Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series about Lafayette Afro Rock Band, a highly influential French 1970s Funk Rock group that was first formed in the United States.
Part I presents information about the American/French funk music band Lafayette Afro Rock Band that was formed in the United States in 1970. This post also showcases a YouTube sound file of that band's 1973 tune entitled "Hihache".
Selected comments from that YouTube sound file's discussion thread are included in this post. Most of these comments focus on the use of samples from the record "Hihache" can be found in songs from multiple United States music genres.
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/04/what-is-afro-hairstyle-and-youtube.html for Part II of this series. Part II presents my definition of an afro and my notes about the significance of afro hairstyles for African Americans in the 1960s and 1970s.
This post also documents selected comments from a YouTube discussion thread for Lafayette Afro Rock Band's record "Hihache". These comments focus on the album cover- a photograph of a young Black woman with a big afro (hair style)- which was mistakenly used for that YouTube sound file. That photograph was actually used as the cover for Lafayette Afro Rock Band's album entitled "Malik".
Brief explanatory notes are given after some of these comments.
The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Lafayette Afro Rock Band for their musical legacy. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this YouTube sound file.
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INFORMATION ABOUT LAFAYETTE AFRO ROCK BAND
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lafayette_Afro_Rock_Band
"Lafayette Afro Rock Band was an American funk rock band formed in Roosevelt, Long Island, New York in 1970 and soon relocating to France. Though little-known in their native United States during their recording period, they have since become celebrated as one of the standout funk bands of the 1970s and are particularly noted for their use of break beats.[1] The band also recorded under the names Ice, Crispy & Co. (Krispie & Co. in Europe), Captain Dax, and others.[2]
Upon their relocation to Paris, the local music scene influenced the group's work, inspiring the addition of rock and African elements. They recorded their debut album as Ice and then adopted the name Lafayette Afro Rock Band. The band's next two albums, Soul Makossa and Malik, included the songs "Hihache" and "Darkest Light" which would be sampled in numerous culturally significant hip-hop compositions. They broke up in 1978.
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Upon deciding that the funk scene in the United States was too saturated for them to viably compete, they relocated to France in 1971. When Boyd split from the group and returned to America, the remaining band members briefly renamed themselves Soul Congress and then settled on the name Ice.[5]
After regular performances in Paris's Barbès district, an area made up primarily of North African immigrants, they caught the eye of producer Pierre Jaubert and became the house session band at his Parisound studio.[4] The influence of their surroundings led Ice to increasingly weave African rhyme schemes, textures, and beat tendencies into their established funk style. The album Each Man Makes His Own Destiny was released in 1972 under the name Ice, after which the band changed their name to Lafayette Afro Rock Band to reflect their expanded influences.[3]
Now under the name Lafayette Afro Rock Band, they released the album Soul Makossa (also known as Movin' and Groovin' in the United States) in 1973.[3] The title track was a cover version of Manu Dibango's international hit, "Soul Makossa". Though it failed to chart, the album made an impact years later. Its standout song, the oft-covered "Hihache", has been widely sampled by artists as diverse as Janet Jackson, Biz Markie, LL Cool J, De La Soul, Digital Underground, Naughty by Nature, and Wu-Tang Clan.[5]"...
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SHOWCASE YOUTUBE EXAMPLE (sound file)
Lafayette Afro Rock Band - Hihache
dravmasta, Published on Sep 26, 2010
Lafayette Afro Rock Band was a French funk rock band formed in Roosevelt, Long Island, New York in 1970. Though almost unknown in their native United States, they are now universally celebrated as one of the standout funk bands of the 1970s and admired for their use of break beats. Wiki.
Song: Hihache
Artist: Lafayette Afro Rock Band
Album: Soul Makossa
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Several commenters noted that the album cover that is used for this YouTube sound file is actually the cover for that band's album entitled "Malik". Click https://www.blogger.com/blogger.g?blogID=5893219718076521675#overview for a photograph of the cover for the band's "Soul Makossa" album.
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Statistics as of April 15, 2019 9:43 AM EST
total views - 13,929,895
total likes - 103,000
total dislikes - 1,900
total number of comments - 2,099
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD OF THIS YOUTUBE SOUND FILE
This compilation isn't all of the comments from that discussion thread about the song "Hihache". I didn't read all of the comments in that discussion thread, but I did read A LOT of them.
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.
1. BasementDwellaz, 2013
"every funk head and hip hop junky should know of this group.............. break beats are legendary"
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2. Glenn Havens, 2013
"Sad news. Arthur Young, one of the founding members of Lafayette Afro Rock Band passed away on December 24, 2013 in Brooklyn, NY after a long battle with cancer. He was 66 years old.
Although the band never made it big here, they were popular in France (even though all the members were from the U.S.). Their music has been sampled over 100 times by various artists including Public Enemy, Britney Spears, De La Soul, Wu-Tang Clan, LL Cool J and Jay Z."
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3. buru44, 2013
"RIP, thank you for updating us friend."
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4. Thomas Johnson Jr, 2014
"One Of The Most Sampled Brake Beats In Hip Hop, Back In The Days Of A1 Record Store, They Would Have This Album On Their Wall For $80 Or More!!!!!!
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5. Michael Burke, 2014
"I have no idea what a break beat is. Anyone?"
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6. oskamadison, 2014
"OK...Mike, a break beat is a section of a song that is usually just a drum beat with little to no instrumentation over it. The first 20 or so seconds of this song is an example. A breakbeat is usually found at the beginning of a song but can be in the middle. DJ's used to backspin 2 copies of records with breakbeats to extend the beat, during which time the B-Boys would dance, hence the term "breakdancing". MC's would usually rap over the breakbeats as well. Break beats can be found in any genre of music but is most commonly found in soul, funk, jazz or rock records. This is the truest definition of the term. I hope that helps."
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7. Michael Burke, 2014
"That's it? I expected some technical term. I can dig it."
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8. William P Scott, 2015
"Often sampled but never duplicated.....Lafayette Afro Rock Band from my hometown of Roosevelt Long Island NY"
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9. Jorge Luis S, 2016
"Hi William! Could you give me names of other bands of that era that made this style of music (HIHACHE) , instrumental??
I Listen Hihache, Malik and Azeta almost every day in Spotify, here in Buenos Aires, Argentina! and I search and search but dont find anything like this! :)"
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10. The House of Kush, 2016
"He means what he said: 'sampled', because the opening drumbeat to this track has been by hundreds of artists and used as the basis for new songs."
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11. topiacos, 2018
"@Jorge Luis S maybe you will find with artists of "afro beat" style, like fela, & his sons also ; ebo taylor, orchestre poly rythmo, etc etc ......"
