Edited by Azizi Powell
This post provides examples of twitter group names and terms used for the so-called American militia who began occupying an Oregon federal building on January 2, 2016. Cultural explanations of those terms are also included in this post.
Three additional tweets about this armed occupation are also included in this post's Addendum.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, folkloric, sociological, and political purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.
Disclaimer:
This post is not meant to suggest that only Black commenters use "Y'all Qaeda", "Vanilla Isis", "YeeHawd" and/or similar derisive names and terms to refer to the Oregon militants and/or other persons with the same or similar views. From the pictorial icons on twitter, it appears that Black commenters and non-Black commenters have used these names and terms.
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BACKGROUND
From http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/01/armed-militants-take-over-a-federal-building-in-oregon-and-social-media-cries-foul
Oregon Under Attack
Armed Militants Take Over a Federal Building in Oregon, and Social Media Cries Foul
The lack of federal and media response has prompted cries of hypocrisy and racism. by Rachel Handler, January 3, 2016
"On Saturday night, a group of armed militants broke into and occupied a federal building near Burns, Oregon, declaring their intent to break free of the “tyranny” of the U.S. government and encouraging likeminded folks from around the country to “bring your arms” and join the movement.
The occupation of the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge, which was closed for the weekend but serves as the remote headquarters of the Federal Bureau of Land Management, followed a protest that included roughly 300 marchers, according to The Oregonian. The protestors took issue with the prosecution of two local ranchers, Dwight Hammond Jr. and his son Steven, who are due to report to jail Monday for igniting fires that spread to government lands (the two reportedly set the fires in the early aughts to cover up illegal deer-poaching on government property)."...
In contrast to previous peaceful protests in Ferguson and Baltimore—where police deployed tear gas against protesters and called in the National Guard—“not a police officer was visible” during the rally or the subsequent occupation, according to The Oregonian, nor has the federal government responded, despite the men’s avowal to kill for the cause if necessary. That disparity hasn’t gone unnoticed by social media, either, where users have adopted the hashtag #OregonUnderAttack and made the story less about the demands of the militia and more about the vastly different official response thus far to white protestors"...
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From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yall-qaeda-vanilla-isis_568a3421e4b06fa68882bb6d Vanilla ISIS & Y'All Qaeda: Oregon Gunmen Mocked On Social Media
Self-styled militia comes under a different type of fire.
by Ed Mazza, 01/04/2016 05:14 am ET
"The gunmen who have seized a federal building in Oregon claim they're patriots.
But on social media, many are calling the self-styled "militia" terrorists -- and mocking the group that has taken over the Malheur National Wildlife Refuge headquarters with derisive nicknames.
Some are calling them Y'All Qaeda"
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From http://www.albawaba.com/loop/th-internet-has-figured-out-whose-behind-genius-yallqaeda-reponse-oregon-788658
Th [sic] Internet has figured out whose behind the genius #YallQaeda response to Oregon
Published January 3rd, 2016 - 21:40 GMT via SyndiGate.info
We're sorry to keep on reporting about Oregon and the glorious Twitter response to come out of it. But someone needs to acknowledge the genius of #YallQaeda and its subsequent spawn, #YeeHawd.
It's only been a few hours since social media users began using the hashtags to describe the militiamen occupying a federal building in Oregon, and the Internet is losing its mind over the irony. And rightly so.
Some 150 gun-toting protesters began occupying Malheur National Wildlife Refuge Sunday in what they say is support of two local ranchers' ongoing legal dispute. Social media users have wondered why this isn't being called a terror incident and musing about how much different it would be if the perpetrators were black or Muslim.
Of course, this also very serious discussion about rhetoric in the media—one that has raised legitimate questions of why most mainstream media organizations and law enforcement are reinforcing such obvious double standards. That's exactly what makes #Yeehawd such a great finisher....
The man behind the phrase [Yall Qaeda] appears to be sports reporter and TV journalist Jason Marks, who says he first used the hashtag in 2011 to refer to "fringe fans" of the Southeastern Conference, or SEC, a college athletic conference with members hailing mostly from the American South. Here's the tweet.
Jason Marks
@OnTheMarksRadio Mike Slive wants to make the bump rule history...sorry #YALLQaeda, you'll have to get Saban on something else."
Back then it didn't gain much speed. But in the last few hours its taken on a new, arguably better serving, life of its own as the sharlpy [sic] satiric answer to a pretty pitiful media and law enforcement response to the Oregon siege. And while that occupation is still alive and kicking, at least we have #YallQaeda, and its story of origin."...
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Pancocojams Editor:
The group names "Y'all Qaeda" (Yall Qaeda), "VanillaIsis", and the terms "YeeHawd", "Infantada", "YokelHaram" and more are being used on twitter to mock the so-called "American militants" and self-described "American patriots" who took over an Oregon federal building on January 2, 2016. These terms convey the view that the intolerance and narrow-mindedness of those people, and, more generally, American Christian fundamentalists and/or American Republicans are considered to be parallel to the intolerance and narrow-mindedness of the Middle-Eastern terrorist groups the Taliban, Al-Queda, and Isis. “American Taliban” and “teahadist” are two earlier referents for the same American groups and/or population/s referred to by the derisive names "Y'all Qaeda", "VanillaIsis", and more.
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EXAMPLES
These featured tweets are given in no particular order with their source article or twitter page noted. I've assigned numbers to these tweets for referencing purposes only. Those numbers correspond to the "Explanation" section that is found below.
From http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/yall-qaeda-vanilla-isis_568a3421e4b06fa68882bb6d
Example #1:
Colin Miner @cominer
"Whomever came up with #YallQaeda to describe the Oregon militia, I take my hat off to you. And then put it back on and take it off again."
12:24 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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Example #2:
PatOndabak @PatOndabak
"Whoever coined the hashtag #YallQaeda is brilliant. Redneck terrorism has descended on Oregon."
12:32 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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Example #3:
Brandon Friedman
@BFriedmanDC
"#YallQaeda makes no sense to me because the militia people are from the West and Upper Midwest, not the South. Have to go with #VanillaISIS."
6:00 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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From http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/yall-qaeda-twitter-users-mock-oregon-right-wing-militia-action-and-its-awesome/
‘Y’all Qaeda’: Twitter users mock Oregon right-wing militia action — and it’s awesome
David Ferguson, 03 Jan 2016
Example #4:
David Roberts
@drvox
"Roundup:
#YallQueda
#YeeHawd
#VanillaISIS
#YokelHaram
#CowTippingTerrorists
#FailQueda
#Infantada
#WhiteSIS
#SaturdayNightTreason"
More?
5:23 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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Example #5:
Brienne of Snarth
@femme_esq
"#YallQaeda follows a strict interpretation of Shania law."
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Example #6:
W. Kamau Bell Verified account
@wkamaubell
"Dumb dumb dumb da da dumb dumb.
Dumb dumb dumb dumb da da dumb dumb #VanillaIsis baby"
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From http://www.albawaba.com/loop/th-internet-has-figured-out-whose-behind-genius-yallqaeda-reponse-oregon-788658 Th Internet has figured out whose behind the genius #YallQaeda response to Oregon, Published January 3rd, 2016 via SyndiGate.info
Example #7:
#FinnAwakens
"@pfunk1130 Oh, waitaminute!!!! We have #YallQaeda AND #YeeHawdists?!?!?! Y'all tew much, Twitter...y'all TEW MUCH!!!!"
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Example #8:
From http://www.businessinsider.com/social-media-mocking-oregon-militia-by-calling-them-yallqaeda-and-vanillaisis-2016-1 People are mocking the Oregon 'militia' on social media by calling them 'YallQaeda' and 'VanillaISIS' by Harrison Jacobs
ⓉⒶⒷ (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ✧
@tabatkins
"So some religious militants took over some territory, threaten violence, and are calling for like-minded believers to join them. #YallQaeda"
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Example #9:
John Hulsey @JohnHulsey
"#YallQaeda waging #YeeHawd on America and we're still calling it a "peaceful protest."
It's domestic terrorism and we need to shut it down."
11:58 AM - 3 Jan 2016
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Example #10:
Kevin M. Kruse @KevinMKruse
"Some other great suggestions from my mentions: #YokelHaram #YeeHawdists #VanillaISIS #Talibundy"
2:47 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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CULTURAL EXPLANATIONS FOR SOME OF THE ABOVE NAMES/TERMS
1. Y'all Qaeda (Yall Qaeda) - a play on the words "y'all" and the Middle Eastern terrorist group "Al-Qaeda".
Y'all is an informal variant of the words "you all". Y'all is usually associated with poor and working class people, particularly from the Southern region of the USA, although it is used elsewhere by Black and non-Black people.
A drawing of a fake poster [billboard] on Y'all Qaeda's twitter page distinguishes between "Y'all Qaeda" and "Them Qaeda" (the Middle Eastern terrorist group". However, the people using the referent "Y'all Qaeda" don't associate that group with all Americans (people in the USA)- just the people who (they believe) are acting like American Taliban.
Here are three selected tweets which were published prior to the Oregon occupation that include the mocking group name "Y'all Qaeda":
[from Y'all Qaeda twitter page]:
Thomas Alascio @headhunter69 , 29 Nov 2015
Ted Cruz once again demonstrating that he is a proud card carrying member of Y'all Qaeda. http://ift.tt/1YCbhUx
Ted Cruz Describes Alleged Planned Parenthood Shooter As ‘Transgendered Leftist Activist’
Nov 29, 2015 Think Progress.org
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"Mackeith Jones @MackeithJones , 29 Nov 2015
I will, from this day forward, refer to right wingers/republicans as "Y'all Qaeda" because let's be honest. That's what they are."
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"Jake Turk @71djt, 2 Dec 2015
Jake Turk Retweeted Zaibatsu News Ⓜ️
I'll give Dubya that much. He did at least go through the motions, and it pissed off a lot of the Y'all-Qaeda base.
Jake Turk added,
Embedded image permalink
Zaibatsu News Ⓜ️ @ZaibatsuNews Unlike The GOP Presidential Field, Former Pres. G.W. Bush Separated Islam From Terrorism http://mm4a.org/1N3b5Fz "
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2. The use of the term "Y'all Qaeda" and the reference to "redneck terrorism" reflect long held negative attitudes in the United States toward poor people living in rural areas (living in the country, meaning the opposite of the city).
Definition for "redneck" from http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/redneck
"a white person who lives in a small town or in the country especially in the southern U.S., who typically has a working-class job, and who is seen by others as being uneducated and having opinions and attitudes that are offensive"
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3. VanillaISIS (VanillaIsis)- a play on the word "vanilla" meaning "white" and the acronym ISIS, the Middle Eastern terrorist group
The derisive group name "VanillaIsis" is a variant form of the name "WhiteIsis" which television host Trevor Noah and a Muslim man portraying a senior correspondent used to describe Republican Presidential candidate Donald Trump in an episode of Noah's television program The Daily Show http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/262599-trevor-noah-trump-is-white-isis
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4. "YeeHawd" (yeehawdist) is a play on words on the Arabic term "jihad" (jihadist) as well as the American words "Hee Haw".
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jihad
"Jihad... is an Islamic term referring to the religious duty of Muslims to maintain the religion. In Arabic, the word jihād is a noun meaning the act of "striving, applying oneself, struggling, persevering"...
Muslims and scholars do not all agree on its definition. Many observers—both Muslim[6] and non-Muslim[7]—as well as the Dictionary of Islam,[3] talk of jihad having two meanings: an inner spiritual struggle (the "greater jihad"), and an outer physical struggle against the enemies of Islam (the "lesser jihad")[3][8] which may take a violent or non-violent form.[1][9] Jihad is often translated as "Holy War",[10][11][12] although this term is controversial”...
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From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hee_Haw
"Yeehaw or Yee-haw is an interjection expressing joy or exuberance and is stereotypically associated with Cowboys in various portrayals of the American Old West in the Western genre of film, television, radio, and literature in the 20th Century."
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Reflecting its use as the title of that influential television series, the term "Yee-haw" is now closely associated with country people from the American West as well as in other regions of the USA. "Yee Haw" is mostly considered a put-down for those people.
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YokelHaram - is a play on the English word "Yokel" and the Arabic word "haram" and/or "harem".
Yokel
From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/yokel
"used as an insulting word for a person who lives in a small town or in the country far away from cities and is regarded as stupid"
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Haram
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Masjid_al-Haram
"The Masjid al-Ḥarām (Arabic: المسجد الحرام, literally "the sacred mosque"), also called the Sacred Mosque, and the Grand Mosque[2] or Great Mosque of Mecca, is the largest mosque in the world and surrounds Islam's holiest place, the Kaaba,[3] in the city of Mecca, Saudi Arabia. Muslims face in the Qibla (direction of the Kaaba) while performing Salat (obligatory daily prayers)."
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From http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/harem
"Harem
"a house or part of a house in which the women of a Muslim household live
the women who live in a harem in a Muslim household
a group of women who are associated with one man"
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Thanks to commenter slam2011 for this likely source for the "Haram" part of the derisive name "Yokelharam": slam2011January 6, 2016 at 5:03 AM
"Yokelharam may reference 'Procul Harum'? a 60s English band whose biggest hit was 'A Whiter Shade of Pale'."...
Read that full comment below.
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CowTippingTerrorists - reflects negative attitudes toward rural people (cowboys); reflects the view that the Oregon occupiers of the federal building are domestic terrorist. [Also, see the name "SaturdayNightTreason" in that list.
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#FailQueda - reflects negative opinions regarding the views and the actions taken by the Oregon occupiers
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#Infantada - a play on the English word "infant" (reflecting a very low opinion about those adults' actions) and a play on the Arabic word "intifada"
From https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intifada
"Intifada (انتفاضة intifāḍah) is an Arabic word literally meaning, as a noun, "tremor", "shivering", "shuddering".[1][2] It is derived from an Arabic term nafada meaning "to shake", "shake off", "get rid of",[1] as a dog might shrug off water, or as one might shake off sleep,[3] or dirt from one's sandals,[4] and is a key concept in contemporary Arabic usage referring to a legitimate uprising against oppression.[5] It is often rendered into English as "uprising", "resistance", or "rebellion"."
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Example #5:
Shania law - a play on the Arabic term "sharia law" and probably also a play on the name of Canadian country music singer and songwriter Shania Twain who is considered to be "the Queen of Country Pop" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shania_Twain
sharia law
From http://www.thefreedictionary.com/sharia+law
"the code of law derived from the Koran and from the teachings and example of Mohammed; "sharia is only applicable to Muslims"; "under Islamic law there is no separation of church and state""
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Example #6
Read the entry for Example #3.
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Example #7:
Y'all Qaeda and Yeehawdist - Read the first entry for Y'all Qaeda and the entry for "Yeehaw" in #4.
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Example #8:
Read the first entry for Y'all Qaeda.
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Example #9:
Read the first entry for Y'all Qaeda and the entry for "Yeehaw" in #4.
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Example #10:
Talibundy = a referent for the Oregon militants and others who share their beliefs. That referent is made by combining the beginning of the word "Taliban" with the last name "Bundy".
