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Showing posts with label South African slang. Show all posts
Showing posts with label South African slang. Show all posts

Monday, September 7, 2020

"Nobody Wanna See Us Together" (South African struggle song associated with the 2015/206 Fees Must Fall movement)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest Update: Nov. 14, 2022

This pancocojams post showcases three YouTube video of the 
South African song "Nobody Wanna See Us Together", a struggle song that is associated with South Africa's university students 2015 and 2016 "Fees Must Fall" movement. 

Some of this song's lyrics and other comments from these YouTube videos are also included in this post.

This post also includes some definitions of South African slang terms and other sayings that are included in some of these comments.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2020/09/south-africas-fees-must-fall-student.html
for a pancocojams post that presents information about South Africa's Fees Must Fall protest movement and information about struggle songs in the Fees Must Fall movement.

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The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks also to all those who were involved in the Fees Must Fall movement and thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and to thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEOS & COMMENTS

Video #1: Nobody wanna see us together



Mbulelo Ngqobe, January 22, 2015
-snip-
Selected comments with numbers added for referencing purposes only:

1. Chulumanco Macingwane, 2016
"this is one of the SICKEST I've ever heard"
-snip-
"Sickest" here is an African American Vernacular English term meaning "the best".

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2. 
tiisetso kekana, 2017

"Eish! (pron. /aysh/ but also, less often, as /ish/) – A term of resignation; Used to express everything ranging from frustration to surprise to disapproval, but also just everyday acknowledgment of things you can’t change like “Eish, the traffic is bad today”. Heard frequently each and every day! Also used to indicate displeasure, for example: “Eish, what’s going on here?”"


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3. 
Zamabhida, 2018
"on a serious note.. who's this guy mara"
"Mara (pron. \mah-rah\) – but (eg. ‘mara why?’ – ‘but why?) [from the Afrikaans word ‘maar’ meaning ‘but’]"

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REPLY
4. T T Digoamaje, 2018
"Abednego Mosiatlhaga"

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5. Snehlanhla Makua, 2018
"nobody wanna see us together that is the truth"

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6. Lora beatx, 2018
"Wow ☺😊inspiring"

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7. Amogelang Leshabane, 2 018
"this actually reminded me of high school sports trips πŸ˜₯❤"

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8. 
gabriel banda, 2018
"the guy leading the group iz just amazing and this is really good for team bond"

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9. Jamaul Joseph, 2018
"This is absolutely Amazing!!!! Just a casual, on the fly jam session.....but soooo good!"

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10. Angelo Martins> 2019
"
Thanks for the SA women's soccer team for introducing me to the world of "igwijo"."
-snip-
"Nobody Wanna See Us Together" is a Fees Must Fall struggle song. Some struggle songs are sung as gwijos.
-snip-
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2020/09/online-information-about-south-african.html for a pancocojams post on gwijos ("amagwijos"; "igwijos")
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11. Lesego Ranyabu Ledwaba, 2020
"Then it's 2020 I am back again.. His voice brought me backπŸ˜‚ πŸ’₯πŸ’₯😍🀩 Everytime when I am down I come here" **
12. wandile Brian, 2020
"Just search "Stellenbosch Singing" you get more videos of him singing"
-snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellenbosch_University
"Stellenbosch University is a public research university situated in Stellenbosch, a town in the Western Cape province of South Africa. Stellenbosch is the oldest university in South Africa"...
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13. Mbasa Dyantyi, 2020
"The guy leading the song play for Ajax CPT now I think. I recognise his face"
-snip-
"Ajax Cape Town" is a South African professional football  [soccer] club. 

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Video #2: FMF 2016 Nobody wanna see us together - Yamkela Gola ft Wits Students



Paulos Lekala Marutha, Oct 14, 2016

-snip-
Selected comments with numbers added for referencing purposes only:

1. Mzokhona Nkala, 2017

"what I love about South Africans even if they are under oppression they always sing and dance. this song is the best struggle song so far"

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2. BONKE XAKATHA, 2017
"
Wow the Talent and the Creativity at its best while protesting..wow"

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3. jnrndlovu15, 2017
"amazing collab yamkela Gola & wits students.
list of songs in order:

1) Akon - dont matter (nobody wanna see us together

2) Rebecca malope - my mother

3) Mafikizolo - masthokoze

4) Chris Brown - don't judge me

5) Bob Marley - buffalo soldier

#FeesMustFall
 -snip-
This comment lists the titles of the records whose lyrics are excerpted to make the song "Nobody Wanna See Us Together".

