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Saturday, June 29, 2024

Article Excerpts About The Population Referents "ADOS" (American Descendants Of Slaves) And "FBA" (Foundational Black Americans)

Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest update- October 21, 2024 

This pancocojams post presents excerpts from several selected online articles about ADOS (American Descendants Of Slaves) And FBA (Foundational Black Americans).

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and political purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/07/byron-donals-jim-crow-comments-and.html for the closely related pancocojams post entitled "
Byron Donalds' "Jim Crow" Comments And YouTube Comments About Byron Donalds Being A "Tether" (A Black Person Whose Ancestry Isn't From The United states)."

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This pancocojams post isn't meant to be a presentation of information about what ADOS and FBA are or have been. Instead, most of the article excerpts that are quoted in this post provide opinions that are critical of those concepts and/or movements.

FULL DISCLOSURE
This isn't a neutral post.

I consider myself to be African American (Black American). I am pan-African in ideology and I'm highly distrustful of the motivations of the founders and spokespersons of both the ADOS and the FBA lineages. 
 
People who use the terms "ADOS" and/or "FBA" wouldn't consider me eligible to use those lineage referents. That is because I am Black Caribbean on my mother's side and I 
can't trace any enslaved Black American ancestry on my father's side. (My father was adopted from New York state by a Black family in Michigan. I believe that he was Black/White racially mixed, but I don't know anything about his ancestry.)

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ARTICLE EXCERPTS
These excerpts are presented in no particular order and are numbered for referencing purposes only. 

EXCERPT #1
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Descendants_of_Slavery
"American Descendants of Slavery (ADOS) is a term referring to descendants of enslaved Africans in the area that would become the United States (from its colonial period onward), and to the political movement of the same name. Both the concept and the movement grew out of the hashtag #ADOS created by Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore.[1]

The ADOS movement focuses mainly on demanding reparations for the system of slavery in the United States.[2] They want colleges, employers and the federal government to prioritize ADOS and argue that affirmative action policies originally designed to help ADOS have been used largely to benefit other groups.[2]

Supporters of the ADOS movement say they should have their own ethnic designation on census forms and college applications, and should not be lumped in with other Black people—namely modern Black African immigrants to the United States and Black immigrants from the Caribbean.[2]

[…]

A distinguishing feature of the ADOS movement is its explicit emphasis on black Americans who descended from slavery and its disagreements with black immigrants from Africa and the Caribbean.[2] The group demands "a new designation on the Census with ADOS and another for Black immigrants" to the United States.[4] Supporters of ADOS push the issue on social media with the hashtag #ADOS and state that it "sets out to shift the dialogue around the identity of what it is to be African American in an effort to move the discussion from melanin and properly center the discussion around lineage";[5] they view ADOS as having distinct interests from broader groups, such as people of color or ethnic minorities generally.[3]

[…]

In 2019, some ADOS activists challenged Kamala Harris's authenticity as a Black woman, asserting that she was not "African American" (Harris's father is Jamaican American). The claim suggested that black Americans of immigrant descent, even from countries with a history of slavery under colonial rule (such as Jamaica) do not share the same struggle against racism and discrimination as the descendants of Black people in the United States.[3] The claim that Harris was not authentically black was amplified by right-wing figures, including Donald Trump Jr., and criticized by civil rights leaders,[3] who accused Carnell of engaging in xenophobic "birtherism."[2] Carnell and Moore have also criticized the African-American intellectual Ta-Nehisi Coates for his past support of Barack Obama because of his pushing only for a public study of reparations rather than endorsing reparations.[3]

[...]

Size of movement

The movement is "tiny but outspoken";[3] the number of active supporters is believed to be in the thousands.[2]"...

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EXCERPT #2
From https://ibw21.org/commentary/understanding-ados-movement-hijack-black-identity-weaken-black-unity/ Understanding ADOS:- The Movement To Hijack Black Identity And Weaken Black Unity
By IBW21, January 21, 2020; Prepared By Jessica Ann Mitchell Aiwuyor
"Introduction

The term “American Descendants of Slavery” (ADOS) was created in 2016 to describe and distinctly separate Black Americans/African Americans from Black immigrant communities (Africans, Afro-Caribbeans, Afro-Latinos, etc). The movement claims to advocate for reparations on behalf of Black Americans.

However, this movement’s leadership is linked to right-wing media and white supremacists that have a history of attempting to cause divisions in the Black community,” ADOS leaders say they’ll use the moniker “ADOS” as part of their legal justice claim for reparations. But instead, it is likely to be used to create policies that would further marginalize and oppress Black communities. The ADOS movement is particularly seeking to impact the 2020 presidential election, the 2020 census, and beyond.

ADOS appears to be a highly sophisticated propaganda campaign using the combination of African American history (in order to build trust) along with disinformation and misinformation tactics. Yet, with the support of economist Dr. William “Sandy” Darity and Dr. Cornel West, the ADOS movement has been able to garner legitimacy in various circles – allowing it to grow through support from unsuspecting Black Americans that support reparations.

[…]

ADOS leaders do not believe that Black Americans can or should have any connection with Africa. They tell their followers to trace their lineage to America only and to stop acknowledging Africa as the home of our ancestors.

ADOS leaders have stated that Pan Africanism is dead and that African Americans are more closely connected genetically to white Americans than other people of African descent.”…
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The bold font was originally used in this article.

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EXCERPT #3
From https://www.amazon.com/Foundational-Black-American-Who-Are/dp/B094NTGJY9 Foundational Black American Who We Are Paperback – May 9, 2021 by Christopher L Bowe DC (Author)
"A Foundational Black American is any person classified as Black, who can trace their bloodline lineage back to the American system of slavery. To be designated as a FBA, at least one parent must come from a non-immigrant background in The United States of America. If a person's matrilineal and patrilineal lineage traces back to slavery in the Caribbean, then they are not considered a Foundational Black American."...

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EXCERPT #4
From https://newsone.com/4375128/foundational-black-americans-explained/ Foundational Black Americans: Who Are They And What Do They Stand For? Written by Shannon Dawson, July 19, 2022

"Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch.

Over the last year, you may have seen the phrase Foundational Black American (FBA) tossed around the internet thanks to the “World’s #1 Race Baiter,” Tariq Nasheed. In January, during a Twitter Spaces discussion, the controversial media personality sent the buzzword trending when he argued that Black Americans were the originators of the United States. Since then, the polarizing author and documentarian’s belief has attracted millions of supporters from the Black community, many of whom claim they too identify as a Foundational Black American. But what does the term mean exactly?

The History of the Foundational Black American

According to the Official FBA website, [https://officialfba.com/] Foundational Black Americans are descendants of Black slaves who built the United States from scratch. Followers of the ideology, however, believe that the origins and history of Foundational Black Americans did not begin at the start of slavery in the early 1600s. They strongly believe that FBA’s settled in North America in 1526, when they were allegedly brought over from the Caribbean by a “colonizer” named Lucas Vázquez de Ayllón.

Ayllón and 600 of his men settled on what would later become the South Carolina and Georgia Coast, but they weren’t there for long. The enslaved Black captives organized a successful rebellion against the Spanish colonizers, ultimately forcing them to retreat.

FBA historians believe that the liberated Black people integrated with local Native American tribes in the region and formed their own community and culture as a result.

