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Friday, January 11, 2019

Arthur "Arturo" Pfister's Clean, Topical Version Of "Shine And The Titanic"

Edited by Azizi Powell

This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series that presents "clean" versions of the African American Toast (Narrative) entitled "Shine And The Great Titanic".

Part II presents a third example of "Shine And The Titanic" and includes my comment about how some topical references in that particular example of the Shine narrative dates that version.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/01/two-clean-versions-of-african-american.html for Part I of this series. Part I presents information about African American toasts along with two relatively clean versions of "Shine and the Titanic".

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Arthur "Arturo" Pfister, New Orleans, Louisiana for his version of "Shine And The Great Titanic." Thanks also to www.http://www.louisianavoices.org for publishing this version online.
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DISCLAIMER: This pancocojams series isn't meant to imply that this version of "Shine And The Great Titanic" are the most authentic or the most well known versions of this toast. Read my comment in this post's discussion thread below.

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VERSION OF "SHINE AND THE TITANIC" BY
From http://www.louisianavoices.org/Unit5/edu_ss149_shine_titanic.html
"Shine and the Titanic," #149 Swapping Stories
Arthur "Arturo" Pfister, New Orleans, Louisiana

I'm a weaver of the word, not a maker of rhyme
But I'm going to tell you the story about my man, my main man Shine.
It was a helluva day in the merry month of May,
Shine was the stoker on the Titanic that day
When a big iceberg come a floatin' their way.

Shine said, "Cap'n Charley, Cap'n Charley, there's a big iceberg floatin' our way."
Cap'n said, "Shine, Shine, don't you be no clown,
I got ninety-nine pumps to pump the water down.
I got pumps made of pipes and chumps to pump.
I got a trillion dollar load I ain't going to dump."

Shine said, "Cap'n Charley, Cap'n Charley, if you look now,
There's a whole lot of ice comin' 'cross the bow.
I ain't never read a book, ain't never been to school,
But Louzeeanna Annie ain't never raised a fool."
Shine said that to himself.

Cap'n Charley said, "Shine, Shine don't you know my might?
Anything I say and do is right.
You work for Cap'n Charley when the sun comes up
You brings my favorite slippers and my coffee cup.
You work for Cap'n Charley, stokin' the coal.
You work for Cap'n Charley and I owns your soul.
You might be a Christian and pray to the Lord,
But on the Titanic, I outranks God."

[Pfister makes a sound to indicate that an iceberg hits the ship]
Then there was a loud, crashin,' smashin' sound
God pulled rank.
Shine said, "You might be the Cap'n on the land and the sea,
You might run the engines, you might turn the key.
You might be Cap'n Charley, well all that's hip,
But I'm gettin' off of Cap'n's stinkin,' sinkin' ship."

Jumped his black butt into the sea, he did.
He said, "I'm going to tell you one thing, and I don't mean maybe,
But I was long and grown when Father Time was a baby.
I done kilt a whole lot of men's way better than you.
Done kilt a thousand V.C. in Dien Bien Phu.
You can be Tarzan and Rambo and Jungle Jim,
But that's one iceberg that sure ain't slim.
Forked is your tongue, I done heard all the lies,
I'm going to ride with the water and make my own enterprise."

Just about then a beggar came on board cryin,'
"Save me, save me, Shine, in the name of the Lord.
I gots money and dollars I can't even spend,
I owns a whole lot of people, got stock in the pen,
I give you fine black women and white ones, too,
because I gots more money than the U.S. Mint do.
I give you big pretty houses and Cadillac cars,
Give you fifty hotels and ninety-nine bars.
I runs all the drugs from Harlem to Watts,
I takes food from the mouths of the tiniest tots,
I buys all the missiles and guns for the planes,
I own ninety-nine ships and three hundred trains.
I give you all the money that a black boy needs,
Give you ten tons of coke and twenty tons of weed."

