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Thursday, October 15, 2020

Dance Scene In The 1990 Movie "House Party" & Comments About The Changes In African American House Parties And Clubbing Since The 1980s/1990s


ValleW, July 11, 2007

Kid N Play - House Party - "Ain't my type of hype"

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcase a YouTube clip of the 1990 American movie House Party and presents information about that movie.

This post also presents select comments from that YouTube video about African American dancing at house parties and (night) clubs in the 1980s and 1990s.

I've also added a comment in this post's discussion thread about the various ways that commenters indicated that they agreed with another comment (such as "facts", "ikr", and "word". 

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural and entertainment purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those involved with the House Party (Part I) movie and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT HOUSE PARTY (Part 1)
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_Party_(film)
"House Party is a 1990 American comedy film released by New Line Cinema. It stars Kid and Play of the popular hip hop duo Kid 'n Play, 

[...]

Plot
In their high-school cafeteria, Peter, also known as "Play" announces to his friends Christopher aka "Kid" Robinson, Jr., and Bilal that he will be having a party at his house that night, as his parents are on vacation. The reluctant Bilal is to be the DJ.

[...]

The party is in full swing when Kid finally arrives. Kid and Play soon get into a dance contest with attractive girls Sydney and Sharane, then have a quick freestyle* battle.


Sequels
The film was a popular success, and two sequels were made: House Party 2 in 1991; and House Party 3 in 1994. House Party 2 features Lawrence and Campbell reprising their roles from the first film; the two would begin starring in the TV sitcom Martin the following year. House Party 3 features hip hop/R&B groups TLC and Immature in supporting roles. In 2001, Immature (now going by IMx) starred in a direct-to-video sequel, House Party 4: Down to the Last Minute, which does not feature any of the original cast from the other three films. A fifth installment and direct follow-up to the third film, titled House Party: Tonight's the Night was filmed in 2012 with Tequan Richmond, Zac Goodman, Tristin Mays, Alex McGregor, Rolonda Watts and Gary Anthony Williams. The film was a direct to DVD release in 2013, and also marked the return of Kid 'n Play to the series."...

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THE DISCUSSION THREAD FOR THIS EMBEDDED VIDEO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l5PFs2eTc&ab_channel=ValleW

Some of these comments include my explanatory notes, or notes from online sources.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.

1. Jordan Clemons, 2016

"if you go to a party these days, all the chicks in the corner taking pics for Instagram"

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2. 
Chris Bano, 2016
"
Also taking selfies all the time, the girls would be typing on thier phones facebook crap, the men would just stare like zombies then talk on thier phones, LOL"

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3. 
LadySeraphineCC, 2016

"πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ I won't lie.. I'll take a few pics.. but for real.. I'd rather dance.. πŸ‘Œ"

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4. 
Bruce Alexander, 2017
"
I feel you"
-snip-
"I feel you" is an African American Vernacular English term that means "I feel the same way (about what you just wrote or said). 

I compiled a list of other examples of AAVE terms of agreement from this discussion thread and added it to the discussion thread below. 

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5. 
Elle Vee, 2018 
"
facts"

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6. 
Vintage Donny 1990, 2018
"
Not Only That They Be Holding The Wall And Miss Every 2-3 Songs That DJ Playing And Still No Movement Like It Was Used To Be"

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7. 
K Supreme, 2018
"
Jordan Clemons and complaining about they’re feet hurting"

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8. 
Lia John, 2018
"
πŸ€£πŸ˜‚"

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9. 
tslmiami, 2018
"
Jordan Clemons you’re right. Even in the hottest clubs in Miami they are just taking selfies and posting pics.  That’s it"

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10.
Pink Realtalk, 2018
"A
nd all the guys posted up with their homeboys"

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11. 
Nesta Parks, 2018
"
There should be a club or party where cell phones aren't allowed. If they are it's only one or two people that can take pictures. Technology has taken away basic fun when it comes to living in the moment."

