Black Americans Dressing Up In Traditional African Or African Inspired Clothing To View The Black Panther Movie

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases one YouTube video and one YouTube vlog (video log) about Black people in the United States dressing in traditional African clothes or African inspired clothes to see Black Panther in movie theaters.

There are a number of other YouTube videos about this cultural phenomenon in the United States and/or in Africa and elsewhere throughout the world. However, these two examples only focus on this custom in the United States.

Selected comments from these YouTube examples are included in this post.

The content of this post is presented for socio-cultural purposes.

Thanks to all those who are associated with the Black Panther movie and thanks to all those who are quoted in this post. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

This is part of an ongoing pancocojams series about the 2018 Black Panther movie. Click the Black Panther tag below for other posts in this series.

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SHOWCASE VIDEOS
Example #1: Black Panther inspires fashion statement at the movies



New York Daily News, Published on Feb 19, 2018

Fans showed off their African fashion during opening weekend of the 'Black Panther' movie
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Here are some comments from this video's discussion thread. Numbers are assigned for referencing purposes only.

All of these comments are from February and March 2018.

1. 19EHF
"okay black people while im proud yall have a sudden interest in African inspired fashion, lets see how many of yall continue to wear this after the hype has died down. I would love for my people to wear and support African inspired fashion owners but i doubt it"

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2. Yaa Moremi Queen
"19EHF children of African immigrants hardly wear their own attire"

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3. transcendentmuzic
"People will wear whatever is popular or "normal" to wear in the era. That's human nature regardless of race. It's up to the young people to innovate and push new styles to the forefront and that happens everyday. As a young person myself, I will continue to proudly and openly rep my people, and many others are following suit. This isn't just a movie, a singular event, it's the representation of a movement that's been brewing in the black community for the last few years now. We're witnessing a new era unfold. We're in the start of another black renaissance, and we'll see how far this generation takes it."

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4. Jonothan Doezer
"So your point is that African Americans should wear African clothes every day from now on...?"

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5. Al Person
"Excuse me, we are western black people and many of us have our own traditional wear. When you Africans start wearing your clothing everyday then you can talk to us."

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6. transcendentmuzic
"Jonothan Doezer I think it was more along the lines of people feeling comfortable enough with the fact that they are of African descent to the point that they'll casually incorporate that type of clothing into their wardrobe, not necessarily wearing it everyday."

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7. Yaa Moremi Queen
"transcendentmuzic Even most people in Africa do not wear their garbs its usually only worn on special occasions or kanga in,east Africa is worn by the village women or older women. They older people may where a complet. There is a lady on Youtube named SheLearnsLife that explains African clothing in one of her videos."

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8. aybabs
"As a matter of fact children of african immigrants do wear their own attire. Visit London, you'll see young people wearing african prints especially in summer, simple styles to the office, more elaborate styles at the weekend for parties. the fashion is lit! It's all over instagram etc. Do check things out before generalising."

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9. SlimAndCurvy
"ive been wearing african print clothes for years wouldve done it earlier if they actually sold them in places near me in the suburbs. A lot of people have wanted to wear them but dont know where to buy them locally. And I dont buy clothes online. I finally see them at festivals."

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10. yewande adesanoye
"its funny , suddenly Africa everything is so important to black americans. Suddenly our clothes our history, our language, our hearts is soo important now. after this whole black panther thing dies down, you will not see one black American near Africa anything. smh ya'll tried it."

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11. iloverette
"you're doing the absolute most. just know that African culture belongs to the Africans in America as well. It's their culture as well - a culture and heritage that they were ripped from. And people's embrace of themselves shouldn't keep you from sleeping at night. Your anger seems displaced. And I know it's not representative of all continental Africans because too many are embracing their brothers and sisters throughout the diaspora. Sending you peace."

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12. Yaa Moremi Queen
"yewande adesanoye black americans are in Ghana, Kenya, south africa now. People have been wearing African print in mass numbers for the last 4 years. It didnt just start when the movie came out. Remember the 1970's? Afros, dashikis, Blank Panther Party. Remember Marcus Garvey back to Africa although he was Jamaican. Did you know Black Americans gave money to support Ethiopia from the Italian invasion in the 1940's. Did you know Little John the rapper just built a school in Africa. Did you know the voice of chef a black man, built a technical school in Africa?"

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13. douglas thompson
"African Americans have embraced Africa and African culture since at least the Sixties, when we celebrated being Black, wearing Afros and dashikis, turning what was once seen as a negative into a positive, Nina Simone singing “ ...to be young, gifted and Black”, seeing Africa not as a country, but a continent with a series of countries. Then, with the rising of Hip Hop as a phenomenon, you had Afrocentric Hip hop, like Poor Righteous Teachers, Arrested Development, KRS-ONE, etc. Then in the eighties and nineties, we found out about Steve Biko, and Nelson Mandela, with the “Divest from South Africa “ movement. I could continue on, but you get the idea"

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14. Unccle Locc
"yewande adesanoye 6lacc American's 6een looking towards Africa for 500 years.... In guess what Just like in the movie you never came for us... So now you want to look down at us 6ased on our 6ehavior, well y'all left us with savages..."

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15. Rachelle Revis
"Unccle Locc you took the words right out my mouth...kudos!"

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16. Tricia Charlton
"Honestly, it's a joint effort. Some African people get offended when African Americans wear African clothing. There needs to be a bridge"

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17. yewande adesanoye
"Oh yeah because I asked my ancestors to sell you off or maybe the white men of today asked their ancestors to make you slaves. this is probably why ya'll dying everyday, boo hoo the white man is the root of all our problems, but you still out here killing each other, living in section 8, doing drugs in the hood , never wanting to better yourself. But still its still everyone's fault right. black lives matter , what a joke. dumbasses"

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18. ElricKeyblade
"yewande adesanoye Ummm...you might want to take a crash course is African-American history. This is NOT the first time we've been inspired to learn more about our history, and it certainly wont be the last..."

