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Showing posts with label Jamaican culture. Show all posts

Wednesday, February 25, 2026

Reggie Stepper's 1990 Dancehall Song "Kimbo King" (YouTube Discussion Thread Comments (Part III)

 

Showcase YouTube Sound File #1: Reggie Stepper - "Kimbo King"

ladydontekno, Feb 22, 2009

Another dancehall classic!

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part III of a three part pancocojams series about Reggie Stepper's 1990 now classic Jamaican dancehall song "Kimbo King" (also given as "Kim-bo King"). 

This post presents selected comments from two YouTube discussion threads about Reggie Stepper's song "Kimbo King".  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/02/reggie-steppers-1990-dancehall-classic.html
 for Part I of that pancocojams series. That post also presents my speculations about the meanings of the word "kimbo" in Reggie Stepper's 1990 dancehall song "Kimbo King". 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/02/what-does-word-kimbo-mean-in-reggie.html for Part II of this pancocojams series.That post showcases one 2025 YouTube video of Reggie Stepper performing his composition "Kimbo King". The second 2025 YouTube video showcases Reggie Stepper performing "Kimbo King" and a few other examples of his hit dancehall songs.

This post also presents my speculations about the meanings of the word "kimbo" in this song.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Reggie Stepper for his musical legacy. Thanks to the publisher of this sound file and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. 
-snip-
This pancocojams series is a revision and an expansion of this 2023 pancocojams post: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/07/reggie-stepper-kimbo-king-what-are.html.which is still available on this blog. .

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM SHOWCASE YOUTUBE SOUND FILE #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zeiki-obkvM

(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)

1.@sirshorty012,2010
"this is TIGHTT"

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2. @jawneblaize, 2010
"Respect!"

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3 @RATMfan92, 2010
"Now this is just a rework of Drum Pan Sound... doh."
-snip-
"Drum Pan Sound" is another Reggie Stepper Dancehall classic.

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Reply
4. @Jolynenizuma22, 2023
"This was before drum pan"

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5. @goudrasta, 2012
"nuff respect mon big respect from jamaica ! selassie i the first"

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6. @evertzinho, 2012
"Pon de corner ah pure posing.. ... Nuff people business watching... always in ah mix-up an' ting.  We call dem Kimbo King!!!"
-snip-
These are lyrics from the song "Kimbo King".

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7. @DIMP11, 2012
"I used to live in the Bahamas at the same time ( I am 43 now) and the irony is that while it was huge in the Bahamas, my Jamaican friend who later went on to become Sean Paul's manager and producer Jeremy "2 Hard" Harding said it was only a minor hit in Reggie's native Jamaica.

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Reply
8. @DwayneNewmanify, 2012
"
I was on vacation in the Bahamas August 1989 and heard this song and I had to have it so my cousin found it for me and when I brought it back to New York I played it everywhere i went and people questioned me for the song artist...just a Powerful Song!!"

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Reply
9.@sheldonmendoza, 2023
"Reggie Stepper said the first show he ever went to perform abroad in was Bahamas"

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Reply
10. @kennethcumberbatch9910, 2024
"
You was in a great place. Hope you return and make new memories"

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Reply
11. @bigcitydreamz4444, 2025
"I never knew this was considered dancehall music"

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12. @sircedricgardner7757, 2017
"One time gone that a lazy mon"
-snip-
This comment and the following comment are lyrics from the song 'Limbo King".

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Reply
13. @sircedricgardner7757, 2017
"Eye hustle and beg for money and don’t want to grow or add to society"

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14. @simonfrancis7210, 2017
"Big, big, big tune"

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15. @barcelonaguayaquil9213, 2017
"Old school kidddddd"

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16. @reeelBKFLATBUSHnyc, 2017
"WHEN BIG BELLY FAT GOLD ROPE CHAIN DRUG DEALERS (CRACK ERA) WOULD TAKE THEIR GIRLS AND OTHER GIRLS TO A DANCE AND WHINE UP IN A CORNER..."

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17. @amberwoods2645, 2019
"CHUNEEEEEEE"
-snip-
"Chune" is the Jamaican spelling and pronunciation for the word "tune". In Jamaican "chune"("tune") doesn't mean how the song sounds. It is a referent for very popular songs (records) and/or songs that are "hot" (i.e. its "very good"; "fire", "tight", "the bomb" etc. )

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18. @glenoneill3950, 2020
"Brooklyn classic.......by way of yard.........of course.......!..........real people riddim this......".

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Reply
@michelecobin3116, 2020
"So BROOKLYN SAY WHAT!!!!!!! THE BUSH FLATBUSH"
-snip-
"Brooklyn" is a borough in New York City, New York (USA) that has a large number of people of Jamaican descent. "Flatbush" is a neighborhood in Brooklyn

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19. @michelecobin3116, 2020
"
THIS WAS SO HOT IN BROOKLYN NYC"

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20. @kathhyland7544, 2020
"Remember hearing this tune on a pirate radio station around 91 πŸ“»πŸ˜Š"
-snip
"Pirate radio stations" were (are?) unauthorized stations in the United Kingdom that were (are?) known for playing some of the latest Caribbean and other contemporary music.

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Reply
21. @madgunter, 2021
"S
ame here old tape with random pirate stations from Lon. Big up !"
-snip-
"Lon." = London (United Kingdom)

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22. @djmichaeltimex4511, 2021
"as a 3rd generation Bahamian.......all respect due!"

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23. @jfvincent4993, 2021
"This was my very first dancehall album I owned. With the red sleeve and dragon on the back."

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Reply
24. @TBennie1, 2021
"Me tooooooo"

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25. @GangstaComputerGod, 2024
"
Wait! Does he do the “UHHH” in every song πŸ˜‚"

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Reply
26. @JvanEdits, 2024
"
It cracks me up everytime"

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Reply
27. @salimtessa8789, 2025
"It’s his trademark haha"

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28. @darleneslaughter6016, 2024
"Darling Nikki in da building 504 $tanding on Business πŸ’―
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤!!"


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29. @vedettegavin8075, 2024
"πŸ‡―πŸ‡²πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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30. @manfocused, 2024
"Brooklyn house parties!"

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Reply
31. @bigcitydreamz4444, 2025
"Harlem basement parties"

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32. @turbofoot30, 2024
"The 80's had some hot tracks πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ Big big big big big big big big chune πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯"

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33. 
@greerknowlin5450, 2024
"This was everything for me when it dropped"

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34. @MagicMike-rd8mz, 2025
"This is classic right now fire πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯ πŸ”₯"

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SHOWCASE YOUTUBE SOUND FILE #2: Reggie Stepper- Kim-Bo King

rasams13, May 2, 2010

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM SHOWCASE YOUTUBE SOUND FILE #2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p1VZflraXUU

(Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.)

