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The Late 1970s &1980s Hip Hop Dance "The Patty Duke" (videos, Information, & comments)


RetroAlexander, Jun 23, 2013
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This intro to The Patty Duke Show has actress Patty Duke playing the character Patty Lane dancing (from .033 to .036). .The lyrics for that time stamp are lines from that series' theme song: “Patty loves to rock n roll a hot dog makes her lose control.”

This (and a few other very brief scenes of the character Patty dancing in that series) were the inspiration for the African American originated Hip Hop dance called "The Patty Duke".

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 -  Patty Duke Show Intro



Lee Goldberg, Dec 4, 2006

Main title sequence for the Patty Duke Show
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The intro to that American television series has Patty Duke playing the character Patty Lane dancing (from .036 to .042.The lyrics for that time stamp are from that series' theme song “Patty loves to rock n roll a hot dog makes her lose control”

Here's a comment from that video's discussion thread: 
@boopkid, 2007
"Loved this show! This was the intro to the third and last season.  Thanks for sharing it."

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases two YouTube videos of brief clips from The Patty Duke television series. The White American actress Patty Duke portraying her character "Patty Lane" in that television series is said to have been the basis of the African American late 1970s-1980s Hip Hop dance called "The Patty Duke".

Information about "The Patty Duke Show" is included in this post along with selected comments from discussion threads for several YouTube videos about "The Patty Duke" dance.

The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners/

Thanks to Patty Duke for her cultural legacy. Thanks to all those who choreographed and popularize "The Patti Duke" dance, and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. 
Thanks also to all those who ae featured in these videos and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT "THE PATTY DUKE SHOW"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Patty_Duke_Show
"The Patty Duke Show is an American television sitcom created by Sidney Sheldon and William Asher. The series ran on ABC from September 18, 1963, to April 27, 1966.

The series was developed as a vehicle for teenage star Patty Duke, who had won an Academy Award the previous year. Duke starred in dual roles of "twin cousins" Patty and Cathy Lane.

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Premise

Patty Lane (Duke) is a normal, chatty, rambunctious teenager who (according to the theme song lyrics) lives in the Brooklyn Heights section of New York City"...
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patty_Duke for information about rhe American actress Patty Duke (December 14, 1946[1] – March 29, 2016).

That page and the Wikipedia page about The Patty Duke Show don't mention or allude to “The Patty Duke” Hip Hop dance.

Here are two comments about this American television series from https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzGzFmCVqM Patty Duke Show, The (Intro) S1 (1963), published by RetroAlexander, Jun 23, 2013 (with numbers given for referencing purposes only)
1. @tlw1950, 2015
"No diversity! Where are the blacks, Latinos and Asians?I have to admit, though, that's one hell of a staircase!"

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2. @jeffreyriley8742, 2015
"+tlw1950 It was a very different country back then."
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Here's my comment regarding that exchange (I didn't publish it in that YouTube discussion thread) :
Given the lack of diversity in this show, it’s rather ironical that African Americans created a Hip Hop dance based on the brief dance snippet from that intro and named it “The Patty Duke”.

Based on what I've read in various YouTube discussion threads, "The Patti Duke" was rather popular, particularly in parts of New York City, in the 1980s and is "name dropped" in two Beastie Boys Hip Hop records. Because of its fascination with Hip Hop culture, The Patti Duke dance spread to other parts of the world and has multiple "how to" YouTube dance videos, all of which have different instructions for  performing that dance.  

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT "THE PATTY DUKE" (DANCE) FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR VIDEO #1 & SEVERAL OTHER YOUTUBE VIDEOS

These discussion threads are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only..

DISCLAIMER
Showcasing these videos in this pancocojams post doesn't mean to imply that I believe that The Patty Duke dance was done these ways. 

I don't know how the original steps for The Patty Duke were done or whether any of the dances that are shown in this pancocojams post or any of the other YouTube videos that purport to be The Patty Duke are actually that dance or later versions of that dance. Most of those other videos have no comments in their discussion thread.

This pancocojams post and its selected comments are published to point out the fact that there seldom is any authoritative version of old school Hip Hop dances on YouTube. Furthermore, old school (1970s, 1980s, and early 1990s) Hip Hop dances usually have more than one name depending on the city or region people live in, and there may be more than one version of that dance during the same period of time. Also, later dances that are performed differently from the original version/s of an earlier Hip Hop dance may use the name of that earlier Hip Hop dance. 

Adding to this mix, is the fact that people may learn a Hip Hop dance the wrong way and promote what they learned as the "right way" and/or "the only way" to do that particular dance.

SHOWCASE VIDEO #1
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dIzGzFmCVqM Patty Duke Show, The (Intro) S1 (1963), published by RetroAlexander, Jun 23, 2013 [This video is given at the top of this post.] 

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1. @icalledherjanet, 2015
"At :36 she looks like she's having a seizure or something! Lol"

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2. @mwbright, 2015
"@icalledherjanet It's the hot dog.  They make her "lose control."
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This series' theme song says that "Hot dogs make her lose control".

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3. @mysterion3182, 2021
"No matter how many times I see it I always laugh at the part where Patty is dancing like she's nuts."

