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Friday, November 1, 2019

Information About & Reactions To The Survivor's Television Show Incident About Durags (with video & comments)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision-November 3, 2019

This pancocojams post provides information about and a video of the portion of the October 30, 2019 Survivor television show episode that referred to "durags".

The Addendum to this pancocojams post presents a contemporary definition for "do-rag" ("durag") as well as excerpts of articles about how Black males/females wearing this type of head scarf have been stigmatized.

Online comments that I read about that episode served as motivation for me to publish this post and this closely related pancocojams post: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/11/african-american-definitions-of-uses.html

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and educational purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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From https://meaww.com/survivor-island-of-the-idols-season-39-jamal-jack-durag-nascar-hair-nets-racisim-black-men-accused 'Survivor: Island of the Idols' Season 39: Jamal faces flak from fans who claim a durag is not a black thing but a hair thing

A situation arose between Jack and Jamal where Jack referenced a durag. Jamal explained why he had objections to the word and Jack apologized but fans back home think Jamal has it all wrong.

By Rachel Windsor, Published on : 21:32 PST, Oct 30, 2019
"'Survivor: Island of the Idols' season 39 returned on Wednesday night, and it was a nailbiting episode compared to the previous weeks with the Vokai tribe 2.0 being four Vokai tribe members and four former Lairo tribe members.

Last week we saw Karishma open up about her traditions and the struggle one might face while being in an arranged marriage. This is not something we get to see on a regular basis when it comes to reality TV shows. This week as the series returned we witnessed something along the same lines, but not entirely the same situation.

Things began to go out of hand when Jamal started showing his African drumming skills and was teaching Kellee to dance. While everything looks like rainbows and sunshine for the Vokai tribe at that point of time, matters suddenly went out of hand. Jack asked Jamal to take the pot out of the fire and instead of telling him to take it out using his "buff" he said the word "durag". Jamal got offended by the choice of Jack's words, and said this word has been used by white people to stereotype black men as thugs, murderers, and dead- beat dads. Jamal went on to add that this also leads to them visualizing black men with ample tattoos, wife beaters, and durags.

Jamal doesn't get all hyped up, and even though he is clearly hurt by the word, he calmly not only explains his issue with the word to Jack but also to the audience back home. While one would have assumed that with his explanation fans and viewers back home would have understood his stance about it, but it's sad to see that no one did.

Taking to social media post the episode, fans shared their views stating they don't see why Jamal got offended by that. Some stated that they heard about the word from their black friends, and never knew it was a racist term.

"When did a do rag become a "durag" and then become racist? WTF #Survivor," wrote a fan on Twitter. Adding to that another said, "Honestly, I was surprised as well, but then I just thought, maybe there's a gender difference here. #Durag isn't really a term that's used in reference to us. Maybe black men should weigh in (the few who watch this show? LOL!) #survivor."

"Yes! Durags are very common in Nascar for under helmets and bikers wear them, same reason, and Hulk Hogan called his head-wrap a durag all through the 80s! I have a big surprise for you... white and black folks share some cultural stuff because we are all Americans! #survivor," wrote a fan.

While another shared, "#Survivor jamal I guess you have no clue a durag has been used by hairdressers for decades to protect the hair during chemical process, and after the hair was set to protect the hairdo! A fing scarf is also a durag. It is NOT A BLACK thing, it is a hair thing!"

"That durag conversation was so staged. Durag are worn by all races. Tired of people looking for something to pick about. #Survivor," shared a fan. Adding to that another said, "Really #survivor? Really Jamal? You lower yourselves to turn a statement about a #durag into a micro aggression and lesson in #WhitePrivilege. You should both be ashamed. What lunacy."
What do you think?
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Here's one comment that I believe is typical of a number of White responses:
Kenny O'Connell, October 31, 2019
"While watching the show last night, I had to back it up to see what the big deal was. I'm a 56 year old white male that is bald and have been wearing bandana's and calling them durags for the past 15 years. I used to associate durags with bikers, not black people. I was like, when did this become a racists issue?!?!?! So I google it this morning to see what the big deal was. No where can I find how anyone considers a durag as "black men being thugs, wife beaters and murders". Except this post. People of all races wear durags all the time, and I love mine and will continue to wear mine and call them durags. I love wearing them during the summer, because if I don't, sweat just drips down my face. More over, I don't really care what anyone thinks about me wearing them either as I've gotten over my insecurities of being bald. Which by the way, being a white bald man has it's own issues of discrimination that I ignore. I actually thought it was more racists for Jamal to label Jack as a young white male as not understanding and calling it out as racist. That's the problem right there. Jack didn't care because it wasn't a race issue at all, until Jamal made it one. People need to get over their own insecurities and leave the past in the past. Until we move forward and start living together as one people in this great country or ours, and loving our neighbors regardless of race, gender, religion and whatever else, and quit calling out everything and anything as racist or discriminatory, we'll never get past the bull crap!"

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: 'Survivor' contestant's racial comment leads to touching moment



Celebs Today, Oct 30, 2019

On Survivor Wednesday night, a small, yet heavy, comment made by one contestant to another sparked an even bigger conversation, when Jack Nichting referred to Jamal Shipman's buff, a headpiece every contestant wears on the show, as a "durag."

"You should move it to the heat. Can you push it, Jamal, with your durag?" Nichting asked Shipman, who immediately questioned the reference. "Deep-seated. That was subconscious," stated Shipman. He added, "White people, I'm always, like, do you welcome the, like, race conversation?" The conversation could have gotten worse, had it not been for the fact that Nichting immediately felt remorse and embarrassment over the comment he had made.

"I made a joke. That sucked. I immediately knew that I had said something wrong, and I was very embarrassed to have said it. I just was, like, thinking about it makes me sweaty. I just felt really bad, because I felt like I compromised – I felt like Jamal views me in this mature way, and I feel like I just took steps backward," explained Nichting. Meanwhile, Shipman handled the moment with grace, agreeing to move forward with Nichting after a little bit of time.

"It's a little complicated about why this is insulting," Shipman explained to the audience. He continued, "I can understand why someone might think, what's the big deal? Don't black men wear durags? The problem with it is the image that probably a lot of white America has about black men is the thug, the deadbeat father, the leech on social services, which is often, unfortunately, people wearing durags, tattoos, wife beaters, right? So this whole caricature is so ingrained in our culture, and so comfortable for mainstream white America to digest about the black male body, that for a sweet, well-intentioned boy like Jack, it flows off the tongue."

Once some time had passed, the two had a heart-to-heart over the stigma related to durags, what the comment meant to Shipman, and how important it is to have self-awareness in regards to privilege.

"Jamal has a way of helping me understand that privileges do exist. You know, I don't think of myself as the most privileged person, but the fact of the matter is I am very privileged. I am. And it's really cool to share a very human moment with my strongest ally, because it brought us together more as friends, even though I made this very stupid comment," Nichting shared with viewers.

Viewers at home praised the moment and thanked CBS for showing some realness.

Source: https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/r...
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only). All of these comments are from October 31, 2019
1. JYTRO TULL
"Big strong man feelings hurt over the name of a scarf used to wrap around someone's head... Boy Bye!!"

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2. HVYContent
"I think he's upset because everybody on the show is wearing one...and yet, it wasn't called a Durag (or however the hell it's spelled) until the dude saw Jamal wearing one (which again, they all are wearing).
To Jamal, it's like attaching a negative stereotype of guys sporting these items in the hood, an image of a stereotypical thug-like character he probably is far from being himself.
Anyways, he's right, but this is Survivor, so sticks and stones :)"

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3. KryptKicker5
"If you watch the "apology" they're hiding Jamal's face as he is smiling. I thought it was a joke... When did durag become "black only" ??? Then they are being all serious about it. Being offended by multicultural headgear... that's just about as ignorant as you can get."

