (Southern 1983: 255). “Although troupes composed of black entertainers date back to the 1840s,” argues Southern, “it was not until 1865 that the first permanent black minstrel troupes were formed” (1983: 229)... Among those that began their careers as minstrel performers were “‘Father of the Blues’ W.C. Handy, vaudevillian Tom Fletcher, musical comedy and ragtime composer Ernest Hogan, Gertrude ‘Ma’ Rainey, Bert Williams, and Bessie Smith” (Malone 1996: 54).
W.C. Handy joined the Mahara Minstrels as a cornetist in 1896, and in time he was appointed as the director of the troupe’s forty-two musicians. Minstrel shows were held in the evenings; therefore, troupes would bait the public’s interest in the afternoons by staging elaborate parades through the downtowns of the towns in which they were performing. The minstrel band strutted along and provided the procession with its spirited marching tunes (Handy 1947: 35-38)....
According to Jacqui Malone, “by the last decade of the nineteenth century there were approximately ten thousand bands in the United States, many of them marching bands” (1996: 137). This time period—between 1880 and 1910—is considered by many to be the “golden age of the brass band in America” (Schafer 1977: 2).
Due to the general popularity of brass bands, the widespread availability of black military-trained musicians, and an overabundance of cheap military wind instruments in the post-Civil War period, the marching band tradition also flourished in African American communities. Many African American benevolent societies and organizations formed bands to help raise money for their own causes....
The city of New Orleans became a hotbed of fine black brass bands during the post-Civil War period. Part of the reason these bands (among other African American art forms) proliferated in New Orleans is because of the city’s African American leadership....
In June 1916, Colonel William Hayward organized an all-black National Guard unit in New York. Hayward was serving as public service commissioner for New York City at the time and was familiar with the black leaders and communities of the city, especially the ever-growing Harlem district. Thus, the 15th Infantry Regiment (Colored) of the New York National Guard came into existence. Having “no rifles, ammunition, uniforms, armory to drill in, headquarters for recruitments, or troops,” Hayward began pursuing ways to recruit and raise funds to support his regiment (Badger 1995: 141). Biographer Reid Badger writes, “Colonel Hayward understood from the first that successful recruiting depended in large part on showmanship, and that meant parades and uniforms, and the stirring music of a military brass band” (1995: 142). Consequently, Hayward charged Lieutenant James Reese Europe, whom he knew had a reputation as one of the most talented dance orchestra leaders in New York, with the task of organizing an army band of the same caliber as his famed Clef Club and Temp Club groups (Badger 1995: 143; Southern 1983: 350).
Having recruited a large group of talented black bandsmen, including drum major/famed songwriter Noble Sissle, Lieutenant Europe and his 369th Infantry “Hellfighters” band gained tremendous fame throughout France for their syncopated rhythms and jazz-spirited versions of written standards; they were even invited to play in Paris at the Theatre des Champs-Elysees in 1918 (Malone 1996: 143). Jacqui Malone writes, “While white-American soldiers of World War I ardently strove to march like well-oiled war machines, like battle-ready robots, James Reese Europe’s black bandsmen of the 369th Regiment stepped to the beat of a different drummer” (1990: 59). Dance historians John Szwed and Morton Marks assert that the African American drill sergeants of World War I, such as Lt. Europe, introduced melody and foot-stomping syncopation into military cadence-counting, which permanently altered the standard European marching call that had existed for centuries (1988: 32)."...
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PART II
WILLIAM P. FOSTER'S INFLUENCE ON HIGH STEPPING MARCHING STYLES
Excerpt #1
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_P._Foster
"William Patrick Foster (August 25, 1919 – August 28, 2010), also known as The Law and The Maestro, was the director of the noted Florida A&M University Marching "100". He served as the band's director from 1946[1] to his retirement in 2001. His innovations revolutionized college marching band technique and the perceptions of the collegiate band. Foster was inducted into the Florida Artists Hall of Fame, the National Association for Distinguished Band Conductors Hall of Fame, the Florida Music Educators Association Hall of Fame and the Afro-American Hall of Fame among others. He also served as the president of the American Bandmasters Association and was appointed to the National Council on the Arts by President Bill Clinton. Foster wrote the book titled The Man Behind the Baton.[2]...
The Marching "100"
The original FAMU Band was organized in 1892 under the leadership of P.A. Van Weller. At that time, the school was still known as the State Normal and Industrial College for Colored Students. When Foster became the director of bands in 1946, the school was known as the Florida Agricultural and Mechanical College for Negroes.[4] Foster brought over 30 new techniques to the band, which have now become standard procedure for high school and college bands nationwide.[1][2]...
At FAMU, Foster began redefining band pageantry with a showy style—rapid tempos, high-stepping, dancing, etc., which was eschewed by some band directors who continued to cling to more staid military tradition and its emphasis on correct carriage and marching precision.
Foster has been credited with developing at least 30 new marching band techniques, including the double-time marching step of 240 steps per minute or four steps per second, and the triple-time marching step of 360 steps per minute, the death-slow cadence of 20 steps per minute or one step every three seconds, and memorization of all music played in stands, parades, pre-game and halftime shows."....
