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Monday, September 7, 2020

"Nobody Wanna See Us Together" (South African struggle song associated with the 2015/206 Fees Must Fall movement)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest Update: Nov. 14, 2022

This pancocojams post showcases three YouTube video of the 
South African song "Nobody Wanna See Us Together", a struggle song that is associated with South Africa's university students 2015 and 2016 "Fees Must Fall" movement. 

Some of this song's lyrics and other comments from these YouTube videos are also included in this post.

This post also includes some definitions of South African slang terms and other sayings that are included in some of these comments.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2020/09/south-africas-fees-must-fall-student.html
for a pancocojams post that presents information about South Africa's Fees Must Fall protest movement and information about struggle songs in the Fees Must Fall movement.

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The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks also to all those who were involved in the Fees Must Fall movement and thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and to thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEOS & COMMENTS

Video #1: Nobody wanna see us together



Mbulelo Ngqobe, January 22, 2015
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Selected comments with numbers added for referencing purposes only:

1. Chulumanco Macingwane, 2016
"this is one of the SICKEST I've ever heard"
-snip-
"Sickest" here is an African American Vernacular English term meaning "the best".

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2. 
tiisetso kekana, 2017

"Eish! (pron. /aysh/ but also, less often, as /ish/) – A term of resignation; Used to express everything ranging from frustration to surprise to disapproval, but also just everyday acknowledgment of things you can’t change like “Eish, the traffic is bad today”. Heard frequently each and every day! Also used to indicate displeasure, for example: “Eish, what’s going on here?”"


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3. 
Zamabhida, 2018
"on a serious note.. who's this guy mara"
"Mara (pron. \mah-rah\) – but (eg. ‘mara why?’ – ‘but why?) [from the Afrikaans word ‘maar’ meaning ‘but’]"

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4. T T Digoamaje, 2018
"Abednego Mosiatlhaga"

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5. Snehlanhla Makua, 2018
"nobody wanna see us together that is the truth"

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6. Lora beatx, 2018
"Wow ☺😊inspiring"

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7. Amogelang Leshabane, 2 018
"this actually reminded me of high school sports trips πŸ˜₯❤"

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8. 
gabriel banda, 2018
"the guy leading the group iz just amazing and this is really good for team bond"

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9. Jamaul Joseph, 2018
"This is absolutely Amazing!!!! Just a casual, on the fly jam session.....but soooo good!"

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10. Angelo Martins> 2019
"
Thanks for the SA women's soccer team for introducing me to the world of "igwijo"."
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"Nobody Wanna See Us Together" is a Fees Must Fall struggle song. Some struggle songs are sung as gwijos.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2020/09/online-information-about-south-african.html for a pancocojams post on gwijos ("amagwijos"; "igwijos")
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11. Lesego Ranyabu Ledwaba, 2020
"Then it's 2020 I am back again.. His voice brought me backπŸ˜‚ πŸ’₯πŸ’₯😍🀩 Everytime when I am down I come here" **
12. wandile Brian, 2020
"Just search "Stellenbosch Singing" you get more videos of him singing"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellenbosch_University
"Stellenbosch University is a public research university situated in Stellenbosch, a town in the Western Cape province of South Africa. Stellenbosch is the oldest university in South Africa"...
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13. Mbasa Dyantyi, 2020
"The guy leading the song play for Ajax CPT now I think. I recognise his face"
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"Ajax Cape Town" is a South African professional football  [soccer] club. 

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Video #2: FMF 2016 Nobody wanna see us together - Yamkela Gola ft Wits Students



Paulos Lekala Marutha, Oct 14, 2016

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Selected comments with numbers added for referencing purposes only:

1. Mzokhona Nkala, 2017

"what I love about South Africans even if they are under oppression they always sing and dance. this song is the best struggle song so far"

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2. BONKE XAKATHA, 2017
"
Wow the Talent and the Creativity at its best while protesting..wow"

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3. jnrndlovu15, 2017
"amazing collab yamkela Gola & wits students.
list of songs in order:

1) Akon - dont matter (nobody wanna see us together

2) Rebecca malope - my mother

3) Mafikizolo - masthokoze

4) Chris Brown - don't judge me

5) Bob Marley - buffalo soldier

#FeesMustFall
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This comment lists the titles of the records whose lyrics are excerpted to make the song "Nobody Wanna See Us Together".

Notice the international sources for these songs. Akon is a Senegalese American singer. Rebecca Malope and Mafikizolo are South African singers, Chris Brown is an African American singer, and Bob Marley is a Jamaican singer.

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4. Kagiso Sekgothudi, 2017
"
Is the portion at 1:00 a popular song?"