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19. ChocolateSkinful
"It so beautiful seeing all the African Americans reconnecting with African culture. I hope to see many of them travelling to African countries and learning more about the people and their way of life to gain a deeper understanding of their heritage. xx"

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20. Amma Trench
"Take it further, expand your knowledge, go to Africa. There are 54 choices!❤💛💚

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21. Eddard Liebber
"Black americans appropriation to look "African" and make a statement but they don't even care where it's from or if they're mixing 2 or 3 separate cultures"

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22. ojideagu
"Eddard Liebber Exactly. How has coming to America and Shakazulu got anything to do with west African cultures? They are just as ignorant as white Americans."

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23. Yaa Moremi Queen
"Eddard Liebber We are a mix of several different tribes in Africa so that makes sense."

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24. Yndia Dallas
"support black business 365 not just one month or one movie"

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25. Flawless Stone
"I'm a 💯% African woman from west Africa Liberia 🇱🇷,& I'm just too damn happy to see my truthful African woman & Men together,This Friday is not going to past by me, I'm going watch me some Black panther"

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26. Lavette Miller
"Love it. Just love it. I hope this good energy continues to grow"

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27. Sarah F K
"Lots of love from a sister from Cote d ivoire! Akwaba to Mama Africa"

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28. Joyce Dauzart
"How wonderful to see black people embracing their blackness with such pride . I sadly remember, years ago, a black woman telling me that she didn't like the term "African-American", because, as she continued to state to me, she yelled.... " I didn't come from Africa !!!" Thank God for a new revelation !"

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29. jhon doe
"Black panther inspires black people to waste their money and whites and Asians to gain black peoples money. all that so called "african fabric" MADE IN CHINA stupid!"

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30. Faiza Fawz
"How about north Africa Fashion style still its africa"

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31. perri 6
"Ankara (prints) forever!"

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32. hydelover75
"I dressed up for the movie. It was so much fun, to see everyone dressed up"

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Example #2: Why Black People Gotta Be Extra At Black Panther



KevOnStage, Published on Feb 16, 2018
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The title of this vlog (video log) includes the term “be extra”. "[To] Be extra" is an African American Vernacular English term meaning "to do more than what is usually [normally] done". Another way of saying this is "to go all out" or "go overboard". While "be extra" and "go all out" may have positive or negative connotations, "go overboard" only has negative connotations.

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Here are some comments from this video's discussion thread. Numbers are assigned for referencing purposes only.

All of these comments are from February and March 2018.

1.HeWells Living
"Yes be extra"

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2. MetaKnight964
"Extra for what? Why?"

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3. Cheryl Mosley
"MetaKnight964
And I asked you why not? Have you ever seen the plaque “ don’t just be normal “. I was always taught to be extra; to do the best at everything you do. Yes, our children need to learn do be mediocre. Be yourself love yourself and support one another and yes be extra."

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4. ROYALTY _BEAUTI
"HeWells Living I'm being extra all day everyday 24/7 😏🙅❤💯"

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5. Boozer
"Even us Africans are extra. It’s just a black people thing to be super extra all the time."

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6. Beyhive Yonce
"Tell them I wonder why people complain
You should see an African burial if they think this is extra"

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7. Xavier Simmons
"Now people going around dressing up like some Africans... I can deal with that. Where o draw this line is when people actually start thinking that this is supposed too have some sort of historical significance. Heck half the people who attended the movie didn't know who Black panther was until they saw the trailer. It's a freaking Marvel movie OK. It's not like 42 or some other movie where the character had some type of influence in American history. Nope we get the African feels from a movie about a black Batman. Way to go people really showing what matters."

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8. Monica Williams
"Xavier Simmons bruh thank you!! one of the only people thats making sense right now. Good Lord. Somebody help these American blacks"

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9. Mocha Berry
"They’re dressing up for fun like anybody else would. It’s not that serious so no need for that. The problem comes in when they want to dress up for this particular marvel movie they are torn down but when others dress up for a marvel movie no one Bats an eyelash. Get it together bi&ch" get it together. 😒🙄
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This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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10. Monica Williams
Mocha Berry ...ive never seen people dress up for a Marvel movie. Theres nothing to dress up for!? Whos going to walk into a theater dressed like captain America? No -.- people suit up for comiccon and other conventions. Not a movie, like these idiots for black panther.

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11. zeewann
"Monica Williams - why does someone else have to set up what's "appropriate." Who gets to make those rules? White people? Hmmm? I thought the chains were off over a hundred years ago, and people can decide on their own social conventions? (besides, just because you haven't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't happen. Try google images)"

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12. Monica Williams
"zeewann lol really? White people decide what is and what is not awkward. Idk. Going into an already dark theater pretending to know about African culture for a fictional Marvel movie sounds stupid to me. Every other day American black people poke fun at African traditional cultures yet wanna pretend to be connected to their roots when an action movie comes out. They werent checking for black panther when it came out years ago. This character isnt new. But whatever. Y'all keep acting and people gon keep laughing."

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13. Ari Raquel
"whats wrg with blacks being proud and positive???? why is it considered extra???? whites have yearly comic conventions dress in comic characters and pay lots of money to attend its not repremended...i rather see our people embracing heritage and being positive then coming to a theater and shooting it up like other races in the past .not trying to be insensitive and r.ip to all innocent beautiful souls but i love our people we are amazing!!!!!"

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14. Carl Wharton
"I guess these people have never seen
a Star Wars movie premiere? Or gone to a comic con…or a Star Trek convention…People
of all colors show their excitement and appreciation in a galaxy of ways. Google
the Last Jedi movie premier and see how many dressed up as the characters. Why
do folks want to call our pride and love affair with ourselves “extra”, as if
we’re doing something wrong. This is the norm in all cultures. If you’re not
going to be excited about what you do, who else is??? #wakandaforever #therealbornfree"

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15. Leigh Lafrance
"I don't think its just white ppl at comic conventions dressing up ;x"

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16. Davidth
..."That doesn't make wearing the African clothing not look embarrassing. I can understand if it was for religious purposes, but it isn't. Hell half of the people that wear it can't even name 5 countries in Africa"

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17. Lapis The Bro
"Davidth they don’t feel embarrassed wearing something that empowers them and their culture"

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18. Kaleb Irwan
"Davidth well....it has some connection to the movie dude. Im white and i dont find this anyhow annoying or offensive or whatever. The people in the movie wear africans clothes. Therefore it has a connection the viewers wearing african clothes. Its not rocket science"

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19. The Mad Doctor
"Why can't black people be excited for things without some rasicts got to kill our vibe! #wakandaforever"

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20. Angie Natoyn
"Ain't black, but I think it's really cool that folks were wearing African inspired garb, etc. Like it a lot."
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"Garb" was a term that was commonly used in the late 1960s and 1970 by afrocentric Black Americans to mean "African or African inspired" garments (clothing).

