Fania Records, Oct. 2, 2014
The "Ah Beep Beep" portion of these rhymes and chants have their source in that hit record.
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Edited by Azizi Powell
Latest Update: Feb. 13, 2022
This is Part II of a three part pancocojams series about the 1966 Boogaloo song "Bang Bang" (also known by its refrain "Beep Beep Ah").
I'm particularly interested in comments from Puerto Rican (Nuyoricans)* and African Americans about their memories of Joe Cuba's "Bang Bang" in New York City and in other United States cities. Because the referent "Nuyorican" is relatively unfamiliar, I've included some informationi about it in this post.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/02/joe-cubas-1966-hit-boogoloo-song-bang.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases a YouTube sound file of Joe Cuba's 1966 hit song "Bang Bang". Information about Joe Cuba is included in this post along with lyrics for that song.
Information about Boogaloo music and dance is also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Joe Cuba and other members of his band for their musical legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this sound file on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT NUYORICANS
From https://www.encyclopedia.com/social-sciences/applied-and-social-sciences-magazines/nuyoricans#:~:text=The%20term%20Nuyorican%20refers%20to,the%20island%20of%20Puerto%20Rico.&text=But%20it%20was%20rapidly%20adopted,youth%20of%20Puerto%20Rican%20extraction. [retrieved Feb. 12, 2022]
"The term Nuyorican refers to Puerto Ricans born or raised in New York City, or more broadly in the mainland United States, as distinguished from those from the island of Puerto Rico.
[…]
[…]
In more recent times some objections to the usage have
emerged because of the dispersal of U.S.-based Puerto Ricans and the emergence
of significant communities in other places, notably Philadelphia, Chicago,
Florida, and other cities in the Northeast such as Hartford, Connecticut;
Jersey City, New Jersey; and Springfield, Massachusetts. Though no new word has
arisen to replace the geographically specific Nuyorican, some writers and
others have toyed with such neologisms as diasporican and AmeRícan, the latter
a signature poem by well-known writer Tato Laviera. Terms clearly modeled after
Nuyorican, such as ChicagoRican and PhillyRican, have also cropped up, as has
nomenclature such as Dominican Yorks and MexYorks to name newer Latino groups
in New York City. In more recent times, change is also evident even in Puerto
Rico, …: The diaspora cultural experience has gained greater acceptance, receiving
frequent coverage in the media and cultural institutions, though often still in
reluctant or paternalistic terms. Among the youth on the island, many of whom
are from families of return migrants who were raised on the mainland, Nuyorican
has come to be a term of strong admiration and even emulation. Significantly,
Old San Juan now boasts the Nuyorican Café among its cultural nightspots. In
the days of hip hop, reggaetón, and spoken-word poetry, the long-standing gap
between island and diaspora cultural realities has finally come to narrow, and
the ironic, deeper meaning of the highly charged expression Nuyorican to come
full turn."
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SELECTED COMMENTS
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D2-QEVRlfs8&ab_channel=FaniaRecords
"love this song !!! Aaawww beep,beep...Awww,beep,beep.....Aaaww beep,beep ....Cornbread, hog maws and chitlins....Lechon,lechon !!!!"
-snip-
"Lechon" is Spanish for "piglet". Hog maws and chitlins are made from pork (pig).
2. SagesseNoir, 2018
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3. jsamc, 2019
"sho was !!"
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4. Vincent Youell, 2019
"Yup, especially in East LA"
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5. Sean, 2019
"And a lot of white NYC folks too"
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6. Maurice Marshall, 2020
"Can you blame us " Corn bread, hogmaw , and
chitlins" soul food rundown is in the chorus "sock it to me "
Beep, beep haaaa""
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7. Maurice Marshall, 2020
"@Sean Yeah this is very New York ( where Salsa was
created ) South Bronx."
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8. Meemee, 2020
"Detroit, 12th grade. YES!!!"
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9. SagesseNoir, 2018
"I normally think of corn bread, hog maw and chitlins as
traditional southern black cuisine, and yet here's a great Latin song. referring to this food. Maybe there's an
affinity between Latin and African cultures."
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10. Sabra Townsend, 2018
"Of course there is.
Afro-Cuban, bay-beeeeee!!"
-snip-
Actually, "Joe Cuba" was a stage name. Joe Cuba and his band members were Puerto Ricans in New York City (Nuyorican)
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11.SagesseNoir, 2018
"Alllllrrrright!"