[…]

The ideology of FBA’s

[…]

On social media, proud FBA ideologists often debate that American lawmakers should pay some form of restitution or even reparations for the “400 years of unpaid slave labour” they endured.

[…]

FBA’s don’t believe in the concept of pan-Africanism. They believe they are a unique ethnic group with complex cultural and societal ideologies different from Africans and other Black immigrants.  Community members often call those who do not identify with the culture “non-FBAs.”

Some FBA-identifying individuals believe that Africans and other Black immigrant communities do not respect them and their lived experiences throughout history.”…

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EXCERPT #5
From https://honestmediablog.com/2019/11/12/whats-the-difference-between-fba-and-ados/ "What’s The Difference Between FBA and ADOS?" Posted by Broderick Russell Jr, November 12, 2019
"Social media is a hub for political commentary, and it’s been my go-to for information on grassroots organizations. In a previous post, the now mainstream ADOS (American Descendants of Slavery) movement and their agenda was addressed. Well, there’s another movement, somewhat similar to ADOS, that’s gotten my attention. FBA (Foundational Black American).

Film producer, author, and radio personality Tariq Nasheed, who coined the term, advised that Foundational Black American refers to one’s culture and lineage; it is not a group or organization. With FBA, you don’t have to have a specific political affiliation, group chapters, or events.

There’s been some discourse between both FBA and ADOS creators, most notably on Twitter, around the lack of clarity for the ADOS movement. The New York Times write-up for ADOS seemed to have been one of the precursors.

[…]

Both Yvette Carnell and Antonio Moore have reiterated that the ADOS movement is a political movement centered around lineage, reparations, and a Black Agenda for African Americans. They had a successful conference at Simmons College of Kentucky this past October, and guest speakers included Marianne Williamson and Dr. Cornel West. Several local chapters have been created in the process as well. “…

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EXCERPT #6
From https://dwomowale.medium.com/why-pan-africanism-matters-lessons-from-ados-vs-fba-c643223b5672 "Why Pan-Africanism Matters: Lessons from ADOS vs. FBA" by Dwayne Wong (Omowale), Nov 13, 2019
…"My initial issue with ADOS was the manner in which the ADOS supporters were criticizing Pan-Africanism. The other issue that I had is how misinformed the ADOS movement has been. Here are just some examples of things that I have addressed. Yvette claimed that the Dutch invented dashikis and then sold them to African slave traders, which was utterly false. Antonio Moore (Tone Talks) has said that people in Africa do not identify as Africans. To help cure his ignorance on this matter, I invited him to Africans Rising’s African Liberation Day mobilization event to show Tone and others in ADOS that there is a very strong Pan-African movement in Africa. Then there are the ADOS supporters who keep spreading the untruth that Marcus Garvey came to America because he didn’t have support in Jamaica. So I have always seen ADOS as a very divisive and misinformed movement made up of people who don’t understand very much about African history, Pan-Africanism, or even their own history as African Americans.

For the most part, the people who supported the ADOS/FBA movement did not seem bothered by the divisiveness of their own movement, until recently when that movement began turning against itself when Tariq Nasheed fell out with Tone and Yvette. One of the issues that Tariq raised is the question of whether or not ADOS is a group or a lineage.

[…]

The problem is that Tone and Yvette are the founders of ADOS. They are the ones who created the label, so ultimately they are the ones to define what ADOS is. Tariq decided to use Foundational Black American (FBA) and then began using FBA interchangeably with ADOS, which created a lot of confusion. People were treating ADOS and FBA as if they were the same thing, but they are not. ADOS is Yvette and Tone’s movement. They co-founded it and continue to remind people that they are the founders of ADOS. It is their movement, not Tariq’s, although Tariq supported ADOS and helped the movement to spread.

[…]

I’ve argued that ADOS was not only divisive because of the line that it tries to draw between African Americans and other African descendants, but the movement has led to a lot of petty infighting among African Americans.

[…]

In my most recent article I addressed Morpheus Unplugged. When ADOS really started gaining traction he was one of those people who tried to present ADOS as a more practical alternative to Pan-Africanism. He recorded a video explaining why he choose ADOS over Pan-Africanism.

[…]

I mention Morpheus Unplugged because he seem to take serious issue with my argument that ADOS is a movement that is mostly talk and little action, but his response to the claims that myself and others have made is to do more videos where he talks about debunking Pan-Africanism. Again, more talk. As I explained in an article on why Togo is an example of modern Pan-Africanism, there are certain political and economic realities which makes Pan-Africanism necessary. No amount of YouTube videos talking about debunking Pan-Africanism can actually undo those realities. Doing so requires work and it requires organization, but the problem with ADOS is that it is a completely disorganized movement. As Morpheus himself admitted, ADOS seems to be imploding.

[…]

Morpheus had some very strong criticisms against me when I began criticizing ADOS. Perhaps if he listened to me he wouldn’t now be expressing concern about the fighting between Tariq and the ADOS co-founders. Morpheus himself said that choose the ADOS movement over Pan-Africanism, and even used the fact that I am a Guyanese to criticize me, rather than addressing my points directly. This the result of siding with a divisive movement that is largely built on personalized attacks against other African people. As I noted before, so long as the divisiveness was aimed towards Caribbean and African people there was no problem, but it’s a problem now because of the internal conflict within ADOS/FBA.

[…]

For some reason the ADOS movement thought that they could spread division and confusion among African people and that it the consequences of doing so would not eventually poison their own movement.

[…]

I just hope everyone who is paying attention to the conflict between ADOS and FBA understands why the ideology of Pan-Africanism is important. Pan-Africanism isn’t about building Wakanda, as Morpheus Unplugged suggests. Pan-Africanism has always been about African people uniting towards a common purpose. The ADOS vs. FBA dispute just further proves why we need unity instead of movements that are built on historical ignorance and divisive rhetoric."

Dwayne is the author of several books on the history and experiences of African people, both on the continent and in the diaspora. His books are available through Amazon. You can also follow Dwayne on Facebook and Twitter."

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EXCERPT #7
From https://www.reddit.com/r/AskTheCaribbean/comments/1ckcn36/do_you_think_the_adosfba_movement_is_a_divide_and/ 
Do you think the ADOS/FBA movement is a divide and conquer strategy funded by conservatives in The US government?
[Pancocojams Editor Note: These are selected excerpts from that subreddict discussion thread. If you're interested in this subject, my recommendation is that you read that entire discussion thread.

Numbers are added for referencing purposes only.]


r/AskTheCaribbean
1. JungianFox, April 2024
Go to AskTheCaribbean

"First, I’m a Black/African American with Pre-Civil War roots and I’ve been growing concerned with all the online BS activism and all these grifters co-opting actual concerns for American Black people.

ADOS stands for American Descendants of Slavery. FBA stands for Foundational Black Americans. Both ideologies are designed to delineate Pre-Civil War African Americans from other black diaspora groups and one of the goals for this is to make it easier to obtain reparations.

At first I was in support for ADOS/FBA because I definitely feel African Americans need a more specific term for our ethnicity and cultural lineage especially in regard to reparations and restorative justice. However the further I gotten into the movement, I noticed the alignment with Republicans and far right movements. Also the xenophobia, anti-African bias and colorism (many exaggerating the European DNA we have - rape blood ain’t no flex and Caribbeans are mixed too). Also what’s annoying is I grew up in the Northeast and had Caribbean, Latino and African friends and they were all Black to me. Also I never felt any confusion over who was who because they did all claim their heritage from the Caribbean or Africa.