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21. Mikehezzy da illest
"The Only Problem I have with people being extra with this movie is most of them haven't even read a Black Panther comic or most people didn't even know he exists until they seen him in "Civil War". The people that's being most extra are the ones who didn't know shit about him. Atleast Harry Potter fans and star wars fans are true fans because they followed all movies or read the books."

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22. zeewann
"So...old fans should dress up, but new fans shouldn't? Where is the logic in that? Aren't most people the most excited when they discover something for the first time? Hmmm?"

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23. Mikehezzy da illest
"zeewann never said they couldn't. Just as a person who knew black panther from the comics and not just a movie in my head I'm saying "do you really know him like that". You have people who literally didn't even think he's a comic book character lol"

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24. Mika20
"Me and my brother rocked our dashiki outfits on the Thursday it came out. And we weren't the only ones either. What a fun night and such an amazing movie."

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25. Isaac Shaw
"I think it's real extra to go to a movie dressed up in a costume, but if you do it just means you're excited and is there anything wrong with that?!? If trekkies and Star Wars fans can go around looking like movie extras saying "live long and prosper" and "may the force be with you" can't black Panther fans say Wakanda forever? On the flipside try not to get to militant remember the Black Panther and Wakanda were created by our Jewish brothers Stan Lee and Jack Kirby.🤔"

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26. David Stufflebean
"My daughter and I went to 3 showings of Black Panther, at all 3 shows there were lots of African Americans showing up dressed in clothes of various kinds and it was so awesome. I knew this movie was going to be really good and was going to shatter records but the 2nd time we went there was a party of 7 ladies in full African type dress they were probably 40-65 years old and I just smiled it was so refreshing to see people coming out to see a comic book movie that actually meant something and they felt it! Wakanda Forever, cannot wait for a follow-up!"

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27. Alicia B.
"Dang, Melanated people coming together in unity! ⚡WOW....This should be🙌celebrated🙌 Not Hated!"

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28. NaturalBeauty0708
"Alicia B. It doesn't fit the agenda"

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29. Sharita Martin
"I ❤that Melanated"

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30. john shoffner
"Alicia B. Yep. Being extra ain't hurting nobody."

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31. Mickey Mania
"Alicia B. Absolutely understand you sistah, really gave me something to think about, maybe I needed that. Looking at it that way it is a cause for celebration, peace and blessings to you also sistah."

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32. The Popular Brunnette
"Because white people know the power of the black men coming together in unity. This is why they build the system for us to destroy one another and then hold it against us. It’s called conquer and divide."

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33. Lorenzo L
"Alicia B. What unity for a white created and owned business lol ok"

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34. One-of-the-pieces
"Ah, but Stan is an Ally, he created this superhero back when racial tensions were at their highest and white people were getting beat to death for helping or even speaking positively about black people. He created one of the first black superheroes. He made him smart, he made the country technologically advanced. He challenged the "stupid black savages with big red lips" stereotype in a time when it could have gotten him or his family hurt or gotten him killed like the white preacher whose death(beaten to death by white supremacists) was ultimately responsible for President Lyndon B. Johnson finally approving troop protection for the Selma march."

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35. Yvonne Charlery
"Alicia B. Lorenzo I understand what you are saying, but this pride in the movie is also gererating money in the black community, because people are now seaching for products made by black people, such as clothing, accessories etc, it is a start."

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36. Alicia B.
"Yvonne Charlery you know what, I didn't even consider that! I 💖 your point🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌🙌"

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37. DomDiva Nique
"Can We live??? Dang. I don't see anything wrong with it!! Celebrate ur blackness"

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38. crushinthedevil
"DomDiva Nique say so sis"

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39. DomDiva Nique
"crushinthedevil yes baby I am here for All of it... This isn't being extra to me.. This is showing PRIDE. And whats sad is that society isn't used to seeing Black Pride so they think its extra when we express it... Trust me i planned on going to the movie dressed like the Queen of Zamunda. ..lol.. Just didn't have time to go shopping"
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"Zamuda" is the name of the fictional African nation in Eddie Murphy's 1988 movie Coming To America.

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40. Fleja
"Then is it okay for me to celebrate my whiteness?
Or would that make me racist somehow?....."

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41. DomDiva Nique
"Fleja I celebrate my blackness and my whiteness and my Native American...So do you boo. Fact is we have been celebrating more White culture for generations. We have a Positive ideal whom happens to be emphasizing People of Color... Its not about race. It's about the culture"

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42. Fleja
"Maybe you dont see that as a problem, but majority of society labels whites as racist if they celebrate anything supportive of themselves. Im perfectly fine if blacks, or Hispanic, or Asians etc want to celebrate as certain pride for themselves,

however it just sucks people don't see the double standard placed on whites. And its is these kinds of things [as well as a few other things] that have allowed the alt right to grow in power, and it is still growing today.

Also it is about race: the root of this thread you literally say "Celebrate your blackness". No reason to lie about that, especially when its so easy to point out
it's fine if you like the movie, or want to celebrate the representation of your race, but please, I just wish it could be fair for everyone else; specifically those of European decent

it should either be all okay, or none of it okay"

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43. DomDiva Nique
"Fleja Im sorry but i don't feel that way"

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44. HotAndSpoicy
"I think it’s ok to be excited about a movie and dress up but with Black Panther, this wasn’t the case. Black people only dressed up in AFRICAN TRIBAL clothing, not a Black Panther suit or cosplay like Star Wars fans do. Plus, this many black people would never dress up and fill up an entire movie theatre for Star Wars like they did for Black Panther."

