Sunday, January 19, 2020

Comments About Being In Marching Bands From The Discussion Thread For Lizzo's 2019 "Good As Hell" YouTube Video

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post showcases Lizzo's 2019 YouTube video of her song "Good As Hell" which features Southern University's Human Jukebox marching band and that band's dance auxiliary, The Fabulous Dancing Dolls.

This post also includes some comments from this video's discussion thread about Southern University's marching band and the Fabulous Dancing Dolls as well as selected comments about being in marching bands.

The content of this post is presented for cultural purposes.

All copyright remains with their owners.

Thanks to Lizzo for her musical legacy and thanks to Ricky Reed, the producer of this song and all those who are associated with this video/song. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to Lizzo for publishing this video on YouTube.
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Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2020/01/lizzo-good-as-hell-information-lyrics.html for the pancocojams post entitled "Lizzo - "Good As Hell" (information, lyrics, & the 2016 video of this song that features multiple Black women's hair styles)". That post includes information about Lizzo as well as the lyrics to her song "Good As Hell".

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PANCOCOJAMS EDITOR'S NOTE
Lizzo's song "Good As Hell" was first released in 2016. The video embedded in this pancocojams post is the second official video for Lizzo's song "Good As Hell". The 2016 official YouTube video featured multiple Black women's hairstyles. This second 2019 video features Southern University's marching band and that band's dance troupe.

In part I'm highlighting some of the comments about bands in this 2019 video to document the differences between the dominant mainstream American perception of band member as geeks and nerds and the African American perception of band members-and in particular marching band members and their auxiliary dance members-as popular people on campus.

Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Southern_University for information about Southern University and its Human Jukebox marching band. Also, click https://www.theadvocate.com/baton_rouge/entertainment_life/article_88bcedb0-f59a-11e9-ad69-c7e95ab7289f.html and https://webuyblack.com/blog/southern-universitys-fabulous-dancing-dolls-not-just-pretty-faces-ceos-bosses/ for information about Southern University's Dancing Dolls majorette dance troupe.

Other pancocojams posts that feature Southern University's Human Jukebox and the Dancing Dolls can be visited by clicking the tags that are given below.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Lizzo - Good As Hell (Official Music Video)



Lizzo Music, Premiered Dec 9, 2019

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Statistics as of January 19, 2020 as of 6:50 PM ET
total # of views - 15,455,700
total likes- 420K
total dislikes - 19K
total comments –21,016

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS VIDEO'S DISCUSSION THREAD
(with numbers added for referencing purposes only and brief explanations after some of these comments)

December 2019
1. Ashanti Decosta
"Yes the Fabulous Dancing Dolls and Southern Human jukebox, I love them"

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2. Jason Wright
"Way to go Lizzo and the Southern University Marching Band aka the "Human Jukebox! This makes me even more proud that I graduated from SU 28 years ago this month!"

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3. TJ6
"As a band nerd, this video made me feel seen in the realest possible way πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ˜­πŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎπŸ‘πŸΎ"

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4. M Hall
"She has the Southern University Dancing Dolls In this and I am not mistaken they are my girls.... I am in love. That band is so bomb 🀩"

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5. Renleigh B
"Yes she got the whole band and dolls πŸ₯°"

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6. Delia Vela
"Is Camryn from DD4L there?"
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"DD4L" [Dancing Dolls for life"] is a support slogan/rallying cry for the Jackson, Mississippi children to pre-university age majorette dance squad that is featured in the American television series Bring It!. Camryn Harris was one of the dancers who was featured in that series since its inception in 2014. The Jackson, Mississippi majorette dance squad shouldn't be confused with (Baton Rouge, Louisiana) Southern University's Fabulous Dancing Dolls dance troupe which is an auxiliary of that university's marching band. Camryn is now a student at Southern University and is a member of that dance troupe. Click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bring_It!_(TV_series) for information about the Bring It television series.

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7. Renleigh B
"Delia Vela yes"

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8. orionh3000
"it's ok not as good as Alabama state, and the stingettes."
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Alabama State University (ASU) is a public historically black university in Montgomery, Alabama. The Stingettes are their marching band's dance auxiliary.

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9. Miahope
"Yes I’m so happy for the SU Dolls & JukesπŸ’›πŸ’™Great way to end their season. Here’s to 50 more years of being the epitome of style & grace πŸ”₯ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0B91plWPTWI"
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The title of this video is "Southern University Fabulous Dancing Dolls Highlights | SWAC Championship 2019"

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10. Ladii Different Kind 91
"Hell yeah! They're so smooth! Esp the Dolls & their walk! ❤πŸ’šπŸ§‘"

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11. bre bre
"orionh3000 Did you say Alabama is better than SU πŸ’€πŸ’€, okay..."