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12. Tricie W, 2019
"
FACTS πŸ‘πŸΏπŸ‘πŸΏπŸ‘πŸΏ"

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13. 
Is 2020 Over Yet?!, 2020
"
And weave down to the floor."
-snip-
"weave" = "hair extensions", often worn as multiple braids (referring to females' hairstyles)

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14. 
Adrasica Mcmahon, 2019
"
I take over dance floors wherever I go. Lol Even if I'm the only one dancing."

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15. 
Lady Leo, 2019
"
Jordan Clemons the dudes as well. nowadays dude post more selfie‘s than chicksπŸ€³πŸ½πŸ“ΈπŸ’―"

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16. 
DeonSavage, 2019
"
that funny but it true"

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17. 
Acatchison, 2019
"
Sad"

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18. 
Peezy, 2019
"
@Chante J it's a shame u made this comment three years ago and it's gotten even worse since then. Damn this world sucks now"

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19. M
r. Blow Ya Whistle, 2019
"They sitting their ass down all stuck up n sh-t*
-snip-
*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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20. 
stand4truth07, 2019
"
Last party I went too, the dudes was snap chatting and instagramming as much as the women πŸ˜‚πŸ€·πŸΎ♀"

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21. Jayru Da damaga, 2020
"
Jordan Clemons today’s parties and nothing compared to years of 80 90"

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22. 
Rock the Artist, 2020
"
Factz lol"

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23. 
Denise Gill, 2020
"
Right people boring these days.πŸ˜’"

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24. 
Grace U, 2020
"
maybe b/c i'm old, but if this song comes on, my ass is leaving the corner and finding someone to do the kid n play dance with!!! Lol"

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25. 414MrMilwaukee, 2017
"
No violence

No drama

Just fun, laughter, dance and music

 

!!!!LOVE THE 90s!!!"

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26. 
gacaptain, 2018
"
Alright now. Yeah the 90's where great but let's be real. I went to plenty of partys in the same time period as this movie where there wound up being crews smashing the place and each other up. In New York you had to worry about hard knocks robbing you for your jacket or shoes and even slicing your face with a razor blade. And yes there were shootings too."

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27. 
Auto Young, 2018
"
Yeah, you better have not had on a Raiders STARTER jacket or damn near ANY STARTER jacket or you was getting jacked..."
-snip-
Here's some information about Starter jackets from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Starter_(clothing_line)
"Starter, Inc. is an American clothing manufacturer, focusing of major league sports teams. Starter's current licenses include MLB, NBA, NFL, and NHL teams. Non-sports agreements include a partnership with Coca-Cola.[3][4]

Starter got notability in the early 1990s with its licensed jackets of the main professional sports leagues in the US. That jackets became iconic and a status symbol of that era.[5] Apart from jacquets, some of the products currently manufactured by Starter include casual wear (t-shirts, hoodies, sweatpants, leggins, socks) and accessories (bags, hats)."...

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28. Asap Churro, 2018
"
Was this a show ?"

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29. 
Philip Hansen, 2018
"
it was a movie called house party"

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30. 
boricuafrican, 2020
"
@Gammaraytrey it's a movie based off of how life was then..."

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31. pornoonsteroids, 2018

"414MrMilwaukee trust me there was drama and violence in the 90s"

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32. 
Lou Rivera, 2018
"
“No violence” “No drama” LOL

Literally the scene before the this full force was chasing these fools up the street looking to kick they ass."

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33. Brad, 2018
"
Lmao. Not until Full Force showed up and damn near burned the house down..."

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34. gacaptain, 2018
"
LOL Yeah then they tried to "Bum Rush" the party and almost set the house on fire after they got stopped from coming in."

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35. 
mr. Wldasoldmysoul4pussyasateen, 2018
"
414MrMilwaukee gotta take the nostalgia goggles off homie lol"

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36. 
MKE Jazz, 2018
"
Lol there's always that one, looking at the past through rose colored glasses. Crips and Bloods, Rodney King riots, war on drugs etc. I dunno what fake ass early 90s you remember but it definitely wasn't just "fun laughter dance and music."
-snip-
"Crips and Bloods" = the name of two rival gangs

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37. 
Sharon Easley, 2018
"
There may have been violence and drama, but kids had fun like kids were suppose to.  Now,  everything is technology obsessed."