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45. Jordan Harrington
"I'm definitely finna wear my lil dashiki 😂"
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"Finna" is an old African American Vernacular English term that means "getting ready to". Another form of this word is "fixin to". In the showcased video that is embedded above, the vlogger also used the term "finna".

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46. TheLadyOfSoul502
"They're trying to hijack the dashiki by calling it "Boho" or "gypsy"
It's always been African and it will always be African. The culture vultures have arrived!!"
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This comment included that bold font.

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47. Velylon Carter
"Lol Jordan you know we be saying finna I just burst out laughing when I read that I am 52 yrs young and I say that all the time boy you a mess! lol"

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48. justcallme...
"YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSSSSSS BABY, WE ARE EXTRA FUHEVA!!!!!!!!!!!! I see absolutely nothing wrong with dressing for the movie, and as you so wonderfully stated, Trekkies, Potter Heads, and wannabe Jedis have been doing it for YEARS!!!!! I am curious, though...are there any Africans who felt it was inappropriate or disingenuous? I saw it in 3D and I am going back this weekend, so I hope you and your kids enjoyed it as much as I did :-)"

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49. ChattingwithStevil
"Be "extra" for Black Panther. Be "Super extra". I am a geek and comic fan. Me and my friends dress up for many pop culture movies. Hell I went to Despicable Me dressed as Gru. Kids love it as well as adults.. It makes the movie experience memorable. :)"

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50. S Bullard
"Why do we criticize one another in the presence of others? Other cultures have gone in cultural garb? I’m so proud of and in love with blackness. There is something special in this moment I’m going back in garb...Wakanda Forever"

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51. MexicAnime
"The only thing I'm upset about is that I didn't get to see anybody dressed up when I went to see Black Panther on Saturday. I cosplay so i can appreciate the time, money and effort it takes to wear an amazing outfit/costume for a special event.

Let's just enjoy the movie, and tell the folk that did dress up that they look amazing."

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52. Mareepu
"Even my mother, who's Afrolatina (we're extra-raised on assimilation), turned to me when she saw Black folk all dressed up and said, 'this is beautiful'."

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53. Meme
"Anything you give to black people we take it and make it look, taste and sound better 😜😜. Go be sad somewhere esle🤛🏿! Wakanda forever!! We are thinking Wakanda into existence!"

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54. Dc Cowles
"Meme it's a comic book seek help . Therapists are up at all times ."

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55. Rakira Duncombe
"Meme Yaaasssss 💖💖💖"

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56. Meme
"lol; I know i am just having fun"

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57. Kaleah Collins
"Meme AAAAAAAMENN!"

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58. ROYALTY _BEAUTI
"Meme 🙅❤💯 WAKANDA FOREVER"

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59. Kazmo NZ
"like you said, you extra!! that extra-ness is why black culture dominates America and a great deal of the world. P.S Thank you for everything Black culture has given us!! Thank you!!"

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60. Dee Jones
"You know it's pretty much just cosplaying in a movie that's all"

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61. C Jones
"But they dress like Harry Potter and Star Wars characters"

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62. Jemma-Rosa Warrior
"C Jones and black people are dressing like the people in the movie"

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63. J Carter
"Jemma-Rosa Warrior Prince Akeem was from Zamunda. Not Wakanda. Just a counterpoint."

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64.
Jemma-Rosa Warrior
"J Carter true. But it was a African nation. Around the same concept. If people want to wear african outfits who cares? Its not affecting you, unless it's a giant headwrap"

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65. Kenneth Bonney
"C Jones exactly, when they dress up like klingons, captain kirk, and pokemon characters each year at comic-con we dont say anything!!! Let black people have some fun for a change!!!"

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66. Blvck Pantheress
"If I ain't extra I ain't black."

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67. Critical Joseph
"I'm white, and I like black people being extra, the fact that black people understood this phenomenon and gave it a word called "extra" is hilarious. Black people set the trend."

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68. Sharon Rubain
"WE ARE EXTRA! Extra-ordinary, fabulous, awesome, THIS IS US!"

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69. Vette
"Sharon Rubain Yasss!!! A little louder 4 the people in the back"

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70. Just Be Yourself
"Sharon Rubain YEASSSS GUUURRLLL I LUV OUR extraness"

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71. Ray of Lyte
"True that Queen"

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72. The Shaolin
" "Why can't we be extra we is an extra type of people..." That's the problem right there bro you don't speak for all of us. By trying to make it like all black people are "this way" is racist, I'm sorry but it is. Promoting and enabling certain "black" behavior is actually what has kept us in a basic mindset. So anytime you speak on black people as a whole having to act like whatever, you're doing a disservice to the black community by making us out to be nothing more than the embodiment of stereotypes."

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73. P U R G A T O R Y
"The Shaolin thank you! Can we just be individuals instead of a hive mind group?"

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74. Forest Snipes
"+ All the other movies with black people in them are about slavery, or us being the help. Ain't nobody finna dress up as a slave."

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75. roni lee
"EXTRA!? people go to the movies dressed as Darth Vadar and iron man. this is people CELEBRATING! and who cares what other people think about GOOD CLEAN FUN. That's why opening nights for films like this are so amazing! Star wars, star trek, comic book, history, fantasy...it's the kind of theater where you can talk to strangers and have at least one thing in common, your excitement, your connection to the feature in front of you.
I'm proud of Black Panther and it makes me so happy to have a hero that kids can say look like them/us. This is the film i've been waiting to see and if i could have snagged imax tickets to opening night you had better believe I would have dressed to the damn nines."

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76. President So
"roni lee star wars, people dressed up as actual characters, black panther, people dressed up all kinds of ways related to African culture"

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77. Beast Mode
"Um what are they celebrating lmao?"

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78. XxJessica CharlesxX
"1 month ago
Beast Mode They are celebrating their African culture/roots and a embracing their blackness."

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79. That's Where You're Wrong Kiddo
"XxJessica CharlesxX We ain’t embracing no damn culture or roots. The movie is about a futuristic African country that doesn’t exist.

If the black panther was located elsewhere. Then everybody wouldn’t embrace it. So you’re telling me you’re embracing a fake ass culture. Lmao shi fake."