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4. Myles Yamada
"KryptKicker5 dumbass durags are for blacks because we have a hairstyle called waves we use them for . So you sound mad and stupid"

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5. Travis Hayes
"This is so sad that the word durag is considered racist and we had to have a whole conversation about it. Unbelievable this is where we are at."

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6. Jay Lyles
"Any discussion of microaggressions would be "unbelievable" if you've never been on the receiving end of a microaggression. But would you consider learning a little more about how these things impact people in the world who are different from you. Having empathy for someone else's experience is not a defect."

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7. Travis Hayes
"@Jay Lyles sounds more like someone whos looking to find racism in anything they can. I used to wear them and i everybody i ever knew called them durags. Maybe im just old and the connotation has changed."

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8. Jedidiah Bowman
"It’s about hair , as in hair do. Wtf is racist about that? Everyone from
Bikers to hairstylist use do rags. This is ridiculous. When did it become “durag” anyways?"

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9. Myles Yamada
"Jedidiah Bowman [profanity deleted], when has any biker said they wear durags. Stop making up lies and excuses. I would have more respect for people who are racist if they own it and stop making up lies every time they get called out on it."

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10. Chris francis
"@Myles Yamada literally on amazon for sale right now "durags or dorags" advertised for white or black people and photos on white people and advertised as biker head gear....."

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ADDENDUM: PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S RESPONSE TO THE QUESTION "WHAT IS A "DO-RAG"/"DURAG"?
Prior to the manufacturing of do-rags (durags) mostly targeted at African American males (which may have first occurred in the late 1970s), it was customary for many African American females and, to a lesser extent, African American males to use clean, inexpensive, old cloth scarves in our homes at bedtime to cover our hair. The word "do-rag" combines "do" = "hair-do" + "rags".

These old scarves and, later, these particular type of scarves that are known as "do-rags" (durags) were/are partly worn as a way of protecting hairstyles and reducing the frizz that was/is likely at night when our hair is uncovered during sleep. The old-school do-rag and the contemporary do-rag (durag) are also used to help create the contemporary Black male hairstyle known as "waves" ("360 waves").

It's important to emphasize that "do-rag/s" (also given as "durag/s") refer to a certain type of head scarf that is mostly worn by some African American males and some other Black males.

Here's https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/do-rag) definition of "do-rag" (durag): "a close-fitting, typically stretchable piece of cloth that is worn on the head (as to hold a hairstyle in place) and that usually has long ends which are tied in the back".

Customs of wearing any type of head scarf or bandana for fashion, to help maintain a hairstyle, and/or for other reasons are found throughout the world and are definitely far older than the 1960s/1970s contemporary meaning of "do-rag"/"durag".

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ADDENDUM: ARTICLE EXCERPTS ABOUT DO-RAGS/SURAGS (including content about Black males being stigmatized because they have on dorags/durags)
Excerpt #1:
From https://www.allure.com/story/durag-fashion-history-black-people-reclaiming-the-narrative The Renaissance of the Durag
What happens when black people take control of their own narratives.

BY ALISHA ACQUAYE
December 26, 2018
..."People of color are leading the charge to reclaim the durag, and redefine it in their own terms.

Images of black people, particularly black men, wearing durags have been part of our cultural consciousness for some time. Like many other styles and traditions chosen by black people, mainstream society predictably labeled the durag as something criminal and crude. But now people of color are leading the charge to reclaim the durag, and redefine it in their own terms. In art, music, and fashion, durags are being embraced as a symbol of divinity and diaspora, a marker of identity and existence, and a tribute to a black tradition that should no longer be ridiculed but revered.

Although there is no one origin of the durag, according to The New York Times, William J. Dowdy is known for popularizing it with So Many Waves, a brand that started in 1979. Darren Dowdy, William’s son and current president of the company, told The New York Times earlier this year that durags were first called “tie downs.” They were, and still are, used to keep curls and coils from springing back up after they were brushed down. The end result? A head of hair that resembles a sea of uniform waves. Durags can also prevent cornrows and braids from frizzing and keep locs neat. In the aughts, some of our favorite rappers brought visibility to durags in the mainstream media: Nelly, 50 Cent, Cam'Ron, and Ja Rule are a mere few who proudly wore theirs as a fashion statement. They rocked durags with suits, jeans, and jerseys, and underneath fitted caps. The varied ways they wore durags were a testament to their versatility, their fashionable functionality.

In spite of the obvious practical uses for durags, black men were, and still are, often labeled as thuggish and low-class when they wear them. In a 2017 GQ article, writer Brian Josephs explained that durags share a similarity with the head wrap, which many black women wear to protect their hair, for aesthetic appeal, or to cover their hair for religious reasons. In late-1700s New Orleans, the Tignon Laws required women of African descent to wear head wraps, according to Broadly. This was intended to suppress their beauty and physically distinguish their slave status. Similarly, in 2001, the NFL banned players from wearing durags and bandanas, but permitted skullcaps (if they showed team colors and logos). The NFL claimed the intention was to enforce a more uniform dress code, but the decision seemed rather, well, racist, as black players primarily wear durags. The NBA followed suit in 2005, around the time Allen Iverson became popular for wearing durags on the court, according to GQ."...

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Excerpt #2:
From https://www.highsnobiety.com/2017/08/18/why-do-people-wear-durags/##targetText=For%20men%20of%20color%2C%20durags,radial%20effect%20from%20the%20crown. What Does the Durag Actually Signify in 2017? By Staff in ClothingAug 18, 2017
..."For quite a while, durags weren’t really worn out in public. They were ostensibly the same sort of thing as house slippers; you wore them for a very specific reason within the confines of your own home.

It would have been been unseemly to do otherwise. But after the black liberation movement in the ’60s and ’70s, and as black entertainers rose to prominence in the 90s, that changed.

The heyday of public durags as a “trending” item was in the ’90s and early 2000s. Rappers like Chamillionaire, Cam’ron, 50 Cent and Nelly wore them everywhere.

They wore them under fitted caps as Memphis Black did in the late 90s as well as by themselves. In fact it was because of this outsized wearing of the piece that durags began to be manufactured in a variety of colors, sometimes even printed. Allen Iverson was once spotted in one printed with an American flag while Cam’ron went pink, as was his habit.

At first, the durag became a testament to and marker of blackness. It was simply a symbol of a somewhat shared experience, a mutual understanding.

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the durag was an acknowledgement of our similarity. But as is custom in American culture, that association got durags effectively criminalized.

As GQ points out, in 2001 and 2005, durags were banned from both the NFL and NBA. Journalists from the Washington Post and others began to debate whether or not it was appropriate, respectable even to wear a durag.

Black men wearing them became “those types” and black parents began to forbid their children from wearing them outside of the house to ward off those stereotypes.

The instances emboldened some entertainers, adding to the street credibility of the piece. So much so that the likes of Eminem donned it, hoping to translate not only the blackness but a bit of gritty street mentality through the visual representation.

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But before long, the durag as a public statement fell out of favor for a variety of reasons. Amongst them: long haired styles like fades and locs rose in prominence. In fashion, trends just die out. But recently, in a bit of a slow burn, the durag is coming back, mined for the significance it carries and experience it makes evident.

Most gloriously, Rihanna wore one at the 2016 VMAs channelling a certain type of black cool. The net cap swooped low, instantly recognizable to her fans. It was that same version of cool that Rick Owens and Kylie Jenner tried to cash in on when they utilized the piece."...

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Excerpt #3:
From https://www.gq.com/story/who-criminalized-the-durag
..."Walk through a bodega or hair supply spot in a major American city, and you’ll see them: rectangular packets uniformly covered with an image of a black man donning a durag (or doo-rag or do-rag). He’ll either be stone faced or slyly grinning, eyes glinting with promise. Some wear them to lay down their cornrows. Others, like myself and the young man on the bus, tie them for waves—those linear textures whose suppleness brings the instant satisfaction of a “That’s the Way Love Goes”-era Janet Jackson. The bargain luxury is symbolically significant, too. Seeing the durag as a crown is to take pride in something inextricable from blackness. Wearing it, the practical uses... are connectors amongst young black men...

