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Thursday, February 22, 2024

Why Is Country Music Considered White Music? (2019 Huffingon Post video, article excerpt, & video comments)


HuffPost. Jul 16, 2019

Country music was born out of the black American experience. And yet, while black artists from Beyonce to Lil Nas X have written important country songs, country music is still considered by many to be mostly a space for white artists. Exploring the complicated racial legacy of country music reveals why the genre often goes from being a musical form to a vehicle for difficult conversations around race and identity.
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ARTICLE EXCERPT: WHY IS COUNTRY MUSIC CONSIDERED SO WHITE

Country music is deeply rooted in the black American experience, and yet the genre hasn't quite lost its original racial designation.

By Isaac Himmelman, July 17, 2019

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/country-music-black-artists_n_5d2de760e4b085eda5a25516

..."Music scholars often acknowledge the black musical influence on country music chords, pointing out things like the African origin of the banjo and the genre’s deep roots in blues music.

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“Country music is a stand-in for a lot of conversations that we are too often afraid to have, or even when we want to have them, we don’t necessarily have the language to do so effectively,” said Charles Hughes, a music scholar and the director of the Lynne and Henry Turley Memphis Center at Rhodes College.

For example, when Beyoncé performed her song “Daddy Lessons” at the 2016 Country Music Association Awards alongside the Dixie Chicks, she faced backlash from some country fans who called into question her country bona fides. This further sparked the conversation around which artists get to call themselves “country,” and perhaps more to the point, which artists don’t.

“A lot of folks really celebrated [the CMA performance], not just as a really cool example of what country music could sound like, but also as potentially a symbol of the changing — or, at least, loosening — boundaries, in terms of who and what gets to be country,” Hughes said. At the same time, “the moment created that same old anger that we’ve seen too often about ... what country music is supposed to represent in terms of race, in terms of gender, in terms of a certain kind of identity.”

Country music’s association with white identity goes back not just to the beginning of country music, but to the beginning of musical genre itself, Hughes said.

Starting in the 1920s, at the dawn of the recorded music industry and at the height of the Jim Crow era, record companies began marketing genres like gospel and blues specifically to black audiences as “race music” or “race records.”

The record industry marketed and promoted and created a language about the music from the beginning, and this continues through this day in some way, in which whiteness is, if not on the surface, then right below it.”

- Charles Hughes, music scholar

Meanwhile, white audiences were sold country music — or, as it was originally called, “hillbilly music.” The genre was musically and thematically rooted in the black American experience, and yet, it “was very explicitly thought of as being the music of white southerners or white folks who had recently moved out of the south into northern or western cities,” Hughes said.

Despite the work of black country artists like Charley Pride or Ray Charles’ seminal country album “Modern Sounds in Country and Western Music,” the genre has never quite lost its original racial designation.

“The record industry marketed and promoted and created a language about the music from the beginning, and this continues through this day in some way, in which whiteness is, if not on the surface, then right below it,” Hughes said.

Still, there is reason to believe the genre could be changing. A new crop of diverse artists, including Jimmie Allen and Kane Brown, are making waves on the country music charts.".
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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6VIRtikKEnw&t=477s

1. @_Peremalfait, 2020
"If you listen to early recordings of blues and country there's very little difference one from the other except for the race of the musicians. So that's probably your answer right there. Segregation. Black and white musicians borrowed from one another all the time, listening to each other over the radio, but were not allowed to play together or collaborate."

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2. @vr6535, 2020
"Buna I wrote my senior thesis on the origins of country music. Country was folk and brought of by slaves on the ships; and your right the blues melted with the mountain folk (hillbillies) who played banjos in south. It eventually evolved into Opry style and influenced Tejano music in Texas/Mexico. It’s all combines :)"

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@damuni1,2020
"@vr6535  So based on your research for your senior thesis, did Irish, Scottish, English and Welsh folk music had minor influence in the development of country music compared to African folk music? Or how would you allot the percentages of influence?"

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4. @_s827, 2020
"@damuni1  hi, I play early country music ("old time music", the Appalachian fiddle and banjo stuff and ballad singing that evolved from the Irish music you're excited about). Country music was developed from fiddle/banjo stringband music after the coming of recording companies and radio in approx the 1930's.  That fiddle/banjo music is absolutely a hybrid of European and African music styles and instruments, and absolutely no one (except ignorant angry people on the internet in 2020) disputes that. 

The most important and unfortunate part of the story of that music is that when recording companies arrived on the scene, they artificially segregated Southern music into white "hillbilly music" (the name for country before they called it country) and "race records" (blues and  everything else related to folk music played by Black people). Eventually Black fiddling and banjo playing died down substantially due to lack of support from the recording, radio, and entertainment industry. There is ENDLESS oral history from musicians of all races from the South that indicates that the removal of Black musicians from the 'country' category was artificially induced by the recording industry that eventually created country music."

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5. @shepglennon8760, 2022
" @damuni1  it's also important to note that AP Carter, Johnny Cash, Hank Williams, and Jimmie Rodgers, the first and second generations of country music Mt Rushmore, all were mentored by Black artists."

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6. @shepglennon8760, 2022
"Dead Bear, if it's so Celtic then why did AP Carter and Jimmie Rodgers, Hank Williams Sr and Johnny Cash all have Black mentors?"

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7. @veridicusmaximus6010, 2020
"It's considered so white because that is who the majority musicians are - Duh!"

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8. 
@sunflowerz54, 2021
"Oh for Pete sake have you ever heard of Charlie pride!!!"

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9. @majesticalshimmer6105, 2021
"Dude country music isn't tied to race i know many black folks who love country music"

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10. @k.8297, 2022
"Black people and old timers in general HAVE ALWAYS KNOWN that COUNTRY MUSIC WAS AN AFRICAN AMERICAN INVENTION! Once again, white americans who seek to white-wash american history WILL ALWAYS DENY THIS TRUTH, but we KNOW OUR HISTORY and country WAS NEVER WHITE to begin with, but was APPROPRIATED like everything else in America! Was not Elvis' "Hound Dog" ORIGINALLY Recorded by Big Mama Thornton A BLACK WOMAN back in 1952? Elvis was singing the COVER SONG of a black woman the ENTIRE TIME, but they LET YOU THINK it was originally his... Black and Indigenous People of America KNOW OUR HISTORY! Do you know yours???'

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11. @NoBody-pf2nv,2023
" "You can't talk about music without talking about race." What nonsense.

Why is it always that "educated" scholars at university have to conflate race and identity with the very things that unite us all the most? There is nothing to gain from it.

The only thing it allows is for is the justification to force a group of people to hate themselves or their ancestors and be sorry for something they have no control over.

Disliked."

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12. 
@DaRegime, 2023
"Literally the entire society we live in was founded and groomed on the basis of race and identity. Everything done/most of the things we have today was influenced by black people in some shape or form. This is NOT to say White folk aren't talented and don't contribute because they are/absolutely do contribute, and I would never discredit them. But thats literally the point, white people in these mediums have erased the black identity, or rather DNA, and claimed it as solely their own. That's the issue. That's always been the issue, and it should not be forgotten/not discussed so easily. Have nothing but love for you, but these types of videos need to be out there and people have to stop being so angry when faced with the truth."

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13. @gregcager2, 2024
"Black people already know country music came from us my grandfather loves him some lightnin hopkins and if u listen to him u can't get  no country than that it just the record company call it the blues, country music to me it just the white  man blues and like everything in America especially back then  blacks start something whites redo it call it something else rock and roll and country music have there foundation in the blues.

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