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12. Afi Scruggs, 2019
"@SagesseNoirThis is Latin Bogaloo which was a
fusion that came out of New York. That's why it refers to corn bread, hog maw
and chitlins. Check out the documentary on the music."
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13. Ramon Rodriguez, 2018
"B B . . . bang bang . . . Hanky Panky with Joe . . . bad ass
! ! !"
-snip-
"Hanky Panky with Joe" is ab lib line from Joe Cuba's "Bang Bang" record that isn't included in the online lyrics that I've found for that song.
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14. Emmie Laure, 2019
"PBS special on tonight celebrating Hispanic culture & I here "ah, beep beep-bang bang"! oh the memories...brought me right back to N.Y. city projects with all the boogaloo street music The steel drums, maracas, & the bare foot dancing! I feel privileged to have grown up in that time. Ordered the cd tonight-will be dancing on my street soon!"
15. J Sabano, 2021
"This reminds me of the Bronx, when the graffitti was on walls, trains, handball courts and even the 42nd Precinct! lol! This song would play, at some point, from someone's window, car, barber shop or bodega every summer! Memories of piraguas, coquito's, local slice and soda specials, and bodega runs for chico sticks and quarter waters, just before we hit the ghetto water park (aka: open fire hydrant) flash in my minds eye! I miss those days... and now I officially feel old...!!!"
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16. Tony Cortina, 2020
"This was the first song I ever heard. Born in Manhattan than lived near Yankee Stadium in the 60’s. Lots of Puerto Rican/Spanish/ and Black Folks mixed with us Jewish Kids. And I love this song. Times were so much happier than and different. Now my kids listen to it. Beep Beep"
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Excerpt #2 [This is the video that is embedded in Part I of this pancocojams series.]
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MenOmqIBmIM&ab_channel=chinita41
1. puchie82766, 2009
"The music of Gilberto Miguel Calderon (Sonny)aka..Joe Cuba
was heard all the time during the early 1970's in my house....so much so that I
have become a dedicated collector of Afro-Cuban music in all it'
manifestations..Timba,Salsa,Songo..etc"
**
2. delta1023, 2009
"Haha....this and Che Che Cole. As soon as they came on
everyone went crazy."
**
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3. Aaron MrQ, 2010
"@delta1023 :
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4. Claude Chaney, 2009
"1968 was a banner year for latin music in New York City. Of
course there was Tito Puente (the King) but there was also Ricardo Ray, Joe
Quijano, Eddie Palmieri,
Ray Barretto, Johnny Colon, Hector Rivera and the man whose
song (Bang, Bang) was guaranteed to get people moving on the dance floor Joe
Cuba who gave us other classics like Oh Yeah, El Pito (I'll Never Go Back To
Georgia) and To Be With You. Joe Cuba will
be missed. R.I.P."
5. Richie Colon, 2009
"Lots and Lots of FABULOUS Memories with the familia dancing
the night away to this song."
6.
"I remember roller skating to this song. Back in the day, this was the song everybody
went crazy over. Everybody got on the
floor and skated to this song. Dancing and clapping to this soulful song which
appealed to everyone that had any rhythm in their blood. Latin Boogaloo all the
way!"
**
7. musicteachjw, 2010
"I woke up with this song on my head -- must have been hungry. At Alpha parties, we used to chant "beep beep ah" all night in Cleveland. I had to find it. Thanks for posting."
-snip-
“Alpha” probably is a referent for Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity. Inc, a historically Black Greek letter [university based organization.
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8. cousineddy, 2011
"If there's ever a group that knows how to party & jam =
Puerto Ricans to the max!"
**
9. Rick Watson, 2012
"The good old days when Blacks and Hispanics (Latinos) used to hang out and groove together in New York. Thank God those days are returning with Salsa and Sould being listened to by those of all of our cultures."
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10. Howard Luloff, 2012
"I rediscovered Bang Bang several years ago on a CD and it
brought back memories of hearing it on WABC in New York in the mid 60s. Joe Cuba was a little known Latin artist who
hit it big with this song. I think that
the version WABC played was shorter."
**
11. PlexusSlimNancy, 2012
"I CAN'T STOP listening to it over & over....I LOVE
THIS SONG. WOW what memories!!!! NYC and Newark NJ, my childhood. Growing up Puerto Rican in the Tri State area
I'd listen to this. I lived in Manhattan, Brooklyn and Newark and these songs were
always playing. My poor husband is a
white boy from Minnesota and he's like "are you going to stop listening
any time now"...hahhaha NO NO
NO. I love this music. thanks for he
memories."
