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Saturday, February 8, 2025

Two Article Excerpts About Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" Winning Grammy's Album Of The Year 2024

Edited by Azizi Powell

This pancocojams post presents two article excerpts about Beyonce's "Cowboy Carter" Winning Grammy's Album Of The Year 2024.

The content of this post is presented for historical and socio-cultural purposes.

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Beyonce for her cultural legacy. Thanks to all those who are quoted in this post.

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ARTICLE EXCERPTS

These excerpts are presented in chronological order and are numbered for referencing purposes only.

ARTICLE EXCERPT #1
From https://variety.com/2025/music/news/beyonce-grammy-album-of-the-year-win-cowboy-carter-1236294687/ "Beyoncé Finally Wins Album of the Year, as ‘Cowboy Carter’ Takes Grammys’ Top Prize" By Chris Willman, Feb 2, 2025
…"Although it was ultimately a multi-genre album, “Cowboy Carter” was a concept album in representing Beyoncé’s take on how country music has much of its roots in Black music, and how Black performers continue to make their way in that genre, including guest stars on the album ranging from newcomer Shaboozey to Black country pioneer Linda Martell.

Beyoncé became the first Black woman to win album of the year since Lauryn Hill did it with “The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill” in 1999.

“Cowboy Carter” had been widely predicted as a winner for album of the year by a majority of prognosticators — but nervously, given what a sure thing major albums of hers like “Lemonade” had been in the past. The win had been forecast all the way back when the album came out last March, with Variety asking in a headline days after its release: “Is Beyoncé’s ‘Cowboy Carter’ an Unstoppable Frontrunner for the Album of the Year Grammy?”

The cultural import of the album proved indomitable — along with the factor of people just liking it — even against a lineup of one of the strongest fields in the category in years.

[…]

It was Beyoncé’s second turn at the podium Sunday night. Earlier in the prime-time telecast, she had been handed the country album of the year trophy by presenter Taylor Swift. In the pre-telecast premiere ceremony, she also won a third award, for best country duo/group performance, honoring her duet with Miley Cyrus, “II Most Wanted.”

Beyoncé came into the ceremony as both the most nominated artist of all time and the most awarded artist in Grammy history, yet fans lamented that she had a history of not coming through in the top three all-genre categories. Although she won song of the year in the past, she had never won album of the year or record of the year before Sunday night.

It was her being denied album of the year in the past that especially stuck in fans’ craw — and, vocally, her husband Jay-Z’s. When “Lemonade” lost out to what was considered a lesser Adele album, that singer apologized to Beyoncé that night for beating her, saying it was Bey who really deserved the award.”

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ARTICLE EXCERPT #2
From https://www.billboard.com/music/awards/beyonce-cowboy-carter-deserved-aoty-grammy-win-lifetime-achievement-award-dont-dismiss-1235891405/  "Beyoncé’s ‘Cowboy Carter’ AOTY Grammy Victory Feels Like a Lifetime Achievement Award – But Don’t Just Dismiss It as One"

First and foremost, this is a win for Cowboy Carter, not just vindication for Queen Bey's past losses.

By Kyle Denis, 02/3/2025

…"At long last, the First Lady of Music – as dubbed by one Clive Davis – had finally won the industry’s most coveted prize.

With her victory, Beyoncé not only extended her lead as the most-awarded artist in Grammy history (35 wins), but she also joined Natalie Cole (Unforgettable With Love, 1992), Whitney Houston (The Bodyguard, 1994) and Lauryn Hill (The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill, 1999) as just the fourth Black woman to ever win album of the year as a lead artist. It’s that nugget of history, coupled with her litany of egregious General Field snubs that made this moment such a sweet one to witness.

But let’s be careful not to let “overdue” narratives completely obfuscate the artistic merit of Cowboy Carter…As far as many are concerned, Cowboy Carter’s win is equivalent to a lifetime achievement award; a mea culpa of sorts for snubs of years past.

There’s nothing inherently wrong with that framing, but it does belie the fact that Cowboy Carter would have deserved to win whether it was Bey’s first album of the year nod or her tenth. Less than two years after flipping the dance-pop world on its head with Renaissance, a record that illuminated the Black queer roots of dance music and culture, Beyoncé strutted into yet another new genre and made it completely her own, while venerating some of its most respected (and overlooked) pioneers.