Notice the international sources for these songs. Akon is a Senegalese American singer. Rebecca Malope and Mafikizolo are South African singers, Chris Brown is an African American singer, and Bob Marley is a Jamaican singer.

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4. Kagiso Sekgothudi, 2017
"
Is the portion at 1:00 a popular song?"

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5. REPLY
DIDINTLE SECHOGELA, 2017
"
yes i think its a song by mafikizolo"

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REPLY
6. Yolanda Radebe, 2017
"
Kagiso Sekgothudi mas'thokoze is the name of the song I think"

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7. 
Mzo Mnikathi, 2017
"he was a buffalo soldier  dread lock rasta stolen from Africa brought to america"

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REPLY
8. Mamla Tomson, 2019
"That is my favourite part 😍😭😭"

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9. Sphume TheBlaqMirror, 2017
"Babaningi babaningi abantu
!!!  aaah man love being South African!"

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REPLY
10. Tshepo Sepadile, 2020
"
Babaningi abantu, babaningi abantu
Bengidlel' umona
Beth' uzongishiya
Wena' uzongilahla..."
-snip-
Google translate from Zulu to English"
“There are many people, there are many people
I was jealous
Beth will leave me
You 'will forsake me”

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11. makumbi k2, 2017
"
we (students )of this country will achieve free education in our life time"

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12. Xolani Themba, 2017
"
hahahaha I that part "no please don't judge me etc and he was a Buffalo soldier born from africa ayayababa ayayababa"

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13. lytidoro, 2017
"One of the sickest Song of Fees must fall , So far"

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14. Nqobile Hadebe, 2017
"I'm watching this because i got an assignment that needs a touch on Fees Must Fall and damn the front guy completely made me lose my focus... the assignment will have to wait! cant stop myself from watching this!!! :) :D"

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15. dzeep ndlovu, 2017
"One will day we will inherit this continent, the struggle must stay strong....aluta..we still slaves, we just transformed to modern day slaves."
-snip-
From http://africaaccessreview.org/2017/04/38715/#:~:text=Aluta%2C%20a%20word%20used%20by,later%20against%20harsh%20African%20regimes.

"Aluta, a word used by many Africans to mean “struggle for freedom and liberation” comes from the Portugeuse phase, “A luta continua, Vitoria e certa”- the struggle continues, victory is certain. The word was commonly chanted during protests against colonial oppressors and later against harsh African regimes. College students throughout Africa shouted Aluta! during peaceful demonstrations and movements of mass resistance."...

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16. 
Mpumalanga Zwane, 2017
""Let me tell you about the story of my life" with  this video, I watched it many times and keep coming back"

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17. Vanesa Khorombi, 2017
"I think i have a crush on this guy...Lord mercy upon me...#crushing"

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18. CHUSTA, 2017
"who watched this more than once n started to sign along ??"

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REPLY
19. Sue Ndlovu, 2018
"i love this song i made sure i know the lyrics"

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REPLY
20. Motlhalefi Christopher Ramotsebe, 2018
"looool, im still working on that"

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21, savage Rossy, 2018
"
this guy can sing yoooh bathong❤❤❤πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯"
-snip-
I think that "yoh" ("iyoh") is a South African exclamation of surprise and/or an exclamation of appreciation and approval that is similar to the English word "wow".


Google translate from Zulu to English: "bathong"="people"

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22. Keorapetse Radibe, 2018
"
Oh nkosi yam! This song just evokes emotions that I can't even describe. Aluta! What started in 2015 by the name of # FMF was not in vain. We will arrive at the promised land, maybe not today, not Tomorrow but ultimately we will...I am proud to be a Wits student but I am even prouder of being part of the youth-we were called for such a time as this. As for you Yamkela-ae suka mahn comrade Zahara, u are doing the things!  Ayabayabayabayabayabaya"
-snip-
From 
https://www.indifferentlanguages.com/translate/zulu-english/oh_nkosi_yami
"oh nkosi yam= oh my goodness" (oh my Lord)

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23. Tshepo Mashabela, 2018
"We are the fees must Fall GenerationπŸ™Œ"

obed mabuse, 2018
"
You gotta love SA❤✊😒
ISH Africa unite#Mzabalazo#"
-snip-
Google translate from Zulu to English: Mzabalazo= The struggle

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24. Buhle Bongo, 2017
"I use to say these kids if they dnt want to study they must go home but after watching this video I couldn't hold the tears in my eyes the pain of swing South African kids fighting for their rights.