Cattle rancher Cliven Bundy and sons were part of an armed standoff April 5, 2014 with the United States Bureau of Land Management (BLM) and cattle rancher Cliven Bundy, over unpaid grazing fees on federally owned land in southeastern Nevada.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bundy_standoff
Cliven's son Ammon Bundy appears to be a key spokesperson for the people who are occupying the Oregon federal building. http://abcnews.go.com/US/militia-family-cliven-bundy-federal-land-national-wildlife/story?id=36064909
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ADDENDUM
Selected tweets about this occupation from http://www.rawstory.com/2016/01/yall-qaeda-twitter-users-mock-oregon-right-wing-militia-action-and-its-awesome/
"‘Y’all Qaeda’: Twitter users mock Oregon right-wing militia action — and it’s awesome" by David Ferguson03 Jan 2016
Bernie Sanders @BernSanders2016
"And people say white privilege doesn't exist. Smh" #OregonUnderAttack
4:21 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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Smh = "shake my head" (This gesture can mean exasperation, and/or amazement, and/or disdain etc.)
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Cenk Uygur
@cenkuygur
"Let's be clear: If Muslims had seized a federal building, they'd all be dead by now. #whiteprivilege #OregonUnderAttack"
5:02 PM - 3 Jan 2016
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Danielle Muscato
@daniellemuscato
"News flash: If you take over a gov't bldg with guns and make a "goodbye" video, you are terrorists, not a "militia." #OregonUnderAttack
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Thursday, February 5, 2015
Black House Parties Then & Now (Part II: Sean Paul's "Get Busy" Video)
Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part II of a two part series on Black house parties in the 1990s and 2000s.
Part II showcases the video of Sean Paul's Dancehall record "Get Busy". This song is sometimes colloquially referred to as "Shake That Thing Miss Annabella". Although this video was filmed in Canada and showcases Jamaican style house parties, I'm assuming that house parties also were (or are) that way in Jamaica. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/black-house-parties-then-now-part-i.html for Part I of this series.
Part I showcases a video of the dance off scene from the 1990 African American comedy/drama House Party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, historical, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Sean Paul and all those associated with this video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post, and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Sean Paul - Get Busy
Maja Martin, Uploaded on Aug 2, 2008
Sean Paul performing Get Busy - Official Music Video
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Sean Paul is a Jamaican Dancehall singer. "Get Busy" was released in 2002.
This video was filmed in Toronto, Canada . Notice the parkas (winter jackets). Toronto has a considerable number of residents who are of Jamaican or other Caribbean descent.
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http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/seanpaul/getbusy.html
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/03/what-sean-pauls-get-busy-shake-that.html for a pancocojams post that provides explanations for the lyrics to Sean Paul's "Get Busy".
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SELECTED COMMENTS From that video's viewer comment thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmxD7jDuPR0
There were 1,613 comments on that video thread at the time that I completed this post. The selected comments below are representative of two categories. The first category contains comments that compare early 2000s house parties given by Black Canadians, and African Americans (and presumably Jamaicans and other people in the Caribbean) with house parties given by those populations in the mid 2000s. The second category contains additional comments about the dancing in that video and about other aspects of that video.
I've posted these selected comments within one of those categories and assigned them a number within that category for referencing purposes only. With the exception of replies, the oldest dated comments are given first. However, these comments aren't nessarily given in sequential order.
Category #1: Comments Comparing 1990s (or earlier) house parties to house parties in the 2000s
1. Japoliony, 2010
"The Messed up Part is.... NOBODY throws house parties like this no more... EVERYBODY wanna run to the damn CLUB..."
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The club = nightclub [Going to nightclubs is sometimes called "clubbing".]
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2. MrChr1st0pher1, 2011
"these were good times throwbacks & pinwheel fitted caps, basement parties"
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"throwbacks" = usually a term for something from the past, for instance, on "Throwback Thursdays" people on Facebook may post nostalgic photographs of themselves and others from their childhood or teen years.
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3. kiana young, 2011
"now thats a house party !"
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4. Soranyi perdomo, 2014
"I swear I think I should have been an 80s baby. Maybe then I would have been able to enjoy the good old days. Days that pertained of awesome music as such, & safe house parties. This generation suck A$$!"
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Category #2: Other comments about the dancing in this movie scene
1.lgov4, 2010
"Haha mad dancing!!"
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“mad” very good
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2.Vincent Johnson, 2010
"i luv the way the girls shake what there momma gave them"
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3. raphael1245, 2010
"the lil black kid got kicked out and he was busting the ill move."
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"busting the ill move" = doing a really good dance step. "ill", "sick", and "dope" = very good
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4. Missmuffinmcgee, 2010
"love the little boy. reminds me of my little cousin. :) and the old man is true to life! much love to my west indian people."
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Chyna Boo, 2010
5. "LOL that was all of us as kids moms n pops or older siblings throwin a house party and we sneak out our room to watch!!! lolz (hint) scene from the movie "Menace II Society" lol when caine was a kid"
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MelleAndKev, 2010
6. I love that kid @ 3:05. He makes the video. "Let's get it on til the early morn" so we can have another kid that we can send upstairs to bed while we're partying up in the basement. Hehehehe ;-)
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The video's inclusion of the young boy who snuck down to join the dancing adds to the authenticity of this depiction of a house party. Also adding to that authenticity is the scene of people getting food and talking in the kitchen, and playing cards or some other game at the kitchen table. I remember all of these from house parties in the United States in the 1960s and the 1970s.
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7. morpheusxnyc, 2010
"The choreography for this is siiiiick!"
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8. shaiska, 2010
this is the caribean style for ya you american girls watch so you can learn.and this girls are dancing what i would call normal wait untill you go to an carbean club and see what they do on the dance floor.
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9. PerfectAngel316, 2011
He had the best dancers in his videos - always on point.
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“on point” doing something the exact way it is supposed to be done.
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10. Mustafah Aldohdi, 2011
"SHAKE DAT TING MISS...WO'MAN GET BUSY GIRL SHAKE DAT BOOTY HAHA DAT IS MY SONG JAMAICA ALL DAII ITS HARD NOT TO WHINE TO A SEAN PAUL DANCE"
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"whine" = the dancing style that is done by gyrating your hips
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11. she487, 2011
THE DANCING IS HOT IN THIS VIDEO
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"hot" = very good, particularly in sexually provocative, seductive ways
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12. el jordo, 2011
"Why does everyone have crack lighters?"
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"Crack lighters" are called "lighters" (cigarette lighters) in the USA.
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13. Lady Sachellein, 2011
in reply to el jordo
"@eljordo765 was a trend in the dance hall to raise a light when you think a song is hype.........was the cool thing to do"
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It was also a very dangerous thing to do, in a basement, or on any crowded dance floor.
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14. ADMNP, 2011
"this video broke so many fire code rules smh...and then he had the nerve to ask for "mo fyah" lmao no wonder the man threw them out"
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"mo fyah" = more fire
amh- shaking my head (in exasperation and/or disgust)
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15. chum1978, 2014
"Remind me of house parties in Canadian winter. Cold outside but hot like Jamaica in the basement
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This is the end of Part II of this series.
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This is Part II of a two part series on Black house parties in the 1990s and 2000s.
Part II showcases the video of Sean Paul's Dancehall record "Get Busy". This song is sometimes colloquially referred to as "Shake That Thing Miss Annabella". Although this video was filmed in Canada and showcases Jamaican style house parties, I'm assuming that house parties also were (or are) that way in Jamaica. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post.
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/black-house-parties-then-now-part-i.html for Part I of this series.
Part I showcases a video of the dance off scene from the 1990 African American comedy/drama House Party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, historical, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to Sean Paul and all those associated with this video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post, and thanks to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: Sean Paul - Get Busy
Maja Martin, Uploaded on Aug 2, 2008
Sean Paul performing Get Busy - Official Music Video
-snip-
Sean Paul is a Jamaican Dancehall singer. "Get Busy" was released in 2002.
This video was filmed in Toronto, Canada . Notice the parkas (winter jackets). Toronto has a considerable number of residents who are of Jamaican or other Caribbean descent.
-snip-
http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/seanpaul/getbusy.html
Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/03/what-sean-pauls-get-busy-shake-that.html for a pancocojams post that provides explanations for the lyrics to Sean Paul's "Get Busy".
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SELECTED COMMENTS From that video's viewer comment thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmxD7jDuPR0
There were 1,613 comments on that video thread at the time that I completed this post. The selected comments below are representative of two categories. The first category contains comments that compare early 2000s house parties given by Black Canadians, and African Americans (and presumably Jamaicans and other people in the Caribbean) with house parties given by those populations in the mid 2000s. The second category contains additional comments about the dancing in that video and about other aspects of that video.
I've posted these selected comments within one of those categories and assigned them a number within that category for referencing purposes only. With the exception of replies, the oldest dated comments are given first. However, these comments aren't nessarily given in sequential order.
Category #1: Comments Comparing 1990s (or earlier) house parties to house parties in the 2000s
1. Japoliony, 2010
"The Messed up Part is.... NOBODY throws house parties like this no more... EVERYBODY wanna run to the damn CLUB..."
-snip-
The club = nightclub [Going to nightclubs is sometimes called "clubbing".]
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2. MrChr1st0pher1, 2011
"these were good times throwbacks & pinwheel fitted caps, basement parties"
-snip-
"throwbacks" = usually a term for something from the past, for instance, on "Throwback Thursdays" people on Facebook may post nostalgic photographs of themselves and others from their childhood or teen years.
**
3. kiana young, 2011
"now thats a house party !"
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4. Soranyi perdomo, 2014
"I swear I think I should have been an 80s baby. Maybe then I would have been able to enjoy the good old days. Days that pertained of awesome music as such, & safe house parties. This generation suck A$$!"
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Category #2: Other comments about the dancing in this movie scene
1.lgov4, 2010
"Haha mad dancing!!"
-snip-
“mad” very good
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2.Vincent Johnson, 2010
"i luv the way the girls shake what there momma gave them"
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3. raphael1245, 2010
"the lil black kid got kicked out and he was busting the ill move."
-snip-
"busting the ill move" = doing a really good dance step. "ill", "sick", and "dope" = very good
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4. Missmuffinmcgee, 2010
"love the little boy. reminds me of my little cousin. :) and the old man is true to life! much love to my west indian people."
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Chyna Boo, 2010
5. "LOL that was all of us as kids moms n pops or older siblings throwin a house party and we sneak out our room to watch!!! lolz (hint) scene from the movie "Menace II Society" lol when caine was a kid"
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MelleAndKev, 2010
6. I love that kid @ 3:05. He makes the video. "Let's get it on til the early morn" so we can have another kid that we can send upstairs to bed while we're partying up in the basement. Hehehehe ;-)
-snip-
The video's inclusion of the young boy who snuck down to join the dancing adds to the authenticity of this depiction of a house party. Also adding to that authenticity is the scene of people getting food and talking in the kitchen, and playing cards or some other game at the kitchen table. I remember all of these from house parties in the United States in the 1960s and the 1970s.
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7. morpheusxnyc, 2010
"The choreography for this is siiiiick!"
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8. shaiska, 2010
this is the caribean style for ya you american girls watch so you can learn.and this girls are dancing what i would call normal wait untill you go to an carbean club and see what they do on the dance floor.
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9. PerfectAngel316, 2011
He had the best dancers in his videos - always on point.
-snip-
“on point” doing something the exact way it is supposed to be done.
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10. Mustafah Aldohdi, 2011
"SHAKE DAT TING MISS...WO'MAN GET BUSY GIRL SHAKE DAT BOOTY HAHA DAT IS MY SONG JAMAICA ALL DAII ITS HARD NOT TO WHINE TO A SEAN PAUL DANCE"
-snip-
"whine" = the dancing style that is done by gyrating your hips
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11. she487, 2011
THE DANCING IS HOT IN THIS VIDEO
-snip-
"hot" = very good, particularly in sexually provocative, seductive ways
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12. el jordo, 2011
"Why does everyone have crack lighters?"
-snip-
"Crack lighters" are called "lighters" (cigarette lighters) in the USA.
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13. Lady Sachellein, 2011
in reply to el jordo
"@eljordo765 was a trend in the dance hall to raise a light when you think a song is hype.........was the cool thing to do"
-snip-
It was also a very dangerous thing to do, in a basement, or on any crowded dance floor.
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14. ADMNP, 2011
"this video broke so many fire code rules smh...and then he had the nerve to ask for "mo fyah" lmao no wonder the man threw them out"
-snip-
"mo fyah" = more fire
amh- shaking my head (in exasperation and/or disgust)
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15. chum1978, 2014
"Remind me of house parties in Canadian winter. Cold outside but hot like Jamaica in the basement
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This is the end of Part II of this series.
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Visitor comments are welcome.
Wednesday, February 4, 2015
Black House Parties Then & Now (Part I: The Dance Scene In The 1990 Movie "House Party")
Edited by Azizi Powell
This is Part I of a two part series on Black house parties in the 1990s and the 2000s compared with Black house parties in the mid 2000s.
In Part I the comments about house parties particularly focus on teens and young adult African Americans. In Part II the comments about house parties particularly focus on teen and young adult Black Canadians, particularly those of Jamaican descent. Presumably, some of the comments in that post also refer to Jamaican house parties for tthose age groups. However, these comments may also refer to house parties during the early 2000s and later that were given given by people from other populations.
Part I showcases a video of the dance off scene from the 1990 African American comedy/drama House Party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post. These comments about house parties particularly focus on teens and young adult African Americans. However, they may apply to other house parties for that population within the United States or elsewhere.
Click html http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/black-house-parties-then-now-part-ii.html for Part II of this series.
Part II showcases the video of the Dancehall record "Get Busy" by Sean Paul. That song is also known as "Shake That Thing, Miss Annabella". That video was filmed in Canada and showcases a Jamaican style house party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post. Presumably, some of the comments in that post also refer to Jamaican house parties for those age groups and may also apply to African American house parties and/or house parties for other races/ethnic groups in Canada and in the United States and/or elsewhere.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, historical, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the producers, directors, and stars of this movie. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post, and to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: House Party - Dance off - long version - Ain't my type of hype
Wil Val Uploaded on Jul 10, 2007
Kid N Play - House Party - "Ain't my type of hype"
Music: Ain't my kind of Hype....Full Force.
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SELECTED COMMENTS From that video's viewer comment thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l5PFs2eTc.
There were 2,243 comments on that video thread at the time that I completed this post. The selected comments below are representative of two categories. The first category contains comments that compare early 2000s house parties given by Black Canadians, and African Americans (and presumably Jamaicans and other people in the Caribbean) with house parties given by those populations in the mid 2000s. The second category contains additional comments about the dancing in that video.
I've posted these selected comments within one of those categories and assigned them a number within that category for referencing purposes only. With the exception of replies, the oldest dated comments are given first. However, these comments aren't nessarily given in sequential order.
Category #1: Comments Comparing 1990s (or earlier) house parties to house parties in the 2000s
1. FBC951, 2007
"this is when house partys didnt get shot up over what hood u was from. . . what happened?"