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12. topiacos, 2018
"@Jorge Luis S , here's a good list : Afro Funk, Afro Social Club, Akido, Akoya Afrobeat, Alemayehu Eshete, Anthony Joseph & The Spasm band, Tony Allen, Amala2, Aphrodesia , Antibalas, NMB Afrobeat Experience, Assagai, Bantous Jazz, Budos Band, Bukky Leo & Black Egypt, Cymande, Manu Dibango, Ghetto Blaster, Franck Biyong & Massak, Funkees, Funk Ark, Lafayette Afro Rock Band, Osibisa, Professor Wouassa Fanga, Kokolo, Fela Anikulapo Kuti, Femi Kuti, Seun Kuti, Lagbaja, Nomo, Délé Sosimi, Orchestre Poly-Rythmo, Ebo Taylor, The Souljazz Orchestra, Kèlè Kèlè Afrobeat, Whitefield Brothers, Rytmetix, Oghene Kologbo, Segun Damisa, Ernesto Djédjé, Herléo Muntu, Abomey Afrojazz Orchestra & Gbedossou, Newen Afrobeat.
enjoy ;)"
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13. theoldschooloriginal, 2015
"@ 0:03 Biz Markie sampled, chopped and looped this drum beat for the song called Nobody Beats The Biz."
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14. Roberto Ginsburg, 2019
"Actually their producer Marley Marl was , who is knowed like the father of sampling era in Hip Hop."
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15. Glen Boyle, 2015
"hit me with that fat bassline and funky hornlines,"
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16. Sal Presti, 2015
"The crackling of the record adds to the coolness of it IMO"
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17. PrinceEnki2112, 2016
"Wow...have no clue how I got here but this album is off the hook. Fantastic chops by all, thanks for the upload!"
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18. Chris Sandoval, 2016
"man, grew up in the era but never heard of this great band before, thanks for turning me on to something awesome."
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19. Christina Collier, 2016
"How can you NOT like this?! Ahhhh the artists who've sampled this.... I bet these dudes are rolling in dough now"
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20. George Bennett, 2016
"I wouldn't be so sure. Amen Brother's the most sampled drum break of all time the genre of Jungle's practically built around it and up until last year (or early this year I don't remember) they never saw a penny :("
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21. William P Scott, 2016
"Christina Collier Unfortunately they are not! Most of the group members are deceased and the ones that are still alive are fighting to get there just do"
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22. DeadheadYates, 2016
"funk transcends race, age, or gender. easily some of the best music on the planet, a gorgeous blend of soul, jazz, and rock music. gets me off my ass and jammin!"
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23. DealReal12, 2016
"You're absolutely right Sir! Right on Brother! Right on Sisters Everywhere."
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24. Karol, 2016
"The internet is such a blessing, being able to find musical gems so easily."
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25. Court Laszlo, 2016
"The Lafeyette Afro Rock Band had to go a long way to become this celebrated. Formed on Long Island in 1970, they left the US after deciding (probably correctly) that the funk scene was too saturated. Saxophonist Leroy Gomez linked up with the band in Paris, writing and producing ‘Hihache’ and playing the sax solo ‘Darkest Light’, both iconic breakbeats and samples, respectively. Gomez would go on be the vocalist for Santa Esmeralda, whose cover of ‘Don’t Let Me Be Misunderstood’ would be a disco hit.
‘Hihache’ heard in:
Biz Markie, ‘Nobody Beats the Biz‘ (1988)
LL Cool J, ‘Jingling Baby‘ (1989)
Masters at Work, ‘Get Up‘ (1991)
Wu-Tang Clan, ‘Wu-Tang Clan Ain’t Nuthing Ta F&ck Wit‘ (1993)
Flying Lotus, ‘Vegas Collie‘ (2007)
http://www.factmag.com/2014/02/04/sample-the-funk-10-legendary-samples-and-the-stories-behind-them/4/"
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26. Kim B, 2016
"also sampled by Beatnuts, Naughty By Nature, Shai (with Jay Z), Jurrasic 5, Amy Winehouse, Public Enemy, Tribe Called Quest, Channel Live (with KRS 1), De La Soul, Mary J Blige and Biggie Smalls, Ice Cube, Gravediggaz, Aphex Twin, Nice and Smooth, Janet Jackson, Madonna, Kriss Kross, Souls oF Mischief, Funkmaster Flex, Black Moon, Eric B and Rakim, Moby, Slick Rick, Nas, Peter Gabriel, Stezo, The Pharcyde etc etc the list goes on and on and on. its been sampled in everything from pop to hip hop"
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27. Sven Croon, 2016
"thx for the info!!! You CLEARLY know your stuff. I'm wondering, did these artists that used samples, know and love the original artist? Or were they simply taking cool samples off of a sample CD anonymously? I would hope they were using samples of their own heroes, rather than just using samples that sounded cool but had no clue where they came from..."
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28. Bruce Mitchell, 2017
"Some cases they had parents that played it when they were kids and it sunk in, in other cases they just listened to songs for beats without actually delving into the meat of the musical matter. The latter are the djs from the late 90s to 2000s. [I started DJing in 68, mobile DJing in '75."
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29. TONY STORM, 2017
"Ty"
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"Ty" = "thank you"
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30. Fuzzard Frames, 2017
"Court Laszlo
Props some of this I did not know,...love and respect"
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31. Andreas T., 2018
"Santa Esmeralda & Leroy Gomez were huge in late seventies. But someone must be older than fifty to know that :))"
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32. J Garth Jr, 2019
"Can hear where The Doors found sound wave for Riders on the Storm. Lafayette Afro Rock Band the inspiration!"
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33. brooklynstudent73, 2015
"This is one song where I see images of Puerto Rican brothers playing the congas in Spanish Harlem or the Lower East Side, Manhattan, and the militant Red, Black and Green flag African-American/Asiatic brothers playing congas and djiembe's in Mt. Morris Park in Harlem, Tompkins/Von King Park in Bedford-Stuyvesant, Brooklyn or Brower Park in Crown Heights, Brooklyn, or Roy Wilkins Park in St. Albans, Queens. It perfectly captures Afrikan-Fela Kuti-Manu Dibango-type funk, with that straight up-hip-hop/B-Boy funk out of NYC, spun by Afrika Bambattaa, Kool Herc, and Grandmaster Flash. Zulu Nation, 5 Percent Nation, Black Spades, Casanovas, Tomahawks, Jolly Stompers, Savage Skulls, Savage Nomads, 7 Crowns stand up!! Brooklyn stand up!!"
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34. EMAN, 2018
"EXACTLY"
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35. Rob Lopez, 2018
"On point"
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36. PAKposse, 2019
"Wow that’s is one stream of consciousness line there… As one of the 3 blooded island boyz who came to NYC along the immigrant path I first felt I could exhale, the music and food fell into place… rice n peas with yam balls with an extra plate for the ol’ country ancestors.
Wow thanks for kicking off that memory with your comment"
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37. steampump 1912, 2018
"Pure 70's groove."
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38. Chris Ventura, 2018
"Funk was the orgins of hip hop and breaking in NY."
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39. Tree City Cowboy, 2018
"Now this is a jam"
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40. Ed Claypoole, 2018
"This is why i love youtube. Good stuff like this! Get your funk on people!"
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41. natres rug, 2019
"Beautiful tunes from the best music era ever. It changed the world"
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42. Sambo Rambo, 2019
"FUNK IS LIFE"
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This comment was written in bold font on that discussion thread.