Fight until you get what you want......these fat cats are wasting money with useless things some of graduates are jobless and the interest of their Nsfas loan is growing every year.when they get job they will be working for Nsfas...............I know the feeling that you are going through.....keep on fighting we are behind u zintsana zasemakhaya"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: “zintsana zasemakhaya” = “domestic babies”
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Here’s information about NSFAS from https://www.gov.za/services/tertiary-education/apply-financial-assistance-national-student-financial-aid-scheme-nsfas
“Are you in need of financial assistance to study at a tertiary institution? Apply for a National Student Financial Aid Scheme (NSFAS) bursary.

NSFAS is a bursary scheme funded by the Department of Higher Education and Training for those who do not have the financial means to fund their studies and cannot access bank funding, study loans or bursaries.”…

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25. Lindelwa Mpilwenhle Dlamini, 2017
"Fees will fall, my heart will fall for this brother even. Mayibuye!"
-snip-
From https://dsae.co.za/entry/mayibuye/e04629
Mayibuye- A rallying-cry of the African National Congress (see ANC noun1), especially in the phrases Mayibuye Afrika, Mayibuye iAfrika or Afrika Mayibuye, ‘Come back Africa’, ‘Africa, may it return’. See also Operation Mayibuye. Cf. Afrika interjection.
1949 E. Hellmann Handbk on Race Rel. 491It was this paper..that was largely responsible for popularizing the stirring slogan, Mayibuy’iAfrika (Let Africa Come Back).

1990 Pace May 4As the whole world cheers, black, white and yellow say in unison, ‘Mayibuye I Africa’."...

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26. 
benedict mbadu, 2017
"You killed guys the struggle continue."
-snip-
"Killed [it]"= African American Vernacular English term meaning "You did an excellent job".

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27. ncega mncedić bayana, 2017
-snip-
Google translate from Zulu to English: "Siyabonga icreativity" = Thanks to creativity
-snip-
"bayana" may be the same as the Zulu word "bafana" meaning "boys".

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28. Vuyisanani Mafuya, 2017
"africa must unite in other to reach free education"

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REPLY 
29. Kamal Clifton, 2019
"I agree. Not just free education but to command and dictate. This place has all the world's wealth and Africans are sitting by and watching the barrels rollout in front of them."

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30. Wild Life, 2017
"
BIGGEST STUDENT MOVEMENT AFTER APARTHEID"

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31. Wandile Nzuza, 2017
"
somebody get this guy a record label"

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32. 
Modiehi Mahase, 2017
"As our VC in police custody said, "Songs liberated South Africa". We will remain united!"
-snip-
"Our VC [vice chancellor] here refers to  s
tudent activist Mcebo Dlamini who declared himself the new ‘vice-chancellor’ of Wits University when the actual vice chancellor postponed a planned University general assembly. Read this article   
"This guy's voice!!!!πŸ˜„πŸ˜„"

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34. The Nutritionist, 2017
"This is Beautiful :-)"

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35. nqobile malunga, 2017
"
He sings while smiling 😍😍😍"

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36. Selloane Molutsi, 2017
"The lead singer though,I think I'm in love with him...😍😍😍😘😘😘"

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REPLY
 
37. Yo2dalanda, 2017
"
i know xctly how u feel..."

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38. Mayenziwe Zondi, 2017
"he sings it so beautifully. . . 😒😒😒"

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39. 
Amanda Ntibane, 2017
"The guy in the white t-shirt at 00:58 πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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REPLY
40. Maisha Molepo, 2018
"
hahahaahahhahahahaahaahaahhaha"