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38. 
Ray Ray, 2019
"
When parties were parties and people weren’t buried in their smartphones looking for “LIKES” due to their insecurities πŸ‘ˆπŸ½πŸ™„"

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39. 
Detail Enthusiast, 2019
"
Truth"

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40. 
Soccer As We Like It - The Manutd Direction, 2020
"
You are so right, now you go to clubs they either stand take pictures and do absolutely nothing , taking up dance space , then people actually dressed up to clubs and danced hard core, miss the late 80's and 90's"

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41. 
Lionel Kennedy, 2020
"
Exactly.  Everybody was present in the moment and having a good time.  Back when it was normal to make eye contact with a lady you liked and it never felt awkward.  Walking up and talking to her was natural.  She actually smiled and showed personality instead of being standoffish."

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42. 
Zee_ LolaJ, 2020
"
U PREACHIN!!!!"

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43. 
Ladell Turner, 2020
"
I miss the 90s house party scene. Good times!"

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44. 
jamel Weems, 2019
"
WHEN DUDES WOULD PUT THAT WORK IN ON THE DANCE FLOOR!!!!"

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45. 
Raymond Greaves, 2020
"
No Cell Phones"

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46. 
Kayshawn Simmons, 2020
"
Ikr,"

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47. 
Lionel Kennedy, 2020
"
Sweating like a mug.  We were in there!!"

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48. 
Kemari Johnson, 2020
"
We dont got rhythm like yall do ok,"

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49. 
Jay Barnes, 2020
"L
ionel Kennedy sweat them clothes out"

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50. 
Jon Summers, 2020
"
And that was the early 90s"

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51. 
OzzieM, 2020
"
Yes sir...."

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52. 
The Evil Ascot Company, 2020
"
It was the 90s, no cellphones, video games were kinda boring, no online porn: guys had nothing else to do but play sports and dance."

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53. 
D Weez, 2020
"
Don’t get it twisted, the sistas OWN the floor fam"

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54. 
Ash G, 2019
"
This will forever be an untouchable classic scene!!"

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55. 
Tammy Mathews, 2020
"
CLASSIC MOVIE!!!!"

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56. 
Walter Randall, 2020
"
Agree, coming to America,  house party 1 and 2"

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57. 
Supreme Wavee, 2019
"
Back when you had to debate on  staying home and be bored or sneak out and go this bomb party and get a ass beating when you get back, but it was all worth it πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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58. tootzie26, 2020
"
🀣🀣🀣facts"

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59. R
obbi Rob, 2020
"
Truth πŸ’―man good ol' days."

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60. 
Natasha Jean, 2020
"
And in the movie at the end kid actually did get his ass whoop by his father for staying out all night!! Lol!!"
-snip-
"Kid" was the light skinned African American with the high top fade hairstyle.

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61. 
Rich Lucas, 2020
"
Str8 factsπŸ’―"

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62. 
LaKara Childers, 2020
"
Facts πŸ’―"

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63. 
Joseph Gonsoulin, 2020
"
Supreme Wavee THIS PARTY WAS DEFINITELY WORTH THE ASS WHOOPIN"

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64. 
Emilia Fayed, 2020
"
Supreme Wavee I got beat up many many times ... good old days ... parties in New York .. the bomb πŸ’£πŸ˜πŸ˜πŸ˜"

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65. 
ima king, 2020
"
FACKZ!! Had to make that decision once or twice myself back in the day lol!"

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66. 
Fave Less, 2019
"
I love how when competition stopped they just started dancing together πŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎ"

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67. 
Marcus Reed, 2020
"
Ikr"

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68. 
Raymond Greaves, 2020
"
SWITCH!"
-snip- 

This was the call the DJ made to switch (change) dance partners.
I remember this being done at parties in the 1960s in New Jersey.  

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69. 
Biggie The What, 2020
"
Just for the record, Kid n Play won the dance battle."