With hip-hop’s rise as the core of black youth expression, the durag has become a fashion statement and a stand-in for the “black thug.” My mother was aware of that conception, so it’d makes sense that she’d attempt to protect me by demanding I only wear the durag inside our home. But remove the myths and you’ll find that, at the most basic level, it’s a self-maintenance cloth, something we use to keep our hair lain.

The durag’s existence as a utilitarian marker of black cool loosely parallels the head wraps worn by women in slaver-era America. With aesthetic roots in sub-Saharan Africa, head wraps grew to be one of the few means of expressions slaves had in the dehumanizing pre-Civil War America, where the stolen laborers would save what they had to buy headwear fabric. The garments had the practical purpose of absorbing sweat and protecting scalps from scathing daytime sun. Symbolically, the different stylings of the head wrap expressed individuality. “Here was a way for black women to reclaim their own sense of humanity,” says Tanisha C. Ford, associate professor of black American studies and history at the University of Delaware. Black hair care has since evolved into a cultural touchstone even as it’s policed by respectability politics and anti-black policing. You abandon the headwraps and durags in the private space in hopes of succeeding in the white, corporate world.

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It wasn’t long, however, before both the NFL and NBA banned durags, in 2001 and 2005, respectively. Allen Iverson, always one to represent the culture, noted, “They're targeting my generation–the hip-hop generation." NBA journeyman Sam Perkins was also admonished for wearing a durag in a preseason game because, apparently, “the league considers it ‘a safety hazard.’”

What’s more, the league’s biases were compounded by criticism by African-Americans, some of whom were ignited by cultural elitism and respectability politics. In a 2005 Washington Post column titled “The Case Against Do-Rags,” for example, author Jabari Asim wrote: “Maybe you'd rather discuss the late, great Rosa Parks, the ultimate modern symbol of principled individuality. Photos show that she was arrested and fingerprinted in 1955 while wearing a crisply tailored suit and minimal makeup. Dignity in abundance, but no do-rag in sight.”

Intra-cultural and white opposition toward the durag don’t run parallel. Ford argues that parents and guardians feel the anxiety my mother felt when she told me not to wear mine outside of the house. “I think when African-Americans of certain generations reject durags, they’re doing it, in part, out of fear—out of the desire to protect black youth,” Ford says. “They’re unsafe from agents of the state or white vigilantes. What we’ve learned—and what we’ve always known—is that your respectability won’t save you. That not wearing a durag will keep you alive.

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I often do [wear durags outside my home] for two reasons: First, I’m no criminal because I want waves. Secondly, the durag’s stigma isn’t singular; black expression is susceptible to criminalization because it’s attached to a black body. So, greeting the sun and walking to Midtown for work with a durag snugly worn under my beanie is my quotidian existential triumph. One has to be ready to risk it all to be black and wavy."
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Here's an excerpt of a Wikipedia page on "waves" [hairstyle] for Black males:
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waves_(hairstyle)
"Waves are a hairstyle for curly hair in which the curls are brushed and/or combed and flattened out, creating a ripple-like pattern.

The hairstyle begins with a short-cropped haircut and frequent brushing and/or combing of the curls, which trains the curls to flatten out and wearing a do-rag. Wave pomades and moisturizers can help hold the hair in place while preventing the hair from getting too dry.[1][2] A do-rag is worn to preserve moisture while compressing the hair and holding it in place.[3][4][5]

In the early 20th century, as many African-American men sought to style their hair with texture-altering products, "cold soap" waves became a popular hairstyle. Men produced waves by washing their hair with soap but not rinsing all of it out before putting on their do-rags.[6]"
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I believe that the term "curly hair" that is used in that Wikipedia page is a euphemism for what is now commonly [among African Americans and some other Black people] referred to as "type 4 hair texture". Note that some African Americans and other Black people have type 3 hair textures, and other type hair textures, and it is common for some African American individuals and other Black individuals to have a mixture of hair textures.

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Thursday, July 18, 2019

"Two Examples Of "For All We Know" Performed by Donny Hathaway & Performed by Billy Porter

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases the 1934 song "For All We Know" and showcases a 1972 example of that song by Donny Hathaway and an example of that song by Billy Porter.

Information about that song and information about those two singers are also included in this post along with selected comments from YouTube sound file or YouTube video of those renditions.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composers of "For All We Know". Thanks also to Donny Hathaway and Billy Porter for their musical legacies. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE SONG "FOR ALL WE KNOW"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/For_All_We_Know_(1934_song)
" "For All We Know" is a popular song published in 1934, with music by J. Fred Coots and lyric by Sam M. Lewis.

There are alternate verses but the main lyrics start: "For all we know we may never meet again".[1]

Popular versions in 1934 were by Hal Kemp (vocal by Skinnay Ennis) and Isham Jones (vocal by Joe Martin).[2]

The song has been recorded by a host of artists including Al Martino, The Andrews Sisters, Aretha Franklin, Billie Holiday, Crystal Gayle, Dinah Washington, Doris Day, Fran Jeffries, Bette Midler, Nat King Cole, Rod Stewart, and Rosemary Clooney.

The version by Dinah Washington reached #88 on the chart in 1962. A version by The Spinners in 1965 gave it a more contemporary sound.

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The Donny Hathaway version from the LP Roberta Flack & Donny Hathaway (Atlantic, 1972) has become one of the standout versions of the song.[citation needed]

A cover by Abbey Lincoln was featured prominently in the Gus Van Sant film Drugstore Cowboy.

A cover by Billy Porter and Our Lady J was featured in a 2018 episode of Pose.[3]”...
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The lyrics to this song are given below in the comment section for the Donny Hathaway sound file.

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INFORMATION ABOUT DONNY HATHAWAY
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donny_Hathaway
"Donny Edward Hathaway (October 1, 1945 – January 13, 1979) was an American soul singer, keyboardist, songwriter, and arranger. Hathaway signed with Atlantic Records in 1969 and with his first single for the Atco label, "The Ghetto", in early 1970, Rolling Stone magazine "marked him as a major new force in soul music."[1] His enduring songs include "The Ghetto", "This Christmas", "Someday We'll All Be Free", "Little Ghetto Boy", "I Love You More Than You'll Ever Know", signature versions of "A Song for You", "For All We Know", "Where Is the Love" and "The Closer I Get to You", two of many collaborations with Roberta Flack. "Where Is the Love" won the Grammy Award for Best Pop Performance by a Duo or Group with Vocals in 1973. At the height of his career, Hathaway was diagnosed with paranoid schizophrenia.[2] On January 13, 1979, Hathaway's body was found outside the luxury hotel Essex House in New York City; his death was ruled as suicide.

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Family
Hathaway met his wife, Eulaulah, at Howard University and they married in 1967.[2] They had two daughters, Eulaulah Donyll (Lalah) and Kenya. Lalah Hathaway has enjoyed a successful solo career, while Kenya is a session singer and one of the three backing vocalists on the hit TV program American Idol. Both daughters are graduates of the Berklee College of Music. Donny also has a third daughter, Donnita Hathaway.

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Influence
According to Allison Keyes from NPR, Hathaway's solo recordings are "part of the foundation of American soul music" and have "influenced performers from R&B singers Alicia Keys & Aaliyah to rapper Common to singer-guitarist George Benson".[11] He was named the 49th-greatest singer of all time in a 2010 list published by Rolling Stone.”...