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Excerpt #2
From http://www.hbcusports.com/forums/threads/an-article-on-the-history-of-hbcu-marching-bands.24538/
An article on the history of HBCU marching bands
Discussion in 'The Band Board' started by PsychoJag, Dec 19, 2003.
(Excerpted from A Different Drummer, originally published in BVQ Magazine Winter 2000 issue.)
"Let's see, there were fans and two teams. The teams played two 45-minute halves. Must have been a break in there for halftime. But, hey, wait a minute. No bands! A black college game with no bands! How could that be? Every black college football fan knows you can't have a game without the bands. That's what the fans really come to see (sorry coaches!).
Indeed, to say that Biddle (Now J.C. Smith) and Livingstone quietly kicked off the rich history of black college football is an understatement in more ways than one. There were no marching bands high-steppin' and struttin' onto the field, but then they were absent at the other college football games of that era, too. In fact, very few schools had marching bands before the 1920s.
Imagine that. Back then, when you went to a football game, well, you went to a football game. Now, and really for the last 50 years or so, going to a black college football game means you get a nice dose of blocking and tackling displays, but it's that party and concert for "five quarters" that really keeps you near your seat - near it, but not always in it.
The formal term for what most contemporary marching bands do at halftime is "pageantry." More accurately, it is "showmanship," and no one can put on a show like a black college band, musical athletes marching to the beat of, Lord yes(!), a different, funkier drummer.
The bands' collective style evolved by happenstance at a Florida A&M University (FAMU) practice in 1946. "Our first dance routine, I don't know how or why it came about," says Dr. William Foster, FAMU's band director emeritus, widely acknowledged as the precipitator of black college band showmanship and author of "Band Pageantry, A Guide for the Marching Band."
It was to the tune of 'Alexander's Ragtime Band.' We were just doing steps and high-knee lifts, and people thought that was the greatest thing on earth. Later, I had a physical education teacher (Beverly Barber) to help with the choreography, putting the steps to music.
"I didn't know what I was doing, but it drew in the audience. The band members hadn't seen anything like it before and they thought highly of me, so they thought it was all right. And very shortly afterwards, other bands started doing it."
The elapsed time was more likely about as long as it took band directors to get their groups onto the nearest practice field.
Foster's break with tradition was a fanfare that trumpeted the changing of the guard in marching band style and forever changed the look, feel and emotion associated with halftime performances. The block, militaristic, corps style - borrrrrrring! - immediately became second fiddle to Foster's upbeat, high-energy shows and, by the '60s, bands such as Grambling, Southern and Tennessee State in addition to Florida A&M began to garner national attention....
Black historian Sterling Stuckey and music historians connect black college band showmanship to influences from 13th-century West Africa and the Egun masqueraders of the Yoruba tribe, who would play musical instruments and dance in funeral processions. Other historians point to black drill sergeants during World War I who introduced both melody and foot-stomping syncopation into their cadence counting, permanently altering the standard, Western marching call.
But let's go back to the spring of 1941 and the University of Kansas.
"I don't know what possessed me to go to the dean's office, but I was there and he asked me what I wanted to do," recalled FAMU's Foster, who graduated from Kansas that year with a music degree. "I told him I wanted to be a conductor, but he said, 'You should rethink that. There are no jobs for colored conductors.' And he was right! So I wanted to develop a band that would be better than any white band in the country."
That's a done deal today, though that notion is void where other black college bands are concerned, unless you're looking for an argument.
The process took Foster through Lincoln High School in Springfield, Mo., Fort Valley State and Tuskegee before he landed at FAMU in 1946 to being what would be a 52-year career. At FAMU, he began redefining band pageantry with a showy style - rapid tempos, high-stepping, dancing, etc., that was eschewed by some band directors who continued to cling to more staid military tradition and its emphasis on correct carriage and marching precision.
"Dr. Foster is a creator, an innovator and probably the most widely known and respected band director in the world," said Dr. John M. Long, chairman of the prestigious National Band Association Hall of Fame, upon Foster's induction in 1998.
"Bill Foster was the first director I saw do the fast step," says Dr. Isaac Greggs, director of Southern's "Human Jukebox." "I was in school the first time I saw it (in 1948) and I thought it was outstanding. It created great excitement. I had never seen anything like that. Some bands were playing symphonic numbers. Frank Greer at Tennessee State, that's what they'd do because it was a big thing to sound like a symphony, then go into a figuration. Most of the (band) books were coming out with the same things, but that fast-stepping, that was Bill Foster at Florida A&M."...
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Selected comments from that article (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)
1. PsychoJag, Dec 19, 2003
"Good Article and interesting read. LOL@Doc Greggs. I tell ya that man is funny as hell. Always a good interview with him. Doc Foster was/is the man. I remember Doc telling us about how they(SU) went to FAMU in 48 and got wiped out. He said FAMU came in doing that death march and then that rattler(fast march) kicking up so much dust that it settled on top of SU. He vowed if he ever became band director at SU that would never happen again. I think Pop Dupless is who used to be at JSU was in the band with Doc at the time told the same story.
