Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post provides a definition for "internet troll" and provides the entire sub-thread to date from a discussion thread for the official 2019 Nigerian Afro-Beats music video for Tiwa Savage's song "4-99". in that sub-thread a number of people responded to comments from a person who was eventually labeled an internet troll.
The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural purposes.
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Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This sub-thread is from Nigerian Afro-Beats singer Tiwa Savage's official video of her song "44-99".
After a number of comments, one person in that sub-thread was referred to as a troll. The comments from that person no longer appear in that sub-thread (as of Feb. 25, 2022 when I retrieved these comments). However, the content of some of those comments can be deduced from other commenter's replies.
It's likely that the publisher of that video deleted those comments instead of those comments being self-deleted by that "troll". From replies to one or to multiple comments from that troll, it appears that that commenter identified himself as male who was Ghanaian, and/or an African American. Eventually, some commenters wondered if that person was actually neither Ghanaian nor African American, but instead was a White American or a White European.
I'm interested in documenting how commenters in that sub-thread reacted to a person who was eventually labeled a troll. I'm also interested in documenting what those commenters thought about AfroBeats music and Nigeria's role in contemporary African music. I also am interested in commenters' allusions or direct statements about the cultural rivalry between the West African nations of Ghana and Nigeria, and/or attitudes & opinions about African Americans and Africans; Africa, America, and Europe; and White people.
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DEFINITION FOR "INTERNET TROLL"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll
"In internet slang, a troll is a person who posts inflammatory, insincere, digressive,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as social media (Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc.), a newsgroup, forum, chat room, online video game, or blog), with the intent of provoking readers into displaying emotional responses,[2] or manipulating others' perception. This is typically for the troll's amusement, or to achieve a specific result such as disrupting a rival's online activities or manipulating a political process. Even so, Internet trolling can also be defined as purposefully causing confusion or harm to other users online, for no reason at all.[3]"...
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COMMENTS FROM A SUB-THREAD IN A 2019 AFRO-BEATS MUSIC VIDEO
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOoNEi8BlgM Tiwa Savage - "49-99" (Official Video), published by Tiwa Savage, Sep 5, 2019
This is the complete sub-thread as of Feb. 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM ET.
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
WARNING: Some of these comments and other information included in this section include offensive words in the Yoruba language of Nigeria, and other socially inappropriate and sexually explicit language/references.
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1. Kester E
"It is an undeniable fact now that Nigeria is currently the music headquarters of the world. They make Afro Beat so pleasing to the ear and the videos are so colorful."
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There are 1.87K likes and 66 replies to this comment as of Feb. 25, 2022 at 8:49 AM ET
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2. Ire
"That's is the real tea sis"
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3. Ayo Bello
"Louder"
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4. Kadir Acar
"Perfect said!!!!!"
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5. Nicole Carter
"❤️π"
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6. Naomi everchanging
"Yeass oh"
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7. Major old franklin
"We are leading in Afro beat,in Africa,proud to be a naija"
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8. N A
"Nigeria has been leading for a long timeπ"
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9. Kwesi Borsah
"I'm Ghanaian, but even I agree with that. 9ja is killin dem sha."
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10. therealone Clear
"Yess ghana tooπ"
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11. Major old franklin
"When you talk about Afro Beat,naija is still leading.if you love how Afro beat is growing in west Africa,hit the Like buttons"
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12. Bryan Irving Livingstone II
"They be magic right there"
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13. Bidemi Akinade
"@Erich Weiler Your opinion bro. Many don't feel the same."
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14. Prem's Writing
"@Erich Weiler you can say we are not on other levels but to say we will never be you're just making a declaration you don't have the authority to make"
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15. TMD-W
"The whole world??ππππ r u high?"
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16. James Nwanazia
"@Erich Weiler + Spoken like a rotten belly Ghanaian that you are. You are a very sneaky person with all those back-handed compliments you threw the Nigerians way but your angles gave you away to the savvy minds here on this thread. Ghanaians like you will never stop making themselves look like jack-asses over matters concerning Nigeria/Nigerians. I know your diatribe here about Nigerians and their music made you feel better about yourself. Jesus like the Ghanaians in Ghana fare any better than Nigerians with their own internal corrupt politics and politicians/ their deadly Sakawa fraud squads laced with VOODOO. You trying to pass up Ghana like first world countries as one of those found in the West. You are really hatefully guy. I can tell from your comments here."
