TODAY, Aug 9, 2023 #alabama #trending #viralvideos
Police in Montgomery, Alabama, have made arrests and issued
warrants tied to the chaotic brawl on a dock sparked after a boat captain asked
a group of men to move their pontoon boat. Officials say the investigation is
not over and more charges could still come. NBC’s Sam Brock reports for TODAY.
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Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part III of a three part pancocojams post about the Montgomery Riverfront Brawl (Montgomery, Alabama, August 5, 2023)
This pancocojams post presents a compilation of some of the YouTube comments from Black people about the Montgomery Riverdront Brawl (August 5, 2023) that mention the ancestors.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/08/montgomery-alabama-brawl-august-5-2023.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post presents information about "the Montgomery Brawl" from its Wikipedia page.
That post also includes some examples of Black folks' comments about the Montgomery Brawl from a YouTube discussion thread.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/08/the-montgomery-alabama-brawl-august-5.html for Part II of this pancocojams post. That post presents two article excerpts with information about the "Montgomery Brawl". This post also showcases some comments and "tweets" about that fight which include references to Jason Aldean May 2023 controversial Country music song "Try That In A Small Town".
The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.*
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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*This comment from the discussion thread for the video that is embedded in this pancocojams post speaks to my overarching reason for focusing on that Montgomery, Alabama fight:
@jnwalker44, August 9, 2023, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1gURBEmyj8
"There is far more to this than JUST a disagreement and a fight about a docking space. The current political climate and history of this racist area played a lot more to this than meets the eye. The cultural divide in BAMA is greater than you would think in this day and age.
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There are LOTS of YouTube videos about that brawl. Both of the videos that I showcased in those previous pancocojams post can now only be viewed on YouTube. This is also the case with the video that is embedded in this post and is likely the case with all of the videos of that brawl that are found on YouTube.
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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE MONTGOMERY (ALABAMA) RIVERFRONT BRAWL (WITH A FOCUS ON BLACK PEOPLE'S COMMENTS ABOUT THE ANCESTORS)
Online Source #1
Summary: WILD Alabama Riverfront BRAWL! Black People DEFEND Worker
Against White Assailants | Roland Martin,
August 8, 2023
1. @pinkylopez3055
"I love to see it! The ancestors smiled today!!
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2. @schoolbus071
"We are not our ancestors!!!"
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Reply
3. @marilynmarlowe3061
" @schoolbus071 👀WE are Our Ancestors
RISING UP‼️"
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Reply
4. @m.lewizz3297
" @schoolbus071 we
are our ancestors literally and that why we knew what to do and why"
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Reply
5. @blacprophet1153
" @schoolbus071 I don't like that statement! Our
Ancestors are some of the strongest people that has ever lived on this planet!
They survived chattel slavery, Jim Crow laws, Indentured Servitude, unspeakable
brutality and pure evil! We haven't seen or been through a tenth of what our
ancestors suffered and endured! I can only praise them for being strong,
powerful, intelligent and united in order for us to be here today!!"
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6. @randalllawrence7365,zAugust 9, 2023
"People who say we are not our ancestors is a total
disrespect, our ancestors did fight back."
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August 9, 2023
7. @jay-bd9rv
"Ive.never been to America, I'm Guyanese but I'm african first n this got me super emotional, they so used to seeing us fight between ourselves that they thought we'd let continue to kill our brothers ✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽✊🏽
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Online Source #2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_wPUP5xQpk Vicki Dillard speaks on Alabama riverboat BRAWL to defend BIack
man against white assailants, published by Fly Nubian Queen, Aug 7, 2023
August 7, 2023
1. @maddawgjax
"Shout out to my cousins in Montgomery and Tuskegee Alabama.💪🏿💪🏿✊🏿✊🏿👊🏿"
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@suetrinaalexander7596,August 8, 2023
"They SHOWED UP! AND SHOWED & SHOWED OUT!!!
HALLEUYAH! Amen, RELEASE THE ANCESTORS!!! ❤❤❤💜💯💯💯👍👍👍"
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2. @KalCash101
"Our ancestors was triggered on this day good job black family we have to continue to stick with each other by any means necessary on one accord Black Power B1/FBA 🖤✊🏿"
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Read the meanings of B1 and FBA in the pancocojams comment section below.
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3. @Jnell-777
"Yes I saw that they going learn. Bam Bam Bam!!!! just like
that they got the wrong generation. Karma is something else if you look at the
video. the female in the white dress got her ass whip and throw overboard. In
the water. same behavior that they use and did to our ancestors"
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August 8, 2023
4. @jacinta6421
"Our ancestors showed up and showed out on the riverfront 😂😂😂❤❤❤❤
love my family‼️"
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5. @annetteharmon6194
"Black unity is the one thing they fear ancestor was all in Alabama with
every punch we are all we got and tribes I have been happy with the ancestor way
of waking up my folks"
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6. @lindarussell3443
"THE ANCESTORS ARE BACK !!!
