Cheer Mom Dance Mom Videographer, Sep 25, 2023
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series about stomp and shake battle cheer encounters in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
This post also documents selected comments from the discussion threads for those YouTube videos. Although there some comments in those discussion threads that praised the cheerleaders, the focus in that compilation are examples of comments that are critical of these cheerleaders' performances. I'm sharing those examples as a means of documenting commenters' opinions about what they are looking for in stomp and shake cheer battles (ie. What makes a quality stomp and shake cheer battle and/or a stomp and shake cheer performance?)
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/02/longstanding-rivalries-between.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases one YouTube video of a 2024 cheer battle between two Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania community based stomp and shake cheerleader squads. This cheer battle was held outdoors and separate from any football game.
That post also includes my editor's notes* that provides some background about battle cheer encounters between stomp and shake cheerleaders from Garfield and from Homewood. Garfield and Homewood are two adjacent predominately Black neighborhoods in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania.
A 2008 foot stomping cheer that expresses the rivalry between those two Pittsburgh communities is also included in that post.
The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural, and recreational purposes.
Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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COMMENTS IN THIS PANCOCOJAMS POST
All of the comments for each video are given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies. Numbers have been assigned to these comments for referencing purposes only.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR SHOWCASE VIDEO #1
1. @sanaelewis2631, 2024
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2. @Divinee4, 2024
"And? It's not like they're high school cheerleaders"
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3. @coumbaamar, 2024
"@Divinee4 to be fair i’m a middle school cheerleader and we cheer like high schoolers (well the orginal team) it’s all on the coaches and cheer captain"
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4. @sanaelewis2631,2024
"@Divinee4 late but not being a high school cheerleader has nothing to do with this. Both are bad just in general. I bet money that their football team has more funds than their cheer teams and it’s pretty obvious. My MIDDLE school cheer team has 6th, 7th, and 8th graders and trust and believe we go against them it’s a done deal. Their coaches put absolutely no effort into their team and it shows. They’re sloppy, they strain their voices, and in general just horrible. The first two things I listed are easy fixes… but their coaches decided to not fix it and that’s on them 🤷♀️. But if they continue not teaching them the basics, then they’re going to look like a middle school cheer team forever.
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5. @itsyourgirlliyah334, 2024
"then y u here"
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6. @pr3ttyface_3rica, 2024
"What’s a mess about it?"
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7. @user-funny-gmoney, 2024
"@sanaelewis2631 and can u do better"
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8.@Lovelybabii, 2024
" @pr3ttyface_3rica the arms , motions , cheer voice no projection , singing the cheers , and the cheers are promoting violence!"
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9. @Mariah758, 2025
"I'm a middle schooler and I'm a captain of cheerleading team and my team is very flexible so what good"
10. @AleeyaAtkinshasgame, 2024
"Homewood won they ate and left no crumbs at all"
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11. @itsyourgirlliyah334, 2024
"fr"
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"fr"= "for real"
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13.@XamireahNelson, 2024
"@lacoyamcclary4391 right like the blue and orange ate uppppp"
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The cheerleaders wearing the blue and orange uniforms were from Garfield and not Homewood.
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14. @Lovelybabii, 2024
"They saying all these cheers with bent arms, noodle legs,
singing voices and all FIRE THE COACH !!"
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15. @Lovelybabii, 2024
"Not these cheers promoting violence!! The coach needs a
evaluation check these are kids they need to keep it cute yea the friendly
battle cheeers are coo but telling them to coke across the Poms is doing 3much
!!!"
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16. @Dirty-n2i, 2024
"It’s says step across not choke"
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17. @Lovelybabii, 2024
"@Dirty-n2i why would they step across the line so they
can fight them ???!!!?"
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18. @Dirty-n2i, 2024
"@ well yes but it’s not true they won’t fight as a
cheerleader I know this because it’s considered a battle cheer"
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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - Cheer Battle was real spicy 🌶️ Lady Dawgs vs Garfield Gators
Cheer Mom Dance Mom Videographer Aug 10, 2024
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR SHOWCASE VIDEO #2
1. @Skylar_channel, 2024
"Gator won spam 👇"
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2. @L0v3lii, 2024
"Frr"
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3. @wesnerroc1822, 2024
"Cap"
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"Cap"= [That's a] "lie"
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4. @L0v3lii,2024
"@wesnerroc1822 who still says “cap” "
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5. @L0v3lii, 2024
"@wesnerroc1822 and they did"
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6. @Superstar-oc4je, 2024
"@L0v3lii but they didn’t but ok.."
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7. @L0v3lii, 2024
"@Superstar-oc4je and who are u to say they didn't?"
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8. @Superstar-oc4je, 2024
"@L0v3lii my voice my choice like what?"
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9. @L0v3lii, 2024
" @Superstar-oc4je ok then my choice I think gators was just better literally just an opinion like what?"
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10. @Superstar-oc4je, 2024
"@L0v3lii exactly and it’s my opinion that they didn’t like what?"
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11. @L0v3lii, 2024
"@Superstar-oc4je ok so we have different opinions that sums it up we dont have to keep arguing over and over again"
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@ItsFavorRaree, 2025
"when they call out is calling, they need to stop yelling & project their voice. not very classy, not very mindful, not very lady like"
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I think this commenter is saying that when the person calling out (announcing) the cheer, that person needs to stop yelling and needs to project her voice (in the deeper voice that stomp and shake cheerleaders are known to use) even though it's not very classy, and not something cheerleaders traditionally have been taught to do (because ?) it's not very lady like.
Is this what you think this comment means?