Anyway that's some good history."
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2. Chi-Tone, Dec 21, 2003
"Wonderful article. It teaches us where we truly come from and also whose shoulders we stand on. Such people as Dr. Foster, Dr. Greggs and the late Conrad Hutchinson."
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3. C-Murder, Dec 22, 2003 #7
"i think this article should be give out to all band members as homework and then tested on the content...i say this because the most important thing in the world is history. without history you wouldn't know where you come from so ho do you know where you are going. it will also be good because it is good to know the pioneers of the things that we can directly relate to and to the things that we love.....i never knew the history of our style of marching and it kind of made me sit back and imagine what was going on when it all jumped off..........:) :) ...i'm feeling all warm inside:lmao: :lmao: :lmao: i want to say thanks to fam and su , because ya'll are our history.....much love"...
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Thursday, September 15, 2016
Five Videos Of HBCU Marching Bands Entering Stadiums
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post showcases five videos of HBCU (Historically Black Colleges & Universities) show style marching bands entering football stadiums. The video that is given as Example #1 features nine HBCU marching bands. Videos #2 - #5 feature additional HBCU marching bands.
The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the marching bands and their auxiliaries that are featured in this post. Thanks also to the all those involved with these bands. And thanks to the producers of these videos and the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEOS
Example #1: HBCU Bands Stadium Entrance Comparisons
keavon runnels, Published on Aug 15, 2015
Special Projects for my students to assist in explaining various styles of HBCU bands and traditions when entering stadiums. Pay close attention to the differences in arm movement, horn swing, knee lift style, even various ways (if any) head movement to show off plumes and helmets.
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Here are the featured bands in the order of their appearance in this video (with times, and marching band names that were shown in the on-screen script)
1. Southern University Human Jukebox (.001-4:35)
2. Morris Brown College Wolverine Band (4:36–7:05)
3. Texas Southern University Ocean Of Soul (7:06–10:38)
4. Bethune-Cookman (10:39-14:38)
5. South Carolina State University [?] (14:39-16:14)
Note: This university wasn't identified on-screen. The band's uniforms had the letters "SCSU".
6. Jackson State University Sonic Boom Of The South (16:15-19:44)
7. Florida A&M Marching Band (19:45-23:31)
8. Norfolk State University Spartan Legion (23:32-25:51)
9. Prairie View A&M State University Marching Storm (25:51-27:41)
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Example #2: Miles College- Tunnel into Legion Field: Labor Day Classic 2011
BandTube High Definition, Uploaded on Sep 5, 2011
Miles College's PMM enters Legion Field vs. Morehouse College
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Example #3: Alabama State Marching in Magic City Classic
Double Time Entertainment, Published on Oct 30, 2012
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Example #4: Alcorn vs MVSU 2013 ~ Stadium Entrance
Alcorn Sounds of Dyn-O-Mite, Published on Sep 17, 2013
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Alcorn State University (Mississippi) vs Mississippi Valley State University
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Grambling State University- Bayou Classic Battle of The Bands Entrance (2015)
Marvin Price Published on Nov 28, 2015
Bayou Classic Battle of The Bands 2015!
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This post showcases five videos of HBCU (Historically Black Colleges & Universities) show style marching bands entering football stadiums. The video that is given as Example #1 features nine HBCU marching bands. Videos #2 - #5 feature additional HBCU marching bands.
The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the marching bands and their auxiliaries that are featured in this post. Thanks also to the all those involved with these bands. And thanks to the producers of these videos and the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEOS
Example #1: HBCU Bands Stadium Entrance Comparisons
keavon runnels, Published on Aug 15, 2015
Special Projects for my students to assist in explaining various styles of HBCU bands and traditions when entering stadiums. Pay close attention to the differences in arm movement, horn swing, knee lift style, even various ways (if any) head movement to show off plumes and helmets.
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Here are the featured bands in the order of their appearance in this video (with times, and marching band names that were shown in the on-screen script)
1. Southern University Human Jukebox (.001-4:35)
2. Morris Brown College Wolverine Band (4:36–7:05)
3. Texas Southern University Ocean Of Soul (7:06–10:38)
4. Bethune-Cookman (10:39-14:38)
5. South Carolina State University [?] (14:39-16:14)
Note: This university wasn't identified on-screen. The band's uniforms had the letters "SCSU".
6. Jackson State University Sonic Boom Of The South (16:15-19:44)
7. Florida A&M Marching Band (19:45-23:31)
8. Norfolk State University Spartan Legion (23:32-25:51)
9. Prairie View A&M State University Marching Storm (25:51-27:41)
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Example #2: Miles College- Tunnel into Legion Field: Labor Day Classic 2011
BandTube High Definition, Uploaded on Sep 5, 2011
Miles College's PMM enters Legion Field vs. Morehouse College
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Example #3: Alabama State Marching in Magic City Classic
Double Time Entertainment, Published on Oct 30, 2012
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Example #4: Alcorn vs MVSU 2013 ~ Stadium Entrance
Alcorn Sounds of Dyn-O-Mite, Published on Sep 17, 2013
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Alcorn State University (Mississippi) vs Mississippi Valley State University
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Grambling State University- Bayou Classic Battle of The Bands Entrance (2015)
Marvin Price Published on Nov 28, 2015
Bayou Classic Battle of The Bands 2015!