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80. Storm Bey
"That's Where You're Wrong Kiddo Well BP comics, and the costume designers for the movie took inspiration, and in a lot of cases literally copying, traditional African style from all over the continent. So, it is, in a lot of ways, embracing the amalgamation of African people and aesthetics. In either case, people can dress up however tf they want to. Why are y'all crying about it?"

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81. Dean Tran
"Storm Bey People are being so obtuse it's almost cringe worthy, isn't it??? Lmao. Like, yes, it's fictional, but it's so obviously inspired by real cultures, and people have a right to celebrate their cultures."

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82. anony mouse
"I love it! If white people can dress up for Rocky Horror Picture Show and nerds can cosplay for all the other superhero movies, then let me rock my LION HIDE IN PEACE! Imma sling it over my shoulder and his face gon be all in your popcorn. I DONT CARE! LET ME LIVE!"

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83. Glory Mosby
"anony mouse : 💞💓💕💖"

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84. Sujit Prasad
"Exactly! I'm not even Black, or White or hell even brown. I'm probably somewhere between yellow ochre or something 😂(I'm from India so...) I wanted to get dressed like T'Challa like his trademark clawed necklace with attire but couldn't afford it. But it feels so good when you celebrate something for how awesome it was, how influencing it was for the upcoming generation!😊"

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85. ThisIsNajma
"PREACH 💜💜💜💜💜💜
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This comment was written with bold font.
"Preach" means the same thing as same as “Tell it!”, “Tell the truth”!, “Amen!”, and "Yes!"

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86. Dubem28
"😂😂😂😂😂😂! If you think that's extra, go to a Nigerian party."

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87. blindjustice316
"That coming to America cosplay was legit,"

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88. justcallme...
"The pageantry is all part of the experience :-)"

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89. Rachel A
"I didn't know that's how WE were going to get down at the movies. I'm about to go through my mama's closet."

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90. lonelysith66
"Lord, everyone went through their mama, daddy and Uncle Jr's closet this weekend!
LOL XD"

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91. foxxcgirl
"and hit up the local African store! lol that's why it's always good to keep you at least 2 african friends. cause you know they got that GEAR!! shoes and hat to match and glad to share lol kmsl"

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92. Hockey Girl
"Amen ✊🏾 let’s just support people’s rights to be individuals. Black folks need to stop worrying about what white folks think about us. Wear African clothes. Do that thang. White folks see themselves as individuals and we should too. When we marginalize each other as to how we should act, we are just placating to the notion that minorities have collective thinking. We are all individuals and black looks like everything. Go panther go"

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93. SeaOtter Rick Rodgers
"I agree. Why not celebrate africa"

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94. Manuel Lopez
"I went to see it today and at the matinee people came dressed up and taking pictures and high fives and fist pumps....and it was all okay and good. You know why? Cause everyone in there spent the $15.00 a ticket to see it in IMAX/3D and when the movie started...EVERYONE sat down and shutted up till it was over and the cheers and yells started again...hell I cheered and yelled too."

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95. jeff dimirra
"wait, what? black people kept their f&&kin* mouths shut in the movie theatre?"
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*This word was fully spelled out in this comment.

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96. Caressa Clark
"jeff dimirra
Shocking..😂"

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97. Kayshawn Simmons
"Manuel Lopez my ticket was 20 an Wakonda Yes I wore a head wrap"

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98. me AND mines
"Kayshawn Simmons I bet you was looking GOOD in that head wrap too! Go on girl!"

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99. L Curry
"💯 We got Flava in all we do, food, music, clothing, hair. It all goes back to Wakanda"

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100. Ijeme Imolorhe
"I wore a dashiki. I live in Canada. It's February. It's like minus 10 Celsius. It was like 12 Black people in there and the theatre was packed. I was the only one dressed for the occasion. I had to restrain myself from yelling at the screen. Actually, I did a few times. It was the least I could do to show up and show out."

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101. Toyon95
"Why are you all excited to still be alive..." So trueeee! Why do these people care so much?????? urgh..... There's so much sadness in this world- so if a person for once is happy- let them! Join them!"

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Afrocentric Fashions At The AfroPunk Festival (New York) 2013-2015 (with a bonus video of AfroPunk Paris 2015)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post presents excerpts from several internet articles that refer to the vintage and afrocentric fashions worn by attendees of the 2015 AfroPunk festival in Brooklyn, New York. Four videos of the 2013, 2014, and 2015 AfroPunk festivals are also included in this post. In addition, comments about AfroPunk fashions from some of those video's discussion threads as well as from other YouTube discussion threads are also included in this post. A video of AfroPunk Paris (2015) is also showcased in the Addendum to this post.

The 2015 AfroPunk festival (New York) was the tenth annual event for that festival. I'm not sure if AfroPunk Festivals (New York) prior to 2013 had the same apparently high level of emphasis on afrocentric fashions. Articles that I've read about those previous festivals didn't mention afrocentric fashions in their descriptions of those attendees' clothing, hair, or accessories.

The content of this post is presented for folkloric, cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

This post is part of an ongoing series on AfroPunk music & fashion. Click the "AfroPunk music" tab below for other posts in this series.

Thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.

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EXCERPTS FROM SOME INTERNET ARTICLES & VIDEO DISCUSSION THREADS
Editor's Note:
Some of these excerpts are lifted from articles that were published in reaction to Black British blogger Zipporah Gene's post accusing African Americans of appropriating African cultures. However, my focus in this post is on the descriptions of the fashions that many festival attendees worn and not whether they were appropriating African cultures or reclaiming African cultures. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/01/young-paris-response-to-zipporah-genes.html for a pancocojams article that addresses Zipporah Gene's controversial post.

These excerpts are presented in relative order of the festival year with comments about the oldest festival year given first. I've assigned numbers to these excerpts for referencing purposes only.

There are lots of internet articles about the AfroPunk Festivals (New York). Most of these articles are photo slides with very little if any descriptive text. This is just a sample of the comments that I've come across about fashion worn at those festivals.

These comments refer to the 2013 festival:
1. From http://www.billboard.com/photos/5672668/afropunk-2013-festival-style-photos/1 AfroPunk 2013 Festival Style Photos
36 PHOTOS, 8/26/2013
"Style is something Brooklyn, New York...

