Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series that presents selected comments from a Greek Chat.com discussion thread about Greek letter organizations' little sister groups and other auxiliary groups that are associated with fraternities and sororities.
This post presents comments from this GreekChat.com discussion thread that are published from August 2000 to April 2008.on pages 3-6 of that discussion thread.
There are three comments on the seventh page of that GreekChat.com discussion thread. However, those comments appear to be posted for trolling purposes.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/07/greekchatcom-comments-about-little.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. Those comments are published from June 2000 to July 2000 on pages 1 or 2 of that discussion thread.
Most of these comments in that discussion thread are from members of historically Black Greek Letter Organizations (BGLO) regarding those organizations. However, a few of these comments and from members of predominately White Greek Letter Organizations (WGLO) regarding those organizations.
The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2025/07/some-information-about-omega-psi-phi.html for a closely related pancocojams post with the title "Some Information About Omega Psi Phi Fraternity's Little Sister Groups".
For the historical and cultural record, please share any updated information that you know about fraternities' little sister groups and other fraternities' and sororities' auxiliary groups in the comment section below. Thanks!
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE GREEKCHAT.com DISCUSSION: QUESTION-WHAT'S UP WITH AUXILIARY GROUPS. (PART 11)
[Pancocojams Editor's note: Numbers are added for referencing purposes only. These numbers continue from the last number on Part I of this series.
These numbers don't correspond to the numbers that are given to those comments in that online discussion thread.]
https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=452&page=3
21. 08-07-2000, 03:42 AM
Ice Cold Kreator
Location: Atlanta, Ga, USA
"I already know that many people will disagree with me about the purpose of auxilliary organzations...but I felt it necessary to add my $.06...
Here goes...many argue that at inception of these groups in the early 1900's, that these groups operated as a training ground for future AKAs, DELTAs, KAPPAs and what not..They had there own community service, helped out with the affiliate BGLO. And were probably on the Royalty court of that org.
However, today many of these organizations (if still in existence) act like groupies.
I've seen it first-hand, I've talked to many and even know
some...
I am NOT trying to say that they can't be supportive well running groups...but they can be especially detrimental to the reputations of young (naive) black women! I think that is a shame!
Many of these women (and men) get pimped out. Sometimes these organizations form out of rivalry (or lack of support)from the "counterpart" org. I assert that they sometimes get in the crossfire of BGLOs own issues...and end up getting hurt in the process. (such as barred from membership to some BGLO in the future)
Many of them because of their affiliation with that auxillary, will not be allowed to join sororities or fraternities because some of the practices can be questionable...
As an example, I was at a step show and I saw XYZ Sweethearts come on stage, sit in chairs, while XYZ fraternity pretended to be performing cunnilingus under sheets with whipcream...After which, the frat. pulled out thongs panties from under the sheets...while the sweethearts through up their sign and acted like they had just done something spectacular...every sorority in the audience was appauled!!!!!
As I've heard since, many of these girls will not EVER be
looked at as aspirants because their behavior was not ladylike!....I also
question the intent of any chapter of XYZ fraternity that would oversexualize
our sisters in that type of manner...
As such, my suggestion...is not to join em until you find
out exactly how they function and how they will effect your reputation on
campus or in life.
I don't want my daughter joining (pledging) A SWEETS even though I'm an ALPHA...it just may not benefit her the way it might have 90 years ago...Further, those organizations are not supposed to exist and are not sanctioned in most BGLOs.
In the spirit of ALPHA,
I am,
The Ice Cold Kreator...
Small Note: Usually the counterparts of the particular BGLO
does not look upon sweethearts favorably!"....
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This is the way this comment was written in that discussion thread.
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22. 08-07-2000, 07:11 AM
ZetaAce
Location: Somewhere in the Midwest
Quote:
Originally posted by Don't understand...:
Are these auxillary groups only affiliated with BGLO's? I
noticed Sigma Doves in some of these postings. I am a Sigma Kappa and the Dove
is one of our symbols...is there a relation?"
-snip-
end of quote-
"No, the Sigma Doves being referred to here are 'affiliated'
with another group, Phi Beta Sigma Fratenity, Inc."
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23. 08-11-2000, 08:51 PM
icytre
"Hello,
To keep it real, at my school Kappa Sweethearts were seen as "Kappa Groupies". That's it. They were there for "set outs", but they also were active with the Kappas as far as campus programming.
We also had Omega Gems, and their image was not seen as negative or "those are nobodies".