YAH IS ON THE MOVE!!!"
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7. @SifuFreeGamer1417
"Our Ancestors blood is still crying out from the earth ."
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8. jamaicansistarobinson7587
"We have our ancestors in the rivers and oceans; those in the
rivers we call, " River Mummah" in Jamaica and " Mammy
Watah" around the diaspora! Roll
River Jordan ROOL!!"
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9. @jackiebutts9070
"I thought that too ....when the sistah pushed the white girl in the water ....now she knows what it must have felt like to our ancestors."
10. @adongokomer8637
"The slave ancestors were like... "oh, hell no. NOT TODAY!!!!" I'm an African (Kenya) and I felt it all the way ✊🏾"
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11. @murielbarry3766
..."The hat
thrown in the air did the job of calling on our ancestors DNA to wake up. They
are regrouping. They don't like to be embarrassed. Stay safe and alert"
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12. @arwalker3627
"The Most High is warning to let His people go. I cried tears
of joy when all those people came to help the brother. America we are tired and
so is our God. Our ancestors rose up"
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13. @suetrinaalexander7596
"Yes! Indeed Release! The ANCESTORS... 💯💯💯👍👍👍"
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14. @not4every124
"All I seen was an ANCESTOR swimming them
waters showing up and showing out 🏊🏿♂️ who got next😉"
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August 9, 2023
15. @hypatia2942
"42:15 Say it again, Ancestors was all in
that water. Asè"
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16. @indiamckenz5228
"I know them same ancestors that we're
auction there smiling right now.."
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17. @bellmaze8356
"The ancestors came out the grave, they and we are fed up with this sh-t!!!*"
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*This word was fully spelled out in that comment.
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18. @joycelynwalker1293
"I know the black man that pattern the folding chair. His ancestors rise
up and swing like it's no tomorrow. 😂 😂 😂. I love that
swimmer."
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This comment refers to Nathaniel Alexander, a Black man who patented a folding chair in1911.
https://www.thoughtco.com/nathaniel-alexander-folding-chair-4074172
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August 10, 2023
19. @joycelynwalker1293
"I'm hollering my sister. Teach! The ancestors
are speaking through you. You brought tears to my eyes. We can't take anymore
of abuse. They Stole Us! Used Us now abusing us. No more."
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20. @malakahbanathyasharahla2302
"Wow this area was where Slaves were sold
and bought 😲 Smh smh. Our ancestors spirits came alive during that brawl. Hallelujah"
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August 10, 2023
21. @Mack462
"They came out of somewhere they came
off the Harriet! A port that held our ancestors!"
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Here's a comment from the discussion thread of another video of the Montgomery Riverboat brawl that provides some context for this comment
@Troy211, August 9, 2023, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=381HJ902Dh4
"The name of the boat that everybody came rushing off was named the Harriet Tubman, the folding chair was invented by a black man and that was a spot where slaves used to get dropped off and auctioned. August 6, 2024 I'm celebrating!"
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Another commenter replied that the incident actually occurred on August 5, 2023.
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22. @mzsoamazing
"When he threw his hands up in the air he was sending a
message to his ancestors. All this pain should be a holiday and it should be f—k*
around and find out day. We should have
one big gathering down there next year and every year after. This is our
holiday bring your folding chair"
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*This word is fully spelled out in that comment.
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Online Source #3
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NevqinDJefk "Marlon Wayans Responds To Backlash For Criticizing
Riverfront Brawl: Shut The F*ck Up - CH News Show"Comedy Hype" published by Comedy Hype, Aug 8, 2023
Summary: "Marlon Wayans is under-fire after he would seemingly
criticize the actions of a group of black men and women who would come to the
defense of a black dock worker in Montgomery. Wayans would take to Instagram to
help clarify his stance."
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This is the way that video's title is written. Marlon Wayans is an African American comedian/actor.
August 8, 2023
1.@MrLdevelle
"That chair was nothing compared to what they did to us"
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2. @nell_2.0
"They as in the ancestors or they as in the white folks who was trying to break it up??"
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3. @MrLdevelle, August 10, 2023
"@nell_2.0 our ancestors"
August 9, 2023
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August 10, 2023
4. @msjvaldez
"It's not about us beating them up, but its about the unity
that was shown between us and the pent up anger that we are fed up with their
privilege and oppression and some
wanting to go back prior to the Civil rights movement!! Especially in
Alabama!!!The ancestors spoke and protected us that day!🎉🎉"
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5@anonnnymousthegreat
"The fact that this happened in Montgomery, Alabama made it
even more historical. Because that state alone is known to still be inhumane
towards blk people. I felt that the ancestors came thru to help their
descendants out in spirit. Because i know that man had a whole crew of
ancestors helping him swing that chair with all the force in spirit. 😮💨
One of the top things from alabama that instantly comes to
mind that instantly enrages me when people wanna open their mouths to say what
the man did with that chair along with everything else being wrong and
unnecessary is them 4 innocent blk girls who got unalived due to a bombing at
their church by WS."