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17. James Nwanazia
"@Erich Weiler + American with a lopsided opinion/selected amnesia .........You said that Nigerians are world-famous for scamming but selectively forgot to mention the horrible Ghanaian Sakawa internet fraud laced with Voodoo recognized all the world. You don't fool me or any critical thinking person here with your arguments/rebuttals. Yes, some Nigerians are really bad so also are Ghanaians. I respect people who are intellectually honest. Credible you are not. You clearly have an agenda and I have no respect for you. You can be a potty mouth as much as you want here towards me, I give no hen's butt. When ignorant people lose arguments they tend to go the route you just went by name-calling. I bleed for Black and brown people of the motherland for hateful people like you because you are the problem and not the solution for unified Africa. Just have a once-over at your obtuse/asinine comments here and you will be convinced of how retarded you sound."
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18. James Nwanazia
"@Erich Weiler + First of all it is not 401 or 409. It is 419. That right there gave you away. You are the one who has no inclination what you are talking about. Newsflash.......there are confidence men everywhere even in the great shining city on the hill dobbed America where the word confidence and confidence men and women were coined and abound. I lived in your country for a long time. Greensboro in North Carolina( TAR HEELS STATE°) to be exact so take your hoodwinking somewhere else and use it on somebody else. I am not buying your snake-oil. Mr snake oil salesman. This my thing, how can you judge someone when your house is also filthy. Shall I go on with the Ponzi scheme and colossal frauds going on in your country cuz I can go there if you set me off? Talking about being jet-set........Dude, you have no clue about me. So just stop it."
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"419" is a telephone code for the state of Ohio in the United States.
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19. Aries 0412
"Where ypu think it comes from...i think we as black americans forgetting where we get all our sh&t* from
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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20. Deborah Arugu
"Erich Weiler One thing is certain by your comment, you embody the stupidity meant for millions."
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21. James Nwanazia
"@Deborah Arugu + Pay the idiot no mind with his bellicosity. Ghanaians fronting as Americans will always show their true colour. They will say anything asinine to make themselves sound intelligible and relevant. What a bunch of losers."
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22. ross meroe
"@N A For real. It's like the dude just got into Afrobeats.π"
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23. ross meroe
"@Erich Weiler You are a lying Ghanaian full of hate. Why nor go tackle the mass poverty in Ghana instead of seeking to tarnish Nigeria online? You have gold, cocoa, oil and gas etc, with a tiny population of 25 milion. You should be like Dubai, yet you have a lower GDP per capita than Nigeria with its 200 million people. Shameless."
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24. Niger Delta Mirror TV
"James Nwanazia Don't mind that fool...The US is No. 1 on the list of countries with the highest number of cybercrime, Nigeria is not even on the top 10 but they all shout about Nigeria out of envy...jealousy will kill all these people. ..oloriburuku people!"
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Here's the definition for the Yoruba (Nigerian language) word "oloburuku":
From https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=oloriburuku
"oloriburuku
Direct translation to bastard head meaning someone stupid or crazy with mad thoughts don't use it around Nigerian parent unless u want to die
Omo oloriburuku omo aje ole
by Swaggadon July 31, 2017
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"Omo" means "child" in Yoruba and (according to Google translate from Yoruba to English) "omo aje ole" means "the thief".
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25. Harris Re-nee
"@Erich Weiler Only the OPPRESSOR would compare an AFRICAN country to two WHITE countries. Smhπ Get lost!ππΏ
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26. Harris Re-nee
"@Erich Weiler WHOSE charts are you referencing?! That of the COLONIZERS?! You're so deluded by white privilege that you don't even realize that you're exposing yourself! You people are beyond ANNOYING!π£"
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27. Harris Re-nee
"I'm a Black American dancer, and I agreeπ―. All of my latest choreography pieces have been to Nigerian music, unintentionally!π―π³ They KILLIN the game right now musically.ππΎππΏπ³π¬π️π️πΆ"
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28. Prem's Writing
"@Erich Weiler I think you're struggling with comprehension both of your own words and of others'. I said you can have all your opinions about anything really but when you use the word NEVER you're making a declaration...in vain that is because your don't have that say."
