ticket88,
From Hairspray (1988 - John Waters)
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0095270/
POSTED FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY: See the wiki article about The Madison at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madison_...
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part III of a two part pancocojams series on "The Madison". "The Madison" is a late 1950s/mid 1960s African American originated Rhythm & Blues line dance
This post showcases YouTube videos of The Madison dance along with selected comments from those videos' discussion threads. The Addendum to this post includes comments that I had retrieved in 2016 from a video of the Madison as it was danced in the movie Hairspray. That video is no longer available
Most of those videos were previously included in Part II of this pancocojams series, but I removed them on December 18, 2023 to and republished them in a stand alone pancocojams post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/03/how-madison-line-dance-got-its-name-and.html for Part I of this series. Part I provides information about the origin & early years of the Madison dance and records. Lyrics for Al Brown & The Tune Toppers' "The Madison" and Ray Brown Combo's "The Madison Time" are included in this post. The Addendum to Part I features a video of the Birdland dance. The Birdland jazz/swing dance is one of the calls in Al Brown's Madison record.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/03/al-brown-and-ray-bryant-madison-records.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a sound file of Al Brown & The TuneToppers' "Madison" record and the Ray Bryant Combo's "Madison" record. Part II also showcases six videos of the Madison line dance and record. A sound file of the Al Brown & The Tune Toppers and the Ray Bryant Combo "Madison" records are also included in the Addendum to this post.
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The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Al Brown & His TuneToppers and the Ray Bryant Combo for their musical legacies. Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to the publishers of these examples on YouTube.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/03/black-teens-and-buddy-deane-show-1957.html for a related post on Black Teens And The Buddy Deane Show.
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ADDITIONAL SHOWCASE EXAMPLES & COMMENTS
These examples are given in chronological with the video with the earliest YouTube publishing date given first.
Example #2: Dancin' the Madison on "The Buddy Deane Show"
MarylandPublicTV Uploaded on Apr 30, 2008
Clip from Shake, Rattle, and Roll: The Buddy Deane Scrapbook
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
2010
yankeerebel65
"This is the ONLY surviving videotape or kinescope clip of Buddy's show. It seems that only about 8 minutes of 8mm footage survived the years also. It was shot in late 57 or early 58."
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This comment is also included in pancocojams' "Black Teens & Buddy Deane Show" post whose link is given above.
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2011
mortyfromc
"It was shows like this back in the 50's and 60's where the rest of us learned how to do the steps. We didn't have dvr's back then either. You had to get it the first time or hope they would dance it the next show so you coud get it then. It was a good time."
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Bailey Randolph
"wow the white people really couldnt move could they?"
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Direness
"+Bailey Randolph @wedance4ever95 If you read the comments, they didn't have a lot of space to move, and they weren't allowed to flavor or improvise very much, as TV was a new medium - decorum had to be followed. Remember that Elvis was first filmed only above the hips because they felt his hip movement was scandalous? Feel free to continue thinking INSIDE the box, though!"
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Bailey Randolph
"+Direness @Direness calm down...there was no diss involved.. way to make a big deal out of a comment on an internet video though"
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Diane Bryce
"the announcer keeps announcing different steps but these kids keep doing the same steps over and over. whats wrong with them cant they follow the song or is this the only step they know?"
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kpitt1204
"+Diane Bryce @TheRainydaywoman43 ROTFL! I was thinking the same thing!!!!!!!! That made me laugh even more!"
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Richard Powers
"I'm afraid that TheRainydaywoman43 doesn't understand the calls. Al Brown quickly tells the whole pattern that will be coming up, but the dancers have to wait until he says "hit It." then they do exactly what was called. Same for the second figure, the M."
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2013
utubewatcher806
"+Wolfgang Gunn These shows were the local predecessors of syndicated shows like American Bandstand, Hullabaloo, and Soul Train."
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2014
seywhut2985
"I loved doing the Madison. I'm laughing at these kids. You almost always got off of step like the guy on the front line shaking his head. LOL! You absolutely had to have the record completely memorized from start to finish. I remember this version on a couple of times. It was Ray Bryant's version that was the monster hit. I remember playing it over and over and over again in my room practicing because you had to have the steps down so you could look really cool like you were bored to tears when you danced it. LOL. Just like the kid with the pompadour in the front row. You were like, "What - again? Oh all right. I'll dance it again." LOL"
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david lincoln brooks
"Shouldn't the group handclap fall on the backbeat... not the downbeat? White people dancing, indeed!"