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Saturday, July 16, 2016
Jackson State University J-Settes' "Get Ready" Routine
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post provides information about Jackson State University [Mississippi] J-Settes dance team and the J-Setting style of dance that that group created.
This post also showcases seven videos of the J-Settes' signature routine "Get Ready" from 2010 to January 2016. Selected comments from several of those video's discussion threads are also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Jackson State University's J-Settes. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT J-SETTING AND THE JACKSON STATE UNIVERSITY J-SETTES
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Setting
"The word J-Setting is an informal word or slang that means to dance like the legendary Prancing J-Settes, the female dance team of the Jackson State University's Sonic Boom of the South marching band.
J-Setting has evolved to also become the name of the style of dance and dance culture that is modeled after the dance formations, movements and dress style of the "Prancing J-Settes". It originated in the late 1970s from African-Americans in the Jackson, Mississippi, area of the United States.
This dance style is characterized by a lead and follow format where one dancer initiates a series of high-energy dance moves, and the other dancers join in the movement. J-Setting features specific dance steps based on Prancing J-Settes marching techniques including the “J-Sette Walk,” the “Salt and Pepper,” the “Strut,” and the “Tip Toe”. In particular, the “Salt and Pepper” is a type of prance step for which the Prancing J-Settes are named and known. It is a high-knee lift or “high step” style of marching. Alternating legs lift with a bent knee to bring the foot up to the height of the opposite knee before returning the foot to the ground.
The JSU Prancing J-Settes typically march and perform in rows organized by height. J-Setting dancers also typically perform in a line or in multiple lines. While performing, dancers may also change dance formation similar to the way that marching bands change formation during shows on football fields."...
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For more information about J-setting, click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/04/j-setting-jsus-prancing-j-settes-and.html for a previous pancocojams post entitled "J-Setting, JSU's Prancing J-Settes, And Black Gay J-Setters".
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Here's a description of "Salt and Pepper" which was posted in the comment thread for the YouTube video given as Example #7 below (in response to my question about the accuracy of this Wikipedia description.)
DW721, July 18, 2016
The salt and pepper is the march they do throughout most of this video. Specifically, when the music starts and the captain starts marching high and doing the cross movements with her arms. That is the salt and pepper."
Thanks DW721 for that clarification!
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SHOWCASE EXAMPLES
These examples are given in chronological order based on their publishing date on YouTube with the oldest dated example given first.
Example #1: J-Settes 2010 Homecoming Parade
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Oct 30, 2010
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
2010
1. blakpioneer
"Regardless of what people say about these girls, they are [profanity deleted] phenomenal!! I'm an alumnus of Alabama A&M University and I'm not ashamed to say that this school has us beat in EVERY category when it comes to a marching band!!!! Jackson State University is the trendsetter for the entire HBCU marching band world! These girls are invincible! They give you an untouchable performance from the time they prepare to enter the stadium, to the time they leave!!! MAD props! LOVE me some SONIC BOOM!!! "
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2. misspoohsamu
"That was so beautiful n shan is the first captain that i then seen of the jsettes that throw that many marches(dance) doing the parade. The other captains just dance when the band play. But i still love em all"
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3. jo662
"@chicagomarchingbands Until you do wat they do, you wont understand, they do A LOT in the parade and that takes a lot of stamina just to complete the parade."
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4. ChicagoMarchingBands
"@sevensjourney Not saying they should not be tired. Just don't show it! At least smile.....and only a few are doing that. that is what band camp is for to build up stamina......"
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5. jboyfreshVUU
"Those ripples came out of nowhere!! lol. love it! They have every right to be tired after marching that full parade. When I was in band our dancers never stopped, and were tired as hell near the end as well. The entire band was. Good job once again Settes!"
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6. tsu1208
"Those Ripples Was On Point!!!!!!!!"
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7.Poshboi Styles
What is the name of that beat that comes in @4:59
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7. YoungStunna9 [2011]
"@chfaithw6 It's called "Black and Blues" by Al jarreau"
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I think that this comment is in reply to the question given here as #6, but I'm not sure about that.
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2011
8. Kylen Parker
"Whjat is this song called?"
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9. descor1
"@Kylen901 get ready by the temptations"
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10. jstfantastic
"Oh luv dis. I like dat lil walk thing they do ^-^ like at 8:08 4 example."
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2012
11. 8thwonder0608
"Looking at this video again just makes me smile! Shanketta had a certain presence. She had the it factor. That's why the J-settes, under her leadership, shut the 2010-11 season DOWN. And that's why Shanketta is a LEGENDARY J-sette captain."