1.
@FALKHET, 2011
"
REGGIE STEPPER LEGEND! UNIQUE STYLE!"

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2. @juvelle100, 2013
"Love this song.. reminds me of the Sunset Reggie club in Decatur, Ga. I used to party at back in the 90's."

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3. @csallen, 2015
"
Real authentic Reggae the 80's and 90's can't be beat"

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4. 
@imari2305, 2015
"Original Kimbo King~~ Wow memories!!"

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5. @melanier7309, 2015
"This song popped into my head out from nowhere yesterday. This is a classic."

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Reply
6. @MuckleTV, 2017
"me too! It randomly popped into my head"

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Reply
7. @richardsonclay9846, 2025
"Me too... today@😊"

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8. @tyestbarnhart2115, 2015
"Dem bout sum damn lazy ting!! lmfao"
-snip-
The words "Dem bout sum damn lazy ting" is from the "Kimbo King" record.

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9.
@florimarrodriguez8410, 2016
"
bam bam riddim?"

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Reply
10. 
@KeithMFCarter, 2016
"
LOL Nope. This is a Stalag riddim. Bam Bam riddim is different (and my favourite riddim). Search Chaka Demus & Pliers' Bam Bam and you'll hear."

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11. 
@lindo3113, 2016
"
This song reminds me of being on the island Freeport in Bahamas walking down the street singing this song on the way to the skating rink"

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Reply
12. @Deerugs, 2017
"
242 in the place !!!"
-snip-
"242" is the telephone area code for The Bahamas 

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Reply
13. @davineecapron4878, 2018
"Hey but we don't have a skating rink anymore time flies but Freeport went DOWN in the ground and it's soo sad and no one is trying to fix it up"

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Reply
14.@jaidynstubbs2508, 2020
"
Freeport I’m the biddy"
-snip-
"Freeport" is the main city on Grand Bahamas which is part of the Bahama islands

"I'm in the biddy" is a colloquial way of saying "I'm in the building" (meaning "I'm here."). 

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Reply
15. 
 @jaidynstubbs2508, 2020
"We got a skating ring now πŸ’―πŸ’―"

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Reply
16. @Kingbcrew, 2025
"
Goombay land"
-snip-
Goombay is a type of Bahamian folk music.

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17. @ronnieobedcarrasquillo397, 2016
"viva Jamaica kimbo king"

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18. @saramckenzie2782,2017
"Damn this song bought back memories when i was going to house parties and its still LITT"

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19.@pamsmith5843, 2017
"
Just old sch feelings today😜"

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20.
@amashirhelena1563, 2018
"big up reggie stepper"

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21.
 @asasemama2290, 2018
"Sure is a classic bring back memories"

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22. @trenellbullock7274, 2019
"This used to be my favorite song in the 90's"

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23. @naturalmystic6548, 2020
"Reminds me of miami in the early 90s good times"

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24.@naturalmystic6548, 2020
""This was the song back in the early 90s in the club in florida."

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25. @karlen5550, 2021
"
Real Classic"

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26. @marycharles4010, 2022
"
Oh yeah πŸ˜Ž Kimbo King... uhhh! In 2022! Uhhhh."

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27. @MagicMike-rd8mz, 2023
"It's  2023 Reggie Stepper Kim-Bo King is still πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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28. 
@DarleneSlaughter-h8f, 2024
"$unny $ide Texas in da building ❤❤πŸŽ‰πŸŽ‰$$!!"

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29. 
@troysthill, 2024
"Song still relevant in2024 Kimbo King Reggie Stepper"

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30. @Lamp.luvr123, 2025
"When music πŸŽΆ had a good message gwan Reggie stepper veteran deejay!!"

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This concludes Part III of this three part pancocojams series.

Thanks for visiting pancocojams.

Visitor comments are welcome.

Tuesday, February 24, 2026

Reggie Stepper's 1990 Dancehall Classic "Kimbo King" (Part I- sound file, information, & some of this song's lyrics)



 

rasams13, May 2, 2010

Artist: Reggie Stepper

Song: Kim-Bo-King

Album: Kim-Bo-King

Country: France

Released: 1992 *

Genre: Reggae  

Style: Reggae, Dancehall
-snip-
* 1990 is the original release date for Jamaican Dancehall artist Reggie Stepper's "Kimbo King".

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision - February 25, 2026 

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series about Reggie Stepper's 1990 now classic Jamaican dancehal song "Kimbo King" (also given as "Kim-bo King").

This post showcases a sound file of Reggie Stepper's song "Kimbo King" along with information about Reggie Stepper and my partial transcription of that song.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/02/what-does-word-kimbo-mean-in-reggie.html for Part II of this pancocojams series.That post showcases one 2025 YouTube video of Reggie Stepper performing his composition "Kimbo King". The second 2025 YouTube video showcases Reggie Stepper performing "Kimbo King" and a few other examples of his hit dancehall songs.

This post also presents my speculations about the meanings of the word "kimbo" in Reggie Stepper's 1990 dancehall song "Kimbo King". 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2026/02/reggie-steppers-1990-dancehall-song.html  for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post presents selected comments from two  YouTube discussion threads about Reggie Stepper's song "Kimbo King".    

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Reggie Stepper for his musical legacy. Thanks to the publisher of this sound file and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. 
-snip-
This pancocojams series is a revision and an expansion of this 2023 pancocojams post: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/07/reggie-stepper-kimbo-king-what-are.html.which is still available on this blog. ..

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INFORMATION ABOUT REGGIE STEPPER
From 
https://www.facebook.com/RootsWarrior/posts/october-17happy-birthday-reggie-stepper-%EF%B8%8F%EF%B8%8Ftoday-october-17th-we-celebrate-the-bi/1387180033415484/

ROOTS WARRIOR SOUND, October 17, 2025

"HAPPY BIRTHDAY REGGIE STEPPER ! πŸ‡―πŸ‡²⭐️πŸŽ™️

Today, October 17th, we celebrate the birthday of one of Jamaica’s most unique and beloved voices in dancehall : Reggie Williams, better known to the world as Reggie Stepper.

Born and raised in Kingston, Jamaica, Reggie has made his mark with a distinctive sound characterized by his fast-talking “chatting” style, blending DJing with singing, and his deep baritone voice that sets him apart from the crowd. Here’s a look at his incredible journey and musical contributions!

Reggie Williams was born in the late 1960s in Jamaica, in a time when reggae and dancehall were becoming defining cultural movements. Growing up in the tough streets of Kingston, Reggie was surrounded by the vibrant energy of the soundsystem culture, which would play a huge role in shaping his career. Influenced by legendary artists such as Papa San and General Trees, Reggie began developing his own style, eventually crafting the fast-paced, rhythmic delivery that would become his signature sound.