She opened the album with “Ameriican Requiem,” a Buffalo Springfield-nodding tour de force that served as a musical funeral for not just the most limiting visions of America, but also the overwhelmingly white country music establishment that unfairly made themselves the gatekeepers of who can lay claim to country music, aesthetics and identity. Over the 26 subsequent tracks, she assumed and illustrated different Western motifs and characters (the sheriff, the damsel in distress, the outlaw, etc.), ending with “Amen,” an anthem of hope for a new, limitless vision of America that interpolates the album opener.

[…]

We don’t even have to get into the historic chart achievements of the era or the cultural impact it had across fashion and business – Cowboy Carter is worthy enough based solely on its 27 gorgeous songs.

Not a single one of the other nominees for album of the year boasts the archival ambition, depth of research, courage, experimentation, soul and sheer scope of Cowboy Carter. The album is closer to a master’s thesis than a standard pop album, but it’s also relentlessly fun.

[…]

Yes, this win is a vindication of her past losses, a tribute to her towering career, and a nod to the Black women before her who were denied time and time again, but above all, it’s a win for Cowboy Carter specifically – and that’s the most important takeaway from last night. 

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Tuesday, June 20, 2023

Comments From Africans About The Grammy Awards Being Considered The Highest Honor For African Music Recording Artists, Part II: Ayra Starr - "Sability"





Ayra Starr, Feb. 18, 2023
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Statistics for this official YouTube video as of June 20, 2023 as of 1:15 PM EDT

total # of views - 26,396,062
total # of comments - 7,437

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This is Part II of a two part pancocojams series about Africans and the United States' Grammy award. 

This post features comments from the discussion thread for Nigerian Afrobeats singer Ayra Starr's Feb. 2023 official YouTube video "Stability". Those comments are similar to those that are showcased in Part I of this pancocojams series, except that there is only one comment about the Nigerian award called "Headies" and no other comments about other music awards besides the Grammys. Also, more comments the discussion in Ayra's "Sability" video include reasons why the commenters are critical of the Grammys. At least two commenters in that discussion example described that the Grammys are "a white man's award".  

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/06/comments-from-africans-about-grammy.html for Part I of this pancocojams series. 
The comments in that pancocojams post are from the discussion thread for Nigerian performing artists Asake's and Olamide's official May 2023 YouTube video entitled "Amapiano". That song is a fusion of Nigerian Afrobeats, South African Amapiano, African American Rap, and Nigerian Fuji by those two Nigerian recording artists. However, all of the comments about the Grammys in that particular YouTube discussion thread focus on Asake Many of those commenters predict that Asake will win a Grammy for that song. Some other commenters reject and/or ridicule that possibility for that particular song. 

Some other commenters in that discussion thread share their opinion about the kinds of music that the Grammys honor and write that Asake music doesn't fit that criteria. Other commenters question or criticize Africans who believe that winning a Grammys is the highest honor for any African recording artist. 

Several other commenters wrote that winning the Grammys is mentioned in (YouTube) discussion threads for other trending African contemporary recording artists. 

In addition, several comments in this compilation refer to the Headies, a Nigerian music award or the BET awards, an African American award that includes music categories,or the People's Choice award, another United States award recognizing people in entertainment. 

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The content of this pancocojams post is presented for socio-cultural purposes, including Nigerian and other African cultures, examples of Nigerian Pidgin English, Nigerians and other Africans' opinions about those recording artists, as well as opinions and attitudes about the Grammys and about other music awards. 

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Ayra Starr and all those who are associated with that song and that video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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An online list of Africans who have won Grammys (as of 2023) is included in the comment section for Part I of this pancocojams series.

How some Africans feel about the Grammys is particularly interesting in light of the decision by the Grammys to add a category for African music starting in 2024 instead of having that music compete in the "world music" category.
  
Click 
https://www.africanews.com/2023/06/14/grammy-awards-africa-finally-gets-its-own-category/#:~:text=USA,a%20consecration%20for%20the%20genre for the June 2023 article entitled "Grammy Awards: Africa finally gets its own category" by  Rédaction Africanews with AFP.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS YOUTUBE DISCUSSION THREAD

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KYn3k8dpRJI

These comments are only a sample of the comments on this subject in that discussion thread.  All of these comments are from 2023. These comments are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.

Numbers are given for referencing purposes only. Brief explanations about some of the terms that are found in these comments are given below a few of these comments.

1.Kingholyan Miraculous
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Ayra star will win a Grammy one day who else think so to ?"

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2. trizah🤍
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I know right! grammys should do their thingg 😕😌🥲🫶🏼"

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3. 
OfficialN69
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That's a fact."