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5. REPLY
DIDINTLE SECHOGELA, 2017
"
yes i think its a song by mafikizolo"

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6. Yolanda Radebe, 2017
"
Kagiso Sekgothudi mas'thokoze is the name of the song I think"

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7. 
Mzo Mnikathi, 2017
"he was a buffalo soldier  dread lock rasta stolen from Africa brought to america"

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8. Mamla Tomson, 2019
"That is my favourite part 😍😭😭"

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9. Sphume TheBlaqMirror, 2017
"Babaningi babaningi abantu
!!!  aaah man love being South African!"

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10. Tshepo Sepadile, 2020
"
Babaningi abantu, babaningi abantu
Bengidlel' umona
Beth' uzongishiya
Wena' uzongilahla..."
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Google translate from Zulu to English"
“There are many people, there are many people
I was jealous
Beth will leave me
You 'will forsake me”

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11. makumbi k2, 2017
"
we (students )of this country will achieve free education in our life time"

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12. Xolani Themba, 2017
"
hahahaha I that part "no please don't judge me etc and he was a Buffalo soldier born from africa ayayababa ayayababa"

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13. lytidoro, 2017
"One of the sickest Song of Fees must fall , So far"

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14. Nqobile Hadebe, 2017
"I'm watching this because i got an assignment that needs a touch on Fees Must Fall and damn the front guy completely made me lose my focus... the assignment will have to wait! cant stop myself from watching this!!! :) :D"

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15. dzeep ndlovu, 2017
"One will day we will inherit this continent, the struggle must stay strong....aluta..we still slaves, we just transformed to modern day slaves."
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From http://africaaccessreview.org/2017/04/38715/#:~:text=Aluta%2C%20a%20word%20used%20by,later%20against%20harsh%20African%20regimes.

"Aluta, a word used by many Africans to mean “struggle for freedom and liberation” comes from the Portugeuse phase, “A luta continua, Vitoria e certa”- the struggle continues, victory is certain. The word was commonly chanted during protests against colonial oppressors and later against harsh African regimes. College students throughout Africa shouted Aluta! during peaceful demonstrations and movements of mass resistance."...

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16. 
Mpumalanga Zwane, 2017
""Let me tell you about the story of my life" with  this video, I watched it many times and keep coming back"

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17. Vanesa Khorombi, 2017
"I think i have a crush on this guy...Lord mercy upon me...#crushing"

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18. CHUSTA, 2017
"who watched this more than once n started to sign along ??"

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19. Sue Ndlovu, 2018
"i love this song i made sure i know the lyrics"

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20. Motlhalefi Christopher Ramotsebe, 2018
"looool, im still working on that"

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21, savage Rossy, 2018
"
this guy can sing yoooh bathong❤❤❤πŸ˜₯πŸ˜₯"
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I think that "yoh" ("iyoh") is a South African exclamation of surprise and/or an exclamation of appreciation and approval that is similar to the English word "wow".


Google translate from Zulu to English: "bathong"="people"

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22. Keorapetse Radibe, 2018
"
Oh nkosi yam! This song just evokes emotions that I can't even describe. Aluta! What started in 2015 by the name of # FMF was not in vain. We will arrive at the promised land, maybe not today, not Tomorrow but ultimately we will...I am proud to be a Wits student but I am even prouder of being part of the youth-we were called for such a time as this. As for you Yamkela-ae suka mahn comrade Zahara, u are doing the things!  Ayabayabayabayabayabaya"
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From 
https://www.indifferentlanguages.com/translate/zulu-english/oh_nkosi_yami
"oh nkosi yam= oh my goodness" (oh my Lord)

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23. Tshepo Mashabela, 2018
"We are the fees must Fall GenerationπŸ™Œ"

obed mabuse, 2018
"
You gotta love SA❤✊😒
ISH Africa unite#Mzabalazo#"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: Mzabalazo= The struggle

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24. Buhle Bongo, 2017
"I use to say these kids if they dnt want to study they must go home but after watching this video I couldn't hold the tears in my eyes the pain of swing South African kids fighting for their rights.

Fight until you get what you want......these fat cats are wasting money with useless things some of graduates are jobless and the interest of their Nsfas loan is growing every year.when they get job they will be working for Nsfas...............I know the feeling that you are going through.....keep on fighting we are behind u zintsana zasemakhaya"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: “zintsana zasemakhaya” = “domestic babies”
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Here’s information about NSFAS from https://www.gov.za/services/tertiary-education/apply-financial-assistance-national-student-financial-aid-scheme-nsfas
“Are you in need of financial assistance to study at a tertiary institution? Apply for a National Student Financial Aid Scheme (NSFAS) bursary.