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REPLY
41. Lebohang Monkhe, 2019
"
Lol yey he's feeling just as much as we are if not moreπŸ˜‚πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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42. Luyanda Gumede, 2018
"
l so love my school..  everything is so real and music makes everything seem possible"

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43. oolz deMaestro,  2018
"
Wishing this Guy all the Best in life.After He was screwed By Wits after the original FMF protest.
Yamkela YOu Will rise Bafana.
The revolution comes at a Grate cost"
-snip-
Google translate from Zulu to English: Bafana= boys
“Grate” typo or misspelling for the English word “great”

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44. 
King Made Official, 2018
"Growing up and seeing Sarafina in Ghana ,i was convinced all South Africans can sing, Can all south Africans sing?? Any S.A ppl here"

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REPLY 
45. Palesa Orlyn, 2020
"Most people can sing

As a nation we sing when we sad, we sing when we happy and even when we bored or chilling. It's in our blood"

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REPLY
46. maSamu, 2020
"πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚I'm horrible at singing so that would be a No."

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47. vuyokazi sodinga, 2020
"Im from South Africa 🀣🀣🀣 I think anyone can sing but its a matter of singing well❤❤"

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48. Laura Vermeulen, 2018
"love this song it touches my heart"

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49. Miey Tetelo, 2018
"His voice always brightens my day. #Yamkela Gola"

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50. Bongani Mahlangu, 2018
"
bathong  this guy"

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51. Mamsy Zondo, 2018
"
he killed it"

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52. Zoliseka Maliti, 2018
"This guy lawd😍"

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53. Sneh Dube, 2019
"
Let me tell u about the story of my life... My mother... My father... That's why I'm a communist.
Babaningi abaningi bethi uyajola, bethi uzongishiya, bethi uzongishiya.
So plz don't judge me
Plz don't judge me
Plz don't judge me
Baby don't judge me.
He was a buffalo soldier
Dreadlock Rasta
Stolen from Africa
Bought to America
Oh yabayaba yabayaba yabayaba yabayava"

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 54. Khulu Minenhle, 2019
"
Is the lead singer still at Wits ...I need to see him..Before the end of this year..πŸ˜„πŸ˜†πŸ˜„πŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’•MaratoπŸ‘"
 -snip-
"Wits" = The University Of 
Witwatersrand (known as "Wits") in Johannesburg, South Africa

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REPLY
55. Paulos Lekala Marutha
"Yeah he's still at Wits"

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56. Colino Deani, 2019
"
Every Black Child across the world should be taught this song so no matter where we meet we can break into this song in Brother and sisterhood no matter what country we come from....

WELL DONE FAMILY! Peace & love from NYC =)"

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57. 
Johannes Tau, 2019
"Guys these students are on πŸ”₯. Yooh much love 😍"

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58. Tanaysha Pleasant, 2019
"I LOVE my people!!!!  So much meaning behind y'all singing.  Much Love from Virginia ✊🏿"

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59. Themba Zondo, 2019
"
Reminds me of my days as a SASCO Secretary at the Vaal University of Technology. Eish"

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60. KiNG VLogs, 2020
"
the energy they have, i wish them well! i hope they are all employed by now..."

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61. Tonsh Benosh, 2020
"
Greetings from Colombia πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ fellow fighters,the struggle continue s"

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REPLY
62. Oab, 2020
"
Respect"

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63. KatLee Zulu, 2020
"
My happy place πŸ˜‡πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦ they can sing shameπŸ’‹"

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64. mawethu mapulane, 2020
"The #lockdownSA brought me here. Morena boloka setΕ‘haba sa geΕ‘u.  26 March-16 April 2020πŸ˜­πŸ’” #covid19"
-snip-
Google translate from Zulu to English: “Morena boloka setΕ‘haba sa geΕ‘u” =  Lord, save our people
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65. Muhammad Ravat, 2020
"WE ARE ONE WE ARE DIVERSE WE ARE UNITED WE ARE SOUTH AFRICA
VIVA
I LOVE OUR SOUTH AFRICAπŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦"