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4. 
Toma whyte
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More than that a world music awards"

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5. 
Stan Pm
"
Soon"

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6. M
ariam Yussuf
"Def
initely by God's grace"

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7. 
Miracle Owen
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She doesnt need one. Shes still a great singer, eitherway"

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8. 
Sandy Mwas
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of course she has to she is really an icon❤️"

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9. 
BLACK BOY 🥺💙
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Still coming in her way Just Chill 💯💯💯💯"

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10. 
R6mobile America
"
Grammy is not an achievement there great musicians who never won Grammy"

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11. 
Kennytwrld
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@R6mobile America  abeg no take dis tin fr public say grammy no be achievement lol ur not serious she will win one day tho"

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12. alvin saf
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It's never served on a silver plate music ain't the only thing needed for a grammy"

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13. 
nigerccie1
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Don’t be a slave to Grammys. Don’t let Grammys validate your work. You are bigger than Grammys"

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14. 
Daniella
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Amen oh ,we will all rejoice and be proud"

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15. 
Tehillah Okhawere
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I pray she wins a Grammy too❤️❤️"

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16. 
Ayanda Wesley
"
Tssuiiip you no even call rema you call this pikin"
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Rema is another popular Nigerian Afrobeats recording artist.

"Pikin" is a Nigerian Pidgin English word meaning "child". Ayra is called a "pikin" because she is very young.

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17. 
certifiedtoxicblink
"the
 grammys are PROBLEMATIC"

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18. 
Kelvinblog Tv
"
Yeah one day she will be famous world wide like tems 🏻"

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19. 
maxim success
"
Na today something 🤣🤣🤣

She better start singing Grammy worthy kind of Music, and get a good songwriter, or improve her Pen Skills, I'm only Spilling Facts

Look at TEMs"

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20. Junior Pj maxlamboy
"Nope"

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21. African Star
"She is an amazing African artist and doesn't need the white mans award to confirm that. Let us as Africans appreciate ourselves and don't look to the white man to approve us. 1.4billion of us are more than enough."

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22. Obot Desmond
"Dey play! So you think stability is a good song to win Grammy? For last last everybody thought e go collect Grammy but didn't 😅"
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"Dey play" is a Nigerian Pidgin English saying that means something like "You're playing around [talking nonsense] when you say that." 

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23. 
shantel testimony
"I believe and it’s will happen soon by God’s grace"

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24. Ability white
"She deserves it ❤️"

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25. 
Ehiaga Victor
"Dey play"

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26. alvin saf
"It's never served on a silver plate music ain't the only thing needed for a grammy"

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27. geniekid7
"Prolly next year"

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28. Obinna Yatek
"She no fit"

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29. Austin Kpakol
"I don't think so"

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30. Emmerson Adi
"Why all these craze about Grammy? Slave mentality. Mtcheww"

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31. Abigael Jalali
"she will win multiple !!!"

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32. Hafiz Allotey
"We don't think it will happen"

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33. Rhapor Rum Punch
"@Kennytwrld  Why are you guys want Americans to give you an award?"

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34. Fille du Soleil
"Enough with thisgrammi thing  .... Ayraa they sing for America recognition?? Make she move to usa ......stop this mentality of Africa bowing to USA"

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35. RICH Dude
"For where!? This is not international music it’s only naija gbedu no be emotional"
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Here's the meaning of gbedu from https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Gbedu
"A Nigerian term, Gbedu means “big drum” . But in the Nigerian urban slang terms, it means to “groove” or grooving, vibes etc; Fun, rhythm etc

The food was amazing tonight, and now the music is on point. This gbedu is no joke. It’s lit tonight."
by OrangeCountyFTW July 15, 2022

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36. 
chidera ife
"I really need her ti win a grammy"

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37. Hawkins
"But she'll get after Rema gets one..... That's a fact"

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38. Amaris Mbam
"@iUPLOAD  dont u think she can win s grammy"

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39. 
RICK ZED
"Dey play 😂"

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40. 
Collin_Ton
"Misson impossible😂🤣"

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41. 
The Top 10 Show
"Depends which contract she signs 👀"

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42. Philemon Onyango
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Not before remma haha"

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43. Okwueze Venitius
"Grammy useless"

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44. crystal
"We hope so the Grammy's don't really tbh"

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45. Basil Henry-eyo
"@crystal  why?"

