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Saturday, September 21, 2019

"Put Down The PHONES!" - Comments About A 2018 South African House Music Concert In Paris, France

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a video of a Black Coffee [South African House music DJ] concert in Paris, France in 2018.

This post also focuses on the reactions of commenters in that video's discussion thread to the fact that many concert attendees taped the concert with their cell phones instead of dancing to that music or otherwise showing that they appreciated that music.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Black Coffee for his musical legacy. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Black Coffee @ Salle Wagram for Cercle



Cercle, Published on Feb 1, 2018
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This concert was in Paris, France.

Statistics as of September 21, 2019 at 10:50 AM
total # of comments - 10,665,457
total # of likes - 102K
total # of dislikes - 4.7K
total # of comments – 5, 347

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
Pancocojams' Editor's Note:
This is a companion post to this September 2019 pancocojams post that documents comments about South African audiences at a Gospel concert taping the concert instead of focusing on the music: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/09/comments-from-discussion-thread-of.html
Comments From The Discussion Thread Of "Wenzile" by Joyous Celebration About Gospel Concert Attendees Recording Concerts With Their Cell Phones.

I noted in that post that I recalled reading comments about that subject in a South African post about House music. The comments that are featured in this September 21, 2019 pancocojams post are from the discussion thread that I was referring to. However, although I had read many of those comments before, I hadn't published a blog post that included those comments, but was mis-remembering this pancocojams post that I published in 2016 that features South African DJ Black Coffee: https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2019/09/comments-from-discussion-thread-of.html (South African DJ) Black Coffee, featuring Toshi - Buya (information, video, lyrics, & comments).

Most of the comments in this post refer to fact that many of the concert's attendees taped the concert on their cell (mobile) phone. A few comments compare that custom with how attendees at House concerts in the United States used to (and still) dance to House music.

I didn't read all of the 5,000+ comments that comprise the discussion thread for this video as of this pancocojams post's publishing date. However, I did read A LOT of that discussion thread and I believe that these selected comments are representative of all the comments that I read about the audience's reactions to that particular concert.

One comment in this compilation refers to Black Coffee himself and one comment provides that concert's track list.

I happened upon each of the above mentioned videos as part of a conscious YouTube search for contemporary South African music. I focused on comments about concert attendees' taping these concerts with their cell phones because I consider those comments to be culturally interesting. Judging from those comments, it appears that concert attendees concentrating on taping concerts with their cell phones instead of "getting into" the concert is a relatively new and-I think- a relatively widespread phenomenon- although I don't know how new and how widespread it is across music genres, and continents, and races.
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Numbers are added to these comments for referencing purposes only.

2018

1. Wellem Mkhulu Skhosana
"Proudly South African Icon, Thank you Bro Nkosinathi Maphumulo AKA Black Coffee for the authentic talent that attracted the whole world to come and feel how SA vibe is cascade to the love of house music."

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2. Raebik
"TRACKLIST

00:00 Pablo Fierro - Kalaa (Original Mix)
00:01 [Acapella] Black Coffee feat. Hugh Masekela - We Are One
06:07 From P60 & Lisa Shaw - Magic (Enoo Napa Remix)
11:20 Keinermusik (Rampa, Adam Port, &ME) - Muyè (Black Coffee Remix)
18:06 Black Coffee feat. Toshi - Buya (Da Capo Remix)
23:26 Shimza - All Alone (Original Mix)
27:20 Da Capo - Kelaya
32:48 [Acapella] Danny Tenaglia ft Celeda - Music is the Answer (Dancin' & Prancin')
33:05 Leroy Styles - The Night [Unreleased] (?)
38:10 [Acapella] Black Coffee feat. Bucie - Superman
39:13 DeMajor ft Lizwi - Traveller (Kususa & QueTornik Official Remix)
46:03 Da Capo - Umbovukazi (Original Mix)
51:15 Vestaa - The Creation (Original Mix)
56:43 Da Capo feat. Tshepo - Africa (Original Mix)
1:02:14 Calypso De Sir - From A Distance (Original Mix)
1:06:44 [Acapella] Black Coffee feat. Hugh Masekela - We Are One"

