mountcalvarypb, August 22, 2010
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"Pb"= "Primitive Baptist" (a Christian denomination)
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases a YouTube video of a Sunday church service at Mount Calvary Primitive Baptist Church, Roanoke, Virginia.
Information about the Primitive Baptist denomination is included in this post along with selected comments from this video's discussion thread are also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for historical, religious, linguistic, and cultural purposes.
I'm particularly interested in documenting the use of the present tense African American Vernacular English word "sang" ("sangin" and other forms) that means "to sing very well, especially to sing soulfully very well".
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Mount Calvary Primitive Baptist Church and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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INFORMATION ABOUT THE PRIMITIVE BAPTIST DENOMINATION
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Primitive_Baptists
"Primitive Baptists – also known as Regular Baptists, Old School Baptists, Foot Washing Baptists, or, derisively, Hard Shell Baptists[2] – are conservative Baptists adhering to a degree of Calvinist beliefs who coalesced out of the controversy among Baptists in the early 19th century over the appropriateness of mission boards, tract societies, and temperance societies.[3][4] Primitive Baptists are a subset of the Calvinistic Baptist tradition.[1] The adjective "primitive" in the name is used in the sense of "original".[3]
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The official split between "Old School" and
"New School" Baptists occurred during a meeting at the Black Rock
Church on September 28, 1832 in Butler, MD. This became known as the Black Rock
Address.[7][8][9]
Primitive Baptist churches arose in the mountainous regions of the American South, where they are found in their greatest numbers.[10][11]
African-American Primitive Baptist groups have been considered a unique category of Primitive Baptist. Approximately 50,000 African Americans are affiliated with African-American Primitive Baptist churches as of 2005.[12] Approximately 64,000 people were affiliated (as of 1995) with Primitive Baptist churches in the various other emergences of Primitive Baptists.[12]
Since arising in the 19th century, the influence of
Primitive Baptists has waned as "Missionary Baptists became the
mainstream".[5]
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Distinct practices
Primitive Baptist practices that are distinguishable from
those of other Baptists include a cappella singing, family integrated worship,
and foot washing.
A cappella singing
Primitive Baptists generally do not play musical instruments
as part of their worship services.[16] They believe that all church music
should be a cappella because there is no New Testament command to play
instruments, but only to sing.[15] Further, they connect musical instruments in
the Old Testament with "many forms and customs, many types and shadows,
many priests with priestly robes, many sacrifices, festivals, tithings"
that they see as having been abolished; "had they been needed in the
church Christ would have brought them over".[15]
African-American Primitive Baptists may not share the general Primitive Baptist opposition to musical instruments, however.[17]"...
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
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2.@b4real2me, 2018
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3. @shantelroberts6371, 2019
4. @mzhollywood8978, 2019
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8. @ellerbe68, 2020
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11.!evelynf.harris-rayford983, 2020
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13. @skating43, 2021
"This is church!
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14. @msve5636, 2021
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16. @hermanalovesher7983, 2021
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21. @rosiedaboyz5072, 2021
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22. @tinahall-mcclain338, 2021
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26. @cocoa_bean_queen, 2021
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30. @marvagordon4312, 2021
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31. @karena4114, 2021
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33. CCH250, 2021
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35. @sisterstephanie7908, 2021
"I pray that when this second wave of COVID-19 passes and the
doors of the "real" Church opens again that God will bless me to find
a place to get some authentic "rib sticking" power! I'm through being
pushed around in the spirit because of the slow recovery from the hurts at the
hands of the alleged Saints."
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36. @brashajones7501, 2021
"This is what you called having church. I miss these days"
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39.@Susan-yq8pf, 2021
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44, @nnayahagadite3859, 2021
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48. @gaillove9726, 2021
"Yes this what God wants us to do, praise his Holy Name. But never
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54. @edwardthorpe2943, 2021
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55. bookitty1232000, 2021
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56. @leelawson1494, 2021
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61. @tigerwilson323, 2021
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70. @mamamattiemae854, 2024
71. @MrBIGTEE504, 2024
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73. @drucella5581, 2024
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76.@sherleengibson8847, 2024
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Here's a comment exchange about certain (African American) Primitive Baptist Churches having musical instruments as part of their worship services.
ReplyDelete(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJBTHixGQ8A Look Where He Brought Me From, published by KATHY PHELPS, Apr 28, 2011
Easter Sunday 2011 Mt. Carmel Primitive Baptist Church, Ideal, GA
1. @SuperDean516, 2015
"I have a question can Primitive Baptist use tambourines?"
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2. @badexter1, 2015
"SuperDean516 Hi..now the city Primitive Baptists here in FL in Tampa and Miami DO use instruments:Tamvourines, Piano, Organ, Guitar,Drums and have CHoirs, Mass Choirs just like the other African American Baptist churches and ALSO have this type of singing as well. They observe Footwashing at The Lord's Supper and that is what makes them PB but they DO use instruments. I only recently found out that some rural PB do not,,they are different kinds of Primitive Baptists..thanks..BD"
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3. @minfixit, 2021
"My understanding is the difference between Primitive Baptist v. Progressive Primitive Baptist. Progressive Primitive allow use of instruments."