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46. THE YOUNG HANDSOME GENIUS
"She will u wait, and when it happens, l will make sure l am there"

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47. Jacob Samuel
"I don't think so"

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48. Obi Success
"Dey play"

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49. allfires🔥
"2
 Grammy's"

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50. 
Emmana Immortal
"Not with this pattern of hers"

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51. ybn bestie
"With copy copy songs?"

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52. Zvikomborero Chiriro
"Why not just why not"

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53. Emmana Immortal
"@Zvikomborero Chiriro  Mek she calm down do cool music not noise, then she fit win. Body too dey shark her. She's good But let her settle her head down."

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54. Anything Sport
"Wetin you smoke?"

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55. RAVER
"Not a hater... But she won't win any Grammy for her solo work except from a big international artiste."

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56. Handwallah Hudheifa
"Yes one day 🎉🎉"

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57. 
Young Qee
"I don’t think so, I know so 💯💪"

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58. 
Adesina Mujidat
"I think so too🥰🥰"

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59. 
fudge...
"When I heard the awilo Longomba voice I was so happy cos Congo is being represented. I love ayra Starr I'm hoping she gets nominated for a Grammy because she has been coming out with bangers recently. 🇨🇩🇨🇩"
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Awilo Longomaba is a very popular Congolese S
oukous musician,singer, and composer. Ayra Starr sampled Awilo Longomaba's 1998 hit song "Coupe Bibamba" in Ayra's 2022 record "Sability".

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60. 
uche Anadi
"This what came to my mind when I saw this video"

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61. Truedis Media
"I don't think Arya starr even dey reason Grammy. The girl na Vibez. But bro do you know what it takes to win a Grammy"

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62. Arsene Mugabe
"Never"

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63. Olusegun Salami
"Not me tho,,, no hate"

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64. Dave Ross
"Grammy is not that easy"

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65. Charlotte Mba
"She don win already, a Cameroonian fan"

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66. Okeniyi Ayomide
"How??? 🌝"

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67. 
Jesh lyrics
"Is this the sing you are basing on to say that she will win a Grammy. Please get serious"

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68. 
Dunqan o Khalobwa
"Unless she joins illuminati like term's"

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69. Peaceful Flourish
"@Dunqan o Khalobwa  I know right, I just know tems is initiated because I don't understand, wtf is she singing that will award her a Grammy 💁🏽‍♀️"

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70. 
SHAINE NWANGWU
"Well she won’t bcos grammy criterion is make rubbish songs then you stand a chance"

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71. EriZone
"To be honest African musicians should just do their thing and not strive to be or give crap about Grammies. They got this high on their own and I am sure the organic growth has already shown that people appreciate the quality of music coming out regardless of Grammies."

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72. Nelly Legacy
"Grammy is not a big deal anyone can win it it's doesn't she's isn't the best because of that"

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73. Rebbywealth
"Most Nigerian artists give us good music..... Grammy or not you guys

are the best"

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74. Edna
"She gotta cause she's great"

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75. BEAU
"I hope so 😫"

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76. 
Camilleri
"She doesn't need Grammy awards.. because she is better than Grammy award winner 😂😂"

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77. 
Kevin Dan
"She has the potential to win Grammies but cannot. until she does more international collabs that tops chart. But if she's playing it well by climbing the ladder from B-list with that goal in mind then yes she can but again she needs more international collabs with fellow dope artist in her league and out perform them. She's a Celestial Being no Joke !!!..let her move through these stage and phase of success she's worth and deserving of More...she needs fellow Celestial producers that can produce sounds from the ether realms out of our earthly aeon!!!.."

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78. crystal
"@Basil Henry-eyo  all huge artist don't really get the grammies, so people actually think they just waste their time on the grammies. She is better than them anyways and there are other awards bigger that grammies"

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79. Basil Henry-eyo
"@Bhard Barbie  to you maybe but to them it means a whole lot"

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80. Victor Imade
"With this kind lyrics?? Dey play 😂"

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81. 
Brooke Hiververse
"They can keep that satanic rituals to them selfs! She’s in her own lain !! She good with out it"

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82. Dr Anggelos
"In what category?"