**
12. Marilyn Maya MENDOZA, 2012
"I was brought up with Joe Cuba's music too in Brooklyn. I'm
Puerto Rican too. WEPA!"
-snip-
Here's information about the word "Wepa" from https://forum.wordreference.com/threads/wepa.259591/
"Ms.Roo said:
"¡Wepa!" is shouted often in salsa circles. I hear
it often enough that I understand it to be an exclamation of encouragement or
approval (to the dancers or musicians, usually), but can someone tell me what
it actually *means* and where it came from (PR, I believe).
Thanks!
Yes, that's the use for the word WEPA among us Puertoricans,
but there is also a shorter version, WEP, that some of us use as a form of
salutation, or to aknowledge someone's presence."
-snip-
Several commenters on that discussion thread wrote that other Latinos use the exclamation "Wepa!".
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13. Gabi Syderas, 2013
"Consegui achar esta música que ouvia na abertura de um
progama do Big Boy na rádio Mundial nos anos 60 e curtia muito, porém não ouvia
mais, pois só tocava um pedaço da música neste programa e nem sabia o nome, mas
nunca esqueci e tentava achá-la.Hoje 02 de maio de 2013 finalmente achei"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"I managed to find this song that I heard in the opening of a
Big Boy program on World radio in the 60's and I liked it a lot, but I didn't
listen to it anymore, because I only played a part of the song on this program
and I didn't even know the name, but I never forgot it and I tried to find it
-la.Today May 2, 2013 I finally found"
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14. pinto69ish, 2014
"thank you chinita, this is latin soul music."
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15. Geoffrey Phipps, 2014
"wow....this is growing up in harlem 1968 baby!!!!! long live boogaloo!!!!"
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16. fred martinez, 2015
"i grew up in 1960s bushwick brooklyn. these songs were blasting outta every corner bar in the hood back in the days,my pops was a friend of mr joe cuba and introduced me to him once but i had no idea who i was meeting till i was older. wish i knew back then"
17.
"Survivor2002: I must be in your mother's age
bracket. This song came out in 1966, I was14 years old. We were doing a dance
called the PHILLY DOG. I grew up in WATTS in the NICKERSON GARDENS PROJECT, and
ain't ashamed to admit it. Those were the days of, I really can't explain it
here it would take much too long; and this is long enough. But this song came
out at a time during immense social unrest, and brought a sort of ease to our
community. But my grandchildren & a couple of my children look at me like
you mentioned. This was one of my favorites also. Along with PATA PATA by
Miriam Makeba; which is also on YT, I just finished listening to it as well as
"GRAZING IN THE GRASS" by HUGH MASEKALA, I hope I spelled that right.
These ALL came out that same year. All I can say now is: GROOVY, MAN, GROOVY!!!
AND READ AND MEDITATE ON YOUR BIBLE AS OFTEN AS YOU CAN. JOHN 17"
**
18. amsedelm, 2016
"Wow what memories when I was 10 yrs old. 8)) And the first
song to say Sock it to me! lol"
**
19. MrSymbiosis1, 2017
"this song was used in 'A Bronx Tale', 'Carlito's Way',
'The Scout', 'El Cantante', Wolf of', 'Chef', AND I know I'm missing one. RVC"
20. caddyjoint96, 2017
" "
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21. Enrique Caro, 2017
"That is exactly what our salsa is all about, a confluence of
sounds, rhythms and culture that encompasses all of the Spanish speaking
countries, Africa and the fusion in the USA."
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22. kwacou, 2018
"Salsa is African.
Cuban son to rumba to salsa."
23. Doris Leyba, 2017
"
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24. Gail Starke, 2017
"Brings back so many pleasant memories. We'd tear the dance
floor up when this song came on."
25.
"Oh God…memories! How a song can take you almost 50 years back. I’m playing in the streets of Newark…playing kick-ball with my friends…listening to this music blare out of every Puerto Rican household window...which was pretty much my whole neighborhood. LOL My dad is alive and young. I’m eating coconut ice cream from the push cart ice cream vendor…its summer time in Newark NJ….or I’m in Brooklyn….or Manhattan NY where I spent countless summers with cousins!"
26.