Also, people forget Harry Belafonte, Shirley Chisholm, Malcolm X, Louis Farrakhan, Cicely Tyson and others have Caribbean roots. And we all face anti-black racism and share a similar history of slavery and colonization. And it seems stupid to argue over lineage. Majority of Black people in The US are Pre-Civil War Afro Americans and nobody is replacing us. It’s literally the same fear that racist white Anglo Americans had over every immigrant group like the Irish, Italians, Germans, Chinese and now Latinos and Indians.

And we know that governments have used the internet for social engineering and propaganda just like they did with old school media. Because before Twitter, nobody was arguing about this.

We all Black at the end of the day and I hope this FBA/ADOS nativist nonsense doesn’t go beyond the chronically online. Power is in numbers"

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2. adoreroda, April 2024
"
The ADOS/FBA movement isn't an organisation, it's an ideology, so it's nothing that the GOP could fund to begin with. The only thing you are right about is that it is a conservative movement, but the difference is that many if not most black americans are very~extremely socially conservative and are only liberal on paper (largely voting democrat) pretty much only because of race issues. The average cishet "ADOS" black man whether they be from the north, south, or west has similar values to a conservative (southern) white man if you pushed aside the views of race (particularly on topics of queer acceptance, feminism, religious tolerance, diversity, etc.)

It also doesn't help that extreme conservatives and racists are given platforms and often praised within the American-Black (ADOS/FBA whatever) community (people such as Umar Johnson, Hebrew Israelites, erasure of indigenous american history and saying that they were actually African and that black people are the real native americans, etc.) Even amongst white americans extremists like this (equivalents would be people like Nick Fuentes) are not widely regarded or at least superficially accepted compared to black equivalents"

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3.JungianFox/ OP, April 2024
"It’s infuriating because so many of my people are so uneducated on the left and radical views of activists like WEB Dubois, Booker T Washington, Dr King, Malcolm X, Huey P Newton, Monroe Trotter, Lucy Parsons, Ella Baker and Fannie Lou Hamer were. Many people don’t know Pan-Africanism goes back to the 1800s among Black American intellectuals. It definitely seems Evangelical Christianity and cults like NOI and Israelites did a number on a lot of us to be indoctrinated into regressive social values."
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"NOI"=Nation Of Islam

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4. 
adoreroda, April 2024
"I think to certain extents it's resentment for Afro-Caribbeans and African immigrants (or their recent ancestors/descendants i.e. children grandparent w/e) often having better predicaments than their ADOS counterparts, especially Jamaicans and Nigerian Americans. Also doesn't help that the first black president and black vice president (and female vice president) are African and Caribbean rather than ADOS.

I also think something a lot of ADOS (only using this term to distinguish them from Caribbeans and Africans) is that they are very American in their thinking and can't process anything outside of their own framework (ethnocentrism) and also often look down on people who are culturally different from them, even other ADOS (especially queer black people or specifically queer ADOS). The American mindset often times--and especially the conservative variant--is very much "the nail that sticks out gets hammered down"".

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5. 
 my_deleted-account_,April 2024
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Yvette Carnell and PFIR tried their right-wing anti-immigrant pity party only to see it get screwed up by COVID-19. Tariq Nasheed's involvement makes it FBADOSism impossible as a mainstream political force.

The saddest part is that all their so-called evidence, when examined are lies, with usually the exact opposite being true."
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Click https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/2010/10/08/anti-immigrant-groups-continue-greenwashing-campaign for a 2010 news article about the Progressives For Immigration Reform (PFIR). 

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6. 
Specialist-Smoke, June 2024
"
Anytime Steve Bannon is on your side, you're moving in the wrong direction. There's a reason Bannon wants you to focus on slavery. There's no viable path for reparations through slavery. The path to reparations will have to be for what happened after slavery. When Black people paid taxes and didn't recieve the protection of the government.

As with the NOI, the ADOS people are asking for something Bannon can't and won't give. Also as with the NOI, if the KKK supports you and agrees with your message, you're broken and need a new message that doesn't resonate with those whom hate you.

I'm blocked by damn near every ADOS ijiot. I call them out on their love for their colonizer DNA, they're slippery grasp on history, and most importantly, how they sound just like white supremacist. The truth hurts."

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7. 
Specialist-Smoke, 2024
"So do we stop claiming those who aren't FBA? How is this different from other races who do this? You can't separate Black people from other Black groups of people. Slave records aren't well kept, so how would you know if a Black person had roots in slavery?

It's a reductive movement meant to appease and never obtain results. If Bannon, Steve Bannon supports you, then you need to rethink your rethoric."

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EXCERPT #8- DEFINITIONS FOR THE WORD "TETHER" USED AS A PARTICULAR POPULATION REFERENT (revised on October 19, 2024)

Here's two definitions from https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/tether for the noun "tether":
a

: a line (as of rope or chain) by which an animal is fastened so as to restrict its range of movement

b

: a line to which someone or something is attached (as for security)

A crewman can clip the tether of his harness to the [safety line] and leave it clipped as he makes his way forward and aft".

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Here are some urbandictionary.com definitions for the word "tether" when it is used as  a verb or a noun by Black people from the United States who identify themselves as "
Foundational Black Americans (FBA) or as American Descendants Of Slaves/ADOS) or as used by their supporters or people influenced by FBA/ADOS people.    

* Urban dictionary.com is an online dictionary of slang words, phrases, and sayings. Visitors to that website submit their definitions of particular words to that dictionary.

As of October 19, 2024 there are five urbandictionary.com pages for the word "tether" and forms of that word. However, only the first page contains seven definitions for "tether" that pertain to its use as a population referent. 

Here is the earliest urban dictionary entry:
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Tether

A slur used by ados and fba cultists as a means to degrade and intimidate black immigrants from across the globe

Ados npc 134685: “ThESe TeTHerS KeEp UnDERmiNing Us!”

by TheBaiterX January 19, 2022, https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tether
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As of October 19, 2024, this definition was upvoted by 111 visitors to that page and downvoted by 283 visitors to that page. As such, it is ranked as the fifth out of seven definition for that term (when it is used as a population referent). The ranking order of urbandictionary.com definitions is  is subject to change over time.[For the record, I didn't submit any up or down votes for any of these entries.] 

Here are the first two visitor submitted definitions as of Oct. 19, 2024 at 9:30 PM EDT. 

 https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Tether

Definition #1

"Tether

A term used by members of the American Negro ethnic group (refered to later in history as colored, African-American, Black, FBA/ADOS) to describe African and/or Caribbean immigrants who move to America for economic opportunity using the benefits of the American Negro Civil Rights struggle while simultaneously disparaging the history, legacy, and lineage of the Negro American movement.

I don't know why Kuku Kufi is on the news saying African-Americans don't need reperations, he/she is a whole tether. Why are they even in the conversation? Why do they keep saying WE? Yo, that's a whole first generation immigrant.

by Crispus Attucks Reloaded September 1, 2022"
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upvoted by 560 people/downvoted by 121 people 

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Definition #2

"Tether

A black person who moved from Africa or the Caribbean to the United States and pretends to be a Black American native to the country. Often they take anti-Black, white supremacist view points despite being black.