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2

There are no comments in this discussion thread about Patty Duke's dancing scenes.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 - Basic Movements Hip-Hop Patty Duke



Danceproject, Jun 10, 2011

"Tutorial , basic moves of hip hop!"
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hR6Ju7HXW8A
 

1. @miltonmillsmd, 2016
"That is not the version that I learned on the west coast!  Ours was MUCH cooler and more animated."

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2. @PokeyHauntus, 2016
"when do you shake your hands?"
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This comment refers to the character Patty Lane wiggling both of her hands while she danced in one of the intro clips from The Patty Duke Show that are embedded in this pancocojams post. 

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3. @manipool, 2017
"The Patty Duke Show is a 60's not a 70's show. He probably saw reruns in the 70's."

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4. @SpookOneMusic, 2017
"He said the DANCE was created from the tv show in the 70s"

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5. @noelespirtu8165, 2018
"you gotta do the patty duke to 70s music"

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6. @Khultan, 2022
"EXACTLY."

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7. .@freddiehall6433. 2020
"Back in the day it wasn't choreographed...u just hit the move"

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8. @444Bam, 2020
"The Patty Duke we did in NYC was nothing like that... and we danced it to songs like Georgy Porgy by Toto or Heartbeat Taana Gardner"

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9.@mavement, 2020
" @444Bam  Wow great! Love it! Awesome to connect with people who share the same culture... Yeah right, we know the history from the "Rockers". Very interesting. We still work with legends from the bronx, brooklyn and also from the westside (LA). Always a pleasure."

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10. @Waynestarr, 2020
"That's not the Patty Duke I know. I never seen this dance before, and I'm born in the early 70's. I believe the other, many videos of the Patty Duke are the right ones. Majority rules. It sucks though, that there's confusion about other dances like this and the "Smurf". You just never know which version is the RIGHT version. But I'll put my money on the side shifting versions on the other videos. I've seen that version on countless rap videos from the late 80's to early 90's. I NEVER saw the version they're doing in this video, at all."

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11. @bowlgs621, 2023
"you ae absolutely right and in NJ we did it to karen young i need a hot shot"

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12. @ryanc234, 2021
" I do the Patty Duke, in case you don't remember
Well, I freak a funky beat like the sh*t was in a blender!"
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This is the way this comment was written in that discussion thread

This is a quote of lyrics from the White American Hip Hop group Beastie Boys, featuring Q-Tip [song:  released Mar. 17, 1994 https://genius.com/Beastie-boys-get-it-together-lyrics

[Warning – This record includes profanity and the n word]

The Beastie Boys also mention The Patty Duke in their 1992  record "Finger Lickin Good":
"I can do the Freak, the Patty Duke, and the Spank
Gotta free the funky fish from the funky fish tanks"

https://genius.com/Beastie-boys-finger-lickin-good-lyrics

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13. @mymusic8414, 2021
"Yo that is not how we was doing the party duke here in nyc back in 1980"

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14. @bryanwiley5511, 2021
"I could be wrong, but that is not the real dance "Patty Duke", I was in college when the dance in the early early 80's or very late 70's (1979), and it was a true real imitation of Patty Duke dance from her t.v. show in the 1960's.  In fact, I was in college at OU (University of Oklahoma), a party in the building Dale Hall Lounge, and the DJ, didn't have many songs, from Con Funk Shun, "Chase Me" and "Candy" played over, over.  That album came out in 1979.  I left the party in body pain from doing the "Patty Duke" dance.  So maybe this video is some updated version of a dance from a different era.  If you want to see the real dance watch the opening song of the Patty Duke Show on FETV 8am daylight savings time eastern time zone, this is on cable t.v.  You will be amassed of the dance."

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15. @mavement, 2021
"Wow that's cool to hear and we love to share knowledge with the ones who did the dances! This is one variation of the patty duke we learned from HipHop Legend Mr. Wiggles so this is how we do it here in Europe :) The young generation should learn and respect the roots and get them dances too- it would be nice to see your version of the patty duke, lioness and so on..."

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16. 
@vospacevera, 2021
"Post a video! The world deserves to see the original, not this watered down"

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17. @monicaarroyo9744, 2021
"Please show us"

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18. @bryanwiley5511, 2021
"@monicaarroyo9744  I gave you all the information, you are on youtube, pull up The Patty Duke Show, you will see the dance, it is brief, but that was a huge dance back in the day, again, her show is on the COZI network (old t.v. classic shows)"

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19. @babiharris7623, 2021
"That is not the Patty Duke."

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20.@dudeseriously57, 2021
"The patty duke dance predates rap and hip hop so this appears to be a second version.  Just my opinion"

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21. @Khultan, 2022
"@bryanwiley5511  They playing music that wasn't what the Bronx DJs were playing in the 70s."

