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Wednesday, December 6, 2023

Memories Of The 1980s Wop Dance & Other Comments From Two YouTube Videos' Discussion Threads



UPROXX Video, July 19, 2009
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Throughout this video of Doug E. Fresh & The Get Fresh Crew's Hip Hop rap "All The Way To Heaven" which was released in 1986 are scenes of African American women and men people dancing the Wop.\
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Hat tip to @aliciaburbank9962, a commenter in discussion thread #1 below, for mentioning this video. Also, hat tip to the other commenters who are quoted in this post who mentioned other 1980s records and other media products that mention or feature scenes of people doing the Wop.

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision - June 18, 2026

This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series about the 1980s/1990s Hip Hop "Wop" dance.

This post presents selected comments from the discussion threads for two of the YouTube videos on the 1980s "Wop" dance that are showcased in Part I of this series.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/12/examples-from-youtube-of-ways-wop-was.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. That post showcases two film clips of 1980s footage of the Wop dance. This post also showcases one instructional video of the Wop and one video performance of this dance by a man who remembers it from the 1980s. 

The Addendum of that post showcases two TikTok compilations that document some ways that the "Wop" is danced in 2023.,,

The content of this post is presented for historical and cultural purposes. I'm particularly interested in documenting the comments that refer to mention of or scenes of people dancing the Wop in 1980s records and in 1980s mass media. 

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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This is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on African American dances with the name "Wop". Click the tag below for other pancocojams posts in this series.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/12/timeline-of-wop-records-significant.html for my editorial comment in the Addendum to that post that presents my theory that the origin of the dance name "Wop" comes from about the word "doo-wop". 

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THESE VIDEOS' DISCUSSION THREADS
with numbers added for referencing purposes only

DISCUSSION THREAD #1 - How to Do the Wop | Hip-Hop Dancing
Howcast



Howcast, 
Sep 22, 2012

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XzmhNJ4ASbg
    How to Do Hip-Hop Dance Moves

"Okay. So we got the Wop we're working on now. Another dance from a little back in the day, right? So we're going to start, feet apart, knees bent. The Wop, we're going to just get the groove first. The Wop has an up groove, right? So we're going to accent up. Accent up. Just bending my knees but the stronger motion's up. Up, up, up, up.

Tricky thing is you're arms are opposite. So you go down, arms come up. You go up, arms go down. Swing, like you're swinging a baseball bat, kind of. And, and, and, and you get your head in the game. Boom, boom, boom, boom. You can move your feet. You can step. Step, step, step, step over, and back. Back, and over.

That's the Wop. That's the Wop with a partner you can slap hands. There you go with the Wop. Let's try it with some music.

There you go. Wop it out. Wop it out."

[Comments]

2013

1. @peridot29
"YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!  Thank you.  This is the WOP!!!!  Can't tell me nothing on the dance floor when I rocking this.  Learn young whippersnappers,,,LEARN."

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2. @jakestarr4442
"yes it is...the wop was a dance move before it was a dance"

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3. @CalladaTormenta
"Umm yes, it is. That's the wop from the 80's, not the new one with the song that you're thinking of."

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4. @TheTruthSayer90, 2021
"is the new song that you think you are referring to is by J Dash? J Dash also did a wop."

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5. @WadeEvansMusic
"aka the vine national anthem dance"

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6. @mizzkizzy09
"What the hell? This is not the wop!"

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7. @broinator2641, 2019
"It's the original wop, not the "new" wop"

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8. @alehiasavage1554, 2021
"Now it’s wap"

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9. @unworldlychaos
"It's the real one! If u want Miley's she did a different thing I bet"

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10. @funktavious
"Finally somebody showing people how to do the real wop.  All these commenters saying that this isn't the wop needs to do some research.  This is the wop.  The new dance that everybody else is doing goes by the same name but is not the original"

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2014

11. @rb7007
"This is the Old Skool Wop, seen in Bell Biv Devoe, Bobby Brown, Salt n Pepa videos.. (not that twerking cr@p they do today) Lol!

Loved this dance back in the day.