Jafari comes from Ghana, he’s always talking bad about Black Americans, but he wants to appropriate their culture when it’s convenient for him. He’s a tether.

by Red Joker August 4, 2022"
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upvoted by 321 people/downvoted by 66 people 
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As of October 19, 2024 there are four additional definitions for "tether" (as a population referent) on that urbandictionary.com page.

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Saturday, June 22, 2024

Black Women Denouncing Their Membership In Historically Black Sororities (Article Excerpt & Selected Comments)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents an article excerpt and selected comments from the June 8, 2024 Washington Post  article by Samantha Chery entitled "Influencers are denouncing their Black Greek groups as ‘demonic’ ".

This pancocojams compilation particularly focuses on some comments that mention politics and on some comments that mention comparisons between historically Black Greek letter organizations and historically White Greek letter organizations.  

The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Samantha Chery for this article and thanks to all those who are quoted in this pancocojams post.

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ARTICLE EXCERPT - "INFLUENCERS ARE DENOUNCING THEIR BLACK GREEK GROUPS AS 'DEMONIC" 
 Influencers are denouncing their Black Greek groups as ‘demonic’ By Samantha Chery

June 8, 2024 at 7:54 p.m. EDT

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/2024/06/08/black-greek-divine-nine-d9-denounce/

"The “Divine Nine,” a group of prestigious Black fraternities and sororities, is contending with hundreds of videos accusing them of idolatry or worse.

When Candace Junée was a senior at Washington University in St. Louis, she walked into a dark, candlelit room and knelt on a pillow as she prepared to join Alpha Kappa Alpha, the world’s oldest Black Greek-letter sorority.

[…]

Junée didn’t think much about the ceremony until a year after she graduated, in 2015, when she joined a new church and heard members say Christians shouldn’t belong to Black sororities and fraternities like hers. Already inactive in her sorority’s activities, she told The Washington Post, she revoked her membership privately through prayer. Then last year, after some of Junée’s acquaintances told her God wanted her to leave AKA permanently, she posted videos on YouTube and TikTok calling the rituals she went through “openly demonic” and the sorority a breeding ground for “idolatry.”

She is part of a growing number of people who have publicly denounced their affiliation with a group of the largest historically Black sororities and fraternities, the National Pan-Hellenic Council or “Divine Nine.” There are hundreds of videos in the same vein as Junée’s, either condemning the groups as anti-Christian and paganist, or defending them from those accusations.

Renouncements go back decades in Black Greek-life communities, but public denouncements of the groups have become especially prominent on social media, where confessional-type videos crop up regularly with massive audiences. The phenomenon has riled many of the Divine Nine’s 2.7 million members and drawn criticism from prominent group members who view many of the denouncers as misinformed, distracting from the work Black fraternities and sororities have done in their communities.

Delta’s international president Elsie Cooke-Holmes told The Post that less than 1 percent of its members choose to leave, and that the sorority “will not be distracted from our audacious social justice and civil rights agenda, especially in a consequential election year — where our democracy hangs in the balance.”

The NPHC declined to comment on the denunciations, and The Post did not receive a response from the top leadership of eight of the nine organizations: Alpha Phi Alpha Fraternity, Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority, Kappa Alpha Psi Fraternity, Omega Psi Phi Fraternity, Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Sigma Gamma Rho Sorority and Iota Phi Theta Fraternity.

Black Greek-letter organizations formed in the 20th century as havens of sisterhood and brotherhood for college students who were generally discriminated against and barred from joining existing sororities and fraternities. The groups continue to be fixtures in Black culture, holding fundraisers, voter registration drives and stepping and strolling performances. “Crossing” into one of the organizations through a mix of public and secretive rituals has facilitated lifelong career connections and friendships, and a sense of connection to famous Divine Nine members such as the Rev. Martin Luther King Jr., who pledged to Alpha Phi Alpha and Vice President Harris, an AKA.

It’s unclear how much the relatively high rate of religiosity among Black Americans, as found by the Pew Research Center, has to do with the denunciations, which have appeared online for at least a decade and spread by word-of-mouth before the internet. All of the Divine Nine groups have Christian clergy members, such as Arline-Bradley, who considers the groups “biblically based” but not religious.

[…]

Lawrence Ross, who coined the phrase “Divine Nine” and wrote a book on its history, became an Alpha Phi Alpha member at the University of California at Berkeley in 1985. He remembers that some students would leave after joining Bible studies in which their involvement in the fraternity was questioned.

The grandson of a minister and the immediate past president of Alpha Phi Alpha’s Inglewood, Calif., chapter, Ross said public denunciations have the “intellectual nutritional value of a Snicker[s] bar.”

“We live in an age where we’re looking for quick bursts of notoriety,” he said. “It really does feel a little bit narcissistic in terms of how this is manifesting itself in terms of the public facing, ‘I’m doing this thing.’ … which in its essence tells me that the person really shouldn’t have been a member of the organization in the first place.”…

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THAT ARTICLE'S COMMENT SECTION

https://www.washingtonpost.com/entertainment/2024/06/08/black-greek-divine-nine-d9-denounce/

A total of 707comments are published in that section. Comments are now closed. 

All of these comments are from June 10, 2024. Numbers have been added for referencing purposes only

1. Bsquare
Make no mistake, this is a fringe movement, not a mainstream one and it only feels more prominent or emergent because of the way social media and video are throwing fuel on the fire. As was noted in the article, the percentage of people who actually formally leave (for any reason) is around 1%. That's not national news.

My main question is why this article is filled with glamorous photos of the critics who filmed these long videos and wrote books (and thus profit in various ways from taking this position) but has zero photos of the quoted sources who defend the groups (nor the famous, iconic figures cited in the article who were proud members). The art selection alone shows poor journalistic judgement.

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2. Mo-RFD
..."the pink binder she received with AKA’s rules, regulations and pledges was co-opting scripture verses.

That sounds like every organization with a religious connection (Christian or otherwise) including most Greek organizations no matter their "color."

I think the real issue, why this has become an issue, was the description of the sorority's purpose. Read this carefully.

... the sorority “will not be distracted from our audacious social justice and civil rights agenda, especially in a consequential election year — where our democracy hangs in the balance.”

Social justice? Civil rights agenda? Democracy?

Hmm, could there be a political party who is against those concepts? Who would like to turn people away from working towards just high ideas and thus say such groups are, say, anti-Christian?

Join the MAGA megachurch and realize your place in society... supporting Trump which means not supporting social justice, not supporting civil rights, and definitely not supporting democracy."
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3. Dmpfromva
I think the reporter got snookered here. Smells like "content creators seeking fame and fortune," if not Bannon's "flood the zone" tactic for creating confusion and dissension to benefit the hard right White -- this time directed at successful Black organizations."

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4. TransparentTruth
"Dumb article, dumb people.

First off, every presidential election year, the folks who don't want black folk to vote always float something to try to distract black folk.

When Hillary ran it was her use of the phrase Super Predators

When Biden ran it was the argument of American blacks and Carribean blacks who came to America after the Civil rights movement

Now this year it's this mess.

It won't work whomever started this mess. The number is up to 200 people denouncing?

Let me give you a clue, if you are truly a member, you are issued a membership and number. Every organization has that information. So when the organizations decide to address this, they will definitely tell you how many where really members.

Secondly, you would not openly print their induction process either.

Just really dumb on WAPO part to even print this."