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83. lambo T
"Highly unlikely lol.......Entries are submitted by record companies as well as members of the academy and are reviewed to determine eligibility and category placement. The voting members of NARAS, through a series of ballots, select five nominees for each award and ultimately the winner; the voters cast ballots only in their areas of expertise.Feb 7, 2023"

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84. Franck Yound
"Winning Grammys or not  doesn’t make you less of an artist. Know that"

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85. Confidence
"Watch me win grammy b4 her"

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86. 
Freedom Accelerator: Manifest Your Dreams By FES
"@BLACK BOY 🥺💙  Really? You don’t think she’s good enough woooow. U must have done much more than her in your life. More power to you to think the Star ain’t star enough for a Grammy hmmm"

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87. JOSPHAT THUO
"Grammies are bought"

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88. Jessica Baks
"She deserves it😍😍"

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89. 
Zanzibar
"She's worth more than Grammy"

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90. Benson B
"I'd much rather she perform on a world stage than win a Grammy"

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91. Augustine zubby
"She can but not with her music type unless she collabo with a foreign artist that does an acceptable music for Grammy, but no doubt she’s the best female artist in naija now, Tems just has grace"

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92. nvm nvm
"Nope she has to step it up big time or be featured. Aunty need to still pick a clear direction that can be taken seriously"

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93. The Nnungi Tv
"But what's so big about the Grammys?!"

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94. 
Desi Ree
"Y’all care too much about the Grammys."

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95. Rafaela
"She don't need thier Grammy she is much more."

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96. Chukwuebuka Augustine Ude
"I don't know what you people see in Grammy award, she don't need it"

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97. haerins_meow
"She doesn't need a Grammy, Grammy needs her"

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98. Glam You Girl
"Why do you guys want Africans artist to win American awards ? Are their Nigerian award shows equal to American Grammys??"

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99. Glam You Girl
"@Miracle Owen  yes it’s nice to have but Grammy is not the ultimate measure of success."

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100. 
TNaijaBoxing
"We don't care about Grammy. The more you care the money power they have over our music"

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101. 
Gwalah Early and family
"She’s beyond grammy"

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102. Ayod Mary
"abeg rest"

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103. alexivomwalukisa
"Do you think is that easy"

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104.  Linn Law11
"Not with this kind of song.she will win but not this song"

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105. Daniel Otieno
"Why Grammy? To get white man's approval? Ayra has won our hearts and that's enough. With or without a Grammy she is already Ayra STAR! You can't take that away!"

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106. 
David Lawson
"Make una forget Grammy na politics dem dey play now"

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107. 
ABDUL HAQEEM ADEGOKE
"Last last na headlies she go win"
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"Headies" is the name of Nigeria's music awards.

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108. 
A_f123ro
"She doesn’t need Grammy

Grammy needs her ❤"

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109. 
Jimin's flower
"Grammys are unfair tho"

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110. MichaelVasco Iregbu (Mr. Numbers)
"Yes Oh .. She sure will win a Grammy soon and even more awards"

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111. 
eddy
"She already won our heart"

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112. okuomose okuns
"Naija Awards"

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113. Oyade A
"Who told you she is looking for Grammy"

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114. Vim 23
"@Oyade A  every artist"

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115. Vim 23
"Yess a Grammy"

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116. Tim Mouers
"Go get your Grammy Ayra Starr, go get em shawty"

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117. 
z
"You guys need to forget that sick institution"

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118. Mercy
"People keep talking about winning a Grammy etc.  That's a nice recognition but doesn't give any money.  It is a music award. But there are many other music awards that are highly significant as well. She is already made with the audience, promotion, record label and doing what she loves.  Winning a Grammy or not doesn't really do much else., but it is nice to do that too."

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119.  Shamar Hubbard
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I think African music should have their own awards the music is going up and we need something to represent it"

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120. Garçon bio👌🏾
"Exactly"

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Monday, June 19, 2023

Comments From Africans About The Grammy Awards Being Considered The Highest Honor For African Music Recording Artists, Part I: Asake - "Amapiano"

ASAKE, May 23, 2023
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Statistics for this official YouTube video as of June 19, 2023 as of 5:19 PM EDT
total # of views - 8,021,809
total # of comments - 4,861

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Edited by Azizi Powell

Latest revision - June 19, 2023 4:56 PM EDT 

This is Part I of a two part pancocojams series about Africans and the United States' Grammy award. 

The comments in this pancocojams post are from the discussion thread for Nigerian performing artists Asake's and Olamide's official May 2023 YouTube video entitled "Amapiano". That song is a fusion of Nigerian Afrobeats, South African Amapiano, African American Rap, and Nigerian Fuji by those two Nigerian recording artists. However, all of the comments about the Grammys in that particular YouTube discussion thread focus on Asake Many of those commenters predict that Asake will win a Grammy for that song. Some other commenters reject and/or ridicule that possibility for that particular song. 

