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Friday, December 5, 2025

What Do White Europeans Think About White Americans And/Or Black Americans Who Visit Or Move To Europe?


twinshangout kenya, Dec 3, 2025

Why WH!TE EUROPEANS Are Denying Their WH!TE AMERICAN Cousins. Let us know what you think about this episode, thanks for watching ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿพ

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a 2025 YouTube podcast about the acceptance and experiences that White Americans and/or Black Americans have who move to or who visit  Europe.

This post includes an excerpt from this podcast's auto-generated transcript and also presents some comments from this post's discussion thread.  

The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to these podcasters and thanks to all those who are quoted in this pancocojams post.

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This post presents some views that were expressed in one podcast. There are other online discussions about this subject that may partially or completely differ from these views.

For example, click https://www.reddit.com/r/CasualConversation/comments/1dyw4sz/how_do_europeans_feel_about_americans/ for the 2024 discussion thread entitled "
How do Europeans Feel about Americans?"

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EXCERPT FROM THIS PODCAST'S AUTO-GENERATED TRANSCRIPT
This excerpt is from 2:11 to 4:48.  The full length of this podcast is 22.12 minutes.
This transcript includes a few spelling corrections that I made as well as a few words added to the sentence to clarify or enhance its meaning. Those words are written in italics and given in brackets.    

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These comments in this excerpt are from a young African American woman who lived in three European nations.

"I made a video talking about how a lot of right-wing Americans are now calling
for everyone to go back to their countries of origin except for them. And a Trump
supporter with a pickup truck decided to comment that Europeans would actually be
grateful for white Americans whereas Africans would never accept African-Americans.


I'm sorry, what?

And it's one of the most delusional takes because I've talked in length about how when I lived in Europe - I lived in three countries. And one of the things that shocked me the most initially when I went to Europe, was how much vitriol Europeans had for Americans in general, 
including white Americans. They sort of see them as like those embarrassing cousins that they want nothing to do with because there's the knowledge that the United States is a European settler colony, but they have a great amount of disdain for what their cousins have turned into. And it was really interesting for me being there, hearing and witnessing it. Like Europeans absolutely go in about how they think Americans are stupid. They're trashy. They're classless. They absolutely have no respect for certain elements of American culture. and 100% believe that Americans are beneath them.

Let's not lie now. And let's just say realistically this move did happen that white Americans were accepted to go to Europe -replace all the immigrants that are there. Do you think they would be welcomed with open arms?

They wouldn't.

Because as any American who has immigrated to Europe already, one of the most reoccurring posts in any expat group or Americans in Europe group I was ever in were American people having negative experiences with Europeans,  [They] couldn't find friends. If they didn't have money, They would struggle in finding a job.

One of the biggest problems being their inability to speak the language of the country that they moved to.

And the fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter if they're white or black. In fact, I think that I had an easier time making friends in Europe than many white American people that I know.

And regarding Africans with African-Americans, I have never had a negative experience with an African person. Whether I was in Europe, here in America, in Canada, and friends that I know who have traveled to Africa have had nothing but good things to say.

I'm kind of tired of the projection that a lot of white people do with people of color where their skewed ideas about the world actually has more relevance to them than it does to Europeans telling white Americans that they have no connection to the country where their ancestors actually came from. [This] is the mentality of a colonizer. Right? Because the only people who are indigenous to the Americas are indigenous Americans."...

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS POST'S DISCUSSION THREAD.
All of these comments are from December 3 -December 5, 2025. 
Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ok-h8-up63E

Why WH!TE EUROPEANS Are Denying Their WH!TE AMERICAN Cousins.

1. @whoshebe2751
"EUROPE!!! call ya cousins home now๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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2. @blue2mato312
"No thank you! ๐Ÿ˜… And by the way, if we go far enough back we are really all cousins no matter skin colour. I will not claim them and the mess they have made both inside their country and abroad with their wars. If this continues to be a race war only in reverse it will feel good for oppressed people for a while, but then the roles just switch. Our planet does not have time for it, it would be much better to work together to save it."