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66. 
Pinknashe, 2020

"2020 and i'm still here....this guy is gold shame..."
-snip-
From https://www.stcommunications.com/travellers-guide-south-african-slang/
"Ag shame: Shame is a South Africanism for pity or sympathy, but it can also be used to indicate cuteness. E.g., Ag shame, did you hurt yourself? And, Ag shame, he got his exam results today and they weren’t good. And, Ag shame, did you see that fluffy puppy?"
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From https://banananewsline.wordpress.com/about/a-handy-guide-to-speaking-south-african/
"Shame/Ag Shame (pron. \Agg\ \Shame\) –how cute (“Is that your baby? Ag shame”); an expression of empathy, much like “I’m so sorry for you” (Marie: “My dog died.” Suzie: “Ag shame.”) – ‘ag’ is not necessary, it only adds emphasis"

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67. vuyokazi sodinga, 2020
"This song tho❤❤❤ I remember singing with friends and random ppl on the road.


MUCH LOVE FOR MZANSI❤❤❤"

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68. 
Colino Deani, 2020

"They Still dont wanna see us together in 2020 lol
Love From NYC,USA to Africa & Back again 

#TheyDontWannaSeeUsTogether"

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69. Thobile Macaws,  2020
"
They don’t wanna see us together - yet when we sing and dance they are confounded... yes the spirits of our ancestors are alive and moving with so much might and speed ✊🏾✊🏾!!"

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70. Kwena Mokgokong, 2020
"2020 #covid19 still relevant ♥️"

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71. Hope Faith, 2020
"This reminds me of high school😒😒😒 it was our favourite track during PET  and on our way back from every  trip...  Yoooh mega love xerm❤❤"

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72. 
Buhle Mkhize, 2020

"If we stand together, we can do so much more✊πŸΎπŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦"

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73. 
Sive Gwaza, 2021
"I
 will forever be grateful to the leaders and the masses of #FeesMustFall , cz at that time I had already  lost hope of being a graduate πŸŽ“ πŸ™ 😒,. I was owing the institution 30k and I knew that I will never have that money. Then boom #FMF, they wrote off my debt.  Today I'm a graduate πŸŽ“ 😌 πŸ™Œ. I thank you  my people πŸ™"

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UPDATE: Video #3: 
Nobody wanna see us together - Mxolisi Sopiseka




Paulos Lekala Marutha, Dec 2, 2016

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Sunday, November 10, 2019

South African 2005 Kwaito Song "Sweety My Baby" By Brickz

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a video of the 2005 South African Kwaito hit song "Sweety My Baby" by Brickzz.

Selected comments from that video's discussion thread are included in this post.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Brickz for recording this song and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Sweety My Baby – Brickzz



Taf1, Oct 19, 2006

Biggest kwaito tune this year!!!

[...]

Song: Sweety Ma Baby
Artist: Brickz | RR
Album: Face Brick
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Statistics as of November 9, 2019 at 6:32 PM
Total # of views -475,331
Total likes - 1.5K
Total dislikes - 53
Total comments- 200
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Hete's some information about Brickz from https://africanmusicdance.fandom.com/wiki/Brickz
"Brickz (born Sipho Ndlovu) is a popular South African Kwaito artist born in Zola, South Africa, who was discovered by the ever popular producer DJ Cleo"....
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
These comments are presented according to their year that they were published, except for their replies. Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

2006
1. zimguza
"I love this video!!!makes me miss home....too many memories!!!"

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2007

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2008
2. semt9
"This sond is DOPPPPPEEEEEE
Channel O baybehh!!"

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3. DawnChilde Vocations
"brings back memories of parties back home"

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4. soulchildboy
"baby,baby,baby,babay... eish !!"

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5. nzala1985
"Wow I haven't heard this jame in a long time.I am from Zambia but this is among da hotest track in Africa.Kwaito Rocks man!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
-snip-
"jame" = jam (record/song)

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6. sarudzai14
"this is sme good stuff though im from zim i appreciate s.african music,its really good..jus makes me miss home"
-snip-
"zim" = Zimbabwe

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2009
7. Ettienne van der Merwe
"Ahhhh the sweet sounds of home!!"

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8. noriri20
"19 days and I'm home!
Oh how I've missed you Mzansi
Xx"
-snip-
"Mzansi" = South Africa

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2010
9. savanamu
"Sweety my babee love this song tuuuunee!!!!"

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10. zeenasha1
"Malawi stand up...i rep AFRICA mutha land..gotta luv it :)"

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2011
11. Lulu Ali
"Dis song is kooooool
sweet ma bbe
u 'll alwez b ma bbe!!"