Shine thought for a while. . . .
"I'm the runner of the world,
The master in the Lord,
I'm going to please her with my Visa and my Bank Americard.
I'll give you money and power and fortune and fame,
Every fine black girl in the world going to know your name."
Shine said, "You can giggle from the weed, you can laugh from the coke,
But get your bootie in the water and cut your stroke.
You can have all your money, your friends and your foes,
You can finance your wars and your G.I. Joes.
You gots more money than a human had oughta,
So get your butt out here in this freezin' cold water.
You rich and you greedy, ain't never been broke,
So get your butt in the water and cut your stroke.
You can call on the mounties and the C.I.A.,
But they going to get their dry behinds wet today.
Sorry, Mr. Banker, I don't need your pain,
because I'll be sittin' with my baby just a listenin' to the Train.
I'm going to swim to New Orleans for some panne meat,
Going to do the Mississippi Mambo down on Claiborne Street.
Going to wear orange and gold and purple and green,
Go runnin' with the Injuns, eat all the red beans.
You might like Chaka, you might like Rufus,
Even Leon Spinks know you lying through your toofus."
Just then the banker's daughter floated by Shine.
She said, "Come over here, Shine.
Save some o'little ole mine.
I got a body like a ballard and cheeks like Gladys,
Butt like Bertha and hair like Alice.
I got legs like Tina and a chest like Dolly,
I can almost sing colored and lilac ollie."

He said, "I like my women's lips red and my crawfish burled
I like the mamas with the boom booms and their hair all curled.
I like hot filé gumbo and devilish eggs.
I like them Uptown girls with they big fine legs,
I like Downtown womens with they night dark eyes,
I like Backatown womens with they big brown thighs.
I done lived on the land and on ships in the sea,
And the ladies on land is the ladies for me."

And Shine swam on. . . .
Shine swam down past the Florida Keys,
He was trembling in the arms and weak in the knees.
While Shine was a'swimming, the ocean grew dark,
And he bumped right into a great, big shark,
A biiigggg black one.
The shark he was purty, with pearly white teeth,
He said, "Come over here, Shine, I'm a make you my meat.
You sure look good, swimming in my sea,
Gon' make a right mighty fine meal for me.
I ain't got no chilrens and I don't have a wife,
But one thing I got is your no-swimming life.
I'm a take you and eat you and swallow you whole,
Make you cuss the very day your mammy borned your soul.
I'm big and I'm strong, I takes what I like,
I done robbed Robin Givens and beat up Mike.
Yeah, Mr. Shine, Mack the Knife is sweet,
I can outswim a wave, and I like dark meat.
I rules all the waters, I'm King o'the sea,
Ain't ne'er whale or minnow can get past me.
All the fishes in the water gets outta my way,
From the Rock o'Gibraltar to Barataria Bay.
Ran into a whale, he thought he was slick,
Lil' minnow told me his name was Moby-Dick.
When I tore my teeth into that little ole whale,
I had to hang out a sign saying [high-pitched voice], `Blubber for sale.'
I done wrote with Alex Haley and dunked with Kareem,
Hung with I. W. Harper, got drunk with Jim Beam.
I done ate up the bones o'Gunga Din,
Got Cap'n Bligh's blood on my chinnie, chin, chin.
I done ate up some pirate when they walked the plank,
I done lied with Nixon and sang with Frank.
I done ate German subs and planes full o'people,
Ate the rock from the Hudson and the bell from the steeple.
I done ate up the quail that was hiding in the bush,
Took your grandma to the mountain and gave her a push.
I'm a meeaann shark.
I done ate up Sally, I done ate up Sue,
Start choking, quit stroking, I'm a eat up you!"

Shine said, "Mr. Shark, I'm a tell you, and it ain't no lie,
I taught the Signifying Monkey how to signify.
I done taught Hank Aaron how to hit the ball,
I showed Barbie's mammy how to make a doll.
That ain't really nothing, cause I tell you what,
I done showed Big Bertha how to do the butt.
You might rule the water from London to Selma,
But you ain't no badder than J. J. and Thelma.
My daddy's a poet, my mama's a singer,
I got a uncle out West who's a baaadd gunslinger,
Kilt three white men and lived, he did.
If you wants you some bones and some flesh to tear,
There's a cap'n and a banker and his daughter out there.
If you might chance to think you can catch this man,
You might as well be a tuna in a tunafish can.
Who you out here call yo'self trying to warn?
All you sayin' ain't but talk behind the barn.
You mighta ate a lotta pirates when they walked the plank,
But I likes shark meat, don't you see my shank?
I like red, silky shirts, I done paid my dues,
I like black Cadillacs and shark-skin shoes.
You might rule the ocean, reign over the sea,
But you gotta grow new fins to outswim me.