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12. buck
"as someone who was in marching band this made me tear up 😭"

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13. Zombalaya Q
"Same sis! I was like, "My people 😭😭""

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14. Eileen Carrasco
"I love the representation of all the “geeky” clubs I was in choir all throughout middle school and highs school and it was such an amazing experience. Made the meaning of this song completely change by saying to never give up on yourself no matter what everyone else thinks not just within a relationship"

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15. S Alexander
"There is no such thing as a geek in Louisiana! The kids in the band and the choir are more popular than the kids on the football team or any sports! Southern University marching band AKA human jukebox is the number one band in the world!"

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16. Gordon Clark II
"@S Alexander exactly. I was reading that and was like whoever wrote this has NO idea of the HBCU culture calling the band a geek club. That PWI sh&t*. The band is THE sh&t* at HBCUs. No geeks."
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"PWI"= predominately White institution [meaning, American universities whose students historically were and currently still are predominately White], in contrast to HBCU-historically Black colleges and universities. "PWI" is also used in reference to university based Greek letter fraternities and sororities, in contrast to BGLOs (historically Black Greek letter organizations)

*This word is fully spelled out in this comment. Modified spelling for curse words and racially derogatory references are used in this blog because pancocojams is a family friendly blog.

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17. Z Walker
"Bands are not considered geeky at HBCUs at all lol."

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18. ANICIA
"Them: no one likes band nerds.

Lizzo: Hold my flute!


❤️"

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19. Nini Mf
"ANICIA black bands are a whole different ball game."

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20. Sparkling Powerberries
"My friends are "band nerds "

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21. erika0182
"This an HBCU band! Ain't no band nerds, bih!*"
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"bih" is a currently found modified spelling that the commenter used for the word "bi&ch".

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22. joseph morris
"Southern University is the best band in the land"

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23. Alex R
"Uhm no... that belongs to THE Ohio State University [I deleted derogatory words that are directed toward the previous commenter.]"

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24. TXGAMER7
"Alex R ohio cant even last versus an HBCU band in a battle lol sit yo headass down somewhere

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25. James Brooke
"Love the trumpets"

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26. schnauzer mom
"marching band forever! Piccolos rule!"

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27. LORD Drag1 SAMA
"@schnauzer mom Trumpet section BADDEST SECTION"

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28. schnauzer mom
"@LORD Drag1 SAMA LOL! Woodwind/brass rivalry never stops, does it?"

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29. LORD Drag1 SAMA
"@schnauzer mom Never lol!"

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30. Jailine Artz
"This makes me feel a little bit more proud about being a slightly chubby band kid"

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31. XxFire_ BlazxX
"Jailine Artz same!"

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32. William Smith
"I love how Lizzo actually comes from being a music kid in high school. Even though some musicians didn’t even think about being involved in music in school. Band kids Unite."

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33. Starbound
"Flutist! ✌"

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34. Ruby - San
"Flutist!!!"

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35. Percy Jackson is Best Disney Princess
"Can orchestra kids join, Violinist πŸ˜…πŸ‘‹πŸ»"

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36. Angee Love
"William Smith clarinetist πŸ™ƒπŸ™ƒ"

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37. kaitlin soldan
"Cellist! πŸ™‹πŸΌ‍♀‍"

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38. Slippery Snake
"Go clarinets!"

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39. Cousin Chloe
"Trumpeter here 🎺"

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40. Farida Is An Attack Helicopter for Dahnj
"Guitars...? Ik no one cares about guitars..."

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41. J P
"Bari Sax🀩"

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42. The man 7
"Trombone"

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43. Nightmaregirl89
"Oboe:)"

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44. _b0op _
"Cymbals babyyy I got so excited seeing the flips people were doing lol

(Oboe for concert season)"

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45. Killadoy46
"Band isn’t a sport 🀣"

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46. panem
"@Killadoy46 that doesn’t make it easy 🀷🏽‍♂‍"

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47. panem
"🎺 trumpeter🎺(sorry for your ears lmao)"

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48. Killadoy46
"panem I just said it because it gets hard core band idiots mad."

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49. Animal Master
"I play flute!"

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50. Jirokoda Potato
"Do choir kids count
Because I do choir"

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51. Jennifer Painter
"As a former bus driver and band mom, I can say this video is 100% accurate. I am blessed to have witnessed a large group of very different young people support each other unconditionally. Marching band is always there for each other.πŸ’šπŸ’›"

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52. Jennifer Painter
"@Percy Jackson is Best Disney Princess Talk to the marching band director. They are pros at finding places for everyone regardless of skill level or instrument of choice."