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43. Pay Me No Mind, 2019
"Boy, you look up one sample... and go down a helluva rabbit hole! Reappear like a day later - FUNKED UP!!! The band era's extinction signaled a loss of so much more than just great music."
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44. Tryezz Official Music, 2019
"Groovin'. Big respect."
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This concludes Part I of this two part pancocojams series about Lafayette Afro Rock Band.
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Monday, April 15, 2019
Saturday, April 8, 2017
Maître Gims – "Bella" (French pop song) video, partial lyrics, & comments)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This pancocojams post showcases the French pop song "Bella" by Maître Gims.
Information about Maître Gims is included in this post along with information about this song, partial lyrics (translated from French & Verlan to English) and a YouTube video.
I've also included a brief review of the portion I read of that video's discussion thread and selected comments from that portion of that video's comments.
This post is presented for linguistics, socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Maître Gims for his musical contribution. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT MAITRE GIMS
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C3%AEtre_Gims
"Gandhi Djuna (born 6 May 1986), better known by his stage name Maître Gims, is a French rapper and singer of Congolese descent. He is a former member of the hip-hop group Sexion d'Assaut, and has developed a solo career with a major release, his solo album Subliminal and his cousin Mario Kalinovic is also his producer.
Career
Gandhi Djuna, born in Kinshasa (DRC) with his brother, immigrated to France when he was just two years old. .... Taking the name of Gims, he rapped at college with his friends of Sexion d'Assaut while studying communication and graphical arts."...
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_(album)
Subliminal is the debut solo album of French rapper Maître Gims, member of the French rap group Sexion d'Assaut. The 18-track album was released 20 May 2013 on Wati B and on MMC, the latter founded by Maître Gims himself. The lyrics were all by Maître Gims whereas the music was by Maître Gims, Renaud Rebillaud and Stan-E Music. The album was a big success charting in France (reaching #2), Belgium (reaching #1) as well as charting in Switzerland.
On 2 December 2013, he re-released the album with six additional tracks he called La face cachée (the hidden face) for a total of 24 tracks, resulting in further interest in the album.
By 31 August 2015, the album had accumulated a total of more than 1,000,000 copies sold in France."...
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"Bella" is track #17 on that album.
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PARTIAL LYRICS - BELLA
(as written and sung by Maitre Gims; translated from French to English)
..."Yes,it's a phenomenon who likes to haunt our dreams
That woman was called, Bella the golden-skinned
Women hated her, and others envied her
But men could only love her
She wasn't a homegirl, neither easy nor difficult
Synonymous of "gorgeous", to her feet : only disciples
Whom quickly became undecided, trembling like leaves
She caressed you without even touching you
But when I see her dancing the evening
I'd like to be that chair on which she sits
Or less than that, a loser
Just a stone on her way
She answered to the name of Bella
The local people didn't want to let her go
She captivated all the villages
People was saying to me : "Be careful about that girl"...
Source: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/bella-bella-beauty.html
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SHOWCASE VIDEO - Maître Gims – Bella
MaitreGimsVEVO, Published on Jun 19, 2013
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As of 7:38 AM (DST) this video had the following statistics:
281,443,993 [total number of views]
776,692 [thumbs up] 63,290 [thumbs down]
[total number of] comments - 52,518
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MY EDITORIAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I READ FROM THAT VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
As noted above, the embedded video of Maitre Gim's "Bella" has a huge number of viewers and a very large number of commenters. Although I didn't count the number of those comments that I read, it probably was in the early thousands.
Judging from the comments that I read in that discussion thread, many people throughout the world are familiar with Maitre Gims' "Bella". Some people love it, lots of people like it, a considerable number of people dislike it, and some people hate it for one reason or another.
I learned about Maitre Gims' "Bella" song yesterday as a result of a search for French rap songs. I started that search after publishing a pancocojams post on Verlan (French slang) which I read is often used in French rap. Although Maitre Gims is identified in the Wikipedia page (whose link is given above) as a French rapper, "Bella" isn't a rap song.
Given that Maitre Gims is a French man who was born in the Democratic Republic Of The Congo, some commenters wondered if racism against Black people was the reason why a number of people dislike his performance of "Bella". Quite a few commenters in the portion of the discussion thread that whose refuted this theory saying that what they disliked was Gim's commercialism and what many of them referred to as the song's "sh&tty"* lyrics. [As per the policy of this blog, amended spelling is given for profanity]. Many of those comments were made in response to non-French speakers writing that they loved how the song sounds.
One commenter in the portion of comments that I read criticized this video because Maitre Grims was the only Black person in the video. One commenter responding to this criticism writing that it was racist and anyway Maitre Grims had another video that mostly featured Black people.
Most of the comments that I read in the discussion thread were written in French. I used "Google translate" to get the English translation of those comments.
A few times in the portion of this discussion thread that I read, an English speaking commenter would write "English comment passing through". That would start a sub-thread of comments in English. Another sub-thread of comments that I read began with someone writing if there were any Latinos in this discussion. However, at some point, that sub-thread changed to people from non- Latino nations indicating the country that they were from (such as Saudi Arabia, Poland, and Armenia). While some people identified themselves throughout that discussion thread as being from the United States, there were no comments from people who identified themselves as being from any African nation other than North Africa - An exception to that statement might be the commenter who wrote that he or she was an "African from Sweden passing through". I also didn't find any comments from any Caribbean nation, but (as I indicated above) there were some comments from some South American nations.
A number of people who studying French in school wrote that they had a difficult time understanding the lyrics for Maitre Gims' "Bella". Quite a number of native French speakers agreed that they also didn't understand many of the words used in that song. Some commenters wrote that the reason for this, beyond the fact that Gims' sung fast, was that some of the words in that song were in Verlans (French slang). For the record, no pun intended, it appeared to me that there were only a few comments in that video's discussion thread that included Verlans words. Furthermore, only a few comments that I read had the Arabic/French words "je kiff[e]". In contrast, in that portion of that discussion thread that I read, there were more comments that included the (no longer used by African Americans that way) Black slang term "cool" (meaning "very good.) And there were even more commenters who used other terms that are still currently "in" [I think] among African Americans slang terms such as "dope" and "fire" and/or drawings of flames. "Dope" and "fire" and a drawings of flames mean that in those commenter's opinion that song was "very good"/"hot".
Without further editorial notes, here are some examples of those types of comments from that video's discussion thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMltoD1jCGI
These comments given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first, except for replies. This compilation doesn't purport to be the complete comments from any of these sub-threads (indicated by "replies").
These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
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1. Ayoitsthatkid
"Why are people hating him because he is black?"
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2. Martin V
"its called racism"
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3. com_plaining
"People aren't hating on him because he is black but because his music is shi&&y*"
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*That word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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4. ana colda
"ANd what about hating him? People are stupid and do not apreciate a real value. I like his music."
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5. LoSJK
"+ana colda A real value ? Are you serious ? His lyrics suck. The voice is autotuned. The hole music sucks."