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@urbanbrattie, 2025
"lady dawgs won some of the gators didn't effort"
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I think that "some of the gators didn't effort" means "some of the Gator cheerleaders didn't put forth the effort that they should have during that cheer battle.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 -Cheer Mom Dance Mom Videographer, Sep 17, 2024
Epic Cheer Battle #ladydawgs x #rebels
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR SHOWCASE VIDEO #3
1. @preciousfamakinde7962, 2024
"Blue team won
They are well coordinated"
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2. @reginachitwood9544, 2024
"Location plz"
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3. @Lifewitona-n8d, 2024
"Pittsburgh pa"
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4. @PaisleyWynn-b6g, 2024
"Blue team won like they give more"
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5. @ArtOfTufting, 2024
"Blue team won. They stayed loud the whole time, moves were sharp, all in coordination, and you could hear their words clearly."
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6. @Elijahispreppy, 2024
"Cheer isn’t about being clear cheer is for being loud,bamboozling the other team in words,harmony,etc get it right man!❤"
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"@ Sweetheart I coached a cheer team. A cheer team supports and represents their sports team in the best way possible. Moves should be sharp and everyone should be in coordination. “ Bamboozling” another team is only necessary when your called out for a cheer battle and/or want to distract the opponent (players). other then that you stay professional and do what you came to do, which is support your sports team."
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8. @Elijahispreppy, 2024
"@ I know this very well but k"
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9. @ArtOfTufting, 2024
"@Elijahispreppy No you don’t because you would also know that #1 Cheer is technically a sport. #2 there are also professional cheer teams. When cheerleaders are at practice they aren’t practicing just the words, being loud, and how to bamboozle another team. They’re practicing how to make their moves sharp, stay in coordination, and equally balancing their voices. Because in a bigger arena EVERYONE should hear that team which is why cheerleaders should be able to stay loud the whole time and speak their words clearly. Cheering in school is really a preparation for the next level of cheer. Now go look up a cheer practice and professional cheer teams so you can get a better understanding. ❤️"
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10. @Miraisverycool, 2024
"Art is correct"
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11. @ThatfinegirlKaykay, 2024
"They definitely won that battle but did they cuss in one of there cheers??"
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12. @xoxoluvv_lailaa, 2025
"@ThatfinegirlKaykay no, they didnt. when they WERE gonna say a cuss word, they bleeped it out by clapping"
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"I'm so glad my niece is not on team like these, this is not cheerleading at all it's a mess"
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14. @timothyjohnson2219, 2024
"The Blue team you can hear the words and the other girls they didn't even sound like when they're captains were calling the cheer"
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15. @Yogirlray00, 2024
"2:10 those toe touches were so bad legs were bent wasn’t high they didn’t even try"
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16. @lifeofsisterzz, 2024
"Probably cs they didn’t want to do it"
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17. @CourtneyMunoz-l3z, 2024
"those were very good dont hate we all know red and black did better"
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18. @Justdariyaaa, 2024
"@CourtneyMunoz-l3z blue and black definitely won"
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19. @CourtneyMunoz-l3z, 2024
"@Justdariyaaa no im just saying thye got more additude"
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20. @BIGSASSY7, 2024
"@CourtneyMunoz-l3z ye red might got more
Attitude but if you think about it I couldn’t hear anything they where saying"
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21. @amypapillion, 2025
"First of all yall need to stop fighting like yall still in elementary 😂 tf"
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22. @Yogirlray00, 2025
"@amypapillion I’m not"
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23. @amypapillion, 2025
" @Yogirlray00 I never said a specific name did i"
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24. @Niyah-j5y, 2025, 2025
"I know that age doesn’t matter but tbh I would say both teams won but more so the blue team because it looks like there older and have had like more control and a whole and it was like they were one person together on beat while the red team was trying there best but was like a little more sloppy but no hate both teams are fr"
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25. @michaelsandford1015, 2025
"It wasn't like this on those bring it on movies"
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26. @michaelsandford1015, 2025
"Why are they filming kids it was never like this on the
being it on movies"
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This concludes Part II of this pancocojams series.Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
I am an African American woman who has been a resident of the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania neighborhood of Garfield since 1971. Garfield is one of the Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania neighborhoods that is featured in these YouTube videos about Pittsburgh community based stomp and shake cheer battles.
ReplyDeleteAs a self-described community folklorist, I have been interested in documenting stomp & shake cheerleading since 2011 as evidenced by this sociological images post "Race And The Changing Shape Of Cheerleading" https://thesocietypages.org/socimages/2011/07/21/race-and-the-changing-shape-of-cheerleading/ and as evidenced by multiple posts on this pancocojams blog.
As a person who has studied stomp and shake cheerleading and as a long time resident of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, I feel called upon to state that I really don't like the type of battle cheering that is documenting in the videos that are showcased in this pancocojams series of battles between these elementary school & middle school community based cheer squads. I don't find the cheering to be aesthetically pleasing because I believe that it is much too confrontational and the movements aren't as skillfully done as I have seen performed (via YouTube videos) by middle and high school stomp and shake cheerleading squads, in North Carolina and in Virginia where stomp and shake cheerleading has been in the early 1970s. (Read this 2015 post "When Did Stomp & Shake Cheerleading Begin? (Online Comments & Website Statements)" https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/06/when-did-stomp-shake-cheerleading-begin.html.
I commend the members of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania stomp and shake squads and their coaches for devoting their time and energies to these activities. I hope that they continue to learn more about stomp and shake cheerleading and continue to improve how stomp and shake cheerleading is performed in Pittsburgh.