Style is something Brooklyn, New York has plenty to offer. So with the AfroPunk Festival taking over the borough this past weekend (Aug. 24-25), it was safe to assume that a natty, but funky bunch would show up and show out to catch acts like Danny Brown, Saul Williams and Chuck D. They did.

In these coming shots, check out some of the most interesting hairstyles (thick dreads, detailed high-top fades) and clothing (skillfully tattered tops, crazy prints) the weekend had to offer."

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These comments refer to the 2015 AfroPunk Festival (New York)
2. From http://www.racked.com/2015/9/15/9325959/african-american-appropriation-afropunk-fashion-history-zipporah-gene Accusing Black Americans of Appropriating African Clothing Misses the Point African-influenced styles can be traced back to the Black Power movement. by Nadra Nittle, Sep 15, 2015
..."Black hipsters have gravitated to the tribal-meets-boho look for years now. Picture a Zoe Kravitz or Solange Knowles type, hair styled in a piecey Afro, waist-length braids or locs. She dons a concrete-skimming skirt with red, green, and black print. Her septum ring and face paint, á la the Masai warriors of East Africa, vie for your attention.

At the Afropunk Festival in Brooklyn last month, every other attendee rocked some version of this look. But draping oneself in the colors of the Pan-African flag and sporting tribal tattoos isn’t fashion forward, says African journalist Zipporah Gene. It’s cultural appropriation — even, she insists, when African Americans do it."...

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3. http://thegrio.com/2015/09/08/no-african-americans-culturally-appropriating-african-aesthetics-isnt-a-thing/
No. African Americans ‘culturally appropriating’ African culture isn’t a thing ; Opinion by Demetria Irwin September 8, 2015
..."don’t stamp the cultural appropriation label on the African-American AfroPunk attendees wearing flowing wax print maxi skirts (which are actually of Dutch origin but definitely an on-trend look that is capitalized on and has been inspired by African merchants and designers. That alone shows the complexity of cultural appropriation. Also, for the first generation Americans, reaching back to Africa or the Caribbean for style clues is only a plane ride away to their parents’ place of birth, not a deep dive into Google or fashion mags."

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4. From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecTm5gYZ5Bc
Young Paris: Afropunk 2015 *
"Good afternoon, this is Young Paris. We’re at the HausOAlt

Oh, AfroPunk is all. I was here last year as a guest. It’s funny, I did some social media stuff and a lot of it kinda went viral and people started following the aesthetic where I was going with this afro futuristic, afro-futuristic, traditional, contemporary concept, And it just started rapidly growing an audience. It’s just down to see the timing when it happened and that they’re able to put me on a platform where I can sharing the information. So that’s how I see it hear. Just the sharing.

Well my father co-founded the Congo ballet. And in their lineage they would use different colors to highlight their features. And so the national ballet had like a distinction within the Congo about how they would present themselves. He was a choreographer at thirteen and he continued this lineage. So I just carry on that tradition.

We wear different colors for different reasons. So with red, it symbolizes the blood of our people. Yellow is the sun that provides life. And green is the grass, It gives us food. And the white is –when we lose our ancestors, we wear white in remembrance of them because we carry on their lineage.

So my father died a couple of years ago, Since then I usually only wear the white.

For me I took the idea of this science and built it into a pop culture aesthetic around it."...
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*This is my transcription from the video. Additions and corrections are welcome.

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5. From http://www.vogue.com/projects/13298989/afropunk-fest-2015-street-style/ The Bold And The Beautiful
"As with anything punk—be it the boundary-pushing music, dress, or politics of its most hard-core loyalists—there is always a sense of urgency. The guitar must thrash harder, the music must be louder, and yes, the fashion must be bolder. The message of rebellion and personal freedom has to propagate quickly, honestly, and without pretense.

What the concertgoers of Afropunk’s eleventh annual music festival—which attracted an unprecedented number of iconoclasts to Brooklyn’s Commodore Barry Park—brought this past weekend was style with a same sense of immediacy and purpose. Bucking trends and rules, their dress played mercilessly with color and proportion—yet it was the subtle collision of detailing that drove the most fully realized looks home. SZA’s oversize tank was as impactful as a runway gown, especially as she leapt in the air while tousling her heap of copper curls. Traditional wax print was tied and repurposed into modern crop tops and jumpsuits, retro seventies glam mingled with Prada sneakers, and Americana and Afrofuturism motifs were all captured by Ben Rasmussen’s Polaroid camera.

As he explains, “It wasn’t just the fashion, it was their presence. Everyone we photographed was dressed beautifully, but what moved me was the energy and confidence that they exuded. . . . It is inspiring to see that sense of self.”

Here, that palpable confidence is on full display as we showcase the boundary-pushing style of this year’s Afropunk’s revelers."...
[slide show of photographs of some attendees]

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These two comments refer to the AfroPunk music scene in general and not specifically to the 2015 AfroPunk Festival (New York):
6. From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fanQHFAxXH0 AFROPUNK: The Movie [FULL-LENGTH]

WARNING: Some of the comments in this documentary and in this discussion thread include profanity and the n word.

Zorgoon Trollstones, June 2015
"this!!!!!!!!! man I can relate on so many levels and i'd love to share my piece but im too lazy to put it on the internet. i'd rather do a video or do it in writing. Because the irony is, modern music came from African Americans and Jamaicans. Period. And rock has always been black. From BB King to Jimi Hendrix to Slash to Tina Turner (those vocals!). Soul, RnB, Blues, Funk, Jazz, Rock n Roll, Reggae, Ska, Rocksteady, Bebop, Doowop, Motown. Get in touch with your roots and you'll realize these ghetto kids who make fun of you are making fun of their roots and depriving themselves of their own heritage and inheritance. They're also limiting their own creativity and constricting their self expression. But on top of it all denying their own complexity as human beings, and thus their own humanity.