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"WS" = "Whites" (White people).
This comment refers to the
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/16th_Street_Baptist_Church_bombing
"
Described by Martin Luther King Jr. as "one of the most vicious and tragic crimes ever perpetrated against humanity,"[5] the explosion at the church killed four girls and injured between 14 and 22 other people."...
Online Source #4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMI055CUAVA
"Riverboat captain speaks out for first
time about the Montgomery brawl" CNN, Aug 10, 2023
@sweettexastee,August 11, 2023
"Montgomery stood up!! Our ancestors are proud! ✊🏽✊🏿✊🏾"
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Comment #2 in the YouTube discussion thread given as #2 in this pancocojams post includes the terms "B1" and the term "FBA". Those terms are also found in some other YouTube and in other social media comments/articles.
ReplyDelete"B1" means "Black first"
https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=B1
"B1=Black First. In other words, Black Empowerment before anything else. This term is used by the New Voices Of Black Media, including The Black Authority and Professor Black Truth.
"We have to approach these politicians with a B1 Agenda. We need policies that will specifically benefit us".
by IBTAL September 27, 2019
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"FBA" = Foundational Black Americans
Here's some information about Tariq Nasheed, the man who formulated and is the main promoter of the concept of Foundational Black Americans (FBA)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tariq_Nasheed
"Tariq Allah Nasheed [4][self-published source] is an American film producer, and internet personality.[5][6]
[...]
Early life
Nasheed was born in Detroit, Michigan and spent most of his youth in Birmingham, Alabama.[4]
[…]
Views and reception
Nasheed is known online for his controversial commentary on race.[18] He is a proponent of "Foundational Black Americans" (FBA), an ideology and movement he founded,[19] which is defined as, "any person classified as Black, who can trace their bloodline lineage back to the American system of slavery. To be designated as an FBA, at least one parent must come from a non-immigrant background in The United States of America." ...
Here's some more information about Foundational Black Americans:
Deletehttps://newsone.com/4375128/foundational-black-americans-explained/ "Foundational Black Americans: Who Are They And What Do They Stand For?"
Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch.
Written by Shannon Dawson, July 19, 2022
"Over the last year, you may have seen the phrase Foundational Black American (FBA) tossed around the internet thanks to the “World’s #1 Race Baiter,” Tariq Nasheed. In January, during a Twitter Spaces discussion, the controversial media personality sent the buzzword trending when he argued that Black Americans were the originators of the United States. Since then, the polarizing author and documentarian’s belief has attracted millions of supporters from the Black community, many of whom claim they too identify as a Foundational Black American. But what does the term mean exactly?
The History of the Foundational Black American
According to the Official FBA website, Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch. Followers of the ideology, however, believe that the origins and history of Foundational Black Americans did not begin at the start of slavery in the early 1600s. They strongly believe that FBA’s settled in North America in 1526, when they were allegedly brought over from the Caribbean by a “colonizer” named Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón.
Ayllón and 600 of his men settled on what would later become the South Carolina and Georgia Coast, but they weren’t there for long. The enslaved Black captives organized a successful rebellion against the Spanish colonizers, ultimately forcing them to retreat.
FBA historians believe that the liberated Black people integrated with local Native American tribes in the region and formed their own community and culture as a result."
[...]
FBA’s don’t believe in the concept of pan-Africanism. They believe they are a unique ethnic group with complex cultural and societal ideologies different from Africans and other Black immigrants. Community members often call those who do not identify with the culture “non-FBAs.”
Some FBA-identifying individuals believe that Africans and other Black immigrant communities do not respect them and their lived experiences throughout history."...
In my opinion (from the outside looking in), the concept and beliefs of Foundational Black Americans are very similar to the concept of ADOS (American Descendants Of Slaves). Some commenters in the YouTube discussion thread for Tariq Nasheed's vlog "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkjgPF6cTiI "Tariq Nasheed: The Difference Between ADOS & FBA",Tariq Radio, Nov. 10, 2019 had very negative opinions of Tariq Nasheed, labeling him a fake and a grifter. Those commenters wrote that Tariq Nasheed formulated the FBA movement as an offshoot of ADOS.
DeleteI should also note when I searched for information about FBA.
Google search led me to this ADOS Wikipedia page:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Descendants_of_Slavery.
For full disclosure, I don't consider myself a Foundational Black American or an American Descendant Of Slaves in part because I believe in pan-Africanism and in part because it seems to me that ADOS is quite closely aligned with United States Republican policies.
DeleteFurthermore, my maternal grandparents are from the Caribbean and I'm only second generation African American on that side. I take it that that would disqualify me from being a FBA if I wanted to be one.
On my paternal side my father was adopted (or long term fostered) by a Black family from Michigan. Therefore, I don't know anything about any enslaved ancestors who I probably had.
I should also note that I don't know any people who consider themselves to be ADOS or FBA and my guess is that few Black people are familiar with those referents.