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3. @scroogemcduckASF
"8:30 Europe and America complaining about immigrants when they can’t stay out of other people’s countries๐Ÿ˜‚๐Ÿ˜‚"

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4. @blue2mato312
"Generalisations flourish though, last time my country invaded another was in the Viking age."

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5. @baseman2002
"I'm black born in England to Jamaican parents. I remember one time a female white American student did an exchange with another girl from my school. Everyone greeted her and would speak to her. When I went to talk to her she totally blanked me wouldn't acknowledge me at all. She told other students she dont talk to blacks. I was popular at school so many people got angry over that and told her. This ain't racist American and some white girls beat her up. She didn't come back and sent me messages of apology, which I didn't accept. Here most white folk are embarrassed by Caucasian Americans. She flew back to her racist existence."

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6. @LionQueenn
"That’s what she get. Hope she learned her damn lesson. Good job to you and your mates for putting her in her place."

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7.@cathymclaurin4340
"The people in the UK are racist, also..  They are just sneaky with theirs.. The RF and UK media is a prime example.. The way they treated Harry's  wife.. "

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8. @aphoristaemporium123
"Although similar in effect, racism and colour prejudice are not to be conflated. White Americans came, whereas black Americans were enslaved and brought to America. All are US citizens, speaking the same language, but identified by colour. Whereas black American culture is globally emulated, the world view of white America isn't positive and Mr Trump has made it so much worse."

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9.@rachelb1502
"@cathymclaurin4340 there is unfortunately many racists here still...but not all of us...and very very few of us are on the level that we wouldn't even speak to a black person! That's just rude! Not to mention completely impractical in day to day life...

I hate racism...and I love the fact my country is beautifully diverse...I have much respect for the communities that have contributed much to the UK for generations... unfortunately the right wing media doesn't want us to all live together in peace, they'd rather we blame our neighbours for the countries ills rather than the politicians and the Americanisation of the country ๐Ÿ˜”"

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10. @cathymclaurin4340
"@rachelb1502 Not all whites in the US are racist.. Some are and their biased behaviors along with the President are the loudest but all whites in US arent the same..  Just as all blacks aren't.."

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11. @JehSquared
"As an African American active duty Air Force member, living in Paris on a special duty assignment, and traveling extensively throughout Europe, 3 things stood out. 1. European burbs are for the poor.

2. I was never black where ever I went, I was always identified as an American.

3. White Europeans dislike white Americans."

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12. @parrj316
"U.S.Army being stationin germany and south Korea i also was called american.not black not the N-word but american,or crazy american."

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13. @JehSquared
"@parrj316 Being raised in America as a black male, the 1st time I left this country, I could not believe the love I got from foreigners.  Living outside the US was a very big education about life and the world outside mine. I'm blessed and humbled by the experience. ๐Ÿ™๐Ÿพ"

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14. @whoshebe2751
"Me too.. I felt no racism in Europe when I went.. I actually felt better than being in America... shocking right"

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15. @andrealomax9044
"My family has lived/been stationed in Europe off and on for a total of 15 years(3 countries (Germany 4 times, Belgium 1 time and Italy 1 time). I can truly say that Europeans do not love Wytee Amerikkkan like that. They consider them to be arrogant and rude. I have been told by those that I have met that they rather associate with Black people because we come and try to enjoy the visit and learn the culture. Wytee Amerikkkans come in complaining about what they can't get or how they miss Walmart. That's laughable as I heard that with my own ears๐Ÿ˜‚. Our personal experience showed us that other cultures there believe in family time and they promote a much better work-life balance which we appreciated."

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16.  @tonyjones1560
"I heard Americans complaining about speaking German IN GERMANY while I was stationed there (Army, 1987-1989). All these years later, that memory shakes my brain whenever it surfaces.

Meanwhile, I learned to speak some German, carried a dictionary and a phrase book to get past the rough patches and behaved like a guest in somebody else’s house. It helped immensely."