Anyone remember the reverse wop we used to do in the Raves in the UK? Really speeded up,...it was hilarious!

Great memories."

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12. @HarkeningGodsVoice
"Thank you for doing the "real" wop..not that new song that the kids today think it is.  Just like when those Harlem shake vids went viral and everyone forgot that an actual Harlem shake move had long since existed!"

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13. @54mensababe, 2015
"+HarkeningGodsVoice I feel you on tat one. The original Harlem Shake had class and style and not just a bunch of jumping around."

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2015

14. @painlessrisen9787
"this is the ORIGINAL Wop"

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15. @54mensababe
"+painlessrisen For real. I don't know what those other Wop videos are all about. smh"

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16. @NoHippieBBQCooking
"46 years old.. My generation knows this dance.. You nailed it.. Even got the hand on the hip at the end.. If people aren't older than lets say 42 they can't really understand"

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17. @majikle
"+No Hippie BBQ & Cooking exactly - these young cats think this "wop, wop, wop, wop" ish... is the real wop... they need to learn somethin' lol"

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18. @enluv2
"That is not the DC Wop from the 80s. I don't know where these people are getting their dance lessons from. What's missing is moving her hips. It was with a jelly roll, front to the back. It was a work out and it was fun. 1983 was the year so many iconic dances from back in the day came out.  Backin the day, we would do the Snake and could drop to the ground and come back up in one smooth move-. The Michael Jackson. The Smurf. The Cabbage Patch. The Wop. It was great."

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19. @54mensababe
"+enluv2 This is the way we were doing the Wop in DC in the 70's. North East side."
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Notice this commenter wrote "the 70s". This is the first time I've come across any reference to the "Wop" in the 1970s. I wonder if this is a typo and that commenter meant to write "the 80s".

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20. @scoobydoo6330
"Ah the 80's if you wasn't born or live this decade this was a dance that we use to do back then whether it was at a house parties or a club I use to it do it now go or learn how to do this dance move much memories long live the 80's"

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21. @sandramayes8679, 2023
"Since you brought up house parties, that's where I first saw this dance, was on House Party... Sydney and Sharane  was doing it, I'll never forget that, lol"

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2016

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2017

22. @rogercobbs4297
"what was name of the wop song from 80s"

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23. @macben3266
"Roger Cobbs woppit by B Fats"

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24. @ivargas220iv
"Thank you so much. Too many of today's kids do it different and I just can't with that.....thank you for keeping it old school"

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25. @PPikes
"wop is a derogatory term for Italians, I've always been leery of saying this lols! but this is dance from my childhood"

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2018

26. @shartricboyd9197
"This the REAL WOP!! '86!"

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27. @aliciaburbank9962
"I know she did this a while ago but it really brings back memories. Not sure about the negative comments but i usually see these when ppl don't know their history. Please check out Doug e Fresh's "all the way to heaven" video if you're confused. You're welcome."

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2019

28. @rachellemcadams1438
"Back in the day we called this one the NY wop because there was a different variation called the DC wop."

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29. @tatum8499, 2022
"Brings back memories from DC gogo"

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30. @xavierwilliams2228
"Didnt vanessa do this on the Cosby show intro?"

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31. @RoyalGrean, 2020
"And the sister on Coming to America"

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2020

32. @alexandernegron3128
"Wop Wop Wop Wop dont stop

Right first put yo left hand on top

WOP WOP WOP WOP 🕺"

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33. @christmasdevil6415
"I looked up wap now I'm here"

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34. 
@maren5056
"ah this is what the WAP comes from

only gen z will know what I mean"

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35. @gracehuynh_
"Gen Z be like "I thought it said wap not wop"

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36. 
@Dozzzzy
"I didn’t come here looking for the WAP dance..."

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37. @MarisaXO
"Anyone else look this up due to watching rainbow do the wop on mixed-ish? 😅"

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38. @Charmedsas1
"1st time I saw the wop was on a different world when I watched it a few years ago.

I'm not from the us😄

Who's here from 2020?"

