Comments Comparing Nigerian AfroBeats Singer Tiwa Savage With African American Pop Singer Beyoncé And With Nigerian Singer Yemi Alade

 Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of a two part pancocojams post about Nigerian Afrobeats singer Tiwa Savage.

This pancocojams series provides some examples from the discussion thread of that video about comments comparing Tiwa Savage and African American singer Beyoncé and with Nigerian Afrobeats singer Yemi Alade.
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Some information about Beyoncé is also included in this post along with some information about Yemi Alade. (Some information about Tiwa Savage is included in Part I of this pancocojams series.) 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/06/nigerian-afrobeats-singertiwa-savage.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. Part I showcases the official January 2020 YouTube music video of Tiwa Savage's song "Koroba" and provides information about that Nigerian singer/songwriter. This post also provides information about the meaning of Tiwa Savage's "Koroba" and selected comments from this video's discussion thread. Some of those comments document that the word "koroba" means "bucket" in the Niger-Congo language of Yoruba and "koroba" means "mop the floor" in a number of Bantu languages.  

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural purposes.  

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/05/comments-that-compare-south-african.html "Comments That Compare South African Dancer/Singer Kamo Mphele With Beyonce, Or Chris Brown, Or Certain Other American Singers" and https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/05/comments-comparing-south-african-singer.html "Comments Comparing South African Singer Tyla With American Singer Ariana Grande" for closely related pancocojams posts. 

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INFORMATION ABOUT BEYONCE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beyonc%C3%A9

"Beyoncé Giselle Knowles-Carter (/biːˈjɒnseɪ/ bee-YON-say; née Knowles; born September 4, 1981)[6] is an American singer and actress. Born and raised in Houston, Texas, Beyoncé performed in various singing and dancing competitions as a child. She rose to fame in the late 1990s as the lead singer of Destiny's Child, one of the best-selling girl groups of all time. Their hiatus saw the release of her first solo album, Dangerously in Love (2003), which featured the US Billboard Hot 100 number-one singles "Crazy in Love" and "Baby Boy".

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Beyoncé is one of the world's best-selling recording artists, having sold 118 million records worldwide.[7] She is the first artist to debut at number one on the Billboard 200 with their first six solo studio albums.[8] Her success during the 2000s was recognized with the RIAA's Top Certified Artist of the Decade as well as Billboard's Top Female Artist of the Decade.[9] Beyoncé's accolades include 28 Grammy Awards, 26 MTV Video Music Awards (including the Michael Jackson Video Vanguard Award in 2014), 24 NAACP Image Awards, 31 BET Awards, and 17 Soul Train Music Awards; all of which are more than any other singer. In 2014, Billboard named her the highest-earning black musician of all time, while in 2020, she was included on Time's list of 100 women who defined the last century.[10]"...

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INFORMATION ABOUT NIGERIAN AFROBEATS SINGER YEMI ALADE
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yemi_Alade
"Yemi Eberechi Alade (born on 13 March 1989), is a Nigerian Afropop singer, songwriter, actress and activist.[1] She won the Peak Talent Show in 2009 after which she signed to Effyzzie Music Group, and had a hit with her single "Johnny" in 2014.[2][3][4] Since then Yemi has gained prominence in the music industry and considered one of the biggest artistes in Africa.[5] Following the releases of her albums King of Queens and Mama Africa with huge commercial success recorded for both albums, this made her embark on world tours consecutively.

She won the MTV African Music Awards for Best female in 2015 and 2016 consecutively and was nominated for Artiste of the Year in 2015, making her the first female to win the MAMAs for Best female consecutively twice and nominated for Artiste of the Year. In 2015, Alade was the first Nigerian female to be nominated for the MTV Europe Music Awards (EMAs) for Best African Act and was nominated for the BET awards for Best International Act: Africa in 2015 and 2016. Yemi is also applauded for her creative and overwhelming stage performances, fashion and music videos,[6][7][8][9] She has won The Headies Award for Best Performer twice, 2018 and 2019. The slot was initiated at The Headies 2018 and she was the first artiste to win the category.[10][11]

Alade sings in English, Igbo, Pidgin, Yoruba, French, Swahili and Portuguese. Her music has been of influence in many African countries and the world as she is acclaimed "Mama Africa" for her versatility in using different African languages and attires in her songs and music videos.[1]"...

