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Tuesday, May 14, 2024

North West's Rap "Miss Westie" In Kanye West's Song "Talking" Includes A Sample Of The Stomp & Shake Cheer "You Don't Have No Problems, You Just Talk Like You Do"



Covered Truth,  Feb. 7, 2024

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases Kanye West's ten year old daughter North West's rap in his 2024 song "Talking". North West's portion of that record, entitled "Miss Westie", includes a recurring sample of a cheerleader saying "You don't want no problems". That sample is from a Stomp & Shake video entitled "You Don't Want Any Problems You Just Talk Like You Do" that was published by BlkCheerMomTV in April 2023 as a Youtube short and as a YouTube video.

This pancocojams post includes the lyrics for North West's "Miss Westie" song as well as the YouTube video of that Stomp & Shake cheer and the words to that cheer. Selected comments from the YouTube discussion thread for that cheer are also included in this post.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to North West and thanks to all of those who are featured in that recording and thanks to all those who are associated with that recording and these showcased videos. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/05/overview-of-stomp-shake-cheerleading.html 
for an overview about "Stomp & Shake cheerleading.

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INFORMATION ABOUT "MISS WESTIE"
From https://genius.com/Kanye-west-and-ty-dolla-sign-talking-lyrics [retrieved May 13, 2024]
" “Talking / Once Again” is a two-part track and is North West’s musical debut, released on February 7, 2024, as track 13 of Vultures Volume 1. The first part of the song has background vocals by James Blake.* The music video was released on February 7, 2024.

The song was first performed in its entirety on December 12, 2023, at the Vultures Rave in Miami, Florida.

[...]

“TALKING” debuted and peaked at #30 on the Billboard Hot 100 for the chart week ending February 24, 2024.
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*Correction- James Blake is the producer of that portion of that video and isn't the voice of the person chanting the line "You don't want no problem"...

The recurring line “You don’t want no problems, you just"... is chanted by the African American cheerleader in the very beginning of that high school Stomp & Shake cheer. 

These words are chanted in a YouTube video sort/YouTube video (published by BlkCheerMomTV) in 2022 and 2023) of a mostly African American high school cheerleading squad. The African American female cheerleader (who I presume is the cheer captain) introduces this cheer by saying t hat line. That cheerleader is standing on the right hand side of the front row (as seen on my computer screen). Unfortunately, I've not been able to find any identifying about for that cheerleader or that cheerleading team. Also, as of this date (May 14, 2024), none of comments in those videos' discussion threads and in the discussion thread of another YouTube video of that same cheer ask for that identifying information.

For the historical record, if you know this cheerleader's name, and/or the name of  this cheerleading team's name, and/or the name of the high school and its location, please share that information in the comment section for this pancocojams post. Thanks! 

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INFORMATION ABOUT KANYE WEST'S SONG "TALKING"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talking_/_Once_Again (retrieved May 13, 2024) 
" "Talking" (stylized in uppercase, single version initially titled "Talking / Once Again") is a song by the American hip hop supergroup ¥$, composed of rapper Kanye West and singer Ty Dolla Sign, featuring West's daughter North. It was first released as a promotional track on February 7, 2024, exclusively on Instagram, YouTube, and X. The song was later released on streaming services on February 8 as the second single from the duo's collaborative album Vultures 1 (2024). The song was written by West and his daughter North, along with Ty Dolla Sign, CyHi, Chicagoan singer and songwriter Mamii, Quentin Miller and frequent collaborator Ant Clemons. It was produced by West alongside No I.D., Swizz Beatz,[citation needed] James Blake, DJ Camper and Edsclusive.

Background and release

"Talking / Once Again" was previewed for the first time at the "Vultures Rave" event in December 2023.[1] Kanye West officially released the song alongside its music video on February 7, 2024.[2]"...
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This Wikipedia page doesn't mention that a YouTube video or YouTube video short sample of the Stomp & Shake cheer "You Don't Want No Problem. You Just Talk Like You Do" was used in north West's "Miss Westie" rap. The only mention of this that I've found online as of this date (May 14, 2024) were multiple comments in discussion threads for that cheer's YouTube video short https://youtube.com/shorts/U-bDwjc74J4?si=0pasXeukA-NqqqwC  and YouTube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFutS36rlSI . Both of these videos published in April 2023 by BlkCheerMomTV) as well as several comments in another YouTube video of that cheer that was published in May 2023 by Coach Jay https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIMHDxBH5Vs

