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Friday, January 22, 2021

Comments About Congolese Singer Koffi Olomide & Tanzanian Singer Diamond Patnumz From The Discussion Thread Of That Fire LA's Reaction Video To The Song "Waah!"



That Fire LA, Dec. 1, 2021

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is 
Part II of a three part pancocojams series on the 2020 hit song "Waah!" by Tanzanian recording artist Diamond Platnumz featuring Democratic Republic of the Congo recording artist Koffi Olomide.

This post showcases That Fire LA's reaction video for the song "Waah!" by Diamond Platnumz featuring Koffi Olomide. That post also includes selected comments from that video's discussion thread about Olomide and comments about Diamond Platnumz.

Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/01/diamond-platnumz-ft-koffi-olomide-waah.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That  post showcases the official YouTube video of the song "Waah!" as well as lyrics and two English translations of that song. WARNING - Some of the lyrics for this song are considered to be sexually explicit in the United States, if not elsewhere.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/01/comments-about-african-custom-of-giving.html  for Part III of this pancocojams series. Part III showcases the offical video of "Waah!" by Diamond Platnumz featuring Koffi Olomide. That post also presents selected comments from the That Fire LA's reaction video's discussion thread for the song "Waah!". Those comments refer to the African custom that is found in that song and some other contemporary African songs of giving "shout outs"  ("dropping names" i.e. saying the names of some family members, some  celebrities, and/or others) in the song itself. 

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Koffi Olomide and Diamond Platnumz for their musical legacies. Thanks to all those who are associated with this video and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. 

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTES
I'm quoting comments from The Fire LA's (TFLA) reaction video for Diamond Platnumz featuring Koffi Olomide's  song "Waah" because that reaction video has the most comments about those singers than I've found in any other YouTube discussion threads about the song "Waah!".

That Fire LA (Big Ralph) is an African American music vlogger. It appears to me that most of the videos that are showcased on his vlog (video blog) are from the African nations of South Africa, Tanzania, and Nigeria in that order. 

Mansa Mayne is another African American man who hosts reaction videos about African music. Most of the music videos that Mansa Mayne showcases are from the nation of South Africa. Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnBAt_IjALk&ab_channel=MansaMayne for a link to his reaction video on the song "Waah!" That reaction video was published on Dec. 2, 2021. 

I've found that YouTube reaction discussion threads about African singers/groups consistently have more informational comments about the recording artists, their showcased songs, and other songs by those artists than the oofficial YouTube videos for those showcased songs. The fact that these comments come from Africans (from the showcased artists' nation and elsewhere) is a big plus.

My guess is that there are far fewer informational comments about the featured artists and explanatory (including lyrics/English translation) comments in the discussion theads of official YouTube music videos because many Africans know who these artists are and may take for granted that other people know who these artists are. Futhermore, I believe that there are far fewere explantory comments - include lyric transcriptions of songs in their original language as well as English translations - because commenters either understand the words in those  showcased songs or are used to hearing and appreciating songs in languages that they don't understand. 

Most people in the United States are far less cosmopolitan than most Africans. However, thanks to YouTube, we are becoming introduced to music from Africa and elsewhere.

The two reaction vloggers that I referred to - That Fire LA and Mansa Mayne-have so many African subscribers share their knowledge on those vlogs' discussion threads because both of those vloggers have demonstrated sincere and enthusiastic interest in African music. This interest and enthusiasm for that music is demonstrated by not only by the fact that they showcase this music, but also by their physical reactions to that music and their requests to their subscribers for information about that music (artists, genre, words, and dances).

Here's a general statement about this from That Fire LA's discussion thread that I'm highlighting in this post:

M P, Dec. 2020
"Africa got it all. There is more for you to discover. Proud to be African 🙏🏿 . God Bless us all. Peace ☮️ ✌🏿. The culture is massive and most people are discovering it now because of social media. We have be blazing with this and all kind of music for years but the west were interested in showing us with flies and all the bad images. Now we are able to tell our own stories with ease."

-end of quote-

Thank you, That Fire LA and Mansa Manye for providing the forum for this cultural sharing and thanks to all those who share cultural information online!    


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SELECTED COMMENTS
This is a compilation of some of the comments about Koffi Olomide and about Diamond Platnumz in this  discussion thread for the song "Waah!": 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QAS0SZD0l5U&ab_channel=ThatFireLA

All of these comments are from Dec. 2, 2020 to January 20, 2021. These comments are given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.

Numbers were added for referencing purposes only.


