Meidas Touch, August 12, 2024
MeidasTouch host Ben Meiselas reports on Donald Trump’s disastrous interview with Elon Musk where Trump slurred his words and appears to be in steep cognitive decline.
This pancocojams post showcases a Meidas Touch podcast of former United States President and 2024 Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump's livestreamed Twitter interview with businessman and investor Elon Musk. That podcast includes sound file examples from that Twitter interview.
This post also presents an excerpt of the auto-generated transcript of the August 13, 2024 video of the political podcast ResistanceLive. That excerpt provides an alternative explanation for Donald Trump's slurring words and other mispronunciations during that Twitter interview rather than him not wearing his dentures.
In addition, this pancocojams post also presents some general comments about that interview from the discussion threads of that MeidasTouch podcast and six other political podcasts.
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TRANSCRIPT EXCERPT
This transcript excerpt includes my addition of punctuation and capitalizations. This transcript excerpt also includes my explanations in brackets.
transcript excerpt from 0.33- to around 6:00 from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pgFx4aWFsEo&t=6s "Trump/Musk Interview Packed with SLURRING NONSENSE, and More
Rs Go BLUE | #ResistanceLive" ,published by ResistanceLive, August 13, 2024
..."welcome to ResistanceLive it's ECM. [Elizabeth Cronise McLaughlin]. It is the 13th
of August 2024 and I'm really glad you're here. Um, woo, we have had just like a
nonsense uh type of event last night which we're going to talk about, uh. briefly. And, um, we've got a lot more to talk about with the looming DNC and a bunch of other
developments in the last 24 hours.
[ECM gives a description of herself and the room that she is in for visually challenged listeners]
I'm, like, stoked that you're here today. So thank you for joining. Okay, so first things first. Um, and I'm gonna freely admit that I did not listen to this
live [Twitter interview with Trump and Musk] because I just didn't have the bandwidth. And it doesn't sound like I missed much. I mean, I
will say I listened to some snippets after the fact and some highlights. But, for those who were not present, um, and have
not followed the aftermath of this [Twitter interview], there was an absolute [no word given].
As you all saw from
the thumbnail, today's show relates to Elon Musk and Donald Trump's [interview] ,uh, last night
on Twitter (which I refuse to call "X"). And, uh, apparently, first of all there were
enormous technical difficulties because, you know, the whole platform has no engineers anymore. Um, it was not a
DDOS attack as Elon Musk represented. And even someone on his own staff said there was a 9% chance that he was
lying after he claimed that. But they couldn't get it to work technologically. And then once they did, the entire
interview was a freaking mess.
I know that a lot of us have been watching the very rapid decline of Donald Trump both in
terms of his logic and his speech and his apparent, you know, decompensation narcissistic outbursts in public. Last night
had all of the above.
And I do want to point out that you know we [ResistanceLive] are a conspiracy
theory free zone here. I always have to say this. Um, I do not entertain the
random speculation that he was on Adderall or, you know, all this other nonsense
that certain people seem to want to claim every time he acts out. I personally actually think that that kind of stuff
takes away from the very obvious pathology related to his narcissistic
sociopathy.
Um, you know, one of the things I want people to just be aware
of here is that we have seen indications of aphasia which of course, for those of you who are aware- you maybe you
follow pop culture- you know that [actor] Bruce Willis was diagnosed with this several years ago and he now no longer can speak- this is a form of or rather symptomology of a form of dementia. Last night Donald Trump was slurring his words he
seemed to be struggling very very much so with S's. And if you listen to the audio from it it's very very
noticeable from the very beginning that there were certain words that he just simply
couldn't pronounce, things that he couldn't find words for.
And I have to say that I also think that this is not the
moment to be claiming that this was an issue with like quote unquote "dentures" or something else like. This is
actually consistent with a declination of speech pattern that we've seen since his days in the White House. There were moments
where he could not pronounce the word the words "United States", um, even when he was in office. And it has gotten
substantially worse than that since he left office. And one of the reasons why I think
it's very important that we're cautious about how we talk about this is that, uh, one of the things that makes it easier
for people to understand what's going on here is for folks to get a basic
education about the way in which dementia can appear in terms of symptomology
and also the way in which it intersects with his narcissism. And that's one of the reasons why here [on this ResistanceLive podcast] we've been
spending a lot of time over the past like almost eight years now talking about what narcissistic psychopathology looks like both in terms of how it manifests in his behavior and also
how it might manifest in his logic. And then also we have, you know, spent a lot of time here
discussing um the issues
potentially related to dementia and what the indications are there.