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Example #2: J-Settes 8/13/2011 (Get Ready)
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Aug 13, 2011
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
Jay White, 2015
"Where was this?
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Kiara Wilson, 2015
"Convention Center In Jackson" [Mississippi]
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Example #3: "Get Ready" Sonic Boom of the South Marching In to the Liberty Stadium (2014)
Otis Jefferson, Published on Sep 14, 2014
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
2015
Bryan Gaston
"Ladies and Gentlemen! The SONIC BOOM of the South! Now thats an entrance...."
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haweygs
"I love the way the J-Settes come in too. They don't come in there looking cutie tootie like some other band's majorettes. They come in dancing and picking their legs up MARCHING like the rest of the band, and the ramp kick is awesome!"
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nadiagaines
"What song is this"
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DJ Stevens
"Get Ready by the temptations"
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Example #4: 2015 JSU J-settes (Get Ready) Parade
MrUSMC1999, Published on Sep 13, 2015
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Example #5: JSettes 2015 SHC Parade (Get Ready)
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Sep 15, 2015
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Example #6: 2015 JSU J-settes Homecoming Parade (Get Ready)
MrUSMC1999, Published on Oct 25, 2015
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Here are selected comments from this video's discussion thread. These are all of the comments that have been posted to date in one sub-thread of that discussion. All of the comments are from October 2015. I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes only.
1. bobbyjay__
"their salt and pepper March is so old school. I'm living for it"
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2. Wardell Jefferson
"Really!!! What is old school for you."
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3.Wardell Jefferson
"LOOK YOU GUYS AGE IS REALLY SHOWING . BECAUSE ALL YOU WANT TO SEE IS FOR THEM TO KICK AN THROW THERE HAIR."
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marching17d3
"+Wardell Jefferson what are you saying? They been kicking and throwing their hair for 40 yrs lol. This is Get Ready. It hasn't changed since ole school Boom. Not much has changed with this unit. Some people just love to complain. Just support them old & new"
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5. dee hay
"+Wardell Jefferson Thanks Wardell .... Well I am Alumni J-Sette 88-92 so what he said it's true an I don't see him saying any about the captain. that's why we stop trying to help the ladies now . They only focusing on how high they can kick an trowing their hair. We was know for our Grace. Poised Beauty ."
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6. thegreatgatsby
"+dee hay Ole school can mean many different eras to different generations of kids. The current Jsettes consider "Ole school" to be the 1999-2002 era because of the most celebrated Jsette put 99 on the map. Not saying that the OldER School era isn't legendary. Like the 1990 Motown and classic performances."
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7. Shawn Tobias
"+Wardell Jefferson 80's definitely old school for me. I remember as a kid going to games back in 80-81. I remember that boom as well. Looks like these guys trying to take it back and march like you guys did back in the day. I heard they have a new band director."
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8. dee hay
"+marching17d3 I'm sorry an when did we do all that not when I was there .We gave you a production show, not all this bumping and grinding . You guys really need to stop talking like you know our History. He made a comment on the way they are doing S/P which is wrong. The balling of the fist look like they are going to fight someone. We stride on techniques and , making sure your Toes are pointed , let's look at how they stand at parade rest. But to you guys you see nothing wrong. An for the record know comment on the captain. Its the Settes as a whole".
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9. marching17d3
"+dee hay Sir or mam, I addressed him stating that all they were doing was swinging their hair & kicking, But the Get Ready routine for the jsettes has not changed in almost 40 yrs!! And if you were a Jsette during that timeframe, you should know that.
Are you truly upset because the kicks are actually higher now? Because the ole school jsettes did put on a production. But those kicks back then were at 9:00🕘"
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10. Wardell Jefferson
"Once gain if you don't know our history!!!! First GR was a moving formation second an on that 4th 8 it's a strut then kick an second much as they like grinding!!! They took that out an now they are bowing !!!! I will not address any no more!!! PS that's why the Director they have now because know want to be over Girl that didn't want to listen. Thee I Love"
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11. marching17d3
"+Wardell Jefferson they were "bowing" their heads on that part even in the 90's. They can't please everybody. There were some great things from the ole squads that the new school could learn from. But for the most part, the 80's and 90's routines were simple & not difficult to execute. In example, those 9 o'clock kicks 🕘"
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12. OneVoice41210 months ago
"+Wardell Jefferson You have to stick with the times. If the J-Settes were still doing the same type of field shoes and marching how they were back in the 80's.. no one in today's time would pay them any mind, because it was very simple. It would be a snooze fest. The J-Settes have become very complex, making very hard to execute field shows, innovative 8 counts, and marching routines over the years. Nothing will ever remain the same. Yes, I agree, the Salt & Pepper could look like it didn't back in '00 and earlier when Afrachanna was captain, however, it doesn't, it has evolved just like the rest of everything these ladies have done to still remain NUMBER ONE. Instead of complaining that they aren't like back in your days, just support. The current J-Settes themselves, when asked are said they love feedback from their big sisters, and learning things from former J-Settes, so I highly doubt they are a bunch of girls that don't want to listen. They aren't all about swinging their hair and high kicks, if they were, they'd be just like any other dance teams. The J-Settes are more than that and have been for decades. It has NOTHING to do with our age, because as a dancer I see and know a lot. I know dancing has evolved since the 70s and 80s and even 90s. So you can't expect a squad to look the same as they did over the last 40 years."