December 2020

1.Pride Simbiso Zivanai
"Oh dear @thatFireLA Koffi is one of the granddaddy´s of all allthings waist line dances... if one isafricanthey have to know koffi ... because back

 in the day no wedding or celebration or party  would be lit without koffi,,, checkout one of his popular songs loi,"

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2. Fidelia K
"How u nah know bout Koffi Olomide😱he's the legends of all legendz🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥"

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3. Kiera Kavad
"Oh no, this won't do. You definitely need to react to Koffi Olomide's Loi. He is an African legend. He managed to get his music played across Africa in the 00s which was hard to do back then, so you know that his stuff hits"

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4. Eryq Muriithi
"Koffi is a legend in the Lingala/ French music genre, he is one of the biggest Music Icons in Africa and Europe"

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5. Andy Sarquah
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Koffi olimide is a congelese musician born to a congelese mother and nigerian father so he speaks english and has 40 years of career and her mother died a month ago he made a lot of congolese music .He is not a small guy and not a dude because he has freaking money"

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6. prince Mwenyemali
"Koffi Olomide,  He is the first African artist to win 4 Kora awards in one night. So he was the most popular African artist from 1990's to 2000. He's from the Democratic Republic of Congo 🇨🇩."

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7. Lorem Ipsum
"Koffi Olomide has over 40 years making music and has over 35 albums to his name.

He sings Congolese rumba (slow love songs) and does some sebene (hard dance music)

He is the FATHER of African music has mentored many musicians, the biggest of whom is Fally Ipupa.

His greatest hits can't fit on a YouTube comment. Here are a few:

- Loi (1998)

- Effrakata (2001)

- Selfie (2016)

- Papa Ngwasuma (2018)"

He was the first African artist to win 4 Kora Awards, hence is name Quadra Kora Man."

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8. AFROFEST
"Think of Micheal Jackson - In Congo his equivalent is Koffi Olomide. Hit after hit. Check out Effrakata - Best video in Africa in 2000. The song won 4 Kora Awards (African Grammys)"

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9. Cecilia Joseph
"Koffi Olomide is basically the "James Brown" of African Music.. Every African knows him and to collaborate with him a big deal. Proud Tanzanian here.

Also, the ending translation where they are doing the "kid & play dance"  Translates "due to Corona, we don't greet each other with hands but feet and don't forget to wear a mask and wash your hands."

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10. WASH BAY 
"Koffi Olomide aka Le grand Mopao meaning the Big Boss. Has been in the industry over 40 years. Revolutionized Congolese- Lingala Music"

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11. Thobeka's Lifestyle
"I've known koffi since I was 5 never understood anything but his music is fire. He is among Africas great with Yousssou N dour, Ali Farka Toure, Salif Keita etc. Those are the people we grew up not having to understand their language or where they are from to know their music. Super iconic."

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12. Cynthia Kochi
"Koffi is a legend, he only needs to bring out that sexy voice and it's a hit 🔥🔥❤❤"

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13. Iam John
"Koffi Olomide is a Maestro of African/Congolese Rhumba/Lingala music. He is a legend, managed to entertain 3 consecutive generations. Some of his albums such as Haut de Gamme: Koweït, Rive Gauche is listed in 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die.  He is an African Mozart."

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14. Faith & I
"Here’s some Koffi suggestions:  Loi (older but legendary); Papa Mobimba ; Danse ya ba Congolais; Selfie 🇨🇩🇨🇩🇨🇩"

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15. armychick74
"Thank you Big Ralph, Koffi Olomide is the Grand Mopao, the King of African music. At 64 years he can still sing and dance. His style too is impeccable! Koffi Olomide's biggest hit was Loi. Check it out here: https://youtu.be/-6uZvexXxEM"

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16. sweet Divine
"Really Koffi is a legend there there is no  African music without  him.. he is another level he can just talk and you will find yourself dancing.... I mean j am surprised  you don know him he from.Congo Kinshasa ..  he is been in the business since the 90.... he said Didi stone she is koffi daughter. And she is a model very beautiful  lady.."
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"He said Didi Stone" refers to how Koffi Olomide said the name Didi Stone in the record "Waah!".