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70. 
773Mr.Chicago Illinois60653, 2019
"
Notice how Bilal say "Switch " he right on beat"

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71. 
Makaveli 803, 2019
"
Kid: A yo Bilal switch again!!

 

Bilal: catching a vibe dance to the beat

 

Kid: Come on man switch!!

 

Bilal: Still dancing to the beat

 

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚ he was petty for that"

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72. 
Michael Gibbons, 2019
"
Kid’s kick moves were silky smooth... this movie always gives me nostalgia and takes me back to a simpler time"

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73. 
Roger Cook, 2019
"
It was said that they did this dance scene with out any music. In the edit room is where they put the music in. That is a true fact. And now you know."

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74. 
Ron Lawray, 2020
"
@roger cook...."IT was said" by WHO? Prove the dance scene was done without music....l say there was music, now who is right?

No one has ever heard of a dance scene being done with no music for them. And a house full of people ?

Puulleezz!"

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75.  Aquarian Beauty, 2020
"Yes I heard this is true, and AJ Johnson choreographed the female dance scene πŸ’ƒπŸΎ"

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76. Roger Cook, 2020
"
My brother my brother my brother, let me school you. When I make a statement I check my facts first. I don't make statements just to get attention. I also been in music, playing and writing for all of my life. (I thank you Lord for my gift). So the statement I made was true. I need you to use your imagination right about now. They could have simply used a drum beat to stay on beat. Have you ever thought about that? When I come up with a idea for a song, the first 2 things I come up with is the melody and the rhythm. I may do the whole rhythm track from start to finish. The melody is still in my head. So with that in mind, lets get back to the movie clip. All they did is inserted the music track when they got it in the editing room. You got it now? My brother. Lol"

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77. 
Balance and Composure, 2019
"
I remember practicing this whole scene with my cousin lol we had it down Pat! Everybody too cool to have fun now smh"

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78.  Kim T, 2019
"Born in the 70' s grew up in the 80's and 90's era! The best time,  generation, music,  clothes and experiences. No social media, FB, Instagram! Vinyl 45' 's and 8 track cassettes, walkmans, radios! Awwww miss that era!"


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79. 
Soccer As We Like It - The Manutd Direction, 2020
"
we dubbed mix tapes from each , with  dual cassette player , lol, put in a blank cassette Tape and record from your friends Cassette lol"

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80. 
Lionel Kennedy, 2020
"
@Soccer As We Like It - The Manutd Direction We did that every weekend.  Yo man .. Let me borrow that so I can dub it!  LMAO.  We used to record our favorite songs off the radio onto a Memorex πŸ˜†"

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81. 
miss trise, 2019
"
When men used to dance to get a womans attention......love this"

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82. 
Prince Slice, 2020
"
miss trise now they wait for women to dance first lol🀦🏽‍♂️"

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83. 
Shortblock Flexinit, 2020
"
A man being a good dancer got my number everytime! Those were fun times."

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84. 
Freddy B, 2020
"
If you could dance women was DEFINITELY checking for you!!"

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85. 
Kayshawn Simmons, 2020
"Yes!"

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86. 
Lionel Kennedy, 2020
"
If you had the moves, you got the digits.  Hygiene had to be on point too, of course."
-snip-
"Got the digits" here means "got the girl's phone number."

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87. 
Lionel Kennedy, 2020
"@Kayshawn Simmons I feel for you young guys nowadays.  I think we had it easier.  As long as you were cool, dressed halfway decent, could dance good and didn't have body odor .. you could get play from chicks."

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88. 
Kayshawn Simmons, 2020
"
@Lionel Kennedy LOL,"

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89. 
mrgoodbar216, 2020
"
miss trise in my day we sang to get the ladies attention"

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90. 
miss trise, 2020
"@
mrgoodbar216 hey now that's what I'm talking bout"

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91. 
EJae Online, 2020

"Mane this was when parties used to be lit and actually fun now a day it’s just people sitting around on their phones with trap music and no one dancing"
-snip-
"Mane" here  is a vernacular form of the word "man"

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92. Ms. Smith, 2020
"
That girl kid was dancing wit was cute. I never understood why he was a jerk"

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93. 
jaybethatdude, 2020
"
He just wanted Tisha's character, her and her girl were the "it" girls and he wanted her."
-snip-
"Tisha" is the real nickname for the lead actress [Tisha Campbell] who wore a yellow halter top and yellow biker shorts. 

