Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part pancocojams post about South African singer/dancer Tyla.
This pancocojams post showcases the official 2021 YouTube music video of Tyla's song "Getting Late". This post also provides some examples from the discussion thread of that video about comments comparing Tyla and (White American) Pop singer Ariana Grande.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/05/tyla-getting-late-official-video-ft.html for Part I showcases the official January 2021 YouTube music video of Tyla's late 2019 song "Getting Late" That post also presents some information about Tyla as well as information about the song "Getting Late".
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to singer/dancer Tyla for composing and performing this song. Thanks also to her producer Kooldrink and all those who are associated with this embedded video and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
There are lots of comments in the discussion thread for the official YouTube music video "Getting Late" which compare South African singer Tyla with (White American) Pop singer Ariana Grande. This post documents a selection of those comments.
Some commenters wrote that Tyla is the "Coloured Ariana Grande". The word "Colored" means something different in South Africa than it does in the United States. Here's information about the South African meaning of the word "Coloured":
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coloureds
"Coloureds (Afrikaans: Kleurlinge or Bruinmense, lit.
"Brown people") are a multiracial ethnic group native to Southern
Africa who have ancestry from more than one of the various populations
inhabiting the region, including Khoisan, Bantu, European, Austronesian, East
Asian or South Asian. Because of the combination of ethnicities, different
families and individuals within a family may have a variety of different
physical features.[7][8] Coloured was a legally defined racial classification
during apartheid.[8][9]
In the Western Cape, a distinctive Cape Coloured and affiliated Cape Malay culture developed. In other parts of Southern Africa, people classified as Coloured were usually the descendants of individuals from two distinct ethnicities. Genetic studies suggest the group has the highest levels of mixed ancestry in the world."...
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Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ariana_Grande for information about Ariana Grande
Here's the beginning of that page:
Ariana
Grande-Butera ... born June 26, 1993) is an American
singer and actress. She has received numerous accolades throughout her career,
including two Grammy Awards, one Brit Award, two Billboard Music Awards, three
American Music Awards, nine MTV Video Music Awards, and 22 Guinness World
Records."...
Also, click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kN0iD0pI3o0&ab_channel=ArianaGrandeArianaGrandeOfficialArtistChannel for a 2018 YouTube video of "breathin" by Ariana Grande.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS MUSIC VIDEO:
COMMENTS THAT COMPARE TYLA WITH ARIANA GRANDE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v6Tct3AAre0
These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only.
1. Linergy. za, Feb. 2021
"South African Ariana Grande😭✨"
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2. Tayla-lee kannemeyer, Feb 2021
"I see this girl doing BIG THINGS & GOING PLACES &
reaching so much views and this song being a HIT🥺🥺🥺. Our
very own coloured Ariana 🇿🇦💕"
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3. Daze Kiprop, Feb. 2021
"She gives me a lot of
Ariana Grande vibes😍😍wooow this is
just so dope...love from Kenya🇰🇪🇰🇪"
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4. S!ve ?, Feb. 2021
"At first definitely.. now not at all
She gives me Tyla vibes"
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5. Lessly Shxne, Feb. 2021
"#africanariana"
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6. Polar Patel, Feb. 2021
"Fr fr💕"
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7. Nombulelo Faith, Feb. 2021
"Just what I thought ❤"
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8. AstroEsthetician LLC, Feb. 2021
"They look A LOT ALIKE"
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9. Irfaan Davids, Feb. 2021
"No doubt!!"
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10. Tumza Peach, Feb. 2021
"Y'all are crazy☠"
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11. Kido K, Feb. 2021
"They look alike and sound alike that's crazy lol🙆🏾♂"
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12. FridaysFinest SA, Feb. 2021
"Superstar Vibes 💯🌠🌠"
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13. nompumelelo gwala, Feb. 2021
"I
lowkey thought it was Ariana cabanga"
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Here's information about the Zulu word "cabanga" from https://www.wordhippo.com/what-is/the-meaning-of/zulu-word-84f515fd40d9861bdb2e8207a56391ee4347ae33.html
"cabanga: Zulu, think, consider, imagine"...