Some other commenters in that discussion thread share their opinion about the kinds of music that the Grammys honor and write that Asake music doesn't fit that criteria. Other commenters question or criticize Africans who believe that winning a Grammys is the highest honor for any African recording artist. 

Several other commenters wrote that winning the Grammys is mentioned in (YouTube) discussion threads for other trending African contemporary recording artists. 

In addition, several comments in this compilation refer to the Headies, a Nigerian music award or the BET awards, an African American award that includes music categories,or the People's Choice award, another United States award recognizing people in entertainment. 

Click https://pancocojams.blogspot.com/2023/06/comments-from-africans-about-grammy_20.html for Part II of this series. That post features comments from the discussion thread for Nigerian Afrobeats singer Ayra Starr's Feb. 2023 official YouTube video "Stability". 
Those comments are similar to those that are showcased in Part I of this pancocojams series.Some commenters write that they are certain that Ayra Starr will win a Grammy while others reject or ridicule that possibility. In addition, (as is the case in the discussion thread that is sampled in Part I of this pancocojams series), some commenters criticize the idea that Africans should want African singers/musicians to win Grammys. At least two commenters in that discussion example described that the Grammys are "a white man's award".  

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The content of this pancocojams post is presented for socio-cultural purposes, including Nigerian and other African cultures, examples of Nigerian Pidgin English, Nigerians and other Africans' opinions about those recording artists, as well as opinions and attitudes about the Grammys and about other music awards. 

All copyrights remain with their owners.

Thanks to Asake and Olamide and all those who are associated with that song and that video. Thanks also to all those who are quoted in this post.
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An online list of Africans who have won Grammys (as of 2023) is included in the comment section for this pancocojams post.

How some Africans feel about the Grammys is particularly interesting in light of the decision by the Grammys to add a category for African music starting in 2024 instead of having that music compete in the "world music" category.
  
Click https://www.africanews.com/2023/06/14/grammy-awards-africa-finally-gets-its-own-category/#:~:text=USA,a%20consecration%20for%20the%20genre.
for the June 2023 article entitled "Grammy Awards: Africa finally gets its own category" by Rédaction Africanews with AFP.

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SELECTED COMMENTS FROM THIS YOUTUBE DISCUSSION THREAD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l_-v1fNdSHs

These comments are only a sample of the comments on this subject in that discussion thread. All of these comments are from 2023. These comments are presented in relative chronological order with the oldest comments given first except for replies.

Numbers are given for referencing purposes only. Brief  explanations about some of the terms that are found in these comments are given below a few of these comments.

1. Scenas_ Blog
"Asake will win Grammy awards one day if you believe gather here to appreciate his Talent ❤"

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2. MakeOutHill
"Dey play"
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The Nigerian slang saying "Dey Play" means something like "You got to be joking" ("You're playing about what you said"; You can't  be serious". A number of commenters wrote that saying in this sub-thread. Click https://www.bbc.com/pidgin/articles/cxwk8ldp7mno Popular slangs wey trend for 2022 "For 2022, na music and internet viral videos influence wetin Nigerians bin dey tok pass", 26 December 2022 for a Nigerian Pidgin English definition for "Dey Play". 

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3. Sheyi Bryta
"Lol. Grammy is overrated"

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4. Golden Coast
"Grammy is the new gold."

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5. Esther Vanda
"No be with this kind music lol"

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6. dauda femi daniel
"@Sheyi Bryta  💯 and very bias"

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7. John Tracht
"Him boss self never been nominated no be this Typ dem dey find for Grammy"
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This comment refers to Olamide who discovered Asake and signed him to his record label. 

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8. Arata Ayumu
"@MakeOutHill  😂, he’s good but he doesn’t sing Grammy songs , If you are talking about grammy, then talk about Rema, bnxn, blaqbonez, fireboy"

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9. Iam Sacrozant
"Lol davido we first win the Grammy award before asake David adeleke to the world 001"

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10. John Tracht
"@Iam Sacrozant  I dey tell you I be 30bg normal but Grammy still never sure for him talkless of Asake"

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11. Sugar Boy
"Him will win Yoruba Grammy awards. Bcuz is only Yoruba dat understand his music 🎵"

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12. vovi agnes
"Not one day next year ishala"

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13. 
Deepcy
"You’re mad"

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14. Sutaye E.j
"@Sugar Boy  🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I swear down"

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15. Urom Victor
"We dont need grammy.

 

We are bigger than that."

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16. flowkidd
"Everything is not Abt Grammy it's an ordinary award"

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17. Hijackstudios
"@MakeOutHill  he will and you will cry."