The name Reggie Stepper became known in the late 1980s and early 1990s, when he exploded onto the scene with a series of hit tracks. One of his breakthrough moments came in 1990 with the song “Kimbo King”, which showcased his fast-chat style and immediately made him a favorite among dancehall lovers. His biggest hit, however, was the 1993 classic “Cu-Oonuh” produced by Patrick Roberts of Shocking Vibes Productions. The track’s infectious rhythm and Reggie’s clever wordplay propelled him to international acclaim, even reaching reggae and dancehall charts outside of Jamaica.

Reggie Stepper’s career is marked by several memorable singles, albums, and collaborations that have left a lasting impact on the genre.

Notable Singles:

 • “Kimbo King” (1990)

 • “Cu-Oonuh” (1993)

 • “Drum Pan Sound” (1993) *

 • “Under Mi Sin Ting”

 • “Kimbo Clap”

[...]

Beyond his hits, Reggie’s influence can be seen in the newer generation of dancehall artists who have embraced and evolved his chat-style vocals. Artists like Elephant Man and Vybz Kartel have taken cues from Reggie’s distinctive delivery, ensuring that his legacy continues.

While he may not be as active in recent years, Reggie Stepper remains a beloved figure in dancehall. His songs continue to get airplay, and his influence is undeniable. Fans old and new alike celebrate his contribution to the genre that has taken Jamaican culture global.

On this special day, we honor Reggie Stepper for his talent, his contributions to dancehall, and for representing Jamaica with pride throughout his career. Join us in wishing him many more years of success, health, and happiness !

Happy Birthday, Reggie Stepper!" 
-snip-
* Most online sources indicate that Reggie Stepper's song "Drum Pan Sound" was recorded and released in 1990.

YouTube comments that I've read indicate that Reggie Stepper's "Kimbo King" was recorded and released in 1990 before "Drum Pan Sound". 

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LYRICS - KIMBO KING (draft transcription)* 
(by Reggie Stepper)

 […]

I wanna get this song out to all the people around the world
I fire this one to all the people around the world

Boom!

Original kimbo king uuuuhhhhhh
Kimbo queen and a king uuuuhhhh
Original kimbo king uuuuhhhhhh
Kimbo queen and a king uuuuhhhh
They wanna laze around sittin uuhhhh
they want to do nothing uuuhhh
they’re fond of money making uuuhhh
And fond of kimbo watchin uuuhhh
and they pon de corner ah pure posing. uuuhhh.
And in the mix of every ting uuuhhh
 Nuff people business watching  uuuhhh

[…]

They live in Brooklyn
And they make their livin
We call dem Kimbo King!!!

[…]

Kimbo Kimbo what fon a kimbo
Tell you what work and I tell you who I am

[…]

They full of passion
One time gone we call em lazy man
One time gone we call em lazy woman
But now days we have a different passion
Original kimbo king uuuuhhh
Kimbo queen and a king uuuuhhhh
Original kimbo king uuuuhhhhhh,
Kimbo queen and a king uuuuhhhh
He went to work last Saturday
I let him know that this is Thursday

One time gone that a lazy mon
Eye hustle and beg for money
and don’t want to grow or add to society 

[...]


-snip-
*This is my draft transcription of this song.


Additions and corrections are very welcome for my attempted transcription of this dancehall classic. 

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WHAT IS REGGIE STEPPER'S SONG "KIMBO KING" ABOUT 

[Additions and corrections are welcome.]
 
The dancehall song "Kimbo King" criticizes those men and women who the singer calls "kimbo kings" and "kimbo queens".

The singer says that these people used to be called "lazy men and lazy women" (Lyrics: "
One time gone that a lazy mon". 

The singer describes "kimbo kings and kimbo queens" as people who either don't have a steady job or who don't consistently show up for their jobs. Instead, they spend their time hanging out in the street corners, hustling, begging, or socializing and (presumably-given the "king" and "queen" referents-also either "lord" it over other people or act like they are big stuffs (very important people who expect everyone to be obsequious toward them. . 

Part of the reason why the singer is so critical of these "kimbo kings and kimbo queens" is because he believes that they don't contribute anything positive to society [Lyrics- "Eye hustle and beg for money and don’t want to grow or add to society."] 

Furthermore, the singer believes that a person's worth is judged by the work he or she does and -
by extension-how that person works at that job tells you who that person is: [Lyrics - "Tell you what work and I tell you who I am".]

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i believe that the term "original" in this song refers to "authentic" / "real" and not "the first". In the context of this song, "original" adds to the singer's criticism of these kimbo kings and queens. . 

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Brooklyn, a borough of New York City, New York (USA)* is named in the Jamaican dancehall song "Kimbo King" because of its high number of residents from Jamaica.

The other boroughs of New York City are 
 Manhattan, Queens, The Bronx, and Staten Island   Harlem is a neighborhood in Manhattan.

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This concludes Part I of this pancocojams series.

Thanks for visiting pancocojams.

Visitor comments are welcome.

Saturday, February 10, 2024

Information About People & Characters And Explanations For Cultural References In Busta Rhymes' 1996 Hip Hop Record "Woo Ha!! Got You All In Check

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest Update - Feb. 11, 2024

This is Part II of a four part pancocojams series on Busta Rhymes' 1996 Hip Hop record "Woo Ha! Got You All In Check". 

This post presents information about real or fictitional people or characters mentioned in Busta Rhymes' 1996 record "Woo Hah!! Got You All In Check". This post also presents some explanations of certain things or terms that are included in that record.

In addition, this pancocojams post also includes my speculation about likely sources for two other lines in Busta Rhymes' 1996 song "Woo Ha!! (Got You All In Check)". 

Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/02/what-i-got-you-all-in-check-really.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That pancocojams post showcases a clean YouTube video of the original version of "Woo Hah Got You All In Check". This post also presents a link to the official (explicit) video of that record. The summary of that video presents the complete lyrics for that 1996 Hip Hop record.

That post also includes brief information about Busta Rhyme from his Wikipedia page. 

That pancocojams post also provides my general interpretations of the sayings "got you in check" and "got you all in check" and my interpretation of those sayings as they refer to Busta Rhyme's 1996 Hip Hop record with that title.

In addition, that post also presents quotes from several online sources about the meaning of the saying "got you all in check" as Busta Rhymes uses it. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/02/memories-of-hearing-busta-rhymes-1996.html for Part III of this pancocojams series. That post presents examples of memories that some people shared about first hearing and seeing Busta Rhymes' 1996 record "Woo Ha!! Got You All In Check".

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/02/examples-of-bad-breath-you-need-winter.html for Part IV of this pancocojams series. That post presents several memories that commenters on two YouTube discussion threads shared about a 1990s children's insult rhyme that was inspired by Busta Rhyme's record "Woo Ha!! (Got You All In Check".

The content of this post is presented for cultural and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Busta Rhymes for his musical legacy. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.