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2. ratesforless, 2008
...."I grew up in the '70s and '80s and we had house parties like this all the time. If you could dance, you were there and if not, you were at home. There was a better shot of Temple winning the BCS than you getting a phone number if you couldn't dance and found yourself standing on the wall. Then the '90s came, the 'boys in the hood' era began, and the rest, sad to say was history..."
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3. montey1, 2008
"The sixties, the seventies and the early eighties where the best when it came to house parties. This one takes place in 1990 just when my people started getting stupid and ignorant sorry to say. I had some wonderful times visiting my cousin's parties in Maryland back in the day. Good times gone."
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4.1lifestyle, 2008
"house partys were always violent,people dont understand this is a movie not real life"
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5. nevawrong6, 2008
"um, well i dont how old u are, but dont let this HOUSE PARTY clip fool you, because im 37 years old, & this movie was made in 1990, i was 18 at the time, & i can tell u straight up that the house parties back then were VIOLENT, with fights, [form of the n word] startin drama, & gun shots. yeah, it was more great dancin at the old school parties, but the violence was there also 100%, im suprised im still alive, lol, true story."
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6. wynetta84, 2008
"This movie symbolizes a change in time. When it was ok to dance and have a good time without disrspecting women in the songs! The girls in this movie were not as provocative as todays women, yet they were just as sexy with the same appeal. Just goes to show, do you really have to take off all youre clothes?Both the guys and girls represented well!Thats why I tip my hat off to ol' school. They kept it real back then and allowed the good times to roll!!"
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7.luvindogadis411, 2009
"One of the all-time best comedy/dance movies. Robin Harris (RIP), John Witherspoon, Full Force, Kid 'n Play, Groove B Chill, Martin Lawrence, Tisha Campbell, George Clinton and many more. So many memories from back then during my clubbing days. The teenagers today have no clue about real hip hop and house parties. What a shame."
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8. DJ Rexboogie, 2009
"This was like the house parties Igrew up with. To much light though."
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dgunsnfun, 2010
9. "I miss the days when hip-hop was fun!"
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ERIC F, 2010
10. "I can't believe it's been 20 years! Where did my youth go?? I went to many fun parties back in the day just like this one. People weren't so concerned about being "hard" and shooting the place up. I feel sorry for the kids today that don't have that opportunity. Gangsta rap took over and people forgot how to have fun!!"
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11. Dante95nyc, 2011
"I love how back in the day people would actually have fun at parties/dances. Nowadays people just stand around and look cute it's not even fun anymore=(."
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12. SuperTurkish101, 2011
"This Film, brings back all those great memories,when parties were parties, and people were happy .. Not killing each other like these days when u look or even touch someone by mistake .. All need to chile and have fun .. Peace ! ; )"
-snip-
"Chile" = is a typo for "chill" ("chill out", meaning "relax")
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13. Keishac78, 2011
"good times, good times,... i remember sneakin in the movie theater to see this movie.. we use to pratice the dance moves.. lol cant have house parties like this these days.. smh...."
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14.brollicon, 2011
"parties or clubs nowadays are full of fools who just want to fight"
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15. DjTIMEJD, 2012
in reply to brollicon
"Fools were fightin ALL the time back then!!"
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16. kennieth32, 2011
Man if this dont make you wanna have fun at a REAL house party, I don't know what will! This is how house parties should be! Actual dancing goin' on...smh
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17. D Cal, 2011
"This was how you handle something back in the days. A dance off!! Now it's all about handling something with guns. Too bad you can't have parties like this anymore. Please God bring back the late 80s and early 90s..."
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18. Kodi Morgan, 2012
"Back when it was still actually COOL to dance!!!!!!"
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19. Tube22productions, 2012
"Yes, fights, drinking and drama happened back then, but it depended on who you knew or where you had the party. My sister was in high school during this time and said all the parties she went to were very similar to House Party, before and after this movie"...
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20. tom11zz884, 2012
"Back when men were not ashamed to actually dance...nowadays, everybody wants to act all tough and stuff...all the fun is gone."
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21. Jay72288, 2012
"Dont know what yal talking bout, Party around my way is STILL like this"
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22. Youngblood437, 2012
"dis was da times wen yo friends had parties an u was able to go ta have a good time witout gun shots an hella drama yo worst enemy was the police breakin up da party"
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23. China Render, 2013
"This movie is a classic! The dancing isn't all about twerking booty popping its fun grooving and a little grinding but its all about having fun and hitting the dance floor with your friends and family! If our generation had parties like this Im sure they will have more fun this gen is all about tech w/o phones and internet they would loose there little minds!!"
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24. Cutie Pie, 2013
"i really wish parties were like this again and not just twerking and ratchetness"
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25. sarlndr, 2013
"I'm so glad I grew up with parties, music, & dancing like this. It was all about lookin' fresh for the girls and having a good time. Best part of the movie also, they were all gettin' down. SWITCH!!"
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26. JDezi4, 2013
"Modern day house party
Everybody sit around the stereo and drinks and smokes until they all pass out or until a fight happens"
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27. tom11zz884, 2013
in reply to JDezi4
"Or texting on their phones acting all anti-social."
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28. MrGlanderson, 2013
"This is how a party was back in the days. all of the local rappers would get on the mic, the local dance crews would do their thing. And everyone danced. Today kids don't dance anymore. They spend more time on their smart phones. When we partied we would steam up the windows and leave dripping with sweat. even the thugs danced."
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29. stephen hernandez, 2013
"these parties look fun, everyones happy! no one is texting on their phone... seems like a very social place."
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30. DJ Rod B, 2013
in reply to stephen hernandez
"thats cause back then not everybody had cell phones, most people had pagers, but you bring up a great point on how technology has complicated social places now days.."
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31. Deon Brown, 2014
"I don't know were these youngsters get the impression that the 80's and 90's were peaches and cream. Let me tell you, cats used to fight and shoot up house parties all the time. This is a movie, remember that."
-snip-
“were” = where
"cats" = guys
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32. jussmittin, 2014
"depending on where you live, they may shoot up your house over stupid stuff now. besides why have house parties when youngsters are too busy on their phones #smh"
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33. Javas Sylvester, 2014
Lol best movie ever when you had no worries of going to a party dancing is still in style you don't have to act hard all the time
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34. Auto Young, 2014
Before everybody was glued to their phones the whole party and you actually had to meet people and didn't just know em from instagram, Twitter, or Facebook.
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Category #2: Other comments about the dancing in this movie scene
1. mnstr4jc, 2008
"I remember catching Kid 'n' Play back in the day at a concert before they got hot. They were the warmup act for Salt 'n' Pepa. Man, those boys were bad back then. That was when they started the "Kick Step" for their stage show. Believe it or not, Kid's hair was even taller then!!! Man, I miss those times..."
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2. Nakiya G, 2008
"Kid N Play, of course, won the dance battle."...
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3. Zack Rimando, 2009
"whats was the dance move called at 1:50
ITS AWSOME!!!!!"
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4. diamond15605, 2009
in reply to Zack Rimando
"the Funky Charleston or the Kid N Play"
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5. ZeroMen, 2010
"what kind of dance style is this ?"
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6. Daintytwinkletoes, 2010
in reply to ZeroMen
"@ZeroMen It's hip hop battle dance. There are many forms of it, not just "one" type. Think of MC Hammer, B Boy Style, Pop & Locking, Freestyle. The list goes on, but this is what it is."
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7. Gen'te livingston, 2010
"yea its it ironic dat ppl came to parties baq n da day wit organized dance rountines lmao"
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"baq n da day" = "back in the day" [back then in time]
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pogistarr, 2010
8. in reply to Gen'te livingston
"You had to be prepared-kind of like a battle rapper! I don't know about where you're from but where I'm from, we took dancin' SERIOUSLY! Of course there wasn't routines with random folks like that, but I can definitely relate."
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9. polo_on_me, 2011
"whats the move where they lock legs"
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10. JLL H, 2012
in reply to polo_on_me
"...oldskool hip hop shuffle dance XD"
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11. harlemhoney3170, 2011
"The funny thing about this scene is that it actually wasn't part of the movie. This was when they were on break playing around and the director shot it and put it the movie."
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120. prettyd31, 2012
"I bet they had no idea at how epic this dance scene would become! When I was a kid, we tried to find ANY opportunity to do this dance."
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13. supremeakuma, 2012
"FUN FACT: ALL THE DANCE SCENES in this MOVIE were DONE with NOOOOOOO MUSIC.. they added the music AFTERWARDS.. TRUE HIP HOP"
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14. emaresea, 2013
LOL. Love how they can spontaneously dance in unison.
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15. Jessica E., 2013
in reply to emaresea
"Not spontaneous at all. This was one of the things you did with your friends to have fun back in the day...practice ya dance moves so you could bust it out at the next party. My mom used to let us (me and my 5 siblings) have house parties in the basement all the time. Kept us out of the streets...our friends too."
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16. rez ones, 2013
"i remember these parties like it was yesterday :) the running man, and all it's variants,the whop,the kid n play step,the cabbage patch,roger rabbit,the smurf and the steve martin. straight up classic material."
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17. GeneralG1810, 2013
"Sorry ladies but the boys won that round, great film good laugh"
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18. MissOldSchool32, 2013
"me and my cousin still do the kid & play dance til this day...lmao!!!...SWITCH!!!!"
-snip-
“Switch”!= Command to change dance partners
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19.almighty Don, 2014
"Actually Aj Johnson said on her unsung I think it was that the dance scene wasn't in the script they were actually really partying & battling. The director had went with their flow & had filmed it."
-snip-
A. J. Johnson was the dark skinned girl who was part of the dance off (dance battle).
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20. priest3332, 2014
"Good to know. Makes the scene even better.
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21. Nikki Delgado, 2014
..."We did this at a 90's party a few years back and topped it off with a soul train line.
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ADDENDUM
Here are additional comments from another video of this dance scene from the 1990 movie House Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_4l7bFKJk. These selected quotes are posted in the same categories as above:
Category I: Comparison of house parties then and now
1.danielbooneify, 2013
"There was so much more style and performance back then Hip hop really was an art And alot of fun to...."
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2. Pope Platinum, 2014
"its 2014... House Parties get shot up now routinely ... thats what happened to them now... those good old days are over"
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3. tswagg504, 2014
"+Pope Platinum I think it's just perception, of getting older. Im 30 and may not be as old as you, but at times I think things are worse now than they were maybe 10-15 years ago....but when I really compare, it was crazy back then too....it's always gonna be like that....the 70s folks were saying the same thing about the 90s kids."
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4. DJ Rod B, 2014
"+tswagg504 you both are right, I'm 40 lol (cnt believe that) but I graduated high school in 92 out here in LA it depends on where you have a house party at out here, if you have one in the hood most of the time it was all good cause nothing but your homies are there. But when you try to have a party in someone else hood better keep it on the low cause it can bring trouble."
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5. tswagg504, 2014
"+DJ Rod B exactly, you're 40, so you were a youth in the 90s and I can remember how much of a war zone my city was in the 90s, I'm glad I was too young to hit the streets......It's actually calmed down a little, because back then; you couldn't even step foot in a neighborhood you weren't from."
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6. ****, 2014
"Who had it better than us? Loud colors, high top fades, ma dukes on vaca, your boy that could dj, and the fine girls from school at the crib. Switch!!"
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Category II: Dancing
1. cloudkicker06, 2012
"Long live the Kick Step!"
-snip-
"The Kick Step" is often also called "the Kid N Play" because of this movie scene.
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3. Brooklyn Williams, 2013
"so how many ppl actually tried to learn these dances?? lol I know I did.. even Kid and Play's part hahahaha!"
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4. AoiGP, 2013
in reply to Brooklyn Williams
"my buddy and I would rehearse before the day of a party or better yet a wedding and the DJ has never heard of Full Force - Aint my type of hype so I had the cd ready. Its not as easy as you would think but it was fun!"
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5. MajestyProds, 2012
in reply to Brooklyn Williams
"HAHAHAHA. You too? Me and my sis still know the routine down pat. :)"
-snip-
"to know something down pat" = to really know it from the beginning to the end
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6. ggsnaps, 2014
"OMG the dancing was sick! The girls for sure did their thing but no one can compete with kid and play. The drunk dude did good but when play took his jacket off and stepped in it was ova ! I just don't understand why Kid had such a problem with that one girl he was dancing with when he wanted to switch. I didn't think she was bad looking."
-snip-
"sick"= very good
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7. Lauren Nicole, 2014
Reply
"Lol , its because he really wanted to dance with sharane."
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Also, here's some trivia about this movie:
kofib29, 2013
"Oh and did anyone else know the bullies in the movie sung this song they are dancing to. The group was called full force.
-snip-
The Hip Hop Group Full Force (who portrayed the bullies in House Party released their record "Ain’t My Type Of Hype” in 1989. If something or someone "ain't my type of hype", I'm not interested or excited about it or him or her.
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Taylor Lotsa, 2014
"Fun fact: All of the dance sequences in this scene were done with no music. A.J. Johnson choreographed her and Tisha Campbell's routine for the battle. The music was added after the dancing had been shot."
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This is the end of Part I of this series.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This is Part I of a two part series on Black house parties in the 1990s and the 2000s compared with Black house parties in the mid 2000s.
In Part I the comments about house parties particularly focus on teens and young adult African Americans. In Part II the comments about house parties particularly focus on teen and young adult Black Canadians, particularly those of Jamaican descent. Presumably, some of the comments in that post also refer to Jamaican house parties for tthose age groups. However, these comments may also refer to house parties during the early 2000s and later that were given given by people from other populations.
Part I showcases a video of the dance off scene from the 1990 African American comedy/drama House Party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post. These comments about house parties particularly focus on teens and young adult African Americans. However, they may apply to other house parties for that population within the United States or elsewhere.
Click html http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2015/02/black-house-parties-then-now-part-ii.html for Part II of this series.
Part II showcases the video of the Dancehall record "Get Busy" by Sean Paul. That song is also known as "Shake That Thing, Miss Annabella". That video was filmed in Canada and showcases a Jamaican style house party. Selected comments from that video's viewer comment thread are also featured in this post. Presumably, some of the comments in that post also refer to Jamaican house parties for those age groups and may also apply to African American house parties and/or house parties for other races/ethnic groups in Canada and in the United States and/or elsewhere.
The content of this post is presented for cultural, historical, and aesthetic purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to the producers, directors, and stars of this movie. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post, and to the publisher of this video on YouTube.
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SHOWCASE VIDEO: House Party - Dance off - long version - Ain't my type of hype
Wil Val Uploaded on Jul 10, 2007
Kid N Play - House Party - "Ain't my type of hype"
Music: Ain't my kind of Hype....Full Force.
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SELECTED COMMENTS From that video's viewer comment thread https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z1l5PFs2eTc.
There were 2,243 comments on that video thread at the time that I completed this post. The selected comments below are representative of two categories. The first category contains comments that compare early 2000s house parties given by Black Canadians, and African Americans (and presumably Jamaicans and other people in the Caribbean) with house parties given by those populations in the mid 2000s. The second category contains additional comments about the dancing in that video.