And Shine swam on.
The Titanic sank and a lotta folk died,
Grandmamas was weepin' and little babies cried.
When the news hit shore about the Titanic that night,
Shine was in New Orleans, high as a kite!
He played him some music with Satcha-moe,
Went to a cemetery party with Marie Laveau.
He was the slickest and the quickest,
He was fine like wine.
He was wicked in the picket, my man, Shine.

They thought Shine was dead, somewhere down afar,
But Shine was in New Orleans,
Hankin' and a pankin'
Glidin' and a slidin'
Honkin' and a tonkin'
Dreamin' and a schemin'
Smackin' and a mackin'
Smokin' and a jokin'
Bammin' and a jammin'
Jumpin' and a bumpin'
Winkin' and a blinkin'
Coolin' and a schoolin'
Juicin' and a goosin'
Hangin' and a bangin'
Skinnin' and a grinnin'
Rappin' and a yappin'
Buggin' and a huggin'
Gigglin' and a wigglin'
Hobbin' and a knobbin'
Peepin' and a creepin'
Maxin' and relaxin'
Funkin' and a junkin'
Chillin' and a illin'
In the neighborhood bar.
Yeah, yeah, in the neighborhood bar--Shine.

Notes to the Teacher: African-American toasts, discussed briefly in the introduction to this book, are most often performed in all-male, adult settings. Arthur Pfister changed his normal version of "Shine and the Titanic" to make it more suitable for a live festival audience. The text printed here is the version that Pfister himself wrote down for that live performance. F696. Marvelous swimmer.

Though focused on a major historical event, this rhymed narrative stretches the notion of historical legend almost past its limits. After the sinking of the Titanic in 1912, legends sprang up concerning the celebrated African-American boxing champion Jack Johnson: the story went that Johnson had not been allowed to board the segregated ocean liner and thus his life was spared. The relationship of Johnson to Shine, the hero of this toast, is unclear, but most toast singers now regard Shine as an imaginary and not a historical figure. Roger Abrahams (1970, 120-29) documents verses related to this toast as early as 1918 and presents evidence that related rhymes centered around other African-American heroes were in circulation before the sinking of the Titanic. Saxon et al. (1945, 373-74) present parts of a similar toast collected in New Orleans in the 1930s."

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DATING THIS VERSION OF "SHINE AND THE TITANIC"
Here's a comment that I wrote in 2006 on a Mudcat folk music forum discussion thread about "Shine".
From https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=97381
Subject: RE: Folklore: Who's this 'Shine' guy?
From: Azizi
Date: 22 Dec 06 - 06:44 PM

[...]

I'm curious when Pfister first composed this version of Shine & The Titanic. Certain cultural references in Pfister's version of can be used to date it. For example, this version couldn't have been composed before Nixon's Impeachment in 1974. Also, this version of Shine & The Titanic couldn't have been composed before the television program 1974-1979 Good Times [the line that references JJ and Thelma, characters on that show]. And this version couldn't have been composed before author Alex Haley popularity [probably as a result of the 1977 tv series Roots].

If I had to guess, just from these three references, I'd date this version as being from the late 1970s.

Pfister's version of Shine & The Titanic has numerous historical and contemporary mainstream American and "in group" references. Among the "in group" {African American references but specifically Louisiana African American} are "I'll be sittin' with my baby just a listenin' to the Train" [Train=Jazz great John Coltrane ] and "You can be Tarzan and Rambo and Jungle Jim/But that's one iceberg that sure ain't slim [a referent to Iceberg Slim]. The lines "Going to wear orange and gold and purple and green/Go runnin' with the Injuns] refer to New Orlean Mardi Gras colors and the Mardi Gras Indians. The line "You might like Chaka, you might like Rufus" refers to the R&B vocalist Chaka Khan and Rufus . And the line "Even Leon Spinks know you lying through your toofus." is refers to heavy weight boxing champion Leon Spinks who wasn't known for his intelligence.

And there's more references than this in Arthur Pfister's version of Shine & The Titanic."

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Two Clean Versions Of The African American Toast "Shine And The Great Titanic"

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision- November 15, 2025

This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series that presents "clean" versions of the African American Toast (Narrative) entitled "Shine And The Great Titanic".