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5. Tessa J Jackson
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As someone who’s been a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority for 35 years, I was curious about this movement encouraging people to publicly renounce their membership in the historically-Black fraternities and sororities colloquially known as the Divine Nine (or “D9” for short), and subsequently denounce them as demonic cults. My research led me to a website with links to sermons from an assortment of Black megachurch pastors encouraging Blacks to renounce their membership in not just the D9, but a host of other historically-Black organizations—including Jack and Jill, an organization that supports Black parents. When I decided to check out the pastors, I went to their church websites, and was always presented with either an opportunity to financially support their ministry, buy their books or sign up for one of their fee-based programs. A perusal of their social media pages, usually showed them and their wives, often referred to as the “first lady”, dressed in expensive clothing and enjoying lifestyles that would be out of reach for the vast majority of Blacks, even those of us in D9 organizations. In one case I saw a first lady enjoying what appeared to be a congregation-hosted, cowboy-themed 55th birthday party that must have cost thousands of dollars.

What I gleaned from my trip down the rabbit hole is that these denouncers and renouncers are often the same people spending thousands of dollars a year on love offerings, anniversary celebrations and birthday parties for megachurch pastors and first ladies, and that the Black clergy encouraging them to renounce their D9 memberships are probably more concerned about eliminating competition for Black social and philanthropic dollars than they are about saving Black souls."
 
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6. SpirantMars7843
"Every story can't be a long investigation, but this does leave a whole lot to be desired. Only two organizations, both sororities, are referenced here with anecdotes. Hard to tell if this is a real "thing" or just limited to sororities, and only then in small numbers. And, it also seems sort of narrow to only look at it from the black Greek perspective. Also hard to believe that this story was done without venturing over to the campus of Howard University, where some of these organizations were founded, to get some perspective."

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7. Shardanacles
"I get the feeling most of those denouncing their Greek membership are voting for Trump. So...."

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8. Innocuous Commentator 
"Why is this coming up now? Are right wingers finding all kind of ways to trash VP Harris for being an AKA?"

A Republican friend told me recently that a bunch of wealthy Black people (including Oprah) belonged to the Illuminati. SMH.

Who is making up this stuff?"

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9. VegasTed
"This is not unique to the black Greek system. I remember being in seminary and some fellows got very “convicted” and renounced their membership in the Masons, Shriners, Eagles, and other various predominantly white fraternities.

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10. appelerunchatunchat
"Thank you for this article with so many details from a very sane normal person getting clicks claiming joining a sorority was somehow worshipping a Roman goddess. (Sarcasm.). I’d bet money there is a pile of money and influence hidden behind the scenes here creating this trend."

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11. Travel is my life
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Oh good grief. When I was in college I belonged to a sorority full of white girls - a sorority that was started in the south. We had secret initiation rituals with people holding candles and wearing all white and intoning secret mantras. If people are going to crucify these Black sororities for their rituals, they probably need to target all sororities because my guess is that mine wasn’t the only one with a crazy, secret initiation. Not only that, we have some members (alums) who are pretty well known in news and entertainment circles. Why does this article focus only on Black sororities?"

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12. LlNancy
"Exactly. I’d be a lot more worried about Skull & Bones’ membership."

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13. MattJones 69
"Is it only black sororities that are being criticized? Are there white women saying the same stuff about white sororities? That would have been helpful context in the article. That way we'd know if there's people criticizing all sororities or if it's specific to black ones."

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14. Summer Alibi
"Oh, for the love of God. Sororities and fraternities have always been like this. I remember hearing my mother recount how her Kappa Kappa Gamma sisters in the 50s marked the occasion of girls announcing they'd been "pinned" (going steady, sort of) or become engaged. Candles, recitations, etc. This was in the 70s and my reaction was 'what the H?' Once I arrived (at the same- almost 100% white, BTW) campus, I found out the same silliness was still going on. Sexist maybe, Satan, nope."

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15. SalemVa
"A bit more info about what is pledged would be helpful in understanding what is considered "demonic" about Greek sororities and fraternities. Also, a contrast as to whether members of non-Black sororities and fraternities have similar concerns about pledging that they determine to have been "demonic." Many words in this article, but little information.

Certain sub-groups of Christians have a deep affection for claiming anything not just like them as "demons". I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that Black Christians are as susceptible as White ones.

I'm reminded of how the KKK denounced Morris Dees, the SPLC attorney suing the Texas klan out of business, as "Demon Dees". Or how MAGA types declare that any election they lose must be the result of satanic intervention.

The whole thing is silly. Either silly or being exploited for political purposes, which wouldn't surprise me .... is Steve Bannon behind this ..."

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16. ERBrown1913
"Interesting. All these women are in the business of “content creation” which, more often than not, means perpetuating false narratives. The real story is that they joined organizations with the hope of achieving popularity while on campus as opposed to being focused on the mission and principles of their respective organizations, which is to serve mankind as we represent God and His love to the world. We are about the business of uplifting our communities through service and advocacy, which is being about the Lord’s work. And I also recall that even Jesus was accused of being a double agent and casting out demons on behalf of the ruler of demons by those who were jealous and sought to turn people against Him. What was His response? “Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation, and every city or house divided against itself will not stand. If Satan casts out Satan, he is divided against himself. How then will his kingdom stand?” Matthew 12:25-26. So to all these Pharisees disguised as social media content creators, I say, “Get behind me. I rebuke you in the mighty and matchless name of Jesus.” For the rest of us, stay focused. Organizations that have struggled to protect our right to vote and to keep issues of importance to the Black community at the forefront of public discourse for over 100 years are now under attack in an election year. Let’s not be fooled by the ridiculous distractions."

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17. ginkgoranch, June 10, 2024
"The rituals described are similar to those in predominantly white sororities, so it makes me wonder if the phenomena is more widespread. I am not an apologist for Greek college organizations, but their history stems back to their 19th century founding when the symbols, cultural practices and philosophies of ancient civilizations were well known and college students were expected to know them as part of their education. Since the vast majority of college students today take only enough humanities courses to fulfill graduation requirements, my opinion is they don't have the powers of discernment to silo their organization's rituals cobbled from a hodgepodge of ancient mythology by their organization's founders from the teachings of their particular brand of Christianity, which in all cases post dates ancient Greece."

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18. StuckinTexas
"Greek eternities and sororities are, by nature, elitist and exclusionary, but, "demonic"? The obvious retort of "Oh, that's just ridiculous!" doesn't seem to slow their critics down. Maybe those denouncing the Black fraternities and sororities as "demonic" will take the next step and denounce them as "communists". Or is that too out of date?"

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19. 39aka94
"I think a more appropriate title would be "Wanna be influencers are denouncing..." because public posts are made for attention-seeking and most of these people have few followers on social media. The largest views they receive are on these types of proclamation posts. I believe the majority, if not all, of the people who choose to do this genuinely love the Lord and want to serve Him. However, people who love the Lord still come across bad theology and if they are already going through other challenges mentally and/or emotionally, it's easy to be sucked in. The idea of leaving an organization that no longer meets your needs or fits your life is not unheard of or a bad thing. But to proclaim demonic and anti-Christian behaviors are being promoted by Black Greek Letter Organizations is false. I would love to know how a demonic organization, as some are claiming BGLOs to be, is so focused on giving back to the community and uplifting others. Seems pretty incongruous when the Bible states the Enemy comes to steal, kill and destroy. (John 10:10)"

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20. ml3d
"It's the Divine Nine for me - just call them the Nine."