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From https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=127935255
NPR Series "50 Great Voices" - Donny Hathaway: Neglected Heart Of Soul
TRANSCRIPT, June 21, 2010 12:00 AM ET
Heard on Morning Edition, ALLISON KEYES
"Singer-composer-arranger Donny Hathaway is perhaps best known for his duets with singer Roberta Flack, but the body of solo work he left behind when he died 30 years ago is part of the foundation of American soul music. His songs have influenced performers from R&B singer Alicia Keys to rapper Common to singer-guitarist George Benson.

Hathaway's voice was clear and powerful, and his piano-playing was remarkable in its own right. He exercised uncanny control over both of his instruments. Contemporary singer-songwriter Raul Midon -- often compared to Hathaway -- says Hathaway not only had an incredible voice, but also the technique of a classical singer.

"He's just the strongest soul singer that ever existed," he says. "Call it gospel. Call it soul. Call it whatever you want. That tradition of singing… black singers, African-American singers. He came from that tradition."...

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INFORMATION ABOUT BILLY PORTER
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Porter_(entertainer)
"Billy Porter (born September 21, 1969) is an American Broadway theatre performer, pop singer, and actor. He attended the Musical Theater program at Pittsburgh Creative and Performing Arts School's[1] School of Drama, graduated from Carnegie Mellon University School of Drama, and achieved fame performing on Broadway before starting a solo career as a singer.

Porter won the 2013 Tony Award for Best Actor in a Musical for his role as Lola in Kinky Boots at the 67th Tony Awards. For the role, Porter also won the Drama Desk Award for Outstanding Actor in a Musical and Outer Critics Circle Award for Outstanding Actor in a Musical. Porter also won the 2014 Grammy Award for Best Musical Theater Album for Kinky Boots. He currently stars in the television series Pose for which he was nominated for a Golden Globe Award and the Primetime Emmy Award for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series."...

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From https://www.huffpost.com/entry/billy-porter-emmy-nomination-pose_n_5d2f79c8e4b020cd993e0ee6
Billy Porter On Historic Emmy Nomination: ‘The Sky Is The Limit Now, Honey!’
"Working on the FX series “Pose,” the openly gay black actor said, “taught me how to dream the impossible.”
By Kimberley Richards, 7/17/2019

Billy Porter is celebrating being recognized for his work on the barrier-breaking FX series “Pose.”

The Tony Award-winning actor earned an Emmy nomination on Tuesday for Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series for his role as ballroom emcee Pray Tell.

He told Deadline that working on “Pose,” which is noted for casting a record number of transgender actors on a TV show, taught him how to “dream the impossible.”

“I’ve always had huge dreams but I realized now that my dreams have been springboarded off of things I have already seen,” Porter said. “They weren’t about dreaming the impossible. They weren’t about dreaming things that didn’t exist.”

“Ryan Murphy, Steven Canals, Brad Falchuk, FX — everybody involved in the show taught me how to dream the impossible,” he added, referring to the show’s creators. “The sky is the limit now, honey!” "...
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Here's information about the television series Pose
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pose_(TV_series)
"Pose (stylized as POSE) is an American drama television series about the African-American and Latinx trans, gay and gender-nonconforming ballroom culture scene in New York City in the 1980s and, in the second season, early 1990s. Featured characters are dancers and models who compete for trophies and recognition in this underground culture, and who support one another in a network of chosen families known as Houses.

Created by Ryan Murphy, Brad Falchuk, and Steven Canals, the series premiered on June 3, 2018, on FX. The series stars an ensemble cast including MJ Rodriguez, Dominique Jackson, Billy Porter, Indya Moore, Ryan Jamaal Swain, Charlayne Woodard, Evan Peters, Kate Mara, James Van Der Beek, Hailie Sahar, Angelica Ross, Angel Bismark Curiel, and Dyllรณn Burnside.

The first season was met with positive reviews upon its premiere and subsequently received numerous award nominations including the Golden Globe Award for Best Television Series – Drama and the Golden Globe Award for Best Actor – Television Series Drama for Billy Porter. In July 2018, it was announced that the series had been renewed for a second season, which premiered on June 11, 2019. Also in June, FX renewed the series for a third season."...

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SHOWCASE YOUTUBE EXAMPLES
Example #1: For All We Know



Donny Hathaway – Topic, Published on Aug 26, 2014

Provided to YouTube by Rhino Atlantic

For All We Know · Donny Hathaway

Never My Love: The Anthology

℗ 1971 Atlantic Recording Corporation
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Here are selected comments from the discussion thread for this sound file (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)
1. Bluespower1792, 2017
"Every time I listen to this song I am in awe over the performance as well as the sentiments of the song."

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2. Renee Windon, 2018
"Love it....soul stirring"

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3. Sharell Taylor, 2018
"Heard this on POSE last night. It's been on rotate ever since!"

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4. mjc3182, 2018
"Sharell Taylor that's what brought me here!!"


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5. MaatDiva8, 2018
"๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ข๐Ÿ˜ž"

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6. Justin Case, 2018
"For all we know
We may never meet again
Before you go

Make this moment sweet again
We won't say goodnight
Until the last minute
I will hold out my hand
And my heart will be in it
For all we know

This may only be a dream
We come and we go
Like the ripples of a stream
So love me

Love me tonight
Tomorrow was made for some
Tomorrow may never come
For all we know"

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Example #2:POSE on FX:Billy Porter as Pray Tell Sings!


Butterfly Kisses, Published on Jul 9, 2018

Song Clip from POSE ON FX . Billy Porter as Pray Tell sings Donny Hathaway's "For All We Know".
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Here are selected comments from the discussion thread for this video (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)
1. Yolanda Hutcherson, 2018
"i thought I was the only one who cried like a baby when he sang this song. I had never heard of Billy Porter and I was amazed at his voice. I was already impressed with the acting skills. Great Job, Mr. Porter."

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2. samsamsamtheman, 2019
"Yolanda Hutcherson look him up on here for Kinky Boots.... BTW he’s in Drag and Boots in Kinky Boots. One of the best! ๐Ÿ’™"

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3. eric brunson, 2018
"I have never ever cried as hard watching a television show.....the emotional impact of this episode hit me like a ton of bricks"

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4. Queen Bee The Diva, 2018
"My favorite Donny Hathaway song"

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5. veronica larkins, 2018
"So I cried a lot, Donnie Hathaway’s version is beautiful, but this right here....I can’t watch without tearing up."

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6. rekeyamarie, 2018
"You betta saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaannnnggg Pray Tell!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️"
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"Pray Tell" is the name of the character that Billy Porter plays on the American television series Pose.
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Here's information about the phrase "pray tell"
From https://www.definitions.net/definition/pray+tell
"pray tell(Interjection)
Expressing incredulity, please explain (some claim or position the speaker doubts)."

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7. babeevokalz, 2019
"My heart hurts when i think of all the pain my lgbt family had to endure in the past all the hate, discrimination, aids etc. They had to deal with, still deal with but im hopeful for our future and i look forward to it! Love you all my lgbt family๐ŸŒˆ"

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8. Gillian Atkinson, 2019
"The category is:
๐Ÿ’– ๐Ÿ’•FAAABULOUS!๐Ÿ’•๐Ÿ’–
Billy Porter single handedly holds this entire show together stunningly.
It's absolutely beautiful.
I'm loving it. x"

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9. Robert Lee, Countertenor, 2019
"He went to church on that. Billy is incredible"

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10. Mark Manalaysay, 2019
"Come through season 2!!!! I just finished season 1 on netflix. Cried so many times. I am living right now. Cant wait for June 9. This show is REAL."

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11. Bo Boga, 2019
"I just got hip to Pose, watching this episode, BILLIE PORTER is everything! I'm officially a new huge fan..."