NSFAS is a bursary scheme funded by the Department of Higher Education and Training for those who do not have the financial means to fund their studies and cannot access bank funding, study loans or bursaries.”…

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25. Lindelwa Mpilwenhle Dlamini, 2017
"Fees will fall, my heart will fall for this brother even. Mayibuye!"
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From https://dsae.co.za/entry/mayibuye/e04629
Mayibuye- A rallying-cry of the African National Congress (see ANC noun1), especially in the phrases Mayibuye Afrika, Mayibuye iAfrika or Afrika Mayibuye, ‘Come back Africa’, ‘Africa, may it return’. See also Operation Mayibuye. Cf. Afrika interjection.
1949 E. Hellmann Handbk on Race Rel. 491It was this paper..that was largely responsible for popularizing the stirring slogan, Mayibuy’iAfrika (Let Africa Come Back).

1990 Pace May 4As the whole world cheers, black, white and yellow say in unison, ‘Mayibuye I Africa’."...

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26. 
benedict mbadu, 2017
"You killed guys the struggle continue."
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"Killed [it]"= African American Vernacular English term meaning "You did an excellent job".

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27. ncega mncedić bayana, 2017
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Google translate from Zulu to English: "Siyabonga icreativity" = Thanks to creativity
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"bayana" may be the same as the Zulu word "bafana" meaning "boys".

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28. Vuyisanani Mafuya, 2017
"africa must unite in other to reach free education"

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29. Kamal Clifton, 2019
"I agree. Not just free education but to command and dictate. This place has all the world's wealth and Africans are sitting by and watching the barrels rollout in front of them."

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30. Wild Life, 2017
"
BIGGEST STUDENT MOVEMENT AFTER APARTHEID"

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31. Wandile Nzuza, 2017
"
somebody get this guy a record label"

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32. 
Modiehi Mahase, 2017
"As our VC in police custody said, "Songs liberated South Africa". We will remain united!"
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"Our VC [vice chancellor] here refers to  s
tudent activist Mcebo Dlamini who declared himself the new ‘vice-chancellor’ of Wits University when the actual vice chancellor postponed a planned University general assembly. Read this article   
"This guy's voice!!!!πŸ˜„πŸ˜„"

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34. The Nutritionist, 2017
"This is Beautiful :-)"

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35. nqobile malunga, 2017
"
He sings while smiling 😍😍😍"

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36. Selloane Molutsi, 2017
"The lead singer though,I think I'm in love with him...😍😍😍😘😘😘"

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REPLY
 
37. Yo2dalanda, 2017
"
i know xctly how u feel..."

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38. Mayenziwe Zondi, 2017
"he sings it so beautifully. . . 😒😒😒"

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39. 
Amanda Ntibane, 2017
"The guy in the white t-shirt at 00:58 πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚"

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REPLY
40. Maisha Molepo, 2018
"
hahahaahahhahahahaahaahaahhaha"

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41. Lebohang Monkhe, 2019
"
Lol yey he's feeling just as much as we are if not moreπŸ˜‚πŸ’―πŸ”₯πŸ”₯"

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42. Luyanda Gumede, 2018
"
l so love my school..  everything is so real and music makes everything seem possible"

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43. oolz deMaestro,  2018
"
Wishing this Guy all the Best in life.After He was screwed By Wits after the original FMF protest.
Yamkela YOu Will rise Bafana.
The revolution comes at a Grate cost"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: Bafana= boys
“Grate” typo or misspelling for the English word “great”

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44. 
King Made Official, 2018
"Growing up and seeing Sarafina in Ghana ,i was convinced all South Africans can sing, Can all south Africans sing?? Any S.A ppl here"

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REPLY 
45. Palesa Orlyn, 2020
"Most people can sing

As a nation we sing when we sad, we sing when we happy and even when we bored or chilling. It's in our blood"

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46. maSamu, 2020
"πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚I'm horrible at singing so that would be a No."

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47. vuyokazi sodinga, 2020
"Im from South Africa 🀣🀣🀣 I think anyone can sing but its a matter of singing well❤❤"

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48. Laura Vermeulen, 2018
"love this song it touches my heart"

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49. Miey Tetelo, 2018
"His voice always brightens my day. #Yamkela Gola"

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50. Bongani Mahlangu, 2018
"
bathong  this guy"

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51. Mamsy Zondo, 2018
"
he killed it"

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52. Zoliseka Maliti, 2018
"This guy lawd😍"

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53. Sneh Dube, 2019
"
Let me tell u about the story of my life... My mother... My father... That's why I'm a communist.
Babaningi abaningi bethi uyajola, bethi uzongishiya, bethi uzongishiya.
So plz don't judge me
Plz don't judge me
Plz don't judge me
Baby don't judge me.
He was a buffalo soldier
Dreadlock Rasta
Stolen from Africa
Bought to America
Oh yabayaba yabayaba yabayaba yabayava"