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE

I read A LOT of that discussion thread and only stopped when my computer stopped loading additional comments. These quotes are only a sample of the "comparison comments" that I read  in that discussion thread. 

Also, some comments from the sub-threads (replies to comments) featured in this post aren't included in this compilation. 

In addition, some of these comments Tiwa Savage with Yemi Alade, another Nigerian Afrobeats singer who some Nigerians have also compared with  Beyoncé

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD OF TIWA SAVAGE'S OFFICIAL YOUTUBE VIDEO FOR "KOROBA" [This video is embedded in Part I of this pancocojams series.]

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5goMslKxEWs&ab_channel=TiwaSavageTiwaSavageOfficialArtistChannel

Numbers added for referencing purposes only.

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1. Victor Omoseh
"Tiwa savage is the Beyonce of Africa,  argue with your parents."

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2. Plenty Swagger
"No need bro"

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3. Haja Mennah Kargbo
"I agree with you"

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4. Abigail Vincent
"😂😂😂😂 bad advice if the parents are naija. Issa suicide."

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5. Sanah
"Her content is purely African in its own right ,so I say better than Beyonce .She is a queen in her own Lane PERIODTT!"

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6. Jessica Irambona
"Yes because yemi alade is french 🙄

Stop sleeping on yemi people! Have ever seen her live? Singing,dancing, live band, i mean putting on a show!! I love tiwa she is amazing, but yemi is yemi🤷🏾‍♀"
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Yemi Alade is a Nigerian Afrobeats singer. One of her very popular songs is the 2014 song "Johnny" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_XkTKoDI18&ab_channel=YemiAladeVEVO 

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7. Chan Orou
"@Abigail Vincent  😂😂😂😂😂"

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8. Prince Ken
" @Jessica Irambona  shut up

What has yemi had to do with it

So if they want to choose African Beyonce it will be yemi?

U are mad af"

If u haven't seen tiwa savage dance

Then ur a big fool

Who told u tiwa hasn't danced when performing x"

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9. Madira Francisco
"No she the Tiwa Savage of Africa and the world peridot!!!"

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10. Jessica Irambona
"@Prince Ken  ok man, that's your opininon but no, i will no shut up because i have the right to say what i think.. enjoy the music and chill 🤗"

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11.  David Bassey
"With her trash music? Lmfaoooo"

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12. Prince Ken
"@Jessica Irambona  of cos I'm enjoying it

That's why I don't want anyone to ruin my moment watching it"

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13. Prince Ken
"@The Fusion Show  yemi"

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14. Oroko Naboba
"I taught Yemi Alade was??"
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15. GraPe sEeds
"lowe it man Yemi AND Tiwa are both super talented artists if you have a preference you have a preference"

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16. Sanah
"@Wilmina Robinson  yeah you right it takes from an artist authenticity"
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I didn't retrieve any comment from Wilmina Robinson, and couldn't find it when I went back looking for it. That's unfortunate since that comment is referred to by several other commenters. Given her name, Wilmina Robinson is probably African American and given the responses to her comment, she probably was against comparing these artists with each other. 

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17. Jessica Irambona
"@Prince Ken  if a comment can ruin a video music of you fave, that's really sad man😂😂😂😂😂"

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18. Jessica Irambona
"The Fusion Show  i responded to the comment up there about tiwa being the beyonce of Africa.. so i gave my opinion, because i the right to do it😂😂"

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19. Tee Jay
"@Jessica Irambona  are you okay, how TF did you manage to sneak in yemi in this conversation. We don't care about her cultural dance on stage and keep your opinion to yourself. BTW Tiwa has always been referred to as Beyonce of Naija right from day one. Don't come and tell is whom to stay woke on here pls."