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In the context of that comment, "cabanga" might mean something like the
colloquial meaning of “Imagine that.”
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14. Dominique Williams, Feb. 2021
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15. Blessing O., April 2021
"Ariana could never! Tyla is unique periodt."
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16. Amo Sebona, Feb. 2021
"She is not the South African Ariana Grande💙💜, she is ❇Tyla❇"
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17. Blessed Ncube, Feb. 2021
"Hayii guys this sounds like Ariana Grande on Amapiano😂"
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18. Kangwa Chewe, Feb. 2021
"I thought the same thing 😂but I thought people would disagree"
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19. Mulanga Madima, Feb. 2021
"Even her mannerisms are like Arianas"
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20. Nokuthula Nyandeni
"My thoughts exactly"
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21. Nicole Massambiro
"At first I thought she was Ariana grand lmao"
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22. Mabbs Emm Jnr, Feb. 2021
"Even this video imitates 7 rings by Ariana"
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23. Gilbert Eretchabor, Feb. 2021
"Let’s not get ahead of ourselves she’s good but not that level maybe rank her with dua lipa"
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24. LADY Z-A-R, Feb. 2021
"She looks like her as well haaaaaaaaaaa"
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25. Ms Lollylolly, Feb. 2021
"i agree!!!!"
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26. vanessa mkwate, Feb. 2021
"Honestly man. Even the voice"
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27. Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni, Feb. 2021
"@Gilbert Eretchabor How dare you?! This is why people don't think highly of people who deserve it. Ariana is already successful so why bring down those who are still coming in?!!!!"
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28. Galmoo Abduselam, Feb. 2021
"But she’s much more attractive then her"
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29. Kheii, Feb. 2021
"Ariana Could NEVERRRR"
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30. Butterfly Sethu, Feb. 2021
"Exactly😂"
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31. Craig Ndomene, Feb. 2021
"Exactly its ariana style"
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32. vanessa mkwate, Feb. 2021
"Honestly man. Even the voice"
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33. Sasuke Uchiha, March 2021
"@Gilbert Eretchabor nah g that's a violation"
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34. Champagne Mami, April 2021
" @Galmoo Abduselam no comparing is allowed here🤞🤞"
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35. Galmoo Abduselam, April 2021
"@Champagne Mami true. Black women women are the most attractive. No comparison"
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36. Tee Wilson, Feb 2021
"This is Tyla... Write her name instead of calling her south Africa's Ariana. I'm sure she worked hard to get here, stop putting her under Ariana's shadow. Let only she shine please."
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37. Kheii, Feb. 2021
"Honestly the disrespect..."
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38. Ms Lollylolly, Feb. 2021
"Yoh just relax. its a compliment"
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39. Tee Wilson, Feb. 2021
"@Ms Lollylolly in showbiz it's all about your name being known miss/mrs/mam... That's why Mariah doesn't like people saying Ariana sounds like her... And Whitney didn't like people saying she and Mariah sounded somewhat similar. As much as everyone is coming from a good place, it's possible you are all putting her under Ariana's shadow. Next thing Ariana is the one trending, instead of Tyla"
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40. Ms Lollylolly, Feb. 2021
"@Tee Wilson k."
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41. Kheii, Feb. 2021
"
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42. Jktheking Simasiku, Feb. 2021
"You are right"
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43. Keshav Ramsamy, Feb. 2021
"@Tee Wilson i can give you a book on how not to take things so seriously"
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44. Tee Wilson, Feb. 2021
"@Keshav Ramsamy Read the book again on my behalf 😊"
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45. Dudu Dlamini, Feb. 2021
"Bruhh relax it's a compliment Ariana is a legend and Tyla is a legend in the making in South Africa just calm and deal with it loo"
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46. Thabo Ramorakane, Feb.2021
"Everyone has to go under some freshman berating. It really isn't that deep. She should take it as a compliment that people consider her in the same league as the greats. Don't be quick to get touched ❤"
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47. KAYLINE ALSEN, Feb. 2021
"Yes I hate it when people do that"
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48. Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni, Feb. 2021
"@Tee Wilson Thank you. Finally someone gets it. It's like u read my mind. Ariana is great but this is Tyla's time to shine."
