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Saturday, May 18, 2024

Some Comments From Black People About Ann Coulter's "I'd Never Vote For An Indian" Statement And Her Statement About "WASPs" On Vivek Ramaswamy's Podcast



Reese Waters, May 14, 2024
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Read Summary #1 below for the summary of this podcast. 

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a pancocojams series about statements that Ann Coulter made to Vivek Ramaswamy in her May 2024 appearance on his "Truth" podcast.*

This post showcases a podcast clip about the comments that Ann Coulter made to Vivek Ramaswamy in her May 2024 appearance on his podcast. 

This post also presents examples of summary statements from several African American hosted podcasts on this subject as well as selected comments from Black people from two podcast on this subject that are hosted by Black people. As is the case with many archived comments in pancocojams post, it's not just what the commenters said, but how they said it (for instance,  their use of African American Vernacular English words and grammar.) 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/05/a-few-comments-from-indians-about-ann.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post presents a few comments from commenters who identified themselves as Indians.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are associated with this embedded podcast clip and thanks to all those who are quoted in these podcast summary statements and in this post's section on selected comments.
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*This pancocojams series shouldn't be interpreted as implying that only Black  people or people of Indian descent wrote on YouTube discussion threads about this subject about  Ann Coulter's statements to Vivek Ramaswamy.

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BACKGROUND -WHO IS ANN COULTER AND WHO IS VIVEK RAMASWAMY?
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ann_Coulter
"Ann Hart Coulter ...born December 8, 1961) is an American conservative media pundit, author, syndicated columnist, and lawyer. She became known as a media pundit in the late 1990s, appearing in print and on cable news as an outspoken critic of the Clinton administration. Her first book concerned the impeachment of Bill Clinton and sprang from her experience writing legal briefs for Paula Jones's attorneys, as well as columns she wrote about the cases.[2] Coulter's syndicated column for Universal Press Syndicate appears in newspapers and is featured on conservative websites. Coulter has also written 13 books.[3]

Early life
Ann Hart Coulter was born on December 8, 1961,[4] in New York City, to John Vincent Coulter (1926–2008), an FBI agent from a working class Catholic Irish American and German American family[5] in Albany, New York, and Nell Husbands Coulter (née Martin; 1928–2009), who was born in Paducah, Kentucky."...

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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vivek_Ramaswamy
 Vivek Ganapathy Ramaswamy ... born August 9, 1985) is an American entrepreneur and politician. He founded Roivant Sciences, a pharmaceutical company, in 2014. In February 2023, Ramaswamy declared his candidacy for the Republican Party nomination in the 2024 United States presidential election. He suspended his campaign in January 2024, after finishing fourth in the Iowa caucuses.[3]

Ramaswamy was born in Cincinnati to Indian immigrant parents. He graduated from Harvard College with a bachelor's degree in biology and later earned a law degree from Yale Law School. Ramaswamy worked as an investment partner at a hedge fund before founding Roivant Sciences. He also co-founded an investment firm, Strive Asset Management."...
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Cincinnati is a city in the state of Ohio.

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THREE EXAMPLES OF SUMMARY STATEMENTS FROM AFRICAN AMERICAN PODCASTS  ABOUT ANN COULTER'S COMMENTS ON VIVEK RAMASWAMY'S PODCAST

Pancocojams Editor's Note: These summary statements from African American podcasts that covered this subject are only a small sample of the African American podcasts about this subject. 

These summary statements are given in no particular order and are numbered for references purposes only.

Podcast Summary Statement #1 [This is the summary statement for the video that is given at the top of this pancocojams post.]

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH7wSl2dvcw "Coulter is When Racism Doesn't Dress Up in Public", published by Reese Waters, May 14, 2024  #anncoulter #vivekramaswamy

"Conservative author and commentator Ann Coulter told former Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy that she would not back him for the GOP nomination because “you’re an Indian.” Because of course she did. She's Ann Coulter. On Vivek Ramaswamy's podcast released Wednesday, the pair spoke about nationalism and the basis of American identity.

“I agreed with many many things you said during — in fact, probably more than most other candidates — when you were running for president, but I still would not have voted for you, because you’re an Indian,” she said.