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17. Mr. Steve
"Bruh Koffi Olomide is an African legend. He is the Micheal Jackson of Africa. In terms of Iconic status, hit records, years in the game, unique fashion styles, trade mark voice etc"

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18. Mr. Steve
"There is an awesome & authentically  African genre of music that you are yet to discover i.e Rhumba & Lingala.    From Koffi Olomide, Fally Ipupa, Late Papa Wemba, Madilu System, Franco, Zaiko Langa Langa just to name a few. All of them bigger & Legendary than any of the African Artists you've been reacting to"

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19. Aden Warsame
"Antoine Christophe Agbepa Mumba (13 July 1956)known professionally as Koffi Olomidé, is a Congolese Soukus singer, dancer, producer, and composer. He has had several gold records in his career. He is the founder of the Quartier Latin International orchestra with many notable artists, including Fally Ipupa & Ferre Gora."

Diamond Platnumz is a Tanzanian Firebrand musician and he usually sings in Swahili( a prominent language in East Africa) this Song Waah!! It's a remix of Koffi's original Hit song  Papaa mobimba released in late 2018,basically diamond is praising her* girlfriend that she's beautiful and romantic despite the criticism from haters."
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* The grammatically correct form is "his". 

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20. nduta kenya
"If you dont know who Koffi is, we cant even begin to discuss African music. Almost every African grew up listening to him. There was also  Awilo, papa wemba, kanda bongoman from the 🇨🇩..............etc

This is a remake of Koffi's old song and the dance move are pure Congolese."

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21. ALBERT KAMUGISHA
"Koffi is from former Zaire (Drc-democractic Republic of Congo) known in Africa for lingara music en crazy dance styles were pple twist deir waists like no more o boneless bodies"

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22. Mallo Fredrick
"It's the other way round bro, the homie got Diamond dancing, and not Diamond got the homie dancing"

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23. follo cza Laolang
"Koffi Olomide is on the level of Oliver Mtukuzi, Salif keita hugh masekela those are the Legends"

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24. Phil R
"Koffi is a Congolese musician or I should say African ndombolo/rumba artist going back decades. If you are African and aged 30 and below, there is a chance you were conceived while koffi playing in the background. Koffi is huge in the continent!"

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25. Moira Majaha
"Koffi unites all age groups in Africa. You play a song by him, everyone will be up dancing. Grandmother. Aunties. And dem babies. Legend."

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26. Ngombella S
"Koffi Olomide is the biggest singer from Congo. Multiple hits and awards under his belt. He basically put Congo on the continental map”.

He’s from the french speaking Africa that’s why u probably never heard of him. Got some of the best ballads and a few congolese stars were members of his group from the 90s “Quatier Latin.

You can check his most known titles “Loi”, “wake up” “ultimatum” “si si” “Effrakata” “selfie” etc. He’s a genius.

He was criticized in the past for only having light skin female dancers but he has evolved on this."

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27. MissFlo
"KOFFI OLOMIDE 64 yr old Soukous Music Legend from Democratic Republic of Congo DRC AKA Zaire AKA Congo. He Holds a Bachelors degree in Economics and a Masters' Degree in Mathematics, that explains why is regarded as one of the highly self managed musicians and has succeeded in music. Very organized."

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28. Partrendah Muchafa
"Growing up even now there's no party or wedding if they don't play a Koffi Olomide song..... dude is an African legend"

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29. Marie Griffin
"You pronounce his name like COFFEE you drink  but it’s pronounce like K(OH)oh=😮… the FFEE part you got it!"

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30. Francisca Sivume Mpike
"It is pronounced OLO-ME-DAY"

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31. Devine Godess
"Name is Kofi not “coffee “ and last name is pronounced Olo-mee-dé. He’ s the king of Congolese rhumba...in fact this song is 100% in his style rather than Diamond’s."

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32. Ola Sumbo
"He is a living legend of African music from Congo DRC. He is the king of Afro Dance music videos from the early 98, 99 and 2000''s.  He sold out shows all over africa and europe.  He sings in his native congolese dialect and french.  Guess  what -- Most Africans just sing along when growing up even though we don't understand meaning of the lyrics.. lol.. I'm Nigerian but congolese dance  all/along music  (called Soukous )ruled African party scene and shows back then just like how the Nigerian artist are running the party scene now.  Another popular artist is Awilo Longomba. Both of them are legends. We respect and  love these legends all over the continent."

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33. Leticia
"This music genre it's a typical Congolese seben music (a lot of it, you can also hear in Congolese gospel music). The rhythm is upbeat, but not as fast as the music styles ndombolo or soukous. Seben music is between Congolese music rumba(slow tempo) and soukous, ndombolo (fast tempo). What you hear here is a trademark from the artist Koffi Olomide, known as the thatcho style which  he invented back in the days (90's)."