The Masai and Samburu warriors of Kenya dye their hair/dreadlocks bright red, as do the Hamar people of Ethiopia. The Nuba of Sudan wear elaborate and sometimes spooky face paint, making Black Metal face paint look like a rip-off.. Mohawks are a common African tribal style. Piercings are obvious. The dancing wildly and screaming vocals has always been park of African music, performance and even religion. So is wearing sharp or dangerous looking items as jewelry and adornment. Going through a punk/goth phase and also having been a confused coon helped me grow and get in deeper touch with myself and my culture as a Caribbean American. It was insane how much of our cultures collectively, have permanently transformed Mainstream culture. It's insane. Our hair is also big and wild by nature. Let your afro grow, it's the most rebellious thing you could ever do because it asserts your right to be human. Original. Honest. Your skin alone is the most shocking outfit you could ever wear. I stopped with the hair straightening etc because.. why? Why should I changed the most rebellious hair on earth to conform to a conformist way of anti-conforming lol?"
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This comment was reformatted to enhance readability.

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7. violetviolence79, December 2015
"...i agreed, i have notice since James Spooner is not longer part of the Afro-punk festival, its been going downhill in my opinion, the media only report what they're wearing and very little about the performers, smh"

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Additional comments from videos that are embedded in this post are given below those videos.

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SHOWCASE EXAMPLES
These examples are given in chronological order according to their publishing dates on YouTube with the oldest dated example given first.
Example #1: AFROPUNK Music Festival



iamOTHER, Published on Aug 8, 2013

AFROPUNK is an influential community of young, gifted people of all backgrounds who speak through music, art, film, comedy, fashion and more. Originating with the 2003 documentary that highlighted a Black presence in the American punk scene, it is a platform for the alternative and experimental. Remaining at the core of its mission are the punk principles of DIY aesthetics, radical thought and social non-conformity. AFROPUNK is a voice for the unwritten, unwelcome and unheard-of. Watch more from AFROPUNK here: http://www.youtube.com/afropunktv
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Selected comments from this video's dicussion thread (numbers assigned for referencing purposes only)

I apologize for the spacing errors in this section. I'm not sure why they occurred.

1. Dominiku Chan, 2013
"gr8 show I wish i wore my african dress next year im going in I <3 Brooklyn"

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2. JoJo Myles, 2013
"looking at these displays of individuality make me want to stand out more"

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3. rob mac, 2013
"Not my crowd but its great to see a different variety off black expression and culture from the norm."

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4. Stephen Goodwin, 2013
""Individuals"......yet all the girls have the half shaved head hairstyle....yeh, haven't seen that lately, smh"

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5. DirectedByRocko, 2013
"Unfortunately the festival has become more about style than about music and expression. People come decked out in "costumes" so they can have their photo taken or get in a blog video such as this. It is beautiful to see so many proud black people but some of them are only doing it because it's cool now and for approval"

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6. Aspen Riley, 2013
"thats what my cousin said she said it change its all about fashion now"

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7. Jamal Stead, 2013
SO many Beautiful people in one place, Diversity is Dope!

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8. kevin hayden, 2013
"So some time i get really really jealous of New York because they have the coolest EVER , and they have a every strong Afrocentric scene there. I hope Chicago can catch up one day."

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9. Ariel 0, 2014
"This..would help me as being a young African-American and not having to deal with what my family labels me as<3 But I'm confused?..Are this goers more focused on outfits and being 'unique'? Because I was hoping just to see down to earth, individuals who don't care and a few bands playing punk music or such and such...Err-sorry this is long winded, all I see is hip hop :("

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10. kali4good, 2014
Reply
"You see hip hop becus thats such a huge part of black culture so its only rightbut at afropunk there are also rock bands electro etc. The point of afropunk is an outlet for those who dont belong in this mainstream world. I know a couple of people who have gone i promise you if not all MOST of these people are genuine and thats just who they are. This is a place to let your creativity loose and just be YOU! So many different kinds of people go there. Its for black people who dont fit the mold the media portrays us as... its for the minority"

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11. Jose Ocampo, 2014
"As much as i loved afro punk i laos found it to be very corny, it felt like tons of hipset kids worrying more about what vintage or ethnic clothing their wearing than actually listening to the music its afropunk but anytime somewhat hardcore rock was Played people left because its not hip hop"

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12. TRANZEURO, 2014
Reply
"That's probably because a lot of the people who go to afropunk now aren't even aware of the origins of the festival,they just hear that Chuck D or Questlove etc are performing so they go.I've been going to afropunk since 2006,and every year more and more hip hop artist are included.It started off as a rock/punk oriented festival but as much as I still appreciate AP,I believe it has definitely begun to lose the point and focus of why it was created in the first place.There are plenty of venues and festivals were hip hop artists are able to do their thing.As far as I know afro punk is the only music festival that focuses on black artists who create and perform rock music.I strongly believe it should stay that way."

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13. Drawingunz001, 2014
"does anybody have any info on the last girl wit that violet color hat & gold teeth ? i think i just fell in love."

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14. Henri qsc, 2014
Reply
"she is Erikah Badu <3"

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15. Tahara Cherry. September 2015
"After watching this whole clip I just want a gold grill like Mama Badu."
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This comment refers to the gold covering on singer Eyrkah Badu's teeth.

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Example #2: AFROPUNK FEST 2014



AFROPUNK, Published on Aug 28, 2014

A recap on AFROPUNK FEST 2014. Stay tuned to AFROPUNK TV for more exclusive interviews and performances from the festival.
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Selected comments from this video's discussion thread:
1. Aurora Lara, 2014
"Afropunk is basically a festival for black people who think they're white, but try to act like they don't think they're white by overcompensating on the "mother Africa" tattoos, memorabilia, and wearing tribal clothes mixed in with modern fashion."

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2. U-n-I Survive, 2014
Reply
"So, if they started acting more like what you think qualifies as "black" behavior, then they would be acting more like themselves? That's the problem, society wants to put black people in a box, and if you're not wearing the cultural 'hat' deemed appropriate for you (thug, rapper/r&b singer, nba/nfl star, drug dealer) you somehow aren't really black. It's sad that fellow people of color actually co-sign this mentality. It's mental incarceration. Afropunk (despite it's recent hipster influx) was about black people who didn't fit the above mentioned mold being liberated through music and art."

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3.Aurora Lara , 2014
Reply
"+U-n-I Survive I didn't say anything about 'acting black'."