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53. ZacharyRWhite
"Tuba gangggg!!!"

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54. Me_zelina J.S
"Bass Clarinet gang !!"

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55. Larry
"Alto Saxophone 🎷"

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56. Beeboisgod_ 21
"Where my clarinetists at"

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57. Angelstr 13
"percussionist"

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58. Starbound
"@Killadoy46 Nah, marching band is not a sport. It is a physical activity. Same goes for cheer. πŸ™‰"

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59. Darian Richan
"This was made at southern university in Louisiana YESSSSSSSSSSSSS"

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60. Donald Malone
"Darian Richan best part to me. #GoJags"

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61. Cal Brown
"Yes indeedπŸ’–πŸ’›πŸ’™"

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62. Kylan Edwards
"Imma Louisiana child"

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63. Enchanted Star Goddess
"Ayyyyye SU Jags πŸ’™πŸ’›πŸ’™πŸ’›"

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64. Jackie
"I love how she’s involving marching band. I stan so hard and thats how my class is when we go to marching or music events🀧"

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65. Ashtonk47
"YO FACTS"

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66. Calvin Stineman
"Yeah, even though it isn't DCI and that type, it's still cool.
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"DCI= "Drum Corp International" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drum_Corps_International. Also, click https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_band for information about military style, corps style, and Historically Black Colleges & Universities' high stepping show styles. An excerpt about HBCU marching bands from that Wikipedia page is found in the comment section below.

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67. Miss Linh
"She literally was in marching band , why wouldn’t she?"

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68. Ashtonk47
"Miss Linh oh dang, I didn’t know that, that’s epic!"

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69. Miss Linh
"Ashtonk47 yeah she’s been playing the flute since middle school"

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70. Darrick White
"Not just any marching band (DCI) will do! --Southern University is an HBCU, and she knew to get it right!!!"

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71. Max_20048 _
"Ok but like why don’t the saxophones have neckstraps on"

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72. Bri Andoll
"Cuz those aren’t the really big ones that are heavy"

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73. Isabella Martinez
"Bri Andoll all saxes are supposed to have neckstraps"

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74. Max_20048 _
"Bri Andoll I play the same instrument as the girl at 0:23 and I wear a neckstrap"

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75. Green Hornet
"They dont march with neck straps because of how intense their horns swings are when they march. They use them in the stands"

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76. Heather Mayeux
"they are SU and have a reputation. look them up and watch. they don't walk around. they WORK."

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77. DarkForests
"Max_20048 _ Lol only a band kid would be able to point that out"

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78. F.B.I.
"Fr even for being small those are not easy to carry with no neck strap"

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79. Hedwig K
"I play saxophone (alto) and honestly, I am glad when I can hold it for more than two minutes without a neck strap. Playing on it for more than two minutes? Marching while playing? Hell no."

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80. Evan Christman
"Bri Andoll what do you mean? All the saxophones have neck straps"

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81. Rias gremory
"Its a black school thing to not have them on. And they'll throw them in the air."

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82. Ruth Bernardo
"Bri Andoll ALL saxes require neck straps. Even some normal clarinets use neck straps but are more common in marching band."

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83. Ruth Bernardo
"Green Hornet ohhhhh ok that makes sense. My marching band doesn’t require doing any type of movements like that. I only see those movements in DCI, though but then again, DCI is only horn instruments."

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84. Practically Seth
"Green Hornet no matter what type of sax you have and what you’re doing a neck strap is required. I did march band and I played an alto sax and used a neck strap"

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85. Inside an Aliens mind
"In a lot of marching bands you dont wear them cause it pulls pulls at your uniforms"

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86. HufflePuffleKnightOfRage
"Yeah its really weirding me out. I have a strap specifically for marching alto..."

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87. Jordan B
"First of all on any sax u need a neck strap you definitely need one for marching if they were really marching and really doing intense movements they would need a neck strap"

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88. David Ballard
"Cause they can't do the choreo with a neckstrap on. Not too complicated."

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89. Γ…rctič
"Alto,tenor and bari saxophones weigh a lot so props to the people playing without neck straps"

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90. ACE ZILLA
"@Green Hornet no .... It might fall without neck strap while Marching ... And u must still hold properly the saxophone even it has a neck strap .