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94. 
Mount Swervemore, 2020
"
A time when you and the homies would choreograph dance sequences on your free time just in case you had to kill it at a house party dance off...Has this ever happened in real life? Not sure, but I wish I can go to that time and place."

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95. 
Lucy Dean, 2020
"
On the regular. Born in 77. My friends and I would practice dance moves after school and make up whole routines for dance parties... it was never just in case. If there was a dance party there was for sure going to be a dance battle! The great thing was, at the end of the night, all things being equal, there wasn't any bad blood. (Except that one couple who kept breaking up and making up...you all knew them...a fight every time they interacted. )"

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96. 
jaybethatdude, 2020
"
say word, i was born in the mid 60's, and the 70's and 80's were the ish. The 80's in particular is my favorite era, we had those real house parties, the girls were so feminine, sexy and shy. And we(guys) didn't have to compete with females for the females lol. And the music was the best."

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97.
Dean Scott, 2020
"
Back when brothas went to the house party DRESSED---not wearin a $4 t-shirt with their underwear hangin out the back of some saggin pants"

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98. 
Gunnel Gainey, 2020
"
That's what in saying men dont even dress up anymore"
-snip-
I think that the word "in" is a typo for "I'm" and that sentence is supposed to be "That's what I'm saying".

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99. 
noktilux, 2020
"
You just made my day.

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100. 
Gunnel Gainey, 2020
"
@noktilux men use to dress up in business clothes back then,for fashion idk what happened

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101. 
nywcrules, 2020
"
In addition Dean Scott, when women weren't showing too much skin."

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102. 
Dean Scott, 2020
"
@nywcrules word!"

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103. 
Diplamatik Juan, 2020
"
Man, you're right...what happened to us?"

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104. 
Dean Scott, 2020
"@Diplamatik Juan dress codes fell off! 25yrs ago you couldn't even get in the clubs with jeans on"

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105. 
Juanita Peters, 2020
"
Idk about the 4 dollar t shirts... People come wearing their rent πŸ˜‚ but it do be t shirt and Jean's"

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106. 
Dean Scott, 2020
"@
Juanita Peters Hanes t-shirts come in a pack of 3 for $12, thats what these young boys wear to the parties now"

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107. 
jaybethatdude, 2020
"
The "House Party" movies are among my favorite movies ever, and this scene is my favorite of all the "House Party" movies. I get sad sometimes as i watch this scene, because i grew up in the 70's and 80's when we had house parties, before the clubs became a thing. And those good times are gone. If i could jump into a movie and live within it, it'd be this movie lol."

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108. 
Tresean Cann, 2020
"Ikr I mean, what happened ?"

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109. 
Kenan Conley, 2020
"
I was born in 1972. I will admit I tried (and failed) so many times to get the kick moves right. It was fun trying though.

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110. 
medjdt97, 2020
"
This will never get old. Boy how I miss those days back then."

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1 comment:

  1. For the cultural record, here are the African American Vernacular English words that commenters in this discussion thread used which indicated that they agreed with what another commenter had just written:

    These examples are given in no particular order, except that "facts" was definitely used the most in the comments in this pancocojams compilation and in other comments from that discussion thread that aren't included in this compilation.

    1. facts
    2. FACKZ
    3. str8t facts
    4. ikr
    -snip-
    [I know. That's right.]
    5. word
    6. say word
    7. right
    7. that's right/you're right
    8. exactly
    9. Yes!
    10. yes sir
    11. truth
    12. I feel you

    The comments "Now that's what I'm talking about!" and "You have just made my day" can also be considered statements of agreement with what was just written.

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