Tuesday, August 2, 2016

HBCU Dance Line Terms In The Discussion Thread For The Video "Southern University Dancing Dolls vs ASU Stingettes "FULL GAME HIGHLIGHTS 2015"

Edited by Azizi Powell

This post showcases a video of Southern University Dancing Dolls vs ASU Stingettes "FULL GAME HIGHLIGHTS" 2015. This post also includes selected comments from that video's discussion thread that include a number of the HBCU majorette dance line terms are listed in this pancocojams post: http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2016/08/hbcu-majorette-dance-line-terms.html HBCU Majorette Dance Line Terms.

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Thanks to the Southern University Dancing Dolls and the Alabama State University Stingettes for their performances. Thanks to all those who have been or are now involved in HBCU majorette dance lines. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post and thanks to the producer and publisher of this video on YouTube.

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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Southern University Dancing Dolls vs ASU Stingettes "FULL GAME HIGHLIGHTS" 2015



Marvin Price, Published on Oct 12, 2015

I Apoligize in advance for the side angle on the Stingettes. We started out in front, but the ASU Hornets Head band director made one of our team members move to the side. Still Pretty good footage nevertheless. Hope you all enjoy! This video was filmed by @gvdess_x and @DrPrice_IsRight

Thank you all for wathing!
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SELECTED COMMENTS
These comments are given in relative chronological order, with the oldest dated comments given first, except for responses. However, these comments may not be in consecutive order.

I've assigned numbers for referencing purposes only.

WARNING: As is the case with a number of YouTube discussion threads, a number of comments in this discussion thread contain profanity, what is known as the "n word", and/or examples of sexually explicit language. None of those comments are included below.

Explanation of the abbreviations:
HBCU = Historically Black Colleges And Universities

SU - Southern University Dancing Dolls (also referred to as "the dolls")

ASU - Alabama State University Stingettes


2015
1. Keyonna Baker
"Both teams did well man! this was a true battle!"

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2. AriesBoy1988
"These stingettes are the baddest squad/danceline in the HBCU this yr...That Asia is evolving these girls into something that have never been before.....There are the #1 HBCU danceline this yr while those Jsettes and Alabama A&M Divas are coming in the top 3 baddest dancelines this yr.......Sorry SU dancin dolls but I'm just not really feeling you all this yr and think yall come in as #4 because yall are becoming boring and predictable."

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3. arbary williams
"+AriesBoy1988 These ladies aren't out to battle each other. They're their for entertainment and entertainment purposes ONLY. And ranking these squads doesn't define what they do from week to week. All of these squads brings something different that's unique."

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4. EGC 93
"+arbary williams I agree with you, can't place the dolls or stingettes in any category because they both have their own unique styles., dolls never battle. No need to."

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5. mybro7279 months ago
"Ok let me clear this up right now! The Stingettes aren't #1 because they bend over and grind. The Dancing Dolls (whom I love) also bend over and grind, that's pretty much all the Dolls do. The Stingettes are #1 because of their creativity, ability to perform outside of the ordinary HBCU Dance box, and their unmatched swagger and sex appeal. The Stingettes are trendsetters; REFRESHING, creative, classy, sexy and sassy."

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6. arbary williams
"+mybro727 If the Stingettes are "number 1" then you can make an argument for the Dolls, J-settes, Black Foxes, Orchesis, Golden Delight, Golden Girls, and etc. because all the stuff you listed is what the majority of what all HBCU squads do on a week to week basis. Therefore I don't believe you can't put or give a ranking for any squad because it really takes away from what these women do and that's ENTERTAIN! I'm pretty sure all these squads respect each other craft on and off the field. So at the end of the day just RESPECT what all these women do."

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7. mybro727
"+arbary williams by no means am I trying to take anything away from any other danceline. I love my Dolls, I like Golden Delight and I even think the Jsettes, GG's, Orchesis, Black Foxes and 14K are entertaining squads. When I say the Stingettes are #1 it's because TO ME they are. No other can keep ME on the edge of my seat the way they do. They're MY preference. My point is it was unnecessary to call Aries a punk and then try to discredit his judgment by stating what you THINK his reasons are for the Stingettes being "#1" (his preference). That was silly and it was also senseless because ultimately the Dolls bend over and grind too! I personally have love for all HBCU dancelines but don't come for the Stingettes!!"

