Sunday, November 12, 2017

What "Haters" REALLY Means (Early R&B Usage & More)

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents information about the origins, meanings, and early usages of the word "hater" and knowing the meanings of the closely related saying "haters gonna hate", and the verb "hating on" someone (acting like a hater).

This post also showcases the 2000 R&B song "Playas Gon' Play" by 3LW and the 2007 Jill Scott song "Hate On Me".

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Thanks to all those who are quoted on this page and thanks to Jill Scott for her musical legacy and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.

"Haters" is an African American Vernacular English originated noun form of the verb "hate".

A "hater" is a person who constantly insults, criticizes, and/or puts another person down for no real reason.

In its page about the "haters" meme, cites the 3LW's 2000 R&B song "

3LW [3 Little Women]- Playas Gon' Play

3LWVEVO·5 videosUploaded on Feb 26, 2010

Music video by 3LW performing Playas Gon' Play.
Here are partial lyrics for that song:
"The playas gon' play
Them haters gonna hate
Them callers gonna call
Them ballers gonna ball
(Let 'em know)

I, I don't mind (ha)
What people say or do (nah, nah)
But I, I do mind
What you believe is true
You are the only one
Getting all my love
'cause what they do (what they do)
Ain't nothin' new"...

That "know your meme" page also cites this August 2003 entry as the earliest online definition for the word "hater":
Overused word that people like to use just because someone else expresses a dislike for a certain individual.
PERSON 1: I don't like Beyonce's new song.

PERSON 2: You're a hater!!!

by BFG December 05, 2003

A 2005 definition for "hater" that appears on that same page and is also listed as the top rated definition for haters (as of November 12, 2017) on another page is:
"Hater (n.):

A person that simply cannot be happy for another person’s success. Instead of giving acknowledgment in courtesy, a hater often pursues his/her point by exposing a flaw in the target subject. Hating, the result of being a hater, is not exactly jealousy. The hater doesn’t really want to be the person he or she hates, rather the hater wants to knock somelse [sic] down a notch."

Susan: You know, Kevin from accounting is doing very well. He just bought a house in a very nice part of town.

Jane (hater): If he is doing so well why does he drive that '89 Taurus?

by dion February 04, 2005"

"Haters Gonna Hate is a catchphrase used to indicate a disregard for hostile remarks addressed towards the speaker. This expression has its roots in American hip hop, and spawned an image macro series featuring pictures of celebrities, animals and cartoon characters strutting or posing in a conceited manner.
kelvinkarimi: 2012
"Haters gonna hate" means that this person will always find something negative to say, and will never have any words of motivation or to uplift you. Someone who does not motivate you and who is always fault finding and trying to bring you down, is called a hater."

Jill Scott "Hate On Me"

hiddenbeachmedia, Uploaded on Aug 9, 2007
Partial lyrics to Jill Scott's "Hate on Me"


In reality
I'm gon be who I be
And I don't feel no faults
For all the lies that you bought
You can try as you may
Break me down when I say

That it ain't up to you
Gon on do what you do



Hate on me hater
Now or Later
Cause I'm gonna do me
You'll be mad baby


If I gave you sanity
For the whole of humanity
Had all the solutions for the pain and pollution
No Matter Where I live
Despite the things I give
You'll always be this way
So go ahead and ...

[Chorus x2]

You Cannot...
Hate On me
Cause my mind is free
Feel my destiny
So Shall it Be
[Repeat x2]
Click for the complete lyrics to this Jill Scott song, the complete lyrics to 3LW's song, and other comments/analysis of the AAVE terms "haters" and "playas".

Pancocojams Editor's Note:
The idea for this post came to me after reading that trump used the word "haters" in a tweet on 11/11/2017, among other tweets that he wrote yesterday during his Asian trip:
In tweets, Trump criticizes 'haters and fools'
Here's that above mentioned tweet:

Donald J. Trump ✔@realDonaldTrump
"When will all the haters and fools out there realize that having a good relationship with Russia is a good thing, not a bad thing. There always playing politics - bad for our country. I want to solve North Korea, Syria, Ukraine, terrorism, and Russia can greatly help! By Associated Press | Posted: Sat 8:59 PM, Nov 11, 2017
7:18 PM - Nov 11, 2017 · Vietnam"
In that tweet trump called Americans who disagreed with his position on Russia's involvement with the United States Presidential election "haters and fools". This usage serves as an example of how African American Vernacular English terms become part of "standard" American lexicon.

In contrast to the African American Vernacular English meaning of the word "haters", I believe that there are an abundance of legitimate reasons for people to "hate on" (i.e. be haters toward) trump and his minions.

Furthermore, I strongly reject trump's reference to Americans who disagree with him as "haters and fools", I also consider it quite unpresidential but not really all that shocking for trump to have used that term. Hopefully, he won't also latch on to the "haters gonna hate" saying or the "hating on" verb...

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