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4. U-n-I Survive, 2014
Reply
"+Aurora Carmody
You're right you didn't, but you did say that the festival is for black people who think they're white. That seems to suggests to me that (and correct me if I'm wrong) you think that, because the people going to this festival are interested in things not typically associated with black people, they're trying to be something they're not (hence why you said they think they're white). My thing is, how can you propose to know something about an entire group of people without having even interacted with them? As if a choice of music or a band t-shirt (or even a mother Africa tattoo) says anything about who the people who attend the festival really are?"

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5. Aurora Lara, 2014
Reply
"There are enough of these people on Tumblr for me to have an idea of what they're like."

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6. U-n-I Survive, 2014
Reply
"That's just stereotyping. That's no different than someone watching a bunch a videos on Youtube of black people committing crimes and saying "I've seen enough of these people on Youtube to have an idea of what they're like". They're just people with personalities and nuances, just like you. How about instead of judging a group of people you haven't met, go up and introduce yourself to some of them (assuming you live near the type of people that would go to Afropunk), you might actually vibe with one or two, who knows."

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7. Aurora Lara, 2014
Reply
"I guess"

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Example #3: Afro Punk Fest 2015



wblsfm1075, Published on Aug 27, 2015

WBLS was on hand at Brooklyn’s Commodore Barry Park for the annual Afro Punk Festival. Watch as festival attendees enjoyed a full weekend of great music, vibrant art and all around good vibes.

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Example #4: AFROPUNK: The new counter culture



CNNMoney, Published on Aug 26, 2015

The AFROPUNK movement is pushing music and fashion forward. Here's how it's leveraging social and new media to democratize access and accelerate the exchange of images and ideas.
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Selected comments:
1. Claude Leguerre, October, 2015
"This is the 90's "Conscious" Movement's granchild. The clothes, the styles, the dress, the influences, It can't really be "explained" to those who are outside of it in a way they understand:

You are either "of it" or not.
It makes sense, or its doesn't.
You are a part of it, or you're not. Its that simple.

You can have your Lil Waynes, Rick Rosses and Minajes. I'll take this please"

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2. nyeeezy, November 2015
"0:29 i bet shes not fulani"

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3. Richard Swanson, December 2015
Reply
"You have said too much already. this is like hollywood or halloween. They dress up for one or two days then go perm their hair and wear high heel the next. None of these women have ever made anything from cow milk. +nyeeezy"

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ADDENDUM: [TRAX.TV] Afropunk Paris 2015



Trax Magazine Published on Jun 24, 2015

En plus de découvrir en totale immersion le festival Afropunk, notre court-métrage dresse le portrait d’une génération multiculturelle, libre de tout carcans et qui revendique le droit à la différence.

[Google translate:
In addition to discovering the immersive Afropunk festival, our short film portrays a multicultural generation, free from shackles and claiming the right to difference.]

Réalisation : Chayet Chiénin, Manon Tarasconi
Images : Datis Balaï, Manon Tarasconi, Benjamin Carrion, Odhran Odhunn

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Afrocentric Fashions & Other Afrocentric Elements In Floetry's Video "Say Yes"

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases the song and the 2003 video of "Say Yes" by Floetry.

I was impressed by this song and by the afrocentric fashion styles and other afrocentric elements in the video. By "afrocentric elements" I mean those elements that reflect Black African and/or African Diaspora people, interests, and styles. What I interpret as afrocentric in this video include the visual focus on Black people including the young Black child on the subway, the locks (dreadlock) hair styles worn by females and by males, the afrocentric fashions worn by females and males, the break dancing scene in the subway station, and more. Afrocentric clothing styles usually refer to clothing that is made with African print, kente cloth, or other African or pseudo-African fabrics. I'm expanding that definition to include long dresses and Rastafarian caps, and accessories such as the red, black, and green wrist band that the singer in this video wears.

Click http://www.iwantthatwholelook.com/2014/08/afrocentric-fashion.html for an article on women's afrocentric fashions.

The content of this post is presented for cultural, entertainment, and aesthetic reasons.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Floetry for their music. Thanks to the producer of this video and all those who are featured in the video. Thanks also to the publisher of this video on YouTube and the transcriper of this song.

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INFORMATION ABOUT FLOETRY
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floetry
"Floetry is an English R&B duo comprising Marsha Ambrosius ("the Songstress") and Natalie Stewart ("the Floacist"). The group recorded two studio albums, one live album, and sold over 1,500,000 records worldwide. Formed in 1997, Floetry started on the performance poetry stage.

Beginnings: 1997–2002)[edit]

Since moving to the United States in 2000, they have written for Jill Scott, Jazz of Dru Hill, Glenn Lewis (Marsha only), Bilal, and Michael Jackson, for whom Marsha penned the hit 2002 single "Butterflies".

Floetic and Floacism: 2002–03[edit]

In 2002, they signed with DreamWorks Records and released their debut album Floetic, which featured the singles "Floetic", "Say Yes" (released March 2003), and "Getting Late"...

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Floetry - Say Yes



FloetryVEVO, Uploaded on Oct 8, 2009


Music video by Floetry performing Say Yes. (C) 2002 SKG Music L.L.C.

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LYRICS: SAY YES
(as sung by Floetry)

[Intro:]
See I've been watching you for a while your smile and stuff
and I don't know if I can be with you for tonight alright,
is that alright baby, baby

[Verse 1:]
There is only one for me
You have made that a possibility
We could take that step to see, ohh
If this is really gonna be
All you gotta do is say yes

[Chorus:]
All you gotta do is say yes
Don't deny what you feel let me undress you baby
Open up your mind and just rest
I'm about to let you know you make me so
All you gotta do is say yes
Don't deny what you feel let me undress you baby
Open up your mind and just rest
I'm about to let you know you make me so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so,
You make me so, so, so, so, so, so, so, so

[Verse 2:]
Loving you has taken time, taken time
But I always knew you could be mine
I recognize the butterflies inside me
Sense is gonna be made tonight, tonight
All you gotta do is say yes

[Repeat Chorus]

[Ad lib to end]
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Posted by bill arthur, July, 2015 in the discussion thread of the video given above.

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