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12. Kitso Sello
"eish this a good song!!"
-snip-
https://www.lexico.com/en/definition/eish "eish: exclamation, INFORMAL•SOUTH AFRICAN; used to express a range of emotions, such as surprise, annoyance, or resignation

[...]

Origin
1990s origin uncertain. The term originated in the townships and is probably imitative of a non-verbal utterance.

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13. blackmamba5000
"come on people! this song is tight! big up to brickzaaaaaa!!!"

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14. lebogang6
"2007/8 New Year's in a club in Edinburgh, UK ... never danced so hard!!!"

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15. charlababy
"us zim peeps are mad crazzie ova s.a music its great. love this tune, but got no idea wat the song is sayin except for sweety my baby yu will always be my baby lol zim peeps be ridin to this tune up in da club"

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2012
16. Gralia Kaja
"Reminds of those days back in SA"

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17. Naisola Letoya
"Its 2012 and i still love this song!!"

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18. KaeL M
"man.. I miss the days in Southern Africa, I lived in Mozambique and every weekend I was on my way to SA...I miss Chanel O!!!! AAAAAAH.. fond memories!! my overshopping in Nelspruit and what not! I also miss Swaziland!! sniff sniff.. AFRICAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA... Man, there's no place like Africa! now why am I stuck on this iceberg called Canada!?"

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2013
19. Neesa Lawl
"Still loving this... brings back memories of parties in high school. Also, lol at the channel O logo!"

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20. jeanna Jack
"eish Sweety My Baby this song!!!"

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2014

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2015
21. Orapeleng Tawana
"you will always be ma bbe."

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22. Guilherme Fumagalli
"Very Nice. Is from?
(i'm Brazilian, i don't know nothing in english)"

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REPLY
23. lindokuhle ndlovu, 2016
"welcome to SA tunes, SA world where love is excessive"

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REPLY
24. Vusumuzi Mathumo-Githendu, 2017
"and AIDS"

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REPLY
25. charlene maduramuthu, 2019
"Guilherme Fumagalli this is a South African song the language he sings in is called Zulu"

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26. inmyJimmychoo choos
"Don't understand what he's saying but I like it.Such a throw back"

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27. Jacob Bontlha
"clasik tune maan brings back some naughty memories"

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28. Kay Modikai
"Classic Kwaito rit here"

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2016
29. Lindokuhle Mavuso
"A big throwback, 2005, when I was in grade 7."

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REPLY
30. Omphulusa Tshivhase, 2018
"Lindokuhle Mavuso lol i was in grade 6 we even play it in 2006"

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31. Jada Rose
"heya this reminds of Mzilikazi gardens in Bulawayo city of sunshine and culture"
-snip-
Bulawayo is a city Zimbabwe, South Africa.

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2017
32. Tammie Ndleleni
"2017 and it still rocks"

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34. decio elias mafuieca
"oh sweet my baby in Maputo Mozambique, what a hit.."

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35. Vuyo Nkosi
"This song it's the best of kwaito"

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36. Carlos Kayko felgueiras82
"old school jam"

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37. fecorns
"brickzz, this is one of the best kwaito tracks in a long time, Cleo did a good job"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DJ_Cleo
"Tlou Cleopas Monyepao (born 24 December 1979) professionally known as DJ Cleo, is a South African award-winning Kwaito and House producer from Gauteng and the founder of Will Of Steel Productions.[1]"...

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2018
38. David Panama
"Timeless classic"

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2019
39. Joseph mut
"This song welcomed me in sa when I went to study at UJ"
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"sa" = South Africa
"UJ" = University of Johannesburg

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40. Joe-Fox Wurld
"Still rocking it 2018"

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41. Michael Machel
"Im 30 now, used to hear my bro play this when i was 17 back when channel O took over africa"

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42. Siya Dube
"An all time legend"

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Thursday, August 2, 2018

Comments About The South African Meanings Of The Word "Wololo"

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post documents comments from YouTube discussion threads and other internet sites about the South African meanings/s (i.e. not the Age of Empires game meaning) of the word "wololo".