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39. @ninamaechen3142
"I said WAP not WOP 😂🤦🏻‍♀️"

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40. @ryanilagan3
"I came for the WAP 😏. This ain't it tho"

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2021

41. @curtiswhiteheadjr1322
"I was there in ‘86 when B Fats dropped this joint with his dance. Thank you, Queen for respectfully representing. ✊🏽💯"

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42. @MrBones2020
"OG wap right there"

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43. @chucku.1745
"These kids don't know hip-hop culture. History repeats itself."

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2022

44. @PatinaEdochie
"Righttt that oldschool 80s/90s WOP I knew in childhood 🔥"

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45. @troystewart2909
"80' teens know the real Wop and Harlem Shake. Memories at the skating rink .... (sigh)"

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2023

46. @geterdone2023
"She ain't doing it hard enough you suppose to break yo neck."

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47. 
@angelam.haigler9695
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Best tutorial I've seen of this. Great job! I was there when it originated, lol."

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48. @colt45northtexas
"Are the Beastie boys known to do this?"

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49. @dbspaceoditty
"im literally here because i just listend to intergalactic like

 "he didnt just say what i think he did, no way, wanna watch beastie boys do the wop just like i did" "

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50. @merledixon6674
"This always reminds me of intergalactic by beastie boys! "I've been known to do The Wop!" "

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51. @frederickcohen955
"Yeah you Wopping,  but slow down Ma you gotta finesse it.  Real B Boys/Girls had a smooth cool flow..   They actually had a record called" Woppit" by B Fats  when that dance hit the scene..  Original B Boy"

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DISCUSSION THREAD #2:  "Tony - The Wop, The Cabbage Patch & The Prep"



published by DJ Tony Vito, Apr 20, 2007

Yes, that's me, kickin' old school moves .... 80's lives on!  The third step in this video is a dance we used to call the Raindance at Bentleys on 40th and Madison;  I've since found out that it is better known as The Prep.

[Comments]

2007

1. @avp0713
"the video is a split-second ahead of the audio... but you get the idea..."

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2008

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2009

2. @Tallcocoa
"That was so smooth! You took me back on the dance floor 1990 kick'n it with you!"

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2010

3. @kenswift12345
"Love the prep moves. Brings me back to my youth!"

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4. @SMC799
"Honey, I'm 40 and grew up in NY and we did those dances and they were FUN! You did your thang! Loved it!"

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5. @mookeychase0907
"LOL,Dats right Tone bring dat 80s ish back homeboy!"

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6. @chakalh2
"what the name this song ?? please"

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7. @avp0713
"@chakalh2  - POISON by Bell, Biv, Devoe"

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8. @peridot29
"Great....Rep the OLD School... or should I say, "OLD SKOOL!!!"

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9.@missVeemack
"@avp0713 oh your not white? Well on this video you look white. Deosnt matter though your old school moves are on point."

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10. @avp0713
"@kingsphatgirl  - white?  ok, well I guess if Obama's white, then i'm white too, thanks though."

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11. @avp0713, 2012
"@gigga143 - People tend to forget that black people come in sooooo many shades.... my little brother doesn't even had a dark or olive skin tone at all.. my sister is white color with light blue eyes.... do we actually need to wear a sign that says "WE ARE BLACK TOO" "..  
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The comment that @avp0713 responded to is no longer part of this discussion thread (as of Dec. 6, 2023 if not before then.)

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2011

12. @Afrodesiahhh
"Hey...not many can bust out this little known move. You can Prep almost as good as me!  Down South we added a sweet little move to it though...maybe I'll post a vid doin' the do with the complete choreography ; )   Your wop...priceless."

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13. @mothball50
"But can you do the smurf, robocop, and gallop? I was diggin the wop btw. It was big in Cali."

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14. @phinchy007
"THAT WAS FUNNY......GREAT JOB. THE PREP WAS MY DANCE......"

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2012

15. @avp0713
"@rinny02852 - Yes I've seen the "new" whop and I can bust that out too.  I put up all these old school dances a few years ago, but I do all the new dances too...  Sometimes when I DJ I have to get out there and break it down for the audience.... lol.