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8. Tee Jack2000
"No dance team in the swac needs to be ranked period because at the end of the day, they do a damn good job each week. We as fans should be thankful these girls do what they do. I won't rank them, but i mean Swac Dancers RUN the HBCU dance world & thats not up for debate"

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9. Bdot Ebony
"why the dolls dont buck like the other dance teams......i live their style tho"

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10. RebelKidd504
" "To become a Dancing Doll you must display great dancing techniques (ballet, jazz and modern dance), as well as be a beautiful, graceful woman with a super personality," "

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11. RebelKidd504
"Dancing Dolls dates back to 1969, the were the first HBU dance line to form. Back when SU was once in New Orleans and when at a Time in period when ladies were more poised, graceful, and sexy without looking for attention. Dancing Dolls are all about that grace, jazz, ballet, modern dance, beauty, and respect. The women before them kept that legacy going and the girls whom came after had and has to keep it up as well... So when they dance you will see real seductive and soft movement drawing an awe eye dazzling crowd bc how they move. It wasn't until the later teams came after... And started forming their own identity is when bucking came into play JSU TSU ..... That's what makes them unique they do what no other teams has failed to do keep it sexy soft gentle poised and eye catching you will never ever see a doll or dolls buck... It's not their style"

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12. Keandre Wilcox
"Man kayla is still giving me CAPTAIN ! Girl you better slay 😍😍😍"
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In this game Kayla Pittman (KP) was the captain of Southern University Dancing Dolls. However, for some reason, she was suspended for two games and performed behind the co-captain Conner in this game.

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13. Patricia August
"connor throws the perfect counts"
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Connor was the co-captain of the Dancing Dolls and led that dance line during the captain's suspension. "Leading the dance team" means that she was the one who threw the counts.

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14. Jasmine Patterson
"I hate all the tension in this video with the dolls. all the old heads look irritated with Kayla but she's doing what captains do. take control and make sure their team looks good they know they're against the stingettes and everyone is watching. they want her help but at the same time don't (in my opinion). but either way the [icon of a crown] is back"

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15. V Darnell
"Best Battle of the Season DOLLS vs. STING is always a delight!"

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16. Kory Kent
"Stingettes far surpassed the Dolls in synchronization, cleanliness and POWER. Considering their counts were more complicated and faster, the fact that they did it all in sync should be a damn wake up call to the Dolls to step it up. Their counts are easier, slower and they still weren't fully synchronized. In addition, I know "high-energy" isn't their style, but SOME energy would be nice. Stingettes won."

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17. Jss Pss
"Stingettes won ... more new count, better uniforms, better look, and they didn't repeat counts more than the Dolls"

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18. kolby935
"yall must not know asia well. lets not do it everyone knows the stingettes just murdered the dolls! stingettes are high energy, technique, real dance, and all in synch. Stingettes are a combination of many types of dance not just one. Basic dolls, im sleep. they have good field shows though i give them that."
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In this video, Asia Martin was the captain of the Stingettes.

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19. Keith Rogers
"I'm sorry but my Dolls definitely won this. Idk what people see in the Stingettes their counts always look so stiff looking lmao. Plus they remind of the Jsettes. And someone said the Stingettes uniform look better but it's like the exact same version of the dancing dolls version of one of their uniforms that's silver with gold lining lol. The Dolls are the best hbcu band their performing at NFl games, Super Bowls, and even marched mayweather in with his fight against pacqiou 😭. Hell Southern University got paid 700,000 to perform at UGA halftime which is the top school in Georgia and also PWI(Predominantly white institute). Just saying Southern is going places other than just going against college bands lmao 😭"

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20. darkinetix, 2016
"+Keith Rogers I loooooves me some Dolls... and maybe this video doesn't really reveal (I haven't watched in full yet) but the Stingettes have definitely been killing the stands in 2015 across the board. No contest. And again, I'm an avid Doll fan. It's a very slight advantage, but I'd still rank them higher than the Dolls as far as entertainment value.