Now I always
have to point out I'm not a psychological professional. I just have an enormous
really abundant trauma history with narcissists. Um, but also you know there are
plenty of people out there who are credential doctors who have pointed out that his [Trump's] speech patterns- in the last couple
of years in particular- indicate some form of a larger issue. And so, um, I have, um,- yes and somebody [in the ResistanceLive podcast chat] is pointing this out here as well- you know
dysarthria is (and this is correct is the slurring of phasia) [is] the loss of language. But the two of those things can go together
when dementia is present. And I did research on this last night because I was really curious about it myself while I
was listening to the footage [of the Trump/Musk Twitter interview.]
Um, and so again, you know, please remember, like please remember that when we minimize what we
are seeing with our own eyes and ears, when we refer to it as, like, you know, "an
issue of his dentures not fitting well" without proof, um one of the things that we're doing is we're taking away from the
seriousness of the situation. Right, we don't want to normalize not only his
obvious ongoing mental collapse but also the way in which what we're seeing
and hearing reflect on our views of the political lay of the land"...
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT DONALD TRUMP'S AND ELON MUSK'S LIVESTREAM TWITTER INTERVIEW (AUGUST 12, 2024)
These online sources are given in no particular order. These podcasts and the selected comments from their discussion threads and are numbered for referencing purposes only.
DISCUSSION THREAD #1 From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqaUMnGG5VM "SLURRING Trump Makes FOOL OF HIMSELF in Elon Interview" Meidas Touch,August 12, 2024 [This is the video that is embedded in this pancocojams post.]
1. @belindaperal1061, August 12, 2024 "Trump talks over Musk the entire conversation! He cannot shut up. The only time he gave pause was when he asked Musk if he would be getting paid for this interview! Unbelievable!"
** 11. @homelessballoon,August 13, 2024 "The bigger fool here is Elon Musk who is agreeing and saying «yes» whatever Donald Trump is saying. What is his motivation for being Trump’s best, loyal friend? The love of easy money? "
**** DISCUSSION THREAD #2 From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n300ApsW40w "Trump’s SALIVA FILLED RANT Leaves Elon Musk GAGGING" published by Adam Mockler, August 12, 2024
Adam Mockler with MeidasTouch breaks down Donald Trump being interviewed by Elon Musk live. 1 @janmaly4635,August 12, 2024 "Weird, he does sound like his dentures are missing!! "
"Sad, sad interview. He did himself no favors Oh well vote "
** 6. @kelst75, August 12, 2024 "This was not a conversation. This was just Trump rambling, with minimal input from Elon(which was pointless)."
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DISCUSSION THREAD #3
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcJLfN6sf60 "Elon Musk BLOWS Big Trump Interview! Trump Can't Form Coherent Sentence! | Bulwark Reacts" published by The Bulwark, August 12, 2024
Tim Miller, Sam Stein, and Marc Caputo recap Donald Trump's ranting conversation with sleepy, uninterested Elon Musk.
1.@debraasher1752, August 12, 2024 "That's 2 hours of your life you will never get back ️" ** 2. @johnmartin7158, August 13, 2024 "Not an interview, Trump just rambled and slurred.
** 3. @jayward8237, August 13, 2024 "I don’t know how you can listen to him slur his words, rambling speech, & incoherent thoughts & think yes he should be President." ** 4. @Jlee-turn, August 13, 2024 "This "interview" = another nail in the coffin. His candidacy is dying."