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6. Junubia
"His lyrics are shi&&y*? I don't understand a word of French, so it sounds pretty good to me lol."
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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7. Luda Na
"+Laurine SJK Oh yeah. Gims sucks we're ok about it x)
For people who don't speak french : Trust me, the lyrics sucks. Really. And autotune ... He destroyed my eaaaars ! This is not music. This is not art. This is commerce only ;)"
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8. Junubia
"+Laurine SJK I just looked up the lyrics in English. From my understanding its about a girl who captivated everyone with her beauty. Women envied her, men wanted her. Ultimately she used her beauty to the detriment of others.
I think its pretty deep.
But I'm American. Maybe because of people like Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne, everything sounds good comparatively. LOL"
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9. Astrathena
"We don't hate because he is black, we hate his stupid texts. I'm French and I can say that the lyrics are just ... Pathetic."
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10. Luda Na
"Maître Gims doesnt rap."
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11. John Smith
"+Fantasy.Isotope Only in crappy music videos like this a re blacks getting white girls"
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12. Aziz Ahmed
"+Ayoitsthatkid typical white people, always jealous"
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13. Abdulsamet Gunal
"don't worry we are not racist ;)
i like malcolm x, che, ghandi, blah..."
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14. Karakolev
"If I was racist I wouldn't listen to Ice Cube, Eazy E, 2pac, Snoop Dogg, RickRoss, Wiz Khalifa and all of the black skinned rappers.."
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15. Ayoitsthatkid
"Just because you listen to black singers doesn't mean you are not racist...."
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16. Ayoitsthatkid
"Or a bigot"
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17. "Ayoitsthatkid I got friends that are black :)..and I treat them like white people.."
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18. Ayoitsthatkid
"+Karakolev` This comment proves that you are a bigot"
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19. Karakolev`
"+Ayoitsthatkid bigot, w0t?"
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20. Zolane - Elly Skidda
"Is not because he is black"
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21. Misterboy02
"it's not because he is black, because he sings like sh&t"*
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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22. Dżuliette Daw
"can be black but if muslim then sh&t"*
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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23. Reply
oumayma elkarzazi
"come on this is called racism ... and then whoo cares if he is muslim or christian or something else.we are human we must respest each other we must respect religions Sooo please stop sayins this judgement because it hurts ..besides it's useless"
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24. Fadi Eissa-Darwish
"+Shamanniac1 non , c'est la vérité que je tu dis :v
J'ai beaucoup d'amis et des hommes que je les connais bien en France
et tu sais bien le racisme contre les Arabes dans la France
Je m'excuse de les fautes de grammaire"
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Shamanniac1 no, it is the truth that I say: v
I have many friends and men that I know well in France
And you know the racism against the Arabs in France
I apologize for grammatical errors"
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25. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+EISSA PROD C'est sûr il y a du racisme en france ! Comme partout. Je disais juste que ce message c'est de la provocation car évidemment les gens ne détestent pas Gim's parce qu'il est noir, plutôt parce qu'il est devenu très commercial à mon avis..."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ EISSA PROD Sure, there is racism in France! Like everywhere. I just said that this message is provocation because of course people do not hate Gim's because it is black, rather because it has become very commercial in my opinion ..."
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26. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+Bubumeilichan T'as de la chance de pas avoir subi le racisme, c'est clair qu'il y en a. Mais si certains insultent ce pays c'est pas simplement par ingratitude comme tu dis. Il faut bien voir que certains sont beaucoup moins bien accueillis que toi..."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Bubumeilichan You are lucky not to have suffered racism, it is clear that there are. But if some insult this country it is not simply because of ingratitude as you say. We must see that some are much less welcome than you ..."
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27. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+Bubumeilichan Je t'assure que tu as eu beaucoup de chance de ne jamais voir de racisme. Je connais des noirs et des arabes qui l'ont souvent subi, et ils n'ont pas l'impression que la France à fait quelque chose pour eux. Ils ont juste eu accès aux mêmes choses que tous les autres Français ce qui est simplement normal."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Bubumeilichan I assure you that you were very lucky to never see racism. I know blacks and Arabs who have often suffered, and they do not feel that France has done anything for them. They just had access to the same things as all the other French people which is just normal."
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28. lotfi houcine, 2017
"Moi je le respecte c est un grand chanteur"
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"I respect it c is a great singer"
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29. Huntez Gaming, 2017
"Ayoitsthatkid no just learn French the lyrics suck"
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30. Cristina Adsc, 2017
"people don't hate him! he is one of the most popular singer in france and he received lots of love and support"
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2015
31. KiD LUCKiE
"Just an African that lives in sweden passing through..."
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32. Le Palmier de chez MrAntoineDaniel
"+KiD LUCKiE omg if another african that lives in sweden find this message, he would be very happy"
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33. Sandra A
"Waddup fellow swede, jag är inte afrikan though lel
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"Waddup" is a form of the African American Vernacular English greeting term "What's up".
"jag är inte afrikan" translated from Swedish to English = "I'm not African".
"lel" may be a typo for the internet term "lol" [laughing out loud]
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2016
34. Marion Anthony "Fat Tony" D'Amico
"Who else thought it would be cool to type in "french rap" "
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35. Andy Zhang
"That's literally what I did lmao"
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36. greySTEAM
"seemed like a good idea...."
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37. Infinity
"typed "best french rap""
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38. Idilique òwó
"This is not french rap."
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39. Odba Labrada
"thats exactly wut i put on the youtube search bar then "maîte gims" came up and i started listening to his songs"
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40. Britain Wells
"You all should look up Booba, Damso, Gradur, Kaaris... all fire 🔥🔥"
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41. Alexandre Inconnu
"If you search the really french rap please go to I AM : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27%C3%89cole_du_micro_d%27argent the best french rap ever"
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42. rephael reyes
"I thought there was no way french rap would exist, that's why I've searched it :P"
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43. Iman A
"you'd be surprised to see how much french rap music there is"
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44. Jorge Castro
"Marion Anthony "Fat Tony" D'Amico I dont understand what they say but french rap is dope"
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45. Pamela Enyonu
"I am just happy to find a comment in English."
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46. Jennifer aldana
"I only understand bella shella and village and i'm the best in my frenchclass😂👏🏻"
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47. Aimée Moore
"actually, "Shella" it's the verlan of , like lâcher = cher'lâ"
Yes....complicated . XD
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The French word "lâcher" = "letting go"
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/04/verlan-french-slang-and-use-of-word.html for a pancocojams post on Verlan (French slang).
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48. Mariana Lima
"I heard "cherche", "le soir", "difficile", "magnifique", "même", "pour moi", "la tête", that's all I've got xD"
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49. Mariana Lima
"+Aimée Moore why does verlan even exist? It's so weird"
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50. Aimée Moore
"I don't even know XD There is the word louche which means fishy, the verlan of this word is chelou (a word who is very use by teens, contrary of louche) BUT chelou means more weird than fishy. Cher'lâ is not very use, like, the first time I heard this song, I don't understand what does Maitre Gims say. The verlan is not officialy correct. (I have make any grammatical mistakes in English? )"
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51. ED86
"Well I have been speaking english for 16 years and I cant understand Wiz Khalifa or Drake..."