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Click https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFrl7rnCx4A for "Busta Rhymes ft. Ol' Dirty Bastard - Woo-Hah!! Got You All In Check (The World Wide Remix)", published by Busta Rhymes, Sep 20, 2019-official music video [Explicit] (1996) 

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WARNING - Busta Rhymes' "Woo Hah!! Got You All In Check record and official video (as well as the official video of the remix of that song whose link is given above) includes profanity and a form of the "n word".

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INFORMATION ABOUT  PEOPLE  & CHARACTERS AND EXPLANATIONS FOR CULTURAL REFERENCES IN BUSTA RHYMES' 1996 HIP HOP RECORD "WOO HA!! GOT YOU ALL IN CHECK

The list given below (referred to as "the entries") are are numbered for referencing purposes only and are written in italics within the lines (lyrics) from that record.


These entries are given in their order of appearance in the lyrics to Busta Rhymes' original 1996 record "Woo Ha!! (Got You All In Check) as given in the summary of that record's official YouTube video 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQzvQO2LcA4 published by Busta Rhymes, May 8, 2020.

1. "
I'm guaranteed to give you what you need
One blood everybody like Junior Reid"
-snip-
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Junior_Reid
'
Delroy "Junior" Reid (born 6 June 1963) is a Jamaican reggae and dancehall musician, best known for his featuring on the songs "One Blood", "It's Okay (One Blood)" and "This Is Why I'm Hot", as well as being the lead vocalist for Black Uhuru on three albums: Brutal, Positive and Black Uhuru Live in New York."...


** 2. "
Peace to Baby Phife, Q-Tip, Ali Shaheed"
-snip-
Members of the New York Hip Hop group A Tribe Called Quest 
Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Tribe_Called_Quest for information about this group.

Also, click
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scenario_(song) to read about Busta Rhymes' guest solo in a Tribe Called Quest's 1992 song "Scenario". That page includes the information that "The song is commonly considered a breakout moment for Leaders of the New School member Rhymes 19 when this song was released.[2] Time included the song on its list of its All-TIME 100 Songs.[3]." 
-end of quote-
As the next line indicates, there's more to the story of Busta Rhymes and The Tribe Called Quest .

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3. "Watch me knock you out like Apollo Creed"
-snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apollo_Creed
"Apollo Creed is a fictional character from the Rocky franchise, played by Carl Weathers. He appeared in the first four Rocky films. Creed is the main antagonist in Rocky and Rocky II, and one of the protagonists in Rocky III and Rocky IV."...

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4. "Do the bogle dance, man, do the pepperseed"
-snip-
The "bogle dance" and the 'pepperseed" are two of the dances created by Jamaican dancehall dancer and choreographer Gerald Levy (Mr. Bogle) (22 August 1964 – 20 January 2005), 
Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bogle_(dancer) for information about "Mr. Bogle" (also known as Mr Wacky and other nicknames. Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2022/05/jamaican-dancer-latonya-styles.html for the pancocojams post entitled "Jamaican Dancer Latonya Styles Demonstrates 22 Authentic Dancehall Steps That Were Created By Mr Bogle".

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5. "Top Gun shut down your firm like Tom Cruise"
-snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Top_Gun
" Top Gun is a 1986 American action drama film[2].... It stars Tom Cruise as Lieutenant Pete "Maverick" Mitchell, a young naval aviator aboard the aircraft carrier USS Enterprise"...

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6."Busta Rhymes coming through from the Flip Mode Squad"
From 
https://www.last.fm/music/Flipmode+Squad/+wiki
"The Flipmode Squad was the production crew and musical family, founded and fronted by rapper Busta Rhymes."...

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7. "Bo! Coming through like G.I. Joe" -snip- From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.I._Joe
"G.I. Joe is an American media franchise and a line of action figures owned and produced by the toy company Hasbro.[3][4] ". G.I. Joe's appeal to children has made it an American icon among toys."...

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8. "Star Wars moving ill like Han Solo"
-snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Star_Wars#Films
"Star Wars is an American epic space opera[1] media franchise created by George Lucas, which began with the eponymous 1977 film."...
-snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Han_Solo
"Han Solo is a fictional character in the Star Wars franchise created by George Lucas"...

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9. "Make you bounce around like this was calypso" -snip- From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calypso_music
"Calypso is a style of Caribbean music that originated in Trinidad and Tobago during the early to the mid-19th century"...

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10. "Always shine cause I got the Hi-Pro Glow" -snip- "High Pro Glow" has several meanings. It may refer to different products that make skin shine. "High Pro Glow" also has a sexuaizedl meaning which is probably what is meant in this song. ** 11."Roll up on your a*s like Hawaii 5-0"
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_Five-O_(1968_TV_series)
"Hawaii Five-O is an American police procedural drama series....Set in Hawaii, the show originally aired for 12 seasons on CBS from September 20, 1968, to April 8, 1980, and continues in reruns."...

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12. "Macked out with my dreads" -snip- "mack out" = several meanings, including "To dress sharp, impress through clothing.".https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Macked%20Out [Warning-This page includes sexually explicit references]
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"dreads"
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https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/dreadlocks
"
a hairstyle in which the hair hangs in long thick twisted pieces:"

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13. ..." and my Kangol"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kangol "
Kangol is a British clothing company famous for its headwear.
[...]
In the 1980s Kangol berets entered a new phase of fashion history with their adoption by members of the hip-hop community, such as Grandmaster Flash, Run-DMC, LL Cool J, Slick Rick, Kangol Kid of UTFO, and The Notorious B.I.G.

The brand was popularised even more by the 1991 movie New Jack City."...

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14. "Forget the Moet ...just pass the Cisco" -snip-
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mo%C3%ABt_%26_Chandon
"MoΓ«t & Chandon (French: [mΙ”Ι›t‿e ΚƒΙ‘̃dΙ”̃]),[1] also known simply as MoΓ«t, is a French fine winery and part of the luxury goods company LVMH MoΓ«t Hennessy Louis Vuitton SE."...
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From https://www.baltimoresun.com/1991/01/06/cisco-wine-is-full-of-surprises-alcohol-officials-says/
"What is the alcoholic drink Cisco?

“Takes you by surprise!” reads the cheery slogan for Cisco, a fruit-flavored beverage produced by New York's Canandaigua winery. The claim rings true, for Cisco's alcohol is 20 percent, almost twice that of most wines and four times that of wine coolers.Jan 6, 1991"

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LIKELY SOURCES FOR TWO ADDITIONAL LINES IN BUSTA RHYMES' WOO HA!! (GOT YOU ALL IN CHECK)" 
These lyrics are from the summary of the official (explicit) video whose link is given above.

Numbers have been added for referencing purposes only.