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18. MakeOutHill
"@Hijackstudios  lmao let’s be blunt here. What category do you think he’ll get nominated in? Hell no bro there’s no way . He could get recognized internationally but he winning a Grammy? Lmao y’all should wake up na"

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19. Hijackstudios
"@MakeOutHill  the same way you didn't believe in yourself, that left you stranded now, now putting the same negative energy on others. Continue. Hope you have data, he will win grammy one day and you will watch it with heart break."

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20.  MakeOutHill
"@Hijackstudios  😂😂😂dude"

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21. Uyi Aisosa
"@MakeOutHill  werey 😅😅😅"
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Here's a definition for the word "werey" from https://www.premiumtimesng.com/entertainment/naija-fashion/500516-werey-dey-disguise-cut-soap-for-me-other-nigerian-pop-culture-slang-that-trended-in-2021.html?tztc=1
" ’Werey dey disguise’, ‘Cut Soap For Me’, other Nigerian Pop Culture slang that trended in 2021 by ByOnu Stephen  December 12, 2021
…. “Werey Dey Disguise 

This is another Yoruba pidgin street slang, ‘Werey’ in Yoruba means acting irrationally or crazy. In totality “werey dey disguise” means, the act of camouflaging or appearing or speaking out in contrast to what you really mean people can see right through their being fake.

“Werey dey disguise” is usually accompanied by several mimes, it is used when someone is acting up but you see through them.”…

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22. 
Tilly
"You people are still on about this Grammy thing? Seeking validation from the western world 🙄"

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23. Hundredz Investment Limited
"U think say na one one word lyrics them Dey take win Grammy?? With this one pattern 😂😂"
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I believe the standard American English transcription of that Nigerian Pidgin sentence is "You think that he'll win the Grammy with his one word lyrics?

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24. NARCO 1804
"He don’t need that sh-t!* That for them folks. He will be a winner as long we support him❤"
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*This word is fully spelled out in this comment.

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25. 
Adetipe Abiodun
"@MakeOutHill  you will hear ad see it don't worry he will win one day"

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24. MakeOutHill
"@Adetipe Abiodun  just Dey play"

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25. Faidat
"We don't care. He has already made history!!!🎉🎉 Grammy is overrated"

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26. 
Mr Priceless
"Real talk"

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27. Linda Waters
"I believe too"

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28. Sammy Hero
"How come I don’t believe"

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29. Rhod
"With which song exactly??"

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30. danie 
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"Are you the one who said this on Rema too? cause y'all have the same pfp and errthing

😂"

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31.  David O. Daukoru
"Your head empty"

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32. 
Abdulwasiu Toyin
"How he wan win it person wey dey sing traditional song"

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33. Joseph Philemon
"Him go win Grammy for sure him video them bad"

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34. 
McValiant23
"Àṣàkẹ́ occupies, satisfies and caters for a niche genre of Afrobeats, not necessarily Grammy-level...but who cares!? We still love his vibes, Grammy or not! ❤🤗👌"

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35. 
EnRobotics
"How he wan take win am with this song?????!"

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36. iayyam
"Guaranteed"

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37. Fabulous Empire
"Inshallah u will on god"

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38. SAMNESS
"Dey play 😂"

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37. SAMNESS
"Na headdies be his calling"
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"Na" is a Yoruba word that means "is".

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38. 
Blackrock trading academy.
"Grammy award na luck oo"

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39. KAMWEFU
"His winning one this year"

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40. sammysamuel
"For your mind"
The standard African American way of saying this sarcastic saying is "In your mind".

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41. Kamogelo Meso
"If he keeps at the rate he is at, it's a given.

He's an amazing act, a breath of fresh air in the Afrobeats movement. ❤"

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42. Ebbah Precious
"4 sure"

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43. Dera Silver
"For your dream 😂😂😂"
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44. 
Prince Chifundire
"Nope"

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45. AIG
"Stop looking outward for validation. If he wins, good, but we don't need grammy to be our standard  please."