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13. marching17d3
"+OneVoice412 Right! If they were still doing it the 80's way, people would be screaming "OMG they are boring". It's called Evolving. Let evolution take its course..."
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14. dee hay
"+OneVoice412 Thank you for your feed back if only guys like you can responses that way.. Thee I Love"
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15. demetrius mccullough
"+Wardell Jefferson I wish you would just let things be. I understand that their not doing the salt n pepper the "old school" way, but that's your opinion. Dominique will be a great captain regardless."
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16. Wardell Jefferson
"OK THIS WILL BE THE LAST STATEMENT i WILL MAKE. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ONE PERSON READ WHAT I SAID . AN YOU RIGHT I DO HAVE A RIGHT I MARCHED WITH THE BEST 87-91 A STATEMENT WAS MADE ABOUT OLD SCHOOL, SO I ASK WHAT DO THEY CALL OLD SCHOOL. BECAUSE FROM MOST OF YOU GUYS THAT MAKES COMMENT CONSIDER THE 90'S OLD SCHOOL."
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The earliest YouTube video that I've found of Jackson State University Marching Band & the J-Sette is from 1978 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHM_Qu9rTSA. I've also found a few YouTube videos of Jackson State's Marching Band & the J-Settes from the late 1980s & 1990s, including this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX0vNEHkEbs "JSU - Halftime 1989 (SU Game)". Click 9:07-10:49 for a segment of the J-Settes dancing.
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Example #7: 2015-16 JSU J-settes (Get Ready) Governors Parade
MrUSMC1999 Published on Jan 12, 2016
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread
2016
OneVoice412
"Nothing warms my heart more than our beautiful black brothers and sisters entertaining the masses and seeing the smiles and movements from the crowd."
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Andrea Wilson
"I remember we did those same parade stands in my high school band"
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Tee Jack2000, January 2016
"Yall asses better march, kick, salt n peppa, all that good stuff! This what im talking about!"
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MakingThaMost, February 2016
I just flatlined seeing all them Nancy boots cross-marching at 0:17!!!!
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"Nancy boots" as a referent for the high white boots that the J-Settes wear was probably inspired by Nancy Sinatra's Grammy award winning 1966 song "These Boots Wear Made For Walking".
"Cross marching" is a referent for the way that the J-Settes cross their feet in front of each other while marching.
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BoxerBriefs4,April 2016
"This video is everything. They were so in-sync with each other:"
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This post provides information about Jackson State University [Mississippi] J-Settes dance team and the J-Setting style of dance that that group created.
This post also showcases seven videos of the J-Settes' signature routine "Get Ready" from 2010 to January 2016. Selected comments from several of those video's discussion threads are also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Jackson State University's J-Settes. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT J-SETTING AND THE JACKSON STATE UNIVERSITY J-SETTES
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J-Setting
"The word J-Setting is an informal word or slang that means to dance like the legendary Prancing J-Settes, the female dance team of the Jackson State University's Sonic Boom of the South marching band.
J-Setting has evolved to also become the name of the style of dance and dance culture that is modeled after the dance formations, movements and dress style of the "Prancing J-Settes". It originated in the late 1970s from African-Americans in the Jackson, Mississippi, area of the United States.
This dance style is characterized by a lead and follow format where one dancer initiates a series of high-energy dance moves, and the other dancers join in the movement. J-Setting features specific dance steps based on Prancing J-Settes marching techniques including the “J-Sette Walk,” the “Salt and Pepper,” the “Strut,” and the “Tip Toe”. In particular, the “Salt and Pepper” is a type of prance step for which the Prancing J-Settes are named and known. It is a high-knee lift or “high step” style of marching. Alternating legs lift with a bent knee to bring the foot up to the height of the opposite knee before returning the foot to the ground.
The JSU Prancing J-Settes typically march and perform in rows organized by height. J-Setting dancers also typically perform in a line or in multiple lines. While performing, dancers may also change dance formation similar to the way that marching bands change formation during shows on football fields."...
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For more information about J-setting, click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/04/j-setting-jsus-prancing-j-settes-and.html for a previous pancocojams post entitled "J-Setting, JSU's Prancing J-Settes, And Black Gay J-Setters".
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Here's a description of "Salt and Pepper" which was posted in the comment thread for the YouTube video given as Example #7 below (in response to my question about the accuracy of this Wikipedia description.)
DW721, July 18, 2016
The salt and pepper is the march they do throughout most of this video. Specifically, when the music starts and the captain starts marching high and doing the cross movements with her arms. That is the salt and pepper."
Thanks DW721 for that clarification!
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SHOWCASE EXAMPLES
These examples are given in chronological order based on their publishing date on YouTube with the oldest dated example given first.