Speaking from a chapter that had an auxiliary group. I believe that they can be a positive. Our Alpha Angels were a good group of girls who eventually became part of a sorority. Why? That was our goal as a fraternity, to mentor and prepare them for Greek Life or any mainstream organization. They assisted in community service, had their own fundraisers, implemented Parliamentarian workshops, and yes they had a call, sign, and strutted at parties.
Although sororities seemed to hate on them, EVERY Black sorority accepted them into their organizations. Why? Because they were genuinely good individuals.
*Point- as long as you carry yourself as a respectable young woman, it doesn't matter."
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24. 08-12-2000, 06:34 AM
SigEpYoda
"Just wondering why most auxilary group were banned. I know
ours was banned because they national office was afraid that ladies in auxilary
groups would sue our organization to be admitted as a full member. Plus the NPC
was getting pissed off about it. This was back in the early eighties or mid
eighties. Not really sure. Anyone herd anything else?"
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Here's information about the NPC from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Panhellenic_Conference
Not to be confused with National Pan-Hellenic Council.
"The National Panhellenic Conference (NPC) is an umbrella or
trade association for 26 national and international women's sororities
throughout the United States and Canada.[1] Panhellenic (lit. 'all-Greek')
refers to the group's members being autonomous social Greek-letter societies of
college women and alumnae."....
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A list of NPC members is given on that Wikipedia page.
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https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=452&page=4
25. 12-24-2005, 12:49 PM
Blu-Sigh
Location: Chi-Town WESTSIDE!!!!
"As a member of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority Inc and a member of
the an Auxiliary group Groove GEMs of Groove Phi Groove Social Fellowship Inc.
I need to add my .82 cents (1920 & 1962)
I feel that being in an aux is what you make of it. If you let yourself get treated like a hoe then that is how people will treat you, but if you hold yourself to a higher standard then you will gain the respect of others. Being a GEM did not prevent me from becoming a Zeta. There are always going to be sterotypes about aux as well as other groups but it is up to the individual to decide what they are going to believe. Are they going to let a few peoples actions shape their judgement of the whole org or are they going to look at the org itself ? As for me I will look at the org itself b/c if I looked at a few peoples actions I wouldn't be a GEM or a ZETA.
Zeta Phi Beta Sorority...Need I say more?
Groove-Sweet to my Black and White Family!!!!"
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https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=452&page=5
26. Old 12-28-2006, 09:06 PM
JDiddy
Quote:
Originally Posted by prettypoodle6
For Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority, Inc, our auxillary group
was the Sigma Rhomeo. And for the most part these were the boyfriends and
husbands of sorority members--and their rolse was to assist us with projects,
community service, and such.
But as stated before, our association with the group was
dissolved in 1990. But if I am not mistaken, some (not all) of these auxillary
groups have since become incorporated entities on there own...(The Fraternal
Order of Sigma Rhomeo, Krimson Kourt, Inc...). Someone please correct me if I'm
wrong!
-end of quote-
"FOCG of Sigma Rhomeo broke away from SGRho in 1980 the NPHC
ruling did not affect the order."
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27. Old 01-16-2007, 05:22 PM
emb021
Location: Florida
Quote:
Originally Posted by prettygyrl
I was wondering exactly what are all the Auxiliary
groups? The only ones I have ever seen was Kappa Sweethearts. I did not any
other exist until I ran into this girl who said she was "pledging"
Que Pearls. The way she was telling it, it was the Ques that were pleding her.
Then I ran across the Sigma Doves before in on of these forums. Do all the
frats have one? Is it really legal for a group pf women to call themselves
Kappa this or Que that? I jusr recently heard that the sororities have guys
that are in this type of groups. Is that true? What are they called? When I saw
those sweethearts they were head to toe in Krimson and Kream. Some even have
nalia? How many are out there? What exactly is that they are supposed to be? Do
they have websites and forums and actual pledge processes like greeks? Do they
function like Greeks? Sorry so many questions Just curious about this though `
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"I can speak about APO to a degree.
While APO as a National Organization has never had any official, national-level auxiliary groups, many of our chapters in the past did have them when either we (or our chapters) were all male.
Many APO chapters had 'chapter sweetheart' groups. When we went co-ed, many of these groups merged into the chapters.
I know out west that many chapters have "Phyettes". I have no idea if these groups still exist.
Tau Chapter at Univ of Florida has the "Jewels of Tau". This group has since split off as an independent group of about 2-3 chapters.
Several of our chapters have (and still have) associations with their local chapter of either Omega Phi Alpha or Gamma Sigma Sigma. Please be advised that APO, OPA, and GSS are all separate and independent groups. While all three groups have common interests and the like, there are no formal links.