The content of this post is presented for linguistic and cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Note that this post documents comments about the South African meanings of the word "wololo" and not the meaning of the 2016 mega hit South African dance song "Wololo" by Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha although the composers of that song popularized (and may have coined) most or all of the particular meanings or the word "wololo" which are included in this post.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/08/babes-wodumo-ft-mampintsha-wololo-and.html for a pancocojams post about the song Wololo and its official video. A vlog of the UK based The Ubunifu Space's reaction to that "Wololo" video is also featured in that post.

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THE AGE OF EMPIRE MEANING OF THE WORD "WOLOLO"
Note: I've chosen to begin this post with this information because the word "wololo" is so closely associated with the highly regarded Age Of Empire games. However, the Age Of Empire meaning of "wololo" has nothing to do with the South African meanings of this word.

First, here's information about Age Of Empire:
From http://ageofempires.wikia.com/wiki/Age_of_Empires
"Age of Empires is the original history based real-time strategy computer game set in antiquity. The game was developed by Ensemble Studios and published by Microsoft. It was first released in North America on 15 October 1997.

Age of Empires was later updated with the The Rise of Rome expansion pack. This added several new units and civilizations as well as additional features that enhance gameplay efficiency and aesthetics.

A remastered version was announced on 12 June 2017, and released on 20 February 2018."...

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Here's information about the word "wololo" in the context of the Age of Empires games:
From https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/wololo
"About
"Wololo" is the battle cry of the Priest unit featured in the 1997 historical real-time strategy game Age of Empires. Due to its association with the Priest's mystical ability to assume control of an opponent's unit through conversion, the sound effect has gained notoriety among the fans as one of the most dreaded stock lines from the game. Online, the phonetic transcription of the chant is used as a taunt and an interrupter, which in turn prompts visual responses that indicate a switch of color between red and blue.

Origin
In Age of Empires, the first installment in the strategy game series produced by Ensemble Studios and released in 1997 by Microsoft, the Priest is a civilian unit with special abilities to heal friendly units and convert enemy units. While casting the spell of "conversion," the Priest utters a distinct battle cry ("wololo"), which soon became associated with bad omen among the fans of the game. Upon completion, the color of the targeted unit's attire changes from red to blue (or blue to red).

Spread
On June 7th, 2005, YTMND user oftoronto created a page titled "You are being converted" (shown below, left) which gained over 8.600 views and a 3.73 out of 5 star rating in ten years.[2] On September 16th, 2006, YTMND user Jokerkaaos created a page titled "Wololo!" (shown below, right) which gained over 35.000 views and a 3.85 out of 5 stars in eight years.[3]”...
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Then again, I don't know how the creators of the Age of Empires games came up with the word "wololo". It's possible that they lifted the word "wololo" from an African language -South African or otherwise- and gave it a new meaning. However, if that is the case, I don't know whether that has been documented.

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE 2016 SONG "WOLOLO"
The official YouTube video for Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha's dance song "Wololo" was published on YouTube on June 24, 2016 by West Ink TV Mampintsha. Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlkybvVEQ4g for that video.*

The song's lyrics are in isiZulu and from KwaZulu Natal (Durban, South African) slang. "Wololo" is an example of South Africa's Gqom music which, if I understand it correctly, is a form of Afro-House music.

Reflecting the fact that "Wololo" is a mega hit in South Africa as well as in many other African nations and elsewhere in the world, the official YouTube video for that song has gone viral with 8,565,553 total views (as of August 1, 2018 at 11:43 PM EST).

The familiarity with this song in the United States may be largely attributed to Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha's "Wololo" being featured in the blockbuster 2018 American blockbuster movie Black Panther (in the beginning of the scene when T'Challa walks into his sister's lab, and the discussion of that song's usage in multiple YouTube discussion threads. Here's a line to a clip of that scene https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ulcbLwL-u8Y.
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*Note that some scenes in that video may not be suitable for children because of the camera's focus on women's butts.

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PRONUNCIATION
Based on its use in Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha's song, "wololo" is pronounced "woh-LOH-loh".

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SELECTED COMMENTS ABOUT THE SOUTH AFRICAN MEANINGS OF THE WORD "WOLOLO"
The content of this pancocojams post reflects that several meanings have been attributed for the South African (and/or other African cultures') word "wololo" including the assertion that this word doesn't have any fixed definition, but can mean whatever anyone wants it to mean.