We had so much fun doing the wop;  there were a few different ways to do it."

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16. @brooklynbaby2100
"I remember when my older brother taught me how to do this when I was still in Brooklyn I hate the new wop and Im only 16

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2013

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2014

17. @HarkeningGodsVoice
"Thank you for doing the "real" wop..not that new song that the kids today think it is.  Just like when those Harlem shake vids went viral and everyone forgot that an actual Harlem shake move had long since existed!"

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18. @royaldigitalmedia
"Where's the wop?"

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19, @avp0713
":33 to :55 but that is the '80s WOP.  They came out with THE WOP again in like 2008, but it's a sequence of steps.  I can do that one also,  but this vid is about '80s throwback dance moves."

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2015

20. @NoHippieBBQCooking
"46 years old.. My generation knows this dance.. You nailed it.. Even got the hand on the hip at the end.. If people aren't older than lets say 42 they can't really understand"

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2016

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2017

 21. @creativequeen8371
"Thank you, Tony! This PROPER instruction on how to do the wop and those other brilliant old skool moves I try and buss (ailments allowing lol) in my house or when out with my equally old skool friends, just for the sake of old times. Not seen but one video that comes close to this. I love the wop move where you make a fist and throw you hand up, really slow, behind your head and bring it back down through the air slowly, but with force, eyes shut - to really show  you are feeling the music. Now THAT'S old skool. Love it!"

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22. @ivargas220iv
"Thank you so much. Too many of today's kids do it different and I just can't with that.....thank you for keeping it old school"

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23.  @ofudgems
"Ayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy that's what I'm talkin' 'bout right there! Yeah, those were the days man! Respect!" 

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2018

24. @zippieslugdelafluor9038
"Man...I could wop with the best of them back in the day. I still dig that one out when I dance. None of that twerking for me. Lol"

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2019

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2020

25. @leorionj
"Finally, the only video I found of the cabbage patch being done CORRECTLY! Get it, Tony!"

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Monday, December 4, 2023

Six YouTube Videos That Feature J. Dash's Hip Hop Dance Record "WOP" (from 2007 to 2023)



J. Dash, September 7, 2008

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest Revision - December 5, 2023

This pancocojams post presents information about J Dash's "WOP" record and showcases six YouTube videos that feature that record.

The Addendum to this post presents my theory about the origin of the "WOP" dance name.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to J Dash for this record and thanks to all those who are featured in these showcase videos. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos.
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This is part of an ongoing pancocojams series on African American dances with the name "Wop". Click the tag below for other pancocojams posts in this series

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EXCERPT ABOUT THIS RECORD

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wop_(song)
" "Wop" (stylized in all caps) is a song by J. Dash featuring pop rapper Flo Rida. First recorded in 2007, it was released in 2011 to serve as the lead single for J. Dash's album Tabloid Truth, released in 2012.

Upon the release of the album, "Wop" became a minor hit on Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart, but received renewed attention in March 2013 after pop singer Miley Cyrus posted a viral video of herself twerking to the song. The popularity of the video, along with parodies and responses made by fans, influenced its re-emergence on the Billboard Hot 100 in March 2013, peaking at #51 on the Hot 100, and #14 on the Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs chart.

Background

"Wop" was the name given to a hip hop dance that J. Dash and his friends had done to other songs at nightclubs. The song itself was created after he felt that they were "missing the track to go with our steps".[1][2]

Release and history

"Wop" was initially posted on J. Dash's YouTube channel in 2007; however, as the song began to go viral through user-posted videos of people performing its associated dance routine, he pulled the song and began work on a revised version to be released as a single,[3] followed by an official music video featuring fellow rapper Flo Rida in January 2011. The song would chart near the bottom of Billboard's Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs, and by March 2012, at least 437,000 digital downloads of the song had been sold, and the video had reached 5.7 million views.[4][5]

The song would re-emerge to mainstream exposure on March 20, 2013, when Miley Cyrus posted a video on Facebook which featured her twerking to "Wop" while wearing a unicorn onesie. While Cyrus had previously shared her fondness for the song with J. Dash and suggested that they make a video together, these plans never came to fruition. J. Dash was initially unaware of the video's creation, but would learn of the video from his personal friends and Cyrus herself while he was sick in bed with a stomach virus. He declared the video to be the moment that twerking became a mainstream phenomenon, and jokingly suggested that he and Cyrus should get matching unicorn tattoos.[1][5]"...
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That Wikipedia page doesn't mention the renewed interest in J. Dash's "WOP" record in 2022 and 2023 thanks to a clip of its audio being used in numerous TikTok and YouTube short dance challenges, dance trend videos. 