It happened to me ... while Marching I almost drop my alto saxophone(I'm using neck strap)...... And I-Oop

Worst nightmare of any saxophone player"

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91. Deadly Chicken
"I play alto sax. One time at a game my tenor sax friend accidentally dropped her neck strap underneath the bleachers before we had to play the Alma Mater so we didn't have time to get it so I made her use my neck strap and even the alto is heavy without a neck strap. It felt like my arm was about to fall off after the first minute. I'd hate to have to do that for a whole halftime show."

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92. Green Hornet
"Rias gremory no it’s only southern that does this. As far as I know all HBCUs march with neckstraps"

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93. Jordan Washington
"Any sax should have a neck strap. I play many different instruments and it is possible to play sax without a neck strap, but it is difficult and a little painful on the thumbs"

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94. Ruth Bernardo
"Green Hornet So you’re saying you aren’t exactly a direct source. A lot of us here are marching students even me. I know that even our clarinets have neck straps while marching if they have the money for it."

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95. Sean White
"Matt Blatt it’s like having a driving scene and no key in the ignition, it looks wrong to anyone who knows slightly anything about it"

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96. Sir Breakablesh
"@Bri Andoll we still have to wear a neck strap because they do get heavy and we cant get a good grip with just the thumb rest and at a vertical angle"

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97. gtfobre
"probably bc they’re not really playing the saxophone and they’re just acting for a music video"

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98. Karter Mobley
"Max_20048 _ it’s a music video shut up nerd"

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99. Cougar Lady1
"I came back to this video after Southern University tore up the Rose Parade today! They were amazing!!"

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100. PuffyUntold
"This Brings So Much Attention To The Band Side. When We're Known As The Nerds Who Can't Have FunπŸ˜πŸ™Œ"

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101. Nallely Flores-Garcia
"band geeks represent😀"

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102. Vicki Tavarez
"I play 4th base for my band I can truly relate to the girl that didnt feel confident on her playing beacuse I felt the same I'm glad she made a music video about the band and band girls and the color guard girls"

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103. Satori Raye
"Put Southern in the spotlight, Lizzo you gotta do Grambling now, otherwise Southern will think they are boss at the Bayou classic! Lol"
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayou_Classic: "The Bayou Classic is the annual college football game between the Grambling State University Tigers and the Southern University Jaguars, first held under that name in 1974 at Tulane Stadium in New Orleans, although the series itself actually began in 1932. A trophy is awarded to the winning school."...

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104. Mayra Flo
"Who here is in Marching Band and just feels proud that there is a marching band in this video!!"

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105. Jared Flores
"My marching band self is freaking out"

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106. Patrick Clarke
"This is bringing back some serious marching band memories."

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107. Lea Animates
"I feel proud to be a band kid✋🏼😌"

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108. Angelina Johnson
"the formation at 2:13 looked dope"

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109. Julie Chavez
"Flutes holding it down!! First chair. Second chair. All the chairs!!"

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110. Donna Cunningham
"I love Lizzo just because she’s so Lizzo! But this video is the best with the human jukebox and dancing dolls 😊"

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111. Evelym Leiticia
"Dencing Dolls I love you πŸ˜πŸ˜™πŸ˜˜πŸ˜š❤πŸ’™πŸ’šπŸ’›πŸ’œπŸ’“πŸ’•πŸ’–πŸ’—πŸ’žπŸ’Ÿ"

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112. VideoGamesAreCool
"That drum set tho πŸ‘Œ spicy"

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113. Clarissa Delgado
"I love the majorette dancing"

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114. Karina M Gomes
"Omg look at Camryn in the back! DD4L!!!! So proud of her as a Southern University Fabulous Dancing Doll YOU GO CAM!!!"

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2 comments:

  1. Here's an excerpt from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marching_band that describes Historically Black Colleges and Universities' marching bands:
    ..."A recognizable style of show band is the one fielded by historically black colleges and universities (HBCUs). HBCU bands utilize the traditional "ankle-knee" high step and music selections are largely based on R&B, hip-hop, and contemporary popular music. In addition to traditional drill formations, HBCU bands feature heavily choreographed dance routines as part of their performances. Many of these bands may have a twirler line and/or a dancer line, but not necessarily flag twirlers. One of the most notable depictions of HBCU bands is the 2002 film Drumline. The history of African-American marching bands was explored through a 2018 exhibition called "Marching On: The Politics of Performance" in New York City.[14] HBCU bands are a significant part of African-American musical culture and HBCU bands often surpass their associated football teams in popularity, a phenomenon that is uncommon among collegiate and high school marching bands."...

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    1. That last sentence should have said "HBCU bands are a significant part of African-American musical culture and HBCU bands often surpass their associated football teams in popularity, a phenomenon that is uncommon among collegiate and high school marching bands that aren't predominately Black."

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