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20. Jessica Irambona
"@Tee Jay  your opinion and i respect that.. but once again i love yemi, and i can put her name everywhere i want to.. so, enjoy your fave's music and let people have their own opinion😉"

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21. Tee Jay
"@Jessica Irambona  just shush it already, nobody hates yemi, but bringing her name in this convo doesn't make any sense."

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22. Jessica Irambona
"@Tee Jay  it makes sense to me because there is a statement that have been made that i didn't agree with.. like i said i love tiwa, she is amazing.. but for me(i speak personally and i have the right to do it whether you agree or disagree) yemi is the Beyoncé of Africa not tiwa.. that's it"

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23. Tee Jay
"@Jessica Irambona  okay it's your opinion bye."

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24. Jessica Irambona
"@Tee Jay  baaayiiii 😁😂😂"

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25. Prince Ken
"@Jessica Irambona  don't u get it

U are distracting me ok

Don't ruin it"

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26. Victor Omoseh
"@Jessica Irambona  you need to understand that Benz and toyota are not the same."

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27. Jessica Irambona
"@Victor Omoseh  they are both cars😂😂 and they can take you from one place to an other so🤷🏾‍♀️ i don't care, yemi still the best for me.."

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28. Victor Omoseh
"@Jessica Irambona  yes,  but know that one will take you there quicker 😉"

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29. Jessica Irambona
"@Victor Omoseh  as long as i get where i want to go, i don't care mate😂😂😂😂"

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30. Marie Gold
"@Jessica Irambona  oh yeah i love her too " I'M LOOKING FOR MY JONNY! QUEWWWSSSSSSSTION !? WHERE IS MY JHONNY !?"😄😍"
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These were lyrics that were repeated in Yemi Alade's megahit song "Johnny". 

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31. Ramsey Ifada
"@Jessica Irambona  you're just being childish"

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32. ndeye-maty fall
"She is Rihanna and Yemi is beyonce i though"
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Rihanna is an African American Pop singer.

Another commenter (Cidney Oliver) wrote that Tiwa Savage "is like a Kelly Roland - Petra mix!!".  I think the Petra that that commenter may have been referring to is Petra Bockles, a rapper singer of Kenyan/Seychellois ancestry. I also believe that-unlike the other commenters in that discussion thread- Cidney Oliver was referring to Tiwa Savage's physical appearance. 

I agree with her that Tiwa Savage looks a lot like Kelly Roland (a member of Destiny's Child, the same girl group that Beyonce was a member of) and Petra Bockles. 

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33. Victor Omoseh
"@ndeye-maty fall pls is the other way around."

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34. Jessica Irambona
"@Ramsey Ifada  yemi is more complete as an artist.. she is not a good singer or dancer or performer, she is a whole package.. where tiwa is good too, amazing i'll say but not as good and complete as yemi.. once again my opinion.. you don't agree fine.. i don't care because i doesn't matter if people agrees with me or not as long as i am good with what i believe in, everybody is free to feel what they want.."

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35. Ramsey Ifada
"@Jessica Irambona  yemi is good, she is versatile, sings with languages like French(johnny), Swahili (nakupenda) and Kenya(Na gode remix). I'm also a fan of her, she also has energetic stage performance but Tiwa savage is a woman who made Afro beat know in Nigeria and worldwide, her first single kele kele opened the way for most the divas in music industry. Tiwas diversity cannot be matched. Afro beat, highlife, blues, reggae and even more. Tiwa savage is well know internationally than any other artist, which makes her the Beyonce of African music"

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36. Gaius Ukaegbu
"except Beyonce is married to a billionaire, not shipping around a boy who looks like wizkid."
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Wizkid is a Nigerian Afrobeat singer.

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37. Victor Omoseh
"@Gaius Ukaegbu  wrong"

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38. Gaius Ukaegbu
"@Victor Omoseh  Argue with ur mirror."