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Wiz Khalifa is an African American rapper and Drake is a Canadian R&B/Hip Hop singer.
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52. Zont26
"Just an English comment passing through..."
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53. Elie Isso
"I was waiting for one.
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54. Brennan Thornhill
"Was searching 4 1"
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55. marie rofou
"hi 😊😊"
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56. MORNET Etienne
"hi english comment"
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57. Ilovecheese
"+BAKERBONK It's good to see some english speakers :)"
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58. BAKERBONK
"Yeah :)"
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59. Hilda Isabeles
"im usa citizen"
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60. King Joe
"Same here fam"
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"fam" is a clip of the word "family". "Fam" appears to be currently "in" among African Americans and non-African Americans as an gender inclusive referent for people who share some kind of connection to you (whether it be biological, national, racial, ethnic, community, regional etc.)
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61. Th3BlindRebel
"Sameeeee"
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62. Cap Reed Crusader1210
"+Zont26 another English comment passing through"
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63. Cameron's Vlogs
"+Zont26 Yeah Boy. Ignorant Americans are smart enough to appreciate good French music :) I'm one of them. But I'm less ignorant than most Americans. We are So So So screwed in a few months. Cheers Russia."
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64. Deborah F
"+Zont26 so this is the English comment section"
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65. Sheeza Ejaz
"So this was probably already mentioned in the French comments but since I'm 'murican, I thought I'd ask in English. DOES ANYONE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW SMOKING HOT THE GIRL IS IN THIS VIDEO??"
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66. salim diab
"6 years of French class n I've understand nothing! daf&q*
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*This colloquial form of a common profanity phrase is fully spelled out in this comment..
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67. Emile Patte
"Aha that's normal, lyrics are complicate for french."
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68. Gaelle
"It s not academic words"
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69. Gametime
"First, french speaked is totally different from French written and the french you learn at school. And second, It's a music, so it's a bit more complicated."
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70. ChippiE PivV
"I'm french and I don't understand; so no worries"
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71. Tripple 7
"You will never learn those lyrics in class, they are pretty hard to understand, and their meanin are worst.. it has a second story deeper in the lyrics"
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72. emine momo, 2017
"cause this is the slang french not the school french. he speaks about a girl which is called bella because of her beauty ;)"
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73. SMAIL MUTLULUK, 2017
"salim diab bcuz thats african way of speaking french hhhhhh"
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74. Tedultra18, 2017
"+Alexandre Rault Faut pas exagérer, il n'y a que trois mots de verlan : iench, iep et chéla.
Respectivement chien, pied et lâcher."
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translation from French to English
"+ Alexandre Rault Do not exaggerate, there are only three words of verlan: iench, iep and chela. Respectively dog, foot and let go."
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75. Trippy Jimbob
"240 million views and I've never even heard of this geeza before"
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"geeza" is probably a form of the word "geezer" which usually means "old man". However, my guess is that "geeza" here is a relatively neutral term for "dude".
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76. BlertaK
"I was thinking the same. Heard it for the first time."
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77. Akin Sumer
"This song was very famous in french country"
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78. ImDrunq
"Maybe because it's a french song?"
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79. juste kevin
"+Messi Menon Was very famous in 2013. But since that time nobody listen to this song anymore in france. I think there are more foreigners that listen to this than french."
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80. Maimouna Datt
"Trop cool"
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81. NAKMEEZY
"As popular as this guy is you'd think he would at least have a black Bella or more people of color in this video. Only thing black in this video is him and the rims on the Lamborghini."
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82. NAKMEEZY
"Lmaooooo I realized the bull was black after my comment. Good eye!"
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83. Imen Toumi
"you can watch his song ''sapé comme jamais'' if u want black people. There's some diversity lol"
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84. zTundra
"He lives in a country where 88% of the population is white... what did you expect?"
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85. NAKMEEZY
"I expect him or his management team to acknowledge the 12pct that are not represented in this video. You could at least fit one more black and a Morrocan in there."
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86. simplythebest286
"not everybody thinks about skin color like racist americans !!!!"
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87. FruityCandy
"+simplythebest286 Are you brainless? Your stupidity is astounding."
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2017
88. Jihen Henia
"chapeau!!!!! j'ai rien a dire que waaaaaaaawwww!!! c'est de la pûre bombe!!!"
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translated by Google translate from French to English
"hat!!!!! I have nothing to say that waaaaaaaawwww !!! It's the bomb!"
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"The bomb" is a no longer used (by African American) term that means "very good". Instead, the current superlatives that (I believe) African Americans use are "the sh&t*" and "fire".
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89. S. N
"je apprendre français at la classe. I am taking french at school and want to ameliorer so I guess this'll help. it's hard tho"
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90. Suis-je un Geek ?
"Je corrige :
J'apprends le français en classe. Je parle français à l'école et je veux l'améliorer donc je devine que ceci aidra.
C'est difficile. (Idk what "tho" means)"
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This commenter is correcting the French that was used by S.N.
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91. Lysa :3
"S. N Yeah but there's some words you can't uderstand, in french we say "verlan" for exemple in this donc "bête comme les iep" normally it's "bête comme les pieds" i don't know how to say it in english"
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92. Azizi Powell
" "tho" = "though", but in that sentence 'tho" means "however"."
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Amy Balcome
93. "je kiff bella
en pasant fait un titre pour moi❤🙈"
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94. Laure Mecoeur
"je t adore je te kiff grave"
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95. Calixta dOreye
"super cool"
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96. Levent Kacmaz
"so bad"
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"Bad" here can have its standard negative meaning or it could be an incorrectly used example of the African American Vernacular English positive meaning of that word, a slang term that African Americans haven't used since at least the 1990s.
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Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This pancocojams post showcases the French pop song "Bella" by Maître Gims.
Information about Maître Gims is included in this post along with information about this song, partial lyrics (translated from French & Verlan to English) and a YouTube video.
I've also included a brief review of the portion I read of that video's discussion thread and selected comments from that portion of that video's comments.
This post is presented for linguistics, socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Maître Gims for his musical contribution. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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INFORMATION ABOUT MAITRE GIMS
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ma%C3%AEtre_Gims
"Gandhi Djuna (born 6 May 1986), better known by his stage name Maître Gims, is a French rapper and singer of Congolese descent. He is a former member of the hip-hop group Sexion d'Assaut, and has developed a solo career with a major release, his solo album Subliminal and his cousin Mario Kalinovic is also his producer.
Career
Gandhi Djuna, born in Kinshasa (DRC) with his brother, immigrated to France when he was just two years old. .... Taking the name of Gims, he rapped at college with his friends of Sexion d'Assaut while studying communication and graphical arts."...