1. "How dare you ever try to step on my suede shoes"
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I believe that this line alludes to the song "Blue Suede Shoes".
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blue_Suede_Shoes

" "Blue Suede Shoes" is a rock and roll standard written and first recorded by American singer, songwriter and guitarist Carl Perkins in 1955. It is considered one of the first rockabilly records, incorporating elements of blues, country and pop music of the time. Perkins' original version of the song appeared on the Cashbox Best Selling Singles list for 16 weeks and spent two weeks at the number two position.[2]

Elvis Presley recorded "Blue Suede Shoes" in 1956 and it appears as the opening track of his eponymous debut album Elvis Presley. Presley performed his version of the song three different times on national television"...

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2. "Sail my seven seas and enjoy my boat cruise"
I believe that this line has a sexualized meaning in that record. However, click
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_Seas for the source of the saying "sail the seven seas".

Also, my guess is that the words "enjoy my boat cruise" may have alluded to The Love Boat television series.
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Love_Boat
"The Love Boat is an American romantic comedy-drama television series that aired on ABC from September 24, 1977 to May 24, 1986. In addition, three TV movies aired before the regular series and four specials and a TV movie aired after it."...

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Wednesday, January 25, 2023

The Meaning Of "Jack Mandora Me Nuh Choose None" (Ending Statement For Jamaican Anansi Stories)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information and opinions about the origin and meaning of the "Jack Mandora Me Nuh Choose None" ending statement for Anansi stories in Jamaica.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric. cultural, and educational purposes. 

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/01/anansi-and-birds-folktale-with.html for a closely related pancocojams post for more information about Anansi as well as two renditions of the folklore "Anansi And The Birds". 

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INFORMATION ABOUT THE "JACK MANDORA" ENDING STATEMENT FOR ANANSI STORIES IN JAMAICA

These excerpts are given in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only.
 
Excerpt #1
From 
https://www.facebook.com/JISVoice/videos/did-you-know-that-jack-mandora-me-nuh-choose-none-means-no-blame-should-be-attri/10156399145336457/ Jamaica Information Service, April 24, 2018  ·
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Did you know that “Jack Mandora me nuh choose none” means no blame should be attributed to listener, storyteller or writer of an Anancy story? Learn more about this and other interesting Anancy story facts in this video.

If you like Anancy stories comment and tell us “Jack Mandora me nuh choose none.” "

The Phoenix in a Gas House,  January 29, 2009
"Who is Jack Mandora?

Jack Mandora me no choose none. If you have ever heard an Anancy story, as many Jamaican children have had for so many years, this is the statement made to signal the end of the story. But who is Jack Mandora and why is it necessary to constantly inform him of choices in such simple things as a story? So much of who we are collectively as a people tends to be ignored because it is already so ubiquitous in our psyche. It is easy for us to forget when we live in an age of instant gratification and microwave knowledge, that stories were never just stories. Forgive me for I have strayed a little but I promise you I will deal with that topic in another piece.

There are many tales as to who this Jack Mandora is. In many African tribes, stories were told and to a great extent still are told as an object. Words do not escape the lips for the mere enjoyment of the sound of one’s voice. Instead they acted as parables that manifested in a cunningly constructed story directed at an individual that needed to learn something or be warned, et cetera. For the village the innuendo would be exceedingly hard to miss. Jack Mandora in this case could be interpreted as the individual and his/her combolo (friends). Now in the event, a story was told for the fun of it, as a mere diversion of thought, it was thought only good manners to say “This story is not aimed at you or anyone else, nor am I wishing the same fate on you.” Hence Jack Mandora me no choose none.

In many West African tribes Anancy was more than just a lazy ginnal (trickster) with a funny sounding lisp. In fact among such tribes as the Ashanti, the Akan and other persons who spoke the Twi language, Anancy was the god of knowledge, and for some tribes Jack Mandora the keeper of heaven’s gate. In essence, the early Samuel L. Jackson version of St. Peter. Part of the process of gaining entrance to a pleasant hereafter was to tell an Anancy story to prove that one had a wise existence in the time spent on earth. Souls who could not would be turned away and forced to watch reality T.V. for eternity.

Now Anancy has been cunning long before NicolΓ² Machiavelli ever thought of writing the Prince. Sometimes in Anancy stories he would do very ‘Wicked things’ the statement then acted as a disclaimer of sorts. It did two things:

It absconded the storyteller from any blame, that is any trick performed by the cunning spider which was immoral this made it clear it was not the same position of the storyteller.

Should parts of the story be exaggerated then the storyteller could never be viewed as a liar so when his day came to stand before Jack Mandora, such stories told would not be part of the judgement.

An alternate position on this issue is provided by linguist Frederic G. Cassidy who believes the story of Jack Mandora is nothing as exotic as an African Gilly Priest, "The Original Gateman" (gatekeeper). In fact he believed it to be nothing more than a bastardized English Nursery rhyme which went something like this:

‘Jackanory
I’ll tell you a story
And this is how it’s began
I’ll tell you another
Of Jack and his brother and now my story’s done.’

Personally I prefer the idea of the gatekeeper. And while the version put forward by Mr. Cassidy seem plausible in my mind its just doesn’t add up to what we know from those of us who actually paid attention in West African History classes. To me Cassidy’s version feels much like clinging to colonialism and the idea that nothing of value could come about without the direct or indirect influence of Colonial masters. Anancy acted as a symbol of hope for oppressed people that the small and crafty could out manoeuvre the great and powerful. Why then would they knowingly associate in the end to those who were the oppressors? To me that just don’t add up, but so mi get it, so mi sell it, mi nuh add nor subtract it."
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Pancocojams Editor's Note [rewritten on June 11, 2025 to clarify what I originally wrote.] 
I disagree with that writer's statement that the ending statement "Jack Mandora" me nuh choose none" in Jamaican Anansi stories has nothing to do with "Jackanory" in the English nursery rhymes.
 
Instead, I believe that the name "Jack Mandora" is either a purposeful or accidental folk processed form of  "Jackanory". The Jamaican "Jack Mandora" statement has a different meaning than the "Jackanory" statement, but those names and the use of those statements to end  stories are clearly similar. Here's a quote from an online page about "Jackanory" 
https://allnurseryrhymes.com/jack-a-nory/
"Jack A Nory

Traditional nursery rhymes

The thyme was first recorded around 1760 in “The Top Book of All For Little Masters and Misses” collection.

Those of us with children will know how persistent they can be when they want something! This rhyme is sometimes used to discourage the demand for a story.

Many UK residents of a certain age will remember this as being a popular children’s show from the 60’s continuing until 1996, when celebrities of the day would read stories in a twenty minute program timed to start just after most children arrived home from school."
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In that article 'traditional nursery rhymes" means rhymes that are traditional in the United Kingdom. 
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Click https://www.gutenberg.org/files/35410/35410-h/35410-h.htm for a digital copy of   "Jamaican Song and Story: Annancy stories, digging sings, ring tunes, and dancing tunes" by Walter Jekyll. Part I of that 1904* book is labeled "Annancy Stories". All of those stories end with the saying "Jack Mantora me no choose none." 