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39. Aderinsola Adesida
"Jessica Irambona  I was going to say. I feel she has not done as much as Yemi Alade"

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40. Aderinsola Adesida
"@Wilmina Robinson  I understand what you mean but it's not a random western artist that's actually only big in the U.S. (cuz those comparisons are definitely irritating when talking about our Nigerian superstars), however Beyonce is one of the top global stars so that's a compliment. I'm sure Tiwa would love to do as much in sales, concerts and streams as she has. She used to be one of her backup singers sef."

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41. Isidora Johnson
"Lol you insulted her all by yourself!!! She is TIWA , Beyoncé is herself 😊"

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42. Ano nyme
"We have our own African Queens we don't need to compare them with Beyonce."

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43. Julz B
"Lmaoooo at argue with your parents

😂😂😂"

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44. Will Ifeanyi
"Jessica Irambona totally agree with you ;Tiwa is good yemi Alade is better"

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45. NAME:Anonymous NICKNAME:unidentified
"What do you mean Beyoncé of Africa, She is Tiwa savage and the only Tiwa Savage of Africa"

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46. Omega Nine
"Wilmina Robinson  Why? Eyes are always on Western styles.The clothes, the hair, the lingo, the food and drink, its nothing new."

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47. Anita Metu
"@Sanah  yes oh, she's our queen our very own."

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48. hannah60000
"Tiwa Savage is the Tiwa Savage of Nigeria and Africa."

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49. Eustace Kaputula
"Shes better than Beyonce"

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50. Madam Excellence
"Beyoncé should stay in her lane. Tiwa is a full fledged Nigerian"

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51.Victor Omoseh
"@Madam Excellence  really?"

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52. I Exist
"She is the Tiwa Savage of Tiwa Savage. Abeg stop the comparison she is one of her kind."

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53. Chisom Julian
"Yes oo oo"

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54. VoonSoccer
"Tiwa is jx like Beyonce in Africa 💫⚡"

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55. Edo Mixtapes
"Beyoncé is a knock off version of Tiwa Savage"

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56. Anita Metu
"PLZ, I HAVE SEEN ENOUGH OF TIWA SAVAGE IS THE BEYONCE OF AFRICA, THAT'S A BIG LIE, SHE'S WAY BETTER BECAUSE SHE'S OURS, SO NOBODY SHOULD BELITTLE HER BY COMPARING HER TO WESTERN ARTISTS, WE SHOULD LEARN TO LOVE OURS FOR WHO THEY ARE, NOT JXT TIWA BUT ANY OTHER AFRICAN ARTIST."

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57. yesmin Reeves
"yes. im not african, im african american, but i agree 100,000%"

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58. June Sovereign
"Comparing Tiwa to Beyonce is belittling Tiwa???"

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59. June Sovereign
"DO YOU EVEN KNOW WHO BEYONCE IS???"

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60. Anita Metu
"@June Sovereign  yh, I do"

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61. Ibiyemi Abiola
"Beyonce is a black woman too, look at Blue Ivy her daughter she inherit the black look too. Go and watch black skin girl by Beyonce believe me you will Love her more. I love the two artist though I listen to Tiwa than Beyonce. Up Nigeria! Up Africans! Up Black People out there!!"

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62. Ebony Will
"Yemi is better. Tiwa songs are trash."

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63. Ebony Will
"Tiwa can never be Beyoncé."

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64. Anita Metu
"@Ebony Will  she doesn't need to be, she is our very own African Queen 👑 so   I am okay with that."

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65. Hannah
"I’m Nigerian but get off that high horse that everything Nigerian is better that’s why AA hate us, their both beautiful talented woman."

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66. Anita Metu
"@Hannah  😂😂 wawu, this Jxt got interesting but you can argue with yourself😘"

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67. Kujbi 19
"I feeel u are the one doing the comparism I mean they are both black women we should be proud of both of them not putting the other one higher or praising the other one they are both queens smh 🤦🏾‍♀‍ it’s just sad"

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68. Anita Metu
"@Kujbi 19  okay before this issue escalates all I am trying to say is that we should love and appreciate our artiste for who they are and not do things like Tiwa is the Beyonce of Africa or Sauti Sol of Kenya is one popular American band of Africa, it's pathetic it's like children looking at their parents and asking if it's okay to like this artiste or whoever.