I've posted these selected comments within one of those categories and assigned them a number within that category for referencing purposes only. With the exception of replies, the oldest dated comments are given first. However, these comments aren't nessarily given in sequential order.
Category #1: Comments Comparing 1990s (or earlier) house parties to house parties in the 2000s
1. FBC951, 2007
"this is when house partys didnt get shot up over what hood u was from. . . what happened?"
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2. ratesforless, 2008
...."I grew up in the '70s and '80s and we had house parties like this all the time. If you could dance, you were there and if not, you were at home. There was a better shot of Temple winning the BCS than you getting a phone number if you couldn't dance and found yourself standing on the wall. Then the '90s came, the 'boys in the hood' era began, and the rest, sad to say was history..."
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3. montey1, 2008
"The sixties, the seventies and the early eighties where the best when it came to house parties. This one takes place in 1990 just when my people started getting stupid and ignorant sorry to say. I had some wonderful times visiting my cousin's parties in Maryland back in the day. Good times gone."
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4.1lifestyle, 2008
"house partys were always violent,people dont understand this is a movie not real life"
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5. nevawrong6, 2008
"um, well i dont how old u are, but dont let this HOUSE PARTY clip fool you, because im 37 years old, & this movie was made in 1990, i was 18 at the time, & i can tell u straight up that the house parties back then were VIOLENT, with fights, [form of the n word] startin drama, & gun shots. yeah, it was more great dancin at the old school parties, but the violence was there also 100%, im suprised im still alive, lol, true story."
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6. wynetta84, 2008
"This movie symbolizes a change in time. When it was ok to dance and have a good time without disrspecting women in the songs! The girls in this movie were not as provocative as todays women, yet they were just as sexy with the same appeal. Just goes to show, do you really have to take off all youre clothes?Both the guys and girls represented well!Thats why I tip my hat off to ol' school. They kept it real back then and allowed the good times to roll!!"
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7.luvindogadis411, 2009
"One of the all-time best comedy/dance movies. Robin Harris (RIP), John Witherspoon, Full Force, Kid 'n Play, Groove B Chill, Martin Lawrence, Tisha Campbell, George Clinton and many more. So many memories from back then during my clubbing days. The teenagers today have no clue about real hip hop and house parties. What a shame."
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8. DJ Rexboogie, 2009
"This was like the house parties Igrew up with. To much light though."
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dgunsnfun, 2010
9. "I miss the days when hip-hop was fun!"
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ERIC F, 2010
10. "I can't believe it's been 20 years! Where did my youth go?? I went to many fun parties back in the day just like this one. People weren't so concerned about being "hard" and shooting the place up. I feel sorry for the kids today that don't have that opportunity. Gangsta rap took over and people forgot how to have fun!!"
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11. Dante95nyc, 2011
"I love how back in the day people would actually have fun at parties/dances. Nowadays people just stand around and look cute it's not even fun anymore=(."
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12. SuperTurkish101, 2011
"This Film, brings back all those great memories,when parties were parties, and people were happy .. Not killing each other like these days when u look or even touch someone by mistake .. All need to chile and have fun .. Peace ! ; )"
-snip-
"Chile" = is a typo for "chill" ("chill out", meaning "relax")
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13. Keishac78, 2011
"good times, good times,... i remember sneakin in the movie theater to see this movie.. we use to pratice the dance moves.. lol cant have house parties like this these days.. smh...."
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14.brollicon, 2011
"parties or clubs nowadays are full of fools who just want to fight"
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15. DjTIMEJD, 2012
in reply to brollicon
"Fools were fightin ALL the time back then!!"
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16. kennieth32, 2011
Man if this dont make you wanna have fun at a REAL house party, I don't know what will! This is how house parties should be! Actual dancing goin' on...smh
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17. D Cal, 2011
"This was how you handle something back in the days. A dance off!! Now it's all about handling something with guns. Too bad you can't have parties like this anymore. Please God bring back the late 80s and early 90s..."
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18. Kodi Morgan, 2012
"Back when it was still actually COOL to dance!!!!!!"
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19. Tube22productions, 2012
"Yes, fights, drinking and drama happened back then, but it depended on who you knew or where you had the party. My sister was in high school during this time and said all the parties she went to were very similar to House Party, before and after this movie"...
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20. tom11zz884, 2012
"Back when men were not ashamed to actually dance...nowadays, everybody wants to act all tough and stuff...all the fun is gone."
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21. Jay72288, 2012
"Dont know what yal talking bout, Party around my way is STILL like this"
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22. Youngblood437, 2012
"dis was da times wen yo friends had parties an u was able to go ta have a good time witout gun shots an hella drama yo worst enemy was the police breakin up da party"
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23. China Render, 2013
"This movie is a classic! The dancing isn't all about twerking booty popping its fun grooving and a little grinding but its all about having fun and hitting the dance floor with your friends and family! If our generation had parties like this Im sure they will have more fun this gen is all about tech w/o phones and internet they would loose there little minds!!"
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24. Cutie Pie, 2013
"i really wish parties were like this again and not just twerking and ratchetness"
**
25. sarlndr, 2013
"I'm so glad I grew up with parties, music, & dancing like this. It was all about lookin' fresh for the girls and having a good time. Best part of the movie also, they were all gettin' down. SWITCH!!"
**
26. JDezi4, 2013
"Modern day house party
Everybody sit around the stereo and drinks and smokes until they all pass out or until a fight happens"
**
27. tom11zz884, 2013
in reply to JDezi4
"Or texting on their phones acting all anti-social."
**
28. MrGlanderson, 2013
"This is how a party was back in the days. all of the local rappers would get on the mic, the local dance crews would do their thing. And everyone danced. Today kids don't dance anymore. They spend more time on their smart phones. When we partied we would steam up the windows and leave dripping with sweat. even the thugs danced."
**
29. stephen hernandez, 2013
"these parties look fun, everyones happy! no one is texting on their phone... seems like a very social place."
**
30. DJ Rod B, 2013
in reply to stephen hernandez
"thats cause back then not everybody had cell phones, most people had pagers, but you bring up a great point on how technology has complicated social places now days.."
**
31. Deon Brown, 2014
"I don't know were these youngsters get the impression that the 80's and 90's were peaches and cream. Let me tell you, cats used to fight and shoot up house parties all the time. This is a movie, remember that."
-snip-
“were” = where
"cats" = guys
**
32. jussmittin, 2014
"depending on where you live, they may shoot up your house over stupid stuff now. besides why have house parties when youngsters are too busy on their phones #smh"
**
33. Javas Sylvester, 2014
Lol best movie ever when you had no worries of going to a party dancing is still in style you don't have to act hard all the time
**
34. Auto Young, 2014
Before everybody was glued to their phones the whole party and you actually had to meet people and didn't just know em from instagram, Twitter, or Facebook.
****
Category #2: Other comments about the dancing in this movie scene
1. mnstr4jc, 2008
"I remember catching Kid 'n' Play back in the day at a concert before they got hot. They were the warmup act for Salt 'n' Pepa. Man, those boys were bad back then. That was when they started the "Kick Step" for their stage show. Believe it or not, Kid's hair was even taller then!!! Man, I miss those times..."
**
2. Nakiya G, 2008
"Kid N Play, of course, won the dance battle."...
**
3. Zack Rimando, 2009
"whats was the dance move called at 1:50
ITS AWSOME!!!!!"
**
4. diamond15605, 2009
in reply to Zack Rimando
"the Funky Charleston or the Kid N Play"
**
5. ZeroMen, 2010
"what kind of dance style is this ?"
**
6. Daintytwinkletoes, 2010
in reply to ZeroMen
"@ZeroMen It's hip hop battle dance. There are many forms of it, not just "one" type. Think of MC Hammer, B Boy Style, Pop & Locking, Freestyle. The list goes on, but this is what it is."
**
7. Gen'te livingston, 2010
"yea its it ironic dat ppl came to parties baq n da day wit organized dance rountines lmao"
-snip-
"baq n da day" = "back in the day" [back then in time]
**
pogistarr, 2010
8. in reply to Gen'te livingston
"You had to be prepared-kind of like a battle rapper! I don't know about where you're from but where I'm from, we took dancin' SERIOUSLY! Of course there wasn't routines with random folks like that, but I can definitely relate."
**
9. polo_on_me, 2011
"whats the move where they lock legs"
**
10. JLL H, 2012
in reply to polo_on_me
"...oldskool hip hop shuffle dance XD"
**
11. harlemhoney3170, 2011
"The funny thing about this scene is that it actually wasn't part of the movie. This was when they were on break playing around and the director shot it and put it the movie."
**
120. prettyd31, 2012
"I bet they had no idea at how epic this dance scene would become! When I was a kid, we tried to find ANY opportunity to do this dance."
**
13. supremeakuma, 2012
"FUN FACT: ALL THE DANCE SCENES in this MOVIE were DONE with NOOOOOOO MUSIC.. they added the music AFTERWARDS.. TRUE HIP HOP"
**
14. emaresea, 2013
LOL. Love how they can spontaneously dance in unison.
**
15. Jessica E., 2013
in reply to emaresea
"Not spontaneous at all. This was one of the things you did with your friends to have fun back in the day...practice ya dance moves so you could bust it out at the next party. My mom used to let us (me and my 5 siblings) have house parties in the basement all the time. Kept us out of the streets...our friends too."
**
16. rez ones, 2013
"i remember these parties like it was yesterday :) the running man, and all it's variants,the whop,the kid n play step,the cabbage patch,roger rabbit,the smurf and the steve martin. straight up classic material."
**
17. GeneralG1810, 2013
"Sorry ladies but the boys won that round, great film good laugh"
**
18. MissOldSchool32, 2013
"me and my cousin still do the kid & play dance til this day...lmao!!!...SWITCH!!!!"
-snip-
“Switch”!= Command to change dance partners
**
19.almighty Don, 2014
"Actually Aj Johnson said on her unsung I think it was that the dance scene wasn't in the script they were actually really partying & battling. The director had went with their flow & had filmed it."
-snip-
A. J. Johnson was the dark skinned girl who was part of the dance off (dance battle).
**
20. priest3332, 2014
"Good to know. Makes the scene even better.
**
21. Nikki Delgado, 2014
..."We did this at a 90's party a few years back and topped it off with a soul train line.
****
ADDENDUM
Here are additional comments from another video of this dance scene from the 1990 movie House Party https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC_4l7bFKJk. These selected quotes are posted in the same categories as above:
Category I: Comparison of house parties then and now
1.danielbooneify, 2013
"There was so much more style and performance back then Hip hop really was an art And alot of fun to...."
**
2. Pope Platinum, 2014
"its 2014... House Parties get shot up now routinely ... thats what happened to them now... those good old days are over"
**
3. tswagg504, 2014
"+Pope Platinum I think it's just perception, of getting older. Im 30 and may not be as old as you, but at times I think things are worse now than they were maybe 10-15 years ago....but when I really compare, it was crazy back then too....it's always gonna be like that....the 70s folks were saying the same thing about the 90s kids."
**
4. DJ Rod B, 2014
"+tswagg504 you both are right, I'm 40 lol (cnt believe that) but I graduated high school in 92 out here in LA it depends on where you have a house party at out here, if you have one in the hood most of the time it was all good cause nothing but your homies are there. But when you try to have a party in someone else hood better keep it on the low cause it can bring trouble."
**
5. tswagg504, 2014
"+DJ Rod B exactly, you're 40, so you were a youth in the 90s and I can remember how much of a war zone my city was in the 90s, I'm glad I was too young to hit the streets......It's actually calmed down a little, because back then; you couldn't even step foot in a neighborhood you weren't from."
**
6. ****, 2014
"Who had it better than us? Loud colors, high top fades, ma dukes on vaca, your boy that could dj, and the fine girls from school at the crib. Switch!!"
****
Category II: Dancing
1. cloudkicker06, 2012
"Long live the Kick Step!"
-snip-
"The Kick Step" is often also called "the Kid N Play" because of this movie scene.
**
3. Brooklyn Williams, 2013
"so how many ppl actually tried to learn these dances?? lol I know I did.. even Kid and Play's part hahahaha!"
**
4. AoiGP, 2013
in reply to Brooklyn Williams
"my buddy and I would rehearse before the day of a party or better yet a wedding and the DJ has never heard of Full Force - Aint my type of hype so I had the cd ready. Its not as easy as you would think but it was fun!"
**
5. MajestyProds, 2012
in reply to Brooklyn Williams
"HAHAHAHA. You too? Me and my sis still know the routine down pat. :)"
-snip-
"to know something down pat" = to really know it from the beginning to the end
**
6. ggsnaps, 2014
"OMG the dancing was sick! The girls for sure did their thing but no one can compete with kid and play. The drunk dude did good but when play took his jacket off and stepped in it was ova ! I just don't understand why Kid had such a problem with that one girl he was dancing with when he wanted to switch. I didn't think she was bad looking."
-snip-
"sick"= very good
**
7. Lauren Nicole, 2014
Reply
"Lol , its because he really wanted to dance with sharane."
****
Also, here's some trivia about this movie:
kofib29, 2013
"Oh and did anyone else know the bullies in the movie sung this song they are dancing to. The group was called full force.
-snip-
The Hip Hop Group Full Force (who portrayed the bullies in House Party released their record "Ain’t My Type Of Hype” in 1989. If something or someone "ain't my type of hype", I'm not interested or excited about it or him or her.
**
Taylor Lotsa, 2014
"Fun fact: All of the dance sequences in this scene were done with no music. A.J. Johnson choreographed her and Tisha Campbell's routine for the battle. The music was added after the dancing had been shot."
****
This is the end of Part I of this series.
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Monday, October 6, 2014
Hip Hop, Doo Wop, And Country Music Songs That Include Pick Up Lines
Edited by Azizi Powell
I knew nothing about the 2008 Hip-Hop song "Shakin My Head" (smh) by Detail featuring Flo Rida until I did some online research bout the vernacular meaning of smh. As a result of that research I leaned that (apart from "shaking one's head" meaning "no" in many cultures, that gesture also can mean exasperation, disgust, and/or disdain at something or someone who is foolish, ignorant, or offensive. Read more about http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-smh-really-means-information.html.
However, in the Hip-Hop song "Shakin My Head", that gesture means something completely different - "smh" is a gesture usually done by males to convey their appreciation of a female's sexy [hot] body. As such, that gesture is done after looking her up and done (otherwise known as "ogling her" and "checkin [a girl] out". As such, this meaning of "shakin my head"- along with utterances of the multi-purpose phrase "un un un" or the phrase "ah suki suki" join cat calls and wolf whistles as something that is done whilee ogling attractive women. In the United States cat calls and wolf whistles are generally associated with males of any race or ethnicity (with "ethnicity" in the USA meaning Latino/Hispanic), shaking one's head while saying "un un un" or "ah suki suki" is mostly associated with African American males.