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17. @ChubbBates-mh5xp
"I’m a white English American born in England.Ive been to the US in the past decades ago to visit my distant relatives.Once was enough for me.Most of them were ignorant and thought the sun shone out of the USs arse.England is wholeheartedly better than the US.Especially for mental wellbeing.๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง"

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18. @julianajaxson
"I used to say this. As I travel every year to Europe. They literally tell me that white Americans are stupid… met a banker for germanys bank DB and he did a year of college at Michigan state (a pretty good school) for a finance masters and he said that it was just a social year because everything that was taught to the students were things he learned already years ago. And we started talking about how white Americans are stupid…… oh they know. Since he was in Michigan he also saw the racism and said he didn’t get it at all…… heard along the same thing in France, Greece, Italy and the UK…. Not all of them like black people though.

The feel like Americans are unintellectual and pointless to be around…

From my experiences Europeans were generally really nice to me specifically…every time I go to their countries… there are some that are racists but a lot of those ones aspire to be around white Americans (I.e. they are also dumb and don’t watch the news or anything like that)"

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19. @keith.anthony.infinity.h
"As a Black American person I am multi-generationally mixed. Some of my ancestry goes back to Europe in Germany, Austria, England, and Ireland. I have met some of my White cousins and we get along just fine. I reached out to some distant cousins who have African ancestry in Nigeria, Sierra Leone, and the Congo like me but got no response. Wish me luck"

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20. @SamanthaReed-bs5te
"You'll find that this is a two way street. When black Americans move to African nations they're often met with hostility."

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21. @mgardner70
"I heard it myself. The French have been roasting Americans for years."

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22. @BearArms_Yamasee_James
"Vilhelm Mรฅberg is a Swedish author who wrote an interesting book call "Emigrants"

This book was forbidden in Sweden for a long time because Vilhelm Mรฅberg critized europeans for leaving their countries. He called them traitors but in reality they were starving to death in Europe..!!!

This is why a lot of Swedish people who are Scandinavian and other Europeans fled to the USA in the mid 1850's ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ๐Ÿ˜ฎ.

Minnesota is a typical Swedish settlement in the mid 1850's.

The word Minnesota in Swedish means remember the time..

Minne = remember and sota means suffering..!!! Remember the time of suffering/ starvation in Europe..!!!

I am a black American and I speak and write Swedish fluently.

White Europeans living in Europe will not get along with white Americans too well. I lived abroad for over 35 years and I am telling this story the way it is."

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23. @rachelb1502
"They're just an embarrassment...imagine electing someone like Trump....twice!! Half of them can't even point out Europe on a map anyway...we don't claim them just because they have the same skin colour as us..my allegiance lies with my brothers and sisters in Europe...my brothers and sisters of ALL ethnicities"

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24. @warrenreid6109
"I served with several soilders who were stationed in parts of Europe. They all agree that when they say that they don't like Americans that they are referring to white people who are American"

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@Mel_sunflower
"They go to places with a superiority complex, and are extremely arrogant."  

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26. @blue2mato312
"Excellent video, it is the first one from you I have watched. I’m a white European woman from Norway, and I personally disagree with the reason for not wanting white Americans from the US to come in big numbers to Europe or my country. It is not for competing for resources, we already have many immigrants of different colours including other Europeans moving around. It is the US mentality which we (or I) don’t want, their arrogant ignorance and other problems. The US is very indoctrinated, and they have been since birth for several generations. Their education has fallen spectacularly too. I also don’t want them to bring their racism here, and their kind of politics. Remember, the US right/left parties are a world away from Europeans. Their Democrats would be more close to our rightwing party, their right GOP is an extreme right which actually has no equal in my country (thankfully) because it has descended into pure fascism. We have been through WWII, my grandparents lived it and Norway was ocupied by Nazi Germany. Still many Americans do not understand what this means. It dosen’t matter what colour you are under such a rule, the brutality comes for everyone. My grandmother lost both her brothers taken by the Nazis and sent to die in a German concentrationcamp simply for being a student and the orher having been a part of the labour party. We do not need American exceptionalism and lack of interest in educating themselves about the real world here.