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subliminal_(album)
Subliminal is the debut solo album of French rapper Maître Gims, member of the French rap group Sexion d'Assaut. The 18-track album was released 20 May 2013 on Wati B and on MMC, the latter founded by Maître Gims himself. The lyrics were all by Maître Gims whereas the music was by Maître Gims, Renaud Rebillaud and Stan-E Music. The album was a big success charting in France (reaching #2), Belgium (reaching #1) as well as charting in Switzerland.
On 2 December 2013, he re-released the album with six additional tracks he called La face cachée (the hidden face) for a total of 24 tracks, resulting in further interest in the album.
By 31 August 2015, the album had accumulated a total of more than 1,000,000 copies sold in France."...
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"Bella" is track #17 on that album.
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PARTIAL LYRICS - BELLA
(as written and sung by Maitre Gims; translated from French to English)
..."Yes,it's a phenomenon who likes to haunt our dreams
That woman was called, Bella the golden-skinned
Women hated her, and others envied her
But men could only love her
She wasn't a homegirl, neither easy nor difficult
Synonymous of "gorgeous", to her feet : only disciples
Whom quickly became undecided, trembling like leaves
She caressed you without even touching you
But when I see her dancing the evening
I'd like to be that chair on which she sits
Or less than that, a loser
Just a stone on her way
She answered to the name of Bella
The local people didn't want to let her go
She captivated all the villages
People was saying to me : "Be careful about that girl"...
Source: http://lyricstranslate.com/en/bella-bella-beauty.html
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SHOWCASE VIDEO - Maître Gims – Bella
MaitreGimsVEVO, Published on Jun 19, 2013
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As of 7:38 AM (DST) this video had the following statistics:
281,443,993 [total number of views]
776,692 [thumbs up] 63,290 [thumbs down]
[total number of] comments - 52,518
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MY EDITORIAL COMMENTS ABOUT THE COMMENTS THAT I READ FROM THAT VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
As noted above, the embedded video of Maitre Gim's "Bella" has a huge number of viewers and a very large number of commenters. Although I didn't count the number of those comments that I read, it probably was in the early thousands.
Judging from the comments that I read in that discussion thread, many people throughout the world are familiar with Maitre Gims' "Bella". Some people love it, lots of people like it, a considerable number of people dislike it, and some people hate it for one reason or another.
I learned about Maitre Gims' "Bella" song yesterday as a result of a search for French rap songs. I started that search after publishing a pancocojams post on Verlan (French slang) which I read is often used in French rap. Although Maitre Gims is identified in the Wikipedia page (whose link is given above) as a French rapper, "Bella" isn't a rap song.
Given that Maitre Gims is a French man who was born in the Democratic Republic Of The Congo, some commenters wondered if racism against Black people was the reason why a number of people dislike his performance of "Bella". Quite a few commenters in the portion of the discussion thread that whose refuted this theory saying that what they disliked was Gim's commercialism and what many of them referred to as the song's "sh&tty"* lyrics. [As per the policy of this blog, amended spelling is given for profanity]. Many of those comments were made in response to non-French speakers writing that they loved how the song sounds.
One commenter in the portion of comments that I read criticized this video because Maitre Grims was the only Black person in the video. One commenter responding to this criticism writing that it was racist and anyway Maitre Grims had another video that mostly featured Black people.
Most of the comments that I read in the discussion thread were written in French. I used "Google translate" to get the English translation of those comments.
A few times in the portion of this discussion thread that I read, an English speaking commenter would write "English comment passing through". That would start a sub-thread of comments in English. Another sub-thread of comments that I read began with someone writing if there were any Latinos in this discussion. However, at some point, that sub-thread changed to people from non- Latino nations indicating the country that they were from (such as Saudi Arabia, Poland, and Armenia). While some people identified themselves throughout that discussion thread as being from the United States, there were no comments from people who identified themselves as being from any African nation other than North Africa - An exception to that statement might be the commenter who wrote that he or she was an "African from Sweden passing through". I also didn't find any comments from any Caribbean nation, but (as I indicated above) there were some comments from some South American nations.
A number of people who studying French in school wrote that they had a difficult time understanding the lyrics for Maitre Gims' "Bella". Quite a number of native French speakers agreed that they also didn't understand many of the words used in that song. Some commenters wrote that the reason for this, beyond the fact that Gims' sung fast, was that some of the words in that song were in Verlans (French slang). For the record, no pun intended, it appeared to me that there were only a few comments in that video's discussion thread that included Verlans words. Furthermore, only a few comments that I read had the Arabic/French words "je kiff[e]". In contrast, in that portion of that discussion thread that I read, there were more comments that included the (no longer used by African Americans that way) Black slang term "cool" (meaning "very good.) And there were even more commenters who used other terms that are still currently "in" [I think] among African Americans slang terms such as "dope" and "fire" and/or drawings of flames. "Dope" and "fire" and a drawings of flames mean that in those commenter's opinion that song was "very good"/"hot".
Without further editorial notes, here are some examples of those types of comments from that video's discussion thread: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMltoD1jCGI
These comments given in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first, except for replies. This compilation doesn't purport to be the complete comments from any of these sub-threads (indicated by "replies").
These comments are numbered for referencing purposes only.
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
2014
1. Ayoitsthatkid
"Why are people hating him because he is black?"
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2. Martin V
"its called racism"
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3. com_plaining
"People aren't hating on him because he is black but because his music is shi&&y*"
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*That word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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4. ana colda
"ANd what about hating him? People are stupid and do not apreciate a real value. I like his music."
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5. LoSJK
"+ana colda A real value ? Are you serious ? His lyrics suck. The voice is autotuned. The hole music sucks."
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6. Junubia
"His lyrics are shi&&y*? I don't understand a word of French, so it sounds pretty good to me lol."
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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7. Luda Na
"+Laurine SJK Oh yeah. Gims sucks we're ok about it x)
For people who don't speak french : Trust me, the lyrics sucks. Really. And autotune ... He destroyed my eaaaars ! This is not music. This is not art. This is commerce only ;)"
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8. Junubia
"+Laurine SJK I just looked up the lyrics in English. From my understanding its about a girl who captivated everyone with her beauty. Women envied her, men wanted her. Ultimately she used her beauty to the detriment of others.
I think its pretty deep.
But I'm American. Maybe because of people like Justin Bieber and Lil Wayne, everything sounds good comparatively. LOL"
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9. Astrathena
"We don't hate because he is black, we hate his stupid texts. I'm French and I can say that the lyrics are just ... Pathetic."
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10. Luda Na
"Maître Gims doesnt rap."
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11. John Smith
"+Fantasy.Isotope Only in crappy music videos like this a re blacks getting white girls"
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12. Aziz Ahmed
"+Ayoitsthatkid typical white people, always jealous"
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13. Abdulsamet Gunal
"don't worry we are not racist ;)
i like malcolm x, che, ghandi, blah..."
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14. Karakolev
"If I was racist I wouldn't listen to Ice Cube, Eazy E, 2pac, Snoop Dogg, RickRoss, Wiz Khalifa and all of the black skinned rappers.."