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Wayne Brasler
"I learned the Madison at a house party in St. Louis in 1959. My buddy and I were the only white people there! Even in an era where segregation reigned, white kids who wanted to know black kids and black kids who wanted to know white kids managed to do. A lot of the credit goes to parents who wanted their children to know all of life, not just part of it."
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mkrcompton
"Is this video the inspiration for John Walters's epic film "Hairspray?"."
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Manuel Orozco [2016]
"+Lester White The Madison actually existed before Hairspray. The Buddy Deane Show and John Waters boyhood in 60's Baltimore inspired the movie stage musical movie remake and soon NBC TV production into being. "
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MsOldGregg
"I was a senior at a Catholic girls school in 1960. The powers that be thought it would be nice to have some of us dance for the alumnae in uniform. Someone chose The Madison and four of us performed it masterfully. Afterward we waited for our accolades but instead heard "We didn't like your dance" and "Why are your skirts so short?" (we had rolled up the waistbands in classic Catholic school girl fashion.) We ran for the parking lot half expecting to be followed by little old ladies with torches."
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2015
pat brun
"I was on the show several times as an African American teen."
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Saivon Desper
"+pat brun ............ If you don't mind me asking. How old are you?"
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pat brun
"I'm 67.
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imusfan48
"+pat brun That is soooo neat, I am 67 too, love this dance/song,,,do you ever see yourself in these videos?"
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pat brun
"+imusfan48 No because there is no African American footage available."
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imusfan48
"+pat brun Like 'Black People' didn't exist! What a joke, a lot of people today, don't realize that segregation, Jim Crow Laws, etc. existed not that long ago. I remember going down to Nashville to see the 'Grand Ole Oprey' with my parents (1957?) and seeing separate drinking fountains and RR's. I was from Ohio, and about 8 or 9, and even at that age, knew that it wasn't right?"
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pat brun
"It's so refreshing to hear an honest white person speak the truth on these issues. I heard there was a demonstration at the studio concerning the separation of the races on the show. It's been more than 50 years, and I'm just hearing about this. That may have been good cause to dispose of footage. Who knows? I enjoyed the show and would have loved to see myself dancing all those many years ago. The grands would get a kick out of it"
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This comment exchange is also included in pancocojams' "Black Teens And The Buddy Deane Show" post.
Example #2 - The 'Madison' dance scene from Bande à part (France, 1964) dir. Jean-Luc Godard
1895tillnow,
Shortly after the famous scene of silence, Odile and Arthur
decide to dance. Franz joins them as they perform a dance routine. The music is
R&B or soul music composed for the film by Michel Legrand, but Anna Karina
said the actors called it "the Madison dance." This scene influenced
the dance scene with Uma Thurman and John Travolta in Quentin Tarantino's Pulp
Fiction. It also influenced scenes in Hal Hartley's Simple Men[5] and Martin Hynes' The Go-Getter.
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread, with numbers added for referencing purposes only:
1. @Perucini369, 2022
"Anna Karina: an actor of easy charm and grace whose presence
radiated from the screen
In her famous “dance” scene in Bande à Part (1964), directed
by her husband Jean-Luc Godard, she is Odile, who meets up with Franz (played
by Sami Frey) and Arthur (Claude Brasseur), the people with whom she plans to
do a robbery. For no reason at all, for the sheer subversive mischief and fun
of it, and partly also because they are a little bored (arguably the motivation
for everything else as well), they do an extraordinarily insouciant dance
together in the middle of a café.
Peter Bradshaw - 15 Dec 2019
Source: The Guardian"
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2.
"My understanding is that it was filmed with no music - the
music, foot stomps, and hand claps were added later"
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Example #3: Madison Line Dance demo from The Definitive Madison Instructional DVD
lindyland Published on Dec 10, 2012
This clip is taken from The Definitive Madison Instructional DVD released back in 2005 featuring swing and Madison dance specialists Jennifer Comar and Paolo Pasta Lanna. This particular version contains all the original steps that were choreographed back in 1958 to match the calls of DeeJay Eddie Morrison featured on The Madison Time recording by Ray Bryant.
This demo was made possible after several years of research, encouragement by Lance Benishek who had an inclination that steps being showcased were not all original patterns, some trips to Baltimore, interviews with former Madison dancers such as Linda Snyder (one of the original "committee" dancers on the Buddy Dean Show.) Most importantly, it was the footage provided by Arlene Kozak (producer of The Buddy Dean Show broadcast out of Baltimore, Maryland in the 1950's), that provided an accurate glimpse into it's history. That year, a dance couple had been commissioned to travel the states and demonstrate this line dance. There was one short film clip that showcased them, and that provided the answers to the missing puzzle.