Here's a lyric excerpt of Detail featuring Flo Rida's song "Shakin My Head"
"I'm shakin my head
Hey Hey
And all these fly girls
Its like
Hey Hey Hey
And they gonna need someone
So hot hot hot
Tight jeans and bodies like
Hey Hey Oh Yeah
Got me shakin my head"
http://www.metrolyrics.com/shakin-my-head-lyrics-detail.html
-snip-
"fly girls are so hot" = A fly girl is one who is not only attractive, but is also "hip" (to urban African American street culturee. A female who is "hot" is one who has a sexy body.
WARNING: As is the case with many (but not all) Hip-Hop songs, that record includes sexualized slang references for body parts, and profanity. For that reason, I'm not going to link to the video. However, what disturbs me most about that song and many other Hip-Hop/R&B songs is how females are objectified as a body which males can use just for sexual purposes. Any female who is considered "hot" by males is "game" to be ogled. These records reflect and reinforce the societal belief that females should feel complimented if they are the recepient of "cat calls", "wolf whistles" and/or other forms of ogling. Note: "Cat" is a referent for females, while "wolf" (and "dog") refer to males. All of these animal referents have negative connotations. However, regarding ogling and "picking up" females, they usually are considered to be positives.
The African American vernacular phrases "spit game" is another term for trying to attract the attention of an attractive female, mainly for sexual purposes. Another way of saying this is "trying to "hook up" with someone, although "hooking up" may also describe romantic relationships which also may involve sex. Males who are trying to hook up with females often use "pick up" lines. "Hitting on" [someone] is an African American vernacular term for the using pick up lines to attract the attention of a female. In this regard "hitting on" doesn't mean to physically attact someone. I think that the phrase "hitting on" came from the sports term "to score a hit", but I'm not sure about that.
There are several websites that list Hip-Hop/R&B songs that include pick up lines. One of those sites is http://www.singersroom.com/content/2007-12-09/Hip-Hop-Pick-Up-Lines/.
Here's an excerpt of that article's introduction:
“Hip Hop and R&B have been using pick up lines for as long as we can remember. While these lyrical lines can be very entertaining and funny, some of them are getting out of hand. These lines are some how provoking lames every where to feel they have a chance. Unfortunately for them, they are falling victim to the hip hop
pick up line.
Many “unorginators” also know as biters are plaguing the streets and clubs fully equip with your favorite artists lines. Just in case any of you imitation stars read this you are not Jay-Z, Usher, Diddy, or any other celebrity for that matter. “Excuse me miss” is so old you have to use it in elderly homes...
Lines You Should Never Use
“What’s ya name what’s ya sign….”
Notorious B.I.G - Big Poppa
“Bet ya man can’t do it like that…..”
Fat Joe - Bet Ya Man Can’t
“Back seat of my jeep lets swing an episode.”
LL COOL J - Back Seat
“Excuse me miss I’m the sh*t you should come hang with me.”
Jay-Z - Excuse Me Miss"
-snip-
The asterisks in the spelling of the "curse words" were in the original article.
Here's an excerpt of the 2008 Hip Hop/R&B song "What's Your Name" by Usher:
"Ey Girl
Ey ey ey girl
Ey ey eh eh ey girl
Whats your name?
Baby, whats your number?
Cuz girl you got me, you got a brother wondering if you wanna, homie and a lover
I can be you friend till the end
Girl, wassup
Im going crazy
Ey girl wassup
Cuz i wanna know if i can love ya
Yo girl wassup
Yo wont ya be my lady ah?
Ey girl wassup
I wanna know who you are
Whats your name?
I wanna know who you are
Whats your name?
I wanna know who you are and make you a star
Girl, im giving you everything cuz my love is yours...
-snip-
Source: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/usher/whatsyourname.html
I'm not linking to this video for the same reasons that I gave for that earlier Hip Hop example. The photograph for that song shows Usher looking out of a car smiling.
A number of songs with pick up lines include the question "What's Your Name?" Foremost among those songs is this now classic 1962 Doo Wop song
Whats your name - Don and Juan - 1962
Musicman96Published on Oct 11, 2013
-snip-
Here are the lyrics to that song:
WHAT'S YOUR NAME
(Written by Claude Johnson)*
What's your name? Is it Mary or Sue?
What's your name? Do I stand a chance with you?
It's so hard to find a personality with charms like yours for me
Ooh-ee, ooh-ee, ooh-ee
I stood on this corner waiting for you to come along
So my heart could feel satisf-i-ied
So please let me be your Number One
Under the moon, under the stars, and under the sun
Oh-oh, what's your name? (what's your name?) Is it Mary or Sue?
What's your name? Do I stand a chance with you?
It's so hard to find a personality with charms like yours for me
Ooh-ee, ooh-ee, ooh-ee
What's your name?
What's your name?
Shooby-doo-bop-bah-dah!!
-snip-
Source http://www.songlyrics.com/don/what-s-your-name-lyrics/
Claude Johnson is one of the vocalist. The other vocalist is Roland Trone
****
Hip-Hop & R&B (Doo Wop) aren't the only genre of American music that contains songs with pick-up lines. However, romance is far less often a "hook up" goal in Hip Hop songs than in other music genre's songs that have pick up lines. For example, there are several online articles that list Country music songs that have pick up lines. One of those sites is http://theboot.com/pick-up-lines/. The #3 song on that list is Hank Williams' "Hey Good Lookin'"
Hank Williams ~ Hey, Good Lookin' (Mother's Best Flour Radio Show)
GatorRock788, Published on Jan 21, 2014
At the peak of his career in 1951 Hank Williams recorded 143 songs for the Mother's Best Flour Company radio shows.
-snip-
Regarding that song, the editor of that Boot.com article writes
"Pickup Line: "Hey, good lookin' / Whatcha got cookin'? / How's about cookin' somethin' up with me?"
This timeless track showcases all the best qualities of a great pickup line: Keep it short and to the point. A simple rhyme and clever metaphor are a recipe for pickup success.”
-snip-
As an aside, notice the dropped "g" in the title and pronunciation of the word "looking". This exemplifies the fact that dropping the 'g' occurs in American language usages besides African American English.
****
While these songs' tune, and/or beats, and/or lyrics may be aesthetically pleasing, there's increasing awareness that ogling females -saying pick up lines - often is a form of street harrasment. It's unfortunate that the phrase "street harrasment" isn't even mentioned in Wikipedia's article about pick up lines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick-up_line. Here's Wikipedia's definition of pick up lines:
"A pick-up line or chat-up line is a conversation opener with the intent of engaging an unfamiliar person for romance or dating. Overt and sometimes humorous displays of romantic interest, pick-up lines advertise the wit of their speakers to their target listeners.
They are most commonly used by men who pick up women."
-snip-
Nor is street harassment mentioned in any online article that I found about songs with pick up lines. Yet street harassment is a real and even walking home from school or standing at a bus stop can be dangerous for females all because of men trying to attract a female's attention, and rarely for the purpose of romance or "dates".
One YouTube video on street harassment is "Black Woman Walking - By Tracey Rose (Still Think This Is A Joke?)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-Eq6QGSfI
Note: One comment that includes profanity is found in the beginning of the video.
Needless to say, it's not only Black females that are subject to street harrassment, and it isn't only Black males who ogle, cat call, wolf whistle, and throw pick up lines at females. Unfortunately, that kind of behavior is widespread in the United States, and the only signs that this custom will change is the rising awareness and advocacy of women who have taken on this issue.
More power to them.
****
This post is presented for cultural and sociological purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post, and thanks to those who are featured in these videos.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
I knew nothing about the 2008 Hip-Hop song "Shakin My Head" (smh) by Detail featuring Flo Rida until I did some online research bout the vernacular meaning of smh. As a result of that research I leaned that (apart from "shaking one's head" meaning "no" in many cultures, that gesture also can mean exasperation, disgust, and/or disdain at something or someone who is foolish, ignorant, or offensive. Read more about http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2014/10/what-smh-really-means-information.html.
However, in the Hip-Hop song "Shakin My Head", that gesture means something completely different - "smh" is a gesture usually done by males to convey their appreciation of a female's sexy [hot] body. As such, that gesture is done after looking her up and done (otherwise known as "ogling her" and "checkin [a girl] out". As such, this meaning of "shakin my head"- along with utterances of the multi-purpose phrase "un un un" or the phrase "ah suki suki" join cat calls and wolf whistles as something that is done whilee ogling attractive women. In the United States cat calls and wolf whistles are generally associated with males of any race or ethnicity (with "ethnicity" in the USA meaning Latino/Hispanic), shaking one's head while saying "un un un" or "ah suki suki" is mostly associated with African American males.
Here's a lyric excerpt of Detail featuring Flo Rida's song "Shakin My Head"
"I'm shakin my head
Hey Hey
And all these fly girls
Its like
Hey Hey Hey
And they gonna need someone
So hot hot hot
Tight jeans and bodies like
Hey Hey Oh Yeah
Got me shakin my head"
http://www.metrolyrics.com/shakin-my-head-lyrics-detail.html
-snip-
"fly girls are so hot" = A fly girl is one who is not only attractive, but is also "hip" (to urban African American street culturee. A female who is "hot" is one who has a sexy body.
WARNING: As is the case with many (but not all) Hip-Hop songs, that record includes sexualized slang references for body parts, and profanity. For that reason, I'm not going to link to the video. However, what disturbs me most about that song and many other Hip-Hop/R&B songs is how females are objectified as a body which males can use just for sexual purposes. Any female who is considered "hot" by males is "game" to be ogled. These records reflect and reinforce the societal belief that females should feel complimented if they are the recepient of "cat calls", "wolf whistles" and/or other forms of ogling. Note: "Cat" is a referent for females, while "wolf" (and "dog") refer to males. All of these animal referents have negative connotations. However, regarding ogling and "picking up" females, they usually are considered to be positives.
The African American vernacular phrases "spit game" is another term for trying to attract the attention of an attractive female, mainly for sexual purposes. Another way of saying this is "trying to "hook up" with someone, although "hooking up" may also describe romantic relationships which also may involve sex. Males who are trying to hook up with females often use "pick up" lines. "Hitting on" [someone] is an African American vernacular term for the using pick up lines to attract the attention of a female. In this regard "hitting on" doesn't mean to physically attact someone. I think that the phrase "hitting on" came from the sports term "to score a hit", but I'm not sure about that.
There are several websites that list Hip-Hop/R&B songs that include pick up lines. One of those sites is http://www.singersroom.com/content/2007-12-09/Hip-Hop-Pick-Up-Lines/.
Here's an excerpt of that article's introduction:
“Hip Hop and R&B have been using pick up lines for as long as we can remember. While these lyrical lines can be very entertaining and funny, some of them are getting out of hand. These lines are some how provoking lames every where to feel they have a chance. Unfortunately for them, they are falling victim to the hip hop
pick up line.
Many “unorginators” also know as biters are plaguing the streets and clubs fully equip with your favorite artists lines. Just in case any of you imitation stars read this you are not Jay-Z, Usher, Diddy, or any other celebrity for that matter. “Excuse me miss” is so old you have to use it in elderly homes...
Lines You Should Never Use
“What’s ya name what’s ya sign….”
Notorious B.I.G - Big Poppa
“Bet ya man can’t do it like that…..”
Fat Joe - Bet Ya Man Can’t
“Back seat of my jeep lets swing an episode.”
LL COOL J - Back Seat
“Excuse me miss I’m the sh*t you should come hang with me.”
Jay-Z - Excuse Me Miss"
-snip-
The asterisks in the spelling of the "curse words" were in the original article.
Here's an excerpt of the 2008 Hip Hop/R&B song "What's Your Name" by Usher:
"Ey Girl
Ey ey ey girl
Ey ey eh eh ey girl
Whats your name?
Baby, whats your number?
Cuz girl you got me, you got a brother wondering if you wanna, homie and a lover
I can be you friend till the end
Girl, wassup
Im going crazy
Ey girl wassup
Cuz i wanna know if i can love ya
Yo girl wassup
Yo wont ya be my lady ah?
Ey girl wassup
I wanna know who you are
Whats your name?
I wanna know who you are
Whats your name?
I wanna know who you are and make you a star
Girl, im giving you everything cuz my love is yours...
-snip-
Source: http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/usher/whatsyourname.html
I'm not linking to this video for the same reasons that I gave for that earlier Hip Hop example. The photograph for that song shows Usher looking out of a car smiling.
A number of songs with pick up lines include the question "What's Your Name?" Foremost among those songs is this now classic 1962 Doo Wop song
Whats your name - Don and Juan - 1962
Musicman96Published on Oct 11, 2013
-snip-
Here are the lyrics to that song:
WHAT'S YOUR NAME
(Written by Claude Johnson)*
What's your name? Is it Mary or Sue?
What's your name? Do I stand a chance with you?
It's so hard to find a personality with charms like yours for me
Ooh-ee, ooh-ee, ooh-ee
I stood on this corner waiting for you to come along
So my heart could feel satisf-i-ied
So please let me be your Number One
Under the moon, under the stars, and under the sun
Oh-oh, what's your name? (what's your name?) Is it Mary or Sue?
What's your name? Do I stand a chance with you?
It's so hard to find a personality with charms like yours for me
Ooh-ee, ooh-ee, ooh-ee
What's your name?
What's your name?
Shooby-doo-bop-bah-dah!!
-snip-
Source http://www.songlyrics.com/don/what-s-your-name-lyrics/
Claude Johnson is one of the vocalist. The other vocalist is Roland Trone
****
Hip-Hop & R&B (Doo Wop) aren't the only genre of American music that contains songs with pick-up lines. However, romance is far less often a "hook up" goal in Hip Hop songs than in other music genre's songs that have pick up lines. For example, there are several online articles that list Country music songs that have pick up lines. One of those sites is http://theboot.com/pick-up-lines/. The #3 song on that list is Hank Williams' "Hey Good Lookin'"
Hank Williams ~ Hey, Good Lookin' (Mother's Best Flour Radio Show)
GatorRock788, Published on Jan 21, 2014
At the peak of his career in 1951 Hank Williams recorded 143 songs for the Mother's Best Flour Company radio shows.
-snip-
Regarding that song, the editor of that Boot.com article writes
"Pickup Line: "Hey, good lookin' / Whatcha got cookin'? / How's about cookin' somethin' up with me?"
This timeless track showcases all the best qualities of a great pickup line: Keep it short and to the point. A simple rhyme and clever metaphor are a recipe for pickup success.”
-snip-
As an aside, notice the dropped "g" in the title and pronunciation of the word "looking". This exemplifies the fact that dropping the 'g' occurs in American language usages besides African American English.
****
While these songs' tune, and/or beats, and/or lyrics may be aesthetically pleasing, there's increasing awareness that ogling females -saying pick up lines - often is a form of street harrasment. It's unfortunate that the phrase "street harrasment" isn't even mentioned in Wikipedia's article about pick up lines http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pick-up_line. Here's Wikipedia's definition of pick up lines:
"A pick-up line or chat-up line is a conversation opener with the intent of engaging an unfamiliar person for romance or dating. Overt and sometimes humorous displays of romantic interest, pick-up lines advertise the wit of their speakers to their target listeners.
They are most commonly used by men who pick up women."