The Dolls get more work in things like the Super Bowl and performing for PWIs because they're what white people would say is "classically beautiful" for black women, and their moves aren't as "raunchy" or "ghetto" to them... it's a matter of respectability politics ultimately. Not saying they don't deserve it whatsoever, because they absolutely do, but we can't ignore the truth. Dolls will always be the safest bet for the world outside of HBCUs."

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21. coco butta
"Though su's captain gives second row face and body and not captain swag that count at 7:15 is the business. I love it. Asia and her girls still have too much precision to be touched by the dolls. Two epic teams tho"
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For greater reading clarity, a comma should be placed after the word "swag". The commenter id dissin Southern captain by saying that she has second row face and body, but praising the count that she did at &:15 in this video.

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22. malatrex, 2016
" "Second row face and body". #deadandgone"

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23. Nathan Peo
"It's almost impossible to compare the two squads because of they have their own styles. I can't call it but they both clearly excel at what they do. Especially the captain of the Stingettes. I haven't seen an ASU captain with that much fire and personality since Victoria Betts (09)."

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2016
24. Angela Duah
"STINGETTES ARE THE BEST.. the Dolls are good at what they do but they were not as together as the Stingettes, their techniques were too soft, no passion, and somehow make them boring to watch after a while. The stingettes dances like its LIFE their energy is off the roof, they keep you engage in their performance"

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25. RebelKidd504
"No passion grace is not having not passion? Cleanliness is not having passion? Have technic is boring. Every dance team does not have to buck or pop that coochie yo. Lol we boring cause we keep it clean short and sexy. But yet acknowledged by Beyoncé even get her counts from the dancing dolls, acknowledged by Madonna as the best, Nicki Minaj thinks there great and celebs like Brandy, kamp K, keke Palmer, Nicole Murphy, T.I come just see them. I'm not understanding but I understanding the hate is real but the stingettes are great and has come long way but still has some growing

That's like y'all comparing Beyoncé to Keri Hillson lmfao"

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26. HBCU ALUM
"+Angela Duah Can't compare the two teams, SU have designed a traditional program around the Dolls that work for them, the Dolls dance that SU tradition. the ASU Stingettes and most HBCU dance teams dance more hip hop. I personally hope that SU Dolls never change from their tradition. The Dolls and Stingettes did a good job. Much love to all HBCU's."

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27. Demetrius Hickerson
"The Stingettes ate this. Both teams are phenomal and you may prefer a softer style of dance but me personally, I have to give it to the Stingettes because they can give me softer moves when needed but they can buck out as well. They brought new counts and new ripples. They executed well in the stands, no doubt about it. They just give me more as far as CREATIVITY and ENTERTAINMENT. Dolls on the other hand have great counts and are always in sync but I just want MORE from them but it's not in their style to give more. They perform the count and sit and look pretty."
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"The Stingettes ate this" means that (in the writer's opinion) they won the dance line battle since they devoured the competing dance line..

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28. Chris Bob
"the su dolls always do it big especially for the homecoming parade no other squad could come close to the excellence that the dolls have been doing since I was a kid and the dolls uniforms always make them stand out to me"

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29. Waylon Vines
"the dolls and the juke try to out do the year before, they dont compete against others"
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"Juke" - a clip of Southern University's band name "The Human Jukebox"

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30. RebelKidd504
"Speak speak son let them know cause everybody compete against them when southern is always trying to find a way to out beat themselves"

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31. JaiJaiCrazzii
"I love both teams but Stingettes takes the win because their dancing seems more clean. KP should've led and I think she'll be a better competitor against Asia. But in regards to sound, Southern is better. I'm an ASU fan but I'm always excited to go to the game when they play Southern just for the band."

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32. RebelKidd504
"I'm not understanding y'all definition of clean lol I got to watch this again cause the stingettes did great but counts are crammed up like they were trying to over do the dolls but still threw out some damn good counts but I think much wilder counts than the dolls doll counts are soft and controlled"

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33. HBCU ALUM
"Great Job SU Dolls and ASU Stingettes, both represent HBCU's well."

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35. MindRegulatorMusic
"Alcorn State, Alabama State, or Albany State University? Please let us know which HBCU (Historically Black Colleges and Universities) you are referring to. Some people (like me)who are viewing may be from other parts of the country...or the world. I appreciate your work! Are you the director?"

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