"Hey:
Usado en el show
de comedia mexicano de los años
70-80'sm de La Carabina de Ambrosio, el
sketch de Kin Kin
:)
-¡Saludos!"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English
"Hey:
Used in the 70's-80's Mexican comedy show La Carabina de Ambrosio, the Kin Kin
skit
:)
Cheers!"
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27. p.g. curtwright, 2019
"this song was a big hit with Black Chicago... so nice to
hear it again!"
**
28, Antonio Montana, 2019
"Born and raised in the BOOGIEDOWN blacks and Puerto Ricans
jammed so hard to this, and I say today nothing out nowhere can touch this
song, not for debate period bang bang 💯🔥♨️😤🎭😈💋❤️R.
I. PARIDISE Mr J CUBA thanks for the memories."
-snip-
“The BoogieDown” is a nickname for the Bronx, New York
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29, dianne white, 2019
"My Dad partied with these Fabulous Men....Puerto Rican Pride
Day 2019!!......Bang Bang"
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30. Julio Soto, 2019
"En Cali Colombia se sigue escuchando la Música del sexteto
de Joe Cuba."
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"In Cali Colombia, the music of the Joe Cuba sextet continues
to be heard."
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31. Danny Phantom, 2020
"Yeah Joe Cuba was puerto rican, he's my grandpa, Joe Cuba
was his stage name, not his actual name"
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32. outwiththem, 2020
" @Danny
Phantom Same as Cuban Pete. He was from Puerto Rican parents too. But the Mafia, who owned the casinos in Cuba
wanted to promote Cuba and wanted only musicians with Cuba name on them, not
Puerto Rico were they had less power there.
Funny Fidel Castro kicked them all in 1959. "Cuban Pete' was the creator of the
Mambo kind of dancing famous all over the world as Salsa Dancing".. Im a Silver Level Ballroom Dancer.."
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33. Temer de souza curi filho, 2020
"Tema do ritmos de boate da rádio mundial do Rio de Janeiro ,
com o saudoso apresentador big boy!"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"Theme of the nightclub rhythms of the world radio of Rio de
Janeiro, with the late presenter big boy!"
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34. thisisnottherealochsenhaut, 2020
"Que Bueno! Nuyoricans representa!"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"That Good! Nuyoricans represents!"
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35. jcarlos ayres, 2020
"Durante anos tentei saber quem cantava está música que era o
prefixo de um programa que começava as 23hs na rádio mundial aqui no BRASIL
isto tudo nos anos 70 o locutor era BIG BOY mas ele nunca falava o nome das
músicas ou cantores depois ele faleceu e agora descobri a música aqui no you
tube"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"For years I tried to find out who sang this song that was
the prefix of a program that started at 11 pm on world radio here in BRAZIL all
this in the 70's the announcer was BIG BOY but he never spoke the name of the
songs or singers after he died and now I found the song here on you tube"
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36. jcarlos ayres, 2020
"Programa RITMOS DE BOATE na rádio MUNDIAL"
-snip-
Google translate from Spanish to English:
"RHYTHMS DE BOATE program on WORLD radio"
37.
"1968 high school junior ,this was in the radio all the
time!!!"
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38. Michael Tyler, 2020
"Heard this song when younger living St. Louis and never knew
the name or the artist. Man, the memories. My first exposure to Afro Latin
sound"
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39. Carter Bostic, 2020
"Those were the best days ever..... sny given time when fania was not touring, block parties in el barrio & Spanish Harlem were given at anytime. No permits had to be authorized from the police dept. Everybody chipped in to help. Home cooked food was made & sold on the streets while partying on the rooftops as well. Slamlocks were off from the apt doors.... anyone could come in & enjoy getting some food & drinks... while the bands were performing on the blocks of the streets. The power would come from the lamposts of the street. So many beautiful women to dance salsa & boogaloo.... I'm so blessed & grateful that I grew up in that era.... to have expencied that was phenomenal! La viva!"
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40. Troy C. Jones 81, 2020
"Because our family was infused with Latinos from Puerto Rico
and Ecuador this was a signature piece at our family gatherings. What a
wonderful world of oneness it was. I love my Latin uncles o mis tios Latinos
muy mucho."
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41. NYC Songman, 2021
"Monster hit here in 1967. I was 10. My dear sister, Mary was my conduit to the glorious sounds of R&B, soul, and Latin."
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42. Robin Steinfeld, 2021
"Sitting on the steps of Washington Elementary in
Hempstead,NY ,friends brought their huge drums ,other percussions but mostly
all of us singing this and even dancing ,this and more from Joe Cuba to Tito
Puente it was Heaven on earth !"