When challenged, eventually, by Ramaswamy, Coulter then said she would only vote for candidates who are WASPs — White Anglo-Saxon Protestants.#anncoulter #vivekramaswamy #racism"

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Podcast Summary Statement #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgIhBjC9jqk "Ann Coulter Makes RACIST Comment Against Vivek Ramaswamy!" published by Marc Lamont Hill, May 11, 2024

"Right-wing commentator Ann Coulter sparked controversy during a conversation with ex-GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy. In a video capturing the exchange, Coulter bluntly expressed that she wouldn't have voted for Ramaswamy due to his Indian heritage.

During their discussion on Ramaswamy's "Truth" podcast, Coulter unabashedly stated her stance, asserting that despite agreeing with many of Ramaswamy's viewpoints, his ethnicity would have deterred her vote. She went further, articulating a belief in a core national identity centered around the acronym WASP (White Anglo-Saxon Protestant), suggesting that individuals outside of this demographic are somehow peripheral to the nation's values."

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Podcast Summary Statement #3
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcsIU5orXXM&t=36s "VIVEK RAMASWAMY: Now What Did We Learn??? Ann Coulter Said Not So Fast... Race & U.S. Politics", published by Calvin Michaels, May 11, 2024  #anncoulter #vivekramaswamy #Race

"The thought of inviting an openly racist public figure on your platform and thinking you had any leverage with them.  Every now and then for some folks reality sets in and becomes a painful pill to swallow.  Sadly Vivek will still indulge in the same foolery for his come up.

Now let's see how many people dance around what was said by Ann Coulter."

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM BLACK PEOPLE ABOUT THIS SUBJECT 

Pancocojams Editor's Note:
These comments are from discussion threads for two YouTube podcasts that are hosted by African Americans. There are a number of other YouTube podcast (hosted by Black people and by non-Black people)  about Ann Coulter's statements on Vivek Ramaswamy's podcast. My selection of these two podcasts and their discussion threads was somewhat random.

These selected comments are only a small sample of similar comments from those discussion threads. 

The two sources for these selected comments are given in no particular order and are numbered for references purposes only. All of these comments are from May 2024.


SOURCE #1
[Pancocojams Editor's Note: These comments are from the podcast that is embedded at the top of this pancocojams post.]

1. 
@mixteleAzul
"Welcome Vivek to the only country that has no racism, according to you Vivek"

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2.@
fge00
"The killer is Vivek showed up like a neutered dog at court behind Donald Trump.  He's like that pet chicken who doesn't realize he's dinner later."

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@reesewaters
"He sure nuff did smh ️"

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4.@stacywacy4995
"I laughed at that analogy! You are correct.  All that money and self-proclaimed intelligence, and he will never be a WASP."

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5. 
@nancyx6390
"Isn't it unbelievable!! He sat there like a deer in headlights"

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6. @Summerlove0763
"Lmao.. You are absolutely correct."

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7. @texasflower1212
"@madmarvdesigns  So true! Usually, he never shuts up and talks over people. He was acting like he was scared!"

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8. @william58295
"Anything for massa!"

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9. @TYRONE-kh9zn
"Stop it according to Vivek & folks like him racism doesn't exist so how can he be suffering from racism aimed at him before & after ole girl in this vid?"

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10. @rokrok60
"Byron Donalds showed up with his shoeshine kit too."

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11. @longskyhook4917
"She hates him , while they both hate us."

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12. @Katafro-Boricua
"Consider that a badge of honor to have their hatred."

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13, 
@cliveklg7739
"He doesn't call her out directly on her overt racism, he's spineless, he danced around it without calling it exactly what it is.   But he can't call her out on her racism because then he'd have to call out all racism, and couldn't sell him self to the GOP base which is full of racists."

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14. @carolharris2401
"The problem with people Vivek they think they can break bread with racist who hate blacks but its OK because he is of Indian decent the model minority so he is fine. That's why he laughed at the beginning of her racism against blacks but is stunned when it comes back on him"

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15. @mildredpierce4506
"Ann needs to have a sit down with Candace Owens"

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16. @tulsacaupain2882
"Candace will never. She knows she will be viveked."

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17. @charlesasmith7836
"Lol"

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18. @stacywacy4995
"I thought Candace Owens,  Tim Scott,  Larry Elder, Jason Whitlock, Byron Donalds. I need to see video of each little chat."

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19. @kimclark1352
"Would love to see that"

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20. @miguelramirez6352
"And Tim Scott, and justice Thomas and so on..."