The release date for the Gutenberg digital copy of that book is
 February 26, 2011 [EBook #35410]. The original book has the dates 1904, 1906 and 1907. I'm not aware of any earlier documentation of the use of the statement "Jack Mantora" or "Jack Mandora") me no choose none".

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Excerpt #3
From https://www.nytimes.com/1987/05/17/books/l-me-nuh-chose-none-117687.html letter to the editor from Daryl Cumber Dance, Santa Barbara, Calif
"To the Editor:

I wish to respond to Noel J. MacCarry's inquiry in his letter (April 19) about the traditional closing line of Jamaican folktales, ''Jack Mandora me no chose one'' (a query motivated by Beverly Lyon Clark's Jan. 25 review of Jane Yolen's ''Favorite Folktales From Around the World'').

The addressee has been variously interpreted as ''Jack, man of the door,'' ''Jack, heaven's doorkeeper'' and ''Jack, Dora's man.'' ''Me nuh chose none'' means that ''I did not choose this story''; that is, do not hold me responsible or accountable for it. The meaning of this line is discussed in Louise Bennett's ''Anancy and Miss Lou,'' Leonard E. Barrett's book ''The Sun and the Drum: African Roots in the Jamaican Folk Tradition'' and my ''Folklore From Contemporary Jamaicans.''.

A version of this article appears in print on May 17, 1987, Section 7, Page 55 of the National edition with the headline: 'Me Nuh Chose None'."

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Excerpt #4
From https://www.real-jamaica-vacations.com/anansi-stories.html
Jamaican Folk Tales

Anansi Stories

"Anansi Stories originated in West Africa. They were brought to Jamaica and other parts of the New World by Ashanti slaves, and were handed down orally through generations. Anansi exists as a spider, a man, or a combination of the two. His name is sometimes spelt Anancy, and his stories called Anancy stories.

Anansi is no goody-two-shoes hero. He is a greedy, lazy, inventive trickster, cunning and smart in the extreme. Anansi loves a joke, and when he's not sleeping, is always up to something.

[This post continues with a rendition of the folktale "Anansi and the snake.]

This is one of the best known Anansi stories, showing up Anansi's tricky, clever side. Compared to others, it shows Anansi in quite a positive light, as the underdog using his brains to triumph in a hopeless situation. Other Anansi stories show up his lazy, greedy side as well, and some tell us of Anansi being too smart for his own good!

Anansi was an important character to generations of slaves, as he demonstrated the ability of the weak and the downtrodden to use brains, wit and cunning to triumph over the oppressor.

The phrase "Jack Mandora, mi nuh choose none" is usually said at the end of Anansi stories and other Jamaican folk tales. It is believed to be a disclaimer, in which the storyteller is informing heaven's gatekeeper (Jack Mandora) that the story is merely being passed on as it was heard, with nothing added to or omitted from it. This is a safeguard, as some of Anansi's activities do not take the moral highground, so to speak, and the storyteller does not want to seem to be in agreement with them!”

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Friday, October 15, 2021

Repetitive Songs In Contemporary Black Worship Services Collection Marches: "Redeem" ("Give Me Some Water To Wash My Hands")



BROTHERTENNYSON, Oct 23, 2010

The Bethel Born Again Choir Jamaica singing and marching during the collecting of the offering. -snip- This video shows the choir (led by an usher) marching around the sanctuary singing two lines from Verse #2 of the song entitled "Redeem". The first line of that clip of "Redeem" "Give me some water, let me wash my hands" is repeated numerous times. Then the choir sings othe second line "I won't be guilty". (That line is itself only part of  the line in that song). The words "I won't be guilty" are repeated numerous times. Afterward, this pattern begins again - numerous times.

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Edited by Azizi Powell


This pancocojams post is part of an ongoing pancocojams series that highlights examples of repetitive songs in contemporary Black worship service collection marches (processionals). 

This post showcases two videos of Bethel Born Again Apostolic Church in Kingston, Jamaica singing the chorus of the song "Redeem" (also given as "Redeemed, I've Been Washed In The Blood Of The Lamb"). 

Selected comments from the discussion thread for these videos are also included in this post. 
The lyrics for the complete song are given in the comments for Video #2 along with some other comments from that discussion thread.  

The Addendum to this post presents a comment from a discussion thread of a Nov. 11, 2011 Bethel 
Born Again Apostolic Church in Kingston, Jamaica video. That comment compliments  the usher who led that choir and also presents the commenter's opinion about the purpose of these marches. The usher who leads the choir in both of the videos in this post may be the same young man as the usher who that commenter wrote about.

The content of this post is presented for religious, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composer/s of this song. Thanks also to Bethel Born Again Apostolic Church in Kingston, Jamaica for their ministeries. Thanks to BROTHERTENNYSON, the publisher of these videos on YouTube.

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DISCLAIMER: "Black worship services" in this title means that all or most of the people in attendance at these worship services are Black. However, these songs can certainly be sung by non-Black people. 

In the title for this ongoing pancocojams series I'm highlighting the fact that these songs (or "choruses" to use the Pentecostal term) are repeated over and over again while the choir marches. I believe that this is an important feature of these marches as repetitive singing or chanting and repetitive movements can help bring down the Holy Spirit.

Click the "repetitive songs in Black worship services" tag to find additional pancocojams posts in this series. 

Also, click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/repetitive-songs-in-contemporary-black.html to read why I began this pancocojams series on Black church collection marches. That Pancocojams Editorial note also includes my overview (purposes) of this pancocojams series on Black church collections marches as well as an encouragement for those who are much more familiar with that tradition than me to add to the historical and cultural record by publishing online information and descriptions about that tradition.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2: 
Bethel Born Again Church of Jesus Christ, Apostolic (Holy Convocation 2012)



BROTHERTENNYSON, Oct 23, 2012

The Bethel Born Again Church of Jesus Christ, Apostolic Mass Choir and the Kids Choir marching during the collecting of the offering on the last night of Holy Convocation 2012. The song is entitled: "Redeem". "The Bethel Born Again is in its 66th Year, but Celebrations 50 years of being at the Oakland Road location in Kingston".
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This video shows the choirs (led by an usher) marching around the sanctuary while singing the complete song entitled "Redeem". 

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREADS FOR THESE VIDEOS

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

Video #1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VD_OgUpH4jw&ab_channel=BROTHERTENNYSON

1. Kafi Zola, 2014
"I like the spirit, but it is difficult to understand what they are singing about.  The church I sometimes attend is too sophisticated to praise the Lord like this. I miss this type of worship."