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Thursday, April 19, 2018

"The Blackest Black Jeopardy?" - Additional Comments About SNL's Black Jeopardy Sketch Featuring Chadwick Boseman (T'Challa/Black Panther)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part IV of a four part series that showcases the April 7, 2018 "Black Jeopardy" sketch on the weekly national American televised series Saturday Night Live. Among others, this sketch starred Chadwick Boseman in his role as T'Challa from the blockbuster Black Panther movie.

Part IV provides an excerpt from an article about that sketch and presents additional* selected comments about this April 7, 2018 "Black Jeopardy" sketch. In addition, this post presents selected comments comparing this sketch with other Black Jeopardy skits and the Saturday Night Live series itself and selected comments about whether or not the concept and content of Saturday Night Lives' "Black Jeopardy" is racist and/or stereotypical.

*The comments compiled in this post are in addition to the comments that are presented in Part II and Part III of this pancocojams series.

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Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/04/saturday-night-lives-black-jeopardy.html for Part I of this pancocojams series presents an excerpt from an online article about this "Black Jeopardy" skit and a video of this skit. My transcript of this skit is also included in this post. This transcript differs slightly from the sub-titles that appear in that embedded video.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/04/tchalla-black-panther-karens-potato.html for Part II of this series. Part II presents selected comments from this video's discussion thread about "T'Challa & Karen's potato salad". The Addendum to that post presents the entire sub-thread (as of April 16, 2018) about "Black Cookout Rules & Regulation".

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/04/comments-about-sprite-being-black-soda_18.html for Part III of this series. Part III of this series presents selected comments from the discussion thread of the YouTube video of April 7, 2018 Saturday Night Live's "Black Jeopardy". These comments focus on two of the "prizes" announced for the "Black Jeopardy" contestants: Sprite (which was described as "the Black soda" and "Useta Hold Margarine" containers.

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The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Chadwick Boseman, Kenan Thompson, and all others who performed on that sketch and thanks to that sketch's writers. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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ARTICLE EXCERPT:
From https://www.bet.com/celebrities/news/2018/04/08/black-jeopardy-chadwick-boseman-snl.html T'Challa On Black Jeopardy Is The Funniest SNL Sketch In Ages
Even Wakandans know not to eat everyone's potato salad.
Written by Jerry L. Barrow, published in the week of April 12, 2018

"King T'Challa, ruler of Wakanda, has had to make some adjustments since opening his nation's borders to the outside world....

In a perfectly written SNL sketch, host Chadwick Boseman plays a game of "Black Jeopardy" as Black Panther's T'Challa, who is trying to navigate his way around Black American culture. As he fumbles his way through categories like "Fid'na" and "Aww Hell Na," he finally finds his footing in the "White People" category, reasoning the lack of seasoning in some woman named Karen's potato salad.

[That video is embedded here and the following quote is T'Challa response to the "Aw hell naw" category's answer about what would you say when a woman named Karen brings potato salad to a Black cookout.]

It is noble that she volunteer to cook for everyone. And although I have never had potato salad, I sense that this white woman does not season her food. And if she does, it is only with a tiny bit of salt and no paprika, and she will probably add something unnecessary like raisins. So I feel I should say, ‘aw hell no, Karen. Keep your bland-ass potato salad to yourself.

Now if he brings this level of deductive reasoning in dealing with Thanos he may just make it out of Infinity War alive."...

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Black Jeopardy with Chadwick Boseman – SNL



Saturday Night Live, Published on Apr 7, 2018

Shanice (Leslie Jones), Rashad (Chris Redd) and T'Challa (Chadwick Boseman) compete on Black Jeopardy, hosted by Darnell Hayes (Kenan Thompson).
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Statistics (as of April 18, 2018 11:11 AM EST):

8,981,416 total views

173K total likes

5.6K total dislikes

12,417 comments

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD: WHY SPRITE IS CONSIDERED "THE BLACK SODA"

All of these comments were published from April 7-April 18, 2018. These comments are given by subject matter.

numbers were added for referencing purposes only.

Part I: Comments about the Jeopardy categories, "questions", responses, and prizes

1. Claire Knight
" “The only jeopardy where the prize money is paid in installments” I AM DECEASED!"

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2. Ariel Cotton
"Claire Knight
and no cash prize lol. margarine tub ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ burnt steak and sprite haha"

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3. D Mason
"These category choices!!! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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4. Zaneta Smith
"D Mason AW HELL NAW ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚
FID’NA"

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5. Upshot p
"I live in the suburbs and even I know it’s finna not fidna ๐Ÿง"

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6. terry berry
"Upshot p not everywhere though ! ๐Ÿคท๐Ÿฝ‍♀️"

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7. Tima & Dukes
"cable bill in your grandmama name "what is to honor her" lol only in WAKANDA! ๐Ÿคฃ"

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8. brokeboi 15
"That's really nice. It's wrong, but it's really nice๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€"

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9. Lexiaa Forever
"“To honor her as the foundation of the family “
“You right but that’s WRONG “"

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10. Dawn Lee
"Lexiaa Forever I died after he said that๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚⚰️⚰️"

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11. cire155
"I was crying laughing at this one. The best one"

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12. R Ree
"Lexiaa Forever what’s fidna"

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13. Azizi Powell
"R Ree, "fid'na" is a form of the African American Vernacular English term "finna", meaning "gettin[g] ready" (to do something). "Finna probably comes from the Southern Black pronunciation for "fixin to". In the city of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania where I live, I've heard some Black folks say "fixin to" more often than "finna".

Of course, not all African Americans use "finna" or "fixin to" when we want to say "gettin[g] ready to". For what it's worth, I've never used those terms and I've never heard or seen "fid'na" used before this "Black Jeopardy" sketch."

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14. Teofilo Tuiteleleapaga
" “What is to honor her, as the foundation of the family” followed by a reassuring nod"

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15. Brandon Blizzy
"What is to honor her as the foundation of the family๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ #WAKANDA FOREVER๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿฟ‍♀️"

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16. J.R.TV
"I'm a Nigerian and I approve this message"

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17. Lola Femme fatale
"J.R.TV lol"

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18. gatfatf
"J.R.TV I realized it when he said "This Karen is Caucasian, eh ?" "

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19. Elike Heh
"J.R.TV same but I am Ghanaian"

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20. Katy Clark
"J.R.TV I am Egyptian"

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21. Teddy Onditi
"I am Kenyan and will forever approve this message ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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22. A-man the9
"J.R.TV I am Cameroonian and I approve this message."

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23. Bright Light
"J.R.TV The Congo tribe will not challenge today!"

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24. Thatgirl Bubbz
"Lol this is awesome๐Ÿ˜‚"

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25. to_ dark
"J.R.TV no one asked yo dark ass"

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26. Phan Account
"and no one asked your sensitive ass either."

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27. JJKILร‰M M
"I’m an Angolan and I also aprove it"

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28. Zino A
"with your stupid self, no one asked you either and not all Nigerians are dark skin you fool @to_dark"

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29. ichocomilo
"R Ree I'm Ghanaian and for most of us Africans, it's fairly simple for us to determine different/authentic accents."

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30. NameCallingIsWeak
"I'm Ghanaian and for most of us Africans, , it's fairly simple for us to determine different/authentic accents" In America it's easy to identify those from New York, Texas, Boston ... California is harder... Midwest is even harder."

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31. fuzzy one
"yea, except the part about trusting the police. Africans don't trust the police anywhere."

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32. Rachel McCoy
"He hella talking bout shuri “one day she can become a great scientist” I’m hella weak"

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33. A. V.
"Well, the answer we were looking for was...out my damn house" ๐Ÿ˜‚"

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34. Avondale Advantage
"What is I ain't got it because I died, you talking to a GHOST. Sallie Mae will still come after you."
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"Sallie Mae" is a publicly traded company that is the largest provider of education loans in the United States, as of 2016. Along with providing student loans, Sallie Mae purchases student loans from original lenders and provides financing to state-based student-loan agencies." https://www.investopedia.com/terms/s/salliemae.asp
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"Sallie Mae" is a semi-colloquial name for this higher education (university/college) student lending company.