Sorry, I was trying to say looking for western validation to regard them, when they are dope artiste in their own right."

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69. Faith Maritim
"Facts 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🖤"

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70. Kaleah Collins
"You do forget WE COME FROM YOU. ITS WHAT WE REMEMBERED ITS WHATS IN OUR BLOOD THE MIX OF NATIONS AND TRIBES MAKES BLACK AMERICANS . WE INVENTED THE R& B BLUES GOSPEL HIP HOP JAZZ ETC WITH WHAT WE REMEMBERED FROM.HOME IT WAS CARRIED IN THE BLOOD . AND GIVEN BACK TO YOU BY INFLUENCES"

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71. Imaniconnie
"Preachhhh. African American and agree 💯💯💯 (also I've always preferred Queen Tiwa 🌻🌍✊🏿)"

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72. M B
"Both are Queens (black) queens at that who worked hard for their individual names. Tiwa and Beyoncé are both influences to women of color regardless of being from the west or Africa."

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73. Imaniconnie
"@Kujbi 19  thisssss ultimately though. We're all Africans, whether descended, or blessed to still be in our lands. Beyonce could even be Tiwa's long lost cousin, ripped from Africa all those centuries ago. As a proud African (american, not by choice, but by enslavement) we should be able to see the ROYALTY in both of these African Queens 🌍🙏🏿💓🤗😚"

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74. Imaniconnie
"@Kaleah Collins  💓💓yesss💓💓 Let us not forget where Beyonce came from...both Black Queens, but if anything Beyonce is the Tiwa of the U.S. or West, if we're going off origin and history, while in the present. ✊🏿🌍"

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75. Imaniconnie
"@Kaleah Collins  God, I just love this comment. "We came from you..." so accurate. We're soooo much more similar as Africans from, and taken to, around the world, like Beyonce, Stefflon, etc and of course those who were blessed enough to stay on their lands, like Tiwa, or Yemi. It's all so relative but in the end, Africa is home to all of us Africans ripped from Her so long ago. Cannot wait to return to the sweet, loving Continent 💓🇧🇯🇬🇭🇹🇬

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76. Lydia foster
"Mentioning Beyoncé’s name ? Miss don’t look for trouble"

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77. Jas Swanson
"I wouldn’t say better I get what you’re saying. Don’t compare women we all can win"

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78. Chanel Young
"It's sad owe don't compare her to her because there is no comparison they are both black beautiful women period that's how white american divide us because we are already divided within they both amazing period"

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79. Fer wallace
"No daaaaarling...... Beyoncé is the Tiwa of America lol"

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80. Salamata Diallo
"PeriodT to the T"

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81. Felicia Kelley
"Why must we put down one to uplift the other!!

Why can’t both talented women be honored??"

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82. MISKE MOHAMUD
"Beyoncé is also african woman where ever she was born I don’t like the narrative of sending African American away"

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83. Felicia Kelley
"@MISKE MOHAMUD  EXACTLY"

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84. Spicy mami
"@Anita Metu  you're not only delusional but you're very dumb!!!

I will encourage others not to even reply this foolishness!!!

Even all our favourite African artistes are inspired by mostly these African American artists and there is nothing wrong with it as long as they stay true to their roots.

But I know they won't mind doing pop music when they get signed to International labels.

Lmao

Girl bye!!!"

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85. Sonnie E.
"Belittle??? Hardly. Its a compliment. I can name plenty of African American artists that are internationally well known. I can't name not one African one.🤷🏾‍♀‍  "She ours." Really? That same envy & hate yall spread to AA, you need to have that same energy to all them settlers coming in from China & Europe taking over yall land & country."

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86. Jahlive69
"Tiwa can actually SING, not sure how anyone could dare try to compare her with Booyonce!

Not only a better singer, but she’s singing in 2 languages 🤯 👌🏼 💚"

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87. Zha Ka
"Watch out Beyoncé."

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