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49. Tee Wilson, Feb. 2021
"@Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni unfortunately there are those who think we are being dramatic 😂 we just have to make our own trend."
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"@Thabo Ramorakane We get it. Yes, it is a compliment but if we keep making it about Ariana, then is it even Tyla's song anymore?"
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51. Goodness Mena, Feb. 2021
"Yhhh honestly they did the same thing to Normani always comparing her to beyonce when she's just Normani"
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52. Avatar Korra, Feb. 2021
"Neva she might be good, but she will always be under Ariana’s shadow"
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53. Tee Wilson, Feb. 2021
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54. Melo Khoza, Feb. 2021
"Whats with all the negativity"
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55. Young Sta, March 2021
"But she is called south africas ariana cause she is doing everything similar to ari. From her sound to the cute outfits playing on sex appeal."
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56. Nicole, March 2021
"Exactly. I hate it when people always find ways to compare artist to each other instead of appreciating the artist as an individual."
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57. fi revloe, March 2021
"
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58. Tee Wilson, March 2021
"@fi revloe yes dear"
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59. Kwenza Mfeka, March 2021
"
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60. Jaykaydeigh Olivier, March 2021
"She anyways better than ariana so they should actually call ariana grande Tyla"
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61. Sekemi Okuwobi, March 2021
"Exactly the funny thing is they don’t sound or look alike she’s her own person"
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62. Khaya Tshabalala, March 2021
"Ngiyabonga🔥 , we need to give our artist recognition instead of comparing them to American artists as if the sun revolves around them."
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63. Kealeboga Pretty, March 2021
"
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64. Odala, March 2021
"No 😂😂 Ariana is the American Tyla"
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65. DS HAVOC, March 2021
"Ari is the better one so its a compliment thank u🤙"
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66. Tee Wilson, March 2021
"
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67. sheltonmakhanda, March 2021
"@Thabo Ramorakane not meaning it badly but I don't think people would like be called/under someone's shadow *no hate *"
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68. MenelisidaRapper, April 2021
"U r right, but we r actually praising her beautiful voice"
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69. sharon benson, April 2021
"
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70. Tokologo Mmakola, Feb 2021
"She's no Ariana granade, she's TYLA💯💯🔥"
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71. Amo Sebona, Feb. 2021
"Bro you copied my comment and remixed it 🤦♀"
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72. The Meaning is Always Vague, Feb. 2021
" @Amo Sebona You’re not the only one whose allowed to say
that she’s not ariana grande, she’s Tyla."
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73. Amo Sebona, Feb. 2021
"@The Meaning is
Always Vague i didnt say that tho 😂,
i just saw that it was similar lmao"
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74. Tokologo Mmakola, Feb. 2021
"😂 you are claiming
comments like it's rap line. but while we are at it, i took it and juiced it😁"
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75. Amo Sebona, Feb. 2021
"@Tokologo
Mmakola lol, no hate 😂,
don't take it in the wrong way 🙃"
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76. Tokologo Mmakola, Feb. 2021
"The feeling is mutual ✌💯 i'm just glad that we
acknowledge TYLA as TYLA rather than South African 'Ariana Grande'."
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77. Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni, Feb.2021
"@Tokologo
Mmakola Yes please. She's Tyla not
Ariana. Let's not combine the two."
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78. NOKUBONGA MNTOMBI, Feb. 2021
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79. Enam, Feb. 2021
"Yes I thought this was ariana grande at
first"
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80. Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni, Feb. 2021
"No, she's Tyla. You know what, never
mind. This message will get across."