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22. @afrosoul_soul, 2024
"In Philly we did the Patty Duke to Radiance - RC La Rock Micstro

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23. @patriciadukes1398, 2021
"Ok now, I was - we- were doing the Patty Duke in the early 1980's and sorry it did Not go like its shown here. And I know because my name is Pati Dukes and I was rockin the Patty Duke dance all the time.  But do your thing"

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24. @georgeshotrodbarn2113,2021
"Now i am 63 and i used to tell the young boys at work that i used the dance the patty duke the Frankenstein the lioness and the Hussle and they said i was crazy there is not no dances like that then i would bust out the lioness which was the only one i remember and they would lough their butts"

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25. @Dvco33333, 2022
"The song "firecracker "  by "Mass Production "  and "Ring my bell" gave birth to the dance "The Patty Duke" in 1979...much love for this channel and I encourage everyone to follow, but that dance instruction is not the original 1979 "Patty Duke" I danced to at house parties and clubs that year....lol"

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26. @TheCrimeDogBowWow, 2023
"Truth"

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27. patriciadukes1398, 2024
"So Sorry, my name is Pati Dukes and that is NOT HOW WE DID MY DANCE BACK IN THE DAY. BUT GOOD TRY"

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #4 - Foundation Hip Hop Dance (Patty Duke)

published by Dabeat Gallego, Mar 5, 2019

Paso del Foundation del Hip Hop freestyle (Social Dance)

Tiene como base el Show de televisiĆ³n Patty Duke de 1963.
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Google translate from Spanish to English

Hip Hop Freestyle Foundation Step (Social Dance)

It is based on the 1963 Patty Duke TV Show.
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhesXEyHwlQ

[selected comments]

1. @Dvco33333, 2023
"That's not the Patty Duke circa 1979...lol"

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2. @DabeatGallego, 2023
"Who are you?

A channel without information, without videos, without contributions, without dance, it only comes to talk shit and say that's not how it is. Grow up and if you are going to open that mouth, let it be to contribute something from what you do, not sit on a sofa and say stupid things without working. Clown... lol"

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3. @avp0713, 2024
"Imma be honest, I have to agree.... we learned a different Patty Duke right about 1978-79 also.   But whatever, its not that serious.  Some areas called dances differently.  I'm from 170th and College Ave in the Bronx."

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #5 - 
Learn the Party/Social Dance Step: The Patty Duke | Tutorial by MDS-Duo | MDS & Entertainment

Mavement, Apr 3, 2020  Step Tutorials

1. The Patty Duke starts with the groove. It has a special Tap-Hop-Step for it's base and it is not a typical two-step. Start with putting one foot to the front and tap to the floor with the ball of your foot. As soon as you did it, add the hop with your back leg (standing leg). Change the side and do it again. When you switch sides, also pivot and turn the whole body a bit to the side (almost like a side step). 

2. Put in your arms now. Make a big swing and open your hand as if you are ready to smack someone in the face. This is the real inspiration and has a background to it, not just a fun thing we invented. As you do the hop with your feet, your arms should move accordingly to it. Switch arms as you switch the side with the feet. 

3. Add your own style to it now. It can be lower, it can be done with two arms, they can go over your head or touching yourself after the "slap" and so on. Now you are ready to party and freestyle with a nice Patty Duke! :) Have fun with it!...
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread (with numbers added for referencing purposes only)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsumczyKEVI

1. @444Bam,2020
"I've seen a few vids on The Patty Duke dance and none where like the way we did it in NYC.... at least you guys were close and had the right tempo music.  I give yall Credit for that"

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2. @mavement, 2020
"Thank you very much! :) We learned this step from the NYC-HipHop Legend @mrwiggles so it must be very close to the way you did it. Keep on rocking :)"

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3. @444Bam, 2020
"@mavement  I knew Wigs from back in the days along with the entire RSCrew ...and the bronx had a different style than we did in Manhattan..  we did UP ROCK and they did TOP ROCK , I've been doing it longer than Wiggle and the crew lol but it's all good as long as you're having fun with it.... The Patty D was huge in East Harlem"

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@mavement, 2020
"@444Bam  Wow great! Love it! Awesome to connect with people who share the same culture... Yeah right, we know the history from the "Rockers". Very interesting. We still work with legends from the bronx, brooklyn and also from the westside (LA). Always a pleasure."

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5. @Waynestarr, 2021
"That's not the Patty Duke I know. I never seen this dance before, and I'm born in the early 70's. I believe the other, many videos of the Patty Duke are the right ones. Majority rules. It sucks though, that there's confusion about other dances like this and the "Smurf". You just never know which version is the RIGHT version. But I'll put my money on the side shifting versions on the other videos. I've seen that version on countless rap videos from the late 80's to early 90's. I NEVER saw the version they're doing in this video, at all."

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6. @avp0713, 2024
"Thats not the Patty Duke that I remember from 1979 which was based of the sitcom on TV where the actual Patty Duke used to dance in the mirror."

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7. @mavement, 2024
"this is definitely a version of Patty Duke. This version comes from NY/Bronx. We learned it from Mr. Wiggles himself, our mentor and brotha."

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8. @avp0713, 2024
"@mavement   - I'm from 170th and College Ave.  I know Wiggles from way back... because i'm also a Locker... and a little popping too..   and I know this step too, i never knew it as the Patty Duke tho.  I learned a different Patty Duke step at that time.... it didn't look at all like this..."

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