-snip-
Nor is street harassment mentioned in any online article that I found about songs with pick up lines. Yet street harassment is a real and even walking home from school or standing at a bus stop can be dangerous for females all because of men trying to attract a female's attention, and rarely for the purpose of romance or "dates".
One YouTube video on street harassment is "Black Woman Walking - By Tracey Rose (Still Think This Is A Joke?)" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vp-Eq6QGSfI
Note: One comment that includes profanity is found in the beginning of the video.
Needless to say, it's not only Black females that are subject to street harrassment, and it isn't only Black males who ogle, cat call, wolf whistle, and throw pick up lines at females. Unfortunately, that kind of behavior is widespread in the United States, and the only signs that this custom will change is the rising awareness and advocacy of women who have taken on this issue.
More power to them.
****
This post is presented for cultural and sociological purposes.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post, and thanks to those who are featured in these videos.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
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Friday, November 22, 2013
Examples Of Black Slang In A YouTube Juke Dance Competition Viewer Comment Thread
Edited by Azizi Powell
This post is provides a list of twenty African American slang words, phrases, and/or sayings that are found in a YouTube juke [bobbin] dance competition video's viewer comment thread. By no means is this intended to be a comprehensive listing of African American slang in that viewer comment thread. Although this post only list 20 different slang words, phrases, or sayings, I've identified at least 100 different entries that could have been featured in this post.
WARNING: This YouTube comment thread includes profanity, explicit sexual language, and other content that may be inappropriate. None of that content is included in the examples that are featured in this post.
The content of this post is presented for etymological, cultural, and sociological purposes. These examples provide insight about the lifestyles, values, and opinions of persons who posted to this particular YouTube viewer comment thread.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
DISCLAIMER:
I don't consider myself an etymologist, but I am interested in the origin, meaning, and uses of words & phrases.
Additions & corrections are very welcome.
In the context of this post, by "Black Slang", I mean African American Vernacular English (AAVE) particularly Hip-Hop originated or influenced AAVE*. However, in some of these examples "downhome"** African American English and Internet/telephone text elements*** are also combined with that style of African American Vernacular English.
I'm not saying that everyone who used African American Vernacular English in this discussion thread was African American, particularly since the tendency is for much of that slang to be incorporated into standard American English. However, I believe that it's likely that the majority of those commenters were African American.
*By "Hip-Hop originated or influenced African American Vernacular English", I mean words & phrases that come from Hip-Hop culture, or whose meanings have changed or been expanded or whose usage (such as from a noun to a verb) have changed by Hip Hop cultural adherents. By Hip-Hop originated or influenced African American Vernacular English I also mean standard English words that are purposely spelled differently as a result of the influence of Hip Hop culture, and purposeful - not accidental grammatical - constructs such as "true dat" instead of "that's true".
**By "downhome African American English" I mean Southern American influenced dialectic English such as "she be", "dem", and ain't gonna" and Black church words & phrases such as "Upon my soul", and other features.
***By "internet/telephone text elements, I mean comments that include acronyms such as "lol" and "lmfao", comments with little or no capitalization, or punctuation, comments with run on sentences, words with repeated letters to denote enthusiasm, and other features.
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FEATURED VIDEO: Lani pop vs Mariah
Enzomaranello33, Uploaded on Dec 20, 2010
Juke
-snip-
This is part of a series of videos called “Juke Party”. According to most of the commenters, Mariah, the girl in the black (or blue) with the stripped shirt officially won this competition. LaniPop is the girl in the gray.
For some information about Juke music & dance, click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/11/jook-juke-words-phrases-in-caribbean-in.html "Jook (Juke) Words & Phrases In The Caribbean & In The USA"
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EXAMPLES OF AFRICAN AMERICAN SLANG FROM THIS FEATURED VIDEO
Note: These definitions are gleaned from my direct & indirect experiences. Additions & corrections are welcome.
1. AIN’T FEELING IT [phrase] - In the context of this comment, "Ain't feeling it" means "doesn’t have the heart for it; isn’t emotionally invested in it.
Comment example from video thread:
SM00CH3Z2YOU, 2012
"IDK I seen both vids with Fee Fee and Mariah Vs, Lanipop and to me it seems like Lanipop ain't feeling it no more. Like the BOB seems dead to her, Just Booty shaking period, With Fee Fee and Mariah you can tell they love it and feel it all day but Lanipop she just doing b/c its something to do. She didn't have any plans so she decided to go to the little BOB contest Bla Bla Bla Bla........... It could just be me but that's the feeling I get when I watch her Videos."
-snip-
"The Bob" ("Bobbin") is a type of Juke dancing that appears to me to be a form of "Popping". Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popping. "Fee Fee" is another prominent Bobbin competitor.
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2. BEEN PLAYED [adjective] - used to describe something that is no longer cool or popular because it received too much attention
Comment example:
McCalyTPhotography, 2013
"This dance been played years ago"
-snip-
"Been played" was formerly given as “played out”.
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3. [TO] BATTLE (verb), a dance competition between individuals with a referee. The winner is determined based on points scored. Fans of a particular competitor refer to themselves as "Team [competitor's name].
Comment example:
pebblestc31, 2013
"Mariah she got more moves :) she pop hard like me i wanna battle her ♥
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4. BOB BATTLE -(noun)- a battle (competition) between individual Bobbin dancers
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"This is still one of the best Bob battles ever."
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5. BOOTY (noun) - butt (buttocks), behind, rear end, etc
Comment example:
soleflyyy, 2012
"the name of the song is Put Your Booty in the Air by EQ Why !!!!!"
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6. BOOTAY (noun) - a hip way of pronouncing* and spelling the word "booty" [meaning "butt"]
* pronunciation Boo-TAY
Comment example:
rahnyc4, 2013
"girl in the black has a big ol bootay!"
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7. COLD WIT IT [phrase] - very serious & very cool about what is being done
Comment example:
sxyjellybean, 2012
"Yup! I agree Mariah was more versatile with her moves...She cold wit it..I like LaniPop,but Mariah won this one:-)
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8. GETTING OLD [adjectival phrase] - something whose popularity is fading; consequently it is now out of style & unpopular
Comment example:
Bobby Mobay, 2012
"Now, Y'all know the lil girl (Mariah?) killt it!! Her dance was more creative, had swagger, and didn't repeat moves. Popping your big ole booty is getting kinda old."
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9. GETTING IT [verbal phrase] - [in the context of this comment] this means "dancing well".
I think this vernacular meaning for "getting it" may have come from sports competitions where "it" in "getting it" meant "scoring points" to win the competition.
Comment example #1
lyric wynn, 2012
"i really dnt know who was better cause both of dem was gettin it"
Comment example #2
Ja'lencia Rucker, 2013
"the girl with the different color shirt was gtn it"
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10. GIRL FALL BACK [sentence] - To tell a female [in this case] to "fall back" is to tell her to figuratively back off [move away] from her statement or action. "Fall back" used this way has a clear threatening element to it. A somewhat similar way of saying "fall back", although one without any integral threatening connotation is "Get out of here" [with what you said because you are talking nonsense.*]
*Note that I had originally used the word "rubbish" instead of "nonsense", but I changed that word because "talking rubbish" is too much like the phrase "talking trash". "Talking trash" has a whole 'nuther meaning [using disparaging, taunting, or boastful comments to an opponent] than "talking nonsense"... and that's not quite the same thing as talking nonsense. But if a person talked trash to someone, that person could tell him or her to "fall back".
Comment example:
Certifiedbhaddchicks, 2012
"mariah won that battle lani pop thought she was geting her~girl fall back everybody know mariah won;]"
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11. GO GIRLS [exclamation] - In the context of this comment, "Go girls" is an exclamation of support. This exclamation probably came from the "Go team go" cheerleader cheer where "go" meant "Go on to win the game" and/or "Go score some points" etc.
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"Upon my soul! This was a fierce Bob battle. Lani Pop, and Pants On Fire Mariah went so hard on this. Upon my soul they went hard. Go Chi-Town girls
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"Pants on fire Mariah" is a [non-sexually] affectionate nickname for the bobbin competitor Mariah which apparently was coined by her fans. "Pants on fire" is lifted from the playground rhyme "Liar, Liar/Pants on fire".
That nickname for the Bobbin competitor Mariah demonstrates an aesthetic appreciation for rhyming, as does the nickname "Big Booty Judy" that one commenter in that thread used as a referent for Lanipop, and the referent "Skinnie Mimi" that another commenter used for Mariah (I think that "Mimi" was probably a typo for "Minnie".) Another commenter referred to Lanipop as "big butt Brenda" which reflects an appreciation for alliteration.
It seemed to me that all of those nicknames were meant to be physically descriptive without any insulting intent. That atatement includes the "Big Butt Brenda" referent since among African Americans, a young woman who has a "big butt" (also known as an "African booty") is generally admired.
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Read the entry for "Went hard" below.
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"Upon my soul!" is an example of what I call "downhome African American Vernacular English". Other examples of downhome AAVE are "I ain't got no___" , "gonna", and "Sing it! (But I'd categorize the present tense exclamation "Sang it!" as Hip Hop AAVE rather than downhome AAVE).
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12. HANDS DOWN (adverb) - to decisively win a competition, to win big [Read the comments above about "killed it" and "murdered"]
Comment example :
Bianca Theogene, 2013
"gurl in the jeans and colorful shirt one hands down"
-snip-
My guess is that "gurl" (girl) is purposely spelled the "Hip Hop" way, but "one" for "won" is a typo.
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13. HATIN; HATIN ON [verb] - spreading negative comments about a person out of jealousy
Comment example #1
mariah mason, 2013
"Hey everybody thanks for the comments and to the people that's hatin I dont practice dancing I do wat I do so if anybody wanna battle let's get it"
Comment example #2
jada dukes, 2013
"Ppl Always Hating On Lani Pop She Did Good Too #TEAMLANIPOP AllDay"
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14. HIGH WATERS [noun] - long pants whose length is too short for the person wearing them, causing the person's ankles to be seen
Comment example:
Tea' Fenner, 2012
"Notice The One With The Gray Sweat Pants Got On High Waters!!! Lol"
-snip-
Another commenter wrote "Where's the flood". The meaning of that comment is unclear if readers weren't aware about what "high waters" are.
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15. KILLED [KILLED IT ; KILLIN IT, KILLED HER] (verb) - did something very well, won [a competition] without any question
In the context of that competition, "killed it" means to "win decisively", to perform so well against your competition that there's no question that you won. "Murdered" and "slaughtered" are verbs with the same meaning that are also found in that video's viewer comment thread, but if someone "slaughtered" her or his opponent, there's no question that she or he won against a very weak opponent.
Comment example #1:
keannberry95, 2010
in reply to PookyBadder12
@PookyBadder12 excatly your not from the chi so why are you speaking! if you was from the chi you would know lanipop was crowned queen when bob just came out! this aint nothing new! yes mariah killed it but lani got the title cause she was one of the first! and fyi you cant kill anybody from the chi because this is what we do...<3 -snip- "Chi" is a nickname for Chicago, Illinois - the home of Juke music & dance. Comment example #2: Jaylesia Johnson, 2012 "the first girl killllllled it" Comment example #3: sunja Hill, 2013 "good battle on both ends but The little skinny killed, murdered, slaughter big girl!!! If lil girl had a body like the big one it wouldn't even be a competition that needed a discussion!!" **** 16. LIL MAMA [noun] - an informal referent for 1. a young female from babyhood to young adulthood; 2. a short female teenager or short woman or 3. a referent to the Hip Hop vocalist whose stagename is "Lil Mama [The rapper “Lil mama” got her stage name from the colloquial referent and not the other way around] Comment example #1: TheLeeluu23, 2012 "lil mama in the jeans got tht hands down Comment example #2: Fantashia Tyson, 2013 "if you ask me she looks like lil mama i mean look at her and she can dance just like lil mama" **** 17. SHAWTY (noun), a referent that can refer to a short person [usually a female], or children of any gender, or a general referent for a female from a man, although usually that female referred to is shorter than the male using that referent "Shawty" is derived from the standard English word "shorty" and reflects the practice in Hip Hop African American Vernacular English of coining word & spellings that more closely match the way that African Americans informally pronounce certain words. Comment example #1: jahstayfly91, 2013 "Shawtty in da grey omg" -snip- Note that Lanipop, the dancer competitor in the gray was taller than Mariah, the other competitor. Yet, the commenter referred to her as "shawtty". Comment example #2: Shakedatting2011, 2013 "Shawty in tha blue did it!! Otha shawty thought ha booty was gon make her win..NO [expletivee deleted]" -snip- This commenter refers to the shortest competitor Mariah as "shawty". In neither of those examples is "shawty" considered an insult. "Lil mama" is often used as a referent for females the same way as "shawty" is. **** 18.SMH [Update entry 9/30/2014] "smh" is an acronym that means "shaking my head' [in exasperation, disdain, disgust, disbelief, and/or annoyance]. From my online research, it appears that "smh" nymn is only used in written communication on the internet and in telephone text messaging. This 2009 Yahoo answer blog is the earliest documentation that I can find about "smh": https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090503231937AA75mhg. The anonymous poster asks "is smh a black internet slang?" He or she also wrote “i have no idea what it means, but i often see it in message boards and comment areas. the posters are always black people. can someone clue me in?”
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There are six responses to that query, all of them from 2009. The one that was ranked [by the person making the query] as the "Best respnse" was written by Chrissy. That response was
"It [smh] means
"shakin my head"
there you're clued in
Example:
Girl: What are you doin?
Boy: Smokin Crack..
Girl: Smh you're a loser
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Although the "Asker" gave this response the highest rating, she or he wrote "it sounds incredibly stupid".
Three of the five additional commenters to that blog post either self-identified as Black or their photograph appeared to be of a person most people would consider to be Black. (Although those gloggers didn't specify what "Black" means, I think it probably meant "African American". Each of those identified as Black responders indicated that they didn't know what "smh" meant. One of those commenters who used the screen name "knowitall" answered
"I'm black.. and I have no idea what it means..
Get over it..
Its just an internet slang..
That hasn't caught on yet.."
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A pancocojams post on "smh" will be published ASAP. When it is published, I'll add its link to this post.
"Smh" is usually used alone after a sentence, but may also be used at the beginning of a sentence.
Comment example #1:
DIYSandMore, 2012
[written in response to questions about what type of dancing is done in this video]
"It's chicago, Illinois. the style is JUKE ... it's in the description... smh
Comment example #2
Kiya Mckee, 2013
"all they girl in the blck is doing same thing smh"
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I believe that the high value that is placed upon speed in interent writing and [telephone] texting has created new norms that greatly minimize the importance of capitalization & punctuation. Furthermore, those "new norms" mean that words can be omitted as long as the comments/messsage could be understood -similarly to the "You" being omitted when writing a command such as "Come here."
In that example given above the word "they" may be a typo, but the spelling of the word "black" might have been purposely done because with that spelling, that word is understood.
Furthermore, I think the commenter purposely decided not to type the words "is the" after the word "doing" and before the word "same" as a form of typing shorthand because the commenter believed that most readers would know that those words were supposed to be there.