Part I presents information about African American toasts along with two relatively clean versions of "Shine and the Titanic".

Click
https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/01/arthur-arturo-pfisters-clean-topical.html for Part II of this pancocojams series. That post presents a third example of "Shine And The Titanic" and includes my comment about how some topical references in that particular example of the Shine narrative dates that version.

The content of this post is presented for historical, socio-cultural and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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DISCLAIMER:
This pancocojams series isn't meant to imply that these showcased versions of "Shine And The Great Titanic" are the most authentic or the most well known versions of this toast.

Read my comment in this post's discussion section below.

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INFORMATION ABOUT TOASTS AND EXAMPLES OF "SHINE AND THE GREAT TITANIC" TOASTS

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From https://www.oxfordreference.com/display/10.1093/oi/authority.20110803100502103;jsessionid=5FB613A9C769BA24C9EDEA12E297B99F

Shine

QUICK REFERENCE

Probably the most well-known twentieth-century trickster, Shine is an epic figure in African American folklore. His name could refer to the generic nickname given to black men who shined shoes or it could indicate that his skin was dark enough to literally “shine.” In the toasts that celebrate him, the wiry-built Shine begins as the lowest-ranked employee on the ill-fated Titanic, the infamous luxury ship that hit an iceberg during its maiden voyage in 1912. Assigned to stoke coal in the ship's bowels, the fictional hero notices the encroaching water and repeatedly warns the captain. Unwilling to heed the lowly black man's advice, the captain waits too long before ordering the passengers and crew to evacuate. Shine's status has risen and many of the passengers seek his assistance in their quest for safety. Concerned only with his own well-being, Shine answers the pleas for help with his bawdy rhymes and emerges, in most versions of the toast, as the ship's only survivor. One version concludes, “When the word got to Washing'times the great Titanic was sunk / Shine was on Broadway, one-third drunk.”

Tricksters such as Shine or even Brer Rabbit appeal to African Americans for several reasons. Ostensibly, they are the least powerful characters in a given situation. But they use their cunning to undermine their larger, more powerful opponents. Their social world reflects that of many African Americans, accustomed to making their way in spite of handicaps. Also their verbal dexterity has considerable appeal.

John Roberts, From Trickster to Badman: The Black Folk Hero in Slavery and Freedom, 1989."

—-Patricia A. Turner

From:  Shine  in  The Concise Oxford Companion to African American Literature »


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From http://www.louisianafolklife.org/LT/Articles_Essays/creole_art_toast_tradition.html
..." "Toasts" are performed narratives of often urban but always heroic events. For many Blacks, both performers and audience, hearing about or performing the winning ways of the central character becomes as creative a release as Black music. Toasting is today's continuance of an oral tradition, but many contemporary toasters read their complicated and elaborate versions from a text. As with any oral tradition, many versions of the same toast exists...

[...]

A toast well known in any large American city with a significant Black population is "Shine and the Titanic." This toast relates the heroic efforts of an old Black stoker to warn of the ship's impending disaster, but when ignored, he strives to save himself. The Titanic sank on its maiden voyage in 1912, during the Jim Crow days when Blacks were not allowed as passengers.

Toasts are typical of other Black traditions, such as quilting and gospel, in that improvisation is highly valued. Therefore, one will find many different versions of any toast; many use profane street speech. This version of "Shine and the Titanic" heard by the author in Oakland, California, has been edited for publication.

In toasts, historical accuracy is not considered important. For instance, although in reality the Titanic sank in April, in the ballad it sinks in May. Audiences expect, accept, and appreciate the toaster's improvisations.

As is common in toasts, a narrator describes Shines's successful exploits, while Shine directly addresses the captain, his daughter, and the whale. Shine, the black stoker and hero of the toast, repeatedly warns the white captain of the impending disaster and humbly gives updates on the sinking ship. Even though Shine is ignored, hustled, and chased by a whale, he remains confident of his ability and determination. It is Shine alone who can save the day.