I am finally releasing this demonstration filmed in 2005 on youtube to help spread these steps world wide.
Note: The Definitive Madison Instructional DVD also features another line dance based on the musician Al Brown and the Tune Topper's version of the Madison. In addition, there are Partner Style demonstrations that were developed by both Jennifer and Paolo with influence from Ryan Francois. More historic notes and Instruction for all the footwork is also available on this DVD. © 2006 Jumpin Entertainment
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
Patrick Coffey, 2014
"This is the first time I have seen a video of the Madison where all the steps were done correctly….good job guys you are awesome"
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Avery Pack, 2015
"+Patrick Coffey Yep, especially the Rifleman part. That's closer to how my mom showed me how to do it...."
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loveyouall66, 2016
"LOVE THIS DANCE. GREAT! LOVE THE JACKIE GLEASON MOVE."
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Example #4: The Madison Line Dance | Al Brown's Version | From the Definite Madison Instructional
lindyland Published on May 28, 2013 (the publishing date Dec.10,2012 is also given)
This clip is taken from The Definitive Madison Instructional DVD released back in 2005 featuring swing and Madison dance specialists Jennifer Comar and Paolo Pasta Lanna. This particular version contains all the original steps that were choreographed back in 1958 to match the calls featured on The Madison recording by Al Brown & The Tune Toppers
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Subsequent paragraphs found in the summary for Example #4 are also found in this summary.
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Example #5: Annette dancing The Madison
NRRArchives3, Published on Mar 29, 2013
Coke Time. June 27, 1960.
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The dance begins at .48 of this video.
Here's an excerpt from a review of this film clip which identifies the (White American) teen idols who were featured in this clip:
From https://theslippeddisk.wordpress.com/2015/02/16/annette-funicello-dances-the-madison-on-the-coke-time-1960-program/
"Annette Funicello dances The Madison on the Coke Time 1960 program
Posted on 2015-02-16 by markbarclay
Bob Denver doing his Maynard G. Krebs character, Edd Byrnes and Pat Boone introduce Annette Funicello on Pat Boone’s Coke Time 1960 program from June 27, 1960"
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Classic Music Videos & Pictures 1960s, Apr 25, 2020
This video was created by my step father, Bradley Kemp and
his business partner Bob Bunzel. They started Tela-Records Services. Please see
the about section for more history.
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ADDENDUM - OTHER COMMENTS ABOUT THE MADISON DANCE IN THE MOVIE "HAIRSPRAY")
Madison Time, published by Bobotmedia, Jun 9, 2011
Clip of "The Madison" from the movie Hairspray
with Ricki Lake. "The Madison" is a novelty dance that was popular in
the late 1950's to mid 1960's. Ray Bryant Trio recorded "Madison
Time" for Columbia Records in 1959. "It's Madison Time!"
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread: [Pancocojams Editor's Note- I retrieved these comments in 2016. This video is no longer available.]
MarkinDC, 2012
"THANKS for posting, still the coolest line dance (and
one of the trickiest) going. Although the Birdland step was left out of this,
this is the best "version" I know of on film. They really get the
moves and feel right.
I used to work as a dance instructor, and had to teach this
for some friends of mine getting married. Somone who originally danced on the
Buddy Deane show, and taught us the missing step (the Birdland)."
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A video of the Birdland (jazz/swing) dance is included in
the "Black Teens & The Buddy Deane Show" post whose link is given
above.
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Wayne Brasler, 2014
"I learned the Madison at a house party in St. Louis in 1959.
This is the dance exactly."
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Wayne Brasler, 2014
"+NelsonClick There's more to the story! I went to a
junior college that was half black and half white. We all got along just fine
because the blacks and whites had nothing to do with each other except be
polite. A group of us who ran the campus paper (which, the one semester I was
managing editor, got the top rating from the Columbia Scholastic Press
Association in New York City) included both blacks and whites and we worked
together to get the two parts of the student body together. I won't go into how
we did it, but we did do it, and that got me, a white boy, invited to dances at
black home and I would bring with me friends from the suburban high school I
came from. And, yes, dance and music proved a big part of bringing the walls of
separation down without a great deal of drama."
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Wali Bashir, 2015
"Heard this song on SOULTOWN countdown of dance music.
Had to check this dance out being a linedancer. Classic linedance to me.
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This concludes Part III of this three part pancocojams series on the Madison line dance.
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