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15. Ayoitsthatkid
"Just because you listen to black singers doesn't mean you are not racist...."
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16. Ayoitsthatkid
"Or a bigot"
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17. "Ayoitsthatkid I got friends that are black :)..and I treat them like white people.."
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18. Ayoitsthatkid
"+Karakolev` This comment proves that you are a bigot"
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19. Karakolev`
"+Ayoitsthatkid bigot, w0t?"
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20. Zolane - Elly Skidda
"Is not because he is black"
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21. Misterboy02
"it's not because he is black, because he sings like sh&t"*
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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22. Dżuliette Daw
"can be black but if muslim then sh&t"*
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.
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23. Reply
oumayma elkarzazi
"come on this is called racism ... and then whoo cares if he is muslim or christian or something else.we are human we must respest each other we must respect religions Sooo please stop sayins this judgement because it hurts ..besides it's useless"
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24. Fadi Eissa-Darwish
"+Shamanniac1 non , c'est la vérité que je tu dis :v
J'ai beaucoup d'amis et des hommes que je les connais bien en France
et tu sais bien le racisme contre les Arabes dans la France
Je m'excuse de les fautes de grammaire"
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Shamanniac1 no, it is the truth that I say: v
I have many friends and men that I know well in France
And you know the racism against the Arabs in France
I apologize for grammatical errors"
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25. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+EISSA PROD C'est sûr il y a du racisme en france ! Comme partout. Je disais juste que ce message c'est de la provocation car évidemment les gens ne détestent pas Gim's parce qu'il est noir, plutôt parce qu'il est devenu très commercial à mon avis..."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ EISSA PROD Sure, there is racism in France! Like everywhere. I just said that this message is provocation because of course people do not hate Gim's because it is black, rather because it has become very commercial in my opinion ..."
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26. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+Bubumeilichan T'as de la chance de pas avoir subi le racisme, c'est clair qu'il y en a. Mais si certains insultent ce pays c'est pas simplement par ingratitude comme tu dis. Il faut bien voir que certains sont beaucoup moins bien accueillis que toi..."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Bubumeilichan You are lucky not to have suffered racism, it is clear that there are. But if some insult this country it is not simply because of ingratitude as you say. We must see that some are much less welcome than you ..."
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27. Shamanniac, SJW bien-pensant
"+Bubumeilichan Je t'assure que tu as eu beaucoup de chance de ne jamais voir de racisme. Je connais des noirs et des arabes qui l'ont souvent subi, et ils n'ont pas l'impression que la France à fait quelque chose pour eux. Ils ont juste eu accès aux mêmes choses que tous les autres Français ce qui est simplement normal."
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"+ Bubumeilichan I assure you that you were very lucky to never see racism. I know blacks and Arabs who have often suffered, and they do not feel that France has done anything for them. They just had access to the same things as all the other French people which is just normal."
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28. lotfi houcine, 2017
"Moi je le respecte c est un grand chanteur"
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Translated from French to English by Google translate:
"I respect it c is a great singer"
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29. Huntez Gaming, 2017
"Ayoitsthatkid no just learn French the lyrics suck"
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30. Cristina Adsc, 2017
"people don't hate him! he is one of the most popular singer in france and he received lots of love and support"
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2015
31. KiD LUCKiE
"Just an African that lives in sweden passing through..."
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32. Le Palmier de chez MrAntoineDaniel
"+KiD LUCKiE omg if another african that lives in sweden find this message, he would be very happy"
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33. Sandra A
"Waddup fellow swede, jag är inte afrikan though lel
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"Waddup" is a form of the African American Vernacular English greeting term "What's up".
"jag är inte afrikan" translated from Swedish to English = "I'm not African".
"lel" may be a typo for the internet term "lol" [laughing out loud]
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2016
34. Marion Anthony "Fat Tony" D'Amico
"Who else thought it would be cool to type in "french rap" "
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35. Andy Zhang
"That's literally what I did lmao"
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36. greySTEAM
"seemed like a good idea...."
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37. Infinity
"typed "best french rap""
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38. Idilique òwó
"This is not french rap."
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39. Odba Labrada
"thats exactly wut i put on the youtube search bar then "maîte gims" came up and i started listening to his songs"
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40. Britain Wells
"You all should look up Booba, Damso, Gradur, Kaaris... all fire 🔥🔥"
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41. Alexandre Inconnu
"If you search the really french rap please go to I AM : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%27%C3%89cole_du_micro_d%27argent the best french rap ever"
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42. rephael reyes
"I thought there was no way french rap would exist, that's why I've searched it :P"
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43. Iman A
"you'd be surprised to see how much french rap music there is"
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44. Jorge Castro
"Marion Anthony "Fat Tony" D'Amico I dont understand what they say but french rap is dope"
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45. Pamela Enyonu
"I am just happy to find a comment in English."
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46. Jennifer aldana
"I only understand bella shella and village and i'm the best in my frenchclass😂👏🏻"
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47. Aimée Moore
"actually, "Shella" it's the verlan of , like lâcher = cher'lâ"
Yes....complicated . XD
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The French word "lâcher" = "letting go"
Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2017/04/verlan-french-slang-and-use-of-word.html for a pancocojams post on Verlan (French slang).
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48. Mariana Lima
"I heard "cherche", "le soir", "difficile", "magnifique", "même", "pour moi", "la tête", that's all I've got xD"
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49. Mariana Lima
"+Aimée Moore why does verlan even exist? It's so weird"
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50. Aimée Moore
"I don't even know XD There is the word louche which means fishy, the verlan of this word is chelou (a word who is very use by teens, contrary of louche) BUT chelou means more weird than fishy. Cher'lâ is not very use, like, the first time I heard this song, I don't understand what does Maitre Gims say. The verlan is not officialy correct. (I have make any grammatical mistakes in English? )"
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51. ED86
"Well I have been speaking english for 16 years and I cant understand Wiz Khalifa or Drake..."
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Wiz Khalifa is an African American rapper and Drake is a Canadian R&B/Hip Hop singer.
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52. Zont26
"Just an English comment passing through..."
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53. Elie Isso
"I was waiting for one.
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54. Brennan Thornhill
"Was searching 4 1"
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55. marie rofou
"hi 😊😊"
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56. MORNET Etienne
"hi english comment"
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57. Ilovecheese
"+BAKERBONK It's good to see some english speakers :)"
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58. BAKERBONK
"Yeah :)"
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59. Hilda Isabeles
"im usa citizen"
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60. King Joe
"Same here fam"
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"fam" is a clip of the word "family". "Fam" appears to be currently "in" among African Americans and non-African Americans as an gender inclusive referent for people who share some kind of connection to you (whether it be biological, national, racial, ethnic, community, regional etc.)
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61. Th3BlindRebel
"Sameeeee"
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62. Cap Reed Crusader1210
"+Zont26 another English comment passing through"
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63. Cameron's Vlogs
"+Zont26 Yeah Boy. Ignorant Americans are smart enough to appreciate good French music :) I'm one of them. But I'm less ignorant than most Americans. We are So So So screwed in a few months. Cheers Russia."