Basically, as APO was service Fraternity, these auxiliary groups allowed women who wanted to do this service with our all-male chapters could do so. OPA & GSS allowed them to do so in their own organizations, many times with their local APO Chapters. The 'sweetheart/auxiliary' groups were more closely tied in, but not sure how. APO did (and still does) have a 'sweatheart' pin. No idea of the insignia of the Phyettes or Jewels of Tau. OPA & GSS have their own insignia, etc.
hope this helps.
Michael Brown
APO LM & TB
Chapter Advisor
Section 71 Chair"
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I believe that this comment refers to predominately White Greek letter organizations. (WGLO)
28.
Shona71
Location: Jersey
"Wow....
I did my "sweetheartship" in 1989 - just before we
were so called "banned". The experience was golden and I wouldn't
have had it any other way. Yes, we had line names and numbers and were lightly
'pledged' by the older sweethearts (most of which were in sororities by then),
but one of the first things were were told was NOT to disrespect the ladies of
Zeta Phi Beta in any way shape or form (I'm a Sigma Sweetheart). We had a great
relationship with the Zetas (no animosity, just blue and white love all around)
- maybe because a lot of the Zetas on the yard were Sigma Sweethearts, or maybe
because we knew our boundaries - THEY are the sisters of Phi Beta Sigma, not
US. All that to say - Blue Sweeeeeeeet!!! Always in my heart!
"Snarf"
Sigma Sweetheart #14
Mu Zeta - Fall '89"
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29. 07-31-2007, 04:20 PM
OmegaPDPrez
Location: Philadelphpia
"i am very interested in this thread. i never knew anything
about auxillary groups, as my school does not have any. i looked at the picture
and i am wondering, if members of these groups wear greek letters, does this
suggest that they are initated members into that organization? or is it because
there are other words on the shirt does that constitute as an etirely different
organization? some people have posted positive, other negative, comments and
perspectives on these groups. how am i able to learn a little more about them.
its just something new to me."
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30. 07-31-2007, 05:42 PM
nwu43
Location: Chicago
Quote:
Originally Posted by tld221
"the bigger question: whats up with auxiliaries wearing their
org's letters?
http://photos-b.ak.facebook.com/phot...189041_447.jpg "
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end of quote
"yea i think i saw a lambda lil sis in cali also wearing our
letters. i wasn't very happy.
__________________
L Phi E
hooters #43
Alpha Eta chapter
Northwestern University"
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I believe that this comment refers to a predominately White Greek letter organization. (WGLO)
https://greekchat.com/gcforums/showthread.php?t=452&page=6
31. 08-02-2007, 12:49 AM
AKA_Monet
"Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Inc. does not have an official
auxiliary group for males that requires membership intake proccess. Some
chapters may have a beautillion where young men are honored for their
accomplishments. But it is a revolving young high school men.”…
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32. 04-13-2008, 12:34 AM
rhoyaltempest
Quote:
Originally Posted by lalana2
"Good Evening,
I'm just curious what exactly does the auxiliary groups do im hearing mixed reviews some good others bad i do know that the alpha angels are now incorporated along with the KKI. Can someone help me out.
Thanks
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"The NPHC organizations banned their auxillary groups in 1990
with the exception of Iota Phi Theta who did not join the NPHC until 1996.
Their sweethearts are still recognized by them nationally. All other groups are
no longer recognized or permitted by our organizations.
If these groups are now incorporated and continue to function on their own, great for them, but that has nothing to do with us.
If you still have questions, speak with the members in these
groups on your campus."
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33. 04-20-2008, 07:08 PM
LODDivineLady
"Who has them??
How many sweetheart
auxiliary groups are there?? do they run like sororities and fraternities?? do
they have letters and colors and mascots and what not?? what do they do?? im
mean obviously they help hence the title auxiliary but is that all they do??
help?? i sorry i'm new here and just started hearing about all this stuff..."
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34. 04-31-2008, 6:18 PM
brownsugardivah
@ LODDivine Lady
I cant speak from everyone's auxilary. With the
exception of Krimson Kourts the other auxilaries just seem to be THERE. Certain
chapters of frats keep them around for whatever reason. Which I dont understand
because they arent their own organization and they dont participate in
fraternity business OR really help the pledges online like they USED TO back in
the day. IE: being on court for a fraternity usually you helped the pledge line
and that was it. I know Krimson Kourts Inc (frmer Kappa Sweets) are their own
incorporated non-profit organization. They are an service organization under
the state laws of Iowa. How they function I dont know. I see them with line
numbers and stuff like that so I assume they pledge. And basically function
like a non-greek sorority basically."
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