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3. Anthony Teasdale
"Beautiful music… but too many people filming what is essentially a bloke playing records. Dance together or on your own, flirt, catch the eye of that special someone, but put your phone in your pocket. You will have more fun"

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4. Ajianjo19
"Anthony Teasdale why u people hating too much the recording people, i went to the best club in spain and i record a couple of instagram stories and i had more fun than in my life. U all just.think u enjoy more the music than anyone recording and its not like that"

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5. Anthony Teasdale
"Ajianjo19 I don’t hate. I just think we have more fun when we lose ourselves in the moment. I started raving in 1988, and the whole point was that the crowd was the star, not the DJ."

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6. Ajianjo19
"Anthony Teasdale i understand what are u talking about but that dont means that i cant do some short videos to remember the music, i dont really care about filming the dj but the music, but i get your point"

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7. nick78447
"No hate in that post. In fact he's advocating love and fun, and sharing an experience without cameras. Losing yourself because you don't have access to that brilliant but sometimes evil device. People under 25... please, just for a few moments, just imagine the freedom that going to a great club and having a great time without a mobile on you, would give you. Utterly liberating. Able to concentrate only on the music. Not on missed calls/texts/whatsapps/instas etc."

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8. Adriano Moreira
"I agree with you."

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9. Christian Fetz
"I miss that times when nobody had a cellphone and everybody was dancing and enjoying. Simple as that. It was a different atmosphere."

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10. Eduardo Camacho
"How can they just stand there!!! You hear that music!!! You're supposed to get lost in it, forget work the world it's just you and the music!!! It's a FEELINGGGGGG"

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11. A C
"1 person has to record it."

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12. S P
"Facts!!!"

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13. Ami Ami
"@ Anthony What's wrong with folk doing there own thing?... People on different buzzes at different times. You the kinda dude that growls at folk on there phone. Ain't none of your business what other folk are doing. People sharing the love & recording to have a memory. Take that negativity elsewhere. You ain't feeling something better than someone sharing it with loved ones."

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14. TG Swartlane
"Anthony Teasdale 😂🤣🤣😂😂too many people filming buddy 🤣"

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15. Victoria Whyte, 2019
"@Ami Ami apart from us people who have most events ruined by someone who is already taller than you standing in front if you spilling their drink all over you as well as slamming their elbows in your face"

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16. Lasandra Barney, 2019
"Lol I so agree .... How is they enjoying the moment if your focus is on technology 🤯🤯🤯"

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17. DJ JUDE ELLIOTTT
"Love Black Coffee! Love the Salle Wagram atmosphere! But people put your phones away! Enjoy the music and experience! Smh"

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18. RockstahRolln
"Unfortunately those days are long gone where people get together at a venue just to enjoy the music... A VERY sad reality."

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19. Angela Allen
"For feal, if I was there jamming they would be mopping my sweat of the floor!"

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20. Allen Thomas
"this can be CHURCH"

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21. Objective Intuition
"Allen Thomas I thought it was church? I go house dancing Sunday mornings in NY-"

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22. Denise Mitchell
"+Objective Intuition where old house head 61 Gayragette here before club went urban and was girl friendly???"
Sundae Sermon Harlem
Soul Summit Brooklyn
Ron Hardy king of House Chicago
Frankie Knuckles sent to Chicago godfather of house
this is bananas got my powder ready"

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23. Objective Intuition
"Denise Mitchell Frankie knuckles- okay, okay I’ll give you your props!!'

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24. Denise Mitchell
"+Objective Intuition heard the best knew About Frankie before Larry Levan gayrage trained him been partying all my life!
saw him live flew to Chicago 5 Times
Club Zanzibar Brick City
stand up"

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25. Objective Intuition
"Denise Mitchell club Zanzibar- my stomping grounds- went to see black coffee last weekend in Atlantic Cit... my feet still hurt 💃🏾"

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26. Jenny Batres
"This is my church 😃"

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27. aminahcm
"Black Coffee moves my soul! However I'm a mover and over the years I've become so frustrated with people standing in front of the dj booth like zombies with cell phones. What ever happened to dancing?"