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - WOP (Official iTunes Version) by J. Dash ft. Flo Rida - iTunes



Stereofame, Jan 7, 2011

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 - Miley Cyrus Twerk to "WOP" by J. Dash - OFFICIAL Compilation #MCTWERKTEAM



Stereofame, March 24, 2013

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #4 - Wop Vines -- Best Compilation of Wop Dance Videos from Vine

 

The Technical Trading Lab, Oct 8, 2013

Just over three minutes of the best wop dance videos from the pp vine

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #5 - Gabi May 18, 2022  #WopWopWop #Dancing #Dance


Gabi May 18, 2022  #WopWopWop #Dancing #Dance


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SHOWCASE VIDEO #6-
Wop J. Dash TIKTOK DANCE



Eby Channel, September 11, 2023

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ADDENDUM - WHERE DID THE HIP HOP DANCE NAME "WOP" COME FROM? 
by Azizi Powell, written 2014, updated in 2023 
The term "Wop" in the 1980s/1990s dance "The Wop", the song 2007 titled "The Wop" and the 2012 song titled "Da Wop" probably all come from the syllable "wop" that is used to as a referent for and lyrics in the ub-section of Rhythm & Blues music called "Doo-Wop". In that music the syllables "doo wop" are used to imitate the sound of bass instrumental music.

From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doo-wop
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Doo-wop (also spelled doowop and doo wop) is a genre of rhythm and blues music that originated in African-American communities during the 1940s,[2] mainly in the large cities of the United States, including New York, Philadelphia, Pittsburgh, Chicago, Baltimore, Newark, Detroit, Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles.[3][4] It features vocal group harmony that carries an engaging melodic line to a simple beat with little or no instrumentation. Lyrics are simple, usually about love, sung by a lead vocal over background vocals, and often featuring, in the bridge, a melodramatically heartfelt recitative addressed to the beloved. Harmonic singing of nonsense syllables (such as "doo-wop") is a common characteristic of these songs.[5] Gaining popularity in the 1950s, doo-wop was "artistically and commercially viable" until the early 1960s, but continued to influence performers in other genres."...
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Little Richard's now classic song "Tutti Frutti" is among other 1950s Rhythm & Blues and Rock & Roll songs that include the syllable "wop". The refrain to that song is "Wop bop a loo bop a lop bam boom!" although in earlier versions of that song Little Richard sang it as "Wop bop a loo bop a lop bam bam!" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3kM1khne_sg

The word "wop" that refers to music and dances may have been coined simply because of its percussive sound, and the images it might evoke of forcefully gyrating your hips and butt from side to side.
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The syllable "wop" as a referent to a form of R&B music and as titles to Hip-Hop dances or songs has nothing whatsoever to do with the pejorative referent "Wop".

My guess is that the name "Wap" which some people use for the "Wop" dance in a small number of TikTok dance online dance challenges (since around 2022 ?) is an attempt to substitute a more socially correct name for that dance. However, it appears to me that most people still refer to this dance as "Wop", probably because that is the title of J Dash's record that is still being used for those dance challenges.

Here's some information about that pejorative referent "Wop" from
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/wop
"wop

noun
often capitalized

offensive

—used as an insulting and contemptuous term for a person of Italian birth or descent

Word History

Etymology

Italian dialect guappo swaggerer, tough, from Spanish guapo, probably from Middle French dialect vape, wape weak, insipid, from Latin vappa wine gone flat"

First Known Use

1906, in the meaning defined above

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