I can however see that in other countries resources such as housing does compound this, like in Spain and Portugal. They are experimcing that Americans with money come and drive up prices for the local population so much that the locals can’t afford to live in their own cities, this will of course bring tension and resentment for people. When you add that white Americans are generally of the idea that they are better than anyone else or not capable or willing to learn the local language it makes it worse. ❤ From Norway
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27. @irenezaleski4989
"Hi! Loved the video. I specifically resonated with what @economyvodka said.
I can only speak of myself, a cis white middle aged woman in Spain with Spanish family on my mom’s side and polish on my dad’s. Fist, I’m not going to lie and say that we don’t have xenophobia or racism here. My sister and I suffered xenophobia, specially while growing up. And we were both born here. It’s better now but the far-right Neo Nat-sis are growing. We still have a lot to unlearn, learn, work on. I, personally, have a problem with US-exceptionalism. As in US is the default, the bestest biggest best, only the US exists and there-be-dragons everywhere else, everyone loves the US, looks up to the US, desires to be USian and AMERICA (the US) is our messiah, our god and saviour. We are fighting to build community, learn and secure our culture, because as @economyvodka said we are losing it to capitalism. We have regional differences even in our own countries (as people in different states in the US). What angers me is whyte Americans that don’t even bother to learn the real History and Culture of their own country so much less their ancestors history or culture. We have some of those too, but they have to actively put their head in the sand and put their fingers in their ears, refusing to hear and learn what it is the real History and culture. It’s specifically maddening which the internet and social media. I’m the daughter of an immigrant and the granddaughter of refugees. I live in a region of Spain that has a HUGE history of emigration. There’s even a saying about it: you can find a Galician anywhere in the world and a TV show called Galicians around the world. Our parents always taught us that it’s enriching and that widens cultures. I wouldn’t like to welcome a whyte American that not only thinks that us, our history, our regional differences and our culture are beneath them. When they already feel that way with their own country. Do they know the actual native nations that lived in what’s now their town? Do they know about what was happening during the civil rights movement in their state? Do they have knowledge about the concentration camps during WWII? Do they know that The ones in the Mayflower were religious extremists that when flying persecution and being offered shelter and acceptance in a very open minded country they were SO upset to not be able to force their beliefs that they charted the Mayflower to go to Turtle Island and convert and grab the land of people that they didn’t value as people, just as what we now would understand as NPC guides and suppliers of resources. And if they are going to reclaim their Irishness for example do they try to learn about the Famine, The Troubles, the mythology, Gaelic? I was 20 when the Good Friday Agreement was signed, its not ancient history. That’s why non-white Americans are usually treated better. I also understand that we started this ๐Ÿ’ฉ first. And as I can totally understand people from former Spanish colonies moving to Spain, I can understand that we might need to handle some of those whyte Americans. It’s that I just prefer a farmer’s son, a scholar, anyone from Equatorial Guinea than a MAGA-hat. It’s obvious which one is safer to be around"... ** 28. @parrj316
"I been reading about the black men in ww1 the harlem hell fighters. The  french. Forces was asking for reinforcement.so the american General name blackjack Percey gave him all the blacks.the french command treated the black soilders humans.the black soilders was wrting home telling thier families they have to look in the mirror to see if they were still black.but the american did not like the way the black solider was being treated.the american command said the blacks have places and must be kept there. In England a place called burma bridge.where the white soliders still wanted jim crow laws.the english people put up signs saying black troops only.in germany after ww2 the american command said no soliders are allowed to mixing with germany women.when black solider who did get caught they were kart martial and dishonorable discharge.in 1948 truman desegregate the military."

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29. @VenusianSanctuary
"As a black British woman I can tell you for a FACT you should class British w COMMON women in the same ranking as COMMON American w women category. EDUCATED w Britain women have NEVER brought any strange energy my way. Unfortunately I have experienced r-cism from the common/chav working class communities in the work place."

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30. @lg_NoFear
"You guys sure love to give Europe a pass. The USA has helped Europe continue to take from Africa. They helped Belgium with Congo. They have been helping the French."

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