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2. BROTHERTENNYSON, 2015
""Give me some water, let me wash my hand, I won't be guilty" It is the line of the song "Redeemed, I've been washed in the blood of the lamb".
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The words of that clip of the song "Redeem" (or "Redeemed, I've been washed in the blood of the lamb" are what Pontius Pilate, the Roman govenor of Judaea said when he presided over the trial of Jesus and then ordered Jesus to be crucified.   

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3. 
CalledUntoHoliness, 2021
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The won't be guilty part hits me everytime! Thank God for the cleansing blood and the water of his word that cleanses us!"

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Video #2

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJqKUkCvYXg&ab_channel=BROTHERTENNYSON

1. KRISSY MCINTOSH,2015
"I've been so blessed, that's my church. Amen, give me some water let me wash my hands. I won't be guilty of an innocent man"

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2. Cardi top, 2016
"1. Jesus was having his last passover

Judas was resting upon his shoulder

spoke those words and they were right

one of you going to betray me tonight.

then they began to enquire within,

which of us will do such awful thing"

Mark cried out "Lord is it I"

Luke cried out "Lord is it I"

John cried out Lord is it I

Judas cried out Lord is it I

and they all cried out Lord is it I

CHORUS

Redeem, redeem, redeem, redeem, I've been washed in the blood of the lamb

2.  Judas been that deceitful man

'twas he would betray that innocent lamb

thirty piece of silver and it was done

but he himself in the woods did hang

Pilot's wife she had a dream

that innocent man she never had seen

give me some water let me wash my hands

I won't be guilty of that innocent man

3.  Jerusalem been six furlongs off

there they nailed him to the Romans cross

they ribbit his hands and they nailed his feet

the hammers were heard in Jerusalem street

he called his father, called him in love

the doors and the Windows stood open above

saints wear girdles around their waist

the angels took their wings and Vailed their face"
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These lyrics are from two comments that Cardi top posted on that discussion thread. The second comment was written right after the first one and is a slight correction to the lyrics that were previously given.

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3. Tamara Bennett, 2018
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Is this a revival church"

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4. BROTHERTENNYSON, 2018
"Tamara Bennett, Praise the Lord Jesus, It is not a revival church. The church that is featured is an Apostolic Church. The excerpt is of the collection of the offering and this is the ministry of the choir singing and marching. Be blessed"

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ADDENDUM : SELECTED COMMENT FROM ANOTHER DISCUSSION THREAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uyirmZb5fkY&ab_channel=BethelBornAgainChurchOfJesusChrist

A Grand Meeting - Part 2*, published by Bethel Born Again Church Of Jesus Christ, November 22, 2021

Comment:

Christopher Patterson, 2013
"i used to march a choir some years ago and i happen to know how it is done,,this boy is the best i have every seen i want to meet him..the marching of a choir is a ministry all by its self. this is a true display of ministry. Notice that he not only marches with is feet only but his hands(for taring down strong holds) and his whole body. and the expression on his face show seriousness..putting his whole soul in it. his whole body movement strongly tells of leading into a warefar mode(which is what marching a choir is all about...ref; joshua leading the children of Isreal into battle at jericho)....very well done usher...keep on doing the work of God,he will allow some one to minister to u in a different way when the time comes..you are a very good example of a true minister...u have minister to me in a way that u would never understand....u have now caused me to make a serious decision to go back into minister...thanks my brother. i wish to see you personnally one day and bless you with some substance just as you have ministered to me."
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Thank you Christopher Patterson. I added this comment to this pancocojams post because I found what you wrote about the usher leading these marches that are featured in this post and what you wrote about the purpose of  Apostolic marches in general to be profound and somewhat obvious once you think about it. (And perhaps the purpose that you noted for these marches is the same for the African American church choir processionals that used to begin church services but now seldom occur.)

Until I read this comment, I hadn't connected Joshua leading a march around Jericho to the contemporary choirs as God's army marching around the church to fortify the sanctuary from Satan and his forces. Now I get that those marching are a demonstration that they can trample Satan and that they are trampling Satan just like numerous old time church songs said.

And, after reading that comment, it occurs to me that the reason why these Jamaican (and Jamaican influenced) Apostolic church choirs march during the offering is to help ensure that  no evil forces mess with the money that has been collected. 

Prior to reading that comment from Christopher Patterson, I believed that the offering marches as well as the choir marches that began church services were a way of calling forth the Holy Spirit and praising God. I believe those reasons are still true. I also postulated that these Jamaican processional "walk arounds" were an evolution of the 18th century, 19th century and later "ring shouts". I think that that theory is still quite plausible. But maybe the ring shout is a better explanation for the tradition some people have of running around the sanctuary when they feel the Holy Spirit.

I also believe that Black church marches -including those done during collection- occur (or occurred) for the marcher and congregation's visual and aural pleasure. They are fun to watch. A lot of processions are a good show and Black people love being "extra" (going beyond the expected norms). That may explain the sideways formation that are shown in the video of a Jamaican Apostolic choir that is showcased in this pancocojams post: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/repetitive-songs-in-contemporary-black_18.html

Black people's admiration of pagentry may also explain the moving forward while facing backwards that I observed an AME (African Methodist Espicopal) choir perform during a collection march in New Jersey in 2019. My description of that march is included in that same post. 

I'm interested in your thoughts about what Christopher Patterson wrote and what I wrote about why and how these Jamaican walk around marches during offerings occur the way they do and occur when they do.

There's too little information and comments online about these and other Black church marches. Please add to this discussion.   

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Wednesday, October 13, 2021

Video About The History Of Jamaica's Revival Church & A Video Of Zion Sacred Heart Christian Church, A Jamaican Revival Church



ACIJJMB, Nov 4, 2020

This is a short video produced by the African Caribbean Institute of Jamaica/Jamaica Memory Bank (ACIJ/JMB). It explains the tenets of the Revival Church in Jamaica as a Christian denomination - from its emergence in 1860 to present day.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part I of a three part pancocojams series about Revival churches in Jamaica.

This post showcases two videos about the Revival church in Jamaica. The first video presents information about the history of that Christian denomination and the second video showcases Zion Sacred Heart Christian Church, a Jamaican Revival church. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/two-videos-of-jamaicas-kumina.html for Part II of this series.Part II showcases two YouTube videos of Kumina Revivalist music and dancing. Selected comments from this video's discussion thread are included in that post.

Click 
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2021/10/2010-video-about-watt-town-revival.html  for Part III of this pancocojams series. Part III showcases a YouTube video of Jamaica's Kumina churches. Part II also provides a complete reprint of Part II of a 2015 Jamaican Gleaners' three part series on Kumina.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and religious purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks to the producers of these embedded videos, and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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This post is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on Jamaican Revival churches. 
Click the "Jamaican Revivalist Religion" tag for more posts in this series, including "General Information About Jamaica's Revivalists Religious Denominations (with YouTube video: "Who are Zion Revival people ?") http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/04/general-information-about-jamaicas.html   and "Seven Videos Of Jamaican Revivalists Thanksgiving Tables (with information & comments)" http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/04/seven-videos-of-jamaican-revivalists.html .