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LYRICS FOR "TALKING") [With a focus on the portion referred to as "Miss Westie"
[Chorus: James Blake]*

You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)

 [Verse: North West, and James Blake]*

I love it here
We gonna take over the year for another year
It's your bestie, Miss, Miss Westie
Don't tryna test me
It's gonna get messy
It's gonna get messy
Just, just bless me
Bless me (Talking)
It's your bestie, Miss, Miss Westie (Talking)
Just tryna bless me (Talking)
Just bless me, bless me (Talking)

[Chorus: Stomp & Shake Cheerleader]*
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
You don't want no problems, you just— (Talking)
(Talk)”…

Online source - https://genius.com/Kanye-west-and-ty-dolla-sign-talking-lyrics
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"Bestie"is an American vernacular word meaning "best friend".

*The credit for the Stomp & Shake cheerleading sample was given to James Blake, one of the producers of that song. There's no mention in that online lyric page that the voice that is heard is that of one of the cheerleaders in the YouTube short/YouTube video of "You Don't Want No Problems. You Just Talk Like You Do" (published by BlkCheerMomTV in April 2023).

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - You Don't Want No Problems, You Just Talk Like You Do! ***Full video



Blk CheerMom TV, Apr 15, 2023  #stompandshake #cheer #blackexcellence

The full video of the high school stomp and shake cheer battle at a high school game. Absolutely love these young ladies 💯❤️
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The cheerleader standing in the first row on the right is the one who chants "
You Don't Want No Problems, You Just Talk Like You Do!"
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As of May 14, 2024 at 10:25 AM ET  that YouTube video has a total of 539, 162 total views and 1,067 comments.

A YouTube short of that video is found at https://youtube.com/shorts/U-bDwjc74J4?si=0pasXeukA-NqqqwC.  As of May 14, 2024 at 10:25 AM ET that YouTube short has a total of more than 2 million views and and 4.528 comments.

* "YouTube shorts" continuously repeats the same clip.

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WORDS FOR THIS VERSION OF THE STOMP AND SHAKE CHEER "YOU DON'T HAVE NO PROBLEMS. YOUR JUST TALK LIKE YOU DO" 

Cheer captain - "You don't want no problems.

You just talk like you do.

All of the cheerleaders -  Let me show you

That you don’t want no problems.

You just talk like you do.

Say it to our face.

Knuck if you buck.

Step up out them bleachers.

Wassup?

Get buck!

- posted in the discussion thread for https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFutS36rlSI by @unknownunknown9296, November 2023
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/05/i-bet-you-wont-get-buck-and-two-other.html
 for the meaning of the term "get buck." in the context of this cheer.


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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE USE OF THIS STOMP & SHAKE SAMPLE IN NORTH WEST'S RAP "MISS WESTIES" (PART I OF KANYE WEST'S HIP HOP SONG "TALKING")

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFutS36rlSI This is the link for the YouTube Stomp & Shake video that is given above.

These compilation documents a small sample of the comments in this video's discussion thread about Kanye West sampling the voice of the cheerleader in his daughter North West's song "Miss Westie" which is a part of the song "Talking".  

These comments are given without any emojis and are given in relative chronological order except for replies and are numbered for referencing purposes only. 

February 2024
 

1. @KemoniHarris-hv5uw
"That sounds like the voice from Kanye West’s new song Northwest"

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2. @webvibin
"it is"

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3. @shayaanrk
" @realdrew1 "Talking" off Vultures 1"

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4. @krxstnjade
"I wonder who got paid for the sample? Each individual girl ? or just the lead ?"

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5. @shayaanrk
"@krxstnjade  it was free real estate"

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6. @krxstnjade
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@shayaanrk  what ?! Omg they don’t have to pay ANYTHING??"