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SOURCE #2
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpOCwXUuqqg&t=86s "A
nn Coulter Says She Wouldn’t Vote For Vivek Ramaswamy ‘Because He's Indian' ", published by Breakfast Club Power 105.1 FM,   May 10, 2024  #BreakfastClub

1. @hotinkmediaadvertisingcomm1901
"Vivek needed to hear that. A lot of Indians think like him, they have white supremacist views on people of color too"

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2. @blove88
"Which is ironic given how most of them aren't more than a few shades from us."

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3. @theexplorer7139
"So true. It’s really sad."

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4. @blove88
"Alot of times darker."

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5. @kowhenry4188
"Jokes on Vivek, he thinks he has  money so he is different untill they say the quiet part loud...."

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6. @Shayzare
"Money doesn't change your skin and ethnicity. Oj learned the hard way, Vivek you gonna Learn today Boi!"

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7. @KenneJ-bu7rr
"Vivek is trying to get in where he don't fit in."

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8. @JT-ef2qy
"Facts I see it every day as a black man in finance who works with Indians, who think they’re white!"

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9. @gabriellehanks6850
"Welp, Vivek thought calling Juneteenth a useless holiday and saying Black Americans don't deserve reparations would get a lifelong invite to the club... Acess denied"

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10. @leiflynch2162
"Vivek just has realized that he is not welcomed in their club... Stop trying to be places where you aren't wanted or respected..."

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11. @donmacmilly
"Vivek thought he can joke about the "N word" in that interview and laughed at the "articulate black" comment, but her saying she wouldn't vote for him being Indian had me laughing"

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12. @jinthehouse3210
"It's interesting because Charla tried to tell Vivek the reason why he wouldn't be selected, and he told Charla that he was wrong, but wouldn't an African American know better than him about systemic racism in America. It's crazy that other cultures think they know more than African Americans about the culture of this country. I guess Vivek had to learn the hard way."
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"Charla" = Charlamagne tha God, one of the host on "The Breakfast Club".

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13. 
@DaRunningMan
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You talk as if there are no black people that think like Vivek. There is such a thing as black republicans and they all think the same way."

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14. 
@ingridsk1359
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Candace Owen  the first one comes to mind​@DaRunningMan"

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15. @willjohn4286
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She kept that racism flag flying. She kept it . Like they don’t rock  with you bro open your eyes"

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16. 
@rocked30
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Honestly he wasn’t shocked by any of this.  I remember his wife did a sit down in a diner with voters and this one woman told his wife that her friends said they wouldn’t vote for him because of his racial background even though they liked his policies."

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17. 
@ThePumpin1
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But I think he had to hear it again to drive the point home."

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18. 
@Lenasevilla-yb4ei
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Him sitting up there skinning and grinning while she insults him has me screaming . What a sucka."

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19. @KenneJ-bu7rr
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In my Fred Sanford voice aiming at Vivek, You big dummy ."

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20. @SB-iz8sz
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A multimillionaire too.  He could be  out  there sailing but  invites a known racist on his show called “Truth”  he probably made more money cos of this."

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21. @
edantes2008
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She virtually spit on this man, and he acts like its rain."

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22.
@dannyvalentino328
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Actually, he was grinning and laughing when Ann insulted African Americans with the "articulate" comment, then went all serious and silent when she turned the racism right back at him."

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23. @aphillyate1
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The best part of the clip is watching Vivook's shining grin slowly being wiped from his face on his own show. Priceless!"

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24. 
@jay55148
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Viv learnt the hard way but the sad part is he still will be the house slave for them."

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25. @madadisr
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And running as a democrat somehow makes him not a house slave?"

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26. 
@theexplorer7139
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@madadisr First of all, be quiet. Second of all, both sides are bad; it’s just that the right do NOT condemn racism, they embrace it."

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27. @Shayzare
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You got to love her honesty though. Better than the ones who smile in your face."

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28. 
@gabrieldaniels6191
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 @JT-ef2qy they let the honorary white stuff go to their heads"

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29.@waynepalmer8598
"Vivek thought he had a seat at the table until he was told nah brownie you got to come in through the back door!"

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30. 
@Texa8
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Why u hating on Vivek, he's literally the target of racism. And if you saw the whole thing you'd agree that he handled her with class"

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@aphillyate
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@Texa8  I hate on Vivook cuz he laughed at and joined with her anti-black racism but he was suddenly visibly offended when she aimed for him and his ppl. And now he cannot ever say again that he's never experienced racism from the GOP when we have video."