** 5. @antuskydancer9728, August 12, 2024 "Oh wow, I read on Reddit people saying he sounded like Daffy Duck, but to hear it.... Yeah, he's increasingly unwell." ** 6. @LynnnnnnnnN, August 13, 2024 "You guys are being very generous. He sounded like he forgot to put his teeth back in. I haven't laughed this hard in a long time. That's the weakest he's ever sounded. He's just humiliating himself at this point and I'm here for it "
** 7. @LuciDefluff,August 13, 2024 "This nonsense talk from Elon and Trump is gold for the Harris campaign."
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DISCUSSION THREAD #4
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVSxgLNkcYs "Slurring Trump Tried Hiding THIS During Livestream... I CAUGHT It" published by Keith Edwards, August 13, 2024
1. @Sherry-mi7zr, August 13, 2024
"I couldn’t listen to the entire thing, two rich men doing nothing but stroking each others egos…Trump was slurring, low energy, and on constant repeat of all his greatest hits. Im interested in seeing how the media will play this one off…"
** 2. @MichaelSplatkins,August 13, 2024 "An hour late... Did he attack Musk for having crappy audio like he did NABJ? Or was that just reserved for black women who had his number?" -snip- "An hour late" refers to the fact that this livestreamTwitter interview started one hour late.
1. @michaelrobinson1905, August 13, 2024
"Elon was trying so hard, but ineptly to lead Trump. It was obvious so many times that Trump had no idea what he was talking about."
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6. @lab4389, August 13, 2024 "All Elon does is say "yeah." Two malignant narcissists. Sickening."
** 13. @user-pg1hw3kk3k, August 13, 2024 "He actually sounds like he took his false teeth out. Or he's doing an impression of Sylvester the cat from the tweety bird cartoons. Vote blue so we can get some real work done in this country!!"
Political commentator Jack Cocchiarella reacts to Donald
Trump being mocked by Kamala Harris after his disaster interview with Elon
Musk.
"I did not listen to it and I have been seeking some feedback
concerning this Musk and Trump meet up. Thank you for for this video."
Reply
2. @G
"It was the ramblings of a confused resentful and angry old
man.
Talking points went in circles and brought me back to when i worked in a care home for the elderly."
3.
"Elon Musk just saying "yeah," and "yes,"
to whatever ramblings fell out of Trumps mouth, no matter how ridiculous Trump
was. Like Trump saying the magazine cover of Kamala Harris, a black/Asian woman
, looked like Melania. "Yeah," said Musk ...."
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4. @nickiv.o.1215, August 13, 2024
"This is a coup? That’s rich, coming from the man who actually attempted a coup!"
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5. @STUDD_Music,August 13, 2024
" "The biggest threat isn’t GLOBAL warming, it’s NUCLEAR warming” Donald, WHAT??????"
"The Emperor Has No Clothes! Finally. People are waking up."
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9. @skinskink,August 13, 2024
"don't forget to bring your teeth to the debate vote blue "
10. @puppybasket3906, August 13, 2024
"I called that. Knew it was going to be a rain wreck but even I was shocked by how bad it was. Put your dentures in grandpa Donnie. Also I want him to explain in detail with scientific receipts what Nuclear Warming is."
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12. @badkarma65, August 13, 2024
"every time trump opens he's mouth Harris and Walz are one day closer to being President and Vice President of the United States of America. By all means let him speak."
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DISCUSSION THREAD #7
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZQB-i8kM54 "Why didn't he leave his teeth in?"
published by PoliticalSis, August 12, 2024
1.@DidiWaDidi,August 13, 2024
"They told him to stop lying through his teeth.
Reply
2. @jhhjams1234, August 13, 2024
"OMG!!! Thank you needed that "
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3. @estellej705,August 13, 2024
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Have you come across any mainstream media (newspapers or television channels) that refer to Donald Trump slurring his words, having difficulty pronouncing words beginning with the letter "s", and/or talking with a lisp?
ReplyDeleteAn African American woman podcaster TabithaSpeaksPolitics published one of her brief podcasts about this subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phy8qQT6haY "Donald Trump Speaks With A Lisp And Slurs His Words During His Interview With Elon Musk!!",TabithaSpeaksPolitics,August 13, 2024
Here's one of the comments from that podcast's discussion thread:
@Thenexusultimate,August 13, 2024
"Thank you Tabitha nobody talking about his Lisp in the main stream media, I think he is wearing dentures or something, or maybe , he has small stroke they kept it hidden from the public."