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7. @FilipinoAnimator69420, April 2024
"@krxstnjade bruh being featured in a Kanye song is better than being paid"

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8. @naomibrown4837, April 2024
"I was finna say that this sound like the girl from Kanye but I had to check the chat first"

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@saarimm7057
9. "whos here from kanyes song"

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@monicarenee7949, May 2024
10. "Me because I wanted to see where the sample was from, love it"

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@yuvikh
11. "I’m here after Kanye used this sample in Vultures, this just shows there’s music in everything"

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@dennismakumi3815
12. "kanye west sample went crazy on this bro

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@ramysam90
"13."Kanye has the greatest ear of all time."

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14. @southafricangamer7174
"Damn this was what ye sampled? Both the beat and North went hard!'

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@Leezzdasleezee
15. "Imagine being the background of north west song we love it!!!"

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16. @sillygoofyberry
"SHOUT OUT TO KANYE AND NORTH WEST FOR THIS SAMPLE FLIP"

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17. @augustegusteau1245
"This video bout to blow up after the kanye album"

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18. @dailaaitievaniebaai
"Who is here after the north west debut song"

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19. @coryscoburgh1955
"The fact that Kanye sampled this is nuts'

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20. @lonersdreamworld
"imagine finding out kanye sampled you, thats an honor"

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21. @sk-te
"you don't want no problems you just t a l k i n g"

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22. @Banz4Dan
"Kanye Finna Bring this video alive again"

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23. @savannaweber5662
"Are they being compensated for the sample North West used?!"

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24. @holasoydora6522
"not sure but it's the girls decision but unluckily she doesn't have any social media's (I'm not sure)"

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25. @medeucaa
"Welp. I found the sample kanye used"

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26. @narutouzumake7509
"Kanye the GOAT!!!!!"

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27. @SlxmRxcey
"Kanye fans rise upppppp"

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28. @nihemah
"I’m here bc of North West"

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29. @Ikilledkainrag
"Here before the Kanye comments"

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March 2024
30. @alexhabialwj9911
"Bro i came here after  Kanye dropped his album…"

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31. @GamerTim3
"how did Kanye even find this"

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32. @ph0uad
"It was James Blake, not Kanye who produced it"

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33. @pendleton123
"I'm sure the person who posted this is trying to figure out why the views are spiking 9 months later"

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34. @HeartBreakBonez
"The original besties of Ms. Westie"

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35. @pkmnarizona7870
"Kanye got me here"

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36. @l.avaa.l
"thank god kanye sampled this."

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37. @Dz15007
"came here because of ye but this sh-t* is hard as hell"

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38. @Royay
"This is better than the Kanye song. lol"

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39. @MLadd-lq6gt
"Yall think Kanye paid them?"

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40. @GuilhermeTNT.-
"nah its a sample now"

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41. @majo6944
"prolly not ngl"

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42. @appleheadred3813
"So, Kanye sampled the young lady in the beginning…they better get paid."

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43. @mfsweatshirt6237
"Fr"

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44. @craigtrotter314
"Kanye did this sample justice."

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45. @szolim_oh
"Greetings from kanye squad"

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46. @theguyfromearth1993
"kanye can sample anything"

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April  2024 

47. @nasirhill
"Somebody needs to sample this

 Someone famous

And controversial"

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48. @chelscampbell88
"i just wonder what this girls reaction is whenever she hears ye literally sampled this"

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49. @w7lves
"Kanye be like “this fire” "

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50. @javoncii
"Who randomly clicked this thinking it was a regular cheerleading video knowing ohhh this was sampled in the kanye song?"

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51. @Grym0626
"Kanye need to cut these girls a check"

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52. @LilSticKaDynamite
"Just to let yall know yall maybe owed royalties. Look up kanye west "talking"....."

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53. @Monty-cn7cl
"Imagine being able to tell people that you’re voice is a sample for a Kanye song. Biggest flex"

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54. @bigtonybruiser
"bad sample"

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55. @Jayy-vr5sp
"not really"

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56. @bigtonybruiser
"@Jayy-vr5sp  I just think her voice is obnoxious"

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57. @Jayy-vr5sp
"@bigtonybruiser   you have to have a loud and projecting voice while cheering. especially in a loud setting like a football or basketball game."

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58. @bigtonybruiser
"@Jayy-vr5sp  i just dont like it being repeated in the song is all"

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59. @crimzoh1063
"How would u feel if u we’re just on the cheer team and u end up being sampled into one of the greatest rappers of all times song"

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May 2024 

60. @MAXSWAG507
"She needs to be paid."

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