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29. O
"@Erich Weiler And you are a FOOL."
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30. Melanin Africa
"Kester E True. Nigerians are on top"
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31. Melanin Africa
"Erich Weiler NIGERIANS ARE TOP. Simple"
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32. Melanin Africa
"Erich Weiler well I don’t remember talking about football and it ain’t got nothing to do with football. π"
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33. Melanin Africa
"Erich Weiler but why are you bringing football to this? I never specify. You are saying you find it odd I don’t know that. I ain’t even a fan of football. Stay in your lane and don’t comment on my name no moreπππ"
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34. Melanin Africa
"Erich Weiler no one even asked you. Abeg move yourself"
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35. Melanin Africa
"Erich Weiler I said stay in your lane and don’t comment on my name simple. I never said I own YouTube. Your getting blocked nusisanceπ"
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36. Prem's Writing
"@Erich Weiler oh ok. You're just trolling. Gotcha"
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37. Olubusola Legunsen
"@Erich Weiler typical overbloated proud and unrepentant oink oink. America and europe is not our would.
We are not together with you in your world.
Our world is black nation.
So we rock in our world.
Your world is skewed to favour you and no one can compete fairly there.
So please just dont comment on what you do t understand.
European standard is good for you but bad for us.
We were better off before yall came.to mess us up
So pls shut up
Lets rock our world.
You are welcome to enjoy our music but you have no place to judge or comment.
Especially as you are lacking in talent"
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38. Olubusola Legunsen
"@Erich Weiler your ignorance grows by the minute.
First of all, Americans are are Europeans. The name america is new and it contains english irish spanish italians russian german etc people. All europe
Second, britain did more slavery and colonization than the french. Britain has a lions share in west and central africa.
Your ignorance is alarming and all you know is what your demonic racist colonialist slaving fathers told you.
I feel really sorry for you.
You should do us all a favour and dig a hole and stay quiet in it.
Your comments are full of that same pompous white supremacy sh&t* that is very much still around.
We americans dont colonize. So how did you get the landπ€·πΎ♂️.
You killed and took it didnt you. The people that originally inhabited the land are but a minority now isn't it.
Just stick to hip hop and european music.
Leave us alone.
Must you bring your demonic selves into everything.
One day.
Yah will bring justice.
For now keep spewing your verbal diarrhoea."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.
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39. Olubusola Legunsen
"@Erich Weiler you are no hero. We will never accept you.
This is not hate.
Its reality.
Just stop trying to know what you dont know.
Enjoy the music but dont give opinion.
We dont interfere in your european made up lies called history.
We let you have it.
Let us have ours which is unique to us.
Yall pretty much stole everything else.
So you should be satisfied with that.
Leave afrobeat for us in africa.
Please"
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40. Priceeless Love
" @therealone Clear Ghana is trying but naija is leading, followed by south Africa, Ghana 3rd in line."
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41. OKA
"@Erich Weiler - lol. Your statement is baffling and grossly incorrect!!
You do know that out of the 16 countries in West Africa, only Ghana and Nigeria are widely recognised as the pioneers of AFROBEATS? It originated somewhere in Ghana in the 1920s, but it was the great Fela Kuti who revolutionalised and popularized it in Nigeria from the 1960s onwards, and majority of the AFROBEATS and Artists like (Wizkid, Davido, Burna boy, Lagbaja, Jese Jags etc) all model thier songs and tune off of Fela Kutis' and the resultant effect of that NOW is that Nigeria is "internationally" known as the AFROBEATS country.
(Reggae=Jamaica & Afrobeats=Nigeria)
..............Thats Facts !!.........."