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BRIEF NOTES ABOUT JAMAICA'S REVIVAL CHURCHES
From http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/the-rise-of-revivalism-in-jamaica_122140?profile=1470 "The rise of Revivalism in Jamaica" by Shalman Scott, January 21, 2018
 "Revivalists are known widely as Revival Zion, Zionist, Revival, and Pocomania — [These churches are] a blend of Baptist, Methodist, Roman Catholic, Anglican, Pentecostal beliefs and practices with modified African beliefs and practices added." 

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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumina#:~:text=7%20External%20links-,Definition,a%20form%20of%20Jamaican%20Revivalism.

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Kumina is also known as Pukkumina or Pocomania, although the latter term is largely pejorative.[4] It is a form of Jamaican Revivalism.[4]

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR VIDEO #1
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
1. Queenie Bee, 2018
"
Spiritual Baptist JA version."

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2. Ro in the cut, 2018
"Jemelia Miller i love jamaican revival & spiritual  Baptist  my parents  are Jamaican but i grew up in spiritual Baptist church  in Canada"

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3. Love Endless, 2019
"Baptist has nothing to do with revivalist totally different sects hun"

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4. Jerene Smith, 2019
"What are those candles for only the Blood of Jesus Christ of Nazareth works"

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5. Shelly-Ann John, 2020
"Candles is for puriry meaning if you live in sin he can break whatever cureses are on you.Especially if you dealung up with unclean stuff in your life.Trust me he can expose you and clean dont play with the lord he is very powerful."

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6. Shelly-Ann John, 2020
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I am from trinudad wow baptist is really powerful wow love it.It surely cleanse your spirit and deliver you.

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7. Delicious Occasions, 2020
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Good to know that revival is still alive in Jamaica. I remember going to one of these churches as a child when I went on holidays to my aunt in St. Thomas. I remember being scared senseless when ladies in white from head to toe marched into the church and started spinning persons around. When they got to me I quickly sat down. It was all very suspicious and scary.   Thank you for preserving this in video form."

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8. Kerry teegs, 2021
"Ironically so did I. Scary for a child indeed"

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9. Luna Lea, 2021
"I smile from ear to ear when viewing this, deny or accept it, so good to see, Africa in Jamaica, I used to follow them and loved the "trumpeting" and later discovered it was to call the Ancestral spirits!πŸ₯³πŸ’šπŸ™πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΌ

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10. miss j Rich, 2021
"All this kind of worship is from Africa ase"

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11. Christine Reynolds, 2021
"My father Kapo was instrumental in pushing for THIS religion to be recognized as such.  “61” as you would  be more my father’s thing.. celestial bodies.. invoking spirits.. African based.. you might think it started in ja... it was brought over!"
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Here's an explanation of "6i" as it is used in the context of this comment:
From https://jamaica-gleaner.com/article/news/20150613/spirit-revival-part-one  "In the spirit of Revival - Part One"  by Paul Williams, June 10, 2015 
..."Revivalism didn't emerge as one cohesive force. There are two branches, the 60 Order or Revival Zion, and the 61 Order or Pocomania. Zion tends to have many elements of orthodox European religions, while Pocomania represents mainly elements of African spiritual worship and practices."
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12. Nico E, 2021
"Your father is a national treasure, a plan should be put in place to preserve and teach these traditions. Otherwise the mysteries of revival die with the elders .

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13. Damion Wallen, 2021
"I am a proud Rivival youth living in new York Rivival all the way big up my Rivival family in jamaica"

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14. Jenny Kaye, 2021
"Blessed be,am a 60 revivalist and all I can say,If a person doesn’t understand it , don’t criticize it . One spirit but different calling .blessed up my brothers and sisters in jesus name."

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15. Celestial Tarot Readings with Sam Jo, 2021
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I am from St Thomas Revival tradition."

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16. KingJDMI, 2020
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Great! If more would get involved and share their faith of Revivalism, Spiritual Church and the Spiritual Baptist, there could be greater respect and understanding. Thank you for sharing. Now, if someone will take time to explain the use of the cords, talcum power etc., that would help even more."

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2: 
Zion Sacred Heart Christian Church



Rupert Bourne, Apr 15, 2014

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR VIDEO #2 
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only

1. dellee smith dellee smith, 2014
"glory!!!"

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2. Oneil Gordon, 2018
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Glory to God dancing for the almighty God."

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3. Oquive Morgan, 2015
"I love Jamaican revival so much u'll making dance all the time"

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4. John Miller, 2018
"Real talk"

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5. Angela Reid, 2016
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I wish you all were in New York or Pennsylvania, USA. I'm  from Jamaica, and I was raised in a Revival Zion church just like this one. So, I'm accustom to worshiping  like this. It touches every part of me and reminds me of going to church with my grandmother. No other church can worship like Zoin church. When you're done for the day, you already lost ten pounds. Revival church gives you a work out!! No gym is required when you attend a Revival church lol!! God Bless my homeland JAMAICA!!"

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6. Life wid Sammi, 2017
"good movements ...zion ave the key to open may lands"

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7. Shaquan Orlando, 2018
"Revival feel the vibrations watching from my beautiful country Guyana."

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8. Kayson Jones, 2018
"Zion love πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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9. Patra MorningStar, 2019
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Greetings does anyone know the name of the plant that they're carrying over their heads? Thank you so much & God bless. πŸ‡―πŸ‡²❤πŸ’›πŸ’š"

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10. Teddy Boo, 2020
"Jeremiah plant"

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11. Mellicent Slowley, 2018
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Come on revival people"

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12. Luna Lea, 2020
"U can tek de people outa Africa, but u can neva tek Africa outa de people!πŸ₯³πŸ’š"

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13. Safia Seivwright, 2019
"True Revival Time...AMEN, Glory to God."

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14. SIMMAUD, 2020
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What is he spraying around the table (about 5 minutes into the video)?"

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15. Vera Wallace, 2020
"I think it is some kind of water.   "Kananga water""

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16. SIMMAUD, 2020
" @Vera Wallace  I seem to remember Grandma in England sprinkling Rose Water, but somehow "Kananga Water" rings a faint bell."

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17. Claudette James, 2019 
"I love my Zionists"

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18. June Blackwood, 2019
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Yes Zion awake...."

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19. Cynthia Smith, 2020
"I realylove this revival band this is the real Old time."

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Sharron Thompson Mcfarlane, 2020
"I LOVE REVIVAL CHURCH...OH WHAT A BLESSING πŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒ✊✊✊✊πŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒπŸ’ƒ"

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This concludes Part I of this three part pancocojams series on Jamaica's Revival churches.
 
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