Example #1: J-Settes 2010 Homecoming Parade
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Oct 30, 2010
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
2010
1. blakpioneer
"Regardless of what people say about these girls, they are [profanity deleted] phenomenal!! I'm an alumnus of Alabama A&M University and I'm not ashamed to say that this school has us beat in EVERY category when it comes to a marching band!!!! Jackson State University is the trendsetter for the entire HBCU marching band world! These girls are invincible! They give you an untouchable performance from the time they prepare to enter the stadium, to the time they leave!!! MAD props! LOVE me some SONIC BOOM!!! "
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2. misspoohsamu
"That was so beautiful n shan is the first captain that i then seen of the jsettes that throw that many marches(dance) doing the parade. The other captains just dance when the band play. But i still love em all"
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3. jo662
"@chicagomarchingbands Until you do wat they do, you wont understand, they do A LOT in the parade and that takes a lot of stamina just to complete the parade."
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4. ChicagoMarchingBands
"@sevensjourney Not saying they should not be tired. Just don't show it! At least smile.....and only a few are doing that. that is what band camp is for to build up stamina......"
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5. jboyfreshVUU
"Those ripples came out of nowhere!! lol. love it! They have every right to be tired after marching that full parade. When I was in band our dancers never stopped, and were tired as hell near the end as well. The entire band was. Good job once again Settes!"
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6. tsu1208
"Those Ripples Was On Point!!!!!!!!"
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7.Poshboi Styles
What is the name of that beat that comes in @4:59
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7. YoungStunna9 [2011]
"@chfaithw6 It's called "Black and Blues" by Al jarreau"
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I think that this comment is in reply to the question given here as #6, but I'm not sure about that.
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2011
8. Kylen Parker
"Whjat is this song called?"
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9. descor1
"@Kylen901 get ready by the temptations"
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10. jstfantastic
"Oh luv dis. I like dat lil walk thing they do ^-^ like at 8:08 4 example."
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2012
11. 8thwonder0608
"Looking at this video again just makes me smile! Shanketta had a certain presence. She had the it factor. That's why the J-settes, under her leadership, shut the 2010-11 season DOWN. And that's why Shanketta is a LEGENDARY J-sette captain."
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Example #2: J-Settes 8/13/2011 (Get Ready)
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Aug 13, 2011
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
Jay White, 2015
"Where was this?
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Kiara Wilson, 2015
"Convention Center In Jackson" [Mississippi]
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Example #3: "Get Ready" Sonic Boom of the South Marching In to the Liberty Stadium (2014)
Otis Jefferson, Published on Sep 14, 2014
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
2015
Bryan Gaston
"Ladies and Gentlemen! The SONIC BOOM of the South! Now thats an entrance...."
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haweygs
"I love the way the J-Settes come in too. They don't come in there looking cutie tootie like some other band's majorettes. They come in dancing and picking their legs up MARCHING like the rest of the band, and the ramp kick is awesome!"
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nadiagaines
"What song is this"
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DJ Stevens
"Get Ready by the temptations"
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Example #4: 2015 JSU J-settes (Get Ready) Parade
MrUSMC1999, Published on Sep 13, 2015
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Example #5: JSettes 2015 SHC Parade (Get Ready)
RealJSettes88threw99, Published on Sep 15, 2015
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Example #6: 2015 JSU J-settes Homecoming Parade (Get Ready)
MrUSMC1999, Published on Oct 25, 2015
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Here are selected comments from this video's discussion thread. These are all of the comments that have been posted to date in one sub-thread of that discussion. All of the comments are from October 2015. I've assigned numbers to these comments for referencing purposes only.
1. bobbyjay__
"their salt and pepper March is so old school. I'm living for it"
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2. Wardell Jefferson
"Really!!! What is old school for you."
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3.Wardell Jefferson
"LOOK YOU GUYS AGE IS REALLY SHOWING . BECAUSE ALL YOU WANT TO SEE IS FOR THEM TO KICK AN THROW THERE HAIR."
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marching17d3
"+Wardell Jefferson what are you saying? They been kicking and throwing their hair for 40 yrs lol. This is Get Ready. It hasn't changed since ole school Boom. Not much has changed with this unit. Some people just love to complain. Just support them old & new"
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5. dee hay
"+Wardell Jefferson Thanks Wardell .... Well I am Alumni J-Sette 88-92 so what he said it's true an I don't see him saying any about the captain. that's why we stop trying to help the ladies now . They only focusing on how high they can kick an trowing their hair. We was know for our Grace. Poised Beauty ."
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6. thegreatgatsby
"+dee hay Ole school can mean many different eras to different generations of kids. The current Jsettes consider "Ole school" to be the 1999-2002 era because of the most celebrated Jsette put 99 on the map. Not saying that the OldER School era isn't legendary. Like the 1990 Motown and classic performances."
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7. Shawn Tobias
"+Wardell Jefferson 80's definitely old school for me. I remember as a kid going to games back in 80-81. I remember that boom as well. Looks like these guys trying to take it back and march like you guys did back in the day. I heard they have a new band director."