This post includes all the definitions that I've found as of this date. Additions and corrections are welcome.

The internet sources for these comments are numbered for referencing purposes only and the comments from those sources are also numbered for referencing purposes only.

Excerpt #1:
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlkybvVEQ4g "Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha - "Wololo" [official video]
1. Alex F, 2017
"Came here for authentic Wololo!

Was heavily disappointed."

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REPLY
2. Mwafrika Mkenya, 2017
"Alex F Bantu and Nilotic tribes all across Africa have been saying the word Wololo since the beginning of civilization, talking about auntetism. We've been using the word even b4 age of empires or TV"
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I'm not sure what the word "auntetism" means. Could it be a typo for "antecedent"?

In the comment section for this post that is found below I've referred to some online comments about the possible connection between certain Igbo and/or Yoruba (Nigeria, West African) words and the chant "woyoyo" that is found in some Caribbean Reggae songs such as Bob Marley's "Buffalo Soldier" and Ini Kamoze'S "Listen to Me Tic".

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3. Danielle Ya E. MANDA, 2017
"what does Wololo means pliz?"

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REPLY
4. Bongumusa Vincent, 2017
"turn-up"
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This is the most often cited meaning of "turn up" that I've come across online.

"Turn up" originated in African American Vernacular English and means "having fun" (at a party or elsewhere), "being hyped"; "going wild", "getting loose" (i.e. letting go of your inhibitions and therefore being your real self). As noted in this 2014 article entitled "What Does It Really Mean to ‘Turn Up’" https://www.thecut.com/2014/04/what-does-it-really-mean-to-turn-up.html, "when [rapper] Lil Jon asks us “turn down for what?” in his chart-topping single “Turn Down for What” featuring DJ Snake, ....the listener is obligated to bellow back “NOTHING"."...

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Excerpt #2
From http://urbanafricaclub.com/babes-wodumo-wololo-south-africa Babes Wodumo ft. Mampintsha – Wololo (South Africa), published by urbanaafricaclub, no dated given
..."While ‘Wololo’ translates into „Wohoo!“ and was meant to spread awareness of the consequences of drug abuse: „ …the next day you won’t remember where you ended up sleeping, Wololo…!“
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The second half of this sentence is one description that is given for the meaning of the song "Wololo".

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Example #3:
From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4tiXWkfUeHk "Babes Wodumo ft Mampintsha - Wololo ( REACTION VIDEO )"
1. Ngasiirwe Katushabe, 2017
..."Wololo" is actually more an ad-libbed word that can change meaning but thanks to Babes nkw [now] generally refers to the way she uses it in this song.

South African languages like Xhosa and Zulu invent new words for emphasis on things everyday, many of which coming about as a result of the sound of something or the feeling of what is meant.
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This commenter (who referred to himself or herself as "Ngasii the Context Kid" posted a long explanation about the song "Wololo", including some Zulu to English translations of the song's lyrics. This complete comment is included in this pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2018/08/babes-wodumo-ft-mampintsha-wololo-and.html.

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2. Sparks Chiliza, 2017
"Wololo means (Turn Up/Have Fun) ."

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3. Zama Dladla, 2017
"Far from it honestly. It's just an exclamation like "Yeah" . Literal meaning when someone says it it means they are giving an approval or praise to someone who is good at something. For example if dancers compete and then this one particular dancer who's really good comes in I may just say "Wololo" in anticipation or say it out loud if I am enjoying the way the dancer does his/her moves."

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4. Mongameli Productions, 2017
"Sparks Chiliza πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚lies"

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5. nothando bhengu, 2017
"nope its an exclamation of approval"

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6. Songezo Mbebe, 2017
"Wololo doesnt really have a meaning, it could mean whatever you want it to mean"

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7. thabo selepe, 2017
"means turn up, the song is basically about turning up and tomorrow you have no idea what happened and where you woke up..."

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Example #4
From https://babezwudumo.wordpress.com/2016/10/29/wololo-babes-wodumo/
..." You hear this song ‘Wololo’ everywhere… (I’ve been told that the translation of Wololo = Wololo… I understand it to mean something like “whoo!”)"

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