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43. Felipe TORRES, 2022
"🇵🇷 Puerto Rico in New York, that's the way I see it. Incomparable, our music 🎵🎶 was all over the city 24/7 miss those days, it's sad...very."
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Excerpt #3:
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lanGvlnBt6c&ab_channel=NBCNews
1. Lupe C., 2017
“I came to the states in May 1966. I was then, 7 and remember dancing to the
Boogaloo songs at family parties. I
remember listening to Joe Bataan, Pete Rodriguez, Joe Cuba, Richie Ray &
Bobby Cruz, Ray Barretto, etc. I'm glad that Mr. Ramirez Warren decided to make
a documentary about this funky latin music from the 1960's. Congrats!!!!”
**
2. Iasciate Ogni Speranza, 2018
“It was never forgotten, it was mixed , wrongly, with Salsa. The Barrio and
Bronx sounds eventually merged and resulted in Watusi, Boogaloo, Salsa and
Disco ( afro american side) The roots
were in jazz, guajira , montuno and rock.
What a Wonderful generation of musicians.”
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3.
"And now we have CARDI B bringing it back OLD skool style New
skool style ...LOVING IT...My mom used the term boogaloo all the time,
particularly when describing someting that freaked you out or scared you..."had
me doing the Boogaloo!" LMAO! And
as kids on the street in Brooklyn, we used to sing "Ahh beep beep, walking
down the street, 10 times a week, ungawa black power, destroy white boy, I said
it, I meant it, I simply represent it, I'm cool, I'm calm, I'm soul sista
number 9, sock it to me one more time!" --sign of the times huh?"
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4. Laura Milagros, 2020
"6/19/20 ... Calif Boricua-Cubana here .. born 1954. Aaaah ... ¡Sí! ... those were such great days!
I would go nuts when I heard El Pito, Bang, Bang, I Like It Like
That, (sorry, but the sampled version
done in 2020 just SUCKS! 😝👎 What a way to
butcher/ruin a classic!) & El Watusi (charanga) & La Bamba (Rock con
clave .. ¡'na' ma'! ... by Richie Valenzuela, Pacoima, ♡CA♡
... La Bamba became my cariño as a kid bc I loved that song so much). There are
so many other great/fun Bugalú songs I
could mention. I still listen to them
& do the dance bc it became a part
of WHO I AM just as did the Twist, the
Jerk, the Mashed Potato, the Shimmee, Hully Gully, Surfer Stomp & the
Stroll. Aint nuthin' like the 60s,
baybee! On into the 70s & 80s ...
got totally amped on Fania y Salsa. ¡Guepa y A'i na' ma'!
We Latinos have made a definite mark on music in America. So glad a Boogaloo doc is coming out this
year! Adelante pa' 'lante, vencimos....
beep, beep!"
-snip-
Boricua = "a person from Puerto Rico by birth or descent." [from various websites]
Here's a quote from https://www.history.com/topics/us-states/puerto-rico-history
"Puerto Rico’s native Taíno population—whose hunter-gatherer
ancestors settled the island more than 1,000 years before the Spanish
arrived—called it Borinquén, and referred to themselves as boricua (a term that
is still used today)."
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This concludes Part II of this three part pancocojams series.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
With regard to the use of the referents "Blacks and Puerto Ricans" in these comments, it's important to remember that a significant number of Puerto Ricans are of Black African descent. Therefore, the wordage Blacks and Puerto Ricans" is erroneous. It's likely that people using this wordage actually mean "African Americans and Puerto Ricans".
ReplyDeleteHere's a quote from https://minorityrights.org/minorities/afro-puerto-ricans/ "Afro-Puerto Ricans
Profile
Censuses from the 1950s have not included ethnicity and it is difficult to quantify Afro-Puerto Ricans as a percentage of the population. Estimates range from 22 per cent to 65 per cent. Afro-Puerto Ricans were among the first non-indigenous people to arrive on the shores of Puerto Rico and can therefore look back to a more that 500-year presence however long enduring prejudices still affect their lives."...
A history of slavery (abolished in 1873) and plantation agriculture has left a significant population of African descent in Puerto Rico, sometimes referred to as gente de color (people of colour).
To extend what I wrote in that first comment, since the referent "African American" is such a catch-all, generic term for "Black people from the United States", people can be both "Puerto Rican" and "African American".
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