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8. dee hay
"+marching17d3 I'm sorry an when did we do all that not when I was there .We gave you a production show, not all this bumping and grinding . You guys really need to stop talking like you know our History. He made a comment on the way they are doing S/P which is wrong. The balling of the fist look like they are going to fight someone. We stride on techniques and , making sure your Toes are pointed , let's look at how they stand at parade rest. But to you guys you see nothing wrong. An for the record know comment on the captain. Its the Settes as a whole".
**
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9. marching17d3
"+dee hay Sir or mam, I addressed him stating that all they were doing was swinging their hair & kicking, But the Get Ready routine for the jsettes has not changed in almost 40 yrs!! And if you were a Jsette during that timeframe, you should know that.
Are you truly upset because the kicks are actually higher now? Because the ole school jsettes did put on a production. But those kicks back then were at 9:00🕘"
**
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10. Wardell Jefferson
"Once gain if you don't know our history!!!! First GR was a moving formation second an on that 4th 8 it's a strut then kick an second much as they like grinding!!! They took that out an now they are bowing !!!! I will not address any no more!!! PS that's why the Director they have now because know want to be over Girl that didn't want to listen. Thee I Love"
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11. marching17d3
"+Wardell Jefferson they were "bowing" their heads on that part even in the 90's. They can't please everybody. There were some great things from the ole squads that the new school could learn from. But for the most part, the 80's and 90's routines were simple & not difficult to execute. In example, those 9 o'clock kicks 🕘"
**
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12. OneVoice41210 months ago
"+Wardell Jefferson You have to stick with the times. If the J-Settes were still doing the same type of field shoes and marching how they were back in the 80's.. no one in today's time would pay them any mind, because it was very simple. It would be a snooze fest. The J-Settes have become very complex, making very hard to execute field shows, innovative 8 counts, and marching routines over the years. Nothing will ever remain the same. Yes, I agree, the Salt & Pepper could look like it didn't back in '00 and earlier when Afrachanna was captain, however, it doesn't, it has evolved just like the rest of everything these ladies have done to still remain NUMBER ONE. Instead of complaining that they aren't like back in your days, just support. The current J-Settes themselves, when asked are said they love feedback from their big sisters, and learning things from former J-Settes, so I highly doubt they are a bunch of girls that don't want to listen. They aren't all about swinging their hair and high kicks, if they were, they'd be just like any other dance teams. The J-Settes are more than that and have been for decades. It has NOTHING to do with our age, because as a dancer I see and know a lot. I know dancing has evolved since the 70s and 80s and even 90s. So you can't expect a squad to look the same as they did over the last 40 years."
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13. marching17d3
"+OneVoice412 Right! If they were still doing it the 80's way, people would be screaming "OMG they are boring". It's called Evolving. Let evolution take its course..."
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14. dee hay
"+OneVoice412 Thank you for your feed back if only guys like you can responses that way.. Thee I Love"
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15. demetrius mccullough
"+Wardell Jefferson I wish you would just let things be. I understand that their not doing the salt n pepper the "old school" way, but that's your opinion. Dominique will be a great captain regardless."
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16. Wardell Jefferson
"OK THIS WILL BE THE LAST STATEMENT i WILL MAKE. I NEVER SAID ANYTHING ABOUT ONE PERSON READ WHAT I SAID . AN YOU RIGHT I DO HAVE A RIGHT I MARCHED WITH THE BEST 87-91 A STATEMENT WAS MADE ABOUT OLD SCHOOL, SO I ASK WHAT DO THEY CALL OLD SCHOOL. BECAUSE FROM MOST OF YOU GUYS THAT MAKES COMMENT CONSIDER THE 90'S OLD SCHOOL."
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The earliest YouTube video that I've found of Jackson State University Marching Band & the J-Sette is from 1978 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JHM_Qu9rTSA. I've also found a few YouTube videos of Jackson State's Marching Band & the J-Settes from the late 1980s & 1990s, including this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QX0vNEHkEbs "JSU - Halftime 1989 (SU Game)". Click 9:07-10:49 for a segment of the J-Settes dancing.
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Example #7: 2015-16 JSU J-settes (Get Ready) Governors Parade
MrUSMC1999 Published on Jan 12, 2016
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread
2016
OneVoice412
"Nothing warms my heart more than our beautiful black brothers and sisters entertaining the masses and seeing the smiles and movements from the crowd."
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Andrea Wilson
"I remember we did those same parade stands in my high school band"
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Tee Jack2000, January 2016
"Yall asses better march, kick, salt n peppa, all that good stuff! This what im talking about!"
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MakingThaMost, February 2016
I just flatlined seeing all them Nancy boots cross-marching at 0:17!!!!
-snip-
"Nancy boots" as a referent for the high white boots that the J-Settes wear was probably inspired by Nancy Sinatra's Grammy award winning 1966 song "These Boots Wear Made For Walking".
"Cross marching" is a referent for the way that the J-Settes cross their feet in front of each other while marching.
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BoxerBriefs4,April 2016
"This video is everything. They were so in-sync with each other:"
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