Shine and the Titanic

It was a hell of a day in the merry month of May
When the great Titanic was sailing away.
The captain and his daughter was there, too,
And old black Shine, he didn't need no crew.
Shine was downstairs eating his peas
When the . . .water come up to his knees.
He said, "Captain, Captain, I was downstairs eating my peas When the water come up to my knees."
He said, "Shine, Shine, set your black self down.
I got ninety-nine pumps to pump the water down."
Shine went downstairs looking through space.
That's when the water came up to his waist.
He said, "Captain, Captain, I was downstairs looking through space,
That's when the water came up to my waist."
He said, "Shine, Shine, set your black self down.
I got ninety-nine pumps to pump the water down."
Shine went downstairs, he ate a piece of bread.
That's when the water came above his head.
He said, "Captain, Captain, I was downstairs eating my bread
And the . . .water came above my head."
He said, "Shine, Shine, set your black self down.
I got ninety-nine pumps to pump the water down."
Shine took off his shirt, took a dive. He took one stroke
And the water pushed him like it pushed a motorboat.
I'll give you more money than any black man see."
Shine said, "Money is good on land or sea.
Take off your shirt and swim like me."
And Shine Swam on.
Shine met up with the whale.
The whale said, "Shine, Shine, you swim mighty fine,
But if you miss one stroke, your black self is mine."
Shine said, "You may be the king of the ocean, king of the sea,
But you got to be a swimming son-of-a-gun to out-swim me."
And Shine swam on.
Now when the news got to the port, the great Titanic has sunk,
You won't believe this, but old Shine was on the corner damn near drunk."...
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This article also includes a version of "The Signifying Monkey", an even more popular African American toast.

Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/06/oscar-brown-jr-signifyin-monkey-video.html for the 2012 pancocojams post entitled "Oscar Brown Jr - "The Signifyin Monkey" (Video, Lyrics, Comments).

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From https://mudcat.org/thread.cfm?threadid=97381
Subject: RE: Folklore: Who's this 'Shine' guy?
From: Azizi
Date: 21 Dec 06 - 06:26 PM

Geneva Smitherman includes a version of Shine & The Titanic in her "Talkin and Testifyin" book [Geneva Smitherman, "Talkin That Talk", Language, Culture, and Education in African America {Routledge, London, Canada & USA, 2000; 225-227].

This version begins very much like the one that Mona Lisa Saloy featured in her article on "The African American Toast Tradition"
[see my 20 Dec 06 - 11:45 PM post on this thread]

However, there are some differences. Check it out:

"Shine went back on down in the hole. He kept on shoveling coal. He started to eat a piece of bread. That's when the water rose above the Brother's head.

Shine split back up on deck. "Captain, Captain, you speak well, and your words they sound true. But this time, Captain, your words they won't do. This here ship is sinking! Little fishes, big fishes, whales and sharks too, gert out of my way, 'cause I'm coming through!"

Shine yanked off his clothes in a flash. He jumped on in the water and started to splash.

The captain saw the water rise out of the hole and he start thinking, "That boy is right. This here ship is sinking", He call out to Shine. "Shine, Mr. Shine, please save me! I'll make you master of the sea!".

Shine say "Master on land, master on the sea. If you wnt to love, Captain, you better jump in here and swim like me".

The captain's wife ran out on deck in her nightgown, with her fine, fine self. She call out to Shine, "Shine, Shine, please save poor me! I'll give you more loving than you ever did see."

Shine say, "Loving ain't nothing but hugging and squeezing. Sometime it be tiring. Sometime it be pleasing. I can swim, but I ain't no fish. I like loving, but not like this."

An old fat banker come up on the deck carrying his money bags. He called out to Shine, "Shine, Shine, please save me! I'll make you richer than any man could be".

Shine say, "Money's good on land, but it's weight in the sea. If you want to live, fatty, you better jump in her[e] and swim like me."

Shine took one stroke and shot on off through the water like a motorboat. He met up with this here shark. The shark say, "Shine, Shine, you swim so fine. But if you miss one stroke, your butt is mine."

Shine say, "I swims the ocean. I swims the sea. There just ain't no shark that can outswim me." Shine outswimmed the shark.

After a while, Shine met up with this here whale. The whale say,
"I'm the king of the ocean. I'm the king of the sea."
Shine say, "You may be the king of the ocean. And you just may be the king of the sea, but you got to be about a swimming sucker to outswim me." Shine outswimmed the whale.

Now dig this. When the news reach land that the "Great Titanic" had sunk, Shine was down on the corner, half-way drunk."

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