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35. hourglas39
"I need to use that one when the student loan people call! LOL 2:31"

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36. Paige
"Tchalla: I don't know this one. LOL LOL"



"Tchalla: I think I'm getting the hang of this..."

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37. serbrightside
"Culley Notice the Coming To America and Wesley Snipes shout out. Eddie Murphy's character was another African price and Wesley was supposed to star as Black Panther 20 years ago but the movie was cancelled."
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The "host" mentioned African American actor Wesley Snipes after the question about paying student loans (as a backhanded reference to Snipe's legal problems regarding that.) This was when "T'Challa" responded "I don't know this one".

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38. HeroesNStuff
"I wonder what Kill-monger's answers would have been. lol"

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39. Benjamin Hayes
"HeroesNStuff prolly sum like my ancestors didn't have the pleasure to eat the white mans bland ass potato salad. Nah they were starved and forced to eat pig guts and whatever other left overs that the white man deemed worthy id rather die of starvation than take pitty from the likes of karen๐Ÿ˜‚"

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40. Sebastien O.
"Benjamin Hayes INCREDIBLY ACCURATE ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ"

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41. Collin LaBrosse
" "Bad things happen when you kick Jesus out your house" realest sentence spoke on SNL"

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42. jeanene henry
"Very true."

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43. Kova Rogers
"True dat!!"

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44. Jamal Walker
"The policeman says there's been some robberies in your neighborhood and ask if you have "any information.""
"What is, not only do I tell this man what I know, but I also assist him in tracking down the offender. After all our ministers of law enforcement are only here to protect us. Is this correct?"
Best part lol"

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45. DarlingNikki2
"Kenan's facial expressions at that part had me dying laughing!”

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46. morgaffi
"I've watched this at least 10 times and have tears in my eyes every freaking time...please tell me it's ok for a white guy to find this so damned funny! Kenan is always spot on absurd ("I mean, it SHOULD be"!), but Chadwick's straightfaced unawareness is too freaking hysterical!!!!
I need a Sprite......"

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47. Jay Wright
"You could wind up looking like The Weekend lololol ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ"

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48. Jaime C
" "The sound of white people nearby, shopping for real estate means the fun is over." -rotfl,(while dying and crying inside at it's truth)."

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49. Mr. E B
"That trap theme song tho Lmfaoooo
-snip-
This comment refers to the Trap” music version of the theme for the actual Jeopardy television series."

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50. Jennifer Schillig
"03:30: "...like my awesome sister." (I kid you not...I would watch an entire movie about Shuri.)"

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51. Inkimetronic
"Chadwick Boseman is truly a king. To deliver all of those lines with so much control and character. I mean he could have burst our laughing at any moment. But also, what I LOVED HERE is the TRULY NOBLE and KIND character expressed of T'Challa. We see this in the film and also it is accentuated here. He actually is a true optimist but also a realist; he believes in hope, courage, valour and honour and his answers all really reflect that. He answers like a king and T'Challa is bae."

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52. Jacquelyn Brown-Benefield
"Inkimetronic What a beautiful observation (I noticed the kindness too), and I appreciate your sharing it (and your enthusiasm over it :-). This skit hit on many levels! ๐Ÿ˜„"

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53. Heavenly Controller
"Killmonger would’ve swept this game in the first round ๐Ÿ˜‚"

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54. julez4002
"He's from America T'Challa isn't."

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55. Aaron Verico1
"julez4002

Good point."

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56. Kenneth Wright
"julez4002 That IS the point"

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57. Balzac T. Bagher
"julez4002 that's the damn joke"

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58. CorbCorbin
"In dee face!!
Coming To America reference thrown in as well.

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59. Joi Dennie
"When I read this that came on AND I DIED"

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60. Rasun FrmQns
"If they added the ghost of killmonger, that woulda put this over the top"

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61. Wassup G
"Rasun FrmQns yasss!"

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62. Aaron Verico1
"onemoment

The whole damn sketch is funny as hell! Lol. This Black Jeopardy is an instant classic! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ฏ"

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63. Christian Satine
"Hysterical from beginning to end, even the prizes. "Well Done Steaks". OMG! That describes me and my mom. Hahahaha!"

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64. GeorgiaDawg 247
" “To honor her, as she is the foundation of the family.”

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65. janwera
"GeorgiaDawg 247 that was the response that ๐Ÿ˜ต me ... I heard that and his law enforcement answer and thought , oh dear, T’Challa isn’t going to make it but our boy came through in the end - praise be ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿฟ"

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66. me
"I like to think this is canon in the MCU."
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"MCU" = Marvel Comic Universe

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67. moviemaster8510
"Officially canon. No one can convince me otherwise."

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68. John Adamson
" "the sound of white people shopping nearby for real estate means that the fun is over" lmaoooooo"

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69. jasmine xo
"Funniest line 'after all, our ministers of law enforcement are only here to protect us' ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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70. Jay'Reid Tips
"jasmine xo facts only...
"Not only will I tell him everything I know but I will help track down the offenders" I was dead ๐Ÿ˜ต๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿคฃ"

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71. no thanks
"Was...was that a gentrification joke at the end? damn ๐Ÿ’€"

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72. SaveYourGames.com
"It surely was. ๐Ÿ˜ซ"

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73. Felicia Kelley
" “The sound of White People shopping for real estate “
So much truth in that statement"

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Part II: Comments about that sketch compared to other "Black Jeopardy" skits and/or compared to the Saturday Night Live series itself
1. tralfama dorian
"Black Jeopardy is still one of my fav things on SNL. Kenan makes it always look soo easy and fun as if there was no acting involved."

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2. Sea Pig
"There isn't. Kenan is the same "character" in every sketch."

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3. Nutella Ninja
"Sea Pig Well, he IS the host. But his reactions and jokes are hilarious. Plus, being in a skit is still technically acting."

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4. Nutella Ninja
"Noah Hurley-Abelew Kenan Thompson is acting as the Black Jeopardy host in this skit. He's like a parody, or a black Alex Trebek."

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5. Trevor Hegstrom
"His facial expressions are the best part of this skit"

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6. AGENT X DIGITAL VIDEO
"HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHa omg so funny! Great performance by Chadwick! Great writing!"

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7. Louie
"This is my favorite black jeopardy yet, T’Challa’s answers were too funny ๐Ÿ˜‚ ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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8. slick vick
"Louie my favorites gotta be Jamie fox"

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9. R Navs
"Louie tom hanks was better sry"

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10. amazedsatsuma
"R Navs agreed while this one was good...the Tom Hanks one was perfect"

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11. Darius King
"This one and drake's are my favorite."

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12. Natalie
"My favorite is the one with Elizabeth Banks! She is TOO funny! She turned her whiteness up like 200%๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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13. รฎtลก.lรธรฑdรธรฑ dรผh
"R Navs he ain't even black๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ˜‚"

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14. Your Boy Guzma
"Louie He was being so sincere with his answers. ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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15. Louie
"I'm not saying this was the best, I said it was my favorite. Tom Hanks was hilarious tho with that Trump hat and answering all the questions right ๐Ÿ˜‚"

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16. mystichdx
"I just rewatched all five Black Jeopardy skits. They were all good, no doubt, but this one with T'Challa is the best, the funniest, and my favourite. Who vex loss."

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17. Adaiah Todd
"This is the Best skit I’ve seen on SNL in years! Great writers! ๐Ÿ’ฏ๐Ÿ’ฏ"

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18. Shaleigh09
"Whoever wrote this skit should get a raise ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚... the best yet"

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19. Maveth The Reaper
"AHAHAHAHAHHAHA best SNL"

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20. Sweet Candy
"@0:26 Boy this might be the blackest Black Jeopardy yet lol"

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21. Micah Jondel DeShazer
"This is such a smartly written sketch haha so damn good. We could be like Wakanda...but we playin yall xD"

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22. youdbettertube
"This is the best one since the Tom Hanks one.