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34. Karim Zolani
"I am South AFRICAN AND i KNOW kOFFI bro and i am not even 25yrs...he is bigger than diamond bro"

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35. Silas Agustino
"DIAMOND BRO IS FIRE THAN KOFFI@ZOLANI

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36. Sean Mza
"Kofi is a legend 30 years in the game ..Diamond been in the game 10 years killing it he a legend in the making"

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37. Tendai Fushai
"@Silas Agustino koffi is bigger than diamond....  noone talked about him being 🔥."

Anyways if you grew up in the 90s you would know that koffi dominated Africa without youtube, itunes etc. Basically wit no internet, guy blew over.... anyways some things can only be understood by the older ones"

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38. joslyn Katuala ghifem
"@Silas Agustino  its not all musician who has this longevity ; koffi is the best of all time"

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39. Patricia Tshiendele
"@Silas Agustino nobody is compare to Koffi I mean nobody 🇨🇩❤️"
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"CD" is an abbreviation for the Democratic Republic of the Congo.

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40. Kristyne Karay
"Tell this one ohhhh"

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41. Damaris Ambia
"I thought he was only popular in East and Central Africa. This is good to know."

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42. Africa my beloved
"@Damaris Ambia We grow up listening to Koffie olomide in South africa long way before afro beat took over."

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43. Edward Oyier
"You can't compare a father and a son. It's taboo. Diamond is only 31years old. The legend Koffi Olomide is 64 years old. Koffi is a maestro. A forerunner"

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44. kevin olome
"you can not compare koffi and diamond, at the moment diamond is doing big things and koffi did things during his time, compare diamond with davido or burna boy

compare koffi with awilo logomba ,"

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45. Anointed Passionate
"If you want to prove that koffi is bigger than diamon check how many subscribers Diamond has. And how many views the video has got in a week,it means the name of Koffi is the one tht drew people from allover"

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46. Zandie Zawula
"We know thete is like and views nowadays but still diamond is not on the game long that koffie. Almost all the provinces in SA we know him but diamond we dont. Work.experience is counting tooo he is good I like him but it's like Comparing Whitney and Cardi B"

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47. Shamiso Makuvaro
"@Tendai Fushai Well said Koffie can entertain me a 50 yr old and Diamond entertain your generation so there is no need to compare lets appreciate them both fans can be something.."

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48. Heather Schaper
"Used to bigger than Diamond during his time you mean"

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49. rhoda waweru
"@Silas Agustino diamond want to be koffi when he grow up"
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Several commenters wrote that Diamond Platnumz said this.

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50. Fit Emmanuel
"Diamond Platnumz is taking Africa music to another level 🔥 making the whole Africa proud 🦁"

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51. Certified
"All he does is remix and uses Congolese sound"

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52. cnassoro
"@Certified ALL he does?! Either you're a hater or you know nothing about Diamond! Diamond is one of the few artists who have proved to be able to do any kind of music... from Rap, dancehall, Bongoflavor, Naija, Congolese, or any! He has done even local Tanzanian music styles like Taarabu and Singeli! Sp, you sound too dumb to say "all he does is to use Congolese sound"!"

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53. Vansah Swift
"@Certified Dude Diamond is the African GOAT not eveb Burna boy is closer to his lever,, the First African to hit billion views on youtube  1st African to hit 1m views in less than 8hrs 1st African to hit 2m views in less than 13 hours ,so wtf are you talking about. FYI I'm not A Tanzanian imma Kenyan 🇰🇪"
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This comment was written in bold font in that discussion thread.

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January 2021

54. Pan African Lifestyle
"Koffi is a legend. A godfather when it comes to Congolese music and popular African music as we know it today. He is known to be very flamboyant and eclectic in his style. You can see Koffi’s influence on music as it is reflected in Diamond’s fashion and dancing as well. Koffi loves ambiance and is generally a “bon vivant”.


HE IS A LEGEND. ONE OF THE GREATS IN RHUMBA AND SOUKOUS MUSIC IN CENTRAL-SOUTHERN AFRICA.

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55. MOE LivingLover
"the name koffi means  FRIDAY"

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56. Ndelela Kaje
"Koffi "Le grand Mopao" is the greatest icon of Congolese music (and probably in Africa) alive."

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57. Salome gatsheni
"Koffi is a legend till today in Zimbabwe every wedding play one of his songs. Bridal teams always use one of his songs"

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