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21. 39aka94
"Yeah, but 'divine' is not only a term that is about God--and it rhymes which was really the main thing."

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22. Notmyname__31415
"This is a hit piece.

Autopsies of 2020, when they’re done, will almost certainly demonstrate that the Divine Nine provided a massive network/infrastructure boost to get out the vote for Biden/Harris."

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23. Hoosier74
"Such a weird article. I mean, honestly. Sororities have funky, pseudo-religious rituals. Fraternities have funky, pseudo-religious rituals. All of them, regardless of race or creed of the members. Demonic? Nope. Play-acting. I mean, many of the founders of our country were Freemasons and they have their own pseudo-religious initiation rituals. Why not an article on people who abandoned Freemasonry? There are women’s chapters, so do them."

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24. Miss Elb
"Oh please, what about all the crazy things that white sororities and fraternities do?"

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25. Whyy Ben
"Why does this feel like some psyop to further depress the black vote. Who's the most well known black sorority member? VP Kamala Harris.

Please stop reporting on influencers without deeply vetting them..... they get their money from somewhere."

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26. dfrierson_Howard
"With everything going on in the world, the Washington Post found this newsworthy. Denouncers, as the article notes, have been doing this for decades. As a member of one of the Divine Nine organizations for 25 years and a Christian brought up in the Baptist church since birth, I have become quite familiar with these stories. As Ross said, particularly in undergraduate settings, shortly after their initiation, you find a few people who may start attending religious events, are relatively new to Christianity, and/or Bible studies and are quite impressionable. I have always left room for those individuals to follow their newly discovered convictions. However, my issue with this article is how they featured the “denouncers” and their views without truly exploring how they came to these assumptions. How are they Biblically based? What research did they do prior to joining? Most importantly, was there a trauma or person that cultivated this new found revelation about an organization you chose to join? Still, to top it off, you feature these folks in photo shoots. If the Post insist on writing about this topic, providing a basic “hearing from both sides” is not enough. Just like anything else, interrogating a premise or in this case, accusation of “daemonic and/or demigod worship” is needed. Do better."

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27, Cheryl A.E. Parris
"When I see WaPo write something around the influence peddling of Skull and Bones and those who renounce it, then I will pay attention. Meanwhile as I read this, I think about all the times my Sorority members have supported members and issues at the Capital. I think that it may be intimidating, seeing hundreds of Black women who are trained in advocacy, dressed in red suits, attending hearings. They easily catch anyone's eye and some people's ire.

While I hesitate to comment on their faith journey, those media read pictures are interesting"

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28. MetroDCNative70
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So: Washington Post taken over by Murdoch’s former crisis managers. Questionable ethics of these managers highlighted by NPR and New York Times.

WaPo Style section publishes a quasi-hit piece on Black Professional Power Networks - most of which are now over a century-old and at the core of Black survival on White College Campuses and in White College Towns.

Hit-piece is sourced by questionable “social media influencers” who cite their “Christian roots” (that sound suspiciously *different* than most Black Christians) as the basis for their concern and denouncement of the organizations.

Hit piece article drops 5 months prior to a general election where these same power networks will work to defeat the very political movement behind the new WaPo editor’s benefactors.

Sounds odd? Perhaps less far-fetched than random people being cited as sources for an alleged trend of people leaving core organizations in the Black community because of “concerns” over rituals that emerged in dreams."

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29. Bronx Guy
"You are way, way overthinking this."

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MetroDCNative70
30."Probably less than the author of this article."

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31.SoloCidAlpha
"Not in this day and age. Very plausible."

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32. WuDonovan
"Young women of college age seem to have a thing for rituals, here is Flannery O'Connor describing the phenomena in white girls in the 1940s:

"I have noticed that the girls in the local college love to have ceremonies in which they light candles or hold lighted candles—any excuse will do (e.g. physical fitness week). I have decided this is because they have never been to a really liturgical service where these things have their proper place and are relegated to the background and have meaning." Flannery O'Connor, 1957"

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33. Ann Meadows Helvie
"This is sad. I'm White, but I have seen for decades the amazing work that Black sororities and fraternities have done -- and the beautiful, strong, lifelong bonds of friendship and fellowship forged in them. No one is pledging themselves to ancient deities. Since the 18th century, and certainly the 19th century, ancient Greek and Roman deities have been regarded simply as metaphors for civic and secular virtues such as intelligence, diligence, etc."

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34. sisterj
"I am really confused. Why the picking on of Black Divine Nine??? There are more college grads in predominantly White organizations the go through weird rituals.

I suspect some form of racism here by folks who cannot tolerate Black women and men banned together doing good for the poor, for equality, justice issues and promoting excellence in education. These Racists are using a preverted form of Christianity (Trump evangelism?) to brainwash the sincerely, well meaning women mentioned in this article, and through it others to denigrate great organizations. I think the author is a pawn in this racist-evil. Evil always presents itself as a good. I am White and personally know and have worked with, generous, wonderful, civic-minded Black women who are proud members of both Delta and Alpha. There is more to this social media effort than meets the eye."

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35. bigmacinpittsburgh
"Same old same old, divide and then conquer!"

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36.Somethingbitme
"This “demonic” label is being used by both white and black Christian’s in America and it’s spreading like tentacles in every aspect of American life. They are even going so far as labeling people who do not prescribe to their beliefs are themselves demonic and under the influence of the devil."

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37. Alpineview
"This phenomenon is rooted in political propaganda. If you watch some of these videos attacking Black Greek organizations, you will often find links to Black conservative figures openly connecting the "demonic" fraternities and sororities to the Democratic party. It is all part of a cynical ploy to create divisions within the Black community. Black fraternities and sororities have--historically and in recent elections-- been shown to have enormous political influence, and this besmirching of their reputation is a thinly disguised attempt to manipulate Black voters."

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38. deborah
"Black fraternities and sororities have done untold and unsung good for African American communities. If a few members have imagined demons at work, then they and the organizations are better off with them gone. Too bad that social media has given them a platform with which to spread their toxins. Too often, social media foments and feeds paranoia and delusion, especially among the uniformed who are so gullible to conspiracy theories. Sheesh."

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39. FelixLeChat2
"Why would this story not look at comparable organizations to see where the facts lie relative to a baseline? Initiation "rituals" are hokey performance art, probably in nearly all sororities and fraternities including Knights of Columbus and the Masons. This is a New York Post quality article."

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40.michelerc
"Cooncidence that all this is happening during a huge resurgence of overt racism? when we recently had our first Black president who was vilified by far right Christian nationalists? when we have our first person of color VP?

Bet not. Dig into the origins of these rumors, I bet you find somebody's deliberate agenda to further divide us, and weaken/discourage Black voters."

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41. Unfragile Blackness
"Demonic? No.

Elitist? Without a doubt."

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42. S. William Laney
"Saw this coming... when college educated, black women were recognized as influential in the last election I knew the disinformation division of the Republican party would be coming for them."

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43. Alan Seals
"And what exactly are Republicans doing? Right or wrong (or just nutty) it sounds like these people made up their own minds. Are Republicans dressing up as black sorority sisters to make these videos?"

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44.Taichione
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You were prescient. Backlash against Black women in power predictable."

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45. Alpineview
"Exactly. This is part of a deliberate strategy."