Also, I guess Shanice is always the secret returning champion, cuz she's there in that flower jacket every time ahaha"

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23. Lamar Childers
"Still cannot stop laughing at this episode ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ๐Ÿคฃ"

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24. Louie
"Ayee #1 in trending fam ๐Ÿ”ฅ๐Ÿป"

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25. Monica Wilson
"An instant Classic. I was laughing so hard by the time he got to "aw hell..." I could not hear it. Loved the way Chadwick stayed in character. OMG - I must have watched this 5 times already...and will some more."

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26. Nancy I
"CHADWICK IS A GREAT ACTOR, stayed in character the entire time with the mannerisms and everything. BIG UPS TO KEENAN, too!!!"

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27. Eros Blake
"Y'all done corrupted T'Challa."

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28. Alika Decosta
"Eros Blake, it's called Americanized."

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29. Philip Winn
"Americanized, corrupted, same thing really."

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30. Tj Benson
"This comment section is A-1. I love people who have an actual sense of humor."

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31. Skinny Mccollum
"These 5000 dislikes are all white people never can have a bit of fun lol!"

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32. sphinx onyx
"Black jeopardy with Keenan is a gift that keeps giving."

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33. carolene daniel
"sphinx onyx amen"

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34. Trina Parker
"sphinx onyx Kenan's facial expressions at T'Challa's innocent and wholesome answers are PRICELESS!!"

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35. Starr Kidd
"But the question is...is black jeopardy written by black writers?"

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36. Lela Robinson
"Starr Kidd is definitely Written by people who KNOWS black people so I see where you are going with this! I think it was written by Keenan tho!"

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37. Isla_Lamar
"I think so, Michael Che is the head writer for SNL"

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38. KashayDixon
"If it wasn't, it was still hilarious!!"

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39. Ronald Jones
"Starr Kidd big leslie(shanice) writes too."

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40. Cody Searcy
"This is the best skit SNL does."

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41. Viper8828
"the tom hanks one and him being amazing killed me lol"

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42. Amp Ent
"I saw the tom hanks to, but this one had me crying and laughing at the same time"

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43. claritza rodriguez
"Amp Ent tchalla character made it hilarious"

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44. Amp Ent
"This was by far the funniest Black Jeopardy yet! Kudos to the writers on this one!!"

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45. Maveth The Reaper
"AHAHAHAHAHHAHA best SNL"

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46. Brdon Thms
"Black Panther needs to visit Black Jeopardy many more times"

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47. Nia Iman
"Brdon Thms And please bring killmonger next time"

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48. Delishia Hollingsworth
"+Nia Iman ikr"

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49. Tameisha Shevelle
"This is everythang lol"

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50. troy jorn
"this is consistently the best skit on the show"

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51. Daphne Dadzie
"This is the best black Jeopardy. no matter how many times I watch it I laugh so much each time. Wakanda forever!"

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52. artist4ever25
"This is funniest Black Jeopardy ever! I couldn't stop laughing! It is bad that I found everything relatable? Definitely the blackest Black Jeopardy ever!"

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53. lordjimbo2
"They crushed this so hard. Brilliant from start to finish."

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Part III: Comments about the concept Of "Black Jeopardy" and whether "Black Jeopardy" is racist/stereotypical
1. Jeff
"Black Panther welcome to Black Jeopardy."

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2. ICON
"Jeff Wakanda is Forever"

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3. Culley
"Only if your black u understand ever lol joke and none of em went over your head, even the lil subtle slights u caught"

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4. Dj Subia
"I'm Mexican and the answers sound very similar ๐Ÿ˜‚"

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5. Kai P.
"people getting offended by this is so funny"

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6. Snicker Doodie
"I'm not offended and I'm white. But I can positively tell you that there is an obvious double standard going on here. If there was a White Jeopardy, and pulled up a "black people" category, black people would be pissed off. Riots would ensue. Just sayin cause it's true. The most racially sensitive group in the world (BLACK PEOPLE) get a pass when being racist. Guess it's ok to do certain things depending on your skin color.... hmmmm"

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7. BigKing Bud
"This is about as racist as an SNL skit can get.

Written by jews, watched by white U.S. male youths, and nobody wins..."

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8. Mark X
"BigKing Bud
This coming from a White guy who’s ancestors created the entire racist problem in America.
You want to complain about racism then confront the Real racist like Nazis and Klan. Oh that’s right, your kind are Nothing but Cowards when it comes to saying something to them. You see them but act like you don’t all the while using a Magnifying glass on us.
Go Crawl your ass under a rock and STFU! Until you learn how to confront the Real Racist you’re not credible or worth Shyte in confronting us๐Ÿคจ!"

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9. ExquisiteKinkyCoils
"Mark X brilliant post! Keep it up."

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10. oscar24x
"Well said Mark X!!"

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11. TheRedPill Provider
"Mark X [less than symbol] Nazis in 2018
[less than symbol] Klans members in 2018
Grow the f&&k* up dumbass."
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* This word is fully spelled out in that comment on that YouTube discussion thread.

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12. Mark X
"TheRedPill Provider
You must really be a Stupid ass if you don’t recognize there are Klan and Nazis running wild in 2018 America.
Are you that ill informed and Ignorant that you don’t know there was just a Klan/Nazis rally in Charlottesville, VA just last Summer in which a woman was KILLLED by one of the Racist Nazi/Klan Scum๐Ÿค”??? And the Lump of Shyte๐Ÿ’ฉ so called President that you probably support so nothing to condemn the Scum.
You need to STFU because it’s clear you’re not educated enough to give a legit reply to my comments, Idiot๐Ÿคจ!"

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13. ZealousSoulz
"Black Jeopardy is a whole ass inside joke for black folks. We know everything they were talking about ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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14. Chad Thompson
"You're retarded, all colors know what they were talking about. Your culture isn't some amazing secret that only blacks know about, you forget, everywhere yall go yall are the loudest and can't keep ya mouths shut on anything so now the rest of the world knows every stereotype about black folks and it's all pretty true."

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15. Jett Norr
"Aw hell naw Chad Thompson"

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16. Ian Kin
"Chad Thompson wtf is it so bad we have a culture that is ours that we can celebrate? If you have never lived in a black household with at least one black parent you will understand where were coming from all the f&&king* time black people are put through hell this is something every black person relates you. Sorry if you can't handle that."
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*This word is fully spelled out in that comment in that YouTube discussion thread.

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17. jusadude
"Aww hell naw Chad Thompson. Keep your bland ass comments to yourself!!"

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18. Etchn Man
"Chad Thompson always that one racist who sees ppl laughing and having a good time in the comments and decides to try and shoot it down with what he THINKS is logic. "Black ppl are having fun and laughing at themselves?? Better throw racism at this!!"

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19. Nzuri Malkia
"@ZealousSoulz Like several european-Americans, they will not allow a person with Melanin Skin say, do or enjoy anything without their intrusive comments because they are offended or feel left out."

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20. Armoni Fields
"Chad Thompson the point wasn't whether or not you knew what they were talking about, but whether you could relate to or understand the joke/ the validity of it๐Ÿ˜‚nobody said anything about being better or superior in any way, just celebrating a few things that "make us black". Insecurities and negative stereotypes that we can laugh about because even though they don't put us in a positive light all the time, there's no need to automatically be on defense about it. Sometimes it's funny because it's true and if that doesn't apply to you then maybe you didn't really get the joke in the first place.๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ‘"

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21. Anthony C
"ZealousSoulz yet you can’t seem to grasp the fact that Egyptians weren’t black... and this isn’t an inside joke at all, literally everyone has heard of these retarded unfunny played out jokes"

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22. Edgerrin Ray Ray
"Anthony C you Lied about That First Part"

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23. Armoni Fields
"ZealousSoulz I see a lot of pressed folks in the comments๐Ÿ˜‚ if y'all didn't get what she was saying or don't agree you guys could've easily hit the dislike button and kept scrolling lol."