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19. THICK (adjective) - a person who has more weight than what mainstream America considers to be the ideal; "Thick" is usually applied to females where it is a synonym for a "big girl" or a teenager who is "built". "Thick" is sometimes, but not always, used as a euphemism for "fat"; It appears to me that among many African Americans, "thick" doesn't usually have the negative connotations that "fat" does.
Comment example #1:
unforgotten223, 2012
"Like if you think the skinny girl won and that you think everyone just chose the other girl because she thick.....!"
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"Like" here refers to the system YouTube has for readers to indicate their approval of a comment or a video.
Comment example #2
kishia84, 2012
"I think they both were good, and lanipop proved that thick chicks can work it too! Good job ladies!"
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20. WENT HARD [adverb] description of how well [how agressively] someone performed an activity such as playing sports, or, in this case competing in a Bob battle
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"Upon my soul! This was a fierce Bob battle. Lani Pop, and Pants On Fire Mariah went so hard on this. Upon my soul they went hard. Go Chi-Town girls"
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Thanks to Lanipop & Mariah who are featured in that video and thanks to the producer of that video. Thanks also to all those who I have quoted in this post.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
This post is provides a list of twenty African American slang words, phrases, and/or sayings that are found in a YouTube juke [bobbin] dance competition video's viewer comment thread. By no means is this intended to be a comprehensive listing of African American slang in that viewer comment thread. Although this post only list 20 different slang words, phrases, or sayings, I've identified at least 100 different entries that could have been featured in this post.
WARNING: This YouTube comment thread includes profanity, explicit sexual language, and other content that may be inappropriate. None of that content is included in the examples that are featured in this post.
The content of this post is presented for etymological, cultural, and sociological purposes. These examples provide insight about the lifestyles, values, and opinions of persons who posted to this particular YouTube viewer comment thread.
All copyrights remain with their owners.
DISCLAIMER:
I don't consider myself an etymologist, but I am interested in the origin, meaning, and uses of words & phrases.
Additions & corrections are very welcome.
In the context of this post, by "Black Slang", I mean African American Vernacular English (AAVE) particularly Hip-Hop originated or influenced AAVE*. However, in some of these examples "downhome"** African American English and Internet/telephone text elements*** are also combined with that style of African American Vernacular English.
I'm not saying that everyone who used African American Vernacular English in this discussion thread was African American, particularly since the tendency is for much of that slang to be incorporated into standard American English. However, I believe that it's likely that the majority of those commenters were African American.
*By "Hip-Hop originated or influenced African American Vernacular English", I mean words & phrases that come from Hip-Hop culture, or whose meanings have changed or been expanded or whose usage (such as from a noun to a verb) have changed by Hip Hop cultural adherents. By Hip-Hop originated or influenced African American Vernacular English I also mean standard English words that are purposely spelled differently as a result of the influence of Hip Hop culture, and purposeful - not accidental grammatical - constructs such as "true dat" instead of "that's true".
**By "downhome African American English" I mean Southern American influenced dialectic English such as "she be", "dem", and ain't gonna" and Black church words & phrases such as "Upon my soul", and other features.
***By "internet/telephone text elements, I mean comments that include acronyms such as "lol" and "lmfao", comments with little or no capitalization, or punctuation, comments with run on sentences, words with repeated letters to denote enthusiasm, and other features.
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FEATURED VIDEO: Lani pop vs Mariah
Enzomaranello33, Uploaded on Dec 20, 2010
Juke
-snip-
This is part of a series of videos called “Juke Party”. According to most of the commenters, Mariah, the girl in the black (or blue) with the stripped shirt officially won this competition. LaniPop is the girl in the gray.
For some information about Juke music & dance, click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2013/11/jook-juke-words-phrases-in-caribbean-in.html "Jook (Juke) Words & Phrases In The Caribbean & In The USA"
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EXAMPLES OF AFRICAN AMERICAN SLANG FROM THIS FEATURED VIDEO
Note: These definitions are gleaned from my direct & indirect experiences. Additions & corrections are welcome.
1. AIN’T FEELING IT [phrase] - In the context of this comment, "Ain't feeling it" means "doesn’t have the heart for it; isn’t emotionally invested in it.
Comment example from video thread:
SM00CH3Z2YOU, 2012
"IDK I seen both vids with Fee Fee and Mariah Vs, Lanipop and to me it seems like Lanipop ain't feeling it no more. Like the BOB seems dead to her, Just Booty shaking period, With Fee Fee and Mariah you can tell they love it and feel it all day but Lanipop she just doing b/c its something to do. She didn't have any plans so she decided to go to the little BOB contest Bla Bla Bla Bla........... It could just be me but that's the feeling I get when I watch her Videos."
-snip-
"The Bob" ("Bobbin") is a type of Juke dancing that appears to me to be a form of "Popping". Click http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Popping. "Fee Fee" is another prominent Bobbin competitor.
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2. BEEN PLAYED [adjective] - used to describe something that is no longer cool or popular because it received too much attention
Comment example:
McCalyTPhotography, 2013
"This dance been played years ago"
-snip-
"Been played" was formerly given as “played out”.
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3. [TO] BATTLE (verb), a dance competition between individuals with a referee. The winner is determined based on points scored. Fans of a particular competitor refer to themselves as "Team [competitor's name].
Comment example:
pebblestc31, 2013
"Mariah she got more moves :) she pop hard like me i wanna battle her ♥
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4. BOB BATTLE -(noun)- a battle (competition) between individual Bobbin dancers
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"This is still one of the best Bob battles ever."
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5. BOOTY (noun) - butt (buttocks), behind, rear end, etc
Comment example:
soleflyyy, 2012
"the name of the song is Put Your Booty in the Air by EQ Why !!!!!"
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6. BOOTAY (noun) - a hip way of pronouncing* and spelling the word "booty" [meaning "butt"]
* pronunciation Boo-TAY
Comment example:
rahnyc4, 2013
"girl in the black has a big ol bootay!"
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7. COLD WIT IT [phrase] - very serious & very cool about what is being done
Comment example:
sxyjellybean, 2012
"Yup! I agree Mariah was more versatile with her moves...She cold wit it..I like LaniPop,but Mariah won this one:-)
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8. GETTING OLD [adjectival phrase] - something whose popularity is fading; consequently it is now out of style & unpopular
Comment example:
Bobby Mobay, 2012
"Now, Y'all know the lil girl (Mariah?) killt it!! Her dance was more creative, had swagger, and didn't repeat moves. Popping your big ole booty is getting kinda old."
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9. GETTING IT [verbal phrase] - [in the context of this comment] this means "dancing well".
I think this vernacular meaning for "getting it" may have come from sports competitions where "it" in "getting it" meant "scoring points" to win the competition.
Comment example #1
lyric wynn, 2012
"i really dnt know who was better cause both of dem was gettin it"
Comment example #2
Ja'lencia Rucker, 2013
"the girl with the different color shirt was gtn it"
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10. GIRL FALL BACK [sentence] - To tell a female [in this case] to "fall back" is to tell her to figuratively back off [move away] from her statement or action. "Fall back" used this way has a clear threatening element to it. A somewhat similar way of saying "fall back", although one without any integral threatening connotation is "Get out of here" [with what you said because you are talking nonsense.*]
*Note that I had originally used the word "rubbish" instead of "nonsense", but I changed that word because "talking rubbish" is too much like the phrase "talking trash". "Talking trash" has a whole 'nuther meaning [using disparaging, taunting, or boastful comments to an opponent] than "talking nonsense"... and that's not quite the same thing as talking nonsense. But if a person talked trash to someone, that person could tell him or her to "fall back".
Comment example:
Certifiedbhaddchicks, 2012
"mariah won that battle lani pop thought she was geting her~girl fall back everybody know mariah won;]"
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11. GO GIRLS [exclamation] - In the context of this comment, "Go girls" is an exclamation of support. This exclamation probably came from the "Go team go" cheerleader cheer where "go" meant "Go on to win the game" and/or "Go score some points" etc.
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"Upon my soul! This was a fierce Bob battle. Lani Pop, and Pants On Fire Mariah went so hard on this. Upon my soul they went hard. Go Chi-Town girls
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"Pants on fire Mariah" is a [non-sexually] affectionate nickname for the bobbin competitor Mariah which apparently was coined by her fans. "Pants on fire" is lifted from the playground rhyme "Liar, Liar/Pants on fire".
That nickname for the Bobbin competitor Mariah demonstrates an aesthetic appreciation for rhyming, as does the nickname "Big Booty Judy" that one commenter in that thread used as a referent for Lanipop, and the referent "Skinnie Mimi" that another commenter used for Mariah (I think that "Mimi" was probably a typo for "Minnie".) Another commenter referred to Lanipop as "big butt Brenda" which reflects an appreciation for alliteration.
It seemed to me that all of those nicknames were meant to be physically descriptive without any insulting intent. That atatement includes the "Big Butt Brenda" referent since among African Americans, a young woman who has a "big butt" (also known as an "African booty") is generally admired.
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Read the entry for "Went hard" below.
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"Upon my soul!" is an example of what I call "downhome African American Vernacular English". Other examples of downhome AAVE are "I ain't got no___" , "gonna", and "Sing it! (But I'd categorize the present tense exclamation "Sang it!" as Hip Hop AAVE rather than downhome AAVE).
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12. HANDS DOWN (adverb) - to decisively win a competition, to win big [Read the comments above about "killed it" and "murdered"]
Comment example :
Bianca Theogene, 2013
"gurl in the jeans and colorful shirt one hands down"
-snip-
My guess is that "gurl" (girl) is purposely spelled the "Hip Hop" way, but "one" for "won" is a typo.
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13. HATIN; HATIN ON [verb] - spreading negative comments about a person out of jealousy
Comment example #1
mariah mason, 2013
"Hey everybody thanks for the comments and to the people that's hatin I dont practice dancing I do wat I do so if anybody wanna battle let's get it"
Comment example #2
jada dukes, 2013
"Ppl Always Hating On Lani Pop She Did Good Too #TEAMLANIPOP AllDay"
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14. HIGH WATERS [noun] - long pants whose length is too short for the person wearing them, causing the person's ankles to be seen
Comment example:
Tea' Fenner, 2012
"Notice The One With The Gray Sweat Pants Got On High Waters!!! Lol"
-snip-
Another commenter wrote "Where's the flood". The meaning of that comment is unclear if readers weren't aware about what "high waters" are.
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15. KILLED [KILLED IT ; KILLIN IT, KILLED HER] (verb) - did something very well, won [a competition] without any question
In the context of that competition, "killed it" means to "win decisively", to perform so well against your competition that there's no question that you won. "Murdered" and "slaughtered" are verbs with the same meaning that are also found in that video's viewer comment thread, but if someone "slaughtered" her or his opponent, there's no question that she or he won against a very weak opponent.
Comment example #1:
keannberry95, 2010
in reply to PookyBadder12
@PookyBadder12 excatly your not from the chi so why are you speaking! if you was from the chi you would know lanipop was crowned queen when bob just came out! this aint nothing new! yes mariah killed it but lani got the title cause she was one of the first! and fyi you cant kill anybody from the chi because this is what we do...<3 -snip- "Chi" is a nickname for Chicago, Illinois - the home of Juke music & dance. Comment example #2: Jaylesia Johnson, 2012 "the first girl killllllled it" Comment example #3: sunja Hill, 2013 "good battle on both ends but The little skinny killed, murdered, slaughter big girl!!! If lil girl had a body like the big one it wouldn't even be a competition that needed a discussion!!" **** 16. LIL MAMA [noun] - an informal referent for 1. a young female from babyhood to young adulthood; 2. a short female teenager or short woman or 3. a referent to the Hip Hop vocalist whose stagename is "Lil Mama [The rapper “Lil mama” got her stage name from the colloquial referent and not the other way around] Comment example #1: TheLeeluu23, 2012 "lil mama in the jeans got tht hands down Comment example #2: Fantashia Tyson, 2013 "if you ask me she looks like lil mama i mean look at her and she can dance just like lil mama" **** 17. SHAWTY (noun), a referent that can refer to a short person [usually a female], or children of any gender, or a general referent for a female from a man, although usually that female referred to is shorter than the male using that referent "Shawty" is derived from the standard English word "shorty" and reflects the practice in Hip Hop African American Vernacular English of coining word & spellings that more closely match the way that African Americans informally pronounce certain words. Comment example #1: jahstayfly91, 2013 "Shawtty in da grey omg" -snip- Note that Lanipop, the dancer competitor in the gray was taller than Mariah, the other competitor. Yet, the commenter referred to her as "shawtty". Comment example #2: Shakedatting2011, 2013 "Shawty in tha blue did it!! Otha shawty thought ha booty was gon make her win..NO [expletivee deleted]" -snip- This commenter refers to the shortest competitor Mariah as "shawty". In neither of those examples is "shawty" considered an insult. "Lil mama" is often used as a referent for females the same way as "shawty" is. **** 18.SMH [Update entry 9/30/2014] "smh" is an acronym that means "shaking my head' [in exasperation, disdain, disgust, disbelief, and/or annoyance]. From my online research, it appears that "smh" nymn is only used in written communication on the internet and in telephone text messaging. This 2009 Yahoo answer blog is the earliest documentation that I can find about "smh": https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090503231937AA75mhg. The anonymous poster asks "is smh a black internet slang?" He or she also wrote “i have no idea what it means, but i often see it in message boards and comment areas. the posters are always black people. can someone clue me in?”
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There are six responses to that query, all of them from 2009. The one that was ranked [by the person making the query] as the "Best respnse" was written by Chrissy. That response was
"It [smh] means
"shakin my head"
there you're clued in
Example:
Girl: What are you doin?
Boy: Smokin Crack..
Girl: Smh you're a loser
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Although the "Asker" gave this response the highest rating, she or he wrote "it sounds incredibly stupid".
Three of the five additional commenters to that blog post either self-identified as Black or their photograph appeared to be of a person most people would consider to be Black. (Although those gloggers didn't specify what "Black" means, I think it probably meant "African American". Each of those identified as Black responders indicated that they didn't know what "smh" meant. One of those commenters who used the screen name "knowitall" answered
"I'm black.. and I have no idea what it means..
Get over it..
Its just an internet slang..
That hasn't caught on yet.."
-snip-
A pancocojams post on "smh" will be published ASAP. When it is published, I'll add its link to this post.
"Smh" is usually used alone after a sentence, but may also be used at the beginning of a sentence.
Comment example #1:
DIYSandMore, 2012
[written in response to questions about what type of dancing is done in this video]
"It's chicago, Illinois. the style is JUKE ... it's in the description... smh
Comment example #2
Kiya Mckee, 2013
"all they girl in the blck is doing same thing smh"
-snip-
I believe that the high value that is placed upon speed in interent writing and [telephone] texting has created new norms that greatly minimize the importance of capitalization & punctuation. Furthermore, those "new norms" mean that words can be omitted as long as the comments/messsage could be understood -similarly to the "You" being omitted when writing a command such as "Come here."