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46. PTMESQ
"I really wonder about the true intent of this article and it’s publishing at this time in our nation’s history. And my wondering about the current defiling of Black Greek organizations that have done so much good for well over a century for both their members and the Black community at large, leads me to believe that the etiology of this article is more nefarious than any of the allegations against these beloved organizations that it makes. Do check yourself and your motives, Dear Author. I think you have been willingly used. Bigly."

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47. pioneer1
"Your local Republican Party and Russian disinformation machine at work."

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48. Pittsburgh Darla
"This tension between churches and fraternal organizations isn’t new or race specific. When I was preparing for confirmation over 55 years ago in a very conservative Lutheran sect, I was taught that Masons, Eastern Star, Rainbow Girls, etc. were not aligned with our beliefs. I’m not weighing in on the validity of the position, just sharing that it’s not new news!"

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49. tidelandermdva
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The mutual hostility between democratic Masonry and authoritarian Catholicism is legendary. Still alive in my Mason father in law and my Catholic father fifty years ago."

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50. BodeBoy
"Is this just Black fraternities and sororities or does this apply to all Greek-lettered organizations?"

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51. tidelandermdva
"It is just a few nutcase attention seekers that for some reason -- Black sororities' social activism? -- the Post's Murdoch regime chose to highlight."

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52. Nell Eakin
"Organization is power. Who is behind the bad mouthing of this black org? Probably the same folks who organized to put their christian cheater fascists into SCOTUS, and who have made up and propagated insane lies concerning BLM..."

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53. MattJones99
This is so weird. Are there people who feel the same about white Greek orgs? If not, then why just black ones. And, "demonic"? What?! I've never heard of anyone accusing any Greek org (black, white, or otherwise) of being "demonic" until reading this. Are these people for real, or are they mentally ill or otherwise seeking attention? I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around all of this."

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54. Olive US
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So what about the white Christian men and women--they don't have to renounce any of their greek affiliations? Sounds like these people joined an offshoot cult of Christianity. Step one of any cult is have the pledge cut ties with those most likely to save them from the cult."

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Last of the Republic
"Black Greek-letter organizations formed in the 20th century as havens of sisterhood and brotherhood for college students who were generally discriminated against and barred from joining existing sororities and fraternities. The groups continue to be fixtures in Black culture, holding fundraisers, voter registration drives and stepping and strolling performances.” This has always been my understanding. Welcome to evangelical Christianity. As a former Christian, now atheist, I assure you: there is no devil, nothing to fear, no spiritual wars to be fought, no sin to worry about. Just an opportunity to build lifelong relationships in these organizations and give back to society in a positive way. So glad I left these crazies behind."

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Friday, June 21, 2024

"Phi Beta Sigma's Got Soul" (Historical Black Greek Letter Fraternity Videos & Chant/Song Lyrics)


Xavier Durden, May 4, 2011

The Brothers of Alpha Eta perform a tribute to its fraternity and graduating members. IYHIDM

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases one video of a member of the historically Black Greek letter fraternity Phi Beta Sigma Sigma singing "Phi Beta Sigma's Got Soul" by himself and one video of a gathering 6000 Sigmas singing this song. 

This post also showcases three videos of members of  Phi Beta Sigma chanting "Phi Beta Sigma's Got Soul" while they do a stepping routine.

The basic lyrics to this Phi Beta Sigma song/chant are included in this post.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to the composer/s of this song and thanks to all those who are featured in these videos. Thanks also to the publishers of these videos on YouTube.
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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
This blog presents lyrics of historically Black Greek letter fraternity and sorority chants and songs for historical, cultural,and aesthetic purposes.

However, it's important to honor the tradition that these chants and songs are only performed by members of that specific fraternity or sorority.

The only other persons who are supposed to sing this song besides Sigmas are members of Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc., their sister organization.

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LYRICS - PHI BETA SIGMA GOT SOUL

When I was a young boy
My daddy said to me
He said "Listen me up my little my little child
A Sigma you're going to be."

And I said "Oh daddy, please revel your secrets to me".
And he said "Keep your heart and mind on Sigma
But keep your eyes on me."

And he said
"Oh,  oh Phi Beta Sigma got soul"
Phi Beta Sigma got Soul.

Ah P-H-I  Ah B-E-T-A  Ah S-I-G-M-A.
Ah P-H-I  Ah B-E-T-A  Ah S-I-G-M-A.

Oh Phi Beta Sigma’s got Soul

Oh Phi Beta Sigma’s got Soul

Oh Phi Beta Sigma’s got Soul

Oh Phi Beta Sigma’s got Soul
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These appear to be the basic lyrics for this Phi Beta Sigma chant/song. Additions and corrections are welcome.

Some versions of this chant/song include these lines:
"I love my Blue Phi
I love my Blue Phi
I love my, I love my Blue Phi"

Some versions of this song include these lines:
"Abracadabra, Alakazam, Magic don’t make no Sigma man.
Oh, I'm not Donald duck....if you didn't pledge Sigma, you aint worth a !@#$."*
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Those letters stand in for the profanity word that isn't spoken.

Additional versions of this Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc chant can be found online.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #2 - 
6000 Phi Beta Sigmas - Got Soul Chant

Xavier Durden King David Productions, Jul 20, 2014

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #3 -  UAlbany Phi Beta Sigma soul

Ramon Hinojosa, Nov 20, 2017

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #4 -Phi Beta Sigma Got Soul Spring 2018 - Lincoln University PA

 

Michelle W, Apr 17, 2018 Phi Beta Sigma Probate Spring 2018 - Lincoln University PA

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SHOWCASE VIDEO #5 - 
Phi Beta Sigma's Got Soul!

Computer Training for Entrepreneurs (Jimmy Davies), Jan 4, 2024

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Thursday, June 20, 2024

Comments About A Sigma Who Is Also A Prince Hall Mason Singing "Phi Beta Sigma Got Soul" Along With Another Sigma


Equites Dei Training Solutions, Nov 22, 2011

Kappa Iota Chapter of Phi Beta Sigma, 2011

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Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases a 2011 YouTube video of two brothers from the historically Black Greek letter fraternity Phi Beta Sigma singing a portion of their song "Phi Beta Sigma Got Soul". One of those brothers wears a necklace with the Prince Hall Mason square symbol.

This post presents information about Prince Hall Masons and also presents information about Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. In addition, this pancocojams post presents selected comments from the discussion thread of this showcase video.

The content of this post is presented for historical, cultural, and aesthetic purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners. 

Thanks to the composer of this song and thanks to the brothers who are featured in this video. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the producer of this video on YouTube.

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INFORMATION ABOUT PRINCE HALL MASONS
From https://www.blackpast.org/african-american-history/prince-hall-masons-1784/
"The Prince Hall Masons are the oldest and largest group of Masons of African origin in the world. Today there are forty Grand Lodges of Prince Hall Freemasonry in the United States, Canada, the Bahamas, and Liberia. These Grand Lodges preside over more than 5,000 lodges. All of them claim descent from the Prince Hall Grand Lodge of Massachusetts which is traced back to the African Lodge No. 459.

Prince Hall, a native of Bridgetown, Barbados, West Indies, was freeborn on September 12, 1748, the son of Thomas Prince Hall, an Englishman, and a free colored woman of French heritage. In 1765, at the age of 17, Hall worked for his passage on a ship to Boston where he became a leatherworker. Eight years later, he had acquired property and was eligible to vote.