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81, Enam, Feb. 2021
"@Kukhanyakwezwe Mnguni we know she just look like her"
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82. Lindelwa M, March 2021
"Her name is TYLA❤️🇿🇦"
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83. Mister Stevens, Feb. 2021
"Who's this Ariana Grande so many are
commenting about? I'm here for Tyla
A way better dancer than Ariana Grande"
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84. mpho lethola, Feb. 2021
"Beautiful indeed, private school
Amapiano. U just have to do more u and less Ariana Grande."
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85. Rob Bob, March 2021
"This song has Johannesburg written all over it. Proper jam👌🏽.
Arina Grande what, Ariana Grande who? Na fam she is TYLA👌🏽🇿🇦"
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86. fi revloe, March 2021
"Bruh I'm convinced it's American"
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87. Naledi Tseka :P, March 2021
"@fi revloe read the description babes 😘"
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88. mpho Ndebele, March 2021
"Ariana is Ariana and Tyla is Tayla they
are both beautiful and stop comparing Tyla to Ariana Grande, can't a girl live
in peace with her good music"
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89. Lets Serebotseng, March 2021
"1st time i saw the video was also the 1st time i
heard the song, i was so confused like so, Wow Americans are now stealing our
music, The names Tyla and Kooldrink didnt help me either, lol. its an amazing
song. Video is Top Notch aswell"
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90. Queen Teshy, March 2021
"So the first time I saw this video on Trace I was like
wow, Americans are now making amapiano music....was later on intrigued to
discover that Tyla is actually SouthAfrican..I was so mesmerized !!! I’m a huge
amapiano fan and I love the fact that this song has a different vibe enshrined
in it!! Keep up with the good work SouthAfricaaa..with love from your neighbor
Zambia🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲🇿🇲"
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91. Richview S, March 2021
"She has that Ariana grande sound but her
dance moves and the beat 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥"
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92. Dun, March 2021
"All we are sayiiiiiiiiiiing is she sound like Ariana Grande. We know she is not Ariana, but cant help it and you know it."
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93. Hope Thebe, March 2021
"They can keep Ariana we have Tyla"
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94. DS HAVOC, March 2021
"Being compared to Ari is a blessing
y'all should stop making it a bad thing lmao"
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95. Melissa Changelryen, April 2021
"Haaaiiiibbboooo!!!!! 🎵🎶🎉🎊💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽💃🏽
Ariana can’t dance like this 👌🏽🥳🥳🥳💃🏽💃🏽"
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96. Talucia Govender, April 2021
"I 💖THIS I THINK THAT THIS SONG
IS A BIG HIT IN SOUTH AFRICA FROM TYRESSE SUBRAMONEY I ❤ YOU AFRICAN ARIANA GRANDE I'M SAYING THAT
BECAUSE ANOTHER OF THEM A LOT RECENTLY SAYING THAT YOU ARE THE AFRICAN ARIANA
GRANDE 💓💕💖💞💟💝💘💗💚💛❤💙"
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97. Gershwin Scholtz, May 2021
"The South African version of Ariana. Damn keep up it. Proudly S.A"
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98. Chtchoukin James, May 2021
"afriana grande"
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99. dylannnx, May 2021
"Anyone else think she looks like Ariana
Grande alot?🤔"
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100. Rolivhuwa Muhashela, May 2021
"I almost got an early age stroke for a sec I thought Adriana Grande is riding the Yanos train"
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Here's information about the term "yanos" from https://ianopolot.medium.com/amapiano-south-africas-next-great-export-6f2fb0225692
..."Amapiano (nicknamed ‘The Yanos’) is a
genre of music that gained popularity within townships in Gauteng during the
Mid-2010s. It is electronic in nature with aspects of House and Kwaito (also
native and unique to South Africa). The talented duo MFR Souls are credited
with both creating and christening the sound. It features strong basslines,
piano/keyboard usage (hence Amapiano) particularly in the higher notes, varying
beat combinations presumably birthed from sample machines/synthesizers creating
a genre that can be likened to mathematical equation equaling one thing;
dancing"...
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This concludes Part II of this two part pancocojams series.
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