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42. James Nwanazia
"oka + Another sneaky Ghanaian is in the comment thread.......With that tired narrative gleaned From Ghanaian written Wikipedia that Afrobeats was founded in Ghana. Some Ghanaians are quite a miserable bunch. I don’t get this Nigerians.....Maybe you can answer this query for me my good people of Nigeria. Why do Ghanaians always want to ride your coattails and at the time derogate/depreciate/tarnish your image. I can’t seem to wrap my mind around that. I am supposing that Ghanaians want to be you so bad. Please can somebody tell me something.....anything about this disposition of Ghanaians towards Nigerians. I extremely abhor them."
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43. Prem's Writing
"@Erich Weiler dude you're so lame. You're saying rubbish cause you think it makes you controversial. Shut up"
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44. Olubusola Legunsen
"@Erich Weiler silence they say is the best answer for a fool.
Younare race baiting as you would because of your divisive nature.
The african american knows who he is.
And if he doesnt then thats his loss.
You on the other hand hopefully are not an african american because if you were, you would not say the tings you say,
And if by any chance you have any trace of negro in you, then you a most miserable man.
Eitherway, i have nothing but pity for you."
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45. Prem's Writing
"@Erich Weiler shut. Up. You're not edgy, interesting, or controversial. You're lame, dude."
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46. Olubusola Legunsen
"@Erich Weiler You do need to examine yourself. Whatever physchological, identity or chemical imbalance going on with you, please keep it to yourself.
If you are an african american, you would know your origins and it would just be an issue of which tribe or people group you belong to at the source.
Frankly you cant be an african american because you dont talk or sound like one.
An african american would be akin to most peoples from sub saharan weste,central and east africa. An african american would have no issue with this.
You on the other hand must be something else. Otherwise you wont say the things you say.
Like i said, we know our peoples both at home and in diaspora.
You are not one of us.
And by any chance you are akin to us, then you are most miserable man and a lost soul.
I am of my kind and i am proud of my ghanian liberian senagalese togolese ivorian jamaican haitian african american family etc.
These are the names forced on us but we know who we really are.
WE ARE A ROYAL PRIESTHOOD AND A HOLY NATION.
You may not like it and may wish to see us as whatever you like.
Enjoy your heaven.
It wont last forever.
Do seek spiritual help.
YOU NEED IT"
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47. Todoroki
"Preach"
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48. Debra Lewis
"@Harris Re-nee not among average people thiugh"
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49. Debra Lewis
"@Olubusola Legunsen true"
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50. Cherifousmane Tembely
"49 99 my love you ❤"
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This is the title of the song/video that is being discussed in this YouTube discussion thread.
The title comes from a song by Afrobeat singer, musician, composer, activist Fela Kuti. In that song Fela allegorically said that in Nigeria 44 people sit in the bus while 99 people have to stand in the bus.
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51. vital aliu
"@James Nwanazia well said"
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vital aliu
"@James Nwanazia Knock out !! You too much"
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53. vital aliu
"@James Nwanazia nThat was a sweet combination of left and right hook
Bless up brother"
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54. vital aliu
"@Erich Weiler get away from your mother's basement oloriburuku dirty low life
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55. vital aliu
"@Erich Weiler on top ya mama Toto"
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56. vital aliu
"Erich Weiler Nigeria phobia will ensure your quick demise !! Oloriburuku Omo ale"
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57. vital aliu
"@Erich Weiler Chei Ghana don fall for gutter march am march am"
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58. vital aliu
"@Erich Weiler Get lost n0nsense"
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59. vital aliu
" @Erich Weiler Go get a job imbecile"
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60. vital aliu
" @Erich Weiler Confused semi literate degenerate peasant imbecile"
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61. ToksTV
"WATCH TIWA'S BEST PERFORMANCE EVER... WITH ZLATAN AT FELA'S SHRINE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iB_ePlmCOFQ
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62. Ambo
"STRAIGHT FACTS!!! One of the main music hubs of the world today"
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63. prince peprah
"True talk
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64. prince peprah
"@Major old franklin dear am so proud to be a ninja girl ooh"
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"Ninja" is probably a typo for "Naija" which is a colloquial referent for Nigeria.
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65. Toastyae
"yess"
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66. Hakeem Ojulari
"Absolutely correct. SA is bowing down"
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"SA"= South Africa
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67. Austin Richards
"They’ve been rich royal lineage ❤️π₯΅π₯΅"
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