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46. 
unkieYard
"@MakeOutHill keep dreaming"

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47. almuktar sani
" @MakeOutHill 😂😂"

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48. 
Bryan Ag
"Lol 😂

Dreams"

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49. 
owolabi amos
"He can’t, he can win headies though"

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50.  Kehinde Akomolafe
"Dey play na bread"

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51.Abdul raheem olamide
"Depending on the foreign artist  features or was features by"

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52. TNaijaBoxing
"African artist don't need Grammys. We don't need any affirmation from America"

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53. onyejekwe oluchukwu
"He will surely win. I believe in him 😊"

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54. Muritala Abiola
"He will definitely get nominated this year if not wining sef"

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55. ephraim sakachi
"Nah bro. My gee don't need that satanic award he good 💪💪🔥"

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56. Classic Gee
"Ode .. u think  Grammy awards is fufu that any artist in Nigeria can win Abi when there's davido and WizKid and Burna boy even rema can win this Grammy awards than to talk of him 😅"
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57. 
Daniel Ubokudom
"Not with this please"

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58. Rotimi Adido
"Probably but not with this kind of music"

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59. Popcorn 🍿 comedy
"Bro you write this comment on every trending song"

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60. Kelex Official
"You just posting that everyone will win award"

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61. Victor ola
"I've seen this comment on like 2 other naija artist song"

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62. Ebinezer Sillá
"😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊"

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63. Chidi
"Seriously sha"

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64. 
Taiwo Oluwatobi
"If I have personal Grammy award I will deliberately give it to Awake has the best amapiano afrobeat worldwide number one..as for me😊"

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65. Uriel Yo
"You dey talk nonsense Sha intop amapino where rema dey Rema way go Indian tour 🤣🤣🤣🤣 go rest"

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66. Bernard Wongibe
"Understatement. Create a different award for him."

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67. Dankan Kandash
"Kkk😮😮😮"
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68. Kaycee Collins
"We neva see rema na asake 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄💀💀💀💀👎👎👎👎or ayra starr,fireboy, buju,kizz daniel ,johhhy drile mtchew e wan like 🙄😂😂😂"

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69. 
Strive For Excellence
" @Sugar Boy what kinda nonsense is this. I’m Igbo and understand his music fully lol tf"

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70. 21.1K Views  COLOZ NICK
" @Sugar Boy   am a kenyan And I love his music very much"

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71. Augustine Ikechukwu
"No be only Grammy mugu"
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Here's a definition for Nigerian slang word "mugu" from https://theculturetrip.com/africa/nigeria/articles/11-untranslatable-nigerian-slang-words-we-need-in-english/  "11 Untranslatable Nigerian Slang Words We Need in English"  by Lize Okon, 28 November 2022
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Maga/Mugu

This is a term used to describe someone regarded as a fool or someone who is very gullible or being conned. For example, ‘you be maga’ means ‘you’re a fool’. But in this context – ‘my maga promise me hundred thousand Naira’, it shows that the person who’s being referred to as the maga is being conned."

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72. Dope Kholoski
"Wtf thought he got grammyd already

Give him 2grammys 2asake❤"

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73. Ayomide Kayorde
"Indeed Asake will surely have the Grammy Award with the way is getting over is mate Artist"

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74. Femi's Creativity
"ASAKE will definitely win GRAMMY"

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75. Ibrahim Kargbo
"Asake really you deserve to Grammy ❤❤❤❤❤❤ this song"

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76. Dannie Nellie
"TBH this guy must win either a Grammy or BET"

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77. Evangelist christopher ayella
"Asake is my one and only artist in 9j, Grammy Award winner next after Danini, wait and see"

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78. DarK TaleS
"What's with Grammy thing that people keep mentioning,we are bigger than that"

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79. Marissa Hearne
"EXACTLY... Grammy is NOT the standard!"

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80. Mallor Vee
"On behalf of my Grammy winners ,is time for this master piece to take over ❤"

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81. Deborah Fadoju
"Asake will win Grammy😍🥰😍😍🥰"

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82. Brandy Crystal
"Yes he used AUTHENTIC VIEWS to get the boost initially but now he is super talented that he will win Grammy one day !!!
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This is how this comment  written in that discussion thread.

A few other commenters mentioned AUTHENTIC VIEWS. Based on those comments, my guess is that those are views are those that the record labels paid people to make. 

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83. 
ntibuteba bolly
"This's year Grammy it's yours"

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84. charles kawuma
"He keep messing around will end up with a Grammy for sure"

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85. Kayode Seyi
"Asake is really talented... 2024 Grammy awards owes you one..."

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86. Y. A.
"Another good one from Asake ..... 💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾💃🏾. This guy deserves  the people's choice award any and every time it is given ✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾✌🏾. He has no bad song or coloration. They are all 🔥🔥🔥🔥"


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87. Jakub J
"And this year's psychiatric ward Grammy goes to Asake. I miss back in the days when you got somewhat smarter out of music."

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