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24. Armoni Fields
"Anthony C Lmao who said anything about the Egyptians? Lol they don't have to be black. But this video was about black people. So what if Egyptians are white๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚everything is not about you guys so the fact that you had to bring that little tidbit into the conversation speaks volumes. You can happily go celebrate your own culture elsewhere. Nobody's stopping you lhh. You don't have to tear down one to celebrate another."

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25. ZealousSoulz
"Anthony C what do Egyptians have to do with what I said? ๐Ÿค” try again"

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26. Private
"Hey Zealous... I'm glad you're laughing, these jokes made me want to cry for America.

And "Chad Thompson," you are the loud stereotype that can't keep his mouth shut. LOL he doesn't even know it!"

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27. Aaron Verico1
"ZealousSoulz

Anthony C was just triggered by your avatar. Which there's nothing wrong with, because some ancient Egyptians did look like that. Black.
Anthony is big mad about that.
Oh well...if the truth hurts, let him learn to live with the pain. Lol.
๐Ÿ’๐Ÿ™…๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜Ž๐Ÿ‘Œ๐Ÿ’ฏ"

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28. AJ Anthony
"Typical that our culture happens to be SO amazing that you forget that y'all steal whatever you can get a grasp on, then cant keep your mouths shut about how well you "get it". These jokes were for BLACK FOLKS. Accept it."

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29. ZealousSoulz
"Armoni Fields I’m like.. was what I said that hurtful? Damn. White people so mad they showing they true colors."

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30. Donna-Shea McGee-Boyce
"I don’t know what is going on with all of these strange comments ???๐Ÿ˜ณ???
This skit had me laughing harder than I have in a while! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚ It is brilliant! The “potato salad” took it over the top for me!! I’ll be laughing at this for years! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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31. Monica W
" "But what about the whiiiiittteeee peeeopleeee" headass."

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32. Andre LaRue
"Damn. Youtube comments can go from happy to racist in 8 hours. Crazy."

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33. daniel hogan
"also people need to calm down...its a skit not a factual blueprint into the psyche of the african american lol i was laughing as soon as i saw the subjects especially the "white people" subject...yall need to smile more and stop complaining someone not from your backround might not fully understand you...to my side of the pond bangers and mash means sausages and mashed potatoes(gravy optional, but preferred)but to americans the name alone brings out nervousness yet dont know what dogging is... so when its brought up they just smile and nod, not realising the subject at hand is about public gangbanging/swinging...different cultures is all.. any african americans in the south wanna teach me how to make cornbread, fried chicken,potato salad whatever im down....sh&t* ill even bring karen along! lol
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*This word is fully spelled out in that comment in that YouTube discussion thread.

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34. DanKnowsGames
"Snicker Doodie man shut up all you whites think that “if whites did this people would be pissed” shut up already"

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35. Larry Koopa
"Giving the history of how not just black people but many people of color were treated maybe the best way to deal with it is with unification through comedy. Snicker Doodie you're already being insulting calling them the most sensitive, I'm assuming you would probably see someone of color unarmed and getting shot in front of you and would still find something wrong with that person. The black community has been divided and are attempting to heal the 300 year old wounds that have been caused. You sound like one of those bitter people who want to use the N word but can't."

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36. John Smith
"They made fun of themselves more than they did white people"

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37. Snicker Doodie
"LMFAO, there you go... it's the easiest way for someone to win an argument these days, just call them racist. You're assumption that I would find something wrong with an unarmed black person who got shot is false. I don't care what skin color they are, but you do. People like you would fail to see the obvious facts like, the guy pointed a cell phone at the cops like it was a gun... you don't care about those facts, you just stick to "unarmed black man shot by white cop".... don't bother with the important facts. You're such an idiot for saying that this video is uniting. The way you twist facts to fit your agenda clearly shows you're a liberal asshole. 300 year old wounds.... LMFAO!! I'm still dealing with my 80 year old wounds from the holocaust, give me a pass for racism and hostility towards police too."

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38. NecronomSlayer
"Snicker Doodie lol there’s nothing to be offend by. We made fun of ourselves more than we did white people. And it’s a funny stereotype not a negative one that can be turned racist and problematic(violence etc). The minute comedy becomes too sensitive it’s over for everyone. Like white people dont season LOL us blacks love us some chicken LOL tomato tomato"

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39. David Bellamy
"Snicker Doodie It's funny you would say that because this skit is primarily poking fun at black people and no riots are no one crying or asking for it to be removed and but soon as it makes fun of white people some people are offended. Just tell me where is the double standard. Oh I see you must think most black people really have their cable bill in there grandma name or only like well done steaks or we all love Sprite. Seems like you are more offended than you thought"

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40. Sarah D2
"Lolol!! The thread is hilarious. When did white men become so fragile? ๐Ÿคฃ
"But if white people did this you'll be mean"!!
Do y'all even know what you are crying about? Bloody potato salad! ๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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41. Deadass Timbs
"Sarah D2 These white people are angry because they want to partake in lampooning black people like they doing. If I was white, I would want to make fun of them too."

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42. Travis Hund
"Deadass Timbs I dont even like potatoe salad, you know damn well that's not the point."

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43. Diane Smith
"Would have been better if it wasn't so stereotypical, This doesn't represent Black Americans at all. It was almost cringeworthy to watch."

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44. Still Trollin No Ragrets
"My same thinking. These jokes keep black people under the thumb of their own victimization."

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45. JohndeBaptist
" "Its not racist when you have black people make black people look bad" -SNL"

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46. Still Trollin No Ragrets
"When will blacks rise above stereotypes?


When they choose to."

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47. exileayahika
"I love Black Jeopardy. And I'm Japanese, so I can laugh at myself. And I just think the concept is funny ๐Ÿ˜€"

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48. CD M
"I love how his answers sound like those upper class blacks from Atlanta and Dallas where their parents all have good jobs and big houses."

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49. Lil DaddyKK
"Is that a bad thing?"

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50. LUKE 1854
"Nope. But everyone should be able to laugh at themselves"

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51. Ian Kin
"But I'm happy because he actually was born in raised in the low country of South Carolina my state and area so that's not his voice that's a accent"

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52. Ian Kin
"And if he is from South Carolina he probably understands very well"

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53. Ian Kin
"Btw that's racist any black person can have a big house a nice job and still live in not so the famous cities"

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54. Elizabeth Home
"He sounds like every black children who raised by black parents of none African American."

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55. David Bellamy
"Snicker Doodie oh btw there is a white jeopardy it's called jeopardy"

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56. Melito T
"Why is it okay for black comedians and actors (who are being paid and directed by white people) to perpetuate stereotypes about black people in a joking way, but some black people lose it if anyone, not black, jokes about these same stereotypes?"

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57. Cookie_ ninja500
"Why can’t everyone just enjoy the video. It’s hilarious. Everyone needs to shut up and politics and enjoy life ๐Ÿคฆ‍♂️"

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58. hankakah
"There are some who complain that satirical comedy like this, enforces and upholds the stereotypes of what others think of blacks, but this is SNL, and if they didn't get the referral that T'challa was from Wakanda..that should be a hint. They should realize that these are black actors and actresses, making fun of black and fictional characters, black stereotypes, it is comedy. Some people treat it like it was Caucasians portraying blacks. Chill people!"

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This concludes this four part pancocojams series about the April 7, 2018 Saturday Night Live "Black Jeopardy" sketch.

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