In that example given above the word "they" may be a typo, but the spelling of the word "black" might have been purposely done because with that spelling, that word is understood.
Furthermore, I think the commenter purposely decided not to type the words "is the" after the word "doing" and before the word "same" as a form of typing shorthand because the commenter believed that most readers would know that those words were supposed to be there.
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19. THICK (adjective) - a person who has more weight than what mainstream America considers to be the ideal; "Thick" is usually applied to females where it is a synonym for a "big girl" or a teenager who is "built". "Thick" is sometimes, but not always, used as a euphemism for "fat"; It appears to me that among many African Americans, "thick" doesn't usually have the negative connotations that "fat" does.
Comment example #1:
unforgotten223, 2012
"Like if you think the skinny girl won and that you think everyone just chose the other girl because she thick.....!"
-snip-
"Like" here refers to the system YouTube has for readers to indicate their approval of a comment or a video.
Comment example #2
kishia84, 2012
"I think they both were good, and lanipop proved that thick chicks can work it too! Good job ladies!"
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20. WENT HARD [adverb] description of how well [how agressively] someone performed an activity such as playing sports, or, in this case competing in a Bob battle
Comment example:
Frostgrl681, 2013
"Upon my soul! This was a fierce Bob battle. Lani Pop, and Pants On Fire Mariah went so hard on this. Upon my soul they went hard. Go Chi-Town girls"
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Thanks to Lanipop & Mariah who are featured in that video and thanks to the producer of that video. Thanks also to all those who I have quoted in this post.
Thanks for visiting pancocojams.
Visitor comments are welcome.
Saturday, March 10, 2012
Puttin On The Black - Giving Someone A "Side Eye"
Edited by Azizi Powell
Latest revision- March 2, 2023
This is Part III of a three part series on using African American English on purpose in YouTube videos viewer comment threads.
Part I of this series provides an overview of what I call "puttin on the Black". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-online-black-talk-code.html for Part 1 of this series.
Part II of this series focuses on the use of Black (African American) vernacular in selected viewer comments from a Patti Labelle video. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-viewer-comments-about.html for Part II of this post.
Disclaimer: I'm not a linguist. I'm an African American who is interested in the use of language. Comments about this topic from linguists and others are very welcome.
PART III
DESCRIPTION OF THIS POST
Part III of this series presents a definition of "Puttin on the Black" and a definition of the Black originated body gesture called "side eye" ("cut eye"). This post also features two videos about "side eye" and selected comments from those videos' viewer comment thread that I believe are examples of "Puttin on the Black".
Side eye
"A facial expression expressing one's criticism, disapproval, animosity, or scorn of varying levels of intensity towards another person. Defined by one person looking at the other out of the corner of their eye(s) with a scowl, as their head is turned in a different direction. Often an invitation for a fight or confrontation of some sort. Synonymous expression: "cuttin' your eyes" (at someone). Popular expression (and common occurrence) among urban American populations.
"Girl, you see that heffa over there givin' me the side eye? She MUST be tryin' to start somethin'."
by B.T. Dec 6, 2007 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term%3DSide+Eye
Warning: Some comments on that website contain profanity and/or sexually explicit references and therefore may be inappropriate for children.
EYE ROLL
THE MEANING OF THE ACRONYM "SMH"
The acronym "SMH" (shaking my head" or "shake my head") is often used with "side eye" (or "cut eye"). SMH means that the person doesn't believe that something so stupid was said or done.
VIDEOS & VIEWER COMMENTS
Video #1: 56-whoissugar's side-eye Saturday Volume 2...3 days early
Uploaded by whoissugar on Mar 8, 2011
[Editor: This video is one of several "Side Eye Saturday" videos that whoissugar uploaded on YouTube.]
-snip-
Selected comments from http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=AWBHXrtInsI:
2011
"SIDE EYE EVENTS...
A male co worker called me "afrocentric," "neo soul," and "black panther" all BECAUSE I AM NATURAL!! SMH He gets the side eye every time I see him.
Target was sold out of Kinky Curly Curling Custard or at least that's what the sales worker told me. I believe they had some stocked in the back and he didn't feel like looking... *side eye*
Gas is entirely too high!! *side eye*
The weekend went by super fast... It's Sunday already? Dang!
-doogienahnah
****
Sug! I don't recall u mentioning u had a new job - but congrats on that! Let's see...side eye...side eye - oh - I got one! How bout my 12 year old son spends all his time either with his dad, his friends, on the computer, etc. He finally has a free minute that he decides to spend with me, but he can't cause I'm headed off to the gym for my daily hour. And what does my son have the nerve to say! "Mama! U spend more time at the gym than u do with your family. I want u to stop going!" Side eye!!!
-maximuslyricus
Editor: "Sug" is an abbreviation for the nickname "Sugar".
****
You act like me huney child lol gurl u r to funny sweets
-TheDawnmirage
****
@TheDawnmirage Lawd chile, I'm not alone in my craziness?
-whoissugar
****
Sugar, YOU get the side-eye for letting your youngest son iron your clothes! Kids + iron=disaster everytime! LOLOL
-dtp8806
****
Video #2: 28-whoissugar's side-eye saturday's! Volume 1
whoissugar, Uploaded on Jan 14, 2011 [Click to watch this video on YouTube.]
But, I thought you was a hair channel...
headwrap how to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9e1L...
chile, where you get them earrings?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVg435...
-snip-
Latest revision- March 2, 2023
This is Part III of a three part series on using African American English on purpose in YouTube videos viewer comment threads.
Part I of this series provides an overview of what I call "puttin on the Black". Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-online-black-talk-code.html for Part 1 of this series.
Part II of this series focuses on the use of Black (African American) vernacular in selected viewer comments from a Patti Labelle video. Click http://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2012/03/puttin-on-black-viewer-comments-about.html for Part II of this post.
Disclaimer: I'm not a linguist. I'm an African American who is interested in the use of language. Comments about this topic from linguists and others are very welcome.
PART III
DESCRIPTION OF THIS POST
Part III of this series presents a definition of "Puttin on the Black" and a definition of the Black originated body gesture called "side eye" ("cut eye"). This post also features two videos about "side eye" and selected comments from those videos' viewer comment thread that I believe are examples of "Puttin on the Black".
Explanation of that term written March 2, 2023 - "Putting On The Black" is a phrase I coined in 2012which refers to the conscious use of Black vernacular English online. In 2012 my definition of "puttin on the Black" is "to purposely use African American vernacular English to signal to others (including other Black people who may be present) that you are Black, and/or to show off your Blackness". The correct use of Black vernacular is one way online that people can indicate that they are Black without directly identifying themselves by the use of racial terms.
"Puttin on the Black" is the conscious, often prideful, and usually fun use of African American Vernacular English. Among African Americans, "Puttin on the Black" means to code switch from either Standard American English or a milder form of conversational African American English to a more pronounced form of African American vernacular English. To do so is in stark contrast to purposely hiding one's identification as an African American culture by consciously refraining from using any Black slang, or Black sayings, or Black grammatical constructs, unless that African American originated vernacular has been widely accepted by the mainstream American culture.When I coined that phrase I was referring to commenters who were actually Black. However, in the 2020s, that phrase may (also) mean something different, since it appears that a number of people online who aren't African American and are actually non-Black use African American Vernacular English for one reason or another.]
DEFINITION OF SIDE-EYESide eye
"A facial expression expressing one's criticism, disapproval, animosity, or scorn of varying levels of intensity towards another person. Defined by one person looking at the other out of the corner of their eye(s) with a scowl, as their head is turned in a different direction. Often an invitation for a fight or confrontation of some sort. Synonymous expression: "cuttin' your eyes" (at someone). Popular expression (and common occurrence) among urban American populations.
"Girl, you see that heffa over there givin' me the side eye? She MUST be tryin' to start somethin'."
by B.T. Dec 6, 2007 http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term%3DSide+Eye
Warning: Some comments on that website contain profanity and/or sexually explicit references and therefore may be inappropriate for children.
EYE ROLL
Growing up in New Jersey in the 1950s and having lived in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania since 1969, I'm much more familiar with the term "rolling your eyes" at someone than either "side eye" or "cut eye". Actually, I had to look up the meanings of both those two terms in order to be sure that I understood what they meant.
"Rolling your eyes at someone" isn't the same as giving someone a "side eye" or a "cut eye", but it's very similar. Here's the definition of "eye rolling" from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_gestures :
"Eye-rolling, performed by rotating the eyes upward and back down, can indicate incredulity, contempt, boredom, frustration, or exasperation. The gesture can be unconscious or can be performed consciously. The gesture occurs in many countries of the world, and is especially common among adolescents".
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Notice that this definition doesn't specifically refer to Black females, although that gesture appears to be mostly associated with that population.
In African American culture the concept of "eye rolling" may carry negative connotations because of the minstrel, vaudeville, and later caricatures of Black people as "coons". That's particularly the case when eye rolling is combined with the wide eyed (bug eyed) look. Examples of that side eye/bug eye look can be found in the African Americans dancing in a scene from the 1937 American movie Day At The Races http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2f9dFrvBr4 (at 5:11 and 5:35). However, that type of "eye rolling" is different from the previously discussed gesture that is usually associated was Black females.
Here's an example from a political blog where the meaning of "eye roll" is something like "Sure. Right." (said in sarcasm):
"Sorry guys, its a done deal- Romney picked up 9 convention delegates from Guam...its a shoo in from here on out (holy eye roll)"
-blueblooded; March 11, 2012 http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/03/10/wyoming-caucus-results-2012_n_1336804.html
The acronym "SMH" (shaking my head" or "shake my head") is often used with "side eye" (or "cut eye"). SMH means that the person doesn't believe that something so stupid was said or done.
VIDEOS & VIEWER COMMENTS
Video #1: 56-whoissugar's side-eye Saturday Volume 2...3 days early
Uploaded by whoissugar on Mar 8, 2011
[Editor: This video is one of several "Side Eye Saturday" videos that whoissugar uploaded on YouTube.]
-snip-
Selected comments from http://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=AWBHXrtInsI:
2011
"SIDE EYE EVENTS...
A male co worker called me "afrocentric," "neo soul," and "black panther" all BECAUSE I AM NATURAL!! SMH He gets the side eye every time I see him.
Target was sold out of Kinky Curly Curling Custard or at least that's what the sales worker told me. I believe they had some stocked in the back and he didn't feel like looking... *side eye*
Gas is entirely too high!! *side eye*
The weekend went by super fast... It's Sunday already? Dang!
-doogienahnah
****
Sug! I don't recall u mentioning u had a new job - but congrats on that! Let's see...side eye...side eye - oh - I got one! How bout my 12 year old son spends all his time either with his dad, his friends, on the computer, etc. He finally has a free minute that he decides to spend with me, but he can't cause I'm headed off to the gym for my daily hour. And what does my son have the nerve to say! "Mama! U spend more time at the gym than u do with your family. I want u to stop going!" Side eye!!!
-maximuslyricus
Editor: "Sug" is an abbreviation for the nickname "Sugar".
****
You act like me huney child lol gurl u r to funny sweets
-TheDawnmirage
****
@TheDawnmirage Lawd chile, I'm not alone in my craziness?
-whoissugar
****
Sugar, YOU get the side-eye for letting your youngest son iron your clothes! Kids + iron=disaster everytime! LOLOL
-dtp8806
****
Video #2: 28-whoissugar's side-eye saturday's! Volume 1
whoissugar, Uploaded on Jan 14, 2011 [Click to watch this video on YouTube.]
But, I thought you was a hair channel...
headwrap how to: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KY9e1L...
chile, where you get them earrings?: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kVg435...
-snip-
I love whoissugar's videos, including her side eye video, because of her personality, her presentation, and also because of the African American cultural information that are covered in her videos. Click http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lA0rxa7V3Zs for this video's YouTube viewers comment thread.
Another video entitled "You gets the SIDE EYE!" video which was uploaded by NgoziLady on Aug 5, 2011 was previously featured as this post's Video #2. Unfortunately, that video is no longer available.
I've decided to keep my comments and the selected comments from its also deleted YouTube viewer comment thread for the folkloric record of its use of African American Vernacular English.
"...This video is a response to 56-whoissugar's side-eye Saturday Volume 2...3 days early
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Note: The title of this video is an example of African American English. The grammatical incorrect word (according to Standard American English) "gets" in that title may have been used on purpose.
Selected comments from the YouTube viewer comment thread of that video which has since been deleted:
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"GUUUURRRRLLLL!!!!U had me WEAK!!!! U don't need a perm but he DO need to learn to speak CORRECT ENGLISH!!!Ooops I meant to say it!Next time tell 'em u r pregnant and when they ask when u due tell them when u decide to get pregnant or workout SMH!!!Some people have to many opinons"
-wladytray
****
"to you and yo mamma" "i guess i was caught off guard" bwahaha!
-glamazini
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I love this sis!!!:-) The man said, you need a perm? He just dont know! if the side eye could kill! Honey! Love it sis...ur so sweet n funny! Thanxfor sharing!
-BeauGorgeousNatural
****
Life! You gave me instant life with this video. Mmm hmm. Let us not talk about neighbours. Smh. They are gone now (they were put out because of taxes) and city had to board up their house. A mess.
-whoissugar
****
"I am lovin this video! Thank you!"
-dtowndeidre
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My thanks to the video uploader whoissugar, and thanks also to the bloggers whose comments are featured in this post.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Viewer comments are welcome.
Another video entitled "You gets the SIDE EYE!" video which was uploaded by NgoziLady on Aug 5, 2011 was previously featured as this post's Video #2. Unfortunately, that video is no longer available.
I've decided to keep my comments and the selected comments from its also deleted YouTube viewer comment thread for the folkloric record of its use of African American Vernacular English.
"...This video is a response to 56-whoissugar's side-eye Saturday Volume 2...3 days early
-snip-
Note: The title of this video is an example of African American English. The grammatical incorrect word (according to Standard American English) "gets" in that title may have been used on purpose.
Selected comments from the YouTube viewer comment thread of that video which has since been deleted:
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"GUUUURRRRLLLL!!!!U had me WEAK!!!! U don't need a perm but he DO need to learn to speak CORRECT ENGLISH!!!Ooops I meant to say it!Next time tell 'em u r pregnant and when they ask when u due tell them when u decide to get pregnant or workout SMH!!!Some people have to many opinons"
-wladytray
****
"to you and yo mamma" "i guess i was caught off guard" bwahaha!
-glamazini
****
I love this sis!!!:-) The man said, you need a perm? He just dont know! if the side eye could kill! Honey! Love it sis...ur so sweet n funny! Thanxfor sharing!
-BeauGorgeousNatural
****
Life! You gave me instant life with this video. Mmm hmm. Let us not talk about neighbours. Smh. They are gone now (they were put out because of taxes) and city had to board up their house. A mess.
-whoissugar
****
"I am lovin this video! Thank you!"
-dtowndeidre
****
My thanks to the video uploader whoissugar, and thanks also to the bloggers whose comments are featured in this post.
Thank you for visiting pancocojams.
Viewer comments are welcome.
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