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64. Deborah F
"+Zont26 so this is the English comment section"
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65. Sheeza Ejaz
"So this was probably already mentioned in the French comments but since I'm 'murican, I thought I'd ask in English. DOES ANYONE WANT TO TALK ABOUT HOW SMOKING HOT THE GIRL IS IN THIS VIDEO??"
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66. salim diab
"6 years of French class n I've understand nothing! daf&q*
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*This colloquial form of a common profanity phrase is fully spelled out in this comment..
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67. Emile Patte
"Aha that's normal, lyrics are complicate for french."
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68. Gaelle
"It s not academic words"
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69. Gametime
"First, french speaked is totally different from French written and the french you learn at school. And second, It's a music, so it's a bit more complicated."
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70. ChippiE PivV
"I'm french and I don't understand; so no worries"
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71. Tripple 7
"You will never learn those lyrics in class, they are pretty hard to understand, and their meanin are worst.. it has a second story deeper in the lyrics"
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72. emine momo, 2017
"cause this is the slang french not the school french. he speaks about a girl which is called bella because of her beauty ;)"
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73. SMAIL MUTLULUK, 2017
"salim diab bcuz thats african way of speaking french hhhhhh"
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74. Tedultra18, 2017
"+Alexandre Rault Faut pas exagérer, il n'y a que trois mots de verlan : iench, iep et chéla.
Respectivement chien, pied et lâcher."
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translation from French to English
"+ Alexandre Rault Do not exaggerate, there are only three words of verlan: iench, iep and chela. Respectively dog, foot and let go."
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75. Trippy Jimbob
"240 million views and I've never even heard of this geeza before"
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"geeza" is probably a form of the word "geezer" which usually means "old man". However, my guess is that "geeza" here is a relatively neutral term for "dude".
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76. BlertaK
"I was thinking the same. Heard it for the first time."
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77. Akin Sumer
"This song was very famous in french country"
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78. ImDrunq
"Maybe because it's a french song?"
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79. juste kevin
"+Messi Menon Was very famous in 2013. But since that time nobody listen to this song anymore in france. I think there are more foreigners that listen to this than french."
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80. Maimouna Datt
"Trop cool"
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81. NAKMEEZY
"As popular as this guy is you'd think he would at least have a black Bella or more people of color in this video. Only thing black in this video is him and the rims on the Lamborghini."
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82. NAKMEEZY
"Lmaooooo I realized the bull was black after my comment. Good eye!"
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83. Imen Toumi
"you can watch his song ''sapé comme jamais'' if u want black people. There's some diversity lol"
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84. zTundra
"He lives in a country where 88% of the population is white... what did you expect?"
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85. NAKMEEZY
"I expect him or his management team to acknowledge the 12pct that are not represented in this video. You could at least fit one more black and a Morrocan in there."
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86. simplythebest286
"not everybody thinks about skin color like racist americans !!!!"
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87. FruityCandy
"+simplythebest286 Are you brainless? Your stupidity is astounding."
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88. Jihen Henia
"chapeau!!!!! j'ai rien a dire que waaaaaaaawwww!!! c'est de la pûre bombe!!!"
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translated by Google translate from French to English
"hat!!!!! I have nothing to say that waaaaaaaawwww !!! It's the bomb!"
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"The bomb" is a no longer used (by African American) term that means "very good". Instead, the current superlatives that (I believe) African Americans use are "the sh&t*" and "fire".
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89. S. N
"je apprendre français at la classe. I am taking french at school and want to ameliorer so I guess this'll help. it's hard tho"
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90. Suis-je un Geek ?
"Je corrige :
J'apprends le français en classe. Je parle français à l'école et je veux l'améliorer donc je devine que ceci aidra.
C'est difficile. (Idk what "tho" means)"
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This commenter is correcting the French that was used by S.N.
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91. Lysa :3
"S. N Yeah but there's some words you can't uderstand, in french we say "verlan" for exemple in this donc "bête comme les iep" normally it's "bête comme les pieds" i don't know how to say it in english"
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92. Azizi Powell
" "tho" = "though", but in that sentence 'tho" means "however"."
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Amy Balcome
93. "je kiff bella
en pasant fait un titre pour moi❤🙈"
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94. Laure Mecoeur
"je t adore je te kiff grave"
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95. Calixta dOreye
"super cool"
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96. Levent Kacmaz
"so bad"
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"Bad" here can have its standard negative meaning or it could be an incorrectly used example of the African American Vernacular English positive meaning of that word, a slang term that African Americans haven't used since at least the 1990s.
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Monday, October 12, 2015
Gare Lille Flandres par Eric Koloko - (Flashmob) "We Are One" (France)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post showcases a video of a flashmob in France that is led by Eric Koloko.
Information about Eric Koloko is also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Eric Koloko and all those who are featured in this video. Thanks also to the publisher of this video.
INFORMATION ABOUT ERIC KOLOKO
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Koloko
"Éric Koloko (born November 1 1950 in Lille) is a French dancer and choreographer, who was formerly a gymnast who competed at the 1976 Summer Olympics.[1] He is well known in northern France for his dance routines in tribute to Michael Jackson.[2]"
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Flashmob "we are one" Gare Lille Flandres par Eric KOLOKO
Eric KOLOKO, Published on Jun 28, 2014
http://www.koloko-coaching.com
Flashmob mis en scène par Eric KOLOKO en gare de Lille Flandres le 24 juin 2014 à l'occasion du Mondial
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The processional march beginning at 5:04 in this video reminds me of Liberian Grand March. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/02/grand-march-liberia-west-africa.html for a pancocojams post about Liberian Grand March.
An example of Brazilian Capoeira can be seen at 6:08 in this video. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/04/zum-zum-zum-mata-um-videos-lyrics.html for a pancocojams post about the Capoeira song "Zum Zum Zum".
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This post showcases a video of a flashmob in France that is led by Eric Koloko.
Information about Eric Koloko is also included in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Eric Koloko and all those who are featured in this video. Thanks also to the publisher of this video.
INFORMATION ABOUT ERIC KOLOKO
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%89ric_Koloko
"Éric Koloko (born November 1 1950 in Lille) is a French dancer and choreographer, who was formerly a gymnast who competed at the 1976 Summer Olympics.[1] He is well known in northern France for his dance routines in tribute to Michael Jackson.[2]"
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Flashmob "we are one" Gare Lille Flandres par Eric KOLOKO
Eric KOLOKO, Published on Jun 28, 2014
http://www.koloko-coaching.com
Flashmob mis en scène par Eric KOLOKO en gare de Lille Flandres le 24 juin 2014 à l'occasion du Mondial
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The processional march beginning at 5:04 in this video reminds me of Liberian Grand March. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/02/grand-march-liberia-west-africa.html for a pancocojams post about Liberian Grand March.
An example of Brazilian Capoeira can be seen at 6:08 in this video. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/04/zum-zum-zum-mata-um-videos-lyrics.html for a pancocojams post about the Capoeira song "Zum Zum Zum".
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