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28. David Reinhardt
"aminahcm agreed ... but its the age we live in.... they will never know.... and always regret!! Absolute belter of a set... and i havent even watched the video..."

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29. Fabric
"Exactly dance free and ✌️"

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30. monkeynkl
"My feelings exactly. WTF Larry Levan was up in his dj booth without the crowd standing around and ogling. My fav...Paradise Garage. No disrespect to Black Coffee. Love the look of that club though."

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31. S
"Nothing happened to dancing. Its wack dj's like this that f&&ked* up true club music."
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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32. Karen Courtois
"I was there, the mood changed when he came on, music vibration took over the whole sphere,gods mate"

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33. cenz70
"These people serious with these phones move around man the music is there for you too move"

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34. WWEE Network-Wellness
"cenz70 They are in shock and have no internal rhythm...I woukd be so in the ZONE vs my dang phone.."

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35. Johny Zikhali
"So music lovers that side go partying to just grab their phones on hands and not drinking alcohol"

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36. Hannie Mathega
"Epic selection .. I can't stop dancing.#BlackCoffee"

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37. Thabang Matsepe
"When he plays the aim is not sweat ,but I am telling u deep house will make u run water papa

Only when Black Coffee plays it ."

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38. Dhruva Kashyap
"This set is very different and unusual.. like very calm and vibey! Very different.."

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39. Ju Bilation
"they ll have 5 gigas of non audible videos...feel the set dont allways take your phone..."

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40. Jetty
"Girl in the front row. Her reactions make me realise how music is different and how music feels good but differently to everyone. Basically this was an awesome act AF!"

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2019

41. jame conradi
"As a dj this was a cool Sunday session but look at the crowd dissapointing from BC."

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42. Kyle 89
"put the phones down and get lost in the music!"

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43. Maor Davar
"back in the days people used to cheer now the phones are in the air for ppl at home to cheer
Holy crap"

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44. Sherman Wellons
"we danced harder in Los Angeles when he came to visit :)"

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45. Mark Weiler
"Hopefully someone there brought a phone to catch some of this 🤔🤷🏿‍♂️"

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46. Tyler Dladla
"Crowd ain't understanding the genius behind this mix"

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47. TheZeallions
"Guys getting close to the deck so they can text on their phone !
Hilarious."

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48. m4nuz
"no space for dancing? :( ... niccceee set!"

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49. Yasser Asmai
"min 40. hold my beer i will show you how to dance"
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Several commenters noted that that the venue was very nice and there was space for dancing.

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50. Ian He-kensken
"Wish I was there so I could capture it on my phone"

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51. KRUE
"Credits to the people actually dancing and enjoying the mix instead of filming the whole time."

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52. Tami Lee Krebbs
"Well, Well, well....I guess I am Damn late to THIS party!! Wasn't familiar with this dude yet, I must have been living under a flat rock!! He is so so DOPE!! Just close your eyes, and TURN IT UP...you cant help but move to it, man! wow...a mixture of styles, transitions just as "smooth as butter..", .breathe in the vibe and let that BEAT just ooze on in...its all so rich...it will rumble all your parts into their happy place! Simply a genius."

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53. TheDANfromAXP
"Mobile zombies lol"

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54. Žiga Kurat
"WTF is with all the phones in hands??? why people dont just listen the music and let it go??? feel the vibe, respect the DJ..."

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55. popyeni haikali
"Im confused, is it only white people in France that like his type of music? Cz i only c white folks.
Nevertheless, dig this this dude! WITH LOVE FROM NAMIBIA"

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56. Joy Joy
"I saw a few people of colour. France is a predominately White country since it's in Europe, so I'm not surprised majority here is White."

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57. Harry S. Keith
"Put down the PHONES!"

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58. Diggo
"I hate the people who are chatting in the crowd. During a Black Coffee set you don't speak, blink or chew anything,"

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59. Nondumiso
"Hahahahahaha! True"

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60. John Ngatia
"Awesome set!! Wrong venue and crowd (zombies in a cemetery)"

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61. Lil Prince
"I love the way there's no one who really dances for his mixes. Everyone feels the heat but cannot articulate how they should really move bcz what he does is juss out of this world. You can't help it, you just stick to nodding."

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