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32. 
@neverlast2810
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@aphillyate1  She was repeating a Joe Biden line about Obama that he was the first main stream African-American man that was clean and articulate. So I presume Vivek initially thought she was joking then realised she actually believed it and was a racist"

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33. 
@ThisCharmingMan35
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Priceless.  Lol.

She emasculated this dude on his own show. And he had to sit there and take it."

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34. 
@KaeMaiden
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@neverlast2810 No. It wasn't Biden's line because she goes on to say "You know we can't say that about the American Blacks"...and he laughed heartily at that joke."

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35. 
@childeroland2569
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Ann saying the not quite quiet part out loud."

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36. 
@phillipsosa3353
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I’m dead, the way she voluntarily gave her reason without him even asking “and why wouldn’t you vote for me”"

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37. 
@jvellkarine3311
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Privilege"

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38.
@Dee038
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She came in hot! I didn’t even have a chance to put cream in my coffee!!"

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39. 
@marcust-kq4cv
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@Dee038 it was on her mind all night. She had to let him know"

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40. 
@keithgupton9349
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I guess Ann Coulter made it clear to Vivek rhymes with fake that he didn't earn his Caucasian Card."

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41. 
@josephgreene4174
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That he can't and never will earn in, steal it, get it"

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42. @KenneJ-bu7rr
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Vivek is trying to be Caucasian but failed."

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43. 
@donmacmilly
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Uncle Apu from the Simpson got his wake up call lol."

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44. 
@lof7845
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He got his curry wake up call…"

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45. 
@Victoria_15
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Lmaooo"

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46. @danp7304
"the mad part about it is, them people love them people they actually wanna be them.. the lighter the better" ️

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47. 
@HJay-ln3xy
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Lmao little [anchor emoji]️-baby Vivek was smiling and grinning when she was taking shots at us Black Americans but the second she let him know how she(pretty much all YT conservatives and a lot of YT liberals too) felt about him and his people, that grin turned to a scowl. Absolutely hilarious and I actually respect Ann for keeping it 100"

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48. 
@jamaltalbert1015
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He got his wake up call and still in a coma'

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49.@pmwiky
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So, in her own words, she's saying it's not about the content of his character. She's fine with that and what he stands for. it's his skin color she can't stand...wow"

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50. 
@blove88
"...no matter how hard you try to switch, here's what they think about you." -Ice Cube"

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51.
@kiz5562
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Makes me mad when I see folks like Bryon donalds and Ben carson tapdancing for the GOP, yet these dudes will never fully be accepted."

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52.
@emzywillrich7243
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Vivek finally got his WOKE moment!!  Yay!!  Now, I can read his book, WOKE.  Didn't Vivek know that you can't buy a racist's acceptance?  People that love you do and those that don't don't."

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53.
@michaelmoorer1088
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If anyone knows ann coulter this is nothing new she has been saying this stuff in her books for 25 years"

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54. 
@czogg99
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Not because he is Indian….. But because HE IS AN INDIAN .

. He finally got his curry moment handed to him" ** 55. @malcolmblack4099
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When Ann Coulter was talking slick about Black people, Vivek sat up their grinning and smiling, but when she told him that she would not vote for him because of his race that sour look on his face was satisfaction for me.

Those chickens came home to roost and he got his wake up call."

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56. @petekayyceclosedduncan2077
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I love when REALITY comes back and SMACKS PPL LIKE Vivek, Candace Owens, Larry Elder, Nikki Haley, and soon... Tim Scott, Byron Donaldson, that goof Jason Whitlock,etc..lol

** 57. @hurdyb1
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Damn, she said it with ZERO hesitation then explained it. DAMN! Racism is alive and well."

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58.
@CB-hn6ei

"He sat there and took it like the pick me that he is. I believe he went on to thank her. He deserved that public humiliation. Please let Candice get hers."

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59. @keith7200

"It's the same way they feel about nikki haley, tryin to pass for white, you're not gettin in the club."

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60. @thatshim4724
"He just got his non white wake up call……

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61. 
@MonteCWright
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My mother often tell me to “go where you’re celebrated and not tolerated” so I can avoid looking like Vivek! Don’t ever try to appease or pander to anyone The guy that tried to play Blacks by saying “ reverse racism is still racism” at every stop just experienced overt racism. I’m moving on with my day!"

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62. 
@theexplorer7139
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Words of wisdom by your mother. Thank you for that."

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