On March 6, 1775, Hall, who was a minister with a Methodist Church in Cambridge, Massachusetts, joined fourteen other free blacks of Boston who all became Masons at British Army Lodge, No. 58, then attached to one of General Thomas Gage’s regiments stationed in Boston. Hall and the other newly initiated Masons were granted the authority to meet as a separate lodge, to march in parades, and to bury their dead. They were not granted permission to confer degrees or perform any other Masonic work.

Nine years later on March 2, 1784, Hall petitioned the Grand Lodge of England, asking for a warrant for a charter that they had been denied by the white Masons of Massachusetts. The warrant was approved and Hall established the first lodge of African American Masons in North America known as African Lodge No. 459.

Although the status of the African American Masons improved, they were not considered a “full” Masonic lodge until 1787 when Prince Hall received a charter from the Grand Lodge of England, the mother of all Freemasonry. In 1787, African Lodge No. 459 became African Lodge No. 1 with Prince Hall as its leader. The Masons were independent of the United Grand Lodge of England. They created separate jurisdictions comprised of mostly African American members. In 1791, the Prince Hall Grand Lodge was founded to govern the three then existing black Masonic lodges with Prince Hall as its first Grand Master, a position he held until his death in December 1807. Black Freemasonry evolved from the establishment of this Grand Lodge.

Due to prevalent racism and segregation in North America, it was impossible for African Americans to join most mainstream Masonic lodges until the late 20th century. Yet, because Prince Hall Mason lodges were African American, North American Grand Lodges denounced Prince Hall Lodges and Prince Hall Masons, deeming them illegitimate and refusing to recognize their authority. Until 1865 most Prince Hall lodges were in the North, but after the Civil War, black Masonry quickly spread across the South, often led by Northern-born Masons who became active in Reconstruction politics.

From Reconstruction until 1900, Prince Hall Masonry remained a highly prestigious but small fraternity. In the early twentieth century the membership rapidly expanded, lessening its exclusivity. Although all Masonic Lodges today are theoretically racially integrated, white Grand Lodges in Mississippi, Florida, Arkansas, Louisiana, South Carolina, Alabama, Georgia, and West Virginia still do not recognize Prince Hall Grand Lodge members as legitimate Masons. Nonetheless, the Prince Hall Masons include tens of thousands of black and some non-black members throughout the United States, Canada, the Bahamas, and Liberia."
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Men can be members of a masonic organization (and their female relatives can be members of their female affiliated organizations) without being students of a college / university.

In contrast, men or women can't be members of Greek letter organizations unless they are currently students of a college / or graduates of a college or university.

As documented by this showcased video and selected comments that are quoted in this pancocojams post, a man can be a Mason before he becomes a member of a historically Black Greek letter organization or afterwards.

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2024/02/general-information-about-prince-hall.html for a 2024 pancocojams post entitled "General Information About Prince Hall Masons & Prince Hall Shriners (2024 Update)"

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INFORMATION ABOUT PHI BETA SIGMA FRATERNITY
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phi_Beta_Sigma
"Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity, Inc. (ΦΒΣ) is a historically African American fraternity. It was founded at Howard University in Washington, D.C., on January 9, 1914, by three young African-American male students with nine other Howard students as charter members. The fraternity's founders, A. Langston Taylor, Leonard F. Morse, and Charles I. Brown, wanted to organize a Greek letter fraternity that would exemplify the ideals of Brotherhood, Scholarship and Service while taking an inclusive perspective to serve the community as opposed to having an exclusive purpose. The fraternity exceeded the prevailing models of Black Greek-Letter fraternal organizations by being the first to establish alumni chapters, youth mentoring clubs, a federal credit union, chapters in Africa, and a collegiate chapter outside of the United States. It is the only fraternity to hold a constitutional bond with a historically African-American sorority, Zeta Phi Beta (ΖΦΒ), which was founded on January 16, 1920, at Howard University in Washington, D.C., through the efforts of members of Phi Beta Sigma.

The fraternity expanded over a broad geographical area in a short amount of time when its second, third, and fourth chapters were chartered at Wiley College in Texas and Morgan State College in Maryland in 1916, and Kansas State University in 1917. Today, the fraternity serves through a membership of more than 200,000 men in over 700 chapters in the United States, Africa, Europe, Asia, and the Caribbean. Although Phi Beta Sigma is considered a predominantly African-American fraternity, its membership includes college-educated men of African, Caucasian, Hispanic, Native American, and Asian descent. According to its Constitution, academically eligible male students of any race, religion, or national origin may join while enrolled at a college or university through collegiate chapters, or professional men may join through an alumni chapter if a college degree has been attained, along with a certain minimum number of earned credit hours.

Phi Beta Sigma is a member of the National Pan-Hellenic Council (NPHC)"...

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD ABOUT THE SIGMA WHO IS ALSO A MASON

From https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EnAwk7zgVVM
These comments are given in relative chronological order and are numbered for referencing purposes only 

1. @datguyro, 2011
"GOMAB Square!!!"
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"GOMAB" is a secret Phi Beta Sigma Fraternity reference. "Square" /G\ and light (that is found in a number of comments below) are Prince Hall Mason references. 

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2. @eternaldeacon, 2011
"Chills down my Sigma Spine - and saw that light my double brotha /G\......!"

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3. @bootloco, 2012
"So Mote It Be...Bruh.../G\"

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4. @dar2see1, 2012
"I see ya square......Travel light

Noble Sidewinder Miller......"

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5. @IAmYourVoiceover, 2012
"I see you Square #Mason"

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6.  @travelingman1914, 2012
"I see ya Frat with all that Light on!"

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7. @ohyrah, 2012
"I see your light.  To the east and skee wee!"

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8. @IAmYourVoiceover, 2013
"I see you Square /G\ - I'm a Brother of another Greek org, but I have a lot of love for this song"

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9. @jerryhenderson2657, 2013
"See you shining bro /G\"

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10. @buddieluve, 2013
"I see you Li/G\ht.."

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11. @charleswallace8693, 2014
"I see ya square."

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12. @camillegoode8222, 2015
"Greeting & Salutations my Masonic Brother. I saw your light on so I just wanted to say Howdy from the Great State of Texas."

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13.  @MasterTizzle318, 2016
"i see ya Square!!!"

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14. @thurmondsmith1476, 2016
"Where u hail square!!! lol"

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15. @MujahidAli-ve1sy, 2016
"I see you Square!!"

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16. @dred314stl. 2017
"I see you Square/ G\"

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17. @AlphaDoug1914, 2018
"GOMAB FRAT! I see you square!"

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18. @bobbyd.sykesjr.309, 2018
"I [emoji of two eyes open] you Squ/G\e, greetings from King Hiram #7 A.F.&A.M. Little Rock, Arkansas"

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19. @Sin-G, 2018
"/G\ Phi...I see you Square,  GOMAB'

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20. @patrickmcgowan1214, 2018
"Respect from a \G/ and Omega Gamma Delta!"

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21.  @thomaspressley6762, 2019
"I see you /G\ and frat. GOMAB!!!"

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22. @JCR888, 2019
"I see that light"

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23. @marvinmccoy8180, 2020
"I see you Square. Love it brothers"

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24. @baytowne, 2023
"I see you Double /G\OMAB

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25. 
@sedrickgibson1775, 2024
"2B1Ask1 /G\ My Brother I see your light 2024"

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