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 54. Khulu Minenhle, 2019
"
Is the lead singer still at Wits ...I need to see him..Before the end of this year..πŸ˜„πŸ˜†πŸ˜„πŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’•πŸ’•MaratoπŸ‘"
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"Wits" = The University Of 
Witwatersrand (known as "Wits") in Johannesburg, South Africa

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REPLY
55. Paulos Lekala Marutha
"Yeah he's still at Wits"

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56. Colino Deani, 2019
"
Every Black Child across the world should be taught this song so no matter where we meet we can break into this song in Brother and sisterhood no matter what country we come from....

WELL DONE FAMILY! Peace & love from NYC =)"

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57. 
Johannes Tau, 2019
"Guys these students are on πŸ”₯. Yooh much love 😍"

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58. Tanaysha Pleasant, 2019
"I LOVE my people!!!!  So much meaning behind y'all singing.  Much Love from Virginia ✊🏿"

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59. Themba Zondo, 2019
"
Reminds me of my days as a SASCO Secretary at the Vaal University of Technology. Eish"

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60. KiNG VLogs, 2020
"
the energy they have, i wish them well! i hope they are all employed by now..."

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61. Tonsh Benosh, 2020
"
Greetings from Colombia πŸ‡¨πŸ‡΄ fellow fighters,the struggle continue s"

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62. Oab, 2020
"
Respect"

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63. KatLee Zulu, 2020
"
My happy place πŸ˜‡πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦ they can sing shameπŸ’‹"

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64. mawethu mapulane, 2020
"The #lockdownSA brought me here. Morena boloka setΕ‘haba sa geΕ‘u.  26 March-16 April 2020πŸ˜­πŸ’” #covid19"
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Google translate from Zulu to English: “Morena boloka setΕ‘haba sa geΕ‘u” =  Lord, save our people
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65. Muhammad Ravat, 2020
"WE ARE ONE WE ARE DIVERSE WE ARE UNITED WE ARE SOUTH AFRICA
VIVA
I LOVE OUR SOUTH AFRICAπŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦πŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦"

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66. 
Pinknashe, 2020

"2020 and i'm still here....this guy is gold shame..."
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From https://www.stcommunications.com/travellers-guide-south-african-slang/
"Ag shame: Shame is a South Africanism for pity or sympathy, but it can also be used to indicate cuteness. E.g., Ag shame, did you hurt yourself? And, Ag shame, he got his exam results today and they weren’t good. And, Ag shame, did you see that fluffy puppy?"
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From https://banananewsline.wordpress.com/about/a-handy-guide-to-speaking-south-african/
"Shame/Ag Shame (pron. \Agg\ \Shame\) –how cute (“Is that your baby? Ag shame”); an expression of empathy, much like “I’m so sorry for you” (Marie: “My dog died.” Suzie: “Ag shame.”) – ‘ag’ is not necessary, it only adds emphasis"

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67. vuyokazi sodinga, 2020
"This song tho❤❤❤ I remember singing with friends and random ppl on the road.


MUCH LOVE FOR MZANSI❤❤❤"

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68. 
Colino Deani, 2020

"They Still dont wanna see us together in 2020 lol
Love From NYC,USA to Africa & Back again 

#TheyDontWannaSeeUsTogether"

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69. Thobile Macaws,  2020
"
They don’t wanna see us together - yet when we sing and dance they are confounded... yes the spirits of our ancestors are alive and moving with so much might and speed ✊🏾✊🏾!!"

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70. Kwena Mokgokong, 2020
"2020 #covid19 still relevant ♥️"

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71. Hope Faith, 2020
"This reminds me of high school😒😒😒 it was our favourite track during PET  and on our way back from every  trip...  Yoooh mega love xerm❤❤"

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72. 
Buhle Mkhize, 2020

"If we stand together, we can do so much more✊πŸΎπŸ‡ΏπŸ‡¦"

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73. 
Sive Gwaza, 2021
"I
 will forever be grateful to the leaders and the masses of #FeesMustFall , cz at that time I had already  lost hope of being a graduate πŸŽ“ πŸ™ 😒,. I was owing the institution 30k and I knew that I will never have that money. Then boom #FMF, they wrote off my debt.  Today I'm a graduate πŸŽ“ 😌 πŸ™Œ. I thank you  my people πŸ™"

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UPDATE: Video #3: 
Nobody wanna see us together - Mxolisi Sopiseka




Paulos Lekala Marutha, Dec 2, 2016

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